@@robert-zr1kx This channel is targeting people that see things like that as important. It's kind of a deep topic really. A topic focused primarily on aesthetics.
Mac Address does things in a very Apple-esque fashion: they aren't rushing videos to be the first to market, they take their time and do things... differently. I kinda like it.
Wow, that demonstration of file management on iOS/iPadOS is a perfect example of how frustrating it gets to use those products for work, haha. Love almost everything else about Apple's products though!
that issue on files happens to exactly NOBODY since nobody has all cookies blocked purposefully in the safari settings. the app even fucking tells you what to do - unblock cookies!!!
@@jaiskreno yeah, "nobody" experiences that. Sure does explain why it's documented in the video and someone else that's never talked to this dude before has had the same experience. I guess that's "nobody."
@@tomsaltner3011 Hi, I've having some trouble with using dropbox with ipad pro. I'm a photographer and I tend to transfer hundreds of photos sometimes over a couple of GB or more. I find that when I use any of the cloud service such as dropbox, wetransfer or google drive, it will only transfer a few photos, maybe around 10 or more, and it will get stuck. The only way i can get it to transfer all is to compress all the photos and transfer it and even this only works with dropbox. Since you have been using dropbox, may I ask if you have issues transferring big amount / large file size files using dropbox without compressing them? Thanks!
THANK YOU for mentioning ProRes. Like, I’m into video editing, and the lack of ProRes is actually crazy, especially because they showed off editing multiple streams of full quality 4K ProRes in their MacBook Air keynote … with the same SOC.
This is a pragmatic take, I like it how you ran through the workflows to really make us understand the reason behind the complain of some pro users. Ipad is indeed a complementary content consumption and easy access device. In no way a replacement for a desktop or even a MBP
It does not make the 12.9 iPad a bad purchase though. Many people just want it to replace their laptop and end up hating it... It makes no sense to me. It was never advertised or implied in any way to be a laptop replacement.
@@igorcosta8559 It could be a laptop replacement with conditions. iPad can do 90% of the things most people do with their laptop, but that 10% left is where laptop shine. If that 90% is you then it can replace laptop, if that 10% is you then it can't. It should be easy to understand that iPad can't 100% replace a laptop. It is beyond me that people take ads so literally and use ads punchlines as argument. Please just stop doing it.
This is what I want from a Mac channel. Reviews and opinions from a Mac Guy, who isn’t a total fanboy unwilling to highlight issues with the system. I would love a video on older Macs and wether or not they are good daily drivers in 2020
Depends on use case but overall you can find some really great value and (depending on model) reliable machines. This was my experience with them: Bought my 2014 MBP retina for like £600 in early 2017 and it got me through all 3 years of uni for notes, essays, research and the battery somehow managed to be better than new windows laptops my class mates had bought for around the same money, thing would go for 6 hours easily. It handled some premiere and after effects timelines well enough but definitely not a great experience, if you can find one with a dedicated GPU maybe it’d be better but couldn’t tell ya. Used older iMacs can also be really good value ESPECIALLY for basic use, you can get a cheap 21” with a great screen, speakers, mic and -decent- webcam for like £350 and you’ve got yourself a home pc setup that’s stupid simple for your parents/grandparents to use and manage and get most basic work done (got my mom a 2014 imac and gran a 2012 one and suddenly I stopped being a full time IT support rep lol)
2nd the motion! The 10 and 12 core Xeon W iMac Pros in Apple's Scratch & Dent [I mean Refurbished Store] are starting to be more aggressively priced and are still more than competent for my use - pro audio involving very large sample based scoring projects. I'm talking projects that would lock up an i7 iMac with 32Gb of sys. memory.
Some of the reviews for this don't make sense. This ruclips.net/user/postUgkxUGaHtKW8MwCql2fPyIm9-ftTqSMzKFFA works as well as any power strip I've used. Plug in what you need, be sensible about it & keep it movin' The construction is plastic but it's a sturdy piece. It has a single toggle switch & the swivel jacks are useful as well. Plugged in next to Tripp Lite Isobar takes some of these reviews with a pinch of sumthin' - does what it says & functions properly.Had for about a month. Perfect no complaints will update if anything changes.
9:33 That perfectly sums up the iPad. It's only a complement to a workflow, not the center. For devices like the iPad and iPad Air, and maybe even the 11" iPad Pro, that's fine. But for the 12.9" iPad Pro, which has the same power as an iMac and costs roughly the same with all of the accessories, it needs to be able to be the center of the workflow like a traditional computer. What makes that fact infuriating is that Apple can easily make that possible by just tweaking iPadOS to have none of those arbitrary limitations.
The problem is that it would be only possible for iPad Pro M1 and new iPad Air 5 Apple would need to develop 2 different iPad os One that works with A15 and below and one that works only for iPads with M1
it upsets me that Apple is intentionally holding back the stuff you can do with the iPad Pro to keep it from eating into their Mac sales. It is most definitely really interesting to see a discussion on wether the pro moniker is something even worthy of being placed on the iPad Pro and wether it’s pro features can even be taken advantage of. The way I see it it can’t and Apple is doing so on purpose
I'm pretty sure their profit margins are higher on iPads though. I am not sure Apple is intentionally holding back for monetary reasons. I think they're trying to showcase their vision of future computing and are hoping for workflows to change around the tablet as opposed to the other way around. They're trying to change the computing paradigm, as opposed to cater to the existing one.
I fully agree with you here, this is my biggest frustration with Apple as well. I would love to replace my Macbook Pro with an iPad Pro as an all-in-one mobile computer, but as long as I cannot switch from a mobile OS (= iPadOS) to a desktop OS (=MacOS) on the iPad Pro, i will never spend more then $400 on any iPad.
@@MichaelPanneflek I got an M1 iPad Pro 12.9”. It actually serves well for lighter workloads, but as Jonathan showed in the video, the moment you actually need to conduct business with this thing, it will let you down. As more of a creator by hobby, I want to stick around and see just how deep the rabbit hole will go, but even I’m frustrated enough to begin considering a MacBook.
The only real defence I have for Apple is this: The iPad Pro is useful for custom made business application similar to the HoloLens 2. With its camera it can do 3D scanning & it is ideal for AR applications. This will find its use for businesses who use the iPad to train their new staff. Or for real estate company who will use custom software to record a 3D model of a building & can then present it to a customer via the iPad (possibly remotely). This all needs very specific software though and won't be of much use for the average iPad user. For homeuser it would make a great mobile game console but Apple doesn't really support this either.
The channel reminds me of the science videos we used to watch in elementary school. Like that old school editing with shots of nature and calming music between points. I like it.
This was a great video, and something I can actually comment on! I'm someone who uses iPad in a support capacity for work and am not a photo/video guy. I'm a software developer, by trade, and I went with the iPad Pro 11 because the 12.9 felt too big. What I use it for: - Sidecar (Love it) - Software Architecture Design using GoodNotes (Love it) - User Interface Flow Design (Combination of GoodNotes and Adobe XD) - PDF markups for technical documentation (Also GoodNotes) - Code Reviews from the couch - Teams Meetings - Signing Legal Agreements - Document Scanning using the camera - The occasional email (lol) Essentially, ALL of these things can be attained on the base iPad or iPad Air. Bought the pro because of the slightly larger screen from the base iPad and because much of the cost was subsidized by my employer (yay WFH budget!). SplitView is great for reading/watching a video and note-taking at the same time. The option to have a mouse + keyboard case allows me to be relatively productive in a space that I wouldn't want my laptop or can't get to my desktop (I went with the Logitech Slim Folio Pro because of the cheaper price tag and I hate using trackpads and my old MX Anywhere 2 mouse). I graduated from the base iPad and can say I appreciate the little bit of extra screen. You wouldn't think so, but that small screen bump improves the Sidecar experience a good deal. I also like the idea of the camera keeping me in view during meetings where I walk around, at least in theory (haven't used it yet). Essentially, it's a great (premium) device to have as a secondary support buddy during the work hours and after to play and watch stuff on.
I super enjoy the quality and production value (writing and style and cinematography) of these videos I couldn't care any less about Apple products I just enjoy all the hard work you guys put into these Keep it up!
Well done! This is the first review I've found that illustrates problems with iPadOS very well. Everybody else is just like "well it's an iPad, it does iPad things."
This review reminds me so much of the old/good Top Gear car reviews. Entertaining comparisons and impressions with just enough spec talk to get the job done. Nice work!
@@ConorORegan I agree. I still like the other channels, but this one seems more creative then sitting in front of a camera and talking like many LTT videos.
the drive photo transfer issue was a great representation. just recently I had a similar issue, but not even with a cloud service, I just wanted to transfer from sd to iPad and damned i surrendered after two hours of transferring without knowing how long it would need to finish. Another part that got me was the screen size. i actually do kinda regret a tiny little bit buying the 12 inch model because its quite uncomfortable in your hand. i was just so hyped for a big screen coming from an 10 inch ipad.
For the shared folder in Google Drive, you need to tell the owner to give you edit access in order to copy or move the files. This is for any computer, not just the iPad. I think your opinion would've changed slightly if you knew this.
I had the same experience with a high refresh rate. I thought it was stupid until I used an iPad pro on a kiosk and got blown away by how the menu moves.
Goodness, thank you so much for talking about the workflow! I work in film and everyone has an iPad, so when I needed to purchase a device for inventorying and doing paperwork, I bought one, even knowing I'd personally prefer a windows device. It is so cumbersome to use, it's exactly like you described it. I literally spent thirty minutes trying to download an attachment on a non-iCloud email address. It's generally just a painful device to use strictly as a computer, despite its great screen and ease of use with other Apple services.
one of your best videos. the google drive part is SO real… but year after year, ipados gets a little closer to being a laptop replacement, and i have faith it eventually will be one. I already do everything on my ipad if i can because it feels so wonderful.
The M1 chip in the new ipad is basically the way Apple to say: “Bruh, you know how hard to design, create and advertise a freaking revolution ARM chip like this? I’m gonna use the hell out of this!”
Theoretical physics MSc: -Notability (books, notebooks) -TexPad (LaTeX editor for all my papers and assignments 1to1 to the Mac version) -Pythonista and Juno (coding in Python) -and then there's the rest.... Really love this lovely dovely little huge machine.
Downtown San Antonio a year after this video released I was and still am getting 700 mbps down and about 50-70 up. I had no problem doing everything. Watching videos and playing multiplayer games with friends like pubg.
My work is heavily invested in Office 365 and I do field engineering for a software company. The larger iPad pro is great and I leave my macbook at home. I can do presentations, digital whiteboarding, video conferencing, and my work has some nice single-sign-on capabilities implemented so that all my SaaS apps just work with no password required. This allows me a good 95% functionality in a nice slim and not to heavy profile. No more backpacks to lug around, I just hold my iPad when walking around between building at work or out in the field. So for pro business use, it is a good investment, for the most part. I can't stand the smaller screens so its the 13 inch or nothing for me. Also helps that work pays for my iPad, so cost is no concern.
I didn’t understand the HDR. Content but after watching a video on RUclips in HDR, it’s insane. The iPad gets extremely bright and makes it so stunning.
I'm a sound engineer by trade and find that the 12.9" display is really handy when using remote control software for Sound consoles. Having all of the screen space makes it easier to control faders and multi-touch makes it like your in front of the sound desk even though your not.
I use my ipad (2020) for drawing and personal photo editing, or clients of mine, it's fantastic and I love it, nothing from teamwork. But there's no way I'm buying any new ipads down the road if there's no real change in the OS.
We have a few iPad Pros in testing right now for applications we use to manage servers, computers, and resources across the world. Definitely think that it's helpful, but only for the 5G speeds, so we'll probably wait until the Air comes with 5G so it's not as much.
We use the iPad Pro for our field data. Great screen, camera and being able to run LiDAR point cloud data is big. Also the screen makes it very easy to view and redline building plans.
Thank you for your perspective. Every RUclipsr thinks that Pro usecase is just video and photo editing/writing/drawing. THERE ARE OTHER PROFESSIONS TOO!!!
@@tasosjw Unfortunately, to apple and apple users, the only professions that DO exist for apple products ends up being just media (Music, art, writing, photo, video). So if what you do isn't in that list, then you are not a "professional" in the eyes of apple OR an apple user.
I have been a heavy desktop user for a good while now, because I’m part time video editor, and I started another job recently that is less video heavy but more mobile. This iPad is perfect for me for viewing both movies and work videos and remote to my desktop top at home. I also am pretty exclusively IOS filmmaker because I am not much a of a camera guy and more of a post production worker.
Just bought an iPad Pro (my first) for the very specific use of composing music with the apple pencil and reading music and so far I am super happy with it, for professional composers and players I do think the iPad is a truly pro machine, but maybe not for pros in other types of work
I love the style of production of this videos. It's so fresh and different than anything LMG produces. I even think camera and leneses are different. That's amazing. I think this is might be the best LMG channel right now. 100% the artsiest.
The mac address videos always seem more polished and have a calmer vibe to them then other lmg channels. I wish this "style" was replicated onto the other channels. Or it could just be Jonathon's voice that adds the cherry on the cake. No clue...
I'm a student. I've been able to completely replace my workflow with the iPad Pro 11" and the Macbook Pro. I can take all my handwritten notes on the iPad Pro using Apple Pencil and Notability, and features like Universal Control make it super easy to manage spreadsheets, documents, and presentations between the two of them. The center stage camera on the iPad is quite nice for video calls, and the ProMotion makes handwriting feel snappy. Also, the Lidar sensor allows me to experiment with 3D scanning, which is super cool to be able to play around with as a STEM major. Today, I'd probably go for the iPad Air, since it's cheaper and also has the M1 chip, but I don't regret getting the Pro, and it really is invaluable to my workflow.
Im genuinely impressed by this channel's content, both the writing and videography in particular. Great host and beautiful visuals! And I love how different it is from regular LTT, while maintaining that high quality. Love this video! Looking forward to the next one
I really feel like only point of 12.9" iPad is in using it as a portable drawing tablet. I'm in love with M1 performance and it completely replaced my Cintiq, but as Jonathan says, if you're not an artist 11" model just make so much sense.
I'm a musician and I use the ipad pro for two very important purposes where a mac is inferior 1. Composing music on Notion by Presonus on the ipad pro. There is a mac version as well that syncs with the ipad version. The real kicker is being able to handwrite notation in. 2. Sheet Music. I use the app forscore to read pdfs of all my sheet music. Now I dont have to carry many music folders with me. There is even an option to turn pages hands free.
I love my ipad pro with the apple pencil, I use it way more that my laptop every day. I use it for class as a notebook, edit video on Luma fusion, professional photos in lightroom and write my papers on it. I can say getting one really improved my workflow
You’ve probably covered this in newer videos, but I thought it might be useful to put it here. It looks like Pro-Res and other formats are now supported in Lumafusion, although I’ve not tried them myself. Files can be dragged and dropped from Google drive into the files app, not sure what the issue was there. A progress bar is now available for copying files and folders. Apps can now use 12gb, up from 5gb on an iPad Pro.
This is why to me, as a professional violinist, this iPad is the absolute best device. To begin, the 12.9 size is soo good for reading sheet music, having a device in which you can have any sheet music you could think of, and carry a whole ton of concertos, sonatas, solo repertoire, class stuff, etc, and being able to change the page with a foot pedal!? this is already more than enough, and if apple made a bigger not pro ipad maybe I would consider, but then again with this single device, thanks to how powerful it is I can also just plug in my interface and record with garage band my auditions, edit in Luma fusion or rush, take advantage of procreate, and all of them together is a gigantic creative tool, there are even apps for writing sheet music with the apple pencil and it automatically turns it into computer written stuff from your hand!! the m1 does come in to help with of all these, I specially feel it with rush. Also having this new beautiful screen for watching movies, or just random media consumption is amazing, the only device I really use for that, even the whole center stage feature has been helpful for all the online classes I give. And now with quarantine im even playing competitively CODM lol Couldn't be happier with it, 1100 for all of that, I think it's pretty good, and if later we finally get logic and a few other ipad os optimizations will just be beyond perfect.
I liked on a 2020 iPad Pro moments before being told to like if I couldn’t afford one… I just liked the video. It spoke to a lot of the challenges I’ve been having even on the older model.
This is a REALLY good review.. Very well thought out and worth the hours of research I’ve wasted so far, sifting through all the garbage reviews regurgitating specs like a broken record. Nice to see someone breaking that cycle and writing something original. Subscribed. Thank you!!!!
I'm still using my 2016 9.7 inch iPad pro. It may be kind of slow at certain things, but it really doesn't demand an upgrade 5 years later like my previous iPad 2 did. Apple really has gotten their silicone way ahead of everyone else to still feel snappy today.
I just bought a used 2018 ipad pro and its great for school, most of my friends have the air 4th gen and my tablet feels much smoother because of the faster screen
I liked that you guys didn't gloss over the fact that if you have to use Google Drive or One Drive the workflow becomes insane to get the right files where you need them.
This review was better written and levelheaded than most non apple specific channels. I'm really surprised of how much I enjoy this channel's content (given that I don't own a single Apple product). The video looks absolutely fantastic btw (on my Samsung's amoled screen 🤣)
Wow this video really got me thinking. I’ve been perplexed for a while about What is the iPad and iPad Pro. And I think this totally gets it right, it’s a secondary device, for a pro or not, to do some light tasks, or some very specific ones (like with the pencil to do illustrations and design), but it’s not a main device. It acts as accessory, and a tool of luxury for people who want to do those secondary tasks slightly more efficiently or quickly, but it doesn’t replace anything you could with a fully fletched computer. Hence why apple won’t add multi-user built in or better file management, because this you would still do on your “main” device. And apple wants to keep that way on purpose, so that it doesn’t overshadow it’s computers business. Man thanks for making that clear in mind
I’m of the opinion that the 2020 iPad Pro is still fine but the 2021 model is still very cool. I love the A Roll set in this video and the b roll is fantastic
I can't tell which is higher quality: the iPad's screen or the video.
I think the video is the one highlighting the screen quality.
yea really watch only because of the quality of the video, LTTs are lacking a bit compared to MA :D
@@Gellhorn Seriously. MA has had a certain amount of production in every video that LTT doesn't
The video of course.
@@robert-zr1kx This channel is targeting people that see things like that as important. It's kind of a deep topic really. A topic focused primarily on aesthetics.
This channel's content and videography is SO good. It was a very good decision to separate it from the usual LTT style.
I just can say that this is the best of LTT
Mac Address does things in a very Apple-esque fashion: they aren't rushing videos to be the first to market, they take their time and do things... differently. I kinda like it.
LTT videos aren't that scripted, like in the new 1petabyte storage video, they like went along, these are and i like these...
And LTT are Apple haters and fake news.
Thank you Jonathan, that Google Drive use case saved me some headaches.
Agreed, Google Drive on iOS is difficult at best and unusable for last minute scenarios.
Same, had to copy everything first to local then do the work
I live this, but with a Samsung phone. Google has some work to do with getting drive working better on portable OS's. Including their own :(
Use OneDrive lol. So much better. And you get to use other Microsoft programmes with 365 subscription
@@2youn8 tell this to their multi billionaire MNC bosses. There are times when you HAVE to settle for industry standards.
Wow, that demonstration of file management on iOS/iPadOS is a perfect example of how frustrating it gets to use those products for work, haha. Love almost everything else about Apple's products though!
Hm. That is not my experience at all and I have a model from 2018... I admit to not using Google Drive but Dropbox. It just works as expected.
Repair... Cough..
that issue on files happens to exactly NOBODY since nobody has all cookies blocked purposefully in the safari settings. the app even fucking tells you what to do - unblock cookies!!!
@@jaiskreno yeah, "nobody" experiences that. Sure does explain why it's documented in the video and someone else that's never talked to this dude before has had the same experience. I guess that's "nobody."
@@tomsaltner3011 Hi, I've having some trouble with using dropbox with ipad pro. I'm a photographer and I tend to transfer hundreds of photos sometimes over a couple of GB or more. I find that when I use any of the cloud service such as dropbox, wetransfer or google drive, it will only transfer a few photos, maybe around 10 or more, and it will get stuck. The only way i can get it to transfer all is to compress all the photos and transfer it and even this only works with dropbox. Since you have been using dropbox, may I ask if you have issues transferring big amount / large file size files using dropbox without compressing them? Thanks!
THANK YOU for mentioning ProRes. Like, I’m into video editing, and the lack of ProRes is actually crazy, especially because they showed off editing multiple streams of full quality 4K ProRes in their MacBook Air keynote … with the same SOC.
No, you are right. Depending on the codec, M1 MacBook Air can handle 4 streams of 4K, I’m not sure if they did it with the 8GB model tho
Use a Mac. That’s Your space.
@@KyleKoala3 not the point
this guy is so good at pacing his videos.
2:38 oh my goodness that transition though wow
Match cut
This is a pragmatic take, I like it how you ran through the workflows to really make us understand the reason behind the complain of some pro users. Ipad is indeed a complementary content consumption and easy access device. In no way a replacement for a desktop or even a MBP
It does not make the 12.9 iPad a bad purchase though. Many people just want it to replace their laptop and end up hating it... It makes no sense to me. It was never advertised or implied in any way to be a laptop replacement.
@@super_hero2 That's where you get it wrong. Apple themselves said for quite some time that this could be a laptop replacement.
@@igorcosta8559 It could be a laptop replacement with conditions. iPad can do 90% of the things most people do with their laptop, but that 10% left is where laptop shine. If that 90% is you then it can replace laptop, if that 10% is you then it can't. It should be easy to understand that iPad can't 100% replace a laptop.
It is beyond me that people take ads so literally and use ads punchlines as argument. Please just stop doing it.
@@super_hero2 I just mentioned that Apple was trying to market it as a laptop replacement. I didn't say I agree with any of it.
@@super_hero2
If its not meant to replace a laptop like Macbook Air or Pro, why put M1 or this miniled screen in it?
This is what I want from a Mac channel. Reviews and opinions from a Mac Guy, who isn’t a total fanboy unwilling to highlight issues with the system.
I would love a video on older Macs and wether or not they are good daily drivers in 2020
Cough Cough tailosive Cough Cough
Depends on use case but overall you can find some really great value and (depending on model) reliable machines. This was my experience with them: Bought my 2014 MBP retina for like £600 in early 2017 and it got me through all 3 years of uni for notes, essays, research and the battery somehow managed to be better than new windows laptops my class mates had bought for around the same money, thing would go for 6 hours easily. It handled some premiere and after effects timelines well enough but definitely not a great experience, if you can find one with a dedicated GPU maybe it’d be better but couldn’t tell ya.
Used older iMacs can also be really good value ESPECIALLY for basic use, you can get a cheap 21” with a great screen, speakers, mic and -decent- webcam for like £350 and you’ve got yourself a home pc setup that’s stupid simple for your parents/grandparents to use and manage and get most basic work done (got my mom a 2014 imac and gran a 2012 one and suddenly I stopped being a full time IT support rep lol)
2nd the motion! The 10 and 12 core Xeon W iMac Pros in Apple's Scratch & Dent [I mean Refurbished Store] are starting to be more aggressively priced and are still more than competent for my use - pro audio involving very large sample based scoring projects. I'm talking projects that would lock up an i7 iMac with 32Gb of sys. memory.
I'm daily driving a 2016 MacBook pro 15 for school and it still does everything I need I really can't complain.
@@Prr75 doesn’t the keyboard suck?
Now that’s a supercool video editing example. Music choice is just perfect. I am beginning to see how Jonathan is the right guy for this channel.
Some of the reviews for this don't make sense. This ruclips.net/user/postUgkxUGaHtKW8MwCql2fPyIm9-ftTqSMzKFFA works as well as any power strip I've used. Plug in what you need, be sensible about it & keep it movin' The construction is plastic but it's a sturdy piece. It has a single toggle switch & the swivel jacks are useful as well. Plugged in next to Tripp Lite Isobar takes some of these reviews with a pinch of sumthin' - does what it says & functions properly.Had for about a month. Perfect no complaints will update if anything changes.
9:33 That perfectly sums up the iPad. It's only a complement to a workflow, not the center. For devices like the iPad and iPad Air, and maybe even the 11" iPad Pro, that's fine. But for the 12.9" iPad Pro, which has the same power as an iMac and costs roughly the same with all of the accessories, it needs to be able to be the center of the workflow like a traditional computer. What makes that fact infuriating is that Apple can easily make that possible by just tweaking iPadOS to have none of those arbitrary limitations.
The problem is that it would be only possible for iPad Pro M1 and new iPad Air 5
Apple would need to develop 2 different iPad os
One that works with A15 and below and one that works only for iPads with M1
Tell that to pro artists that make a living with only their ipad
Love this format for Mac Address
it upsets me that Apple is intentionally holding back the stuff you can do with the iPad Pro to keep it from eating into their Mac sales. It is most definitely really interesting to see a discussion on wether the pro moniker is something even worthy of being placed on the iPad Pro and wether it’s pro features can even be taken advantage of. The way I see it it can’t and Apple is doing so on purpose
I'm pretty sure their profit margins are higher on iPads though. I am not sure Apple is intentionally holding back for monetary reasons. I think they're trying to showcase their vision of future computing and are hoping for workflows to change around the tablet as opposed to the other way around.
They're trying to change the computing paradigm, as opposed to cater to the existing one.
I fully agree with you here, this is my biggest frustration with Apple as well. I would love to replace my Macbook Pro with an iPad Pro as an all-in-one mobile computer, but as long as I cannot switch from a mobile OS (= iPadOS) to a desktop OS (=MacOS) on the iPad Pro, i will never spend more then $400 on any iPad.
@@MichaelPanneflek I got an M1 iPad Pro 12.9”. It actually serves well for lighter workloads, but as Jonathan showed in the video, the moment you actually need to conduct business with this thing, it will let you down. As more of a creator by hobby, I want to stick around and see just how deep the rabbit hole will go, but even I’m frustrated enough to begin considering a MacBook.
The only real defence I have for Apple is this: The iPad Pro is useful for custom made business application similar to the HoloLens 2. With its camera it can do 3D scanning & it is ideal for AR applications. This will find its use for businesses who use the iPad to train their new staff. Or for real estate company who will use custom software to record a 3D model of a building & can then present it to a customer via the iPad (possibly remotely). This all needs very specific software though and won't be of much use for the average iPad user. For homeuser it would make a great mobile game console but Apple doesn't really support this either.
Therefore,it should be called iPad Profit.
The channel reminds me of the science videos we used to watch in elementary school. Like that old school editing with shots of nature and calming music between points.
I like it.
I hope you're paying this guy chungusly Linus. He's good...
"Speed is irrelevant if you run in the opposite direction" - millionaire tech lead.
As a millionaire
he used to work for Google. the millionaire tech lead you mentioned
@@AvengedKaushik you forgot Facebook
love this style of video! Wouldn't look out of place on a channel 10x the size
Even 100x !!
I mean, it kinda is a channel 10x it's size lol. It's part of LMG/LTT
This was a great video, and something I can actually comment on! I'm someone who uses iPad in a support capacity for work and am not a photo/video guy. I'm a software developer, by trade, and I went with the iPad Pro 11 because the 12.9 felt too big.
What I use it for:
- Sidecar (Love it)
- Software Architecture Design using GoodNotes (Love it)
- User Interface Flow Design (Combination of GoodNotes and Adobe XD)
- PDF markups for technical documentation (Also GoodNotes)
- Code Reviews from the couch
- Teams Meetings
- Signing Legal Agreements
- Document Scanning using the camera
- The occasional email (lol)
Essentially, ALL of these things can be attained on the base iPad or iPad Air. Bought the pro because of the slightly larger screen from the base iPad and because much of the cost was subsidized by my employer (yay WFH budget!). SplitView is great for reading/watching a video and note-taking at the same time. The option to have a mouse + keyboard case allows me to be relatively productive in a space that I wouldn't want my laptop or can't get to my desktop (I went with the Logitech Slim Folio Pro because of the cheaper price tag and I hate using trackpads and my old MX Anywhere 2 mouse).
I graduated from the base iPad and can say I appreciate the little bit of extra screen. You wouldn't think so, but that small screen bump improves the Sidecar experience a good deal. I also like the idea of the camera keeping me in view during meetings where I walk around, at least in theory (haven't used it yet). Essentially, it's a great (premium) device to have as a secondary support buddy during the work hours and after to play and watch stuff on.
I super enjoy the quality and production value (writing and style and cinematography) of these videos
I couldn't care any less about Apple products I just enjoy all the hard work you guys put into these
Keep it up!
Well done! This is the first review I've found that illustrates problems with iPadOS very well. Everybody else is just like "well it's an iPad, it does iPad things."
Man... The videography is just breathtaking.😌 It's so calming.
This review reminds me so much of the old/good Top Gear car reviews. Entertaining comparisons and impressions with just enough spec talk to get the job done. Nice work!
Great Video as Always! I enjoy the style of this channel over LTT.
I feel like the videos are a lot more artsy and more polished because uploads aren’t as often on this channel
@@ConorORegan I agree. I still like the other channels, but this one seems more creative then sitting in front of a camera and talking like many LTT videos.
@@jonathanalter7857 for sure, it has a documentary style which is really unique
@@ConorORegan the only thing it is missing are the fun sponsor transitions, but I think Linus patented that :)
I agree 👍🏽
i feel like i should be paying to watch this video. the video is super high quality
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the drive photo transfer issue was a great representation. just recently I had a similar issue, but not even with a cloud service, I just wanted to transfer from sd to iPad and damned i surrendered after two hours of transferring without knowing how long it would need to finish.
Another part that got me was the screen size. i actually do kinda regret a tiny little bit buying the 12 inch model because its quite uncomfortable in your hand. i was just so hyped for a big screen coming from an 10 inch ipad.
For the shared folder in Google Drive, you need to tell the owner to give you edit access in order to copy or move the files. This is for any computer, not just the iPad. I think your opinion would've changed slightly if you knew this.
I had the same experience with a high refresh rate.
I thought it was stupid until I used an iPad pro on a kiosk and got blown away by how the menu moves.
Goodness, thank you so much for talking about the workflow! I work in film and everyone has an iPad, so when I needed to purchase a device for inventorying and doing paperwork, I bought one, even knowing I'd personally prefer a windows device.
It is so cumbersome to use, it's exactly like you described it. I literally spent thirty minutes trying to download an attachment on a non-iCloud email address. It's generally just a painful device to use strictly as a computer, despite its great screen and ease of use with other Apple services.
This channel is the Disney channel on the LLT network. I love it 😂
The production of videos on this channel blows my mind every time.
This editing is wild. Great production here.
The trash Files app is one of the biggest things holding this iPad Pro back.
one of your best videos. the google drive part is SO real… but year after year, ipados gets a little closer to being a laptop replacement, and i have faith it eventually will be one. I already do everything on my ipad if i can because it feels so wonderful.
The M1 chip in the new ipad is basically the way Apple to say:
“Bruh, you know how hard to design, create and advertise a freaking revolution ARM chip like this? I’m gonna use the hell out of this!”
Theoretical physics MSc:
-Notability (books, notebooks)
-TexPad (LaTeX editor for all my papers and assignments 1to1 to the Mac version)
-Pythonista and Juno (coding in Python)
-and then there's the rest....
Really love this lovely dovely little huge machine.
Thank you for the black background!
this is one of the best reviews I have ever seen of any product.
This video is the best Mac Address has put out so far, I'm loving where this channel is headed!
Downtown San Antonio a year after this video released I was and still am getting 700 mbps down and about 50-70 up. I had no problem doing everything. Watching videos and playing multiplayer games with friends like pubg.
I like how the world is talking about the latest tech. outside of apple and jonathan is just like:-
"Aight, time to realease an iPad video."
My work is heavily invested in Office 365 and I do field engineering for a software company. The larger iPad pro is great and I leave my macbook at home. I can do presentations, digital whiteboarding, video conferencing, and my work has some nice single-sign-on capabilities implemented so that all my SaaS apps just work with no password required. This allows me a good 95% functionality in a nice slim and not to heavy profile. No more backpacks to lug around, I just hold my iPad when walking around between building at work or out in the field.
So for pro business use, it is a good investment, for the most part. I can't stand the smaller screens so its the 13 inch or nothing for me.
Also helps that work pays for my iPad, so cost is no concern.
Andy is a great videographer. This channel is great.
I didn’t understand the HDR. Content but after watching a video on RUclips in HDR, it’s insane. The iPad gets extremely bright and makes it so stunning.
Best iPad review i have seen yet. Well balanced. Not biased for or against apple. Just plain facts. 👍
I'm a sound engineer by trade and find that the 12.9" display is really handy when using remote control software for Sound consoles. Having all of the screen space makes it easier to control faders and multi-touch makes it like your in front of the sound desk even though your not.
The production quality of this channel is sooo good and it covers things that other reviews always miss
I lovw how this channel is discussing about Apple, but more in a real life useful cases instead of showcasing
Love this channel even as a person who doesn't own a single apple product, you are a great host and keep up the great work! very well spoken
The videos on this channel are on another level
i love this channel's calmer pace compared to the high energy LTT videos where everyone tries to be a low shelf comedian
I use my ipad (2020) for drawing and personal photo editing, or clients of mine, it's fantastic and I love it, nothing from teamwork. But there's no way I'm buying any new ipads down the road if there's no real change in the OS.
We have a few iPad Pros in testing right now for applications we use to manage servers, computers, and resources across the world. Definitely think that it's helpful, but only for the 5G speeds, so we'll probably wait until the Air comes with 5G so it's not as much.
I absolutely love my new 12.9 iPad Pro. Upgraded from 10.5 inch iPad Pro and it has been great
Excellent take; thank you for actually demonstrating the limitations of the OS in your workflow.
I am a student and I use my iPad Air to take notes along with writing papers and other assignments.
i literally had almost the exact same google drive problem today, bravo for the video quality 👏
We use the iPad Pro for our field data. Great screen, camera and being able to run LiDAR point cloud data is big. Also the screen makes it very easy to view and redline building plans.
Thank you for your perspective. Every RUclipsr thinks that Pro usecase is just video and photo editing/writing/drawing. THERE ARE OTHER PROFESSIONS TOO!!!
@@tasosjw Unfortunately, to apple and apple users, the only professions that DO exist for apple products ends up being just media (Music, art, writing, photo, video). So if what you do isn't in that list, then you are not a "professional" in the eyes of apple OR an apple user.
Never even considered buying one. Just here cuz Jonathan's videos are nice to watch.
I don’t know who found Jonathan or where he came from, but wow is this guy is a master presenter. Each video I watch, I’m just blown away.
This video alone earned you a subscriber. The quality of the video is fabulous!!
I have been a heavy desktop user for a good while now, because I’m part time video editor, and I started another job recently that is less video heavy but more mobile. This iPad is perfect for me for viewing both movies and work videos and remote to my desktop top at home. I also am pretty exclusively IOS filmmaker because I am not much a of a camera guy and more of a post production worker.
Not to mention I was looking for something that would make mild graphic design work go smoothly on the go
Just bought an iPad Pro (my first) for the very specific use of composing music with the apple pencil and reading music and so far I am super happy with it, for professional composers and players I do think the iPad is a truly pro machine, but maybe not for pros in other types of work
Can we appreciate the editing. It's better than any other of Linus's Channels
I love the style of production of this videos. It's so fresh and different than anything LMG produces. I even think camera and leneses are different. That's amazing. I think this is might be the best LMG channel right now. 100% the artsiest.
Gosh I love the production value on these videos
This is the best iPad Pro video I’ve watched to date. Thank you
The mac address videos always seem more polished and have a calmer vibe to them then other lmg channels. I wish this "style" was replicated onto the other channels. Or it could just be Jonathon's voice that adds the cherry on the cake. No clue...
Dude I just started watching Mac address and the PRODUCTION QUALITY 😍🌟😍
I'm a student. I've been able to completely replace my workflow with the iPad Pro 11" and the Macbook Pro. I can take all my handwritten notes on the iPad Pro using Apple Pencil and Notability, and features like Universal Control make it super easy to manage spreadsheets, documents, and presentations between the two of them. The center stage camera on the iPad is quite nice for video calls, and the ProMotion makes handwriting feel snappy. Also, the Lidar sensor allows me to experiment with 3D scanning, which is super cool to be able to play around with as a STEM major. Today, I'd probably go for the iPad Air, since it's cheaper and also has the M1 chip, but I don't regret getting the Pro, and it really is invaluable to my workflow.
I bought one just for the screen. I like to watch videos outdoors. If you have the means, I highly recommend it.
Im genuinely impressed by this channel's content, both the writing and videography in particular. Great host and beautiful visuals! And I love how different it is from regular LTT, while maintaining that high quality. Love this video! Looking forward to the next one
I really feel like only point of 12.9" iPad is in using it as a portable drawing tablet. I'm in love with M1 performance and it completely replaced my Cintiq, but as Jonathan says, if you're not an artist 11" model just make so much sense.
Ooooo the transition at 7:57 was sooo good 👏👏👏
In google drive, you have to use " open in" instead of sharing, the dialog will say it's "downloading" and you can save your files.
I'm a musician and I use the ipad pro for two very important purposes where a mac is inferior
1. Composing music on Notion by Presonus on the ipad pro. There is a mac version as well that syncs with the ipad version. The real kicker is being able to handwrite notation in.
2. Sheet Music. I use the app forscore to read pdfs of all my sheet music. Now I dont have to carry many music folders with me. There is even an option to turn pages hands free.
Finally someone who says a12-Zed. 🇨🇦🇬🇧
I love my ipad pro with the apple pencil, I use it way more that my laptop every day. I use it for class as a notebook, edit video on Luma fusion, professional photos in lightroom and write my papers on it. I can say getting one really improved my workflow
You’ve probably covered this in newer videos, but I thought it might be useful to put it here.
It looks like Pro-Res and other formats are now supported in Lumafusion, although I’ve not tried them myself. Files can be dragged and dropped from Google drive into the files app, not sure what the issue was there. A progress bar is now available for copying files and folders. Apps can now use 12gb, up from 5gb on an iPad Pro.
This is why to me, as a professional violinist, this iPad is the absolute best device.
To begin, the 12.9 size is soo good for reading sheet music, having a device in which you can have any sheet music you could think of, and carry a whole ton of concertos, sonatas, solo repertoire, class stuff, etc, and being able to change the page with a foot pedal!? this is already more than enough, and if apple made a bigger not pro ipad maybe I would consider, but then again with this single device, thanks to how powerful it is I can also just plug in my interface and record with garage band my auditions, edit in Luma fusion or rush, take advantage of procreate, and all of them together is a gigantic creative tool, there are even apps for writing sheet music with the apple pencil and it automatically turns it into computer written stuff from your hand!! the m1 does come in to help with of all these, I specially feel it with rush.
Also having this new beautiful screen for watching movies, or just random media consumption is amazing, the only device I really use for that, even the whole center stage feature has been helpful for all the online classes I give.
And now with quarantine im even playing competitively CODM lol
Couldn't be happier with it, 1100 for all of that, I think it's pretty good, and if later we finally get logic and a few other ipad os optimizations will just be beyond perfect.
07:10 Slight continuity error, you close the iPad twice!
Aside from this, great video and production!
ever see a bruce lee film? they do it to be more impactful :)
I liked on a 2020 iPad Pro moments before being told to like if I couldn’t afford one… I just liked the video. It spoke to a lot of the challenges I’ve been having even on the older model.
I love the quality of the videos on this channel.
every friggin time. give the guy choosing the music for this video a month of beer
awesome choice on background audio
This is a REALLY good review.. Very well thought out and worth the hours of research I’ve wasted so far, sifting through all the garbage reviews regurgitating specs like a broken record. Nice to see someone breaking that cycle and writing something original. Subscribed. Thank you!!!!
I'm still using my 2016 9.7 inch iPad pro. It may be kind of slow at certain things, but it really doesn't demand an upgrade 5 years later like my previous iPad 2 did. Apple really has gotten their silicone way ahead of everyone else to still feel snappy today.
I really like how much you criticise the limitation Apple products have.
I just bought a used 2018 ipad pro and its great for school, most of my friends have the air 4th gen and my tablet feels much smoother because of the faster screen
I liked that you guys didn't gloss over the fact that if you have to use Google Drive or One Drive the workflow becomes insane to get the right files where you need them.
This review was better written and levelheaded than most non apple specific channels. I'm really surprised of how much I enjoy this channel's content (given that I don't own a single Apple product).
The video looks absolutely fantastic btw (on my Samsung's amoled screen 🤣)
I really like your videos, at first I was like "okay, time to watch another iPad review" but this really felt like a thoughtful video
Best production I have seen from Linus media group so far. To the point and professional. Keep it up!
Wow this video really got me thinking. I’ve been perplexed for a while about What is the iPad and iPad Pro. And I think this totally gets it right, it’s a secondary device, for a pro or not, to do some light tasks, or some very specific ones (like with the pencil to do illustrations and design), but it’s not a main device. It acts as accessory, and a tool of luxury for people who want to do those secondary tasks slightly more efficiently or quickly, but it doesn’t replace anything you could with a fully fletched computer. Hence why apple won’t add multi-user built in or better file management, because this you would still do on your “main” device. And apple wants to keep that way on purpose, so that it doesn’t overshadow it’s computers business. Man thanks for making that clear in mind
i watch this video from time to time. it is so good
I love how this channel is a way for LMG to try new shooting styles
I am loving this style of content, so refreshing
I use my iPad Air as a small laptop, my workplace support Citrix Remote Desktop. 😊 it works great.
I still have and use my 1st gen iPad Pro every day.
It's from 2017 and has 120hz!
Starting to see its age, maybe one more year.
this is my favorite linus channel
I’m of the opinion that the 2020 iPad Pro is still fine but the 2021 model is still very cool. I love the A Roll set in this video and the b roll is fantastic