The GOOD, the BAD, and the UGLY of Destination D23
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2023
- Well, here's the wrap-up for what turned out to be a super eventful week! I hope you all had as much fun following all of the news as I did. But seriously, that new Test Track is gonna be great. It's gotta be. I'm so excited.
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Indiana Jones and the Big Dinosaur that Runs Alongside the Jeep You're In
Guest Starring the Muppets and Joe Biden
Wow
I would hope for that, but also them doing something with the more fantastical side that animal kingdom was originally going to have as well, which would tie in nicely (it could be like a giant serpent or something similar from latin america mythos of course). I just hope the land isn't too cluttered though (mainly in terms of ip) but to be fair there have been worse fitting options.
The mouse is broke and may have to sell off half its assets. So no wonder everything is just rebadging and retheming instead of giant new lands or rides.
hell no!! indiana does NOT belong at animal kingdom! huge mistake!! dinosaur is the best ride at AK. i’m so pissed at how stupid disney is being with their theme parks lately!😬🫤
I miss when Disney actually made announcements about their parks instead of hinting at potential plans
Trying to dip their toes into public reaction before actually being inspired and confident in their work. Reeks of corporate upper management, spreadsheets and profit margins first stink.
Avoids the culpability when they end up scrapping a project.
Yesterworld Entertainment put out a video a few months back about how many big announcements got scrapped during the Eisner years. It was quite a lot.
Well considering how bad they financially are doing, they probably hope this vague hinting at possibilities counts as hype.
It's not a press event, it's a fan event, and any real fan should enjoy getting a peak behind the curtain at what they are thinking.
To be honest I thought they should’ve turned Dinoland into a beastly kingdom kind of thing because that would have been awesome to go back to the original plan for Animal Kingdom.
Correct and brilliant!
I think it would be best to add a beastly kingdom in place of Dinoland, but keep the dinosaur ride. I think it could work really well as a transition from mythical dragons to the real animals whose bones inspired them.
Exactly. Also I really love Dinosaur and I’m sad to see it go.
You're correct Chris Evans
Exactly. I can understand encanto to an extent regarding how it ties into animals but indy just seems like a wrong fit to me
“You dream it. We’re thinking about it.” That’s the most modern Disney imagineering line I’ve ever heard 😂🙄😂
The most disappointing thing was that they didn’t announce anything. The whole thing just felt like a “we might do this” or “we might do that”. They don’t even know if they are going to move forward with these projects. It’s sad to see because many Disney parks outside of the US are moving forward with their expansions
Agreed, but like he said in the video Disney isn’t fronting all the money for sponsored attractions, the sponsors are and since most of the overseas parks are licensed/operated by a company other than Disney, those other companies are footing the bill
The Zootopia overhaul under the tree of life is definitely happening
My favourite part was having all my hopes and dreams for a Muppet renaissance teased and then mockingly, violently kicked to death by a grown man pretending to be Figment.
Truly magical.
I’m very worried about that Country Bears update because from what they’ve shown it gives off Tiki Room: Under New Management vibes
Bingo!
Don't you remind me of that show.
100% I immediately thought of this when I heard about it. Hopefully there will be a mysterious fire that gives us back the original 😂
@@icedvanillaoatcappuccino not the mysterious fire 😂
So many have said basically this. Lol I wasn't concerned until I started listening to you guys. Let's just hope it's just freshly redone in ways we haven't thought of.
It wouldn’t surprise me if ALL of “beyond Thunder Mountain” is villains themed. During the blue sky thing that they did last year, villains got the loudest applause.
Yeah, a villain theme will be soooo cool!!!
You really think they care about what the people paying thousands of dollars to come to their parks think? The villains deserve their own gate, which disney will never do.
There is no beyond Thunder Mountain happening.
The one problem I have with South America is a general problem of Disney World: a lack of original ideas. Imagine if we got an attraction based on ziplining through the jungles of Costa Rica, or a lush jungle boat ride through the Amazon. These would really make me like the area and not just think, “Now I want to ride Everest or go to the Maharajah jungle trek more.”
sooooo Jungle Cruise?
@@LPM12 I guess similar to jungle cruise, or the much more superior LIVING WITH THE LAND. To avoid a lot of similarities though, I figured it would focus more on the biodiversity of the Amazon rather than the environment of living with the land or the exploration aspect of Jungle Cruise. Though I bet those aspects could be incorporated.
Also the odd connotation of Latin American people-oriented IPs being used in Animal Kingdom still feels off to me. Unlike Up, in which animals are very much a main part of the plot and it happens in Venezuela, Coco and Encanto are not animal-oriented movies at all. The only way I see this working out is if the attractions focus on the animals of the stories (Alebrijes for Coco and perhaps Antonio’s gift for Encanto) instead the stories themselves. And Indy I mean… he doesn’t really fit much with the concept either way so that’s a whole different story.
@@noeldetoledo8345 In Encanto, you could remove almost any of the animals in the movie that don’t serve a crucial role in the plot, it would remain the same. I get that it’s a very popular movie from recent Disney, but it would make more sense with Beyond Big Thunder Mountain or even a Columbia pavilion in World Showcase. What I’m saying in this post is that I’m very passionate about Disney World.
@@BrianCannan-em1nk I absolutely agree with you! Sorry if my comment didn’t come through that way, lol. I was adding to the idea of simply throwing this seemingly random IPs in just doesn’t come through as genuine. They could be playing it much more complex and original and they’re not, they’re throwing IPs at things and hoping they stick.
The likely hood of Indy at Animal Kingdom being a “better” version of Disneyland is super unlikely. Dinosaur is way smaller in scale show building wise then Indy despite a good chunk of the layout being very similar. In fact, most of Dinosaur is separated by thin walls and curtains. Whatever it ends up being, it will definitely be a different experience so I’m curious to see what imagineering does with these new limitations.
When Encanto comes to AK, have it focus on Antonio's room. Maybe it can be like a roller coaster type of ride where Guests are riding on a jaguar, similar to what Antonio did or have it focused on Antonio explaining about his animal friends. Even though Indiana Jones is my favorite ride in Disneyland, I don't get why it's coming to AK. His movies are usually around adventures. I'm glad Indy will be getting his ride in WDW though.
When I saw Encanto my first thought was that Casita was tailor-made to become a trackless dark ride along the lines of Mystic Manor. But I wasn't sure where to *put* it--my first thought was a new Colombia pavilion at Epcot.
Well, both the fertility idol of the first movie (the one with the rolling boulder) and the crystal skull temple were in South America (Peru and Brazil respectively). They can easily theme it around it.
We don't want that
If you have the same thought you are not a Disney fan
Encanto doesn't belong in any Disney theme park and when I take over, I will make sure it's kept out and its fans are treated like King George treated the colonists. Real Disney fans would rather have ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter.
I think the key word for their approach is "careless". The IP comes before the theme, they decide what's going where and then concoct a justification after the fact. They had a new Haunted Mansion movie come out, so let's add something to the Mansion. It's cheap and easy to clone a decade-old animatronic, but we don't have anywhere to put him. So just slap him wherever and type up a blurb to explain away why he's there despite it not fitting with the story. Just put anything anywhere, who cares. Dinosaurs are objectively a vital part of Animal Kingdom's theme and identity, but Indiana Jones and Encanto sell more merch. They're looking for a Dinoland replacement and these are some brands that would make for a fairly straightforward overlay, but Encanto and Indy have nothing to do with animals, so let's justify their inclusion by making a South America section (despite Indy films only going to South America in the beginning of Raiders and the latter half of Crystal Skull). The question wasn't "what is Animal Kingdom missing" or "how could we expand upon this theme", it was "how do we justify putting IP into this park without being totally transparent in just wanting a Frankenstein collage of recognizable things for people to buy".
Hell why not put Toy Story in Animal Kingdom too, and justify it with a Southwestern US section themed to Woody's Roundup? Think of how much merch you could sell, it'd be like having two Toy Story Lands at once!
You've hit the nail on the head. Theming does not matter to them anymore, and neither does quality. Imagine instead of a stupid Guardians Themed ride in EPCOT... which is the stupidest concept ever, we have the ride be centered around the Big Bang in a more educational way.
The queue could be an observatory for scientists studying space and using technology to learn about the past. So through the queue you get information about the big bang. And then when you finally ride the ride, you get to see the big bang happening right in front of your eyes. You can keep literally everything about the ride the same: same track, show building, and props and use it to educate in an extremely entertaining way like EPCOT was designed for post Walt's death.
It's so simple but they're so desperate to make it an IP they missed the perfect EPCOT ride right under their nose.
@@nellucthegreat8615 You could literally retheme Guardians: Cosmic Rewind to just "Cosmic Rewind", with actual information about the Big Bang and the ride would only get better
I’m sad to see dinosaurs as a whole concept leaving animal kingdom. Now 2/3 of the original pitch of animal kingdom has been scrapped. It was supposed to be focused on ANIMALS alive today, extinct, and imaginary (beastly kingdom, although you could argue that’s what Pandora is now)
Now it feels more like animal kingdom is based on geographical continents and IPs in those locations rather than the animals themselves. I wonder if any new live animal exhibits will be included to showcase South American animals. I would rather have seen an entire dinoland reimagining, but I understand why they’re going in the direction they are.
Yea I get the chance but I’m disappointed that all the attractions will be IP based and likely lose dinosaurs. My wish was always to turn it into South America to go along with Africa and Asia. There are lots of fossils there so they could keep dinosaur and the paleontology aspect of the vineyard but revamp the rest, and then turn dinorama area into Amazon themed with an animal trek and a river ride.
I agree that Disney's exclusive focus on IPs has been bad for the parks. However, I think Indiana Jones can easily be a good platform to introduce animals and animal exhibits. This area is going to be focused on South America which is a region we've seen Indie go several times. They can easily incorporate animals such as spider monkeys, jaguars, crocodiles and caimans (in fact the only true animal exhibit in Dinoland is an American Crocodile), capybaras, and a host of other animals that would fit both in DAK and with an Indiana Jones theme. Plus they would absolutely need to feature SNAKES!!! I mean that is a given.
The African and Asian areas are both animal focused AND focused on human culture and it works very well. If they approach South America in a similar way but add in Indiana Jones exploring the area on some quest while encountering the local flora and fauna ;) then it would work quite well in my opinion.
Its better than what we were getting last year at least. it is sad that we are losing the dinos but south america is a fair trade
@@zacg_i think it would also be interesting to implement some sort of educational elements about ancient civilizations. perhaps this could rope in some tie with a connection to nature or something.
Maybe not a real ancient civilization but perhaps a fictional one taking inspiration from various real civilizations like the incans and the mayans
I believe that Disney noticed the enormous reaction to the "villains land" reveal and relocated encanto to make more space for it. I also believe the Zootopia attraction was changed to be less themed around police. The original attraction looked a lot like the police chase ride coming to shanghai and the new tree of life show seems much less conflict oriented and the promo image didn't show Judy in her police attire.
I'm also curious if this Indiana Jones ride will actually be entirely different and incorporate animals somehow, even Dinosaurs. It calls to mind the first level of the OG tomb raider game where an ancient temple gives way to an isolated cave system with still living dinosaurs. I'd really like to see a new concept instead of a direct copy.
Indy with dinosaurs would be pretty sweet!
They could theme it Quetzalcoatl the Feathered serpent or Tezcalipoca the Jaguar god.
One way I think Indiana Jones could fit is if they go with "The Lost World" by Arthur Conan Doyle which has adventures discover living dinosaurs in South America. That way you'd still have the whole "extinct animals" part covered.
Sort of, "Indiana Jones & Dr. Watson In The World That Time Forgot"!
It would also be cool to have an ancient civilization with connections to nature. Not a real one, but perhaps one that takes elements from a variety of south American ancient civilizations like the incans and the mayans
Indiana Jones instead of Lara Croft like in the original game?
My first thought!!! (Besides "nooooooooooooooo")
i hope they have a figure of indy fightin with a dinosaur like ellen’s universe of energy lol
Just putting this out there but…
Tropical America does technically mean the emperor’s new groove attraction could happen a bit easier now.
I will believe any of these announcements when I see actual completed attractions
may we have a moment of silence for Dinoland, and the fact that now multiple creatures on the Animal Kingdom logo serve zero purpose along with two of the three heads on the front gates. And please, Dallin. You know as well as any of us that Disney doesn't give a single solitary crap about "the theme/purpose of what the park was intended to be". I'd guess not too long from now that all the animals will be gone and it'll just be IP rides set from movies taking place in "generalized" or even imaginary locations...
I'm really stoked for the trash can repaints!!
5 points and a star on the Mystery Dartboard for you! Superlative!
@@michaelsullivan3581 🤣
If you ask me, a lot of the presentation was bad in my eyes. Only announcements that got my slight interest was the Indiana Jones land and Test Track retheme. Imma say this as a massive Indy fan, who really wishes we (WDW) could have the temple ride over here, I don’t think Indy is a good fit for Animal Kingdom. Don’t even get me started on Encanto. Zootopia I don’t think is a very good fit either, but it does kinda, sorta, not really, make sense.
The Test Track retheme I’m willing to give a shot because apparently they’ll reference World of Motion, which would be cool, and in my eyes, they should change out that weird digital Tron thing they’re going for with 2.0.
Other announcements either made me roll my eyes, like the Country Bear rework, or just got no reaction from me at all. It also felt like a lot of the presentation was just fluff from D’Amaro and the Muppets, which even tho I’m not a Muppet enthusiast myself, I feel bad for the Muppets fans that pretty much got nothing in the end. A lot of the announcements were just things we heard before too, with like a single vague update. Overall, pretty poor presentation in my eyes, I seriously don’t understand how some people see this presentation as better than last years…
Yeah... five minutes of actual info and 55 minutes of fluff and "look what I can do", per hour, is not a real production, now is it. C'mon Disney, we wants more than a Dog & Pony Show!
genuinely so exciting to hear that the test track retheme is so clearly inspired by an old school part of disney theme parks, rather than just a few nods and easter eggs. gives me a bit of hope that we might see more investment in what makes the parks the parks, rather than just trying to slot in whichever ip is trendy (which in turn can cause issues, since these big projects take YEARS to make). obviously folks who love the old school theme parks make up only a small part of the total audience disney is looking to draw in, but i think there's something very valuable to finding something that is more inherently evergreen without the need for a movie tie-in.
I trust Chevy to make something that people actually get hyped for and stays with the original spirit of Epcot than I trust Disney to make anything worthwhile and in the spirit of Animal Kingdom at Dinoland.
I was hoping they would announce something for Journey into imagination. That ride needs a huge refurb
I have a feeling it will play out more or less like this -
4 years from now: "Here's your new retheme consisting of mostly nods and easter eggs, sorry we couldnt go all out, our budget was cut do to our own demise altho we're gonna blame it all on you. Plus World of Motion is somehow now considered racist or sexist or ableist, take your pick. Oh wait nevermind, it was all of the above, but hey look at that, we changed the lights, painted things fancy new colors, the vehicles go .5mph faster, and we put up fake trees and foliage and a reskin of some crappy animal animatronic we had lying around so it makes you feel like your outside when you're actually inside, how cool is that!?"
Disgruntled Disney Fans: Errr, thanks I guess.... 'kicks tire'
Diehard Disney Fans: THIS IS THE GREATEST DAY OF MY LIFE, DISNEY CAN DO NO WRONG! 'shut up and take my money meme'
I just hope new test track has the original hot and cold element of the original. Maybe they're testing the car in different environments like offroad(woods like the concept art), snow(cold), desert(hot). That'd be interesting
I just don't understand how they are going to shoe-horn Zootopia into the Tree of Life. I hope they don't do anything horrible to that beautiful work of art.
Would rather tree of life got an illuminations like night show. A night show that stands as an overall thesis on the park and it’s theming, complimenting the park beautifully with imagery of different ecosystems, animals, even cultures to an extent.
But no, go with the anthropomorphic animals that won an Oscar :/
It would be great if the Zootopia characters just acted as hosts for a film that was about real animals & conservation
Here’s what I think (in my opinion) should be the way Disney replaces Dinoland: bring Tokyo Disneysea’s Journey to the Center of the Earth and 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. Regardless if 20,000 Leagues should be the Tokyo version or the old submarine ride we used to have in the states, it still thematically makes sense, since it can cover the creatures of the ocean. Meanwhile with Journey to the Center of the Earth, it could still fit the Animal Kingdom by replacing the lava monster with dinosaurs, and maybe be about the evolution of animals by having the creature we encounter vastly different than what dinosaurs we usually see. It still makes more sense than the Madrigal house, which worked much better in the Magic Kingdom, since the house had, well, magic
Given that the areas in Animal Kingdom are also supposed to be celebrating the cultures of the regions, an Encanto attraction/area in "Equatorial America" makes sense. And I guess you can stretch that to Indy with the whole thing being in a South American ruin? I'm looking forward to lots of Western Hemisphere animals though--Capyberas!
As for the Muppets, I saw someone mention that they could have been stand-ins for striking actors who would otherwise appear. Puppeteers have their own union (and I'm not sure it's a closed shop), so that could be why we saw Muppets so much.
At first I was pissed about Dinoland USA going away. But on second thought, they have a point. It’s always felt like a pop-up carnival, a temporary thing.
Dinoland USA should still remain intact and still focus on dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures!
My favorite was how Primeval Whirl was set up on pavement that had parking space markings. I _know_ that's the theme and probably was specifically designed like that but you can see that at your local homecoming carnival.
@@enzodiscoverymoonlight The problem with Dinoland representing a pop-up carnival is much the same as Paradise Pier over in Disneyland CA representing a local boardwalk. It lacks fantastical immersion by simply representing what already exists (usually, for much cheaper - outside of the thousands of dollars necessary for a Disney World trip). The crowds get drawn in by being pulled in to *another world*, take the success of the Wizarding World (Universal), Cars Land (Disneyland CA), Galaxy's Edge, and the World of Avatar. It's Disney's Imagineering bread and butter, and where the parks are at their strongest in terms of the Magic™.
Now, I don't agree with the plan that Disney went with over at California Adventure to retheme Paradise Pier to Pixar Pier. It ended up lacking significant immersion ("Pixar" is too broad, ends up unfocused), while it did succeed in making the land less "generic boardwalk". I would've much preferred one of the blue sky concepts to transform it into a Victorian-era atmosphere through and through.
It would've worked much better, in my opinion, to provide significant immersion into "another time and place", in keeping with how California Adventure sets itself up with Buena Vista Street as a look back at California's "golden era" of the arts, from when Walt Disney first arrived in it. Not only that, but Disney magic imbued into a Victorian boardwalk is simply not an experience you can get elsewhere.
So the question with Dinoland becomes - "what is an experience this area can provide that a guest cannot get elsewhere?" because a local carnival can be obtained in a thousand other places.
Yes, Dinoland USA should go, but Dinoland shouldn't. There's a very big distinction there.
I propose a DISNEY 2015 PROJECT. If the company could reinstitute all of the wonderful value that used to be found in the parks, like in 2015, it would be celebrated by everyone!
I'd take it much further back, more like a DISNEY 1955 PROJECT
@@RxYouth I wouldn't go that far. While I'm sure there are plenty of great rides that got replaced by 2015 such as The original Journey Into Imagination and many like it, you are asking for no Journey Into Imagination in the first place. No EPCOT, Animal Kingdom, Magic Kingdom, and no Hollywood Studios/MGM. That is overall asking for less, I would never want that. 2015 is probably where I would say Disney peaked in popularity and quality. Now that doesn't mean every idea was great or done with artistic desire as opposed to just wanting money. But many of the good rides were still in tact. The environment was still fun and light. The parks had sufficient employees. The Magic Bands were implemented (one of my favorite updates in recent years). And you weren't required to go on your phone all the time. Overall it was a great time for Disney even though they were slowly going down the path we are trying get off of now.
1955 is too far back and one could argue 2015 is too far into their downfall. But either way I think we can all agree at least out of the three of us, the parks need a big change
Dinosaur -> Indy would be a great retheme, transforming Dinoland from a tourist trap into the actual explorable archaeological dig (which was already the other half of Dinoland) where they can still have dinosaur skeletons and a playground to keep the "animal" theme but also blend with Indiana Jones. Encanto needs to be a Mystic Manor retheme where you ride moving furniture through Casita and the music _slaps._
Encanto being a rethemed version of Mystic Manor is a brilliant idea
Honestly don't think that Disney wants any thing big to open in 2025. I think they have something up there sleeve for after Epic opens. They are going to want that BIG BANG to draw the crowds back to them from Universal. If it works all depends on the out come of what epic really does. Its deff a wonderful time to cover the parks and to be a huge theme park fan. We are fans of both Disney and Universal, so reality is... yes we are hyped for Epic, but also hyped for the low crowds at Disney during this time. Let the good times roll!
Here’s my list of ideas for Disney’s Animal Kingdom:
- a Fully-Realized Beastly Kingdom (a fully-realized and newly-revived Beastly Kingdom land for Disney’s Animal Kingdom in the plot of Pandora)
- a Relocated Pandora (a newly relocated version of Pandora adjacent to the fully-realized Beastly Kingdom)
- Australia (a new section located adjacent to Asia)
- South America (a new section located adjacent to Africa)
- Camp Critter (a North America themed section for Disney’s Animal Kingdom adjacent to the Planet Watch section)
- a Creature Carnival section Adjacent to Camp Critter (also adjacent to the Planet Watch section)
- some carousels with different animals
- more dinosaur themed attractions for Dinoland
- an Asian water dragon coaster for the Asia section
- a Jungle Book dark ride
- a Lion King dark ride and a Lion King themed carousel for the Africa section
- a Tarzan jungle coaster for the Africa section
- a Zootopia show in the Camp Critter section
- new Theater in the Wild for Discovery Island
…Aaaand NONE of them will come true. Because money.
@@TacoEX1 DANG IT!
These ideas have to come true!
Disney should hire you
@@TacoEX1 Some will come true after my takeover of Disney and when usher in the Make Disney Great Again era.
I wished they had announced more things for the Disneyland Resort. I guessing the reason they didn't was almost everything from D23 last year is basically already there.
Encanto does make sense in Animal Kingdom more so than Avatar. You enter the Casita and thru Antonio’s door you enter a trail like Gorilla Falls with South American animals. You enter Isabela’s door and you have a living with the land like attraction with the flora of South America. So it could fit.
I’m very respectful of opinions, but I apologize when I say the first sentence alone made me roll on the floor laughing 😂 I think Avatar shouldn’t have worked, but somehow, it actually did. I see absolutely no way as to how Encanto could work, other than the very small minor character with the gift. Encanto is a very human story, has next to nothing to do with animals, and would just be very poor IP implementation imo. At least Avatar had a fictional world interesting enough with its creatures.
A South America land literally does not need any IP, a simple Amazon river ride, canoe ride, or other things with no IP can work just as well. I do still respect your opinion, but just, just no…
Ok but these are only 2 rooms that fit. Now what about the rest of the family?
@@luma4902 expect for Bruno’s tower we haven’t seen the other rooms and the Casita was rebuilt so we don’t know what is inside the new one.
Avatar is literally about nature and conservation. Encanto really doesn’t make sense unless the entire attraction is about Antonio
I'm just about convinced modern disney is incapable of producing original attractions for their theme parks anymore (i.e. Pirates of The Caribbean, Haunted Mansion...etc.)
Everything has to be based on some existing IP and shoved down everyone's throats in order to sell merch
And when I get my hands on Disney and usher in the Make Disney Great Again era, anything new will not have any IP attachment and merch sales will be an afterthought. Everything will be done by asking "What would Walt do?" even if that means bringing back old attractions like they never left and results in stagnant parks stuck in the 1970s.
The days of original attractions are over. Don’t get your hopes up for it ever again. Disney is a creatively bankrupt company these days, and if they can’t sell IP merch, they won’t do it.
@@josephbrown9685 Wrong. Those days are hibernating and will return after Disney is taken over and the Make Disney Great Again movement brings back the "What would Walt do?" way of thinking.
@@stanfordite1 Sure. Keep living in fantasyland if it helps you feel better about Disney. That way of thinking isn’t coming back.
@@josephbrown9685 I'm speaking to you from the year 2055. It IS back. In the future we can speak to people in the past including our past selves. And yes I took Disney over and made it great again. Disney has been broken up, Marvel is gone and so are Star Wars and Pixar. The parks are also private members only clubs for purists only.
Dang! That was a quick turnaround from yesterday! Nice job!
i just wanted to meet kermit in the parks man. at least bring back beaker meet and greets
So, all they have to do is make the Indy ride have a lot to do with snakes etc. Boom, there's your animal connection. Encanto? Perhaps a ride that goes through the door that leads to all the animals. Pow, that just happened. These things all work in MY mind!
These are actually good ideas that fit. I would be fine with them. My problem is putting the whole casita attraction on Animal Kingdom when most of the family madrigal has nothing to do with animals or even nature.
They should put Frozen in Animal Kingdom too, since Sven is an animal.
Chewbacca is NOT an animal!
They better not mess with Indiana Jones! These Disney people are out of touch with what people want!
My biggest disappointments:
- the Dinoland reimagining, much like the 2022 D23 Expo presentation
- no updates for the Magic Kingdom beyond Big Thunder Mountain expansion
- no attraction announcements for World Showcase at Epcot
- no announcements for a possible Muppets attraction
- other disappointments
I know before COVID happened they had the operation blue sky at Epcot. i think it safe to say that is all gone but they did talk about updating spaceship Earth. do you think that update is gone, or will it come back at some point?
So China gets to have an ENTIRE LAND of Zootopia… and Florida gets a stage show. And they’re also getting rid of DINOSAUR, one of the last GOOD rides at the resort.
I like Disney, but I think you should also visit universal,especially the park they’re currently building.
Same. Really like Disney, but adore Universal personally.
The concept art for Indy in Animal Kingdom looks like they may fashion it after the Indy ride at Tokyo Sea rather than California. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is set in Peru, so that would work with the South American re-theme...
Disneysea’s attraction is not based on the movie, the attraction came our earlier than the movie and has nothing to do with it.
If they give Indiana Jones to Animal Kingdom, I won't be mad. Dinosaur is nice, and I love the ride system. I'll admit, it's currently a little dated, but I loved every second of it when I went.
I strangely think animal kingdom might be my favorite disney park. I always think back on disney parks and this one stands out as just having a more chill vibe that doesn't feel like the other disney parks. I wonder if it still would be my favorite not having the dinosaur ride I can get on every five minutes. That's probably what makes it for me
Disney is the only company that can get away with announcing “potential ideas” to investors and customers. If a company like Sony went up on stage during E3 or Summer Game Fest and announced a massive list of video games that could POTENTIALLY be in development for PlayStation (but they’re not yet because reasons), their investors would jump ship so fast it would make the CEOs head spin.
The Test Track retheme is a big win, and Tropical Americas is a big improvement over both the previous idea and Dinoland, though it does still feel like they're limiting their own creativity with the IP mandate. But my biggest takeaway from this year is that Disney really doesn't have anything significant lined up to compete with Epic Universe. I don't know if that's because they think they're untouchable, they don't have the money because the parks money is being sucked up by the financial issues elsewhere in the company, or some mix or both. But whatever it is, this was pretty much the last year for them to announce something and have it open by 2025, unless they're holding something back, so yeah, Disney isn't prepared. Epic Universe is gonna be a hit in 2025 and they're just gonna let it come and sweep up more of their marketshare.
note that the Indiana Jones in Tokyo DisneySea is themed to an Aztec temple, which would be possibly more similar (Aztec temples being in Mexico though which is still "North" America but Tropical)
I keep hoping for a remodel of the Imagination Pavilion.
What are the chances the Dinosaur animatronics will go into the prehistoric scene of test track?
I'm on the fence about the Country Bears Jamboree. This attraction is a core memory for me, all be it the California one but that one is gone so I visit the one in Florida every year. Now I'll have to go to Japan.
Really loved the idea of the Pirates of the Caribbean themed lounge in Florida if definitely go, (I know it was more of testing footage for a future experience/attraction) and some of the Blue Sky ideas they presented and one of them was something Doctor Strange, I’m wondering what it is exactly cause it looked pretty cool!
Don’t expect Disney to actually do any major US theme park expansions anytime soon. You’re getting your hopes up for nothing. They have financial and creativity issues for the foreseeable future.
In Mk i would love to see a cars land at the back of big thunder mountain, I think the mountains would work well as a back drop to the cars experience
The Indiana Jones ride will probably be pretty similar to the Tokyo DisneySea version, as that one is also set in south america and has a large temple exterior.
I hope they keep the car creator in test track
I really want to keep dinoland. But adding Indiana Jones to that area would be great.
Replace Chester and Hester with more of a digsite with an Indiana Jones coaster and Indiana Jones meet and greet area.
They could even add in American animals to that area like alligators.
watching the vod of your d23 stream was yesterdays highlight for me, it was really fun. my fav part was when you were answering the chat member that suggested garten of banban for AK lmao
I’m very happy about test track retheme!! I desperately miss test track 1.0 every day and honestly I think anything would be better than 2.0, but the fact that they’re looking into referencing world of motion makes me happy. Disney seems to be hyper aware that fans have nostalgia for old epcot (for better or for worse, who knows) so I’m curious to see what 3.0 will entail.
country bears made me REALLY happy, I’m so glad that that attraction is getting a refresh with new animatronics, I was really worried we would lose them. I know people are worried about “under new management” vibes but the way I see it, it’s so much easier to re-record audio than to retheme something, so in the future maybe they can go back to classic country bears. Those bears needed some love and I’m so glad to hear it
I’m tentatively excited for Indy, dinosaur is one of my most favorite rides and I will be sad to see it go (dr. seekers campy lines during the ride are truly what make it for me) but Indy is objectively better as a ride experience and dinosaur is in dire need of a refresh. I’m aware that he doesn’t fit the theme of the park but I feel like Disney has unfortunately long stopped caring about that, look at hollywood studios… anyway Indy is the best, easiest, and (hopefully, although we all know how Disney is) quickest update for that ride.
Wish they didn’t talk so much about the international parks, I mean I would love to travel to them but the domestic parks are truly where a lot of our hearts are
It’s time to get Walt out of Cryo sleep
Disney is in a sleeper hold, feeling warm and fuzzy, while they go unconscious thinking that "It's all gud bruh"
Indiana Jones has a big snake in it
I knew that the Avengers Multiverse Attraction would get mentioned!!! Nice that the ride vehicle will mix technology from Stark, Wakanda, and Xandar so yeah those of you who thought Cosmic Rewind wasn't canon to Avengers Campus I advised you to redo your homework.
Test Track 3.0 looks pretty interesting. I think they're trying to do a modern take on the attraction but for them to reference "inspiration from World of Motion" I'm just like "YES DO IT." Current Test Track is still doing ok but I think the interactive technology is kinda starting to show its age but if they can make it better than I'm down for this update. BUT IF THEY TOUCH THE SEMI TRUCK I'M GONNA GET ANGRY!🤨
Love the Pirate's Tavern concept but obviously the big takeaway.............THE BARKER PARROT IS RETURNING!!!
Finally World Celebration will be wrapping up and I can't wait to see the Walt Disney statue at Dreamer's Point.
And lastly the noticable DRAGON in the room. Not to say I was disappointed that there was no mention of a ride revamp/replacement (although I am) but at least HE showed up and the meet and greet has started. But hopefully, this could allow Disney to save that big announcement for D23 next year........or not, yeah we just don't know.
I would personally love to see the land of Thunder Mesa Put Into The Beyond Big Thunder Concept. This Land was always meant to be apart of the park and I believe it would make a perfect fit to expand frontierland. With Thunder Mesa Going Beyond Big Thunder They Could Have It That The Original Frontierland Is Renamed To A New Orleans Area And Hear Me Out, Now Where Thunder Mesa And Big Thunder Are They Could Make A New Frontier Land And Make It Better Than What It Is Now!!
14:19 I really like Test Track 2.0 too! I just love the Test Track ride in general. It might be also because of having gone on Racers so many times at DCA, where I like the ride system, and enjoy the ride a lot!
I'm also most excited about the re-theme of Test Track, by far! As for Dinosaur being rethemed to Indiana Jones, I actually think it will take more inspiration from Tokyo DisneySea's version rather than Anaheim's. That ride already takes place in a South/Central American themed area and has a very similar temple façade as the one shown in the new concept art.
mad hyped i got to meet you at the parks last month! was too nervous to ask for a pic but glad i got to tell you i love your content in person
I doubt they would do it, but I would really like them to add another walking path to see animals like they have in Africa and Asia. It would assist with the theming of the park as a whole.
Yeah, Epic Universe is gonna kick all these rides’ butts.
Disney’s Animal Kingdom should be fixed up with Dinoland remaining intact and fixed up to still focus on dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures and with new lands added themed to Australia and South America in new expansion plots as well as a fully-realized and revived Beastly Kingdom concept along with a relocated Pandora!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Test Track got a rename to Test Track:World of Motion
I like this news. I hope the beyond big thunder starts new, otherwise we won't be seeing it until at least '28
This South America expansion sounds AMAZING! I expect to be let down, but here are some ideas that just popped in my mind:
1. New Indiana Jones attraction where Indie enlists our help to protect a Mayan temple from a N@zi raid, and the temple is guarded by the legendary Quetzalcoatl (a feathered serpent/dragon!) Bring Dragon Tower back with a beloved IP spin and a more original dragon design!!
2. Encanto attraction where it's a themed jaguar coaster, going through Casita and ultimately enjoying all the animal friends in Antonio's room
3. The Emperor's New llama encounter (literally just a petting zoo full of llamas with a TENG flare)
4. A port of the "lost temple" ride from Hong Kong based off Kuzco's palace
5. If this area is connected to any kind of Zootopia expansion, the greeter/ticket taker should be Flash, since sloths come from South America
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, if any of these become a thing, even just the petting zoo!
Here's what Disney should be doing for Disney's Animal Kingdom:
1) They should replace the Dino-Rama section of Dinoland USA with attractions themed to the Ice Age Franchise
2) They should be utilizing the free area of land located between Asia & Rafiki's Planet Watch for South America
3) They should have a Zootopia attraction in Rafiki's Planet Watch instead of replacing It's Tough To Be A Bug
4) If they don't follow through with #1 & #2, then they should utilize the free area of land located between Asia & Rafiki's Planet Watch for a new Prehistoric/Extinct-Themed Land
Disney doesn’t own ice age
@@frodolives6671yes they do , they own 20th century fox, just like with avatar
Honestly I’m the most excited about the Country Bear update and I know I’m in the minority on this one. I adore the CB but let’s be honest that show has been limping on for years and I would rather them do this than get rid of them completely. They need some TLC and I’m glad they are finally getting it.
As for Indy and Encanto coming to AK, I like that idea a LOT better than Zootopia. It makes more sense in my opinion. Of course I would have preferred they revamp and expand Dinoland but I think they probably did not want to compete with Universal on the whole dinosaur land thing. Is it perfect? No, but I think it’s better than a cityscape theme like Zootopia. I mean let’s face it, we Disney fans tend to complain about changes but most of the time we end up loving it anyway once it’s done 😆
And the pirates themed lounge?! A slam dunk and I can’t wait until it’s open 👏🏻
Emperor's New Groove would be fun for Animal Kingdom . He is Afterall an animal
I’m hoping for another set of trek exhibits if South America section is official. While South America is known for the Amazon, i hope we get to see other habitats (grasslands, deserts,etc.)
Disney is asking us to be happy with bread CRUMBS. Tiny enhancements here or there to make it seem like they're doing something big *eventually*. Enough is enough. I'm going to stop hoping for anything and turn to Universal who is ACTUALLY putting out hit after hit. Disney had rested on its laurels for far too long!
When they added the hatbox ghost in Anaheim they built a whole new show scene. It’s clear WDW didn’t want to spend the money so they just stuck him in a free corner in a preexisting show scene. Lame
I mean, it has been about 10 years since Test Track was updated, which falls in line with Disney's mandate for the Epcot sponsors where they required them to pay for refurbs every decade, so makes sense why we're seeing 3.0 rear its head
I think Disney is waiting till Epic Universe is open before dropping a cash value on Byound Thunder Mountain.
Coco should move to the Mexico pavilion, they should make the ride bigger and will give a good education on what Day of the Dead means in their culture.
Disney keeps talking about going full steam with Disney World, but we've yet to see it. Would love it if it's true this time around.
pretty much every disney park has lost its personal identity these days and it is sad to see. Indiana Jones has absolutely zero business being located in Animal Kingdom. It used to be that rides had to fit in the overall theme of the parks they're in, but that has all but been thrown out of the window. Why is there a Marvel ride sitting in the middle of Epcot? How in the world is there a whole Star Wars land in the OG Disneyland? What is Moana doing in Epcot Future World? None of it makes any sense at this point and every park has more or less lost its identity in some parts. The problem is shoving IP into every. single. new. attraction. That is the biggest issue with Disney parks at this point. I really wish some of these bigger Disney parks-based channels on here would actually speak up and call Disney out on their dumb moves, but unfortunately most of them will never question anything Disney does. Disney can do no wrong in the eyes of most of these types of channels and that is only going to serve to make the problem bigger. Every park has just been turned into cheap IP dumps where any ride can go in any park, regardless of if it makes any sense to begin with. It needs to be called out because it is only going to get worse.
If the Hatbox Ghost diarama will take up that whole area, to the left of the Endless Hallway, doubt if the face/duck chair will completely disappear. It is one of those original items, going way back to the Museum of the Weird. Since it’s not animated, it could easily fit in the Attic? Or squeeze it into the Library? Or wherever?
I think Encanto makes sense in Animal Kingdom bc Antonio can be the main character. It surprisingly makes more sense than Zootopia
I think the most interesting thing about the presentation was Test Track. Absolutely love that ride and I’m happy seeing it get a fresh coat of paint. Everything else was fine. I wish we got a little bit more concrete announcements instead of the blue sky stuff because it does get a tad annoying seeing the plans change from one presentation to the next. However, we also get to see some cool concept art that we would normally not see so that’s a plus for Disney. Also I do feel like we’re pretty darn close to an official announcement as I would think Disney would want something to at least officially be there to combat Epic Universe (even if it takes another 5 years for it to open). If not this part could be just being like “hey Universals got stuff coming, well we got stuff coming too”. Thing that caught my eye the most was the muppets. Kinda theorizing, but I feel like we could be close to getting something muppets related. It’s no coincidence that we’ve been getting the restaurants in the park plus the Disney Plus series, so maybe this could lead to something. Especially considering they were on stage, that could definitely be a tease, maybe testing how fans like the brand. Or it could just be filler and in that case I’d be sad because Muppets content in the park would be great. So overall decent enough considering the scale. I don’t think we’re going to get anything huge until next year.
When World of Motion became Test Track I was disappointed and thought they should still focus on the History of Transportation while making it a thrill ride. I was glad they updated it to make it look more futuristic. I hope they don't disappoint and make it better. I am disappointed they aren't upgrading Spaceship Earth, yet. But your explanation is satisfying.
What if the new Indiana ride used the dial of destiny in some crazy retcon way to keep the dinosaur time travel aspect of the ride? Idk maybe that wouldn’t really work he’s an archeologist not a paleontologist.
Talking about Animal Kingdom, don’t you think that over the last 17 years since Expedition Everest opened that the technology and stronger, lighter, and flexible materials have been created so they could (potentially) competently replace Disco Yeti with a significantly lighter (in weight) stronger version
Great coverage. Still bummed about the Muppets
Who LOVES the Muppets?
We do!
You want MORE MUPPETS??
YEEEESSSS!!!
Well then, here’s Figment!
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Jungle Cruise is in desperate need of some fun-maxxing. They need to engineer a drop or two, some new animatronic dad jokes, etc.
Another reason for Test Track’s rehab is because General Motors’ marketing has shifted towards production of election vehicles. As soon as I saw the GM logo change in early 2021, I knew that a rehab was soon to follow. Plus, CEO Mary Barra is on the Disney board.
5:56 That ELO reference was so smooth I almost missed it! 😁
One major reason for delay in certain announcements is new Reedy Creek government. They can no longer guarantee fast track of applications.
I thought it was interesting that they said the Magic Kingdom expansion was about to be going into "Overdrive". I wonder if this was a subtle hint about radiator springs coming to the area behind Big Thunder. The rockwork would definitely blend in and add to the area. With the move of Encanto over to Animal Kingdom, I think this would be a logical option. I haven't seen anybody mention this theory yet. I would love to know your thoughts.
I was thinking that too! Cars Land makes the most sense and would be so fun.
it would be cool but i would rather have something totally new
Have a controversial item on your hands? Put the Muppets in there to divert the issue and soften the blow, problem solved!
The main question I have is not if but WHEN the original Dinoland USA will be closed for construction. I’m going to Disney World late January next year and I don’t wanna miss out on Dinosaur. Last time I went to Disney was 20 years ago and I never got to go on, despite my absolute love for dinosaurs.
What is the background music playing in the background in the first few minutes of the video? I have been looking for that song for years.
Make no mistake. The reason Spaceship Earths referbishment/redesign has not happened and is not slated too at the moment exclusively because it's money Disney doesn't want to spend now. If they had a sponsor for Spaceship earth just like Test Track.
Let’s get a dinosaur Indy crossover where Indy stumbles upon an island where dinosaurs are still living (similar to Kong island)
Does that background song around the 3:00 minute mark have a name? Hear it all the time at the park but don’t know the name.
At least you had one D23 prediction that absolutely came true, no movement on bringing back the Disneyland People Mover.