No, people just started asking 9 months ago when he made this video because this video is about the murder charges of Derrick Chauvin related to the 2020 killing of George Floyd. It just came up again today, and since only 3 states have 3rd degree murder, a lot of people like myself still didn’t understand it. Then, just TODAY, March 10, 2021, MINNESOTA’S SUPREME COURT REINSTATED THE CHARGE OF 3rd DEGREE MURDER. I appreciated this video because I didn’t understand what it was and neither did/does a lot of people. Nowhere in his video does he mention a question from 4 years ago. So you’re childish attempt for a sick burn only makes you look uninformed and rude. People come to watch videos like this one to learn about things they wouldn’t otherwise know, so why were you here at all? That’s right, to be an internet troll because it’s easier to write trash on the internet than to read a newspaper or subscribe to a news magazine. Most of them are even free dude. Grow up! America deserves better! You got over a thousand likes for being rude and disrespectful. I literally go to bed praying our country finds a way out of this mess we are in because with this kind of nonsense everywhere, how are our children supposed to find their way. The internet isn’t going anywhere and kids and adults need to be able to have access to information without having to suffer through bad information left in the comment sections on the internet by people like you who use a pseudonym and display a cartoon character as your profile picture. Wanna get online and write this, use your real name and your real face so people can see you coward!
Dude, there's 30 something dislike out of the 50k views and I would bet most of them are innocent mistakes. It's not like the like dislike percentage ratio was 50/50.
Thank you! Much appreciated! Subscribed. Then checked out playlists only to be disappointed to find the topics sloppily put together and scattered. Sorry.
@@MJVelascoSalvador have you been into 25 years in prison? no, shut the fuck up and know how much that counting days on 4x4m room walls, you will run out of your room walls before you get out you tard
Hey there professor, I watched your other video explaining murder and manslaughter. It was straightforward, but I'm still confused with 3rd degree murder. Here is what I think so far, and maybe you can confirm?: 1st D.M. is intent to cause harm / death (ex. teach them a lesson) 2nd D.M. is gross negligence (ex. street racer kills someone) 3rd D.M. is like 1st D.M. but without the intent of death? (ex. Causing harm without the intent to murder) I would love clarification. Great videos so far 👌🏼
If someones is tellying you they cant breathe for like 10th time and youre still choking him, the intention is CLEAR. Thats 2nd DEGREE MURDER because he obviously didnt plan it before hand but during the moment he intended to kill him.
Brady Carrigan if thats the case, no one should ever consider admitting killing somebody on purpose despite any evidence against them, to prevent further consequences. theres a whole video recorded for that crime and the world saw it. Its more than enough to read and tell the intention just by looking at this evidence. “Even after the victim passed out and lost his breath, fell unconcious, the murderer was still standing on his neck. What does that tell you?” Oh and do you know how many innocent people are behind the bars who confessed they did not commit any crime and yet they had them in there? without a single proof. not even one. The killing of george floyd was filmed from a to z and thats more than enough evidence to read the intention of a convict
its not true tho, if someone is actually choking they wouldnt tell u they cant breath because they cant even breath to talk, so the cop knew the man was suffering but didnt expect it to kill him, so 3rd degree is more fitting, the cop is cruel but not dumb enough to purposely kill him like this
This was very helpful. Thank you so much for making this clear so quickly! The charge totally makes sense. I believe that the rioters need to hear this! If only three states in the U.S.A. have Third Degree Murder, most people will confuse it with Third Degree Manslaughter. I know that I did that, prior to hearing what you explained. I was heart sick to think that the officials had determined that George Floyd had not been murdered, but instead, had been accidentally killed. But as I said, I get it now. I just wish the entire country could see this video today.
It depends on the case sorry if I'm not him answering so let's say you say that you are going to kill Jonh doe. Then the next week or month that John do that you said you were going to kill comes up dead. The police will already put eyes on you as you will become there first suspect if they dont have reason to believe that someone else could have done it. If your going to say like I'm going to run a red light but you dont do it then they dont look at you like you did it since there is no evidence that you followed up with the claim you made. I'm not an expert so please take this as a grain of salt. Bye
if u threathen harm it could land you in trouble , e.g. if you threaten to beat someone up you might get consequences for this if it becomes a police matter
Thank you for responding sir, well I didn’t actually threaten anyone! Let me be clear so you kind of understand what happened, I was talking to someone about my pay then I said there are people who cheat in this field and make more money than the other person said that is illegal you could kill someone or do something bad and go to prison for it, is that something you want to do then I said something like “sure it worth taking the risk for better pay” I was frustrated at that moment of course I didn’t mean it!
Thank you!!! I am trying to follow the trial and decide in my head what the charge should be. He obviously won't be aquitted at the very very least it is manslaughter probably second degree murder but third degree I guess is kind of inbetween? Thanks again for explaining
I got a question, you seem to be the person who would know maybe? I only have watched two of your videos so far. I was wandering what is homacide? I don't know how to spell it sadly. From what I am guessing it is like a conbanation of suicide and genocide. Like the person kills 1(or more) people and then kill themselves. Is that a currect definition?
تحياتي للجميع من لبنان... نعم لا يوجد أي نية و لكنه أستخف بحياته . Greeting from Lebanon..to end up this riots .. or to pull it out . JUSTICE MUST BE DONE . damne it son .
Question can a perpetrator start without the intent to kill but then develop intent especially in an attack that lasted this long? Seems to me at some point he knew Mr Floyd was going to die and continued the attack. I’m not a lawyer so if anyone knows I’d like to hear from you. Thanks.
Thank you for this legal explanation of what constitutes the different forms of murder in America (and elsewhere too). Does that necessarily correspond with 1st degree life (for whites), 2nd degree (I don't know who belongs here) and 3rd degree life (where black lives count for little except to their families and the rest of them blacks, so it shouldn't be that difficult to dispatch them to their maker?)? When you kneel on the neck of someone you have already subjugated, when this poor man tells you he can no longer breath, when he is equally pleading in pain for water, when 3 other cops watch so that no one can think of saving him, when there are witnesses pleading for the subjugated victim's life, when he tells you his whole body is hurting, when this act continues for 8 or 9 minutes in a position where the victim can barely maneuver any part of his body, and when you finally release the garrote when you are sure the victim is definitely dead because he is no longer saying he can't breath (well, HE IS DEAD), can you really say there was no intent to murder? I thought blacks have had to take the worst form of atrocities that could happen to humanity--colonialism centuries of slavery, materials and methods for research (remember Tuskegee, Hernietta Lacks, etc. etc.), and now this umpteenth murder. So how exactly do you legally define a white man's brain? Should we not call it a shithole brain?
Yo same question I thought homicide was the one about not having the intent to kill and murder is the one with intent turns out that's not the case 🤷♀️
Homicide is the killing of one human being by another. May be lawful in the sense of police killing a criminal or in cases of self-defense. Murder is an unlawful killing of one human being by another or "homicide with malice."
I still don't understand the difference between 2nd and 3rd degree. You said that 2nd degree was also because of gross negligence and gave the example of street racing. But here too it seems like that scenario would apply. Can you pls elaborate on their difference?
Hi Jay Milbrandt, thank you for your you explanation in this video. If I am correct the officer should be ‘judged for second- degree murder if I am understanding your explanation in you video’s correctly. In your RUclips video that you explain ‘first-degree, second degree murder an manslaughter at exactly 1:10.’ The street racer and the man in jail stabbing but not intent to kill. Rest In Peace Floyd.
that was great info. but a question. i get it that 3rd degree murder is easier to prove. but if convicted, is it of a less penalty or maximal penalty compared to 1st or 2nd degree???
If i told someone to hurt someone then they accidentally commit 3rd degree murder what am i charged with, also if i witness someone hurt someone and they die unintentionally what would i get charged with?
Police behind bars are not safe from the fellow prisoners. Especially this policeman. Everyone in the prison will be waiting for him. Unless they keep him in solitary confinement, he won’t be safe for long.
Take Car Accident. A person driving his car recklessly, over speeding, knowing his actions would cause harm towards the other car, but he wants something like that to happen. He wants to ram the other car hoping the person gets killed caused by his actions. This is 3rd degree murder on a nutshell. Now, same situation, only the driver thinks the road is clear and his over speeding is safe to try and dosen't think much about it because in his mind he is the only driver in the road. But lo and behold, a The other person's car t-boned in front of his over speeding car which causes the other person to death. He only knew he was being reckless and carefree because in his mind he thought the road was clear and no other car would suddenly appear in from of him. But the rule of thumb still exists that many other cars could appear even if he thinks the road is clean. So it is his fault to ignore the rules which were set to avoid those situatuons. Unfollowing those rules led to death of the other car driver. Both of the person didn't knew what was about to happen, but it did because of one person's unwilful ignorance. That's involuntary manslaughter on a nutshell.
Can he also be charged with second degree? I saw prior video about your second degree example with the race car, unintentionally killed the other driver? Also, I saw the news that GF family were not happy with 3rd degree murder and is pushing for first degree murder, do you think there’s a chance for first degree murder?
First degree is out of the question, from what we can see the cops just met George randomly and a 1st degree case would need you to prove meeting was absolutely intentional, 2nd degree is iffy because we cannot read Chauvlin's mind to prove that he 100% intended to kill him, the filmed events actually don't signal any major and convincing evidence that was the case so he'll also most likely walk out
Hi its not really clear In the other video you gave the example of a stabbing with intent to harm yet not to kill. That was first degree murder due to criminal negligence. I dont understand the difference in examples as they both were commited with a depraved heart yet no intent to kill. Can you elaborate? Thank you sir!
Kinda hard proving intent. Kneeling on one's neck to restrain is a common procedure i often see. So does the officer knew his kneeling will kill floyd and intent on letting it happen? Or he is stupid officer that think (his kneeling wont kill floyd and he also think floyd is lying about his breathing condition)?
Ohhh this makes sense. Everyone was asking why not 1st degree and it makes sense because they most likely don't have evidence to support the claim that the officer intended to kill
If u are in a Bar fight, and u punched someone to death, you were not really intending to kill, death was a result of the punches but u were careless about what could had happened, Wich is different from buying a gun and go to someone's house to shoot him until is death
More likely just manslaughter. Because if they thought they could prove reckless abandon, they would just bump up the charges to 2nd degree instead of 3rd.
Omar Santana -3rd degree is max 25 years but also saw the news just now that the family are pushing for first degree, wants the life in prison. Unfortunately only 3 states have 3rd degree murder by Minnesota is on of them.
@@norikkagodun568 - right. its MN, FL & PA. he got charged with 3rd degree because its much easier to prove. if prosecution goes for 1st degree & jury finds Chauvin innocent of that then he walks. no one can see the future but i feel as if 3rd degree is a sure thing.
@Vasilijan Nikolovski - yes I do feel that he will get convinced. the case is about intent which I truly believe the 3rd degree charge firmly covers. at this point I'm waiting for the other shoes to drop for the last 3 (ex) cops involved.
His actions showed he wanted to hurt him, kill, and prove a point.. The look on his face said it all. He didn't care.. He knows right from wrong but also how to put pain on a person to show he in control.
So 3rd degree murder is like the in-between of 2rd degree and involuntary manslaughter Its a reckless abandonment of life just like 2rd degree but it's also kind off an accident like involuntary manslaughter I'm not sure if I got it right, someone please correct me if I understood this wrong
But then what is the exact difference between 2nd and 3rd degree murder since 2nd degree murder is rekless abandonment. They both seem the same to me. Can someone explain it to me?
2nd, "i know my kneeling will kill floyd. Let it happen i him dead." 3rd, "nah i kneel as per procedure he wont die, he probably lie about not able to breath". (floyd die) "ah shit!".
@@joe4916 good reading comprehension tho. Ok here i shall use car example cuz u have car as profil pic. Lets say Speeding. I take this from a commenter. -If you speed your car on intent to harm whoever on road or cause havoc because you just get depressing news, then hit someone and killed the man. Its a 2nd degree murder. You had intent to harm or kill other and its on the spot reaction. -lets the road is clear, so you speed to avoid coming late. You hit someone then he is dead. Your intent on speeding is not to kill the guy but to avoid getting late which is a negligence. This is 3rd degree. Thats my opinion on the difference. Could be wrong, hopefully better commenter could comment. Edit; 3rd degree
So you work for 19 years as an officer, and you know what is legal and what not legal. I dont see this is a third degree murder. He knew what he did, he should be charge with first degreed and other 3 third degree. He should be punish more then regular people. How can you put out the law and not follow and expect people to follow. And those 3 cop who there its same. Im asian and im ashame of that asian cop not stand up from right to wrong. We should be equal no one is more or less as human, citizent shouldnt be better then those who are not. Everyone should be equal as human.
@@MJVelascoSalvador its sad that they are just do this to stop the roit, by using term of lease sentence but sound like major cause it have murder in it. Its sad bro, cause alots of people dont understand.
I think the thing here is that a healthy NON intoxicated adult wouldnt die in the place of George floyd may he RIP, but on the other hand chauvin failed to provide help
2nd degree and 3rd degree murder sound as though they’re both based on reckless abandonment that results in death with intent not being a prime motivator 🤔
I don't agree with this explanation. The intent doesn't mean before coming to the scene, in Floyd case after Mr. Floyd was motionless, he continued his criminal act so his intent was to kill, that's not hard to prove. However if the officer stopped right after Mr.Floyd became motionless then it could have been 2nd degree. If he stopped before Mr. Floyd became motionless, then 3rd degree in there.
At some point in pressing your knee onto someone’s neck for 9 minutes while he’s telling you he cannot breathe, you make a conscious decision to stay on top of his neck. Intent is not impossible to prove.
Yes this helped me a lot. I knew it was murder with out intent. Before hearing this explanation I looked at it like you ran someone over by accident with your car and killed them. That cop is kneeling on the mans throat for they say seven minutes. I did not clock it myself. It appears that he has full intentions on killing that man. What he did with his knee is the same thing as if he was holding a pillow over the man's face. I think we all see it for what it is except for the cops guarding their partner while he commits murder.
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Wow. He saw people asking a question on his video from 4 YEARS AGO and made an entire video to answer the question. What a legend
Mad respect ✊
It was recommended to me and after watching that I clicked this. Not knowing it was just posted.
Crazy right!!
No, people just started asking 9 months ago when he made this video because this video is about the murder charges of Derrick Chauvin related to the 2020 killing of George Floyd. It just came up again today, and since only 3 states have 3rd degree murder, a lot of people like myself still didn’t understand it. Then, just TODAY, March 10, 2021, MINNESOTA’S SUPREME COURT REINSTATED THE CHARGE OF 3rd DEGREE MURDER. I appreciated this video because I didn’t understand what it was and neither did/does a lot of people. Nowhere in his video does he mention a question from 4 years ago. So you’re childish attempt for a sick burn only makes you look uninformed and rude. People come to watch videos like this one to learn about things they wouldn’t otherwise know, so why were you here at all? That’s right, to be an internet troll because it’s easier to write trash on the internet than to read a newspaper or subscribe to a news magazine. Most of them are even free dude. Grow up! America deserves better! You got over a thousand likes for being rude and disrespectful. I literally go to bed praying our country finds a way out of this mess we are in because with this kind of nonsense everywhere, how are our children supposed to find their way. The internet isn’t going anywhere and kids and adults need to be able to have access to information without having to suffer through bad information left in the comment sections on the internet by people like you who use a pseudonym and display a cartoon character as your profile picture. Wanna get online and write this, use your real name and your real face so people can see you coward!
@@JDMK931 I wasn't dissing him, you moron, I was literally praising his dedication.
Why are you disliking this video, he’s just explaining how it works
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Razkanaz lol
Videos with at least 10 000 views always has dislikes
Trolls probably
Dude, there's 30 something dislike out of the 50k views and I would bet most of them are innocent mistakes. It's not like the like dislike percentage ratio was 50/50.
Thank you I didn’t fully understand until this video. 😊👍🏼
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Sounds like Second Degree Murder with extra steps
Thank you for explaining 3rd degree. I hadn't heard of it before.
So pleased to youtube this and randomly click and get a fellow Minnesotan! Thank you Professor Millbrandt!
I seek to be a criminal prosecutor one day, this is really helpful to open my eyes especially in light of the George Floydd murder. Thank you :)
I hope you will stay neutral in solving the case
That’s so stupid everyone cars about George Floyd but not the small black businesses that the BLM protesting wrecked
Thank you so much! & RIP GEORGE FLOYD
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SKOOLED!
Exactly y I’m here😭
REQUIESCAT IN PACE George Floyd
Lmao its just one guy
That was great thank you
This video is going to explode in views since everyone is googling ‘third degree murder’ after the Chauvin case.
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Thank you for share your knowled sir.
Have a great day.
Thank you for taking the time to explain this...
Man, you are so cool, thanks from Russia for explaining such hard things so easily, that even non-speaker can understand
Thank you! Much appreciated! Subscribed. Then checked out playlists only to be disappointed to find the topics sloppily put together and scattered. Sorry.
Thank you for defining this!
What consequences are given for 3rd degree murder?
@Jess Moore totally not fair man just 25 years!?
@Jess Moore implying he'd be in general population and not protective custody with other cops
@@MJVelascoSalvador have you been into 25 years in prison? no, shut the fuck up and know how much that counting days on 4x4m room walls, you will run out of your room walls before you get out you tard
7 what do you think the price of blatant murder is then?
I believe the punishment should fit the crime. Sir.
@@MJVelascoSalvador you too should be put 25 years in prison for trying saving lifes from a crackhead that he was probably ganna murder someone
Hey there professor,
I watched your other video explaining murder and manslaughter. It was straightforward, but I'm still confused with 3rd degree murder. Here is what I think so far, and maybe you can confirm?:
1st D.M. is intent to cause harm / death
(ex. teach them a lesson)
2nd D.M. is gross negligence
(ex. street racer kills someone)
3rd D.M. is like 1st D.M. but without the intent of death?
(ex. Causing harm without the intent to murder)
I would love clarification. Great videos so far 👌🏼
Thanks for clearing that up!
Thank you for clarifying this
If someones is tellying you they cant breathe for like 10th time and youre still choking him, the intention is CLEAR. Thats 2nd DEGREE MURDER because he obviously didnt plan it before hand but during the moment he intended to kill him.
It’s been elevated to 2nd degree murder
Kevin O’Connell The manipulation of law and injustice is outragious! Thank god the man can rest in peace now
Brady Carrigan if thats the case, no one should ever consider admitting killing somebody on purpose despite any evidence against them, to prevent further consequences.
theres a whole video recorded for that crime and the world saw it. Its more than enough to read and tell the intention just by looking at this evidence.
“Even after the victim passed out and lost his breath, fell unconcious, the murderer was still standing on his neck. What does that tell you?”
Oh and do you know how many innocent people are behind the bars who confessed they did not commit any crime and yet they had them in there? without a single proof. not even one. The killing of george floyd was filmed from a to z and thats more than enough evidence to read the intention of a convict
Brady Carrigan you keep calling it whatever you like but its been elevated to 2nd degree murder and thats less than what he deserves.
its not true tho, if someone is actually choking they wouldnt tell u they cant breath because they cant even breath to talk, so the cop knew the man was suffering but didnt expect it to kill him, so 3rd degree is more fitting, the cop is cruel but not dumb enough to purposely kill him like this
Thank you this video was very informative 👌
Would you do videos explaining things as the case goes?
Thank you so much for this info
Thank you so much for this video! :)
Thank you for explaining.
This was very helpful. Thank you so much for making this clear so quickly! The charge totally makes sense.
I believe that the rioters need to hear this! If only three states in the U.S.A. have Third Degree Murder, most people will confuse it with Third Degree Manslaughter. I know that I did that, prior to hearing what you explained. I was heart sick to think that the officials had determined that George Floyd had not been murdered, but instead, had been accidentally killed. But as I said, I get it now. I just wish the entire country could see this video today.
Thank you for making this video 🙂
Thanks for helping me understand
THANK YOU!!
Hello there, does saying I would do something that’s illegal is like having done it and what is the consequences!
It depends on the case sorry if I'm not him answering so let's say you say that you are going to kill Jonh doe. Then the next week or month that John do that you said you were going to kill comes up dead. The police will already put eyes on you as you will become there first suspect if they dont have reason to believe that someone else could have done it. If your going to say like I'm going to run a red light but you dont do it then they dont look at you like you did it since there is no evidence that you followed up with the claim you made. I'm not an expert so please take this as a grain of salt. Bye
if u threathen harm it could land you in trouble , e.g. if you threaten to beat someone up you might get consequences for this if it becomes a police matter
Thank you for responding sir, well I didn’t actually threaten anyone! Let me be clear so you kind of understand what happened, I was talking to someone about my pay then I said there are people who cheat in this field and make more money than the other person said that is illegal you could kill someone or do something bad and go to prison for it, is that something you want to do then I said something like “sure it worth taking the risk for better pay” I was frustrated at that moment of course I didn’t mean it!
@@brickwallpublication7703 you will not face consequences because you didnt threaten anyone youre chilling
Thank you for taking the time and respond to me !
Thank you 🙏
Thank you!!! I am trying to follow the trial and decide in my head what the charge should be. He obviously won't be aquitted at the very very least it is manslaughter probably second degree murder but third degree I guess is kind of inbetween? Thanks again for explaining
Thank you
Thank you sir, I had no idea what It meant :)
Thanks it's clear now 👍
is there a difference in min/max sentencing in Minnesota for 3rd vs. 2nd??
I got a question, you seem to be the person who would know maybe? I only have watched two of your videos so far. I was wandering what is homacide? I don't know how to spell it sadly. From what I am guessing it is like a conbanation of suicide and genocide. Like the person kills 1(or more) people and then kill themselves. Is that a currect definition?
Thanks, bro!
Thanks.
تحياتي للجميع من لبنان...
نعم لا يوجد أي نية و لكنه أستخف بحياته .
Greeting from Lebanon..to end up this riots .. or to pull it out .
JUSTICE MUST BE DONE .
damne it son .
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Question can a perpetrator start without the intent to kill but then develop intent especially in an attack that lasted this long?
Seems to me at some point he knew Mr Floyd was going to die and continued the attack.
I’m not a lawyer so if anyone knows I’d like to hear from you.
Thanks.
thanks
Thanks!
GOD bless 🙏🏿
Haha. I just came from your previous video
I'm the thousandth like!!
Thank you. Now I'm a bit confused between 2nd and 3rd degree since both have a disregard for laws or rights without the plausible intention of murder?
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What’s the maximum and minimum sentencing time?
Hey thanks !
Thank you for this legal explanation of what constitutes the different forms of murder in America (and elsewhere too). Does that necessarily correspond with 1st degree life (for whites), 2nd degree (I don't know who belongs here) and 3rd degree life (where black lives count for little except to their families and the rest of them blacks, so it shouldn't be that difficult to dispatch them to their maker?)? When you kneel on the neck of someone you have already subjugated, when this poor man tells you he can no longer breath, when he is equally pleading in pain for water, when 3 other cops watch so that no one can think of saving him, when there are witnesses pleading for the subjugated victim's life, when he tells you his whole body is hurting, when this act continues for 8 or 9 minutes in a position where the victim can barely maneuver any part of his body, and when you finally release the garrote when you are sure the victim is definitely dead because he is no longer saying he can't breath (well, HE IS DEAD), can you really say there was no intent to murder? I thought blacks have had to take the worst form of atrocities that could happen to humanity--colonialism centuries of slavery, materials and methods for research (remember Tuskegee, Hernietta Lacks, etc. etc.), and now this umpteenth murder. So how exactly do you legally define a white man's brain? Should we not call it a shithole brain?
Idk if you already covered this but what is the difference between homicide and murder?
Yo same question I thought homicide was the one about not having the intent to kill and murder is the one with intent turns out that's not the case 🤷♀️
Homicide is the killing of one human being by another. May be lawful in the sense of police killing a criminal or in cases of self-defense. Murder is an unlawful killing of one human being by another or "homicide with malice."
So if it happened in another state that doesn t have the 3rd degree murder, what would it be classified as?
I still don't understand the difference between 2nd and 3rd degree. You said that 2nd degree was also because of gross negligence and gave the example of street racing. But here too it seems like that scenario would apply. Can you pls elaborate on their difference?
Hi Jay Milbrandt, thank you for your you explanation in this video. If I am correct the officer should be ‘judged for second- degree murder if I am understanding your explanation in you video’s correctly. In your RUclips video that you explain ‘first-degree, second degree murder an manslaughter at exactly 1:10.’ The street racer and the man in jail stabbing but not intent to kill. Rest In Peace Floyd.
that was great info. but a question. i get it that 3rd degree murder is easier to prove. but if convicted, is it of a less penalty or maximal penalty compared to 1st or 2nd degree???
and 1 more thing. what is 2nd degree murder in minnesota then?
So what is Capital Murder? I live in virginia and that gets thrown around a lot. Is it the same as first degree murder?🤔
If i told someone to hurt someone then they accidentally commit 3rd degree murder what am i charged with, also if i witness someone hurt someone and they die unintentionally what would i get charged with?
I don't think you explained the difference between 2nd and 3rd degree very well. Sounds like the same difference as between 1st and 2nd.
With third degree murder , they can give him years of prison. Its sad. Yes must easy to prove but the sentence can be very low not life.
Police behind bars are not safe from the fellow prisoners. Especially this policeman. Everyone in the prison will be waiting for him. Unless they keep him in solitary confinement, he won’t be safe for long.
@@DawnOldham you alreadys know he cannot be with general population, he will be in pc section.
What the difference between 3rd degree murder and involuntary manslaughter
Take Car Accident.
A person driving his car recklessly, over speeding, knowing his actions would cause harm towards the other car, but he wants something like that to happen. He wants to ram the other car hoping the person gets killed caused by his actions. This is 3rd degree murder on a nutshell.
Now, same situation, only the driver thinks the road is clear and his over speeding is safe to try and dosen't think much about it because in his mind he is the only driver in the road. But lo and behold, a
The other person's car t-boned in front of his over speeding car which causes the other person to death. He only knew he was being reckless and carefree because in his mind he thought the road was clear and no other car would suddenly appear in from of him. But the rule of thumb still exists that many other cars could appear even if he thinks the road is clean. So it is his fault to ignore the rules which were set to avoid those situatuons. Unfollowing those rules led to death of the other car driver. Both of the person didn't knew what was about to happen, but it did because of one person's unwilful ignorance. That's involuntary manslaughter on a nutshell.
Involuntary is an accident
@@Robbie_S lmao no the first one is 1st degree murder and the second would be 3rd degree murder
Can he also be charged with second degree? I saw prior video about your second degree example with the race car, unintentionally killed the other driver? Also, I saw the news that GF family were not happy with 3rd degree murder and is pushing for first degree murder, do you think there’s a chance for first degree murder?
First degree is out of the question, from what we can see the cops just met George randomly and a 1st degree case would need you to prove meeting was absolutely intentional, 2nd degree is iffy because we cannot read Chauvlin's mind to prove that he 100% intended to kill him, the filmed events actually don't signal any major and convincing evidence that was the case so he'll also most likely walk out
Hi its not really clear
In the other video you gave the example of a stabbing with intent to harm yet not to kill. That was first degree murder due to criminal negligence. I dont understand the difference in examples as they both were commited with a depraved heart yet no intent to kill. Can you elaborate? Thank you sir!
Is murdering someone in self defence considered first degree murder?
Voluntary manslaughter. I saw in one of his videos
is there a difference between 1st degree murder and premeditated, it seems those are interchangeable, am I wrong?
Yes. It is afaik
Hearing this explanation really makes me wonder why the officer in Floyd's case hasn't been charged with 3rd degree murder from the get-go.
Kinda hard proving intent. Kneeling on one's neck to restrain is a common procedure i often see.
So does the officer knew his kneeling will kill floyd and intent on letting it happen? Or he is stupid officer that think (his kneeling wont kill floyd and he also think floyd is lying about his breathing condition)?
what happens if someone is forced to kill a person to save their own life or their loved ones.
Are there differences in sentencing? Like does 3rd degree carry shorter sentence?
You can get up to 25 years in prison
Yeah a little 25 year sentence
RIP George
Is that not basically second-degree murder?
Ohhh this makes sense. Everyone was asking why not 1st degree and it makes sense because they most likely don't have evidence to support the claim that the officer intended to kill
I’m confused about second degree murder. How can you intend to murder someone without planning?
He has a great video explaining this on his channel, I was confused about that as well
If u are in a Bar fight, and u punched someone to death, you were not really intending to kill, death was a result of the punches but u were careless about what could had happened, Wich is different from buying a gun and go to someone's house to shoot him until is death
So if this happened in a state without 3rd degree murder, it would be considered 2nd degree? Because it is reckless abandon?
More likely just manslaughter. Because if they thought they could prove reckless abandon, they would just bump up the charges to 2nd degree instead of 3rd.
What about the sentencing!!
max of 25 years. Chauvin should get life.
Omar Santana -3rd degree is max 25 years but also saw the news just now that the family are pushing for first degree, wants the life in prison. Unfortunately only 3 states have 3rd degree murder by Minnesota is on of them.
@@norikkagodun568 - right. its MN, FL & PA. he got charged with 3rd degree because its much easier to prove. if prosecution goes for 1st degree & jury finds Chauvin innocent of that then he walks. no one can see the future but i feel as if 3rd degree is a sure thing.
@Vasilijan Nikolovski - yes I do feel that he will get convinced. the case is about intent which I truly believe the 3rd degree charge firmly covers. at this point I'm waiting for the other shoes to drop for the last 3 (ex) cops involved.
I don’t see how the officer can be charged with 3rd degree murder still, if the reports are saying he didn’t die by suffocation and asphyxiation.
Ok now I get why the cop was charged with 3rd degree murder
His actions showed he wanted to hurt him, kill, and prove a point.. The look on his face said it all. He didn't care.. He knows right from wrong but also how to put pain on a person to show he in control.
Isn't reckless abandon second degree?
here after derek chauvin’s murder trial
That 2nd degree murder was utterly insane claim
Why don’t we have a System where we charge him murder and then figure out the degree during the conviction
We alreadys knew its a "murder" or causing death. And no, thats not how the procedure works.
That's a dumb idea.
Yo but what’s 4° murder?
But it was torture too
So it's like manslaughter 🤔
You said third-degree murder is intent on killing somebody. Wouldn't that be interpreted as premeditated?
Minneapolis not Minnesota
So 3rd degree murder is like the in-between of 2rd degree and involuntary manslaughter
Its a reckless abandonment of life just like 2rd degree but it's also kind off an accident like involuntary manslaughter
I'm not sure if I got it right, someone please correct me if I understood this wrong
But then what is the exact difference between 2nd and 3rd degree murder since 2nd degree murder is rekless abandonment. They both seem the same to me. Can someone explain it to me?
2nd, "i know my kneeling will kill floyd. Let it happen i him dead."
3rd, "nah i kneel as per procedure he wont die, he probably lie about not able to breath". (floyd die) "ah shit!".
@@meferswift ah so for 3rd degree murder you're doing something that's just protocol.
@@joe4916 good reading comprehension tho.
Ok here i shall use car example cuz u have car as profil pic.
Lets say Speeding. I take this from a commenter.
-If you speed your car on intent to harm whoever on road or cause havoc because you just get depressing news, then hit someone and killed the man. Its a 2nd degree murder. You had intent to harm or kill other and its on the spot reaction.
-lets the road is clear, so you speed to avoid coming late. You hit someone then he is dead. Your intent on speeding is not to kill the guy but to avoid getting late which is a negligence. This is 3rd degree.
Thats my opinion on the difference. Could be wrong, hopefully better commenter could comment.
Edit; 3rd degree
@@meferswift ooohh. Thank you that made it clear. 👍
So you work for 19 years as an officer, and you know what is legal and what not legal. I dont see this is a third degree murder. He knew what he did, he should be charge with first degreed and other 3 third degree. He should be punish more then regular people. How can you put out the law and not follow and expect people to follow. And those 3 cop who there its same. Im asian and im ashame of that asian cop not stand up from right to wrong. We should be equal no one is more or less as human, citizent shouldnt be better then those who are not. Everyone should be equal as human.
Amen.. that guy seemed so arrogant as he stood there watching the murder took place. Sickens me to the core...
@@MJVelascoSalvador its sad that they are just do this to stop the roit, by using term of lease sentence but sound like major cause it have murder in it. Its sad bro, cause alots of people dont understand.
Prove the intent.
You are right but you have to prove it !!!
I think the thing here is that a healthy NON intoxicated adult wouldnt die in the place of George floyd may he RIP, but on the other hand chauvin failed to provide help
2nd degree and 3rd degree murder sound as though they’re both based on reckless abandonment that results in death with intent not being a prime motivator 🤔
Trying to prove mens rea 😭😭 will change the course of charges 😭😭
I don't agree with this explanation. The intent doesn't mean before coming to the scene, in Floyd case after Mr. Floyd was motionless, he continued his criminal act so his intent was to kill, that's not hard to prove. However if the officer stopped right after Mr.Floyd became motionless then it could have been 2nd degree. If he stopped before Mr. Floyd became motionless, then 3rd degree in there.
The description for third degree murder sounds just as bad as first and second 😢
Had to look this up after finding out the pig got charged for this.
Me too
Damn so early because of George Floyd, RIP ✨
did you mean Rest In Prison? you monster!
Grbović Andrej He’s implying he’s a criminal dumbass!
Grbović Andrej research it. Plain and simple.
At some point in pressing your knee onto someone’s neck for 9 minutes while he’s telling you he cannot breathe, you make a conscious decision to stay on top of his neck. Intent is not impossible to prove.
Exactly, 9 minutes??? If it wasn’t intent then wth was it? They’re pulling this third degree thing...... I call bullshit
No mercy should be given🙏🏾
Yes this helped me a lot. I knew it was murder with out intent. Before hearing this explanation I looked at it like you ran someone over by accident with your car and killed them. That cop is kneeling on the mans throat for they say seven minutes. I did not clock it myself. It appears that he has full intentions on killing that man. What he did with his knee is the same thing as if he was holding a pillow over the man's face. I think we all see it for what it is except for the cops guarding their partner while he commits murder.
He's done it before, and maybe...the prisoner didn't die. He's don't it allot.
He's a Bitch.
Is there 4th degree murder?
Only george
Thanks! now I know what they will charge me with on 6/21/2035
foreshadowing !!!!