My wife bought me a new 400D back in 2007 and I would never part withit for these reasons, 1. Its simple to use with no unnecessary features. 2. It still works perfectly. 3. It takes great photos. I will never buy a new camera when this old tech still gives such good results.
I think of this as something like mini 5d. Stick a nice bit of glass on the 400d and the results are great. Here’s to many more years of life for these old dslrs🖖
As always David, it's really refreshing to look at one of the older DSLRs rather than the normal "must have all the latest features" stuff - I'd happily shoot that 400D any day of the week. Nice set of shots from it too, looking forward to whatever is next in line.
I have a few new ones that I’ve not made videos about before coming soon, I’m just waiting on the weather to not be consistently grey so I can get some nice sample images with them. Thanks for watching, Tim🖖
@DavidFlowerOfficial The weather seems to torment me - on a day I can't get out, it's all lovely and bright, then when I have the time, it's like it is today! Still, it'll be fun to see what you've got as and when.
This was the camera that made me switch from film only around 2 to 3 years ago. I had got hold of an EOS D60 in a box of cameras and loved the images, a friend recommended this as another incredibly cheap entry into digital. I bought one for £40 and was shocked by how well it rendered colours - so the 5D engine observation is very interesting. Using such a small body with a 50mm prime and small memory card reminded me of shooting with a 1960s rangefinder - I loved it. I eventually bought a 6D and stupidly gave this away to someone as a start into photography. I instantly regretted it and have just bought a 450D to replace it - I was seduced by the 12MP sensor and live view! It's definitely a sunny Sunday street photography walkabout camera, and works great with 40mm STM. My 450 will definitely get an airing when the sun starts shining again.
Someone gave me a free 400d a few months back that they had laying around. It's as simple as they get. It really brings me back to the old days of film cameras when I first fell in love with photography. And the colors of the images remind me of Kodachrome film in a lot of ways. Like you said, similar to the 5D classic color science.
Awesome flash back I feel this old guys and still very useful in the year of 2024..ps u need the efs 24mm for that guy....not too long got mines and it's an awesome canon lens and would fit awesome on the rebel
I was considering something like that but I don’t shoot wide that often so I usually stick with the 50. I do have a vintage 28mm that I’ve used with it though and that was quite fun🖖
If you want the best from this and most cameras you need to shoot raw and do some work in post, but if you want nice out of camera colours, I always use the ‘faithful’ colour setting🖖
Great video! I dusted off my 400d after being dormant for since 2015 and brought it to a trip to Disneyland Paris. I fell in love with photography again. Now I have two 400ds and a couple of lenses.
Great camera considering how old it is! I got the 50mm because of one of your videos and it made the camera shine ! I also got a godox tt350C and it works perfectly ! Awesome results from such an old piece of tech ! I also got a used 6D and I really need a new lens so I can use both cameras when going out for street photography. The 24-105mm F4L seems interesting but I'm still doing research...
Cheers, mate. I just love how much you can do with the raw files from this little camera. Those old canon colours in the JPEGs too are lovely. Thanks for watching, Grant🖖
I still have and love my XTi. It's not my newest camera or my best photographic tool, or my most used any more but if you keep it at ISO 400 or better it still delivers great pictures. I also have the battery grip and have to say its ergonomics with that are excellent. These days you have to go with a $3000 Canon body before they will support a battery grip. Also, the build quality of this vintage of Rebel body is better than later Rebels (I have a T7i) and maybe even better than my Canon EOS R8. The simplicity of this camera is a breath of fresh air. No frills. You will learn to shoot through the viewfinder, choose focus and recompose as your technique, and with decent glass get great pictures.
I made a video recently about modern noise reduction and how some of these older cameras respond really well to it providing you show a little restraint and don’t get stupid with it. As I recall I got some reasonably good results with the 400d at around 1600 iso with NR at around 30% in Lightroom. Of course I’d always prefer to shoot with a lower iso on these older cameras, but the fact you can get nice looking results upto around 1600 if you really need it is awesome. Thanks for watching 🖖
Yeah for sure, I always shoot either raw or raw+jpeg so I have all possible options with regards processing and the raw files are surprisingly malleable 🖖
Oh that’s an easy one. Just get a card reader capable of reading cf cards. You could also just use the mini usb port on the camera if memory serves but the transfer rates are always super slow compared with a card reader. The reader I use is just an incredibly cheap Polaroid branded one I got from a supermarket which cost me about £7🖖
Thank you for the video. Whenever the title mentions an old camera; no need to emphasize it’s not feature-packed. Old Gold lovers watch such videos for the camera’s photographic attributes - not features.
You say that, but it’s mainly for those people who are new to the game who don’t realise that the features seen in today’s mirrorless cameras are relatively new and in many cases, unnecessary. So the point of this video and, in fact, this whole series pretty much, is to show that these older cameras are still good options for new photographers, despite their limitations. Thanks for watching 🖖
@@DavidFlowerOfficial thank you. As a hobbyist experienced photographer; all my gears are of old model. Only we recognise how capable they are. The current generation is carried away by trend and gimmicks and not so focused on quality image creation. To me too much feature -packed bodies are liability.
@quazisanjeed6395 Absolutely agree, many of the features we have access to in modern cameras are there to simply make them more appealing in a pretty competitive market. My Olympus em1 mark ii and lumix gh5 are my daily cameras for photo and video respectively and for everything I do for my professional work and this channel with these cameras, I’m pretty sure I don’t use half of what they’re capable of, I simply don’t need them 😂 Wishing you a great day mate🖖
Not sure. Perhaps given it’s an older camera , that there’s some dirt build up beneath the button. I have a few buttons on my canon 6d that need a bit of a firm push sometimes. Maybe try giving it a blast with an air blower🖖
Do you have some tips to work with focus? I bought a 400D but I'm almost changing my camera for a 60D because I can't shot any sharp photo with it =/ I'm using the Kit lens and 50mm (that I have more control and sharpness)
Older canon cameras didn’t have the great auto focus they are regarded for today until they started using dual pixel af around the time of the 70d, so I doubt you’d see a major improvement between the 400d and 60d as they both have a 9 point af system that predates dpaf. I only ever use the centre focus point on my older canon cameras, including the 6d, 5d, 40d and 400d because that’s really the only one that’s accurate so I find it necessary to focus and recompose and that’s worked for me.
@@DavidFlowerOfficialDoes it not throw the metering off when you focus and recompose? I'm considering getting an old DSLR but worry about messing up shots because I'm so used to relying on the histogram in my bridge camera's viewfinder.
@arrow501 It can depending on the scene and the look you’re trying to achieve, but you can observe the meter and fine tune exposure with the top dial or, if you’re shooting raw, you have more wiggle room in post as long as you’re not blowing highlights or crushing black when you recompose. It’s something I’ve been doing since pretty much day 1 and don’t recall a single time when focus and recompose has thrown the exposure so far off that it’s been unusable 🖖
Ah so you were referring to focusing without live view? My mistake. It’s pretty much the exact same way it was done with 35mm film cameras, you just eyeball it, but there are things you can get to make things a little easier like the Canon Angle finder which is a view finder accessory that allows 2x zoom to aid with manual focus👍
😅😅😅 I still have it with an extra telelens. I was wondering if I am going to buy myself a new one, or an IPhone 15 pro. Haven’t decided yet. But my 400D isn’t going anywhere. I shot many seriously good pictures with it. Which I didn’t even had to edit. Still love It! ❤
Hi i have a 400d aswell and my lcd is already strruggling a bit. Do you know if I can use the video out port to plug into my phone so I can have a better screen?
i have this 400D and macbook air M2 and my camera is just blinking BUSY and EOS utility does not work on latest Sonoma... Some sites says that you need to change PTP to Normal in communications but there is no such options in this camera either? How did you import photos from this camera to your computer? please...
I use a pc and just plug the cf card into an external card reader. I’ve never had any problems this way and based on pretty much every camera I’ve used the transfer is also much faster using a card reader🖖
@@HondaTeamRacingDid it work out? I also have this camera and the MacBook M2 and haven’t tried it yet. It would be truly disappointing if I can’t transfer my photos to my MacBook. 😢
I've been using a 400D for a couple of months now and just thoroughly hate it. I won't deny that it's capable of taking good pictures, but everything about the experience feels bad.
What is your opinion on Sony a200? I am using one with minolta lenses, but I'm thinking of buying a full frame or a mirrorles one. What would you recommend?
I haven’t used the a200, but I own the a350. As someone who owns and has used full frame for over a decade I can honestly say that for the majority of users in the majority of situations, full frame is unnecessary. If you need a super shallow dof or regularly shoot in very low light, then sure, full frame make sense, but for everything else the smaller sensors are more than good enough. If you’re already in a Sony system you could step into any of the a6000 cameras and with one of the ea5 style adapters, you could still make use of your A mount lenses. There have been so many great cameras made since the a200 though, that you’re pretty much spoilt for choice. I’d think about how and what you shoot, then look at lenses you might want and see which system best fits your needs because most cameras from the last decade are pretty good🖖😁
i have a younger brother he's 12 he's intrested in photography and all of that , so i bought this camera ! will it help him maybe find what hes looking for ? anyone please ?
I think this is a great starting point. It’s simple enough to not get lost in the menus and allows full manual control over the settings if needed. Add that to the fact that it’s a small light camera capable of producing great images and it’s great. My youngest son is around the same age as your brother and he’s used this with no problems🖖
I've heard you mentioning your 'Dad' giving you stuff before. I hope 'Dad' isn't just your alibi for filling shelves with old cameras.... And btw... saying you've big hands - how do you cope with those horrible little Olympus things? Have you battery-gripped them? What about all those accidental button pushes? I only ask because i've recently got one and the smallness of it just seems like utter bullshit (although i do like that i can select my focus point using my nose). And don't get me started about its balance when you stick a decent lump of glass on the front. What were they thinking?
Haha, no, I probably mentioned it in the videos when I’ve used the 400d in the past. There are so many cameras at this point I’m pretty sure my good lady wouldn’t even notice another addition 😂 Thanks for watching, mate🖖
Regarding the size of the Olympus (assuming you mean the em1 and em10 mark 2’s) the em10 I use primarily as a waist level shooter when I use it( which isn’t often lately since giving it to my youngest son) so the size is mostly an advantage since I can hold it in one palm and either use the touch screen or the shutter button and my big old nose doesn’t mess with any of the buttons. Either way the em1 mark ii it’s as big as many ff mirrorless and is probably the best camera I’ve ever used in terms of ergonomics.
Yeah I owned the 40D but as it's basically the same sensor as the 400D and absolutely massive by comparison, I sold it. Great camera, but an absolute tank 😂
EOS 400D is a hall-of-famer 🙌
My wife bought me a new 400D back in 2007 and I would never part withit for these reasons, 1. Its simple to use with no unnecessary features. 2. It still works perfectly. 3. It takes great photos.
I will never buy a new camera when this old tech still gives such good results.
I think of this as something like mini 5d. Stick a nice bit of glass on the 400d and the results are great.
Here’s to many more years of life for these old dslrs🖖
Hi. I still have mine with the original kit lens. Any suggestions for a higher quality general purpose lens?
50mm STM
Just look at those images! Pure gold gloss!!!!!!
Thanks for watching🖖
As always David, it's really refreshing to look at one of the older DSLRs rather than the normal "must have all the latest features" stuff - I'd happily shoot that 400D any day of the week. Nice set of shots from it too, looking forward to whatever is next in line.
I have a few new ones that I’ve not made videos about before coming soon, I’m just waiting on the weather to not be consistently grey so I can get some nice sample images with them.
Thanks for watching, Tim🖖
@DavidFlowerOfficial The weather seems to torment me - on a day I can't get out, it's all lovely and bright, then when I have the time, it's like it is today! Still, it'll be fun to see what you've got as and when.
This was the camera that made me switch from film only around 2 to 3 years ago.
I had got hold of an EOS D60 in a box of cameras and loved the images, a friend recommended this as another incredibly cheap entry into digital.
I bought one for £40 and was shocked by how well it rendered colours - so the 5D engine observation is very interesting.
Using such a small body with a 50mm prime and small memory card reminded me of shooting with a 1960s rangefinder - I loved it.
I eventually bought a 6D and stupidly gave this away to someone as a start into photography.
I instantly regretted it and have just bought a 450D to replace it - I was seduced by the 12MP sensor and live view!
It's definitely a sunny Sunday street photography walkabout camera, and works great with 40mm STM.
My 450 will definitely get an airing when the sun starts shining again.
Someone gave me a free 400d a few months back that they had laying around. It's as simple as they get. It really brings me back to the old days of film cameras when I first fell in love with photography. And the colors of the images remind me of Kodachrome film in a lot of ways. Like you said, similar to the 5D classic color science.
Awesome flash back I feel this old guys and still very useful in the year of 2024..ps u need the efs 24mm for that guy....not too long got mines and it's an awesome canon lens and would fit awesome on the rebel
I was considering something like that but I don’t shoot wide that often so I usually stick with the 50. I do have a vintage 28mm that I’ve used with it though and that was quite fun🖖
Thx David! A very great view a few years back!
My first DSLR! I bought another one recently because I couldn’t resist the $20 price tag. It does all the things a camera is supposed to do.
The camera to get me started in the DSLR world. Donated to my cousin still uses it
That’s the way! keep these awesome cameras in use.
Have a good one🖖
Bring back the oldies
Just bought this yesterday in a charity shop for a decent price. CF card is on the way today, can't wait to take it for a spin
It’s one of those cameras that just gets the job done. No frills, no fancy nonsense, just good pictures.
I hope you love it as much as I do 🖖
Still have mine and will not let it go. As you say, the colours are great!
I didn't used it offen in the past because of the pale colours... Could you tell me your settings?
If you want the best from this and most cameras you need to shoot raw and do some work in post, but if you want nice out of camera colours, I always use the ‘faithful’ colour setting🖖
@@DavidFlowerOfficial thank you very much
Great video! I dusted off my 400d after being dormant for since 2015 and brought it to a trip to Disneyland Paris. I fell in love with photography again. Now I have two 400ds and a couple of lenses.
That’s awesome. I’m all about cameras that are enjoyable to use and I think the 400d has that in abundance.
Thanks for watching 🖖
Great camera considering how old it is! I got the 50mm because of one of your videos and it made the camera shine ! I also got a godox tt350C and it works perfectly ! Awesome results from such an old piece of tech ! I also got a used 6D and I really need a new lens so I can use both cameras when going out for street photography. The 24-105mm F4L seems interesting but I'm still doing research...
Awesome! Can’t beat the old cameras 🖖🏻
Absolutely! I love these old Canon cameras🖖
Nice shots mate :) Watta great little camera :)
Cheers, mate. I just love how much you can do with the raw files from this little camera. Those old canon colours in the JPEGs too are lovely.
Thanks for watching, Grant🖖
I still have and love my XTi. It's not my newest camera or my best photographic tool, or my most used any more but if you keep it at ISO 400 or better it still delivers great pictures.
I also have the battery grip and have to say its ergonomics with that are excellent. These days you have to go with a $3000 Canon body before they will support a battery grip.
Also, the build quality of this vintage of Rebel body is better than later Rebels (I have a T7i) and maybe even better than my Canon EOS R8.
The simplicity of this camera is a breath of fresh air. No frills. You will learn to shoot through the viewfinder, choose focus and recompose as your technique, and with decent glass get great pictures.
I made a video recently about modern noise reduction and how some of these older cameras respond really well to it providing you show a little restraint and don’t get stupid with it. As I recall I got some reasonably good results with the 400d at around 1600 iso with NR at around 30% in Lightroom. Of course I’d always prefer to shoot with a lower iso on these older cameras, but the fact you can get nice looking results upto around 1600 if you really need it is awesome.
Thanks for watching 🖖
@@DavidFlowerOfficial Modern noise reduction software can revive older images shot on these cameras, especially if you kept the RAW files.
Yeah for sure, I always shoot either raw or raw+jpeg so I have all possible options with regards processing and the raw files are surprisingly malleable 🖖
I really like the pictures you made with this camera. Its so inspiring me to grab this old fellow. Share more with us shooting with this camera, Dave.
Thanks very much, I’m happy you enjoyed the video. There’s definitely going to be more with this camera in the future.
Have a good one 🖖
I use this camera with old Soviet lenses, I love this camera ❤️
Yeah I love it with my Helios 44-m🖖😁
@@DavidFlowerOfficial And I like to go with Jupiter37a and Industar 50-2😄
Hey David id love it if you explain how I can transfer images from the xti to my laptop
Oh that’s an easy one. Just get a card reader capable of reading cf cards. You could also just use the mini usb port on the camera if memory serves but the transfer rates are always super slow compared with a card reader. The reader I use is just an incredibly cheap Polaroid branded one I got from a supermarket which cost me about £7🖖
I still have my 350d. Was my fist camera 😊
Thank you for the video.
Whenever the title mentions an old camera; no need to emphasize it’s not feature-packed. Old Gold lovers watch such videos for the camera’s photographic attributes - not features.
You say that, but it’s mainly for those people who are new to the game who don’t realise that the features seen in today’s mirrorless cameras are relatively new and in many cases, unnecessary.
So the point of this video and, in fact, this whole series pretty much, is to show that these older cameras are still good options for new photographers, despite their limitations.
Thanks for watching 🖖
@@DavidFlowerOfficial thank you.
As a hobbyist experienced photographer; all my gears are of old model. Only we recognise how capable they are. The current generation is carried away by trend and gimmicks and not so focused on quality image creation. To me too much feature -packed bodies are liability.
@quazisanjeed6395 Absolutely agree, many of the features we have access to in modern cameras are there to simply make them more appealing in a pretty competitive market.
My Olympus em1 mark ii and lumix gh5 are my daily cameras for photo and video respectively and for everything I do for my professional work and this channel with these cameras, I’m pretty sure I don’t use half of what they’re capable of, I simply don’t need them 😂
Wishing you a great day mate🖖
Great video!! I just picked up this model, it was my first DSLR ... What lenses did you use for the video?
Almost every image was shot using the cheap plastic 50mm f1.8.
Thanks for watching🖖
Why does my menu button not work? Just bought this for 30 bucks from someone. Rest everything works perfectly
Not sure. Perhaps given it’s an older camera , that there’s some dirt build up beneath the button. I have a few buttons on my canon 6d that need a bit of a firm push sometimes.
Maybe try giving it a blast with an air blower🖖
what is its exposure time?
Do you have some tips to work with focus? I bought a 400D but I'm almost changing my camera for a 60D because I can't shot any sharp photo with it =/
I'm using the Kit lens and 50mm (that I have more control and sharpness)
Older canon cameras didn’t have the great auto focus they are regarded for today until they started using dual pixel af around the time of the 70d, so I doubt you’d see a major improvement between the 400d and 60d as they both have a 9 point af system that predates dpaf.
I only ever use the centre focus point on my older canon cameras, including the 6d, 5d, 40d and 400d because that’s really the only one that’s accurate so I find it necessary to focus and recompose and that’s worked for me.
@@DavidFlowerOfficialDoes it not throw the metering off when you focus and recompose? I'm considering getting an old DSLR but worry about messing up shots because I'm so used to relying on the histogram in my bridge camera's viewfinder.
@@DavidFlowerOfficial My only thought was to use 6D's liveview to zoom in and focus, tactical that I saw a lot. But thank you so much.
@arrow501 It can depending on the scene and the look you’re trying to achieve, but you can observe the meter and fine tune exposure with the top dial or, if you’re shooting raw, you have more wiggle room in post as long as you’re not blowing highlights or crushing black when you recompose.
It’s something I’ve been doing since pretty much day 1 and don’t recall a single time when focus and recompose has thrown the exposure so far off that it’s been unusable 🖖
Ah so you were referring to focusing without live view? My mistake.
It’s pretty much the exact same way it was done with 35mm film cameras, you just eyeball it, but there are things you can get to make things a little easier like the Canon Angle finder which is a view finder accessory that allows 2x zoom to aid with manual focus👍
Im about to give mine to a friend tomorrow, and i know I'm gonna miss it 😭
Well hopefully your friend appreciates it for the awesome little camera it is🖖😁
😅😅😅 I still have it with an extra telelens. I was wondering if I am going to buy myself a new one, or an IPhone 15 pro. Haven’t decided yet. But my 400D isn’t going anywhere. I shot many seriously good pictures with it. Which I didn’t even had to edit. Still love It! ❤
Hi i have a 400d aswell and my lcd is already strruggling a bit. Do you know if I can use the video out port to plug into my phone so I can have a better screen?
I'm honestly not sure on that one. Since it doesn't have live view I only really use the screen for basic composition and to check settings.
i have this 400D and macbook air M2 and my camera is just blinking BUSY and EOS utility does not work on latest Sonoma... Some sites says that you need to change PTP to Normal in communications but there is no such options in this camera either? How did you import photos from this camera to your computer? please...
I use a pc and just plug the cf card into an external card reader. I’ve never had any problems this way and based on pretty much every camera I’ve used the transfer is also much faster using a card reader🖖
@@DavidFlowerOfficial Thanks for fast reply! Ok i will try this :)
@@HondaTeamRacingDid it work out? I also have this camera and the MacBook M2 and haven’t tried it yet. It would be truly disappointing if I can’t transfer my photos to my MacBook. 😢
I've been using a 400D for a couple of months now and just thoroughly hate it. I won't deny that it's capable of taking good pictures, but everything about the experience feels bad.
That’s cool, not everyone can like everything. Thanks for watching 🖖
What is your opinion on Sony a200? I am using one with minolta lenses, but I'm thinking of buying a full frame or a mirrorles one. What would you recommend?
I haven’t used the a200, but I own the a350. As someone who owns and has used full frame for over a decade I can honestly say that for the majority of users in the majority of situations, full frame is unnecessary.
If you need a super shallow dof or regularly shoot in very low light, then sure, full frame make sense, but for everything else the smaller sensors are more than good enough. If you’re already in a Sony system you could step into any of the a6000 cameras and with one of the ea5 style adapters, you could still make use of your A mount lenses.
There have been so many great cameras made since the a200 though, that you’re pretty much spoilt for choice.
I’d think about how and what you shoot, then look at lenses you might want and see which system best fits your needs because most cameras from the last decade are pretty good🖖😁
@@DavidFlowerOfficial Thank you so much for the advise. I was really thinking to get the a6000 and now I am fully convinced. Thank you so much!
Does it shoot vedio as well?
No, video in canon DSLRs didn't happen until a little later. I think the 500d was one of the first to shoot full hd along with the 5D mkii🖖
me too david im a start up photo ma
i have a younger brother he's 12 he's intrested in photography and all of that , so i bought this camera ! will it help him maybe find what hes looking for ? anyone please ?
I think this is a great starting point. It’s simple enough to not get lost in the menus and allows full manual control over the settings if needed. Add that to the fact that it’s a small light camera capable of producing great images and it’s great. My youngest son is around the same age as your brother and he’s used this with no problems🖖
I've heard you mentioning your 'Dad' giving you stuff before. I hope 'Dad' isn't just your alibi for filling shelves with old cameras.... And btw... saying you've big hands - how do you cope with those horrible little Olympus things? Have you battery-gripped them? What about all those accidental button pushes? I only ask because i've recently got one and the smallness of it just seems like utter bullshit (although i do like that i can select my focus point using my nose). And don't get me started about its balance when you stick a decent lump of glass on the front. What were they thinking?
Haha, no, I probably mentioned it in the videos when I’ve used the 400d in the past. There are so many cameras at this point I’m pretty sure my good lady wouldn’t even notice another addition 😂
Thanks for watching, mate🖖
Regarding the size of the Olympus (assuming you mean the em1 and em10 mark 2’s) the em10 I use primarily as a waist level shooter when I use it( which isn’t often lately since giving it to my youngest son) so the size is mostly an advantage since I can hold it in one palm and either use the touch screen or the shutter button and my big old nose doesn’t mess with any of the buttons. Either way the em1 mark ii it’s as big as many ff mirrorless and is probably the best camera I’ve ever used in terms of ergonomics.
40D is like the 400D but cooler
Yeah I owned the 40D but as it's basically the same sensor as the 400D and absolutely massive by comparison, I sold it.
Great camera, but an absolute tank 😂