I honestly would love to see a part two, where the team looks at 2D and/or 3D artists, and software developers of various trades. Maybe thrown in a mathematician with large data set projects to spice things up
Well, the problem is that 2D artists don't need that amount of power, and as for 3D, currently most of the software is not optimised. Like, if I'm not mistaken Blender, for example, still can't use natively GPU cores. And while not everyone uses blender, probably it's really common problem there Edit: ok, it supports it now.
Well at least for deep learning its not as good as something with an RTX 3070 or RTX 3080. Just does not support features like special data formats as NVidia is using. For 3D: Honestly the software is the limitation. Autodesk Inventor does not have a MacOS version. Neither does CATIA or SolidWorks. So the big 3 are not running under MAC. What do you want to test there? There is no professional software available for MacOS. The closest things is Fusion 360 but honestly that just does not compare to Inventor or SolidWorks. For artists the only professional option I know is Maya. That you might be able to test.
@@THYMY_PAVLOVAS one of my friends is an architect. His work machine has an GTX 1650 with an 6 core i5. And it is fast enough for everything. Ok not rendering, for that they use an extra server. The vast majority of projects does not require that much power for architecture.
@@gonnabestupidbutactuallyno8295 On Oliur's review of the new Mac Studio he mentions that blender can now work with the GPU, he did some blender benchmarks on the M1 Ultra Mac Studio
He definitely goes for a more story-based RUclips mini-documentary approach, which is nice regardless of the subject matter. Much more Vox-ish than nightly news.
I'm not a Mac user and when MA started it felt LMG-like, but also a bit different from the other channels at the same time. As you mentioned it feels special in a very good way, I like it and watch it regularly.
@@elliotsharpe5448 I dunno man, coding is too code dependent for one to see if the device is good or not. Also I've coded on my galaxy tab a10.1 2016, so the base specs required are really low compared to what the MBpro should be able to do.
Good video. Just like you mentioned, professional software is a big issue. I think it’s even hard for Adobe to catch up with Apple evolving hardware. But all these “legacy” ports on the MacBook is a good start
For sure I think it’s based on your use case. I ditched my 2013 Mac Pro for the M1 Mac mini for video editing in adobe premiere and it is a complete night and day difference how much more powerful it is
Not just Adobe, but Apple's pandering to creators only, with creator software lacking massively, is a market niche Apple is carving for people who simply don't care about computers, pretty much dropping a fat deuce on all the people who created the M1. Instead of exploring what that chip can do (and finally have a proper competitor to Nvidia Quadro), we have, well, what do we have? Nothing. What is Apple's USP? Uselessness?
Bullshit!!!!! It's not about Adobe catching up to Apple hardware but it's the multitude of hardware that is actually difficult to optimise on all platforms.
i love how consumer-focused this channel is and how a lot of channels are pivoting to more consumer-focused content! edit: didn't know that there would be discourse on this, so to clarify: i meant that this video actually shows how the Mac fits into real-life use case scenarios, and not just only focusing on stating specs of the machine itself. thank you all for the opinions !
I used to have a music production station just a tad above what the person in this video had but I use Ableton Live. For me even upgrading to the base model 14" was an astronomical change. Native support really makes or breaks the deal in music.
I am a Cubase user and as soon as I heard the next version of Cubase got M1 support, I was much more enticed to get a MacBook Air for mobile work. Now I have it and still have to wait for the Cubase upgrade because of monetary reasons, but it already feels like a great investment.
I mean yeah. Reason is fun for a hobbyist, but if you’re doing real time recording and actually trying to make music…… why? I like a score for midi input so I use logic, but basically any software: Logic, Ableton, Cubase, Protools, Audition, etc…. is going to work better.
Sadly the person uses some weird stuff and not sure how much representative was that at all. M1 and M2 is fabulous for music production with low latency!
I love the anti-apple fanboyism of this channel. It feels like so many other reviewers are so quick to sing their praises and talk up the product. I love the impartiality of this channel/company as a whole.
I don't see it as "anti-apple fanboyism" as much as looking at Apple products in real-world use. Johnathan seems like someone who likes Apple, and their products, but is also able to look at their flaws objectively. That's different from being anti-Apple and saying everything they make is c***
@@arthuralford I think you misunderstand. I love the impartiality of the reviewers here. I am an iOS dev and (regrettably) own way more apple devices right now than most would get in their lifetime. I am used to seeing reviewers like Max Tech talk up apple products more than impartially scrutinize. My job requires I get apple products but I’m far from a fanboy and have much disdain for their lack of practicality in many of their design decisions. I think if more reviewers criticized we’d get apple to listen more. Which seems to be what apple is starting to do (wrt rolling back stupid design decisions of MBPs).
When you are using a computer to work on projects and/or make you money, you are much more critical when things go south. I use my Thinkpad P52 every day and I am not fanboy of Lenovo or anything, it just works for what I am doing and I would recommend to any engineer who would ask me. I don't care about a brand, I care about how it works. And creators using Macs would have the same opinion, I guess.
The audio latency part is highly dependent on what audio interface you're using. With RME audio interfaces you can achieve 64 samples (5ms round trip) without pops or stutters on a mid to high tier PC or Mac. Even with low end Focusrite interfaces you can achieve sub 10ms round trip with good performance using their AISO driver. His problem comes from using the built-in audio system, I'm a bit floored that any musician would do this.
the inbuilt drivers in macos are most compatible with other apps, i haven't used an asio soundcard with macos yet but on windows it would immediately botch all other applications from using audio though yeah i agree if latency is something you're worried about and you're doing a bunch of recording (both audio and midi) i dont get why you'd use the standard coreaudio driver
Asio is a windows driver not a mac driver, Macos uses Audio Core driver which is a native Apple driver compatible with pro Audio interfaces and the built in interface. With Logic, I never had any issues even on my biggest projects. There are a lot of factors that might affect the way the DAW behave.
It can be but he had a ton of vst's and vsti's loaded, he was maxing DSP which in a purely CPU environment means CPU resources, this wasn't a matter of the interface not keeping up. The lower the buffer size, the faster all those software instruments and effects have to deliver the goods.. running probably all of them through Rosetta can very quickly mean problems.
@@penisdubs Yeah it really depends on the interface, I know with my Focusrite interferfaces of my past when using AISO the application would hog the entire soundcard. With RME interfaces all ins / outs can be used in multiple applications at once even with multiple applications pulling ASIO and MME at the same time on Windows. RME interfaces extract a heavy toll, however 🤑
Really beautifully edited video guys! Also Jonathan's face as he instantly loses all respect for his friend at 8:35 for getting a Space Grey one is absolutely priceless.
Hey Jonathan! First off, I always enjoy the visual quality of Mac Address videos. Second, and the reason I'm commenting, is that the audio issues that Andrew was having MAY (and I'm including that caveat because of my limited experience) come down to the interface he's using (assuming he's using an external interface, anyway). IT may not be powerful enough to handle the processing of the smaller sample sizes. I've found output capability differences between different tier interfaces that I've used, so... maybe he's having the same problem.
Any audio interface (including built in one) runs through CoreAudio so that’s not the reason. (I’m not saying there’s no difference between interfaces in that manner but it’s negligible)
@@mrGood-84 That's true if they are class compliant. Otherwise, the way Interfaces will perform at different buffer sizes can still come down to their drivers. We've tested Cubase Pro 11 under Rosetta on an M1 Mac Mini, and while a song with about 50 tracks ran stutter-free on a Focusrite Saffire 6i6, we've had terrible performance with a UA Apollo Twin X. Tested the same on an Intel Mac and they both ran fine. So it seems that UAs drivers still aren't up to scratch (or weren't at the time of testing) for the new chip architecture.
@@nicholasbinder5593 Strange. I own Apollo Twin mk1 and it's running the same as it did on my Intel MBP. UA software still runs under Rosetta though....
I’ve used Reason for two decades now and I’m looking forward to upgrade to an arm mac. But I know Reason isn’t ready yet for native support of the M1 and up yet. So I look at this as an “fixed” match. There is a lot of music software companies that’s not ready yet. I had this problem when going from MacOS 9 to 10.
@@robertt9342 that transition went easier and faster. We’ll see how they can stick to their new timeline and deliver M1 support before the summer. I need to upgrade my computer, but I will wait for an Mac mini with the M2 chip. I’d like to see some Mac Studio features trickle down to the mini and maybe that you can choose a Pro chip. We’ll see what Tim will do.
I'm surprised that it would actually run slower on M1 than on a 2015 MacBook Pro. Personally I went from a 2015 MacBook Pro, fully loaded, to an MacBook Air M1, and while everything native was incredibly fast, performance on older x86 apps, in most cases, felt about the same or slightly more responsive. I guess that translation layer needs some help with the more complex multimedia apps. In any case, at some point you'd think they'd update it to native M1, in which case any performance bottle necks should be removed. But it's not bad advice to wait a bit longer if there's something in particular you're using that doesn't yet work.
I'd like to see a look into how 3D artists feel about the M1 Ultra Mac Studio. Apple hyped it up as a powerhouse for 3D, but the benchmarks in Blender 3.1 seem really underwhelming.
I kept saying this shit ever since the m1 chipset release the m1 chip is all bark no bite simple 1st party apps are awsome with it but what about 3rd party apps
@@ezronthelegend it's the third party software maker's job to support the hardware and make good use of it if they want that market. If they don't care, you just look for some other app
@@manaspradhan8041 true, but in the case of Blender, Apple contributed the Metal compatibility themselves and it's still pretty meh performance. I think there might be a fundamental flaw with M1 that makes it less effective for 3D rendering.
@@ezronthelegend I provisionally disagree, because look at what it’s replacing in its price range: the Intel chips that came before it also made lofty promises and underdelivered (given what you’re paying for), so at the base M1 level, the chips are great. The Pro/Max/Ultra levels however, are a different story. They are priced to compete with hybrid systems (read: those with a discrete GPU), yet their price-to-performance is pretty lousy. TBF to Apple, the first-gen Intel lineup by-and-large didn’t set the world on fire either, and the same applies to the chips used in their early iPhones and iPads, so while the M1 is a solid start, I’d probably wait until the M2X or M3X before getting a higher-end product.
@@manaspradhan8041 You can’t just change your workflow and pipeline in a studio just because your new hardware isn’t handling it well. I would turn it around. Apple should adept and make hardware and software people can use in existing pipelines. You can’t say to a studio full of people working in a program, you have to change all to different software because we bought new hardware.
I love the addition of audio engineers to the benchmarking. I feel like the audio engineer space is really big on youtube, yet doesnt get enough love from the youtube reviewer channels. Would of loved to see how the ableton live sample rate would of varied from the old MacBook vs the new ones.
I think the music industry DAWs are quite good on Apple Silicon but it's the plug ins that they rely on that are the cause of loads of problems. I think they're often made by small companies so they can't move it over quickly as such .Part two with a video editor / 2D + 3D artist / & programmer would be amazing! Great vid!
Damn, this was a really well produced video! So interesting and pleasant to watch. Keep on this direction, definitely one of the best I've seen here on RUclips! About the Mac, I guess it really comes down to your use case. It's probably still on that level where it makes more sense for actual professionals who happen to use a software that's good on the M1. Although its features are really tempting. I hope they, along with the design, make their way over to the cheaper models.
Love the collaboration of actual Pros for pro products. Loved the Apple pencil vid and loved this one too. Good to see that someone acknowledges that these machines can be used for way more than video editing.
Really great video guys. I need an upgrade for my recording rig [2013 MBP] but the software is still so far behind. For me, I’m contemplating an M1 Air purchase to test everything on and THEN buying a Studio once I can confirm all software is ready to go. The form factor and hardware is fantastic but the time/extra cost involved with this transition is large for some in the audio space. Although most DAW’s are supported, it’s the plugin’s/extra’s that aren’t optimised and are often are made by smaller developers who aren’t resourced enough to transition at any pace. In a professional environment these are all risks that never feel great taking.
I like the idea that LMG can expand into content outside of the knoleagble gamer that they normally write for. While thats not a bad thing and i am one of those people this is something different that other types of techies can get into and it has a different feel to everything else LMG makes.
Just a note about audio work: Just like Viiola Bloom, i upgraded from a mid 2014 15" MBP (shares same everything with the 2015 model except graphics and ssd) to a M1 Pro. But my daw of choice is Ableton, which is now M1 optimized. At first, just by watching the app's cpu meter, I didn't notice any significant benefit, but then, opening the same, huuge project, I noticed that the old mac just couldn't even playback, while the M1 was flying. One really absurd thing is that with the M1 you get lower CPU usage by reducing buffer size! That is nonsense crazy. It may be a CPU meter error, but anyways I can now use ridicolous buffer sizes like 64, with almost no latencies, and basically do almost whatever I want without caring about performance issues and without fans spinning all the time.
I think the biggest issue with this video is that it failed to explain optimization within a DAW. There are many things that can be done to reduce latency such as bouncing down VSTis to audio tracks etc. If this person was using Logic or Studio One I'm sure the results would have been way more in his favor.
@@eddielucitt yes they just briefly said that they were using an old, not-m1-native version of Reason, but they didn’t had a chance to show how a native daw performs. Another, not mentioned, important thing to keep in mind when upgrading to Apple Silicon is the audio interface compatibility, especially if you’re using relatively old devices: atm there are just a few that can deliver full functionality and drivers. Many will work, but with class-compliant drivers (that could mean less routings/less i-o/less samplerates & bit depths available). It may not be a problem for many, but for who has relatively old hardware (audio interfaces don’t get obsolete as quickly as many other devices) could mean also a gear update. In my case, i had to keep my old mac running to use an old firewire interface (fw is no longer compatible with M1) that I can’t ditch because i love the sound of those specific preamps for some applications.
@@frammenzio I’m curious if you looked into a Thunderbolt to FireWire adapter? A lot of them use the TB1 and TB2 connector AKA miniDP and would need a further adapter to USB-C, but one of the selling points when Apple first added Thunderbolt a little over a decade ago was high FW800 compatibility. That said, I’m looking to upgrade but will be keeping my 2012 i7 around anyway for 32-bit plug-ins and may want to route audio through it via optical almost like a big guitar pedal, so I can definitely understand keeping the old machine around for some purposes no matter what!
@@kaitlyn__L I already have a fw adapter, but with the new Apple Silicon architecture they completely ditched fw protocol. So it's not just a connector problem, fw devices simply can no longer communicate with the latest macs. That fw800->thunderbolt->usbc method works only till the latest intel macs. So, keeping "oldware" is the way to go, as always!
@@frammenzio oh jeez, I’ve not seen anyone mention that the M1/2 Thunderbolt implementation dropped it! That sucks, but also thank you for telling me. Just another reason to keep my current machine with TB1 and FW800.
So glad you guys came out with this video. I work on broadway musicals and a lot within the industry have been umming and ahing about the new MacBook pros. We heavily rely on particular software, like Reason, that's specifically built for theatre operations, hence, is far more niche and therefore can't get the instant software fixes for the M1 architecture. Was very interesting seeing how massive of a problem that software barrier can be with complex and niche apps, I mean 4000 samples is ridiculous, and frankly unusable in many cases.
I switched from a Ryzen 7 2700x to an M1 air. It wasn't a planned upgrade, LTT got me curious because they were shockingly positive about something Apple made. Once I got around the software issues (you really need to be ready to change the software you work with) I started loving the thing and noticed I was actually more productive. Productive enough to buy an M1 mini as well. They are the 'good old' M1 with 16gb so not exactly the powerhouses we get in 2022, but it's insane how easily they outperform my Ryzen 2700x with 32gb of ram and a 1660 for audio, video and photo editing. And in my case it's all still going through Rosetta because I just cannot final cut :D.
As an all-round creative, I’ve switched from a Mac Pro 2019 to a MacBook Pro M1 Max. Honestly, it’s been a great change so far. Premiere / After Effects projects that struggled with the Mac Pro are buttery smooth now, and overall I don’t miss the Intel + ATI combination at all. I can do more, faster and now fully portable. Creative Suite works fine in general, and I’m confident that software optimization will improve with time. So far I’m pretty happy with the transition, for me it’s worth the investment.
@@estycki Beta version is M1 native, but I use the most up-to-date one with Rosetta and it works without any issue. Performance is already better than on my previous Intel Mac Pro, so in theory this can only improve with future releases.
Thank you for shedding light on this. There is little to no talk about how rough professional software is right now, even just on Intel Macs. Apple Silicon just complicates this more, unfortunately. There becomes much work needed to fix software, which some (big) developers neglect.
What I like about all the LMG videos is how you get to know the people working there. For example, I'm a big fan of the "tech upgrade" videos on LTT. At first I thought MA would be much more separate from the rest, but it incorporates the non-hosts much more than the others! I don't own any Apple hardware other than a broken ipod touch from 2011 or so, but I'm starting to enjoy this channel anyway.
Please make more videos like this with the new Apple devices. It's very nice to see a very well define video when talking about the relationship between Apple Devices and Pro users.
I’ve been working at a video production studio for a couple of weeks now and they replaced almost their entire lineup of workstation macs with M1 Max macbooks and editing uncrompressed RAW 4K 100fps footage on there, it flies trough it it’s incredible
I found this to be really interesting but would love to see it expanded upon even more. I have always been a Mac fan, but have never been able to justify the switch not only just because of the price but also because of the compatibility with other hardware and such. A series on a long time Windows builder/user being encouraged to switch and the process of getting all their existing hardware working on the Mac would be interesting.
On the new M1 Pro, using Logic Pro is so much quicker and you can properly load multiple tracks on the timeline, as many different sound packs you need and it doesn’t skip a beat. This thing is very impressive, but only if you’re using apple proprietary products, or a really well optimised product like FL Studio
I use MOTU audio interfaces for music recording, and they're usually one macOS version behind with their drivers (as are many DAW manufacturers). Sure, the existing drivers *usually* work with the latest macOS, but isn't worth attempting an OS upgrade right away just in case it has to be downgraded again. That's not even addressing the Apple Silicon architecture change. It took until late 2021 before most of MOTU's line-up was supported on M1. And it's looking like legacy hardware will never be supported on it. For digital audio, low latency operation is paramount and developing new drivers always has the manufacturers playing catch-up whenever there's a major OS or architecture change.
I'm a software developer and got a 16-inch MacBook Pro with M1 Max. It's great, super fast and super quiet, and when I look back at my previous Dell laptop it suddenly looks horribly outdated, while just a few months ago I was still happy with it. Almost all of the tools I need to do my job work fine on the MacBook Pro. There's just one thing that I need for one of my clients, and that's the Oracle database. It's almost impossible / very difficult to get working on Apple Silicon. There's no ARM version and the regular x86 version does not work on Rosetta (according to Oracle because of a limitation in Rosetta...?). So I'm now running the database on a separate Intel machine that I connect to from the MacBook Pro.
I kinda always ignored this channel since Mac's aren't my thing very much, but watching a bit lately the videos are all top notch and just suck you in! I love the humor other LMG channels have but this more professional take (and more applicable to real life videos) are great!
Interesting. Not the outcomes I was expecting. In my case, I'm sticking with Intel CPUs because I have a number of Intel-based VMs that I run under Parallels. Perhaps my need for these VMs will go away, at which time my ties to Intel will be broken and then I can consider upgrading.
Btw my experience on Logic Pro coming from a 16 inch MBP with i7 was transformational. Projects that would not play at all in certain moments where they'd totally crash at 1024 buffer size can now play easily at 256 which is within record range
There are just some programs that simply don’t exist for MacOS, for example SolidWorks. So as great as a Mac is for many people, if you study or work in anything technology based, make sure every required program has a Mac version available.
Finally someone using the Macbooks in a proper real world context. I had to return my Mac due to similar issues with music production - it was idosyncratic. EDIT : I can't blame Apple - the Macbook otherwise felt far more modern than anything I have currently. Maybe in the next few years - it'll finally come to maturity, but I have my doubts given how AMD and Intel are making leaps and bounds in Performance. Apple's issue is that it's only leapfrogged their competitors due to them bagging all the TSMC 5nm capacity early on. Once Intel's ARC are on 5nm, things might turn out quite differenlty.
That very last quote says a lot about the MacBook Pro that I really never realized. It's funny because it almost feels like the MacBook Pro is marketed towards people who want to be professionals but don't fully realize the kinda power it takes to do the things they dream of doing.
I'm a cyber security student trying to get CompTIA certifications and I love the M1 Macbook Pro 14" with M1 Pro chip 16GB because I can run virtual versions of Mac, Linux, and Windows all at once and it runs smoothly with parallels. I even tried to intentionally choke it with RUclips videos and Disney+ on all 3 operating systems and it handled it with only 13GB RAM usage. Very impressed. Mines a $2500 configuration 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM.
Worth noting with the DAW example is that, if you're mostly happy with the sounds you have, you can render that track in place (in most DAWs) and then you can turn off the plugins you were using, thus saving CPU resources. Cubase, Reaper, Pro Tools, Ableton, and Apple's own Logic all have a feature like this, and for DAWs that don't (Like older versions of Harrison Mixbus), you can mute everything except the track you're happy with and render that in a lossless format, then reimport it on a new track and disable plugins on the original. ALSO Worth noting is that some interfaces have their own DSP chips built in that can handle effects rendering, acting as a coprocessor (UAD Apollo comes to mind) The way Andrew's been working in this video is so inefficient that it feels intentional
Great and realistic review buuuuut - very problem specific IMO. Yes, the software lags behind (as always). Is that a general case? Hell no! I use Logic and Studio One DAWs and buuuumch of third party plugin software and I’ve gained noticeable performance gains compared to my previous 15” 2017 i7 2.8ghz mbp even if some of them (still) run in Rosetta. And it’s dead quiet and has at least 2x more battery potential while running those intense projects. Adobe is well known for making shitty software and when you compare how Capture One, DaVinci Resolve and Affinity suite run on M1, it’s even more sad.
@@Vageta1999 in general you do expect older software to run faster on newer hardware. But it seems like there are quite a few issues getting the software to run without hickups. Issues like not being able to use certain features and running plugins/extension/drivers. I've been looking to buying the M1 but I will probably wait until the software support is more matured and get the M2.
musician here. i'm on an m1 macbook air (16gb ram) and i run my sessions almost entirely on a 64 sample buffer, on ableton live (m1 native) *and* pro tools (rosetta). so the outdated reason version is almost certainly the problem. & he should make sure his audio *drivers* are up to date & m1 native. also: i've recently seen that reason (the rack instruments/effects) has been released as a plugin, which you can use in other daws. so your friend might do well to try reason hosted in a different daw... ableton, logic, and reaper are all m1 native, maybe others. anyway thanks for including us! most of these performance videos only cover video editing...
wow this was a real world level that I had no expectations and was still surprised by the results. One use case is "software is garbage might as well upgrade." the other is "Its great but not at that price tag." and I agree, if $4000 will get you a water cooled Threadripper and color graded peripherals that is nearly 60% faster for your specific workload, why buy the macbook?
plus people get suckered into the cool factor of laptops but do they really need one? I guess if you want to pay the premium to take it to the coffee shop?
It’s a little weird and unfair to compare a laptop to a desktop, rather than another laptop, for any use case. Still, you might consider the MacBook for a couple of reasons. Noise, power draw, and portability. If you’re getting 70% of the performance of a huge, power hungry desktop in a package you can throw in a backpack and take with you, and operate at full speed on BATTERY power for 5-8 hours with no need to be near an outlet.. that could be game changing for people who work from home or travel. If you ONLY work at an office space with a static setup.. why look at any laptop? At that point the M1 Ultra Mac Studio would be a more apt, and fascinating, comparison.
@@thenoobperspective7588 fair enough, if you have limited space or travel or need silence or are locked into the apple ecosystem then your argument is valid. If you finished watching the video, clearly an option presented as macbook or desktop, and desktop was chosen. Not for features, or compact, or noise but price tag. As great as the mbp is, it's not worth $4000.
@@christiaanventer8183 I thought it was 2300? Also if you got that the choice was MacBook or desktop out of the video, you might need to get your head checked out. They literally tell you the takeaway in the title.
I mean, I have a fancy water cooled pc that can run with way more performance than my MacBook, but the last time I checked, I can’t use it in a car, train, class or public settings. If people were to have a single computer, the vast majority would prefer a laptop. Sacrificing power for versatility is pretty much the standard.
As a audio engineer, his experience is very relatable. So many audio programs (DAWs, plugins, controller software, drivers) are way behind. Sometimes due to architecture like Intel vs M1, but also due to the newer OS.
I get that it's largely based on availability of people you know, as LMG's professional contacts aren't likely to include music producers. However, I think you've debased the entire premise of this video by assessing people who aren't using the most popular software package for the platform. How can we say that music producers aren't going to get the instant jolt of benefit if most of them are using Ableton? I'd like to see more content focusing on _in the wild_ situations, but I don't think this video hit the mark for that.
I get your line of reasoning for "in the wild" use cases, but haven't other creators and reviewers (including other LMG channels) already covered M1 MBP impressions, benchmarks in their reviews? I'm guessing Mac Address ran with this narrative to differentiate themselves from other M1 MBP content
What dude? The entire premise of this video is that software development outside of the most popular apps has been slow to embrace M1. He actually would have debased his premise if he had focused on an Ableton user as you suggest.
I'm not a creative professional, but I make music in ableton live 11. I've been using a windows based computer my entire musical life. That changed after my 1 year old high end windows laptop performance had gotten worse, after I installed the new ableton version. I tried every trick I could think of to get it to play nice, but I was still having issues with freezing and crashing. I ended up selling that laptop and moving to an macbook pro (m1 pro). and ableton runs AMAZING on it. Very happy with my purchase so far!
I think there's something else going wrong in that scenario. I bought my first ever Mac computer with the 2020 M1 Air and moved my music production hardware and software over and saw nothing but benefits. There were some compatibility issues early on but that was mainly from the version of the OS rather than an M1 issue. All was resolved within a couple months and to this day I haven't had issues and everything has worked, and have only gotten better as these updates rolled out.
That last sequence where Hoffman said "if you're not in a professional environment" is 100% accurate. As someone who uses an 16" M1 Max 10/32 64GB for work, it would be a complete waste of money if I wasn't using it in the environment I do.
Appreciate the attempt to represent some real world usage in music… but Reason is such an uncommon choice and sort of a waste of time to examine so closely when apps like Pro Tools, Logic and Ableton are by far the dominant environments in that world.
I’m an audio & music professional here, and I’ve gotta say that the audio information in this video is quite misleading. I think it would’ve been much more real world and useful if more people could’ve shared their experiences (audio and video too). I’ve been working on music specially for more than 7 years, and I’ve used several versions of the macbook pro. With the M1 Max, I’m able to use even 32/64 samples for recording with no hiccups, pushing it to 512/1024 in big projects (2048 as a desperate measure for really, really demanding ones). Inside that margin, it works. With the M1 (base), some projects were barely playable, and on the 2016 macbook pro it just wasn’t feasible. All this using Ableton, Pro Tools or Logic through Rosetta. Reason just turns out to be a really bad choice for a video like this (there are many other professional tools to check before that one). It really depends on the workflow and count of tracks/virtual instruments, and no info is given on that matter.
I am a mobile application developer and new MBP with its quite fans, fast CPU & GPU and long batter life made my daily work better. I really love it! Also I am happy with the return of the function keys! The best part is when I play games with it it runs faster then my old i9 MBP and doesn't get hot. The old one was almost not touchable when I play games with it. It was also getting crazy hot when I plug an external display to it, even if I don't play games.
For everything in the tech space, there is always a reason for not being on the latest hardware or software. But such innovations although sometimes disruptive can propel the industry forward and make people's lives better albeit in the long term.
Pro should be good for years to come as long as you aren’t doing intense graphical work. For audio editing the cpu is more important than the gpu which is the same in both. I have the M1 Pro 10/16 32 for Software Dev, although it isn’t my main computer yet.
@@Neoxon619 yeah, never go 8Gigs, even if it is M1 pro. Learnt that the hard way after mine crashed and restarted once every couple of times I ran a build from cold starts.
I’m a software developer in the robotics industry and my M1 Max MBP has been great. I’m one of the only Mac users at my company, since robotics is a generally Windows- and Linux-centric industry, but the tools I can use natively work great and ARM Linux VMs are incredibly speedy.
I bought a MacBook Pro in hopes to start making content and get back to the hobby I've loved for the longest time. So far, I absolutely love it. Is it for everyone? No. Does it help me? Yes. I think more or less it depends on what you need it to do, how you want to do them and what you use. You could get a cheep Chromebook for writing and such or you could get a Mac/PC for editing videos/photos or making music. It all comes down to the user. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
The "real world" rarely involves content creation. The youtube response to M1 pro/max has been universally focused on that. To a hammer, everything is a nail and to a youtuber the only function of a high end laptop is making a youtube video/song/image. Ya know what, Apple knows that and its focus is slowly moving away from anything but how many HEVC streams it can decode at a time. I'm a business owner and software dev. Not once have I used my MBP M1 Max for content creation and I feel like I'm not alone. I bought it based on gut and a positive experience with previous macbooks, would be nice if I got a review that focused on the "real world" I and many others experience
Agreed! It's honestly quite frustrating that so few people even mention MBP... or any computer for that matter, in context of anything outside content creation. Which, while useful to know for the sake of benchmarks, should really stop getting neglected.
In their defense they’re focusing on tasks that require the processing power of the highest end MBP. Besides content creation there isn’t much else that truthfully requires 32 gpu cores. Even software development and in my case CAD software can quite easily run on the lowest end of the MBP models. So for them to make a RUclips video titled “can a $4000 MBP max run my excel spreadsheet and compile some code” would be ridiculous. So of course they’re going to focus on the tasks that realistically DO require that power. I actually think it’s very beneficial to consumers of them to emphasize how much you don’t need an M1 max
What use is that? You can't game on a Mac, so why else would you need a pro machine? it is really good laptop to browse the web and watch RUclips on. My only complaint about MacBook Pro is that it is not one of the best machines for Blender. Anything else you want to create, you can. I will edit a future length movie on this machine and I am pretty sure that I will not run into any problems (as long as I don't have to do light clean up on after effects which is not optimized).
@@ishaukthedoc5686 How is it ridiculous? How long it takes to execute a SQL query or how many JSON docs a second it can process is extremely important to me. I need at least 32GB of ram to start up a JBOSS server and MongoDB on my local dev environment. How about creating Tableau extracts? Or moving files to an SD so I can configure a pi VPN server deployment? What about 2 Windows VMs each with multiple cores and four displays so I can monitor all of the servers in a cluster? Just cause you and RUclipsrs can't think of anything but Da Vinci resolve and blender, doesn't mean it doesn't have a use case in a professional environment
@@heyyou6154 It's a pro device. How long it takes to execute a SQL query or how many JSON docs a second it can process is extremely important to me. I need at least 32GB of ram to start up a JBOSS server and MongoDB on my local dev environment. How about creating Tableau extracts? Or moving files to an SD so I can configure a pi VPN server deployment? What about 2 Windows VMs each with multiple cores and four displays so I can monitor all of the servers in a cluster? Just cause you and RUclipsrs can't think of anything but Da Vinci resolve and blender, doesn't mean it doesn't have a use case in a professional environment
By watching just a few videos of MA I can't even tell that is a part of LMG; the clean white background, the narration, the B roll, the cuts everything just gives it a completely different aesthetic.
Lucky enough to be just getting into upper-level college courses and not having any major software incompatibility issues, but going from my 2015 base model MacBook air to this MacBook pro 14" has been incredible, at least for what I'm used to working on.
Loving this guy. He's so good at keeping viewers engaged till the end. Makes me wanna see other videos too like let's see how he walks us through this xyz product or service. Loved Apple One worth it or not video too. Keep up the good work man! You rock.
I am an Apple hater, I can't stand their company, ethics, or fan-boys. It still stings me to see such fantastic hardware just being wasted. The price might be wrong, but this is some impressive engineering. Also, Mac Address is wonderful.
It’s ironic because Samsung is just as big a tyrant (if not bigger) in South Korea as Apple is in the US. Really any company is the same wherever capitalism reigns. I think you’re just hating a company for the sake of hating them. Pointing out “fan-boys” as a reason is kind of… infantile?
As a back end developer, things are going surprisingly well. Basically all my tools, from JetBrains IDEs, to the JDK, to Docker, are all M1 native. It definitely runs way better than my previous 2015 Intel MBP
I’ve made the switch from Windows to Apple a couple of months ago when I bought my first MacBook Pro M1. I am a kind of productivity user that works 90% of the time on Microsoft office suite and the MacBook Pro has been just delivering what I expected: Speed and power with an incredible battery that for my usage last also two full days. My keys Microsoft teams is the Achilles heel of my set up because the app doesn’t support the M1 chip periods but the trick is to use the web based app which runs through Microsoft edge natively on M1. You have to trade off some of the functions of Microsoft teams but now the overall experience was much better Judy 100% compatibility and optimisation between performance and battery periods
What a cool video. As a music producer, I hate it when my 2016 Mac slows down and I either can't work on my project anymore or I have to jump through hoops to get by. I finally just pulled the trigger on the MBP 14". Now I just have to wait 2 months to get it.
I bought a Mac mini M1 as a private working from home machine without any real expectations. So far it does all I want with a huge ultrawide 49" screen connected to it. To work from home I basically do what my users do, use the Citrix Workspace app to connect to our environment. Everything just works fine but what surprises/annoys me is that even a big company like Citrix doesn't put in the effort to develop a native M1 client. Would it be better? It could be, it's hard to say without being able to test it. My autistic brain really has a hard time understanding why a company that wants to enable people to work anywhere from any device always is so slow to adapt new technology.
I would love to see this "apple stuff being used in real world applications" as a recurring theme. There's a bunch of stuff that benchmarks, showcases and spec sheets alone can't tell you
I dunno if this is off-brand for this channel but I would love to see a tag-team with Anthony where you test what is better for developers: mac or linux (maybe mention but exclude things like iOS development that are platform locked).
If you wanted to do a follow up video, I’m based in Canada, and I do live visuals for big EDM festival shows. Most of my industry has completely abandoned MacOS due to thermal limitations of running multiple layers of 4K video in real time live in a show. Reliability just hasn’t been there for MacBooks in last several years. In a live show environment where you’re running visuals on massive 100’ LED walls you need to have total reliability, no stuttering, multiple screen outputs at once. It really pushes your GPU. I dropped $5k on a maxed out 16” 2019 MacBook Pro, but have been considering trading it in for a M1 Max MacBook Pro, or even Mac Studio.
I've watched every video you've made on the channel and this is your BEST ONE YET. Awesome work! It was nice to see apps used that you wouldn't normally see in other videos. I use Unreal Engine on my M1 Max and you know what? not bad!
Man, you guys are the best and I super appreciate this channel. I do have to say though, the vast majority of audio producers don't use Reason. They use Ableton, Logic, Pro Tools, or Fl Studio - all of which have been optimized for M1. My 2022 Macbook Pro with the M1 Pro absolutely shreds in Logic Pro. Not to delegitimize this guy's experience. But it's not really representative of most audio professionals.
I am a Systems Administrator, and my specific trade is managing Macs with JAMF and iOS devices with Intune. I purchased a MBP14 personally, and wound up taking it back. I am not lacking knowledge in Apple Silicons limitations, but so much of what I do personally requires OS virtualization which is a hard stopping point on Apple silicon. Beyond the hardware limitations of virtualization, there are still massive software gaps and many developers are just walking. I could not justify paying nearly 3 grand on a device that was so limited for my use case.
I'm a journalist and author and I also do a ton of graphic design, podcast production, and some light video editing, My 14" MacBook Pro with M1 Pro (16 GB RAM) flies through all these tasks without any issues whatsoever. I used to do it all on a big PC with a 10th Gen i7, 16 GB RAM, and GeForce 1060 Ti GPU, but it would often hang up on video edits and particularly with Photoshop for some reason. I blame that sub-par GPU (the PC is getting old). Still, my Mac is quickly becoming my go-to computer, and I can take it with me everywhere. I'm even beginning to appreciate Mac OS, although I'll always have a soft spot for Windows. Just two cents from some random dude on the internet!
Can we get a part 2? We’ve seen how it does for music and video professionals, but what about programmers, or graphic artists? Or hell, what about other fields in IT?
I honestly would love to see a part two, where the team looks at 2D and/or 3D artists, and software developers of various trades. Maybe thrown in a mathematician with large data set projects to spice things up
Well, the problem is that 2D artists don't need that amount of power, and as for 3D, currently most of the software is not optimised. Like, if I'm not mistaken Blender, for example, still can't use natively GPU cores. And while not everyone uses blender, probably it's really common problem there
Edit: ok, it supports it now.
Well at least for deep learning its not as good as something with an RTX 3070 or RTX 3080. Just does not support features like special data formats as NVidia is using.
For 3D: Honestly the software is the limitation. Autodesk Inventor does not have a MacOS version. Neither does CATIA or SolidWorks. So the big 3 are not running under MAC. What do you want to test there? There is no professional software available for MacOS. The closest things is Fusion 360 but honestly that just does not compare to Inventor or SolidWorks.
For artists the only professional option I know is Maya. That you might be able to test.
Architects work on demanding 2D and 3D softwares constantly
@@THYMY_PAVLOVAS one of my friends is an architect. His work machine has an GTX 1650 with an 6 core i5.
And it is fast enough for everything. Ok not rendering, for that they use an extra server.
The vast majority of projects does not require that much power for architecture.
@@gonnabestupidbutactuallyno8295 On Oliur's review of the new Mac Studio he mentions that blender can now work with the GPU, he did some blender benchmarks on the M1 Ultra Mac Studio
I love all the LMG channels, but something about MA and Jonathan’s narration is very special. Great job as always.
Tbf this video was so well produced, better than what the other channels put out
@@gogobrasil7185 true but it's also because this channel actually has time to produce with one video per week schedule.
He definitely goes for a more story-based RUclips mini-documentary approach, which is nice regardless of the subject matter. Much more Vox-ish than nightly news.
I was gonna say that 😀😀
I'm not a Mac user and when MA started it felt LMG-like, but also a bit different from the other channels at the same time. As you mentioned it feels special in a very good way, I like it and watch it regularly.
Like the concept here but seem like it could be a multi-part series following more different types of creators.
Yeah I'd like to see some coders
@@elliotsharpe5448 I dunno man, coding is too code dependent for one to see if the device is good or not. Also I've coded on my galaxy tab a10.1 2016, so the base specs required are really low compared to what the MBpro should be able to do.
@@elliotsharpe5448 Coding is not something special honestly. That will run on any machine actually.
This is the most unique LMG channel. Fitting for Apple enthusiasts. Well done, Jonathan!
I keep seeing ‘LMG Channel’ What does LMG stand for in this context?
@@illinoisjones1125 Linus Media Group
@@illinoisjones1125 "linus media group"
@@toma01001 I am, thanks!
hi space chicken
Good video. Just like you mentioned, professional software is a big issue. I think it’s even hard for Adobe to catch up with Apple evolving hardware. But all these “legacy” ports on the MacBook is a good start
For sure I think it’s based on your use case. I ditched my 2013 Mac Pro for the M1 Mac mini for video editing in adobe premiere and it is a complete night and day difference how much more powerful it is
Adobe is always behind everybody
Not just Adobe, but Apple's pandering to creators only, with creator software lacking massively, is a market niche Apple is carving for people who simply don't care about computers, pretty much dropping a fat deuce on all the people who created the M1. Instead of exploring what that chip can do (and finally have a proper competitor to Nvidia Quadro), we have, well, what do we have? Nothing.
What is Apple's USP? Uselessness?
@@pleepler laptops that perform at their peak without being plugged into power?
Bullshit!!!!! It's not about Adobe catching up to Apple hardware but it's the multitude of hardware that is actually difficult to optimise on all platforms.
i love how consumer-focused this channel is and how a lot of channels are pivoting to more consumer-focused content!
edit: didn't know that there would be discourse on this, so to clarify: i meant that this video actually shows how the Mac fits into real-life use case scenarios, and not just only focusing on stating specs of the machine itself. thank you all for the opinions !
But isn't this producer focused since the video focused on 2 producers of music and video?
@@brianfong5711 I mean, they are the target audience for this product.
@@brianfong5711 did you expect them to give one to their kids to consume RUclips content?
The opposite of what you’re saying is what this video is.
@@manaspradhan8041 ah yes, the only two kind of people, producers and kids
I used to have a music production station just a tad above what the person in this video had but I use Ableton Live. For me even upgrading to the base model 14" was an astronomical change. Native support really makes or breaks the deal in music.
I am a Cubase user and as soon as I heard the next version of Cubase got M1 support, I was much more enticed to get a MacBook Air for mobile work. Now I have it and still have to wait for the Cubase upgrade because of monetary reasons, but it already feels like a great investment.
I mean yeah. Reason is fun for a hobbyist, but if you’re doing real time recording and actually trying to make music…… why?
I like a score for midi input so I use logic, but basically any software: Logic, Ableton, Cubase, Protools, Audition, etc…. is going to work better.
Sadly the person uses some weird stuff and not sure how much representative was that at all. M1 and M2 is fabulous for music production with low latency!
@@Nicole_Richards Bitwig too with native support and arguable better even than Ableton.
The last sequence had some next level editing!! Made me feel valued as a viewer and was pretty nice to watch!
Good job Mac address team 🙌
I love the anti-apple fanboyism of this channel. It feels like so many other reviewers are so quick to sing their praises and talk up the product. I love the impartiality of this channel/company as a whole.
I don't see it as "anti-apple fanboyism" as much as looking at Apple products in real-world use. Johnathan seems like someone who likes Apple, and their products, but is also able to look at their flaws objectively. That's different from being anti-Apple and saying everything they make is c***
Maybe he means anti “apple fanboyism” not “anti apple” fanboyism
@@willstw this 👆
@@arthuralford I think you misunderstand. I love the impartiality of the reviewers here. I am an iOS dev and (regrettably) own way more apple devices right now than most would get in their lifetime. I am used to seeing reviewers like Max Tech talk up apple products more than impartially scrutinize.
My job requires I get apple products but I’m far from a fanboy and have much disdain for their lack of practicality in many of their design decisions. I think if more reviewers criticized we’d get apple to listen more. Which seems to be what apple is starting to do (wrt rolling back stupid design decisions of MBPs).
When you are using a computer to work on projects and/or make you money, you are much more critical when things go south. I use my Thinkpad P52 every day and I am not fanboy of Lenovo or anything, it just works for what I am doing and I would recommend to any engineer who would ask me. I don't care about a brand, I care about how it works. And creators using Macs would have the same opinion, I guess.
The audio latency part is highly dependent on what audio interface you're using.
With RME audio interfaces you can achieve 64 samples (5ms round trip) without pops or stutters on a mid to high tier PC or Mac. Even with low end Focusrite interfaces you can achieve sub 10ms round trip with good performance using their AISO driver.
His problem comes from using the built-in audio system, I'm a bit floored that any musician would do this.
the inbuilt drivers in macos are most compatible with other apps, i haven't used an asio soundcard with macos yet but on windows it would immediately botch all other applications from using audio
though yeah i agree if latency is something you're worried about and you're doing a bunch of recording (both audio and midi) i dont get why you'd use the standard coreaudio driver
Asio is a windows driver not a mac driver, Macos uses Audio Core driver which is a native Apple driver compatible with pro Audio interfaces and the built in interface. With Logic, I never had any issues even on my biggest projects.
There are a lot of factors that might affect the way the DAW behave.
It can be but he had a ton of vst's and vsti's loaded, he was maxing DSP which in a purely CPU environment means CPU resources, this wasn't a matter of the interface not keeping up. The lower the buffer size, the faster all those software instruments and effects have to deliver the goods.. running probably all of them through Rosetta can very quickly mean problems.
I saw a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 on his desk
@@penisdubs Yeah it really depends on the interface, I know with my Focusrite interferfaces of my past when using AISO the application would hog the entire soundcard. With RME interfaces all ins / outs can be used in multiple applications at once even with multiple applications pulling ASIO and MME at the same time on Windows.
RME interfaces extract a heavy toll, however 🤑
Really beautifully edited video guys! Also Jonathan's face as he instantly loses all respect for his friend at 8:35 for getting a Space Grey one is absolutely priceless.
This.
Space Grey would be my choice.
Hey Jonathan! First off, I always enjoy the visual quality of Mac Address videos. Second, and the reason I'm commenting, is that the audio issues that Andrew was having MAY (and I'm including that caveat because of my limited experience) come down to the interface he's using (assuming he's using an external interface, anyway). IT may not be powerful enough to handle the processing of the smaller sample sizes. I've found output capability differences between different tier interfaces that I've used, so... maybe he's having the same problem.
Any audio interface (including built in one) runs through CoreAudio so that’s not the reason.
(I’m not saying there’s no difference between interfaces in that manner but it’s negligible)
@@mrGood-84 That's true if they are class compliant. Otherwise, the way Interfaces will perform at different buffer sizes can still come down to their drivers. We've tested Cubase Pro 11 under Rosetta on an M1 Mac Mini, and while a song with about 50 tracks ran stutter-free on a Focusrite Saffire 6i6, we've had terrible performance with a UA Apollo Twin X. Tested the same on an Intel Mac and they both ran fine. So it seems that UAs drivers still aren't up to scratch (or weren't at the time of testing) for the new chip architecture.
I was wondering if he was using an interface with external dsp processing?
@@nicholasbinder5593 Strange. I own Apollo Twin mk1 and it's running the same as it did on my Intel MBP.
UA software still runs under Rosetta though....
@@mrGood-84 It's been about a year since we did these tests, afaik UA released driver updates in the meantime.
I’ve used Reason for two decades now and I’m looking forward to upgrade to an arm mac. But I know Reason isn’t ready yet for native support of the M1 and up yet. So I look at this as an “fixed” match. There is a lot of music software companies that’s not ready yet. I had this problem when going from MacOS 9 to 10.
Did you have the same problem going to intel?
@@robertt9342 that transition went easier and faster. We’ll see how they can stick to their new timeline and deliver M1 support before the summer. I need to upgrade my computer, but I will wait for an Mac mini with the M2 chip. I’d like to see some Mac Studio features trickle down to the mini and maybe that you can choose a Pro chip. We’ll see what Tim will do.
@@thomasdernederlanden hey what genre of music do you produce, I’m getting into music production and am also waiting for m2 max mini
Reason Studios are just awful these days. All about pumping out more unneeded Rack Extensions and sound packs instead of fixing the core program.
I'm surprised that it would actually run slower on M1 than on a 2015 MacBook Pro. Personally I went from a 2015 MacBook Pro, fully loaded, to an MacBook Air M1, and while everything native was incredibly fast, performance on older x86 apps, in most cases, felt about the same or slightly more responsive. I guess that translation layer needs some help with the more complex multimedia apps. In any case, at some point you'd think they'd update it to native M1, in which case any performance bottle necks should be removed. But it's not bad advice to wait a bit longer if there's something in particular you're using that doesn't yet work.
I'd like to see a look into how 3D artists feel about the M1 Ultra Mac Studio. Apple hyped it up as a powerhouse for 3D, but the benchmarks in Blender 3.1 seem really underwhelming.
I kept saying this shit ever since the m1 chipset release the m1 chip is all bark no bite simple 1st party apps are awsome with it but what about 3rd party apps
@@ezronthelegend it's the third party software maker's job to support the hardware and make good use of it if they want that market. If they don't care, you just look for some other app
@@manaspradhan8041 true, but in the case of Blender, Apple contributed the Metal compatibility themselves and it's still pretty meh performance. I think there might be a fundamental flaw with M1 that makes it less effective for 3D rendering.
@@ezronthelegend I provisionally disagree, because look at what it’s replacing in its price range: the Intel chips that came before it also made lofty promises and underdelivered (given what you’re paying for), so at the base M1 level, the chips are great.
The Pro/Max/Ultra levels however, are a different story. They are priced to compete with hybrid systems (read: those with a discrete GPU), yet their price-to-performance is pretty lousy.
TBF to Apple, the first-gen Intel lineup by-and-large didn’t set the world on fire either, and the same applies to the chips used in their early iPhones and iPads, so while the M1 is a solid start, I’d probably wait until the M2X or M3X before getting a higher-end product.
@@manaspradhan8041 You can’t just change your workflow and pipeline in a studio just because your new hardware isn’t handling it well.
I would turn it around. Apple should adept and make hardware and software people can use in existing pipelines.
You can’t say to a studio full of people working in a program, you have to change all to different software because we bought new hardware.
I love the addition of audio engineers to the benchmarking. I feel like the audio engineer space is really big on youtube, yet doesnt get enough love from the youtube reviewer channels. Would of loved to see how the ableton live sample rate would of varied from the old MacBook vs the new ones.
I think the music industry DAWs are quite good on Apple Silicon but it's the plug ins that they rely on that are the cause of loads of problems. I think they're often made by small companies so they can't move it over quickly as such .Part two with a video editor / 2D + 3D artist / & programmer would be amazing! Great vid!
Damn, this was a really well produced video! So interesting and pleasant to watch. Keep on this direction, definitely one of the best I've seen here on RUclips!
About the Mac, I guess it really comes down to your use case. It's probably still on that level where it makes more sense for actual professionals who happen to use a software that's good on the M1. Although its features are really tempting. I hope they, along with the design, make their way over to the cheaper models.
Loved the shots and the colors.
Love the collaboration of actual Pros for pro products. Loved the Apple pencil vid and loved this one too. Good to see that someone acknowledges that these machines can be used for way more than video editing.
Really great video guys. I need an upgrade for my recording rig [2013 MBP] but the software is still so far behind. For me, I’m contemplating an M1 Air purchase to test everything on and THEN buying a Studio once I can confirm all software is ready to go. The form factor and hardware is fantastic but the time/extra cost involved with this transition is large for some in the audio space. Although most DAW’s are supported, it’s the plugin’s/extra’s that aren’t optimised and are often are made by smaller developers who aren’t resourced enough to transition at any pace. In a professional environment these are all risks that never feel great taking.
What plugins do you use most? I have almost 0 issues.
There's rumours about a new air with an M2 chip coming later this year. You might wanna wait for that.
Finally someone (from big players on yt) who addresses music production and problem with buffer size! Thank you for your time and effort. Great video!
I like the idea that LMG can expand into content outside of the knoleagble gamer that they normally write for. While thats not a bad thing and i am one of those people this is something different that other types of techies can get into and it has a different feel to everything else LMG makes.
Just a note about audio work:
Just like Viiola Bloom, i upgraded from a mid 2014 15" MBP (shares same everything with the 2015 model except graphics and ssd) to a M1 Pro. But my daw of choice is Ableton, which is now M1 optimized.
At first, just by watching the app's cpu meter, I didn't notice any significant benefit, but then, opening the same, huuge project, I noticed that the old mac just couldn't even playback, while the M1 was flying.
One really absurd thing is that with the M1 you get lower CPU usage by reducing buffer size! That is nonsense crazy. It may be a CPU meter error, but anyways I can now use ridicolous buffer sizes like 64, with almost no latencies, and basically do almost whatever I want without caring about performance issues and without fans spinning all the time.
I think the biggest issue with this video is that it failed to explain optimization within a DAW. There are many things that can be done to reduce latency such as bouncing down VSTis to audio tracks etc. If this person was using Logic or Studio One I'm sure the results would have been way more in his favor.
@@eddielucitt yes they just briefly said that they were using an old, not-m1-native version of Reason, but they didn’t had a chance to show how a native daw performs.
Another, not mentioned, important thing to keep in mind when upgrading to Apple Silicon is the audio interface compatibility, especially if you’re using relatively old devices: atm there are just a few that can deliver full functionality and drivers. Many will work, but with class-compliant drivers (that could mean less routings/less i-o/less samplerates & bit depths available).
It may not be a problem for many, but for who has relatively old hardware (audio interfaces don’t get obsolete as quickly as many other devices) could mean also a gear update.
In my case, i had to keep my old mac running to use an old firewire interface (fw is no longer compatible with M1) that I can’t ditch because i love the sound of those specific preamps for some applications.
@@frammenzio I’m curious if you looked into a Thunderbolt to FireWire adapter? A lot of them use the TB1 and TB2 connector AKA miniDP and would need a further adapter to USB-C, but one of the selling points when Apple first added Thunderbolt a little over a decade ago was high FW800 compatibility.
That said, I’m looking to upgrade but will be keeping my 2012 i7 around anyway for 32-bit plug-ins and may want to route audio through it via optical almost like a big guitar pedal, so I can definitely understand keeping the old machine around for some purposes no matter what!
@@kaitlyn__L I already have a fw adapter, but with the new Apple Silicon architecture they completely ditched fw protocol.
So it's not just a connector problem, fw devices simply can no longer communicate with the latest macs.
That fw800->thunderbolt->usbc method works only till the latest intel macs.
So, keeping "oldware" is the way to go, as always!
@@frammenzio oh jeez, I’ve not seen anyone mention that the M1/2 Thunderbolt implementation dropped it! That sucks, but also thank you for telling me. Just another reason to keep my current machine with TB1 and FW800.
So glad you guys came out with this video. I work on broadway musicals and a lot within the industry have been umming and ahing about the new MacBook pros. We heavily rely on particular software, like Reason, that's specifically built for theatre operations, hence, is far more niche and therefore can't get the instant software fixes for the M1 architecture. Was very interesting seeing how massive of a problem that software barrier can be with complex and niche apps, I mean 4000 samples is ridiculous, and frankly unusable in many cases.
I switched from a Ryzen 7 2700x to an M1 air. It wasn't a planned upgrade, LTT got me curious because they were shockingly positive about something Apple made.
Once I got around the software issues (you really need to be ready to change the software you work with) I started loving the thing and noticed I was actually more productive.
Productive enough to buy an M1 mini as well. They are the 'good old' M1 with 16gb so not exactly the powerhouses we get in 2022, but it's insane how easily they outperform my Ryzen 2700x with 32gb of ram and a 1660 for audio, video and photo editing. And in my case it's all still going through Rosetta because I just cannot final cut :D.
As an all-round creative, I’ve switched from a Mac Pro 2019 to a MacBook Pro M1 Max. Honestly, it’s been a great change so far. Premiere / After Effects projects that struggled with the Mac Pro are buttery smooth now, and overall I don’t miss the Intel + ATI combination at all. I can do more, faster and now fully portable.
Creative Suite works fine in general, and I’m confident that software optimization will improve with time. So far I’m pretty happy with the transition, for me it’s worth the investment.
Is After Effects working well? I thought it doesn’t work natively
@@estycki Beta version is M1 native, but I use the most up-to-date one with Rosetta and it works without any issue. Performance is already better than on my previous Intel Mac Pro, so in theory this can only improve with future releases.
Thank you for shedding light on this. There is little to no talk about how rough professional software is right now, even just on Intel Macs.
Apple Silicon just complicates this more, unfortunately. There becomes much work needed to fix software, which some (big) developers neglect.
The production quality of this channel is next level. Keep up the quality work!
Big thumbs up for including Audio production, more of this!
What I like about all the LMG videos is how you get to know the people working there. For example, I'm a big fan of the "tech upgrade" videos on LTT. At first I thought MA would be much more separate from the rest, but it incorporates the non-hosts much more than the others! I don't own any Apple hardware other than a broken ipod touch from 2011 or so, but I'm starting to enjoy this channel anyway.
Please make more videos like this with the new Apple devices.
It's very nice to see a very well define video when talking about the relationship between Apple Devices and Pro users.
I’ve been working at a video production studio for a couple of weeks now and they replaced almost their entire lineup of workstation macs with M1 Max macbooks and editing uncrompressed RAW 4K 100fps footage on there, it flies trough it it’s incredible
8 am in Turkey. Perfect timing.
I love that you still published the video even though it wasn't what you expected. Really makes us trust y'all at LMG. :)
I found this to be really interesting but would love to see it expanded upon even more. I have always been a Mac fan, but have never been able to justify the switch not only just because of the price but also because of the compatibility with other hardware and such. A series on a long time Windows builder/user being encouraged to switch and the process of getting all their existing hardware working on the Mac would be interesting.
On the new M1 Pro, using Logic Pro is so much quicker and you can properly load multiple tracks on the timeline, as many different sound packs you need and it doesn’t skip a beat. This thing is very impressive, but only if you’re using apple proprietary products, or a really well optimised product like FL Studio
I use MOTU audio interfaces for music recording, and they're usually one macOS version behind with their drivers (as are many DAW manufacturers). Sure, the existing drivers *usually* work with the latest macOS, but isn't worth attempting an OS upgrade right away just in case it has to be downgraded again.
That's not even addressing the Apple Silicon architecture change. It took until late 2021 before most of MOTU's line-up was supported on M1. And it's looking like legacy hardware will never be supported on it.
For digital audio, low latency operation is paramount and developing new drivers always has the manufacturers playing catch-up whenever there's a major OS or architecture change.
I'm a software developer and got a 16-inch MacBook Pro with M1 Max. It's great, super fast and super quiet, and when I look back at my previous Dell laptop it suddenly looks horribly outdated, while just a few months ago I was still happy with it.
Almost all of the tools I need to do my job work fine on the MacBook Pro. There's just one thing that I need for one of my clients, and that's the Oracle database. It's almost impossible / very difficult to get working on Apple Silicon. There's no ARM version and the regular x86 version does not work on Rosetta (according to Oracle because of a limitation in Rosetta...?). So I'm now running the database on a separate Intel machine that I connect to from the MacBook Pro.
This was by far the best video on the channel so far. Thank you for making it.
I kinda always ignored this channel since Mac's aren't my thing very much, but watching a bit lately the videos are all top notch and just suck you in!
I love the humor other LMG channels have but this more professional take (and more applicable to real life videos) are great!
Just tell that guy to use Logic Pro X💥
These videos are a cut above pretty much any other Mac content out there
Interesting. Not the outcomes I was expecting. In my case, I'm sticking with Intel CPUs because I have a number of Intel-based VMs that I run under Parallels. Perhaps my need for these VMs will go away, at which time my ties to Intel will be broken and then I can consider upgrading.
Btw my experience on Logic Pro coming from a 16 inch MBP with i7 was transformational. Projects that would not play at all in certain moments where they'd totally crash at 1024 buffer size can now play easily at 256 which is within record range
He is more creative than Linus
There are just some programs that simply don’t exist for MacOS, for example SolidWorks. So as great as a Mac is for many people, if you study or work in anything technology based, make sure every required program has a Mac version available.
i love how producer-focused this channel is and how a lot of channels are pivoting to more producer-focused content!
Finally someone using the Macbooks in a proper real world context.
I had to return my Mac due to similar issues with music production - it was idosyncratic.
EDIT : I can't blame Apple - the Macbook otherwise felt far more modern than anything I have currently. Maybe in the next few years - it'll finally come to maturity, but I have my doubts given how AMD and Intel are making leaps and bounds in Performance.
Apple's issue is that it's only leapfrogged their competitors due to them bagging all the TSMC 5nm capacity early on. Once Intel's ARC are on 5nm, things might turn out quite differenlty.
That very last quote says a lot about the MacBook Pro that I really never realized. It's funny because it almost feels like the MacBook Pro is marketed towards people who want to be professionals but don't fully realize the kinda power it takes to do the things they dream of doing.
I like how Mac Address do these kinds of videos so people can choose better and easier.
I'm a cyber security student trying to get CompTIA certifications and I love the M1 Macbook Pro 14" with M1 Pro chip 16GB because I can run virtual versions of Mac, Linux, and Windows all at once and it runs smoothly with parallels. I even tried to intentionally choke it with RUclips videos and Disney+ on all 3 operating systems and it handled it with only 13GB RAM usage. Very impressed. Mines a $2500 configuration 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM.
Worth noting with the DAW example is that, if you're mostly happy with the sounds you have, you can render that track in place (in most DAWs) and then you can turn off the plugins you were using, thus saving CPU resources. Cubase, Reaper, Pro Tools, Ableton, and Apple's own Logic all have a feature like this, and for DAWs that don't (Like older versions of Harrison Mixbus), you can mute everything except the track you're happy with and render that in a lossless format, then reimport it on a new track and disable plugins on the original.
ALSO Worth noting is that some interfaces have their own DSP chips built in that can handle effects rendering, acting as a coprocessor (UAD Apollo comes to mind)
The way Andrew's been working in this video is so inefficient that it feels intentional
Great and realistic review buuuuut - very problem specific IMO.
Yes, the software lags behind (as always). Is that a general case? Hell no!
I use Logic and Studio One DAWs and buuuumch of third party plugin software and I’ve gained noticeable performance gains compared to my previous 15” 2017 i7 2.8ghz mbp even if some of them (still) run in Rosetta. And it’s dead quiet and has at least 2x more battery potential while running those intense projects.
Adobe is well known for making shitty software and when you compare how Capture One, DaVinci Resolve and Affinity suite run on M1, it’s even more sad.
Exactly, this guy is using software from the Stone Age. Im surprised that it made it through the 64bit transition
@@Vageta1999 in general you do expect older software to run faster on newer hardware. But it seems like there are quite a few issues getting the software to run without hickups. Issues like not being able to use certain features and running plugins/extension/drivers. I've been looking to buying the M1 but I will probably wait until the software support is more matured and get the M2.
musician here. i'm on an m1 macbook air (16gb ram) and i run my sessions almost entirely on a 64 sample buffer, on ableton live (m1 native) *and* pro tools (rosetta). so the outdated reason version is almost certainly the problem. & he should make sure his audio *drivers* are up to date & m1 native.
also: i've recently seen that reason (the rack instruments/effects) has been released as a plugin, which you can use in other daws. so your friend might do well to try reason hosted in a different daw... ableton, logic, and reaper are all m1 native, maybe others.
anyway thanks for including us! most of these performance videos only cover video editing...
wow this was a real world level that I had no expectations and was still surprised by the results.
One use case is "software is garbage might as well upgrade."
the other is "Its great but not at that price tag."
and I agree, if $4000 will get you a water cooled Threadripper and color graded peripherals that is nearly 60% faster for your specific workload, why buy the macbook?
plus people get suckered into the cool factor of laptops but do they really need one? I guess if you want to pay the premium to take it to the coffee shop?
It’s a little weird and unfair to compare a laptop to a desktop, rather than another laptop, for any use case. Still, you might consider the MacBook for a couple of reasons. Noise, power draw, and portability.
If you’re getting 70% of the performance of a huge, power hungry desktop in a package you can throw in a backpack and take with you, and operate at full speed on BATTERY power for 5-8 hours with no need to be near an outlet.. that could be game changing for people who work from home or travel.
If you ONLY work at an office space with a static setup.. why look at any laptop? At that point the M1 Ultra Mac Studio would be a more apt, and fascinating, comparison.
@@thenoobperspective7588 fair enough, if you have limited space or travel or need silence or are locked into the apple ecosystem then your argument is valid.
If you finished watching the video, clearly an option presented as macbook or desktop, and desktop was chosen. Not for features, or compact, or noise but price tag.
As great as the mbp is, it's not worth $4000.
@@christiaanventer8183 I thought it was 2300? Also if you got that the choice was MacBook or desktop out of the video, you might need to get your head checked out. They literally tell you the takeaway in the title.
I mean, I have a fancy water cooled pc that can run with way more performance than my MacBook, but the last time I checked, I can’t use it in a car, train, class or public settings. If people were to have a single computer, the vast majority would prefer a laptop. Sacrificing power for versatility is pretty much the standard.
As a audio engineer, his experience is very relatable. So many audio programs (DAWs, plugins, controller software, drivers) are way behind. Sometimes due to architecture like Intel vs M1, but also due to the newer OS.
Thanks for uploading at 1 AM…
wdym, it's 10:30 am
It’s midnight for me.
In India it's 10 30
wdym? its morning dude.
5 am here
This small documentary is nex gen video production. We need part 2 of this.
I get that it's largely based on availability of people you know, as LMG's professional contacts aren't likely to include music producers. However, I think you've debased the entire premise of this video by assessing people who aren't using the most popular software package for the platform. How can we say that music producers aren't going to get the instant jolt of benefit if most of them are using Ableton?
I'd like to see more content focusing on _in the wild_ situations, but I don't think this video hit the mark for that.
I get your line of reasoning for "in the wild" use cases, but haven't other creators and reviewers (including other LMG channels) already covered M1 MBP impressions, benchmarks in their reviews? I'm guessing Mac Address ran with this narrative to differentiate themselves from other M1 MBP content
What dude? The entire premise of this video is that software development outside of the most popular apps has been slow to embrace M1. He actually would have debased his premise if he had focused on an Ableton user as you suggest.
I'm not a creative professional, but I make music in ableton live 11. I've been using a windows based computer my entire musical life. That changed after my 1 year old high end windows laptop performance had gotten worse, after I installed the new ableton version. I tried every trick I could think of to get it to play nice, but I was still having issues with freezing and crashing. I ended up selling that laptop and moving to an macbook pro (m1 pro). and ableton runs AMAZING on it. Very happy with my purchase so far!
also hoping there’s a version for students and those who rely on macbooks or laptops for everyday work!
Poor Andrew I really felt it was gonna blow him away and make his life a lot easier
I think there's something else going wrong in that scenario. I bought my first ever Mac computer with the 2020 M1 Air and moved my music production hardware and software over and saw nothing but benefits. There were some compatibility issues early on but that was mainly from the version of the OS rather than an M1 issue. All was resolved within a couple months and to this day I haven't had issues and everything has worked, and have only gotten better as these updates rolled out.
That last sequence where Hoffman said "if you're not in a professional environment" is 100% accurate. As someone who uses an 16" M1 Max 10/32 64GB for work, it would be a complete waste of money if I wasn't using it in the environment I do.
Appreciate the attempt to represent some real world usage in music… but Reason is such an uncommon choice and sort of a waste of time to examine so closely when apps like Pro Tools, Logic and Ableton are by far the dominant environments in that world.
Came to same thing. I’ve never even heard of it until this vid and I’ve produced legit songs for people.
@@Vageta1999 reason has been around for years. As a producer you really should have known about it.
The cinematography was REALLY good. I really enjoyed watching the video. I've seriously never written that before on another video.
I’m an audio & music professional here, and I’ve gotta say that the audio information in this video is quite misleading. I think it would’ve been much more real world and useful if more people could’ve shared their experiences (audio and video too). I’ve been working on music specially for more than 7 years, and I’ve used several versions of the macbook pro. With the M1 Max, I’m able to use even 32/64 samples for recording with no hiccups, pushing it to 512/1024 in big projects (2048 as a desperate measure for really, really demanding ones). Inside that margin, it works. With the M1 (base), some projects were barely playable, and on the 2016 macbook pro it just wasn’t feasible. All this using Ableton, Pro Tools or Logic through Rosetta. Reason just turns out to be a really bad choice for a video like this (there are many other professional tools to check before that one). It really depends on the workflow and count of tracks/virtual instruments, and no info is given on that matter.
Thank you for pointing that out
Man I love this sort of documentary style videos you got going on here, like the pencil one. Keep it up!
I am a mobile application developer and new MBP with its quite fans, fast CPU & GPU and long batter life made my daily work better. I really love it!
Also I am happy with the return of the function keys! The best part is when I play games with it it runs faster then my old i9 MBP and doesn't get hot.
The old one was almost not touchable when I play games with it. It was also getting crazy hot when I plug an external display to it, even if I don't play games.
For everything in the tech space, there is always a reason for not being on the latest hardware or software. But such innovations although sometimes disruptive can propel the industry forward and make people's lives better albeit in the long term.
As someone who does software development with a bit of audio editing on the side, would the M1 Pro suffice or should I go for the M1 Max?
If you have doubt then you don't need max.
Pro should be good for years to come as long as you aren’t doing intense graphical work. For audio editing the cpu is more important than the gpu which is the same in both. I have the M1 Pro 10/16 32 for Software Dev, although it isn’t my main computer yet.
@@aditya_gupta RAM is my biggest concern on the software development side of things.
@@Neoxon619 yeah, never go 8Gigs, even if it is M1 pro. Learnt that the hard way after mine crashed and restarted once every couple of times I ran a build from cold starts.
@@arkayv m1 pro base is 16
I’m a software developer in the robotics industry and my M1 Max MBP has been great. I’m one of the only Mac users at my company, since robotics is a generally Windows- and Linux-centric industry, but the tools I can use natively work great and ARM Linux VMs are incredibly speedy.
I bought a MacBook Pro in hopes to start making content and get back to the hobby I've loved for the longest time. So far, I absolutely love it.
Is it for everyone? No. Does it help me? Yes.
I think more or less it depends on what you need it to do, how you want to do them and what you use.
You could get a cheep Chromebook for writing and such or you could get a Mac/PC for editing videos/photos or making music. It all comes down to the user.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Who up, contemplating, thinking, posting they tech videos at 10:04 PM on St. Patrick's Day... cry all over that like button
This is probably the best Apple channel. Looking at Apple products from enthusiast and practical POV without being a blind fanboy.
The "real world" rarely involves content creation. The youtube response to M1 pro/max has been universally focused on that. To a hammer, everything is a nail and to a youtuber the only function of a high end laptop is making a youtube video/song/image. Ya know what, Apple knows that and its focus is slowly moving away from anything but how many HEVC streams it can decode at a time. I'm a business owner and software dev. Not once have I used my MBP M1 Max for content creation and I feel like I'm not alone. I bought it based on gut and a positive experience with previous macbooks, would be nice if I got a review that focused on the "real world" I and many others experience
Agreed! It's honestly quite frustrating that so few people even mention MBP... or any computer for that matter, in context of anything outside content creation. Which, while useful to know for the sake of benchmarks, should really stop getting neglected.
In their defense they’re focusing on tasks that require the processing power of the highest end MBP. Besides content creation there isn’t much else that truthfully requires 32 gpu cores. Even software development and in my case CAD software can quite easily run on the lowest end of the MBP models.
So for them to make a RUclips video titled “can a $4000 MBP max run my excel spreadsheet and compile some code” would be ridiculous. So of course they’re going to focus on the tasks that realistically DO require that power. I actually think it’s very beneficial to consumers of them to emphasize how much you don’t need an M1 max
What use is that? You can't game on a Mac, so why else would you need a pro machine? it is really good laptop to browse the web and watch RUclips on.
My only complaint about MacBook Pro is that it is not one of the best machines for Blender. Anything else you want to create, you can. I will edit a future length movie on this machine and I am pretty sure that I will not run into any problems (as long as I don't have to do light clean up on after effects which is not optimized).
@@ishaukthedoc5686 How is it ridiculous? How long it takes to execute a SQL query or how many JSON docs a second it can process is extremely important to me. I need at least 32GB of ram to start up a JBOSS server and MongoDB on my local dev environment. How about creating Tableau extracts? Or moving files to an SD so I can configure a pi VPN server deployment? What about 2 Windows VMs each with multiple cores and four displays so I can monitor all of the servers in a cluster? Just cause you and RUclipsrs can't think of anything but Da Vinci resolve and blender, doesn't mean it doesn't have a use case in a professional environment
@@heyyou6154 It's a pro device. How long it takes to execute a SQL query or how many JSON docs a second it can process is extremely important to me. I need at least 32GB of ram to start up a JBOSS server and MongoDB on my local dev environment. How about creating Tableau extracts? Or moving files to an SD so I can configure a pi VPN server deployment? What about 2 Windows VMs each with multiple cores and four displays so I can monitor all of the servers in a cluster? Just cause you and RUclipsrs can't think of anything but Da Vinci resolve and blender, doesn't mean it doesn't have a use case in a professional environment
By watching just a few videos of MA I can't even tell that is a part of LMG; the clean white background, the narration, the B roll, the cuts everything just gives it a completely different aesthetic.
Lucky enough to be just getting into upper-level college courses and not having any major software incompatibility issues, but going from my 2015 base model MacBook air to this MacBook pro 14" has been incredible, at least for what I'm used to working on.
Loving this guy. He's so good at keeping viewers engaged till the end. Makes me wanna see other videos too like let's see how he walks us through this xyz product or service. Loved Apple One worth it or not video too. Keep up the good work man! You rock.
I am an Apple hater, I can't stand their company, ethics, or fan-boys. It still stings me to see such fantastic hardware just being wasted. The price might be wrong, but this is some impressive engineering. Also, Mac Address is wonderful.
It’s ironic because Samsung is just as big a tyrant (if not bigger) in South Korea as Apple is in the US. Really any company is the same wherever capitalism reigns. I think you’re just hating a company for the sake of hating them. Pointing out “fan-boys” as a reason is kind of… infantile?
@@Ozzymandius1 don't get me started on Samsung...lol
A hater and fanboy are yin and yang of the same turd imo
Because Intel and Samsung are wonderful companies 😂😂😂😂
You got brainwashed by the PC fanbois community. Some people just hate because … they can.
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu you're obviously a fanboy, why would I mention garbage Samsung or Intel on a Mac channel...think before you comment.
Ltt needs to bring you into there video production, that segment was so well done.
Some times it doesnt matter how fast the computer is or how many cores it has, when the software doesnt even support it.
As a back end developer, things are going surprisingly well. Basically all my tools, from JetBrains IDEs, to the JDK, to Docker, are all M1 native. It definitely runs way better than my previous 2015 Intel MBP
THANK YOU for including music production!!!
I’ve made the switch from Windows to Apple a couple of months ago when I bought my first MacBook Pro M1. I am a kind of productivity user that works 90% of the time on Microsoft office suite and the MacBook Pro has been just delivering what I expected: Speed and power with an incredible battery that for my usage last also two full days.
My keys Microsoft teams is the Achilles heel of my set up because the app doesn’t support the M1 chip periods but the trick is to use the web based app which runs through Microsoft edge natively on M1.
You have to trade off some of the functions of Microsoft teams but now the overall experience was much better Judy 100% compatibility and optimisation between performance and battery periods
This is great after discovering that Hoffman already snagged 2 macbooks from work at his house during the intel upgrade.
What a cool video. As a music producer, I hate it when my 2016 Mac slows down and I either can't work on my project anymore or I have to jump through hoops to get by. I finally just pulled the trigger on the MBP 14". Now I just have to wait 2 months to get it.
I bought a Mac mini M1 as a private working from home machine without any real expectations. So far it does all I want with a huge ultrawide 49" screen connected to it.
To work from home I basically do what my users do, use the Citrix Workspace app to connect to our environment.
Everything just works fine but what surprises/annoys me is that even a big company like Citrix doesn't put in the effort to develop a native M1 client. Would it be better? It could be, it's hard to say without being able to test it. My autistic brain really has a hard time understanding why a company that wants to enable people to work anywhere from any device always is so slow to adapt new technology.
I really love that you put tool in the professional's hands, the people who actually would make use of it.
I would love to see this "apple stuff being used in real world applications" as a recurring theme. There's a bunch of stuff that benchmarks, showcases and spec sheets alone can't tell you
The name of the song in the end sequence is Strings Across Moon by Anacole Daalderop
this was very well done! i loved how this was written and presented, great job for everyone who worked on this!
I dunno if this is off-brand for this channel but I would love to see a tag-team with Anthony where you test what is better for developers: mac or linux (maybe mention but exclude things like iOS development that are platform locked).
If you wanted to do a follow up video, I’m based in Canada, and I do live visuals for big EDM festival shows. Most of my industry has completely abandoned MacOS due to thermal limitations of running multiple layers of 4K video in real time live in a show. Reliability just hasn’t been there for MacBooks in last several years. In a live show environment where you’re running visuals on massive 100’ LED walls you need to have total reliability, no stuttering, multiple screen outputs at once. It really pushes your GPU. I dropped $5k on a maxed out 16” 2019 MacBook Pro, but have been considering trading it in for a M1 Max MacBook Pro, or even Mac Studio.
Btw the software I use is Resolume Arena. Have to convert all footage to DXV3 codec in Resolume Alley.
the video concept looks raw/natural it's refreshing..
Did Viiola Bloom stop making music? This video is more than a year old, but he hasn't released a single song on Spotify.
I've watched every video you've made on the channel and this is your BEST ONE YET. Awesome work! It was nice to see apps used that you wouldn't normally see in other videos. I use Unreal Engine on my M1 Max and you know what? not bad!
I love this last videos showing the products in use.
Man, you guys are the best and I super appreciate this channel.
I do have to say though, the vast majority of audio producers don't use Reason. They use Ableton, Logic, Pro Tools, or Fl Studio - all of which have been optimized for M1. My 2022 Macbook Pro with the M1 Pro absolutely shreds in Logic Pro.
Not to delegitimize this guy's experience. But it's not really representative of most audio professionals.
I am a Systems Administrator, and my specific trade is managing Macs with JAMF and iOS devices with Intune. I purchased a MBP14 personally, and wound up taking it back. I am not lacking knowledge in Apple Silicons limitations, but so much of what I do personally requires OS virtualization which is a hard stopping point on Apple silicon. Beyond the hardware limitations of virtualization, there are still massive software gaps and many developers are just walking. I could not justify paying nearly 3 grand on a device that was so limited for my use case.
I'm a journalist and author and I also do a ton of graphic design, podcast production, and some light video editing, My 14" MacBook Pro with M1 Pro (16 GB RAM) flies through all these tasks without any issues whatsoever.
I used to do it all on a big PC with a 10th Gen i7, 16 GB RAM, and GeForce 1060 Ti GPU, but it would often hang up on video edits and particularly with Photoshop for some reason. I blame that sub-par GPU (the PC is getting old). Still, my Mac is quickly becoming my go-to computer, and I can take it with me everywhere. I'm even beginning to appreciate Mac OS, although I'll always have a soft spot for Windows.
Just two cents from some random dude on the internet!
Can we get a part 2? We’ve seen how it does for music and video professionals, but what about programmers, or graphic artists?
Or hell, what about other fields in IT?