The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 - The Cinema Snob
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Years after reviewing the first movie, The Cinema Snob finally gets around to reviewing Tobe Hooper's 1986 dark comedy sequel, starring Dennis Hopper, Caroline Williams and Bill Moseley!
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Just a reminder the producers of this movie gave Dennis Hopper a live chainsaw to run around set with even though they knew he was doing coke and drinking at the time . the 80's were awesome.
So I was right he was on coke during this movie! Well, that year was great for him between this movie and Blue Velvet it was a great year!
The 80s was the horror decade. I hated this movie at first. But liked it more over the years.
Not to mention careless as fuck!
Dennis Hopper was Lord of the Harvest way before TCM2
Don't worry the coke canceled out the booze
It's sad Dennis Hopper didn't like this movie, it's a fantastic performance from him.
Well at least he changed his mind about this movie being the worst in his career😅but yeah I love this movie too and he was fantastic in this
All while strung out on coke. 😂He is to TCM what Betsy Palmer is to Friday The 13th. Didn't give a shit about the movie but still held nothing back in their performance.
It's also the best thing I know him from considering this, Super Mario Bros., and Hell: A Cyberpunk Thriller are the only things I've seen him in
Dennis Hopper dueling chainsaws with Leatherface... Step aside Blue Velvet!
Lord of the harvest
I'm the Lord of the Harvest!!
Apparently he said this was his worst role...
Until he did the super Mario movie
Following up one of the scariest movies of all time with a crazy ass horror comedy was a huge flex by Tobe Hooper.
Well, according to Tobe the original was a very dark comedy(which I can see) but with how it was filmed and it’s low budget it doesn’t come off that way
He actually considered the first one a comedy and got really confused when everyone was screaming in terror and passing out in the theater, so he made the second one a more obvious comedy.
Well he didn’t even wanna make the movie canon wanted it so he took the piss which is a damn shame. With all the great sets and Tom savini he could’ve made an actual timeless horror film here but instead we got this shite that’s almost as bad as next generation.
@@ajscrewuthank you! Texas chainsaw massacre 2 is a terrible film. Hooper made a huge mistake when he went the black comedy route
Bill Moseley really steals the show as Chop-Top' Sawyer. His performance switches from hilarious to genuinely terrifying in an in an instant.
Give the people what they want, NAM-LAND!
Chop Top is amazing. I'm still p!ssed that his spin off movie wasn't finished
DOG WILL HUNT!
“Don’t forget, this chrome dome bankrolled this business, no lucky gook with a machete, no fancy rolling grill-a-go-go, aint no fool, kiss it”. -chop-top
"Just like death eatin' a cracker.."
The Snob is Family!....
Okay, hear me out here:
"Beyond the Valley of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" is the *raddest fucking thing* I've ever heard of. Holy shit! Can you imagine?!
Someone needs to get started on writing that film.
If it had someone resembling Z-Man from Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, that would've been the greatest '80s slasher film ever
Make if a video game! Where you overtime turn into a badass that has to take on the grown and save innocent lives.
Dennis Hopper as Lefty is so enjoyable to watch. knowing he's on cocaine and drink just makes some scenes even better like when he's shouting ' bring it all down' it's like he's trying to escape the movie and the lord of the harvest looked like he really lost it.
could be wrong but i think hopper got clean for good in 1983.
@@grahamgreene779 I Heard the opposite that he was so high he didn't remember making it.
Yeah he was sober for a bit at the time of filming this.
@@fiveways Ah well to be fair you can see why i would have thought that. that energy comes from something besides talent.
@@scottbuckley823 Robin Williams kept his coke energy style in his standup after he got clean following John Belushi's death.
I love how Leatherface looks at the woman like "Sorry for my family. We aren't usually like this." Lol
Lmao i feel bad
14:33-14:41 OMG I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING! 🤣🤣🤣
"Yup... it's Franklin."
This is a very funny movie. Dennis Hopper is hilarious in it.
I LOVE THIS MOVIE!
I remember when this came out on VHS at the time, the rental store was giving out Texas Chainsaw Chili seasoning packets with a pamphlet showing the "Family Recipe"! It was really funny, saying to strain out the bones, and to add some beans, but not too many, because you have to save room for Lots Of Meat! The logo was priceless.
Wait a second...Leatherface's chainsaw is meant to represent a phallic symbol is this movie?
"That's a dick!"
The joke was right there, and Brad blew it.
Pros:
--It's a Cannon film.
--Dennis Hopper.
--Tom Savini's effects.
--Chop Top.
Cons:
--No Chuck Norris vs Leatherface.
--Tobe Hooper should've left in the "Die Yuppie Scum" scene.
--On a personal note, the guts coming out of the wall almost made me puke (To be fair, I was sleep-deprived and full of gas station burritos when I watched it).
Chuck Norris would take down Leatherface with a single roundhouse kick, the movie would only be 10 minutes long
Glad that TCM2 won, but looking forward to seeing the Phantasm review hopefully in the near future.
Never drink anything while watching one of Brads Videos cause you’re almost guaranteed to spit you’re drink out in laughter
Dennis Hopper, Lord of the Harvest.
Isnt that a health food bunch or something?
Did the chicken shit burrito man send ya!?
"DOG WILL HUNT!!!"
I unironically love this movie. It's just so bonkers. The TCM series was all downhill after this.
*after the first
The remake was good though
It was downhill after 4. That one was an absolute embarrassment, and it was from Kim Henkel too!
*after The Beginning
Oh my achin banana!
It's been over 30 years, still the best TCM sequel.
There’s so much I love about this film, from the soundtrack, to the satire poster, to the teaser, it’s better than it gets credit for.
What happens when Dennis Hopper meets a chainsaw wielding serial killer?
I'm not sure, I'm still trying to figure out what he was doing in Super Mario Brothers....
In an interview, he said that "his son needed new shoes", to which his son replied "Dad, I didn't need shoes that badly."
Monkey...
A few years ago, I had a dream that I was directing a spinoff/prequel about Private Sawyer's tour of duty in Vietnam, complete with a youthful Bill Moseley and a fairly healthy budget. Needless to say, I was super disappointed when I woke up.
That is an awesome dream.
@@Sand-Walker13
I thought about writing it up, but no way in hell I could ever get financing. . . or young Bill Moseley.
@@SewerTapes I'd honestly like to see it written out as a script. I'd read the heck out of it.
I cannot believe with the great soundtrack in this movie they didn't include the Jackyl song "The Lumberjack". That the song came out 6 years after this movie was released is no excuse.
Between the chainsaw duel and the forced family dinner this makes me wonder if it had influence on Resident Evil 7.
Yes, it did. I remember reading that tcm was one of the inspirations for re7. Great game, great movie!
Cheers.
You ain't kidding Snob. An old manager of mine who was pushing about 55 in the early 2000's, took me down memory lane telling me how down in Texas he'd get the same deputy chasing him around drunk and always ended the same-"you crazy bastard .when you gonna cut out the nonsense?"
Crazy, I’ve been thinking over the past few days how much I wanted a TCM snob review and now here it is
"His chainsaw is blessed by the lord"
What a phrase. It would make an amazing out of context quote.
My first DVD I bought in 2004 from best buy store Dearborn Michigan Detroit and still got it 18 years later
I loved this movie from my first viewing. I was a kid at the time and had no idea who Dennis Hopper was. Then many years later I saw The Devil's Rejects and didn't realize the first time I saw it that the actor playing Otis in that movie had played Chop Top in this movie. LOL
8:18 That's fitting since Oingo Boingo's 'No One Lives Forever' is on this soundtrack (and also the soundtrack to 'Shrunken Heads' which was directed by Danny Elfman's brother Rick).
13:35 He suffered a machete wound to the head during the Vietnam War that cleaved off part of his skull. That's why he has the plate. Doesn't explain why his face looks the way it does.
I love the line: “I'm the Lord of the Harvest!”
“What's that? Some new health food bunch?”
Definitely a movie that has grown on me. When I first watched it, I hated it. After the first movie, I was not expecting a comedic film. But now I really like
I don't get how it's comedic. Because crazy people are weirdos?
Funnily enough, Tobe Hooper even considered the first one a comedy. An ultra dark comedy. But a comedy. He kind of has a point.
teenage kids back then thought it was funny...
@@thegreenbird795 I can see why. The whole thing is like an endurance test and if you can get through it you’ll probably laugh about it. It’s just how absurd it gets. Like, it begins as this coming of age film set on a road trip in rural Texas and without a whole lot of foreshadowing, this crazy guy pops up and kills four of the characters in rapid succession.
Lol i watched it for the first time like a week ago without knowing Tobe's intentions of it being a dark comedy and i thought it was quite funny, but it was also stressful at times and i get how people could have missed the comddic elements
blues brothers vs leatherface now that would be a movie.
'we're on a mission from god'
' i'm the lord of the harvest.'
Will you have the entire series done in the next 23 years? Asking for a friend!
Hopper is a legend! No matter how crap the script is, Hopper will bring his A game to every scene he's in! Love this man!
This one has always been my favorite TCM movie. The dark humor and horror combination just works.
My favorite Texas chainsaw film!
Super Mario Bros would have been 1000× better if Hopper had acted exactly like this in it.
Dog will hunt! *Primus intensifies*
The corpse that Chop-Top and Leatherface carry around with them and affectionately call 'Nubbins' (also appearing on the original cover art) is that of the hitchhiker from The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), Nubbins Sawyer.
Director, Tobe Hooper and co-writer of the original The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), Kim Henkel originally had an idea for a sequel that would feature an entire town of cannibals, and also be a satire of the film Motel Hell (1980), which itself was a satire of the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The title of that sequel was to be 'Beyond The Valley Of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre', but the studio forced considerable changes to be made to the screenplay, even hiring a new screenwriter, and the result of those changes are what became Texas Chainsaw Massacre part 2.
The "family group shot," as seen in the advertisements, posters, and video covers, uses the same positioning as the promotional group shot for the movie The Breakfast Club (1985).
Dennis Hopper thought this was the worst movie he'd ever been in. He later said the same thing about Super Mario Bros. (1993).
Bill Moseley created a short film parody entitled "The Texas Chainsaw Manicure" where he played a small role as The Hitchhiker and showed it to a screenwriter, who was able to show it to Tobe Hooper. Hooper loved it and kept Moseley in mind for a part should he ever make a sequel. When the time came to cast "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2", Moseley was contacted for the role of Chop-Top, The Hitchhiker's twin brother.
Lefty finds the skeleton of Franklin sitting in his wheelchair from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Lefty is Franklin and Sally's uncle.
Bill Moseley has said that his role as Chop-Top is his favorite of his own.
Caroline Williams wanted to make a strong impression at her audition. When she was called in, she went to the end of the hallway and ran screaming into the room, where she pulled Tobe Hooper and L.M. Kit Carson out of their seats and used the chairs to barricade the door before she began her scene.
Tom Savini once stated that the makeup effects that he created for Grandpa is his most proud accomplishment, which he compares to the makeup for the aged Dustin Hoffman in Little Big Man (1970).
Final film of Jim Siedow
Primus sampled Chop-Top's line "Dog will hunt!" for their song 'Jerry Was a Race Car Driver
Many fans of The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974) disliked this movie due to its emphasis on gore and wacky humor. Tobe Hooper has argued that black humor was also present in the original film, but viewers did not acknowledge it because of its shocking content.
Tobe Hooper was originally just going to produce this movie. He eventually took over directorial duties as the film's low budget meant that they were unable to hire an affordable director.
A lengthy scene in which the Sawyer family goes out hunting for prime meat was cut for pacing but is present on the Gruesome Edition DVD.
A fire erupted one night in the downtown Austin building where much of the movie took place. When firemen arrived, they found bodies and thought they'd stumbled upon the lair of a psychopathic murderer
interview, Tobe Hooper said that cutting the film down to 90 to 100 minutes was a major priority for Cannon so they could have more screenings per day and potentially make more money.
The chainsaw used in this film belongs to Tobe Hooper and it rests in a glass display case.
The name of the hitchhiker from the first film is revealed at the end of this film when Drayton Sawyer gets a grenade off of his corpse and says "Come here, Nubbins".
When originally submitted to the MPAA, it received an "X" certificate, prompting the filmmakers to release it as "unrated".
Tobe Hooper consciously concentrated on the black comedy element of the film as he felt that had been overlooked in the original movie.
The controversial "butcher cover" of The Beatles' album "Yesterday and Today" can be seen hanging in the radio station.
Chop-Top asks Stretch if the tape of the opening scene murders is from "the Rambo III (1988) soundtrack". 'Rambo III' had not yet been written at the time 'The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2' came out. It was released two years later, by Carolco.
In the Sawyer clan's lair, there hangs a skeleton from the ceiling, riding a bomb and waving a cowboy hat over its head. This is an homage to the end scene in Stanley Kubrick's "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb" from 1964.
When Lefty is in the Cut-Rite store picking chainsaws off the wall, the same model saw used by Leatherface in the first film can be seen - a Poulan 245A.
The silver saw that Lefty used was a Dolmar chainsaw. It was made for only two years and the model is unknown.
Gunnar Hansen was approached to reprise his role as Leatherface, but he claimed to have been offered "scale plus 10 percent" with the 10 percent going to his agent. When he replied that he had no agent, they offered him scale without the additional 10 percent. Hansen found the offer too low. Unit publicist Scott Holton offered an alternate story, claiming Hansen vacillated about the part and the offer was rescinded. Holton didn't believe the average viewer was even aware of who the original actors were, claiming, "Who are Neal, Hansen, or Burns?"
Edwin Neal, who played Chop-Top's twin brother The Hitchhiker in the first film, was actually a Vietnam veteran in real life.
A poster can be seen on the wall in the radio station for the band Fine Young Cannibals.
John Bloom was cast and his name is listed in the closing credits, but his scenes were edited out of the final version
Whereas the first film has an undeserved reputation for being extremely gory (it's not), this sequel dispenses with that notion and ups the splatter content.
Right after Stretch plays the tape of the chainsaw killing, she puts on the same Star Spangled Banner theme that played in Poltergeist (1982) - another Tobe Hooper movie.
(at around 30 mins) After L.G. leaves the radio station, Stretch plays The Lords of the New Church's 'Mind Warp'. The song is uncredited, though it was included in the soundtrack LP.
Grandma's chainsaw, at the end of the movie, was a Poulan 361.
The chainsaw used by Leatherface is a Craftsman 4300.
In contrast to the majority of horror films, all the victims who die are men.
Body count: 8
The Sawyers all end up being chainsawed to death (Leatherface and Chop-Top are impaled through the guts, while Drayton is stabbed/hacked through the back) as a result of one of their latest victims and a relative of their victims from the first film.
Executive producers Golan and Globus initially signaled they would seek no less than an 'R' from the Motion Picture Association of America's Classification and Rating Administration; The Cannon Group later announced that they planned to release 'Massacre 2' unrated, having failed to get an 'R' from the MPAA; Only after the picture had been screened twice in Los Angeles and failed on both occasions to get an 'R', despite trimming off some of the 'bloodier scenes'. This is why, even though the film was released, in America, Unrated; it was neither Tobe Hooper's preferred director's assembly, much less, uncut, by any means.
Cannon and Cinema Snob go together like chocolate and peanut butter. Deliciously sweet.
When are we getting the review of Alabama Weed Whacker Massacre 4?
The Sword and the Sorcerer? Holy shit I love that movie!
I actually met Caroline Williams once at a convention years ago. To say that she is awesome in person is an understatement.
Omg thats so nice I'd love to meet her
Ah, here we go! Been waiting for Snob to get back to this series for a while.
Favourite movie of the series. 80s AS FUCK!
This and Exorcist 3 are tied for best build up to sudden Jump scare for me
While TCM2 is the film that has dividing opinions for the fandom, atleast I can say that it's certainly better than Texas Chainsaw Massacre 4 "The Next Generation".
4 is weird, but I can't say it is bad. The remake prequel and the 3D one are bad. I don't think that 4 belongs in the same category as those two.
Kick ass! Another classic gets the Cinema Snob treatment.
This is one of my fave horror comedies of all time. I've met Bill Johnson and Bill Moseley and have talked to them on Facebook. Great people and is fun to talk too!
Pop Quiz Hot Shot! There is a sheriff dual wielding two chainsaws franticly screaming he is the lord of the harvest. What do you do?
Get on a bus driven by Sandra Bullock?
Even though I haven’t seen this film, from what I’ve heard of it, it’s an absolute blast.
It is . the kind of movie being drunk was made for.
It's absolutely insane in the best possible way.
Watch it. It's awesome.
Dude, it is; definitely check it out you will not be disappointed
This was my first Texas Chainsaw movie, and that scene of her with the saw at the end always stuck with me. Also, the scene with Leatherface coming out of the record vault when the lights come on never fails to make me jump, even when I know it's coming
Stretch having to wear the skin of her dead buddy was so horrific and hilarious. No wonder she's traumatized by the end.
Mhm poor stretch and L.G
"So if I bang the saw, its incest!!" Classic line Mr. Snob.
Just wish someone would either find or release All American Massacre, the lost Chop-Top film with Buckethead playing Leatherface, and Bill Moseley reprising his roll as Chop-Top, there's 2 lost films I hope some day get found, London After Midnight & AAM.
We got kicked out of the cinema sneaking in to see this.
The cut i saw as a kid had the last shot uncropped so you could see cars on the freeway in the distance which unsettled the fuck outta me.
Every trip i ever went on as a kid always had me thinking what fucking chainsaw esque shenanigans could be happeninng just off the road.
My favorite Chainsaw movie! Poster hanging in the living room. :)
I live in south Texas, Leatherface still out here.
nothing satisfies more than knowing snob approves of the McConaughey cyborg
I know right? Everyone applauds part 2 for being strange and different but put down part 4 for the same reasons. I'm not saying 4 is better than 2 but it sure is a messed up, entertaining trip of a movie! You also get to see the annoying Renee Z. get tazered a bunch of times! That's almost worth the price of admission alone. Lol Yeah, I know I'm messed up ;)
Saw this movie when I was a little kid, and had never really watched horror or gorey movies much before. Nightmare fuel for years. As an adult it's hilarious.
I didn't like it when I first saw it as a kid, but re-watching it years later, I really enjoyed it.
My top favorite sequel to a groundbreaking slasher classic ever!!! Even our dear old Tobe Hooper (RIP) called this one the best of the films he made for Cannon (although LIFEFORCE is my personal pick of the litter).
Love this sequel, one of funniest movies ive seen
Madman was one of the first "slasher" flicks I saw as a teenager (in 1983 on VHS no less) you have to do it someday! I would love to see you tear it apart!
When I saw The 'Burbs for the first time, I knew I had to rent TCM 2!
I love this movie to death just everything about it is just pure gold I've played a set of friends house no one knew what the fuck was going on and the part with Leatherface came out of the room with the light out with a chainsaw bland everybody jumping I was just laughing Good times
I won't forget the first time I watched this and my first thoughts were " what the fuck did I watch" and honestly my thoughts are still the same. This is a weird and great movie.
Bill Moseley is so on point in this. I saw this at my first job in a movie theatre as a teenager & on shrooms lolol it was the perfect movie for that. I had no clue the way it just went off in all kinds of directions with the tunnels etc wth was going on. It seemed 10 hours long. I’ve loved it ever since.
I would like to see Brad do a Snob review of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre III and IV if he hasn't already. I know the fourth one has Matthew McConaughey and Renee Zellweger in it!
He hasn't. Strangely he's only done this one and the original. And he tackled the original like 8 years ago
@@Campbellzilla thanks, I didn’t know that!
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2: Chop Tops Electric Dancing Shoes is Edited with a Chainsaw and Lord of the Dance, great Review
While I remember seeing the box cover I never rented it. Clearly I have to change that.
I thought Christmas only came once a year: but you cut the best line the cook has: "sex is, well... nobody knows"
I honestly like the texas chainsaw massacre 2 alot. I love chop top and I think bill moseley did a perfect job playing the character. I also like dennis hopper in this movie and I thought it was a great sequel over all. I thought it was pretty entertaining and an interesting horror film. I also think it's the best texas chainsaw massacre sequel.
I know it didn't win the poll, but would you review the Phantasm films one of these days? Pretty please!
I've never clicked on a video so fast. Also, where are these old videos I keep hearing about lol
A great movie for you to review would be "Never Too Young To Die" with John Stamos and Gene Simmons
11:10 - And that's the part were she enters the Netherrealm and meets Scorpion.
If you watch the end of TCM 2 and pay attention to what is happening behind Stretch, you'll notice something interesting. It's hard to make out but I think it is supposed to be an image of the cannibal family's Mother about to attack Stretch. I am talking about the last few frames of the movie.
Horror films are definitely your best reviews!
The “are you sure it’s Franklin” bit made me spit my coffee out
Now that you mention it, a Death Wish/TCM crossover would be cool.
I remember the wacky family and lair made this movie even more bat ship freaky as a kid.
This was my first Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie. Then I saw the fourth one.
What I wouldn't give for just a gram of the fine Peruvian flake that helped Dennis Hopper with this standout performance!
I love Brad Jones he's one of the few channel awesome guys that I still respect, and he has always really had a great charisma and energy about him.
I love when he references The 'Burbs
YES YES YES!!! I got Cannibal AND TCM2 from you in just a matter of months and I've been waiting on those for like, ten years!! This is my faaaave. I watch it with a smile every time lol. Bill Moseley is the greatest.
I saw this at the drive in. I never noticed that Lefty drove an Edsel. Great show!
Now please review Phantasm... ;)
RIP Kinky Friedman, who played the Sports Anchorman in the film.
my family has kind of an in joke with this movie as the lead lady looks just like my aunt back when this movie came out lmao. same hair cut and everything. as a kid i didn't know how badly dennis hopper was phoning it is. as an adult you can tell he doesn't wanna be there, he just says his lines. its still entertaining but yeah lol. this is one of my moms fav movies and i remember seeing the VHS all the time as a kid and when i got older i watched it and its awesome, its so fun.
even just phoning it in, he still looks like he's giving one hell of a performance.
It's out there.
Until he said it, I hadn't realized my first exposure to this flick was from The Burbs too.
Way to go, Stretch and Lefty:) Although, did they REALLY have to change Sally's last name in the scrawl? 'Lefty Hardesty' sounds a thousand times better! It's funny that in the draft of the script I read, it said the first movie happened in the late 60s and that Chop Top was really the Hitchhiker--he totally survived getting splattered into pieces by that truck! I love his hippie clothes and eating flecks of his skull flesh:) Plus, Leatherface getting confused by his sexual attraction to Stretch--Jeff Burr would totally take that and amp it up by not only having the new family talking about how much he likes playing with girly parts but giving him a daughter;) And ONE of the alternate endings was Tobe's town of cannibals idea, revealed by the completely not obviously evil cop who asked Michelle what was wrong with the airline:) And the chromed saw with 'The Saw Is Family' on it! Part 3 is my favorite of the franchise for everything about it (unfortunately there were a lot of studio interferences, but Jeff Burr did all he could to make it for Tobe as a reboot sequel, doing a great job of positively progressing Leatherface's character from how he was in the first one) but there are great elements in this one too:)
I see TCSM 2 like I see Evil Dead 2.
Understated in your video, but that is such a fascinating observation into the eyeball glasses as an allusion to the Sawyer family upholstery situation...!!! Well done!
This ranks 2 in retro amusing horror flicks in my experience, lol. House ranks number 1, Phantasm number 3.
TCM 2 and Lonestar both filmed in Austin TX