Ray wrote the names on the pages, but they didn't die right then. Their time of death was already written on the page at the exact time that Light planned to kill Ray. Every Chess move was carefully thought out.
Also I think people misunderstand how timing a dead body works. They can't look at a body and tell it died 30 minutes before another anyway. So unless they saw the death of all the agents on suvallience it wouldn't matter.
@@gabrielesolletico6542 Yes, but like I said unless he saw literally all the other FBI also die that does nothing to establish a timeline. You can't establish a killing order if you only have one person on camera.
The whole point of the scheme was for Raye to write the first name, the name of his superior officer. In the space where that was written, it was specified in the Death Note that before dying, the supervisor would send out a file with the identities of all the agents on the case. Until that point, neither Raye nor Light had the list of names. Also, the rest didn't die at the same time that Raye wrote the names. Light had already pre-specified the times they would die, as well. That was the point of the rule he discovered at the start.
The writing in the Death Note of the details of death specifies the time of death for everyone. You can actually see it written on the page if you pause on the frames where Light is showing what is written for each agent's name. The first numbers written on the last line are the date, then if you look close you can see "PM" and then more numbers following that, which is the time. He specifically made each time of death different but still close together, and the times are essentially random. Raye Penber's time of death also followed this pattern, so there is no weakness to be found in his strategy with respect to time of death. However, one thing the anime doesn't mention but that the manga does mention is that L requests IT experts at the FBI to determine the time at which each agent received the emails containing the file with every agent's name and photo in it to see if there is any pattern there.
12:03 It's so smart that he says "her" and is vague here, it's almost like 'cold reading'. Chances are high he has a wife, but it could also be a mother, grandmother, daughter, etc. Even a coworker he likes. There was almost no chance of him not knowing a single female.
Ok... as an statistical myself, i just cant put into words the joy of seeing someone teaching statistical error types on an anime content youtube video. I love you.
I’m 99% sure Light didn’t research Raye Penber and was bluffing. (Light probably couldn’t find much information about an FBI agent just from his name, sand maybe wouldn’t risk researching him online and possibly leaving suspicious digital traces.) It’s a translation thing. When Light said “girlfriend” he used the same word that Raye Penber used to refer to her (when he said “you know about her?”), “kanojo”.
Not a translation error, Light talked about his loved once, till Ray gave it away with: "How do you know about her." after that Light focused on an asumed Girlfriend. It's an conversation trick, where you talk as if you know everything, while phishing for some informations that could be used for ones own gain. You just need to be vague, but confident and good at reading people. That and planning are Lights biggest skills.
IIRC, the notion of heaven & hell within the series becomes moot point when Light surmised that neither of the two exists & everyone just goes to the same place after death anyway (nothingness) & Ryuk confirms this, saying that he was actually just messing with him (about the whole neither going to heaven nor hell after using the DN thing).
I think the neither heaven or hell mentioned might be the place on a different anime called death parade, there was even a reference of light in that anime as well
@@Sephy723there was an episode of the Simpsons that reference death note and an anime death parade that also gave out some theories about what happened to light afterwards.
@@LateraL1ty In case you're replying to me (if you're not, just ignore), I read the Death Note manga around 10yrs ago & it was mentioned there, I just don't remember which chapter. It was described as Mu, meaning nothingness. Another commenter also replied the same thing to a similar comment as above somewhere in the comments.
@@Sephy723 Also the anime said it in the last episode. The last two rules in the Death Note (that we learn trough the viewing of the anime) are literally: "Soon or later, every humans shall die, with no exception" and "After one's death, all humans got o Mu" and there is a translation note who says: "Mu" is the nothingness".
I am actually glad that you underestimated him, because it only makes sense, he made several mistakes before, one from ignorance and not being prepared for someone intelligent and extremely dedicated - leading to him being identified as a student. Another one from ego, instantly killing fake L without hesitation after he insulted him, leading to narrowing down his location from entire world to a country and region. And yet another one, from ego, degrading people who stand in his way as simple names to be written down, leading to unforeseen consequences. However, this was his first extremely clever move that shows us how intelligent and ruthless Light can be. And that he not only learns from his mistakes, he makes them into advantages. It was his mistakes that brought surveillance from FBI on him. He has already made it obvious that he has access to police information. So he leverages this disadvantage to get rid of the entire FBI force investigating Kira, all at once. This might seem like a mistake, since he again confirms that Kira is connected to the police. But it was already obvious, and he is well aware. Killing the entire FBI force investigating Kira achieves nothing on its own. It doesn't make him more or less suspicious. But it lures out L, and makes him take harsher measures. It makes Light's actual target more vulnerable, and he is sending him messages to make him even more curious. L played him before like a fiddle, but he was unprepared. Now, he is ready to throw hands. And as he says the real battle begins now, he is now playing the long game. We can no longer underestimate him. Especially seeing as he has no moral compass when it comes to people standing in his way. The ends justify the means.
The police suspecting Kira of being a student wasn't a mistake. Light wanted L to know Kira had access to confidential information so that L would have no choice but to investigate them, which would in turn make the police distrustful of L
@@funkyfranx Not quite, Light has been executing criminals for quite a while before he encountered L and before L started the investigation. He did not expect that someone would be able to connect a string of heart attacks to a single entity. When L did appear, he had already made a record of his action for L to read. It was a mistake of ignorance and not being prepared for a possibility of someone so intelligent and dedicated such as L. But exactly as I said, once he encountered L and found out he indeed investigated and connected all the deaths to Kira and deduced he is a student, he used it to his advantage. But he did not deliberately make it look like he is a student, simply because he did not know that someone like L would rise up against him. He was unaware at that point, thinking he is untracable thanks to the power of the Death Note. So it could not be deliberate. It was indeed a mistake. He would much rather prefer to be anonymous than being localized to such a small area and population in the world. But once L came out, he knew he was his biggest obstacle, and started to work his mistakes into advantages against L.
Well, it's not like all the agents opened their file right away. It means they didn't die at the same exact time, they all died at the same period. So within the same hour. And as people would say "at the same time" just meaning "roughly at the same time"
additionally, it's not like they would all be found at the same time so there would be enough variance for them to have all died "roughly within the same time interval"
I don’t think Raye Penber did die at a different time to the other 11 agents. He filled the names in to the death instructions that Light wrote- I cant read japanese, but I assume the death instructions Light wrote said that all the agents would die of heart attacks at the same time (or at various staggered times) so that Raye’s death wouldnt be an outlier. I love your reaction series though, it’s refreshing to watch someone smart enough to pick up on what Light and L are planning!
Looking at the page that is shown, it looks like from the bottom they die at 4:50 PM, 5:10 PM and 5 PM, so it seems they were spaced out by 10 minutes each.
I last watched your Frieren reactions and they were incredible, one of the best. Top 3 easily. And now your Death Note reactions are also top tier. Both series are such perfect fits for you I think.
13:38 Kanojo basically means "that girl", and in context is also used to define "your girl", and can be used for any depth of relationship, between just having started dating to having been married for most of your life. It's mostly used to define the girl you're dating, though. As for the male version, it would be "Kareshi" or "Kare"
Sorry to hear about your experience in the shopping mall. We had someone jump in front of a semi truck just outside the bar i work at. Fucked me up pretty good having seen it. We ended up paying a company to clean some stains and splash that went off from the road to our sidewalk. None of management had the stomache for it, and we wouldn't make employees do it if we couldnt.
Wow, I am sorry to hear that =( It is really f**d to experience somethign like that. Like you really feel your subconsiousness bleeding into your thoughts, or at least that was the case with me. Really disturbing =( I hope you got through it comparatively well =(
This was where I hopped off the Light train, while I can't agree with killing in general I can at least understand the thought process behind killing criminals. But this episode proves that Light isn't about killing bad guys, he's about ruling the world with an iron fist. Light may be the protagonist but he is definitely no hero.
Not saying I agree with lights actions at all (because I dont and they are heavily flawed), but I was definitely rooting for him in a wat because I enjoyed his character and I felt as I got to the end of the show I had been with him for so long hearing his inner thoughts to the point where I felt like I had to see him win, so I can semi understand people who still support him
Light Make Raye Use Death Note, and if you remember In the First Episode, Whoever Use That Book he/she can't go to either Heaven or hell! That's how Evil Light is!
Raye was the 9th agent to die, in the manga we're shown a list L receives from the FBI detaling the order the agents died in as well as the order they received the files in. This is why Light had Raye sit on the train for so long, he had written in the Death Note that he'd die a few seconds after getting off. There was nothing about Raye's death that would stick out in any way.
In the manga (so it should be about the same) the computer text says: I would like to meet the six of you who have my trust as soon as possible. Do not speak of our meeting, or having met me, or what we will be doing, to anyone who is not in the room now. That includes anybody in the NPA, your families, and your friends. Please leave the NPA building to discuss whether you can swear to the above and whether you can trust me. Only those who agree to work with me in this investigation shall return to the room, and I will send my further conditions for our meeting to this computer.
The Moon Channel has an extensive and comprehensive analysis on Japan's legal system through the game Ace Attorney. Look it up, it's helped me with homework for Communication Theory XD Also has a long essay (my favorite genre!) about Why do we Always kill Gods in JRPGs
17:50 I assume if Ray penber died in the subway there may have been some investigation of the people in the train itself and/or light wouldn't be able to easily secure the envelope
The worse part about this, is Light forever seperated these two agents, those who wrote in the Notebook can't go to Heaven or Hell, but one died without writing in the notebook while the other did 😢, truly a Til Death Do Us Part.
My favorite thing is that lights plan is only possible because he's in Japan.. Writing such specific times would only work in a country where subways actual come at the right time.. Not some place like Germany
There is this anime called death parade and the neither heaven or hell mentioned in this anime might be that place. Also oddly enough the Simpsons made a Halloween special referencing death note but this is a spoiler.
I feel that minimizing/maximizing false positive/negative is not exactly as uncertainty principle, as, in theory, with guilty/not guilty we have "easy way" to make it 100% or 0%, either close all prisons or make rule that accused equals guilty. With uncertainty principle as far as I know, and I did not finished my studies ( on second year I decided that it is not for me :D yet the love for science is still strong in me :) ) so I might not understand it well enough, but there is no way to make it 0/1, there is always in between. Given that solutions I presented are not really realistic. But logically possible :)
Raye's superior sent the files to all of his subordinates - not just Raye. Raye was also already controlled by the Death Note at this point I think. It was by design that they all die after receiving the files and at the same time.
I don't think Raye thought anything of light calling his fiance his "girlfriend" because that might not be public knowledge, this took place at a time right before social media blew up so it's not like they would make their relationship status public. It's probably easy to know they are in a relationship because they live together but aren't legally married yet.
In japan, the legal system has a 99.98% conviction rate. They prioritise convicting SOMEONE after every crime to maintain public order over convicting the correct person, thus using ridiculously low standards of conviction. For them, it's not error A or B they're minimising, they just want a conviction no matter what, ironically increasing both errors through sloppy investigation and discouraging stuff from being reported as crime in the first place. The Ace attorney series depicts this very well with its standard of "Guilty until the defense lawyer finds someone who's even more convincingly guilty." - there's truth to that.
I don't think this is true. They prioritize cases that will result in guilt so thry ignore cases that don't have evidence that will clearly result in a guilty verdict.
@@russellward4624 Indeed - when there is no obvious suspect to follow, they prefere to have things filed as "not a crime" - officially, you lost that money, it was not stolen. Officially, that person committed suicide by thrusting a knife in their own back - So anyone who commits a crime in such a case will get away with it, whereas in cases that *are* reported as crimes and can not be rationalised away, they'll do everything to get a confession out of the first suspect they can get and take that confession (usually not even recorded) as irrefutable evidence. They put the collective over the individual, so they want to wrap it up nicely with a "case closed" fast, weather that be by reporting it as the victims own fault or convicting an innocent.
@@PizzaMineKing they also often settle things out of court by offering plea deals basically like community service and fines as it makes people give up to a lesser charge rather than going to court where they know they are basically guaranteed to lose and get a harsher charge even if they are innocent.
I thought it was just because it's more like the federal court system in the US. They also have a very high conviction rate because chances are if the feds are charging you, they've got plenty of evidence.
11:38 One thing that wasn't really touched on is the fact that the amount of innocent people is a lot greater than the amount of guilty people. I actually have experience with something similar from my internship, where I had to make a prediction model for a certain type of healthcare plan for elderly people with dementia. The main categories here were 'poses no danger' and 'poses a danger either to themselves or others', and it is possible to strike a balance between the false positives and false negatives primarily by giving the different groups weightings (like convicting an innocent person as 'guilty' would weigh 20x higher than saying that a guilty person is innocent).
Killing all the agents at the same time is risky because you can deduce that the last action of one of the agents caused the deaths. If instead all the deaths are 'random', you can't pin point a specific event that caused it, because the time of death is not a reliable source of info.
Wouldn’t the police have a list of names of everyone on the bus? - maybe, but Raye Penber definitely left before being questioned. Light could’ve as well. 🤷
The Raye stuff is done much better in the manga. Instead of showing us chronologically what happened, we're instead given L's reaction to the death of the FBI agents and the details the FBI have on the surrounding circumstances, including the file that got sent to every agent, setting up a very nice mystery of just what Light did to accomplish this, before we're shown the actual plan in a flashback. Way more suspenseful and interesting.
@@gabrielesolletico6542 The way that rule is written makes it sound like it only applies to people who haven’t had their names written. I feel like it would work if you wrote two people’s names down? “John A. kills John. B and then himself” Also it’s directly shown that Light CAN manipulate others to kill people: the bus jacker dies because he’s struck by another person’s car.
@@arthursboypusshe3613 Ok, I'll take your last statement seriously, since I also though about it. BUT the person who "casually" killed the bus jacker, or the rapist in the first episode too, DIDN'T DIE. About your example, it wouldn't work, because the Notebook would work DIRECTLY on the first subject. So, John A. will simply die because of an heart attack, and John B. will survive. It's pretty clear, in the anime.
@@arthursboypusshe3613 If you don't believe me, just remember what happened when Light go to the University (don't spoil it to StoriesWithStyles by the way!).
@@gabrielesolletico6542 My point is more so about how Light (despite being really intelligent) really didn’t think that hard about the Death Note I don’t think anybody in the international community would even notice if criminals started dying to random accidents He could have written “John B. (a bank robber) tries to rob a bank, but ends up in a police chase and crashes into a tree” Or even simpler ones like “John B. (A drug dealer) overdoses on his own supply” It’s just so funny that he keeps spamming heart attacks 😭
Yes, the "girlfriend" thing is bad translation. Light hadn't done any research, he's just going off what Raye told him earlier, the problem is that the word "kanojo" was translated as "her" when Raye said it and then as "girlfriend" when Light repeats it later. While it can mean both depending on context, the Japanese lines sound natural enough, while the subtitle translation is clumsy and makes it seem like Light either somehow has information he doesn't have or that he made an incredibly unnecessary lucky guess. What's actually going on here is just Light pretending to know more than he does because Raye accidentally revealed something he didn't know.
10:50 💯🤝 16:44 стадия 1: "я хочу, чтобы преступники умерли" стадия 2: "я хочу, чтобы преступники знали, что умрут от рук Киры" стадия 3: "я хочу, чтобы те, кто мне мешают, знали, что умрут от рук Киры" стадия 4: "я хочу, чтобы они знали, что Кира - это я. И я хочу насладиться ужасом в их глазах" Ну это быстрое падение.
Bro light did kill them at ruffly the same time I mean how manny minute or days do you think it will take them to notice that all the agents died I mean unless you think that all the agents are being video taped at the same time and their body’s found at the same time to find out ray died what a couple seconds earlier
A more effective way to deal with Penber and the other FBI agents would to arrange for them to be led around on such wild goose chase that they'd eventually get feed up with all the nonsense and want to go home.
Ray wrote the names on the pages, but they didn't die right then. Their time of death was already written on the page at the exact time that Light planned to kill Ray. Every Chess move was carefully thought out.
Yes your ritht here l fell şad for Ray and his wife too keep going king your the best❤
Also I think people misunderstand how timing a dead body works. They can't look at a body and tell it died 30 minutes before another anyway. So unless they saw the death of all the agents on suvallience it wouldn't matter.
@@Omega6489 They saw it on surveillance camera. Ray died in the Tokyo Underground Metro, he's recorded when he dies.
@@gabrielesolletico6542 Yes, but like I said unless he saw literally all the other FBI also die that does nothing to establish a timeline. You can't establish a killing order if you only have one person on camera.
The whole point of the scheme was for Raye to write the first name, the name of his superior officer. In the space where that was written, it was specified in the Death Note that before dying, the supervisor would send out a file with the identities of all the agents on the case. Until that point, neither Raye nor Light had the list of names.
Also, the rest didn't die at the same time that Raye wrote the names. Light had already pre-specified the times they would die, as well. That was the point of the rule he discovered at the start.
25:07 translation:
From now on I want this to be a secret between the 8 of us.
I would like to meet the 6 of you as soon as possible.
The writing in the Death Note of the details of death specifies the time of death for everyone. You can actually see it written on the page if you pause on the frames where Light is showing what is written for each agent's name. The first numbers written on the last line are the date, then if you look close you can see "PM" and then more numbers following that, which is the time. He specifically made each time of death different but still close together, and the times are essentially random. Raye Penber's time of death also followed this pattern, so there is no weakness to be found in his strategy with respect to time of death. However, one thing the anime doesn't mention but that the manga does mention is that L requests IT experts at the FBI to determine the time at which each agent received the emails containing the file with every agent's name and photo in it to see if there is any pattern there.
Is amzing episode here l agree withyou here light he smar villain have nice day❤
12:03 It's so smart that he says "her" and is vague here, it's almost like 'cold reading'. Chances are high he has a wife, but it could also be a mother, grandmother, daughter, etc. Even a coworker he likes. There was almost no chance of him not knowing a single female.
Yes your ritht l o fell şad for him and his wife here have nice day my friend❤
You underestimate my power
Ok... as an statistical myself, i just cant put into words the joy of seeing someone teaching statistical error types on an anime content youtube video. I love you.
It's one of the most unique and informative reaction channels I've ever seen.
Raye died at the same time as the rest. Light probably wrote an exact time for everyone to die and that's the time he killed Raye.
Yes your ritht here l hope Raye rest in peçe ❤
@@اميرمادرا He used the Death Note too, so he can't go in Heaven, nor in Hell. Sad, but true.
a lot of people might not have noticed, but it was an intricate detail. the guy at 21:50 animation mask is off, and is a half person body floating.
Woaaaah
I’m 99% sure Light didn’t research Raye Penber and was bluffing. (Light probably couldn’t find much information about an FBI agent just from his name, sand maybe wouldn’t risk researching him online and possibly leaving suspicious digital traces.) It’s a translation thing. When Light said “girlfriend” he used the same word that Raye Penber used to refer to her (when he said “you know about her?”), “kanojo”.
To add to your point: The translation probably choose the word "girlfriend" because the word kanojo can mean both "girlfriend" and "her"
Not a translation error, Light talked about his loved once, till Ray gave it away with: "How do you know about her." after that Light focused on an asumed Girlfriend.
It's an conversation trick, where you talk as if you know everything, while phishing for some informations that could be used for ones own gain. You just need to be vague, but confident and good at reading people.
That and planning are Lights biggest skills.
Your count is so gonna stay at 2 permanently.
What's the count for?
@@f5673-t1h Kills he agrees with.
@@f5673-t1h how many people he agrees with killing with the death note
I would be surprised if it did
maybe 3
Remember anyone who uses the death note can neither go to heaven or hell. Ray unknowingly f'ed himself
IIRC, the notion of heaven & hell within the series becomes moot point when Light surmised that neither of the two exists & everyone just goes to the same place after death anyway (nothingness) & Ryuk confirms this, saying that he was actually just messing with him (about the whole neither going to heaven nor hell after using the DN thing).
I think the neither heaven or hell mentioned might be the place on a different anime called death parade, there was even a reference of light in that anime as well
@@Sephy723there was an episode of the Simpsons that reference death note and an anime death parade that also gave out some theories about what happened to light afterwards.
@@LateraL1ty In case you're replying to me (if you're not, just ignore), I read the Death Note manga around 10yrs ago & it was mentioned there, I just don't remember which chapter. It was described as Mu, meaning nothingness. Another commenter also replied the same thing to a similar comment as above somewhere in the comments.
@@Sephy723 Also the anime said it in the last episode. The last two rules in the Death Note (that we learn trough the viewing of the anime) are literally: "Soon or later, every humans shall die, with no exception" and "After one's death, all humans got o Mu" and there is a translation note who says: "Mu" is the nothingness".
I am actually glad that you underestimated him, because it only makes sense, he made several mistakes before, one from ignorance and not being prepared for someone intelligent and extremely dedicated - leading to him being identified as a student. Another one from ego, instantly killing fake L without hesitation after he insulted him, leading to narrowing down his location from entire world to a country and region. And yet another one, from ego, degrading people who stand in his way as simple names to be written down, leading to unforeseen consequences.
However, this was his first extremely clever move that shows us how intelligent and ruthless Light can be. And that he not only learns from his mistakes, he makes them into advantages. It was his mistakes that brought surveillance from FBI on him. He has already made it obvious that he has access to police information. So he leverages this disadvantage to get rid of the entire FBI force investigating Kira, all at once. This might seem like a mistake, since he again confirms that Kira is connected to the police. But it was already obvious, and he is well aware. Killing the entire FBI force investigating Kira achieves nothing on its own. It doesn't make him more or less suspicious. But it lures out L, and makes him take harsher measures. It makes Light's actual target more vulnerable, and he is sending him messages to make him even more curious. L played him before like a fiddle, but he was unprepared. Now, he is ready to throw hands. And as he says the real battle begins now, he is now playing the long game. We can no longer underestimate him. Especially seeing as he has no moral compass when it comes to people standing in his way. The ends justify the means.
The police suspecting Kira of being a student wasn't a mistake. Light wanted L to know Kira had access to confidential information so that L would have no choice but to investigate them, which would in turn make the police distrustful of L
@@funkyfranx Not quite, Light has been executing criminals for quite a while before he encountered L and before L started the investigation. He did not expect that someone would be able to connect a string of heart attacks to a single entity. When L did appear, he had already made a record of his action for L to read. It was a mistake of ignorance and not being prepared for a possibility of someone so intelligent and dedicated such as L.
But exactly as I said, once he encountered L and found out he indeed investigated and connected all the deaths to Kira and deduced he is a student, he used it to his advantage.
But he did not deliberately make it look like he is a student, simply because he did not know that someone like L would rise up against him. He was unaware at that point, thinking he is untracable thanks to the power of the Death Note. So it could not be deliberate. It was indeed a mistake. He would much rather prefer to be anonymous than being localized to such a small area and population in the world. But once L came out, he knew he was his biggest obstacle, and started to work his mistakes into advantages against L.
Well, it's not like all the agents opened their file right away. It means they didn't die at the same exact time, they all died at the same period. So within the same hour. And as people would say "at the same time" just meaning "roughly at the same time"
additionally, it's not like they would all be found at the same time so there would be enough variance for them to have all died "roughly within the same time interval"
I don’t think Raye Penber did die at a different time to the other 11 agents. He filled the names in to the death instructions that Light wrote- I cant read japanese, but I assume the death instructions Light wrote said that all the agents would die of heart attacks at the same time (or at various staggered times) so that Raye’s death wouldnt be an outlier.
I love your reaction series though, it’s refreshing to watch someone smart enough to pick up on what Light and L are planning!
Looking at the page that is shown, it looks like from the bottom they die at 4:50 PM, 5:10 PM and 5 PM, so it seems they were spaced out by 10 minutes each.
I last watched your Frieren reactions and they were incredible, one of the best. Top 3 easily. And now your Death Note reactions are also top tier. Both series are such perfect fits for you I think.
Thanks:) i am glad there is so much good stuff out there :)
13:38 Kanojo basically means "that girl", and in context is also used to define "your girl", and can be used for any depth of relationship, between just having started dating to having been married for most of your life. It's mostly used to define the girl you're dating, though.
As for the male version, it would be "Kareshi" or "Kare"
Sorry to hear about your experience in the shopping mall. We had someone jump in front of a semi truck just outside the bar i work at. Fucked me up pretty good having seen it. We ended up paying a company to clean some stains and splash that went off from the road to our sidewalk. None of management had the stomache for it, and we wouldn't make employees do it if we couldnt.
Wow, I am sorry to hear that =( It is really f**d to experience somethign like that. Like you really feel your subconsiousness bleeding into your thoughts, or at least that was the case with me. Really disturbing =( I hope you got through it comparatively well =(
William Blackstone, a legal philosopher, wrote "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."
They died in clusters 15 minutes apart. Raye's death occurred in time with the third cluster.
Keep em coming!
This was where I hopped off the Light train, while I can't agree with killing in general I can at least understand the thought process behind killing criminals. But this episode proves that Light isn't about killing bad guys, he's about ruling the world with an iron fist. Light may be the protagonist but he is definitely no hero.
Not saying I agree with lights actions at all (because I dont and they are heavily flawed), but I was definitely rooting for him in a wat because I enjoyed his character and I felt as I got to the end of the show I had been with him for so long hearing his inner thoughts to the point where I felt like I had to see him win, so I can semi understand people who still support him
I fell şad for poor People l hope they rest in peçe but l agree with you here have nice day❤
Light is the antagonist here. I dropp off Light's train in the next episode, when he does what you know he will do...
Light Make Raye Use Death Note, and if you remember In the First Episode, Whoever Use That Book he/she can't go to either Heaven or hell! That's how Evil Light is!
Raye was the 9th agent to die, in the manga we're shown a list L receives from the FBI detaling the order the agents died in as well as the order they received the files in. This is why Light had Raye sit on the train for so long, he had written in the Death Note that he'd die a few seconds after getting off. There was nothing about Raye's death that would stick out in any way.
In the manga (so it should be about the same) the computer text says:
I would like to meet the six of you who have my trust as soon as possible.
Do not speak of our meeting, or having met me, or what we will be doing, to anyone who is not in the room now. That includes anybody in the NPA, your families, and your friends.
Please leave the NPA building to discuss whether you can swear to the above and whether you can trust me. Only those who agree to work with me in this investigation shall return to the room, and I will send my further conditions for our meeting to this computer.
light is so goated
This was a good reaction, mate! :) Thank you!
You should try the dub version, They did a good job with it.
Ohhh, I can't wait to see how would you react to this!! :)
The Moon Channel has an extensive and comprehensive analysis on Japan's legal system through the game Ace Attorney. Look it up, it's helped me with homework for Communication Theory XD
Also has a long essay (my favorite genre!) about Why do we Always kill Gods in JRPGs
17:50 I assume if Ray penber died in the subway there may have been some investigation of the people in the train itself and/or light wouldn't be able to easily secure the envelope
The worse part about this, is Light forever seperated these two agents, those who wrote in the Notebook can't go to Heaven or Hell, but one died without writing in the notebook while the other did 😢, truly a Til Death Do Us Part.
you need better subtitles that actually translate when text is on the screen
My favorite thing is that lights plan is only possible because he's in Japan.. Writing such specific times would only work in a country where subways actual come at the right time.. Not some place like Germany
There is this anime called death parade and the neither heaven or hell mentioned in this anime might be that place.
Also oddly enough the Simpsons made a Halloween special referencing death note but this is a spoiler.
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I feel that minimizing/maximizing false positive/negative is not exactly as uncertainty principle, as, in theory, with guilty/not guilty we have "easy way" to make it 100% or 0%, either close all prisons or make rule that accused equals guilty. With uncertainty principle as far as I know, and I did not finished my studies ( on second year I decided that it is not for me :D yet the love for science is still strong in me :) ) so I might not understand it well enough, but there is no way to make it 0/1, there is always in between. Given that solutions I presented are not really realistic. But logically possible :)
Raye's superior sent the files to all of his subordinates - not just Raye. Raye was also already controlled by the Death Note at this point I think. It was by design that they all die after receiving the files and at the same time.
One of the worst things.. Ray penber can't go to heaven (or hell) now that he used to death note. He won't even get to reunite with his loved ones
I don't think Raye thought anything of light calling his fiance his "girlfriend" because that might not be public knowledge, this took place at a time right before social media blew up so it's not like they would make their relationship status public. It's probably easy to know they are in a relationship because they live together but aren't legally married yet.
But I do think the point that light said girlfriend was to show us that he didn't thoroughly research Raye
11:36 Oh, that's very interesting. I was naively thinking/hoping that there is a way to minimize both errors. Mhm. :(
Please watch Higurashi. It's a delight to watch and very underrated.
In japan, the legal system has a 99.98% conviction rate. They prioritise convicting SOMEONE after every crime to maintain public order over convicting the correct person, thus using ridiculously low standards of conviction. For them, it's not error A or B they're minimising, they just want a conviction no matter what, ironically increasing both errors through sloppy investigation and discouraging stuff from being reported as crime in the first place.
The Ace attorney series depicts this very well with its standard of "Guilty until the defense lawyer finds someone who's even more convincingly guilty." - there's truth to that.
I don't think this is true. They prioritize cases that will result in guilt so thry ignore cases that don't have evidence that will clearly result in a guilty verdict.
@@russellward4624 Indeed - when there is no obvious suspect to follow, they prefere to have things filed as "not a crime" - officially, you lost that money, it was not stolen. Officially, that person committed suicide by thrusting a knife in their own back - So anyone who commits a crime in such a case will get away with it, whereas in cases that *are* reported as crimes and can not be rationalised away, they'll do everything to get a confession out of the first suspect they can get and take that confession (usually not even recorded) as irrefutable evidence. They put the collective over the individual, so they want to wrap it up nicely with a "case closed" fast, weather that be by reporting it as the victims own fault or convicting an innocent.
@@PizzaMineKing they also often settle things out of court by offering plea deals basically like community service and fines as it makes people give up to a lesser charge rather than going to court where they know they are basically guaranteed to lose and get a harsher charge even if they are innocent.
Didn't he mention this last reaction already
I thought it was just because it's more like the federal court system in the US. They also have a very high conviction rate because chances are if the feds are charging you, they've got plenty of evidence.
14:55 Oh, I was starting to worrying... you were praising Light a little too much! But yes, he's clever. But also a despicable fuck as you said!
11:38 One thing that wasn't really touched on is the fact that the amount of innocent people is a lot greater than the amount of guilty people.
I actually have experience with something similar from my internship, where I had to make a prediction model for a certain type of healthcare plan for elderly people with dementia.
The main categories here were 'poses no danger' and 'poses a danger either to themselves or others', and it is possible to strike a balance between the false positives and false negatives primarily by giving the different groups weightings (like convicting an innocent person as 'guilty' would weigh 20x higher than saying that a guilty person is innocent).
Killing all the agents at the same time is risky because you can deduce that the last action of one of the agents caused the deaths. If instead all the deaths are 'random', you can't pin point a specific event that caused it, because the time of death is not a reliable source of info.
One really messed up aspect to Ray's death is that Light was told by Ryuk that anybody who uses a death note doesn't go to heaven or hell.
That point was quickly dismissed by Light saying there is no heaven or hell, and ryuk says that he was just messing with him.
@@ancalagoonn Oh is that in the manga? I haven't read it.
@@ancalagoonn In the beginning? I've always think that Ryuk confess that only toward the end of their journey...
4:20 Everybody react like you... but ehy, I guess Japan is still a maschilist place!
Ray died at the same time as the others, he didn't not die differently
13:47 Well technically a fiancee is still a girlfriend until you get married I suppose.
Wouldn’t the police have a list of names of everyone on the bus? - maybe, but Raye Penber definitely left before being questioned. Light could’ve as well. 🤷
4:53 i think he just scared fr
The Raye stuff is done much better in the manga. Instead of showing us chronologically what happened, we're instead given L's reaction to the death of the FBI agents and the details the FBI have on the surrounding circumstances, including the file that got sent to every agent, setting up a very nice mystery of just what Light did to accomplish this, before we're shown the actual plan in a flashback.
Way more suspenseful and interesting.
"You're no longer an agent ... now go make me a sandwich" vibe
If light wasn’t so egotistical he could’ve had the criminals kill each other and then kill themselves
No, you can't manipulate a person to kill some other person, and then die of an heart attack. It's one of the rules of the Death Note.
@@gabrielesolletico6542 The way that rule is written makes it sound like it only applies to people who haven’t had their names written.
I feel like it would work if you wrote two people’s names down?
“John A. kills John. B and then himself”
Also it’s directly shown that Light CAN manipulate others to kill people: the bus jacker dies because he’s struck by another person’s car.
@@arthursboypusshe3613 Ok, I'll take your last statement seriously, since I also though about it. BUT the person who "casually" killed the bus jacker, or the rapist in the first episode too, DIDN'T DIE.
About your example, it wouldn't work, because the Notebook would work DIRECTLY on the first subject. So, John A. will simply die because of an heart attack, and John B. will survive. It's pretty clear, in the anime.
@@arthursboypusshe3613 If you don't believe me, just remember what happened when Light go to the University (don't spoil it to StoriesWithStyles by the way!).
@@gabrielesolletico6542 My point is more so about how Light (despite being really intelligent) really didn’t think that hard about the Death Note
I don’t think anybody in the international community would even notice if criminals started dying to random accidents
He could have written “John B. (a bank robber) tries to rob a bank, but ends up in a police chase and crashes into a tree”
Or even simpler ones like “John B. (A drug dealer) overdoses on his own supply”
It’s just so funny that he keeps spamming heart attacks 😭
Ray Penburn was "burned" by a pen
Yes, the "girlfriend" thing is bad translation. Light hadn't done any research, he's just going off what Raye told him earlier, the problem is that the word "kanojo" was translated as "her" when Raye said it and then as "girlfriend" when Light repeats it later. While it can mean both depending on context, the Japanese lines sound natural enough, while the subtitle translation is clumsy and makes it seem like Light either somehow has information he doesn't have or that he made an incredibly unnecessary lucky guess.
What's actually going on here is just Light pretending to know more than he does because Raye accidentally revealed something he didn't know.
10:50 💯🤝
16:44 стадия 1: "я хочу, чтобы преступники умерли"
стадия 2: "я хочу, чтобы преступники знали, что умрут от рук Киры"
стадия 3: "я хочу, чтобы те, кто мне мешают, знали, что умрут от рук Киры"
стадия 4: "я хочу, чтобы они знали, что Кира - это я. И я хочу насладиться ужасом в их глазах"
Ну это быстрое падение.
Bro light did kill them at ruffly the same time I mean how manny minute or days do you think it will take them to notice that all the agents died I mean unless you think that all the agents are being video taped at the same time and their body’s found at the same time to find out ray died what a couple seconds earlier
I still dont understand why wont you switch to better subs.
Not available in Germany. You basically get no access to deathnote through any services, it is region blocked :(
@@storieswithstyle Damn, this is insane. And very stupid too.
Lb
A more effective way to deal with Penber and the other FBI agents would to arrange for them to be led around on such wild goose chase that they'd eventually get feed up with all the nonsense and want to go home.