Opeth - Ghost of Perdition (REACTION!!!)
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"You don't dance to this. You levitate to it."
Exactly.
tehevilbunny couldn't agree more.
lol, i got to this comment exactly when he said it.
Opeth...Levitation metal
You nailed it man!
I literally scrolled down to comment exactly that and it was the first comment I saw lmao
95% of Opeth songs are like emotional rollercoasters. That's why they are perfect to me. They feel complete.
Aavi GD amen to that
Deliverance (the song) is awesome, brutal growls, to soft then to the best 3 minutes of head banging ever. Very complete
That's kinda the point
Hahaha. I'm a 7yrs-happily-married 32yr old man that works as a publisher for a proper company and plays death metal in a proper band. Snowflake, my sweaty ass Josh Titty.
I prefer to describe it as telling a whole story of some epic adventure, all the highs and lows
I understand non metal people focus more on the vocals because popular music is mostly vocals based. But in metal it's just another instrument, which comes together with all the other layers.
Well said
You put this nicely: yeah the growl always hits people at first like it's a comedy piece,but it's another tone that adds to it all. Meshuggah for instance- some pop singing over it would not make sense. It's the wrong sound. Same as with Buddhist chanting. Pop singing would sound out of place entirely. I always thought isis were a great psychological key for the cookie monster vocals, their lyrics almost don't matter, the voice is just obviously another tone in the musical mix
I think it was Paul Masvidal from Cynic that said that for him growls are not vocals, but rather another instrument. I tend to agree to an extent.
matthew godding - Aaron Turner is easily one of the best heavy vocalists ever, and while I love his other projects (I'm a lucky duck and live in Vancouver, so I get to see SUMAC pretty regularly), I think Isis represents some of the best use of heavy vocals as a percussive instrument/soundscaping tool
juliengripp ayyyy a fuckin Aaron T fan, that dude is a fuckin' legend. ISIS will forever be my go to band. Perfect vocals, lyricism, concept, instrumentation & execution.
The best part is that they think its 2 vocalists haha that Mikael for ya
Surprised this isn't higher up. Mr. Growl-a-lot and the smooth vocals are the same singer.
BasedGod YD Mikael iz fucking amazing!!!!!!
like Fear Factory
Their keyboard player does the background vocals tho
@@blackwatercat4263 Not in the studio
“You don’t dance to this, you levitate to this.” Yes!!!! Pure gold that comment. It’s been a beautiful journey watching you guys on this strange trip of freedom, in music and metal.
The growls and the clean vocals are the same person.
And Mikael doesn't even think his clean voice is good! I guess we really are our own worst critics.
Whisky and smoking before recording ! Lol love Akerfeldt.
@@amandalynn6663 he's wrong
@@ACTUALLYRICH He also mentioned salty potato chips.
I just saw their first post-quarantine show in Asheville. They’re amazing.
Ghost of Perdition is a prime of example of the excellence of Mike's vocal range. Perfect growls and perfect cleans.
Man, my girlfriend is into indie rock music and totally used to hate screams and growls. Took her to an Opeth concert, she was headbanging harder than the drummer! Seeing growling live changes you, specially when done as well as Opeth does it.
Beautiful.
Eternal Soul Torture I like your profile pic
@@scoobyroo5000 thanks!
One important note I'd like to make is that music that is based on Groove is more or less meant to be played at a party or a club as a background filler to make you move (not always) but music like this song is based on Harmony; Chord progressions, Transitions, Dynamics, etc. Songs that are based on harmonies like this one is more or less meant to be listened to with headphones, sitting down and just taking in the song for what it is. That's an important distinction to make when you're listening to these more "experimental" songs that drag on, it's supposed to make a bigger picture by itself, you don't need to watch a play and have it in the background, the music IS the soundtrack to the play that unfolds in your imagination.
My point exactly.
When he said "if this playing in the background I think this is awesome for that" there is the beginning of an understanding, you can just see it as the OST of your life. (Not a surprise if a lot of metalheads like movies or video games OST music too)
Then with that "the song is very long for the sake of being long" I thought "Who cares ? I never listen an Opeth song out of its album anyway"
Music is not necessarily made to dance, or to fit on radio playlists, or on your personal shuffled playlist...
Metal is not made to make girls dance, and help guys getting laid, it's made for dudes who enjoy listening full albums all day (and going dead drunk to live shows).
"You don't dance to this: you levitate to this."
Best line of the day...subscribed.
Opeth was the first band that I was able to appreciate growl vocals. Since then, I've been wading knee deep in it
For me it was Amon Amarth just recently. I'm mostly a heavy/thrash metal and classic rock guy, but now I'm starting to explore the death metal territory. I already love this song, though, it's amazing.
Same. They were my gateway into appreciating other bands with harsh vocals. I think the contrast of clean vocals helped.
Mikaels growl was on another level with tone and depth. Most guys are just screaming.
For me it was Ne Obliviscaris and Trivium, which got me used to bands like Avatar, Gojira and Opeth. I only recently started listening to Slipknot.
For me it was this very song, the most brutal I'd get into would be vocals from Corey Taylor hahaha
Artist = Opeth
Genre = Opeth
Yup lol
Listen to the faceless.
they're just simply PROGRESSIVE music, come on
Do not stop what your doing boys! Your channel is gold!!
Props. As an Opeth fan, that's exactly the kind of reaction I'd expect from an honest objective first listen. Each song is like a mini opera and can be a bit much at times. Check out Mastodon "Oblivion." They have 3 vocalists and the song (whole album, really) has this cool kind of classic rock vibe mixed with modern riffs... and no guttural vocals! Also, I know you're gonna jump back on some Gojira. "L'Enfant Sauvage" Even if you can't show us the official music video, you should check it out for yourselves. Dark, heavy, fast, rad. They will not disappoint.
>They have 3 vocalists
Uh, what? Mikael is the only vocalist, some other band members do occasional backing vocals and nothing more.
Alex Under think he was talking about Mastodon dude
"new growl metal"? This type of growling has been around in metal for years lol. Opeth have been doing this shit since the mid 90s.
Same shit.
So much YES. Mastodon "Oblivion."
Man, I remember when I first got into the growling vocals. It took a long time, but the best way for me to describe it is, and I hope this makes sense, try thinking about it like it's just another instrument meant to accompany the piece. It's meant to set that darker, fiercer, and harsher tone in a way that standard singing just can't. At least that's the way that made it a lot easier for me to get into it. Anyway, another great reaction guys!
I only recently got into the more growling lyrics within the past year. Granted, I was already familiar with them through 80's bands like Possessed, Cyclone, Slayer, etc.. but I had not transitioned to the harsher growls until I stopped trying to process the gutterals as a sung lyric and instead processed them as an additional played instrument. Once the 'feel' of the song has been defined, then I can go back and learn the lyrics within the gutteral to better appreciate the mix. :)
Me too man, the first growl I really can get into was trivium and lamb of god
In flames and children of Bodom were gateways to screams and growls. Those are who I suggest to first timers.
I got into the screaming, growling when I started realising what it is and how difficult it is to make those growls. It's the best way to release anger and sadness in my opinion, but also a way to show a dark, huge sound that normal singing cannot do. It's such a great asset to have if you're a metal vocalist in my opinion. It took me maybe a year of my girlfriend playing a lot of metalcore, death core, death metal, and progressive metal for me to actually appreciate the growls and screams.
This is the greatest progressive metal song ever made. All the Vocals (growling and clean) are sang by the same person, Opeth's frontman Lars Mikael Åkerfeldt who play's also guitar, bass, piano, and writes the songs. He is, without a doubt, one of the greatest musicians of our time.
Facts my man
I would say blackwater park is the absolute best prog metal song ever made
Nah the greatest prog song ever made is Starless by King Crimson. Mikael himself will tell you something like this.
Achieved Divinity maybe objectively, but for extremly many, blackwater park is subjectively one of the best songs of all time, and also opeth is one of the best prog metal bands of all time.. Objectively its probably the best prog METAL band of all time, as dream theater really isn’t on their level in having actually made only good songs that all are a great listen
No, it's not.
On another note though you guys hands down make the best reaction videos, and very intellectually break down and analyze each song and the lyrics. You compliment each other's thoughts very well
Yo. Straight up, Opeth is one of my all time favorite bands. They are unbelievable as a live band. This reaction was great, made me laugh a lot. Your interpretations are spot on and I have close friends who wouldn't even open their minds to a band like Opeth. Entertaining as always. Peace.
YES! Finally! You guys hit the nail on the head with the interpretation pretty much. The song is meant to have acts because every song in that album is a part of a larger story.
The emotional roller coaster you felt is there musically because those are the emotions that the main character is feeling, the highs and lows; that's' kind of the point of old(ish) Opeth, and why they're amazing! Their newest stuff is more palatable for most listeners, shorter songs, no growling, less transitions, etc.
Exactly this.
I'm a black dude who owns this album on vinyl, so I really enjoyed watching this! Brave attempt guys. Opeth Own.
BLACKMYRE and I a white person also enjoyed this
0o0o0o Vynil, you must be cool
And your skin colour matters because..
@@jerby1355 Context is lost on you, i guess. Smh!
@@jhamilton1007 go ahead what's the context
Opeth is one of the most challenging bands to get into. I'm really glad you guys gave them a fair shot!
Their music is definitely not for everyone, and they really challenge your understanding of what a rock music song can be...most of their songs are over the ten minute mark (at least during their metal era).
Keep it up!
Opeth isn't a band you can just listen to once and react fairly to. Opeth is art, it's creativity, it's worth the time it takes to really get into it.
Well said, most great art requires some time/effort to appreciate. Opeth are not my favorites, but they're a regular listen.
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What I like about you guys is how you go really in depth and don't just stare at the video, blank-faced like most other reactors. You also don't just kiss the videos ass to get positive reception from your fans, you give your honest thoughts unlike most other reactors.
One does not simply listen to Ghost Of Perdition in pieces. 😂
Well they simply did it
@@vincent-ow8ss THEY CANNOT, IT'S ILLEGAL, SOMEBODY GO TO GET THEM
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I appreciate that you guys straight up and give your real opinions on the song. I swear i have seen a trend lately that some dudes just overeact all over a metal song and act like they just *snap* instant metalhead. There're no bullshits here, very good job.
+1. This means that you can tell when they genuinely like a song. Much better than pretending you like it just to please metal heads. Just giving it a go is good!
I think he hits the nail on the head with feeling it's theatrical. Most progressive metal is like that so they're getting it I think.
They pause every two minutes, there's no way in hell they can make anything close to an educated understanding of any form of music.
Phalanxia Theroan smh, it's called editing. They can't show them listening to the entire song due to copyright laws. Lol
I was never into reaction channels, never understood the purpose of the whole concept before I discovered your channel, love it how you guys embrace unknown territories with absolute honesty and are never afraid to speak out your mind.
Ryan and George keepin it real!
React to Deftones please :)
Thank you sir!
I think the problem is, the majority of people suggesting songs are mega-fans of those bands - and they are suggesting songs THEY like, but not necessarily the best song to expose a newcomer to. People need to suggest stuff that's the most accessible first. I don't think this is Opeth's most accessible. It's easier for me to get a handle on what that is because I'm not a mega-fan of Opeth, but I like some of their stuff.
NuclearWarrior ^^^^This
Yes, They haven't even done Metallica One yet.
I get it, but, I think it is because this song shows what Opeth is. They would obviously like more something like idk... Sorceress? but it doesn't show what Opeth is about.
That's exactly how I feel when 90% of requesters suggest Cafo as their first Animals as Leaders song. I'd much rather work them in with something with a pretty straight groove like Ka$cade, Ectogenesis, The Woven Web, or Inner Assassins first.
Spot on! Mega Fans, take note!
An art understood by everyone would't be an art at all.
Big like!
Of course it was said by someone with a tool account pic lol
yee yee bet me too it lol
100%
Well said and nice profile picture
Here is the problem with giving a first impression of a progressive type of song - there is no way it can "click" in your brain the first time. I don't LOVE hardly any progessive metal song the very first time I hear it. Instead the song has to sink in time after time, intil finally it "clicks" and makes perfect sense to your brain. Here is the beauty of it though. Once that happens you don't get sick of the song like you do normal/cookie cutter songs. That's why I can put on the Blackwater Park album any time and not be sick of it.
So cool that you guys listened to this and to be honest I'm shocked you didn't hate it the first time hearing it!
Great stuff guys, I discovered you today and have been going through your metal reviews. At first I thought maybe you just pretended to like everything (I watched Master of Puppets and One first) but I've quickly realized that these are your honest reactions, I just happened to start with songs that you truly were blown away with - and rightfully so. :)
Perfect response man, I hope they will read it in this sea of comments :P Progressive music takes time to digest. Patience is the key, but damn does it feel good when it all make sens :O !
this should be at the top
I loved hardly ghost of perdition first time I've listened. It was the first Opeth song I've listened to. I still loving Opeth, and ghost of perdition is my favorite song.
So true
This song clicked with me on the first try. It's the song that got me into the band.
Opeth - Windowpane!
Jake Purdy YES
God please do this one
I was going to suggest this song or Bleak.
I have yet to meet one single person that does not like this song. Even my mom and the mexicans at my job like it. It's literally a song that not only everyone can feel comfortable listening too, but liking it also.
Hi.I really appreciate your objective opinion.I have never been a fan o death metal and still not.But what Opeth has done to their own fans after "Damnation" album it was shoooock!!!!!After this They are more progressive than ever.No more "growling".💚
Opeth is going to be super hard for most people to get into. If you are a a casual Metalhead, or just listening and experimenting like these guys, you won't get the brutality one second then the acoustic and clean singing the next. Opeth is brilliant, but an acquired taste
BTW, I fucking love Opeth. They are on top of the game for music writing and skill in playing instruments.
I used to enjoy screaming vocals, although it was metalcore bands I no longer enjoy. I wish I liked them since deaths instrumental work is beyond amazing.
Well said. Very aquired. My favorite.
Gonna challenge you there. Opeth has such strong songwriting that more people can get into them as opposed to most extreme music. The dynamics, shading and overall musicality bring in more people who normally wouldn't listen to extreme music. I've been following them since the second record, and I remember when Blackwater Park came out, I was in university for music and showed it to some of my professors...they were all blown away...and remarked how a band like that shouldn't be able to do what they do.
JWolf013 in all honesty, in my opinion, Opeth lays these bands to waste. The musicianship is top shelf, with a ton of emotion as well. To me, some of the best songwriting in decades...they still haven't put out a bad one. I got hooked from the second album (not easy, all their albums were expensive imports at the time) and loved them ever since. You always find something new as you revisit each album. Cheers from Canada
Unless it's their last two-three albums. While not horrible albums, they're nowhere close to the older albums. The newer albums are more so "Anyone can listen to these" types of songs.
I heard of Opeth when I was still in high school, but I never gave them a chance. I was too new into metal to appreciate growl-vocals, so I wrote them off.
But (having already been subscribed to you because of your rap videos) when you posted this video, many years ago - but still much later than my high school years, I fell in love with the band.
It's especially ironic, since you guys didn't really like this song.
Now, many years later, they're - by far - my favorite band of all time, and I've seen them multiple times, and I own many T-shirts.
Thanks, fellas.
What I love about your videos is that you guys make me think about it from an outsiders perspective. I already knew and loved opeth, so the style and up and down was "normal to me. This album is a sort of concept album and if you two are feeling adventurous check out the whole album. I think of it more like watching a movie, characters, action, and emotions. The up and down feels less forced and more like story telling. Could be a brand new experience. As for the growling vocals, try to think of it more like another instrument, casting shadows and light on the traditional instrumentation. The vocals are more moody and powerful when framed this way. Keep trying new stuff, tho. Peace.
random danny I think that they would probably like something from blackwater park better. The harvest has softer vocals throughout and more of a traditional verse/chorus/verse/chorus type of writing format. I also think that something like the drapery falls that starts with somewhat softer and transitions into heavier riffs and vocals in a more linear way may be more suitable to their taste.
Mike Felty I think they would really enjoy the song sorceress, the transitions fill more smooth and less random parts just thrown together.
"You don't dance to this, you levitate to this." I fucking died LMAO!
George and Ryan, as a listener of Prog Rock/Metal for 40 years, these songs need to be heard a few times to REALLY get into. The first listen is almost always more rough because the changes in Prog songs are always numerous and can seem like they ruin the "flow" of the song, but when you really KNOW the song and come to expect the changes, the song (if written well) will flow beautifully and "make sense". One of the best earlier examples are songs like "Roundabout" by Yes and "2112" by Rush.
Ghost Reveries for me is a great listen all the way thru. Weird.... it really relaxes me... go figure.
Agreed! This is kinda true for metal in general. Either the song structure or the instrumentation or both are so complex that you can't pick up everything at the same time
Great point in terms of learning and expecting the changes.
This is pretty spot on, you guys didn't really enjoy Dream Theater and this is partly why. Some of these songs take dozens of listens to digest
That's true.
Opeth is on a whole different level than so many. I love them soooooo much.
Great video again guys. One thing you probably have come to realize is unlike pop/r&B/rap, some of the songs you have reviewed are not intended to be listened to in isolation. Most Opeth songs fall into this category. I only listen to them if I have time for the whole album. These guys write some beautiful and at the same time brutal music.
David Wagner The most brutalful band there is
Especially the My Arms Your Hearse album for example. The title of each song is actually taken from the last words in the lyrics from the previous song.
Been watching you dudes for a while now.
Amazing!
Lateralus-Tool
Cemetery Gates- Pantera
Kyle Wyzenski yes!! Cemetery Gates!! Great shout
No, and yes.
Kyle Wyzenski Totally agree they should do Lateralus ... BUT while watching the video that shows how TOOL incorporates the Fibonacci Sequence into the song.
The Pot 👌🏻
I love Cemetery Gates, but I think The Becoming would be even better
YAAAAASSS. FINALLY! Thanks for giving them a try, guys. Opeth is forever my fav \m/
Also, “You don’t dance to this. You levitate to this.” 😂 Dead.
Reverie/Harlequin Forest, off of the same album, is one of my favorites. This is one of my top favorite Opeth albums. They are just too good. They evolve with their sound as well, making them one of those bands that I can never get tired of.
Glad to see you guys finally did this one. Opeth and most progressive metal in general are a bit of an acquired taste though. Maybe people should stop requesting these 10 minute epics for now and maybe stick to some 3-5 minute metal tunes.
As much as I enjoy prog metal I do understand your point, I took me some time before i started appreciating those long ass songs and l those mood changes, and actually starting listening full albums instead of just one song. So I guess the guys should stick with songs more friendly with the single format.
I agree. Long songs aren’t usually the best for reaction vids.
Thing is Opeth is one of those bands that pulls fans from many multiple genres of music. I find them to be extremely accessible to most people.
Yup. People request WAY too many long songs, deep cuts, and even live versions (WTF?). I just want to slap everyone who keeps recommending Iron Maiden's Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner. That is a terrible song to introduce the band by. Lost in Vegas doesn't live and breath metal like most of us fans, but that's lost on most people - especially the ones who keep recommending death metal.
Agreed - though the song that got me into opeth was Deliverance, haha. It's so hard to find one of Opeth's heavier songs that's under 8 minutes - there are a few, but most are definitely longer epics. Interesting they liked Ne Obliviscaris and not so much on Opeth given they are so influenced by them, but to each their own :)
man you guy are the best ...best regards from croatia
croatian general Kako je, komšo? 👋
dje ste ljudi.
cijela regija gleda u 2 crna iz Vegasa, to je internet
Crnci imaju zesce reakcije obozavam samo njih da gledam ovi ostali smaraju
Da, slažem se. Jedini zanimljiv "reaction" kanal ovde. Oduševljen sam njima.
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Listening to Opeth (and prog metal in general most of the time) is a different type of listening than you regularly do for music. Usually you just want to enjoy the music you listen to, grooving along. With this type of music listening becomes more of an activity in itself. It's almost like you're studying, trying to constantly wrap your head around what crazy transition they did this time and the epic lyricism. You're watching a play unfold with different movements etc. It's not necessarily made to headbang to. I also have to tell you that this is the first song of the album Ghost Reveries, a concept album with an overarching story throughout it (except for the final song), so in that sense it's even more like a play. A story is being told. I'm often in my head so this is great music for me, but if you prefer to groove and just enjoy the music this is probably not for you. Unless, like you said, it's a very specific situation. If you feel like cracking your head open and you're up for a challenging listen, prog metal is the way to go (listen to the rest of the album!).
Now that you listened to Opeth, Dream Theater and Tool, you have a solid grasp of what the genre is about. I like to call those three bands the three "cornerstones of prog metal". Opeth for the extreme metal with soft passages thrown in (where NeO got their sound from!), Dream Theater for the "regular" metal sound with flashy solos and Tool (even though they're not actually metal) for the rhythmic and emotionally intense aspects of the music. Most modern prog bands have (at least) one of these three bands as one of their main influences. They're HUGE in the prog metal scene. There are other prog bands with big influences like Meshuggah (djent movement started with them), Animals as Leaders (instrumental prog), Between the Buried and Me (prog metalcore with even more transitions than Dream Theater), Porcupine Tree (prog rock/metal borderline) and Mastodon (sludge/stoner prog), but the three I mentioned before are probably the biggest of the bunch with the most influences.
Now you probably just want to rock out (and not think too much! Opeth can take their toll lol). I HIGHLY suggest you listen to some power metal now, which is like the middle ground between Maiden and Metallica/Megadeth. Try [Iced Earth - Burnt Offerings] or [Crimson Glory - Eternal Worlds] (Red Sharks is also a great pick!). I'd also like to suggest Symphony X, but that's more prog power a la Dream Theater (less wank though and more headbanging) so I'll hold that off for now.
Love your channel guys. Keep rocking!
As much as I love Prog and Avant-Garde rock and metal, I think that expecting a positive reaction from an "outsider" to the style of music is just unrealistic - the musicians and fans of Prog and Avant-Garde kind of pride themselves on how alien their music is compared to popular music - in effect, Prog and Avant-Garde can be thought of as running on on how deliberately off-putting and jarring the music can be to casual listeners, and on seeing and bringing out the beauty in things that don't fit into the popular music mold.
Most people are well used to more popular forms of music, with an ear tuned toward it, and it takes a little while to develop a musical palate tuned toward the sort of discordant chords, strange rhythmic patterns, something other than the usual pop-music verse-chorus song structure found in Prog or Avant-Garde. Nobody can expect someone used to popular music to embrace a rather dramatically anti-popular form of music overnight.
That's not to say that George and Ryan shouldn't keep trying these Prog metal songs, I remember those moments when the weird stuff that bands like Celtic Frost or Voivod were doing finally "clicked", and I stopped thinking "that sounds like noise", and started thinking "wow, they actually used noise as music, and made it work - how did they do that?"
I also think it's fair to say that there are a fair number of Prog and Avant-Garde emperors who aren't wearing any clothing - I appreciate the rare outside voice that's willing to say "I'm perfectly happy to give this a chance, but I really don't think that this band is wearing clothes, and someone's pulling our leg!" I think that sort of honesty can only be expected from someone who's not familiar with this sort of music, or someone who has really been listening to it a long time, and thoroughly understands musical theory and rules and how and when to bend or break them, and so on... for the rest of us, I think it can sometimes be hard to tell the difference between genuine brilliance, and a really shiny shovel-full of B.S.....
Prog Metal Nerd they need some blind guardian on their life
Symphony X!
they need fucking rhapsody/blind guardian
I listen to prog metal and I never liked most of the bands you listed. And it's not like I didn't give them a chance. Bands like Opeth, Dream Theater, Mastodon... they have good ideas, but I feel as if they can't properly combine them into songs. They are also in a way do what's expected from prog metal, I'm not surprised by their music, from avant-garde and prog stuff, I want music that makes me wonder how did they even begin composing something like that. Compositions that are alien and weird. And also I agree with Ryan and George about transitions and song length. The transitions sound forced, and the songs feel as if they are really long for the sake of being long. There are bands out there with more transitions and bands with longer songs, but they make it work. Stuff like Opeth and Dream Theater, when I listen to them I just hear a mishmash of cool ideas and not so cool ideas in stitched together in whatever way.
Burden by Opeth is one of the most incredible songs I've ever heard. It's just a rock ballad with no screaming. So you guys could try that if you want.
Agreed
Me too
Burden was the song that got me into Opeth and I gradually started to enjoy a lot of their older, more intense songs. 'Bleak' is my favourite song by them.
Opeth is pretty heavy listening and I definitely wouldn't recommend them to beginners. I've requested this song before and I'm going to keep doing it, Cirice by Ghost.
"Ritual" or "Secular Haze".
This song actually got me into Metal
@@sebastianungerer9566 me too. listened to it so many times.
too bad they did not use head phones for this.
Respect the true and honest oppinion.
Yeah but that meh at the end was not necessary :(
If it's what they felt, yes it was. We're talking honest reaction after all.
yeah you're right
These guys just have a strong hip-hop background and there are only two things in music they care about: groove and lyrics. Prog metal has got so much more but they just can't break into to it.
This is my first time hearing Opeth as well, after years of hearing they hype over them. I agree - I respect and appreciate the honest opinions here! :)
I do feel a bit bad that we're leaving these poor fellows to try to figure out lyrics written by foreign bands in garbled English - one of the exciting things I discovered about international metal bands is that there is some amazing music there, and some fascinating influences from different cultures that put a whole new spin on the basic Metal formula, but about half the time, the lyrics are just impenetrable at best, as seen with Brazil's Sepultura a couple weeks ago! :D
I think a lot of us just tune the lyrics out and listen for the music, with the death growls and other vocals taking on a percussive, rhythmic, or melodic element appreciated separately from the lyrics themselves....
Thanks for doing a reaction my my favorite band ever!! Love you guys
Karun Arjun Potty i bet u wont be lovin as much as i do :)
Great band, Mr. Potty. Lol
Shun Jags lol
No one warned them that Opeth have longer intros than some have songs?
:')
Thanks for listening to this.
1. This is headphone music. This is something not something to casually listen to.
2. It’s not something you’re gonna get the first time. It’s a concept album, so the entire album has an underlying story. So the changes are really setting the vibe as to what is occurring in the story (like a play soundtrack... literally...good looks).
3. I’ve always thought (even though I’m a huge fan) that Opeth would stick around on certain parts too long. As musician, I’ve always noticed that they “felt” they had to do each part 4 complete times, which can drag shit out unnecessarily for what seems like an eternity. Especially when it’s an 8-bar riff as-is. I think this was more of a crutch of Mikael’s writing than anything. However, parts like the acoustic breaks really suit well for the longer arrangements.
4. This is literally the band that got me into dirty vocals. The way they contrast/compliment the musicality of the band really play on your ear differently than other groups do. It’s just intensity. It’s not anger or aggression or a crutch... it’s used intentionally. Because he clearly has an amazing voice.
The next track I highly recommend you check out by them is Windowpane, from Damnation. No growling, no distorted guitars. Completely clean.
Zeta9966 or maybe something like Porcelain Heart. It has some good distortion with just clean vocals.
Ben Kellam eh. Doesn’t go anywhere at all. It’s a pretty boring song.
not a huge opeth fan, but heir apparent is my favourite
Skip The Soliloquist been listening since Blackwater Park 😁
Opeth definitely grows on you. When I first listened to them i thought they were cool, it took years for them to truly grow on me and become pretty much the greatest band ever. This is a great song, but not their best.
Nice avatar, my dude :P
what about mine, :-)
This is one of my favorites actually. But yeah it took years for them to really grow on me. Now they are in my top 10
You've just listened to the best growl in business.
holierthan amen
Apart from Devin Townsend on Strapping Young Lad's "Home Nucleonics".
Akerfeldt was great, but Dan Swano is better if you ask me, just listen to Divinity from the album The Northern Sanctuary
if you're like 15, yeah
XD
The more you hear this song, the better it becomes. Thought it was so weird at first, but now it's freakin' awesome!
Alot of opeth is like that for me , definitely gets better with age
Agreed , I listen to it daily , blows my mind more and more
💯 i think Metallica were the same for me but opeth are on a different level with their songwriting. Both bands take you on a journey with every song which is why it gets better with every listen
I'd love to see you guys do some more Pantera sometime, especially Cemetery Gates and/or Cowboys from Hell.
Keep up the great content!
I always hated reaction videos until I found your channel, but I love what you guys are doing. You’ve opened me up to different genres of music that I refused to give a chance previously. Keep at it fellas. A while back you all mentioned that you’d like to listen to a heavy song with clean vocals - I think you all should listen to Deftones - Diamond Eyes or You’ve seen the Butcher, or Periphery - Stranger Things.
If they do periphery they should do the bad thing
Diamond Eyes!
Diamond eyes is awesome!!!
> "screamo" sound
Triggered
Yup
There is a lot of great screamo that isn't swipy colored hair. Check out Usurp Synapse and In/Humanity.
HAH!
@@DuckoftheDraw Exactly, and the thing is what those people call "Screamo" isn't even actual Screamo. That just makes it worse.
Porcupine tree- arriving somewhere but not here......must give it a listen
Dude, Opeth is an impossible band to digest as a first listen. I'm a die hard metal fan, but I made the mistake years ago to just casually try and get into them and I was like "nope". This kind of progressive music needs like a predisposition. It's not something you necessarily headbang to, but listen to when you're in the right mindset, which is kind of meditative, chill (the irony) and like, focused, like you're in the mood to fly with a song, not party to it. I make no sense. For example, I paint, so I like to listen to this because it just kind of goes with that flow state of being focused, so you fly with the song. It's the trippiest feeling. Like being high without drugs. But takes sooooo long to "get" it. The mind just gets hooked and desires to go back to it. It's worth it in the end! You get used to it and enjoy it just as much as any other popular song. It's the weirdest thing.
ANYWAY.
GUYYYSSSSSS you know what I'm gonna say! Epica - The Holographic Principle or Kingdom of Heaven PART 1. If you think you need the right thing to get into metal growling (not screamo haha), check these songs out! Growling, operatic vocals, pop vocals, big ass choirs, Kingdom of Heaven even has some freakin tibetan throat singing. Like seriously, I ASSURE you, you haven't listened to this kind of metal yet.
I have many other suggestions but goddamnit, I won't give up until you react to them!
Also omg 182K!!! Insane!! Congrats!! ♥
ThatOnePerson
This 100%. I didnt get into Periphery, Meshuggah, and Gojira until this year because of my original distaste for heavy vocals. My transition started a long time ago. My first albums were Breaking Benjamin and As I Lay Dying, but I never listened to AILD's songs that were strictly screaming. I needed the conflict of heavy verses and the resulution of clean, powerful, and soaring refrains. Eventually, I began to enjoy the brutality. That was about 8 years ago. I tried listening to other bands in heavier forms of metal, but couldnt do it as the vocals were too much for me. This past year was my first experience with the brutality and complexity with prog metal. And I have never been happier.
You kidding? I came in to these guys early in their career, and I got into them just fine. I'm talking before Blackwater Park. The Ghost Reveries album is an evolution of that style, at least before Michael Akerfelt mostly abandoned the heavier vocals when moving into Heritage and Sorcereress.
A metalhead I knew sent me Opeth as a primer into metal, and sent me Master's Apprentices and Godhead's Lament as the first two songs to hear. Opeth got me into metal. I had a progressive rock background, and I got DEEP into Opeth once I first heard those songs.
Opeth hard to digest? I find hard to digest jazz, and some classical pieces, even some kinds of concrete music, but Opeth has a lot of good songs that are low entry to the metal world
Jesus Christ. Congrats to all of you guys with mighty brains and exquisite tastes. This however, is not the reality for the majority of people, especially the ones who didn't grow up with metal, so consider yourself special snowflakes ♥
metallica - one
pantera - domination (live moscow '91 must watch vid with it tho!)
lamb of god - laid to rest
great reaction and yes the growls and the clean vocals are the same people!
I had a feeling when you guys finally got to this song that you would respect it but wouldn't totally be your taste. I still love that you gave this an open minded shot (free thinkers after all), and I have more respect for ya than ever. For a newer shot of prog metal I recommend "The Last Baron" from Mastodon, or even their song "Blood and Thunder" which is also amazing. Also, I would recommend you check out Periphery starting with their song "Scarlet" and if you like that try out some more. That's all I will ramble about for now. Keep up the excellent work. #freethinkers
YES! I would LOVE to see them try out some Periphery. I think they might really dig the more melodic stuff.
The Last Baron is my favourite song from Crack the Skye, but I'm worried that it might be too proggy for them still, maybe something slightly less proggy from Mastodon though.
Periphery doesn't have a song called Crimson. I think you're thinking of Scarlet.
Also, if you're gonna suggest they do Periphery, you'll need to make sure they start with a song that grooves so they're more likely to get into it. I'd recommend Icarus Lives, 22 Faces, or Pale Aura.
If We're going with Periphery, they actually have to start with "Have a Blast". The riifs are addicting.
Megalodon would be a great choice....and George is gonna love Brann's drumming
The first time I saw Opeth it was when they were touring this album. I went with a close friend of mine and they opened with this song. About half way through the song we looked at each other and we both had tears gushing out of our eyes. Opeth are gods among men.
I LOVE Opeth, and can listen to them at any time, in any setting!(yeah, I am a life long metal head) But I can also understand your perspective of them, and appreciate the honest reaction. Super long songs are very common for them, and thinking of some of them as separate acts is a great call out.
What I can't put into words is how proud/impressed I am that you boys took the time to edit and then upload this review. Sooooo happy you took the time. I don't think you'll "like" it next week or next year. But someday...;)
The first time i listened to Opeth i thought they were boring and that it was just not for me, 3 years later Opeth is my favorite band and Ghost Of Perdition is definately one of my favorite songs by them. For me it has always been that the best music takes time to understand, so I think after you really know every second of this song well your gonna love it. And also the growling in Opeth´s music is some of the best out there, there are not many singers who can make that awesome evil sounding growling like Mikael, and that mixed with his beautiful cleans just make Opeth the perfect band for me.
Haha, it did not take 3 years for me to like them, i liked Opeth after my 3rd or 4th listen and the only reason I kept on listening was because i heard from everyone how good they were. And after everytime i listened to them i liked them a little more and then eventually I fell in love with their music.
No brainwashing here, they're just such a good band that takes a second to understand as they are pretty different, takes a while to get into that groove. Also, one of my favorite bands I need to listen to more. I completely played out the entire discography, minus the last few albums I didn't much care for as much but I will be getting back into them.
hahaha that is exactly the path I have taken with Opeth. At first I was not impressed now I love them :D
He lost me when he concluded he won't listen to the song just for the sake of it: This is basically what I do with that one. Just click, kick back, and listen. A masterpiece, a symphony, that has to be appreciated on its own.
Opeth write complicated music and it takes a long time to fully appreciate it. At least it took me a long time. Music can be art, but not all music is art. I think Opeth are artists.
The Dark Power they don't really like the screaming
No, it's an acquired taste I'd say! ;)
I think they'd like anything from Heritage on up a little better, but I know a few Opeth fans that gave up once they lost the metal and went straight prog. Personally, I like it all, depending on the day or mood.
Yeah the more recent albums or Damnation would be a good 'gateway drug' before getting them on to the hard stuff ;) I originally heard Morningrise and it took me a long time to fully appreciate what they were doing. I don't mind the more recent prog stuff although I do prefer the heavier stuff. It all blends together just fine if you put in on random.
I had that exact problem with Obscura by Gorguts. That took me a good three listens to and then it clicked. Very highly complex.
Opeth takes years to appreciate and I feel it’s more easily appreciated as a musician.
I'm sorry but I love Opeth as much as any old head but I'd never suggest them to someone still new to the metal scene lol
Porcupine Tree - Anesthetize
and Steven Wilson Routine
YES
The Raven that Refused to Sing
Opeth, one of the greatest bands that you must acquire a taste for. Just thinking of the growling/scream as the Devil's Octave. It'll change your perspective. Awesome for ya'll keeping it real! Expected nothing less. Respect.
Type O Negative - Christian Woman
The full version, not the cut down VEVO version
they used to stop shows and Pete would say "we don't condone violence. Wee DEMAND VIOLENCE"
"Trains" - Porcupine Tree
Please?!?
I believe they already did that, but I could be mistaken.
Lexcoaster i just did a quick youtube search for Lost in Vegas + Porcupine Tree and got nothing. I try to keep up with their videos, but I'd remember if they reacted to Porcupine Tree.
I second this.
Weebu did Trains. Different brotha
Sake now I have to listen to PT
One of the best bands ever
Rainbow - Stargazer!!!! Dio's finest performance! BTW, love the honesty and open mindedness!
Never thought I'd say this but, I never clicked on a video so fast. BOOM! Nice job guys. One of my favorite bands of all time. \,,/
Opeth and Progressive Metal in general requires many listens before you are fully able to appreciate it. You guys could check some non-Extreme Metal.Symphonic Metal(Nightwish - Ghost Love Score),Power Metal(Helloween - Future World) and Folk Metal(Eluveitie - The Call of the Mountains). Thank you guys for your awesome channel and un-biased open reactions ! Keep it up !
Demonkiller123 I totally agree! I'm a big Opeth fan but I understand and accept Ryan and George's opinion. And you're right on about Nightwish, Helloween, and Eluveitie. I would also suggest songs from Blind Guardian, Sonata Arctica, Nevermore, Sabaton, Redemption, Fates Warning, Queensryche, even "Pull Me Under" from Dream Theater before going into the more growl vocals and many transitions heavy part of metal. That takes a while before you develop a taste for it.
Exactly David. A lot of Metalheads may have done a mistake I think,when they threw Extreme Metal on them,even while they liked some of it and were super open minded,you could see that they did not like it that much.Apart from Gojira or Ne Obliviscaris that is. I get it...you wanna see them react to your favourite band or what,but you need to remember that they have not listened to Metal that much,especially to Extreme Metal,their hearing of Metal is not yet that advanced,they may not get a lot of stuff that is going on,the proper unique feeling to it... It takes a lot of time to appreciate Extreme Metal and the first vital step is to firstly listen to a lot of non-Extreme Metal,cause there you get this sensitive feeling for Metal,where you will be able to distinguish and appreciate a lot of hidden stuff while listening to it.
Yes! Ghost Love Score live at Wacken
Demonkiller123 So on point. That was a very big mistake with those recommendations. If they couldn't really handle Slayer and the vocals from Sepultura, I doubt they would be pleased with Opeth. And you're totally right, they definitely need to listen to more non-extreme metal before trying out Opeth again or another extreme metal band. I think NWOBHM as well as power, folk and symphonic metal would be more up their alley for now. I'll admit, I wanted them to try Opeth after their reaction to NeO, but I hoped they would choose a more straightforward Opeth song like Bleak or Harvest from the Blackwater Park album or a song from their Damnation album; something with zero to little transitions and not as much growling. I think the high demand for GoP as they said in the video raised their expectations so much, and that also may have been a factor to why they were just meh about it.
Ghost Love Score live Buenos Aires 2012. That performance is sublime
There is so much King Crimson influence in Opeth's music it's ridiculous. It's not the only influence obviously. There's Rush influence as well (I remember being at their show here in Vancouver and they asked if the audience were Rush fans) among many others. These guys are genius. They have to be seen live.
Thanks for finally doing my favorite band Opeth!! You guys are great!! Keep it up!
This is a pretty normal reaction, Opeth is a very unique band and it takes time to digest their music. I know because I reacted the same way you guys did
This is fantastic. I'm a huge fan of this song but never really understood the amount of time it took me to appreciate this level of metal until you guys laid it out like this. Thank you for that.
I would have suggested Harlequinn Forest for the entry into Opeth
Agreed
Yes!
Yeah, a bit more pallettable for a first-timer.
No way!!! YOU DID IT!!!! I should probably watch the video before I comment... but I got so excited lol
Guys, Opeth takes time. But the time pays off. It's hard to believe that the growls and the clean singing come out of the same guy. And it's mind boggling that so many musical ideas go into one song. Other bands would make 4 or 5 songs out of the different ideas. But Mikael Akerfeldt (the singer, main song writer, guitar) is in my mind the Mozart of metal. His genius becomes clearer with more listening time. And on that note, if you decide to give them another try, I'd recommend Bleak. The song again covers a lot of ground, but it's less proggy and contains some great clean vocals. Keep doing what you're doing. Love the channel!
Lotus Eater would be a cool recommendation too.
Dude, clean vocals in Bleak is not Mikael's but Steve Wilson's vocals. I'd recommend them songs without any scream and stuff like songs from Sorceress or Damnation albums or Fair Judgement from Deliverance
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Dennis Koval Yes, I know it's Steven Wilson, but I didn't figure that would be relevant to the guy's reaction. It just works as a great clean offset to the rest of the song. But yes, there's plenty of clean stuff, and Fair Judgement is a good call.
Dennis Koval But Michael is capable of going growling or clean. He's done it in studio and on stage.
Black Sabbath - Into The Void
Opeth are like in God level. nobody can reach them.. i dont even know what to say
Hit the nail on the head guys! The band themselves say that they tend to write their material in more of a classical style calling their songs movements. So to say they are theatrical is on the money and the intended outcome.
Lee Brennan So the band uses the movement analogy? That's interesting, that's how I described it when I first started listening to them.
Michael Robertson well that's what I read in an interview with them some time ago. It's an interesting idea actually and you could argue that this tracks transitions are just an amplified example of what songs such as holy wars and master of puppets do by implementing a step change to change mood. The difference with opeth is that, in my opinion a great deal of thought about taking the listener on a journey and it's more about the journey than the groove..... So to speak. Sometimes there's more to listening and appreciating a piece of music than just banging ya head 😉. Metal is unique in the fact that it is so diverse and bridges such a musical chasm
Respect the honesty guys!
Opeth = art
If this is too harsh, try Windowpane. It's soooo good :D
Fuck yeah
Whole album is full of gems
Metallica-Blackened
Nothing better than Mikael's voice. Be it growling or the mellow.
Do listen to deliverance and hope leaves
deliverance is probably one of my favorite opeth songs.
They're gonna pause it and ruin it anyway.
oh yes i love his voice
That's why I LOVE Still Life! Such a good balance of heavy and clean
Not really sure if peter tägtgren isn't better.
Metallica - One
It's just such a layered, musically intricate song, and the story in it is amazing.
I concur...You're next reaction should be One by Metallica or the song Dystopia by Megadeth
They've done three Metallica already, I doubt the do another, but if they do I hope it's One as well. Just an excellent song.
The best part about their lead guitarist/singer is that its all one guy. He does the growling, singing, and plays lead guitar simultaneously. Pretty talented dude. Ive seen them live a few times and theyre just as good as their studio albums
>Screamo
triggered
Opeth kicks anything screamo in the dick.
I silently poured a bit of liquor for the metal fans that blew an artery at that.
i actually just cringed haha
John McLellan Hahahahaha
Ha Ha HA! I totally cringed for a sec when they said that. I know they're new though.
It can be really difficult to get into the screaming and growling lyrics. I would recommend more melodic or stoner metal for a better groove. Here are some recommendations:
Mastodon - Oblivion
Clutch - Burning Beard
Dio - Holy Diver
Heavy Glow - Fat Cat
Horn of the Rhino - Speaking in Tongues
Iced Earth - Dante's Inferno
Red Fang - Wires
Sabaton - Night Witches
Shawn James and the Shapeshifters - No Gods
Stoned Jesus - I'm the Mountain
System of a Down - Toxicity
Volbeat - Fallen
For a more country vibe I would recommend Benjamin Tod - Using Again
I hope you enjoy, and I really appreciate how open you guys are to trying new things!
Opeth albums need to be listened to several times to truly appreciate all that's going on.
You guys jumped in the deep end. Keep listening to metallica etc and and after a while, You will start to appreciate heavier music
wojtek1721 I disagree. I think that most bands will have at least one song that serves as a good intro. In the case of Tool, they really should have gone with Sober or Prison Sex. In the case of Dream Theater, they should have gone with Pull Me Under.
While in both cases, the songs are by no means the best or most mind-blowing, they serve their purpose.
freakshopusa You are right ghost of perdition is showcasing a lot of opeth's style and it's one of their Best, im just saying that they would like this song more if they were used to growls and it is not an easy task so if I could give an advice that would be slowly going heavier and heavier with music
btw English is not my first language plz dont flame :)
wojtek1721 no flames whatsoever! All nonnative speakers have my utmost respect as your English is so much better than my attempt at your language.
That aside, you make a valid point on vocal styles, but that is just one component of music and these reactions show that these gentlemen are truly open-minded enough to appreciate each component in isolation.
My argument is that if the songs they react to were more "approachable" for a first-time listener, the initial impression would be more positive.
freakshopusa ooh I get your point. They should try something from sorceress album its right in the middle of clean and too demanding stuff
wojtek1721 yes, exactly. While the Tool and Dream Theater examples aren't the best (not every band has the benefit of a song/video getting rotation on radio/TV), I think every band has songs early in their career that are good representations of their overall body of work.
In the case of Metallica, they started with something from the Black Album, but followed with something from Master of Puppets that was a better reflection of the band.
If it helps with the harsh vocals, try treating them as a separate instrument and see how it blends in with the other instrumentation in the background. That usually helps most people get into it. Then you can add that extra layer of lyrics on top of it and see how it, in my opinion, meshes better with the music more than clean vocals would.
this.... treat every part as texture
Alice in chains would
Transitions is the core of Progressive Metal.
It is the beauty of it, the greatest excitement comes from the multiple & ups & downs.
Opeth of course is not for a regular listeners, and of course it required a lot emotional & musical sensation.
Big fan of one of my greatest bands Opeth.
While I had hoped you would love this song, I'm not shocked at the reaction, especially after a first listen. I love your honest open mindedness in these videos; you'll call it like you see it but with respect for artists and fans. Keep up the good work!
And do Oblivion by Mastodon!
they wont like Mastodon either.
Suzumebachigr maybe, but it definitely deserves a shot, and Oblivion is definitely one of their more approachable songs.