Dude - absolutely love the transparency of this! Pricing can be (probably IS) the most difficult part for artists, mainly because of 3 reasons: 1. Doing our art is easier for us and we don't think about the fact that MOST people can't do what we do (especially the ones that are commisioning us). 2. We don't consider all the associated costs of not only things like paints, but even the smallest of supplies that is needed, as well as travel within the same town still has to be accounted for. 3. We are too modest in ourselves and our work.
Thanks for your experienced outlook from begining to completion of your outstanding work project . Im just begining to accept that kind of opportunity as well as a challenge .😊
Thanks so much for all this generous, sane & valuable info! 🌷After many years of making murals, I still get major anxiety trying to figure out how much to charge. This helped calm me down. 😉 🙏🙏
I just started using spray paint for murals about 2 years ago & you have been such a help to a newbie. I really appreciate your informed information. You & Kevin "SCRAPS" Burdick have been such help. THANK YOU 🙏🏿🙏🏿
I agree with you man, sometimes it’s not all about how much you can profit, I’ve done jobs for less than what I charge in full simply because I’m feeling the design and location and there’s nothing wrong with that,
Excellent video. Thanks so much for sharing this. Looking forward to reading your book, also. Who are the people you painted and why did you or Columbus State choose their portraits?
Thanks! How you enjoy the read. Columbus State, and a few other community members were involved in choosing the people. and one of them i actually met while i was eating breakfast at a local spot. Mikey was a Vietnam vet and had a ton of stories so i asked them if he could be one of the individuals. a locl photographer Sammi did the photos for reference and then sent them to me to paint.
I just visited this mural today in Columbus, it looks insanely beautiful 🙌🏼. The details are incredible! I’m curious as to what kind of caps you used for the hair, especially on the bearded man. I didn’t even know caps could spray lines that thin!
Thanks 1 million! Spray paint is definitely an amazing medium when learning a few techniques. There are a few different caps that I use that will spray different patterns. For once you learn them, an entire world is opened up.
Thanks so much for Sharing. I wondered what size the mural is, so that I could get an idea of approx how much materials would cost for the mural that I'm painting? The one I'm doing is in London, but your budgeting is still helpful. Thanks very much, All the best, Shana aka Shanarama
Thank you for sharing this! I got my butt kicked for an underpaid project. That I’m still questioning if was worth it or not. I’m learning from it but for you to share this helps me see that I wasn’t crazy! I only settled because they told me I was too expensive. And could find someone else cheaper. Definitely a learning lesson. I’ll have to stick to my guns next time
Definitely stick to your guns. If they can tell you that they can find someone cheaper than let them. Sometimes it takes for them to receive poor quality work for them to realize that they have to pay for good art. The more NO’s you give a better quality you’re YES’ become.
Hi I want to start doing this type of art would you suggest me getting spray cans or an air brush ? I ask as spray cans seem a lot more expensive and probably will waste a lot at first as I’m learning. Any help is appreciated
And airbrushes too small for larger walls but I would say to first start with brush work while you are learning how to use spray paint cans. It just takes time to learn it but once you do for the type of work do you want to do it becomes easier and easier. Practice makes perfect
When you do a mural like this are there any artistic decisions you are making on site as you do the mural? And besides digital are there any other mock ups you do of the piece, like in your planning stages?
The background is basically me free styling everything and colors. It was mostly the photo references that were used as the main focus when doing a presentation to the city. And it was a quick mock up. I usually take a picture of the wall and splash color in procreate on my iPad. I then insert reference images/photos. That is basically how I communicate what I want to paint and this is because a lot of my color schemes are improvise while I’m painting so that I don’t have to stick to a specific mockup color
This is Beautiful! Do you mentor? I would love the opportunity to learn from you in person next time you’re in Atlanta. I haven’t had murals on this scale by far. My market is more residential type murals but I would love to learn from someone like you!
Unfortunately, no mentoring other than through these videos. I will definitely announce next time I'm in Atlanta. I'll try to do a workshop if possible.
how do you go about renting the construction lift that ascends for high places? I dont even know what it is called I' still waiting on the city manager to get back to me about doing a few murals for the city. I've only done two murals. should I expect to get payment? is that included in the budget. I want to be professional as possible. but I'm not savy on what to present or how to make a presentation. what should I have prepared? As of right now I'm working on a few mock designs to present to them once I get a audience with the city manager. but the city assistant manager said she wants to get me approved for one. I sent a few of my artworks along with pictures of the comissioned work and 2 murals I've already done. I really don't know what else I need to do next.
Hello the equipment is a articulating boom lift but there are many versions of it. Here is a video that i made about how to rent one. ruclips.net/video/vhsTbVeVypw/видео.html I also made a video about presentation: ruclips.net/video/66VzcqKh158/видео.html How to find walls to paint: ruclips.net/video/5sBFJgE4oFQ/видео.html You can also watch a lot of these videos in this playlist to get a understanding of the mural process: ruclips.net/p/PLRN1ojuu49p4FX45xCiIt1zTcbh4IOCEs
One question.. I just completed my first outdoor mural on super rough cement block texture. I'd love to seal it so the salt/alkaline doesn't seep through like it's done for other artists commissioned in this area. I used Killz 2 Primer and ordered Vandlguard to spray over top next week. BUT I ordered the "Bloklok with Graffiti Guard" Do you think this would be fine enough just to protect from weather elements and keep that salt/alkaline from seeping through? Not to worried about Graffiti in this area...Super helpful video as usual btw! Can't wait to see this mural in person.
That is an interesting question and situation. I have not run into that predicament at all specifically because denver is dry. Vandlgaurd has been pretty good for all sorts of protection. I also have not use bloklock as well, but I’m going to pick some up to try so that I can review it’s effectiveness. Definitely let us know how it goes.
@@iamdetour Ahhh that makes sense that you wouldn't have to worry about it as much. Lol I'm from Atlanta, currently in Huntsville, AL so lots of humid/rainy weather year-round... I'd love for you to do a review! I'll definitely try to report back with whatever happens.
So for travel i know based on the project you have to come out of pocket for a lot of these. Pricing is the hardest thing to calculate for me i feel like i lowball myself for most projects
When working on a city project how do you give the break-up of the cost? Supposing their mural budget is 20k, then do you come-up with a budget to match 20k?
Not sure of the entire square footage. That’s because of the wall tapered off in both ends mainly are usually focus on the areas with the references as the area I base my estimates on. That area was about 17x60
@iamdetour sounds about like $15-20/sq. ft. then. If that's the case, I'd agree it's probably a third of the price that you'd charge with your experience. The travel experience/new places sometimes outweighs budget ratios. Turned out great. 👍🏻
Dude - absolutely love the transparency of this! Pricing can be (probably IS) the most difficult part for artists, mainly because of 3 reasons:
1. Doing our art is easier for us and we don't think about the fact that MOST people can't do what we do (especially the ones that are commisioning us).
2. We don't consider all the associated costs of not only things like paints, but even the smallest of supplies that is needed, as well as travel within the same town still has to be accounted for.
3. We are too modest in ourselves and our work.
Oh, not to mention all of these costs are able to be written off on your taxes!
also the cost for time spent on meetings, presentations, , , & creation of the DESIGN!
Thank you! I am always trying to educated mural “buyers” how much materials alone cost…not to mention all my work.
Glad it was helpful! the cost is always more than what people think so hopefully they will see this and allocate more to these projects
Thanks for your experienced outlook from begining to completion of your outstanding work project . Im just begining to accept that kind of opportunity as well as a challenge .😊
I really appreciate your transparency of working on projects! It helps a lot when I create my quotes for murals!
Thanks so much for all this generous, sane & valuable info! 🌷After many years of making murals, I still get major anxiety trying to figure out how much to charge. This helped calm me down. 😉 🙏🙏
Oh, and the love you put into your work really shows! Such beautiful detail...
Thank you for posting this. All of your videos are awesome!
I just started using spray paint for murals about 2 years ago & you have been such a help to a newbie. I really appreciate your informed information. You & Kevin "SCRAPS" Burdick have been such help. THANK YOU 🙏🏿🙏🏿
Glad to help! ill have more videos coming up
These videos where you get into the actual details of logistics and payments/pricing with examples are super helpful! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Thanks for this video! Really cool to understand the costs of it more!
Beautiful work ❤
Appreciate you ! I just landed a massive church to paint, 3 large walls. This helps me better understand how to price everything.
Awesome! That’s great!!!
Enormous wall and you did a fantastic job on it. Truly a masterful piece. Thanks for sharing your numbers. Super appreciate that.
Thanks a million
I admire your artwork and knowledge! Thank you for sharing.
My pleasure!
Thank you so much for all your videos! I paint my first mural in Idaho this summer and these videos have been so helpful thank you!
You are so welcome!
I agree with you man, sometimes it’s not all about how much you can profit, I’ve done jobs for less than what I charge in full simply because I’m feeling the design and location and there’s nothing wrong with that,
You are some kind of genius! Wow, just wow!
🙏🙏🙏
Love your work. Really appreciate your honesty and transparency in your videos😎🙏
I appreciate that!
Thank you for the insights. Great job as always.
Really appreciate how open you are with this information regarding budget but also supplies. Your work is fantastic!
Excellent video. Thanks so much for sharing this. Looking forward to reading your book, also.
Who are the people you painted and why did you or Columbus State choose their portraits?
Thanks! How you enjoy the read. Columbus State, and a few other community members were involved in choosing the people. and one of them i actually met while i was eating breakfast at a local spot. Mikey was a Vietnam vet and had a ton of stories so i asked them if he could be one of the individuals. a locl photographer Sammi did the photos for reference and then sent them to me to paint.
I just visited this mural today in Columbus, it looks insanely beautiful 🙌🏼. The details are incredible! I’m curious as to what kind of caps you used for the hair, especially on the bearded man. I didn’t even know caps could spray lines that thin!
Thanks 1 million! Spray paint is definitely an amazing medium when learning a few techniques. There are a few different caps that I use that will spray different patterns. For once you learn them, an entire world is opened up.
Nice work! The mural will bring more your way. Worth the pay cut in due time.
That's the plan! 🙌🙌🙌
Awesome job and information!!!
Thanks!!!
Thank you for giving actual numbers. It’s hard to get that information
Thanks so much for Sharing. I wondered what size the mural is, so that I could get an idea of approx how much materials would cost for the mural that I'm painting? The one I'm doing is in London, but your budgeting is still helpful. Thanks very much, All the best, Shana aka Shanarama
Thank you for sharing this! I got my butt kicked for an underpaid project. That I’m still questioning if was worth it or not. I’m learning from it but for you to share this helps me see that I wasn’t crazy! I only settled because they told me I was too expensive. And could find someone else cheaper. Definitely a learning lesson. I’ll have to stick to my guns next time
Definitely stick to your guns. If they can tell you that they can find someone cheaper than let them. Sometimes it takes for them to receive poor quality work for them to realize that they have to pay for good art. The more NO’s you give a better quality you’re YES’ become.
@@iamdetour Thank you! You’re such a blessing!
Amazing!
Thanks!
Not sure if you mentioned it or not but what were the dimensions of the wall? Thanks for sharing this by the way!😊
I think it's about 300 feet long and goes up to 20ft high.
Hi I want to start doing this type of art would you suggest me getting spray cans or an air brush ?
I ask as spray cans seem a lot more expensive and probably will waste a lot at first as I’m learning. Any help is appreciated
And airbrushes too small for larger walls but I would say to first start with brush work while you are learning how to use spray paint cans. It just takes time to learn it but once you do for the type of work do you want to do it becomes easier and easier. Practice makes perfect
Cool video! How long were you on site for this project?
How long did it take you to complete the mural?
I took about 10 days to paint.
When you do a mural like this are there any artistic decisions you are making on site as you do the mural?
And besides digital are there any other mock ups you do of the piece, like in your planning stages?
The background is basically me free styling everything and colors. It was mostly the photo references that were used as the main focus when doing a presentation to the city. And it was a quick mock up. I usually take a picture of the wall and splash color in procreate on my iPad. I then insert reference images/photos. That is basically how I communicate what I want to paint and this is because a lot of my color schemes are improvise while I’m painting so that I don’t have to stick to a specific mockup color
This is Beautiful! Do you mentor? I would love the opportunity to learn from you in person next time you’re in Atlanta.
I haven’t had murals on this scale by far. My market is more residential type murals but I would love to learn from someone like you!
Unfortunately, no mentoring other than through these videos. I will definitely announce next time I'm in Atlanta. I'll try to do a workshop if possible.
how do you go about renting the construction lift that ascends for high places? I dont even know what it is called I' still waiting on the city manager to get back to me about doing a few murals for the city. I've only done two murals. should I expect to get payment? is that included in the budget. I want to be professional as possible. but I'm not savy on what to present or how to make a presentation. what should I have prepared? As of right now I'm working on a few mock designs to present to them once I get a audience with the city manager. but the city assistant manager said she wants to get me approved for one. I sent a few of my artworks along with pictures of the comissioned work and 2 murals I've already done. I really don't know what else I need to do next.
Hello the equipment is a articulating boom lift but there are many versions of it. Here is a video that i made about how to rent one. ruclips.net/video/vhsTbVeVypw/видео.html
I also made a video about presentation: ruclips.net/video/66VzcqKh158/видео.html
How to find walls to paint: ruclips.net/video/5sBFJgE4oFQ/видео.html
You can also watch a lot of these videos in this playlist to get a understanding of the mural process: ruclips.net/p/PLRN1ojuu49p4FX45xCiIt1zTcbh4IOCEs
Sir I have a 40 ft x 15 ft high mural to do in Winston Salem. How should I price this ?
One question.. I just completed my first outdoor mural on super rough cement block texture. I'd love to seal it so the salt/alkaline doesn't seep through like it's done for other artists commissioned in this area. I used Killz 2 Primer and ordered Vandlguard to spray over top next week. BUT I ordered the "Bloklok with Graffiti Guard" Do you think this would be fine enough just to protect from weather elements and keep that salt/alkaline from seeping through? Not to worried about Graffiti in this area...Super helpful video as usual btw! Can't wait to see this mural in person.
That is an interesting question and situation. I have not run into that predicament at all specifically because denver is dry. Vandlgaurd has been pretty good for all sorts of protection. I also have not use bloklock as well, but I’m going to pick some up to try so that I can review it’s effectiveness. Definitely let us know how it goes.
@@iamdetour Ahhh that makes sense that you wouldn't have to worry about it as much. Lol I'm from Atlanta, currently in Huntsville, AL so lots of humid/rainy weather year-round... I'd love for you to do a review! I'll definitely try to report back with whatever happens.
So for travel i know based on the project you have to come out of pocket for a lot of these. Pricing is the hardest thing to calculate for me i feel like i lowball myself for most projects
When working on a city project how do you give the break-up of the cost? Supposing their mural budget is 20k, then do you come-up with a budget to match 20k?
That's a good question! Let me work on a vid about that.
@@iamdetour Thanks!
Hi do just use the spray can or a air compressor with a spray gun
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Thanks!!!
Do you have a rough idea of the area? Square metre or ft?
Not sure of the total sq/ft area. Took about 25 galllons of latex to cover everything
How long did it take to complete?
About 7 days
You were too kind on the pricing. Good deal❤
Love ur vids
Square footage?
Not sure of the entire square footage. That’s because of the wall tapered off in both ends mainly are usually focus on the areas with the references as the area I base my estimates on. That area was about 17x60
@iamdetour sounds about like $15-20/sq. ft. then. If that's the case, I'd agree it's probably a third of the price that you'd charge with your experience. The travel experience/new places sometimes outweighs budget ratios. Turned out great. 👍🏻
Wow great job....This is true Art!. I wish the city of Boston would have hired you to do something for MLK than the atrocious "Embrace"
Thanks very few mention money for some reason
I would not have given that big of a discount. Never