COINCIDENCE OR FATE? || PHYSICS EDUCATOR watches DEATH NOTE 1x06 - BLIND REACT-ANALYSIS
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
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The reason she has this weird immediate trust of him is because the clerk confirmed that he's Soichiro's son, has helped in investigations before, and he hinted that he's currently involved.
She's also dealing with grief over her fiance's death, and likely hasn't had time to process or talk about it with anyone, so it's understandable that she over-shared details about it.
He prompts her for a name (with the spelling) by giving his first, making a disarming quip about how strange his own name is.
He builds trust by sharing information, giving info he knows the police have, but she wouldn't "Kira can control his victims before death", such a huge revelation to anyone who doesn't know, and it plays perfectly into his manipulations. She gets excited, speeds up to get in front of him, she feels like she's found an ally, someone intelligent who's working on the case and noticed the same things. He remains open, listens to her, and allows her to over-share. "I hadn't even though about that" he says, giving her validation and hoping to stoke her hopes.
Then he prompts her to talk about her dead fiance. He's re-opening fresh wounds. Prying her with trauma and grief. She over-shares again.
This episode really highlights how charming and disarming Light can be. How he can subtly manipulate people.
Also, the Kira investigators had no one at HQ, so they couldn't listen to her testimony, which made her frustrated. She was dying to share her theory with someone, and now she couldn't share it with the police she didn't know what to do.
I agree with you here my friend have nice day❤
Spot on. Light is GOATED.
@@iminumst7827 Yeah, like her fiancée died maybe 3-4 days ago at most, possibly less? Certainly it has been very quick. She's throwing herself into her work to help process her grief and she is sitting on a potential bombshell of information on Kira's ability. So once she starts sharing her thoughts to someone she thinks should be trustworthy, and he validates her, she really can't help herself but continue to divulge info.
great analysis!!! i hope he reads this comment because this whole episode is really a great example of how smart Light really is to get his way
One thing you come to learn about L is that when he talks about sacrificing people is because he doesn't do it recklessly, investigating a supernatural killer is a risk they all assumed, and the loss of the agents is an unfortunate outcome to what otherwise is fighting against an unknown opponent. You'll have losses until you know exactly what you're dealing with, then you can start to make decisions that doesn't risk lives unnecessarily, but at this point they're going in blind.
It's like an extension of the chess metaphor, they're pieces on the board and if you have to sacrifice them to win then so be it, they're playing the game too.
21:56 He's the son of the chief of police, the one working together with L, he offered to bring her to them, and the receptionist vouched for him, saying he helps with investigations. Why wouldn't she trust him at least a bit, especially after they start exchanging similar ideas?
Thank you for saying that i appreciate you explaining. It but it is very convenient that he met her there its always urked me. But she does have a lot of hesitancy regarding that
Because she's supposed to be a brilliant investigator, and knows better than to succumb to a gain-of-trust ploy; it's an immediate red flag for any investigator, if they were to find themselves suddenly divulging information regarding an ongoing investigation to a stranger. Being vouched for by another stranger is not sufficient - which they did go through the effort to show she does know: not to trust them by refusing to leave her tips/info with them.
I like DN, but it does have some flaws in the writing.
@@aquapuppy9838 it doesn't matter how brillant you are, if you are grieving that is gonna affect your hability to process and analyze the situaiton, especially if you are desperate and in need of validation. If we re talking about flaws, the fact the FBI didn't provide any IDs with fake names bothers me way more. Or the fact that Light just happens to meet her there at same time, if she was 5 minutes off, it would've all been over.
@@TheBatSpeaks It is certainly convenient, but that is kind of just life a lot of the time and there are good reasons. Like, both she and L are moving on the same timeline reacting to the FBI deaths. L calls a meeting that has the investigators out of the office and away from home overnight. Raye's fiancée quickly gathers the info she wanted and looks to share it with the police, who are out of contact range because of the secret meeting. Light meanwhile is going to bring food and clothes to the office early in the morning for his dad because he had to spend the night working with L. He obviously goes to the police because where else would his dad be, and she's there probably on her fastest timetable because she is anxious and grieving and throwing herself into her work. It's likely they are both arriving to the station really early in the morning. And then yeah there is a bit of timing convenience so the story can happen.
@@Vael221yeah, it might not be the coolest, but this episode is also to show that Light is fucking lucky too
I kinda like how coincidence favors light, normally in story telling it makes you hate the main character because it feels like the lucked into what they shoulda worked for, but in this show it feels right to hate light. Like it makes me angry thinking about how hes doing all these things and things just work out for him. Since you said you already watched up to episode 8, it's not a spoiler to say how poetically unfair it is that aizawa didn't see light because it started snowing at the perfect moment. In a weird way it's one of my favorite moments of the show. Both sides are smart, but you can't outsmart fate.
I was for light personnaly
Like i was for vader or sauron haha
@@yoch5383l agree with you l love light as villain he amzing but l fell şad for her here tho have nice day
completely agree, it's also a bit relatable because usually the people you dislike somehow always get lucky lol
I've always kind of liked how Light would have been totally screwed here if it weren't for this lucky moment. It makes his ego about how smart he is even more detestable.
To be fair for why light couldn't just give her his number, a lot of people are angry with police everywhere. It's just as dangerous for him to give her that as it is for her to give him her name. Also, you can infer that Light's career path was as a detective even before he got the note hence the excuse he cooked up and why he's interested in cases. Fun fact bc I know you're ahead enough to mention it: The writer basically admitted he wrote himself into a corner bc she was too smart.
I agree with you here l fell şad for her here have nice day❤
14:18 I wouldn't call it negligence. I'm sure those agents were briefed on the danger before accepting the mission. L wasn't really the cause of their deaths but he takes responsibility when speaking to the taskforce.
Yes, it sure is "convenient", but the chance of their encounter is bigger with her insistence of speaking to someone from the task force and with light having good reasons to regularly check in.
As far as "convenience" in their conversation goes, lights credibility was already presented to her befor he even introduced himself and that already by a credible source. From there he slowly chips away, piece by piece.
Plus, japanese courtesy, the answer to something that would make anyone else question "how and why is any of this situation happening?!".
16:00 Light did all that show with the busjacking because his plan was trying to be a hero so that Raye Pember would trust him and show him his real name. He wouldn't have revealed it in any other way, and Raye wrongly assumed that Kira would never let a bus jacker do something that dangerous in his presence. So with all the show Light made Pember trust him, show him his name, make Pember believe he was absolutely not Kira and then had the bus jacker die from "natural" causes so as to further make it clear that it was an accident and Kira wasn't responsible.
We can assume that, in his arrogance, Pember would have dismissed all his suspicions about Light, so he would have never told Light's name to his girlfriend.
It was not his arrogance, the only one arrogant in that situation was Light. Raye is an FBI agent, working on a classified case, where the suspect can potentially kill by simply knowing your name. He would absolutely, under any circumstances have not revealed his target to anyone who is not connected to the investigation. He would especially under any circumstances tell his fiancée, as it could potentially put her in harms way. He was not arrogant, he was smart (if he died and she was not connected to investigation in any way, she would live).
And even after truly believing that Light was not Kira, he would still not disclose the name to anyone. For all he knew, Light might no be Kira, but Kira might not even be personally connected with the police, he can simply have an accomplice there, and he could put himself, his fiancée and even his target, Light, into danger.
Light was the arrogant one, taking FBI agents as simple names to be written down. He did not take into account that one of them might have another business in Japan and would not be alone. He was the only person who knew about the busjacking, so as far as Light knew, this vulnerability died with him. But it didn't. And people will call it convenient or plot armor that he intercepted her giving out this information, but nope, it was good ol' stupid luck. And luck is realistic.
And that scene is a vital to show us just how versed Light is in dealing with people. He is good looking, so he has natural charisma, but he also knows how to use words for all kinds of needs. He is flexible and cunning. He used the fact the policemen knew him, he twisted the facts into a half-truth, that his father is chief investigator in Kira's case and added that he is helping. Then his charisma, sociopathy and manipulation, giving her small snippets of info to sound credible and gain her trust he seeded earlier. As I always say, his charisma saved him more times than his brain did.
@@zennonapieronn3734 I agree with all your points, but this makes me quesiton: Why did the FBI provided their agents with a FBI ID with fake name just in case? That makes no sense whatsoever considering they already knew Kira needed their names. It seems like a major wrtting oversight to me.
@@zennonapieronn3734 Light is the definition of arrogance, in that we agree.
But Raye Pember is extremely arrogant as well. From him basically forcing his girlfriend to leave the FBI, and dismissing her opinions because "she's not an agent anymore", to him just showing his ID to the main suspect, just because maybe he doesn't believe he's FBI (he could have just said to the kid "don't be a hero, it's a dumb idea especially if I'm an accomplice), going against the one directive the FBI was inflexible about. His arrogance caused the death of his whole team, and left his fiancee mostly in the dark, since she only knows about the bus jacking and that he was following a suspect.
It's stated clearly that he didn't tell her anything more.
@@pimentx3253 Exactly, that is a great point, especially when L points that out just an episode after, when the police pulls out their badges and he finger pistols them down. It's not like it would be a first for FBI. And that makes you wonder - did L do this on purpose? Was he gambling their lives in hopes that Kira would make a mistake? Maybe they were just given orders not to show their ID to anyone, under any circumstances. Still, they should have a fake one handy, just in case.
@@TheDahaka1 Why would that be arrogant on Raye's part? He didn't dismiss her because she was no longer an agent, he didn't put her down just because he was in a position of power. He did it to protect her. He doesn't want her to be connected with Kira's case in any way. So he told her she is no longer an agent and she shouldn't try to mingle with the investigation. It's not arrogant, it's compassionate.
Him giving Light his badge wasn't just because he didn't believe him. At that point, Raye was 110% sure Light was not Kira in his mind. Kira, for him, was someone who kills by looks, Kira would not allow a crazed lunatic killer to enter the same premises, he would've killed him on the spot. He would've killed Raye as well if Light was Kira right then and there. But the criminal went crazy, emptied his mag in the bus, which would be insanely dangerous for Kira if Light was indeed him, and then died in an accident, a huge deviation from Kira's usual practice. Raye didn't die that day as well. At that point, they had no idea how Kira kills, and everything pointed out to Light not being Kira. For all he knew, every criminal died by a heart attack. Light could not have been Kira in his mind. So he let his guard down, telling his fiancée about the busjacking and planning to end his investigation there.
Raye did nothing wrong, he conducted his investigation based on the info he got and based on that, Light got a green light a thousand times over. He could not have been Kira. Light was one step ahead of him at that point, he had no chance. And Light knew that, that's why he could carry out his plan of wiping the entire FBI force currently employed. Yes, it was an oversight to show Light his ID, but he was sure he was not Kira at that point, and he did what he deemed necessary at that point to save lives. Words would probably not stop a young man trying to impress his date by grappling for a criminal's gun. He could've died, and cause the death of more people. Giving him an ID not only proved that he is not an accomplice, but showed him that he is in position of power and experience in a situation like this, quelling any rebelous outbursts innocent Light might've had. It was a good move, all things considered. He should've had a fake name ID though. Basically, it was not him who screwed up, it was his higher-ups and L. L should especially be privy to the fact that Kira needs a name.
Raye was not arrogant at any point. He investigated according to the info he got, he adamantly squashed any ideas his fiancée would have to help with investigation to protect her, and carried himself like an FBI agent in the bus, employing the best possible actions to ensure lives were protected in that situation, giving up his cover in order to protect innocent lives. If he had more info, he would not give Light the ID. If he had more info, he would not let his guard down and tell him fiancée about the bus. And if he had a fake ID, he would be protected from possible harm. He acted with compassion, dedication, and selflessly to protect the public, ready to put his life down if it came to struggle with the criminal. His actions were heroical, not at all arrogant. He was the embodiment of public servant.
And you need to remember - by giving him his ID, even if he was not sure he was Kira (which he was at that point), the only life he thought he was putting in danger was his own. He had no idea what Kira is able to do, using him to kill the FBI force. And if he died, it would just finish his investigation, successfuly. He was ready to die to save lives. He was aware he could die any second going into this investigation. And he went into it nonetheless. And he went far beyond his line of duty. He deserved a medal. And instead, he got a death sentence by the self proclaimed god of justice. He and his fiancée are the perfect characters to deepen Light's character and motivations.
I am under the assumption you prerecorded these, and since you have no translation to the japanese entries, I'm gonna point out a mistake made by light at the end of this episode that will only be mentioned in japanese text at the beginning of the next one. For anyone not caught up, this is your spoiler warning.
The way light killed her was not very smart. He wrote her cause of death as "suicide in such a way her body will never be found" - However, a missing body in a case like this can provide as much if not more information as a found body. Especially after the FBI agents, this may create a connection due to the fact she was with penber and her body is never found. It has been established light can make them write stuff, so he could have made her write a believable suicide note implying she killed herself over the loss of raye penber in her appartment - he probably doesn't even need to specify the exact wording, but something like this would be much harder to connect to the kira case.
Yeah, the writing in this arc was really weird. Especially as in e8 they immeditaely know her death. I am unsure why that all happened, feels a bit iffy to me :D (I am currently finished with 8, watching 9 soon) =D
@@storieswithstyle I mean, they did jump to conclusions, but if the fiance of an FBI agent just vanishes after said agent investigated a guy like this and can't be found for weeks, you can conclude they're dead - which is why making her not be found was a bad move.
@@storieswithstyle I believe the writer admitted that he kind of wrote himself into a corner with this character
@@storieswithstyle I took it as just proceeding as if his unconfirmed "guess" was a confirmed truth. As far as how he even made the "guess", it would be a character reading, which he's good at, based on what he already knows of her.
Note that he did write that in a hurry after she gave him her license. It's gonna be weird to just dictate a detailed suicide note right then and there
I think that him coincidentally meeting her at the police station is slightly remedied by the fact that the time frame of all of this happening is so short.
Absolutely, but the writer could've still came up with a better justification as to why they were there at the same time, instead of of just the same time frame. But I get it, weekly chapters and all.
19:00 I wouldnt hand out my parents phone number to people and my parent's job isn't even sensative and dangerous compared to Soichiro Yagami's ...if they have a message they can tell me, or if there is really no other way, use my phone to talk to them. It is very normal.
То, что Кира - сын шефа полиции - очень, очень хороший сюжетный ход. Это не только дает ему возможность получать сведения о преступниках и расследовании. Это еще и дополнительный фактор, объясняющий, почему он не верит в систему правосудия. Представьте, сколько раз за семейным ужином он слышал что-нибудь вроде "мы его поймали, но эти чертовы юристы дали ему выйти из тюрьмы" или "мы знаем, что он виновен, но не можем собрать достаточно улик для суда". Люди склонны говорить больше о том, что их тревожит, выводит из себя, расстраивает, чем о том, что все прошло нормально. И картина для наблюдателя получается искаженной.
Наверняка он в детстве мечтал как папа ловить бандитов и делать мир чище именно в рамках системы, но вот он подросток и он видит, что взрослые не справляются. Не справляются год за годом. Добавить к этому кучу похвал, как лучшему ученику. И вот готов питательный бульон для комплекса Избранного, которому надо очистить этот прогнивший мир.
Мне очень нравится игра с цветом. Когда Кира выходит на сцену, мир становится серым, и только его соперник в битве выделен контрастным цветом.
The problem with the FBI agent was that Light already controlled his actions to write his colleague names. Even if L warned him, there was no way to avoid him.
Light had to follow him in the train to make the conditions of Raye writing the names of his colleagues possible, otherwise he would have dies at the specified time trying to find something that he didn't know it exists.
17:55 Yes, probanly. But the author also said, responding to a fan letter, who asked "If Light did not pick up the Death Note, what would have happend to him? What kind of life he would have?" and the author said that, if Light had not become Kira, he has continued studying, finishes school and University, and then he would have enter into the NPA and would have a so brilliant detective that he would have join L and his father in the Kira's Special Provision Case, and would have dedicate himself to capture Kira.
As one of the miniscule percentage of people who actually roots for Light this episode and the next were nail biting thrillers, a rollercoaster of emotions.
6:46 Ah yes, very random indeed 😎
Very clearly, L is an archetype of the neurodivergent, antisocial genius. I love him.
IM HERE ON TIME??? Well close enough
So, for pretty much anyone who wants to know what Death Note is about and why people love this series so much. *This* episode and the one after it are the episodes that I always point them to. It pretty much encapsulates everything about the show that makes it such a great watch.
I always assumed that L had a form of autism, which explains his obsessive-compulsive disorder gestures 🧐
My money is on Savant syndrome. An out of ordinary intellect focused into one specific skill, paired with an extreme social connectivity disorder. They speak and hear normally, but are seldom able to build any kind of true connections to the people around them
I agree with you here my friend❤
@@اميرمادراWhy do you keep commenting this?😂
There’s stuff that happens later on that points to it too
@@SerpentineWisdom you know a thing called... "bot"
Light revealing himself to Penbar at the last moment is precisely because he is childish and hates to lose - which the inverse is he loves to win; and could it be said that he truly won if the person he 'won' against doesn't know he lost? It's a prideful hubris behind why he does it this way.
"I'm kinda really rooting against Light, but I love watching him do stuff" kinda sums up the series
It's not really that much of a coincidence. Light goes to the police station occasionally, likely on a semi-regular basis to bring stuff for his father. And Shoko Maki was there to see the officer who was heading up the Kira investigation, who happened to be Chief Yagami. So yeah, it was happenstance, but not that improbable. If anything, it's Sayu's fault.
just in case.
The reason Ray didn't write any rule or thought he had just before passing out is Kira wrote so deeply and detailed how it was going to happen that since the moment they met it's already activated and does exactly what kira wants him to. That includes from avoiding confrontation to even thinking about the faces while writing even kira doesn't ask him to. That's a rule he doesn't know but follows under the details of his written name. I'm not entirely sure what Kira wrote under him but must be extremely detailed as he was going to take so much risk.
Also another tip.
Ray used the notebook (even forced to by the note itself) so 1 he goes to purgatory and 2 he dies unhappy (watching Light's face, his final failure)
My personal theory about Light is that his first two victims were done out of curiosity, to test the book to see if it works. I don't think Light even expected it to work. He picked people who were committing crimes in progress because he probably thought they would be justifiable killings. Once he realized he killed two men, it really affected him badly and he quickly tried to rationalize it by saying they were bad men who the world wouldn't miss and would be better off without them. He then decided to go all in on a philosophy that really only started out as a coping mechanism. I think for Light, if he can truly bring about a better world through these actions, then he can justify them in his head.
Keep it up! Death Note was the perfect anime for me as an edgy teenager. It's a shame these kinds of shows are so rare. Don't worry, there is still A LOT to come.
L doesn't mean he deliberately sacrificed the FBI agents' lives, he means that they died because they were acting on his orders, and he feels responsibility and guilt because of that, considering it a personal failure on his part.
It's not exactly an uncommon reaction to learning that people died because you gave an order and things didn't work out according to your plan.
I think L says he "sacrificed" the FBI agents not because he neglected them, but because he asked for the FBI's help, and then they died. Its obvious that if you investigate a supernatural mass murderer, you're risking your life, that's what police and detectives do. I think L just feels responsible for that, but didn't really neglect them.
There's actually a valid reason why L sits and holds things the way he does.
He worked with Raye Penber's Fiancee years ago on "The BB Murder Cases" in Los Angeles.
After they resolved and closed the case, L decided to actually meet her. Unfortunately, he did it awkwardly.
He came up from behind her and touched her shoulder and because she thought it was some attacker, she threw him down some stairs and he broke his back. He couldn't walk for a while and had no feeling in his legs and fingers.
After some physical therapy, he got back to his sleuthing (he never blamed her for what happened).
Now straightening his back + sitting the normal way hurts, so he has to sit that way to be comfortable.
Sometimes you'll see him rubbing his feet together, he does that out of fear he'll lose feeling again.
21:48 i don't know if you miss it, but raye panber and the rest of the FBI team died at the same time. Light did it to make it harder to pin point who is the one tailing kira
Might be, but irrelevant, as it was found out anyway immediately :D
@@storieswithstyle yeah sadly, I remember they give her more action in the live action movie though
So if Ray Pember was that concerned about having his name compromised that he told his wife, surely would have also noted it down as part of his investigation, if not told L directly.
14:20 Well, no. C'mon on. If a criminal kills an investigator who's investigating on his, who would you blame for his death? His killer, or the Police Commissioner who assigned him /her to the case? The Police Chief was only doing his job, just like the Detective was only doing his job too. You can't blame the Police Chief on that death, mate.
Yeah, his meeting with her is SO frustrating because she was maybe an hour too early to be a sounding board for the task force and she got charmed by Light. Just putting his grubby hands on every string he can pull.
2:04 maybe Ray thought just writing names of FBI agents will be not critical enough because FBI knows Kira need name and face both to kill people. Kira just ordered 'write names in note', so Kira still don't know face of agents at that moment. but it was killing process what actually happened...
23:50 I waited to see the end of the video before I wrote this, but: yes, I agree with you that it's very forced and convenient that Maki Shoko and Light Yagami meet in the NPA lobby, and also that she talks so much, BUUUT: 1) People in a deep emotive shock feels the urge to talk with other people, to feel relieve... haven't a stranger started to talk with you about his/her problems, on the bus, ever? That happened to me... and 2) Light is just an adolescent 3) He's the son of the Police Superintender that investigates on the case (and that's convenient too...) and 4) He's a prodige child, a Wunderkinder, (if that's the correct German word), that has already helped his father in the investigation, as the guy at the desk said. So you can UNDERSTAND why she talks so much with Light, even if I agree that this is a little bit convenient. But... we will see what will happen, next week, right?
1:45
If Raye Pember refused to think of the faces that went with the names,
Light would have known that as soon as the personnel files didn't get emailed by Raye's boss.
Also, no human except Light knows that there is Death *Note.*
Raye probably thought writing down the names was curious
but how was he supposed to know he was writing on magic paper from a book he didn't know existe?
Trusting the anime is the best thing you can do right now. It can be too easy to lose faith in how the plot is moving forward and the quality of its writing, but just like how it has surprised you in the past, it will surprise you in the future too- in a positive way! :)
3:56 Ryūzaki is written as 竜崎, with 竜 meaning dragon and 崎 meaning peninsula.
The reason she is not suspicious that Light knows all these things about the case is that the police clerk just mentioned right in front of her that Light helps with investigations. So it's seemingly known that he does this; it's a unique situation but her opening up to him isn't so bizarre in my opinion - running into her conveniently is a bit contrived though that's true.
17:52 He would absolutely do that to help people. Remember that, even if corrupted by the power of the Death Note, Light has a really strong sense of justice, and he really wants to live in a world where only good people aren't afraid to walk on the streets and show their faces. His objective can be viewed as ultimately good, but he's also an arrogant young genius that thinks that everyone that disagrees with him is also evil (because he's too smart to be wrong), and he hates to lose.
Your comment is a spoiler.
Why your comment is a a spoiler:
You state that it has been established at this point in the story that Light has a strong sense of justice. I think that's false. Light had gotten the Death Note in the first episode, so we don't really know how Light was before he got the Death Note at this point. We do know that Light is willing to kill innocent people, which seems the opposite of having a sense of justice!
I believe you are using information about Light from future episodes in your comment, which makes your comment at least spoilery.
Another reason why your comment is a spoiler is that you implied that Light might have been corrupted by the Death Note. You've brought the topic up even though this is a topic that will be explored in future episodes.
Stop liking that spoilery comment guys! You are complicit in spoiling. (3 likes at this point)
@@apoptosisduellinks109 "I am justice.
I've always thought this world is rotten.
There are so many people that no one would miss if they disappeared.
Then the world would truly move in the right direction.
And I would create a world of earnest, kind humans."
All things Light said in the first two episodes that clearly show he has a strong sense of justice, and that he's always believed the world would be a better place if evil people faced worse punishments.
And the fact that power corrupts is a no brainer for anyone that has even a basic understanding of phylosophy or psychology. Also, Light was horrified after committing the first few killings, questioning for days if he had the right to use such an evil power, and only afterwards he convinced himself that not only he was right to use it, he was the only one in the world with the right smarts and mindset to change the world for the better, ending up convincing himself he could become the god of the new world. I can't think of a better representation of "power corrupts", and it's all in the first episode.
Go back and rewatch the first two episodes instead of crying spoiler, because I was very careful in using exclusively information we already have at this point.
@@TheDahaka1 Just because Light says he is justice or even thinks he is justice doesn't mean he has a really strong sense of justice. And the reactor has shared this same sentiment multiple times in his reactions to Death Note. So no, I think it has not been established in the first two episodes that Light has a really strong sense of justice.
It's rude to tell a stranger what to do.
@@apoptosisduellinks109 "I've always thought this world is rotten.
There are so many people that no one would miss if they disappeared.
Then the world would truly move in the right direction.
And I would create a world of earnest, kind humans"
You might disagree that this describes actual justice, because I do as well, but from Light's own point of view he has a strong sense of justice, and his father and the police he helped solve cases strongly agree.
The fact that his motives might be wrong and that the huge power given by the Note gave him a way to easily warp that sense of justice does absolutely NOT invalidate the fact that he has, or at least had, a strong sense of what's right and wrong, and a strong conviction that evil people should be punished and good people should be able to live a good and peaceful life.
That is exactly what a strong sense of justice is. You can bring an actual argument to the table instead of strawmanning my argument and telling me what I shouldn't do.
Consider how outrageously lucky this was, and then also consider the likelihood it gets light to chill out or be more cautious rather than inflame his god complex further and how dangerous that is for him.
He doesn't respond with "Wow, I only got away with this because of pure luck". He's like "I AM GODS CHOSEN.".
While I do think it's a little irritating as a device, using it as a tool to gain more insight into Light makes it tolerable in my view.
In addition to the other comments arguments, I’d say keep in mind that the story involves shinigamis, so the notion of divine luck is not that far fetched, or at least less far fetched than in many other stories.
This is just a theory of mine. I think Light pretended not to recognize the receptionist so the receptionist would mention the fact Light helped them solve crimes in the past. He did it so he could gain some trust with Raye Penber’s fiancee. Light said “sorry, I’m bad with faces” but I doubt that is true. Light doesn’t seem to be the type to be bad with faces imo, so I think that was a lie.
18:00 well before the death note he was just a genius with very good intentions aspiring to become a detective
Btw in the book that contains all the characters' "stats". This girl here has the worst luck stats lol.
lmao what book,, it sounds fun
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Speaking from personal experience i think it's asking too much to be guarded and rational when you're into this stage of grieving.
Still like you said, very convenient timing indeed.
so would you do what L did sending those 12 agents? and would that be +12 to the counter?
No, only if it had been one of the people from the squad they form because they were informed I think.
@@storieswithstyle L works on a similar, but different moral standpoint when it comes to deaths.
Light will kill anyone who stands in his way to achieve his goal of global peace in a world without crime where he will be regarded as a god of justice.
L will use and sacrifice people and send them to potentially suicidal conditions to get closer to Kira. L don't want anyone to die, but if they die, he usually shrugs it off and doesn't take it as a complete loss, like this time. But there is a huge difference - L would not send anyone to go fight on the frontline. He only sends people who know the danger who know that they can and very well might die and still want to do the job. If they die, they died in the line of duty, protecting innocent people. He will mourn them his own way, inwardly. But when it comes to innocent people, L would not stand for that. Because he is on the frontline with them. He can drop dead from tiniest mistake now. And he would gladly die if it meant that Kira would be caught. He might seem unhinged, but he has a strict moral code.
I’m sorry but it’s genuinely hilarious to think of a fucking 6 episode anime where all tension is immediately resolved by Kira being apprehended. Like what’s the story?! Someone found a killer notebook, they kill a lot of people, immediately caught and arrested. Like…….okay? Cool manga, cool anime ig??
5:09 L found Kira! He’s right behind you!
Well, I'm sold on your reactions. Now to go back and check out all your other reactions. Very neat, glad I kept watching
So yeah them showing up at the same time is convenient for sure but it’s not random. It makes sense. After killing all the FBI agents Light was thinking it all over for awhile paranoid he might have missed something and after some time decided he should probably check in just to see if he could get any info on the case. At the same time the girl is trying to work out who Kira could be using the information her fiancé gave her so she takes some time to follow leads. Eventually with the little that she knows she thinks she has something and decided she needs to report to L who is trying to catch her fiancé’s murder. You even said at the time why doesn’t she report what she has found and then right after that she is doing just that. What’s convenient is that they showed up at the exact same time. That’s like a 30 minute window at max for them to cross each other and they somehow did but it’s not like it was impossible or out of nowhere. They displayed there stories in parallel so you could have seen it coming if you were looking for it. I’m not trashing on you btw just putting out my observation of it.
An excellent play for light here, a woman's insecurities are the easiest to manipulate
Yeah, I always felt this meeting was too much of a lucky happenstance. I really like how he plays his cards to gain her trust, but the meeting itself is just so dissatisfying.
You said “can watch 1 more” at the end, does that mean we will get the next video faster?
no, he meant for himself not his schedule of videos making/sending to youtube.
"Gotta watch one more..."
6:07 He want to be recognized as the World Dominator, and he want EVERYONE to recognize his intelligence! That's pretty obvious! As any childish, brilliant mind, he want recognition! And to be praised for his qulities! He also want to "improve" the World he's about to dominate, eliminating all the criminals. Later in the show, he will also said that, done with the criminals, there are also other people he don't like, that he want to eliminate, but I won't spoiler.
first you say its a COINCIDENCE and that you dont like that
thats fair but shows always have this
if it didnt happen or everything was as it was irl it would not be a fun show and COINCIDENCE happens it heppens with light when he gets the dn
also you see the cops say he did police work with his dad and etc
in her eyes he seems like he could be trusted what are the chances of him being kira
so she goes with him when he says he can help
ofc then you point out why is she telling him this info well one reason is the low chance of him being kira 2nd would be that he cant do nothing if he has no name 3rd is she wants to tell someone she cant wait to do it before this she could not talk about this with anyone she has been out the game so she is thinking what if im crazy and this is all wrong 4th would be a spoiler for next ep but she saw some of L in him maybe she thought he was L idk
Anything just to trash on Light right cause it's the popular and "right" option 😂 but hey, such is what you get when you have a villain protag that has a fan-favorite as his rival
Well, for starters, Lights father could have been Kira, so yeah, she was suddenly really dumb for writing purposes. Even worse next ep. I heard the writer did admit he wrote himself into a corner with her, and that would make a ton of sense. =)
@@storieswithstyle your first point is wildly stupid bro, writing off the plot because “whataboutisms”, like sit back and enjoy the story. His dad’s the Chief to add tension it’s not coincidence, the childish sense of justice was born off the fact that his father enforces the law.
No, the naomi episodeswere pretty faulty and i will not just praise everything but give you honest opinions. Does not matter s lot though as the eüisodes after thqt are utter genious again. I think all stories have parts that ste not perfect snd that is completely fine :)
@@storieswithstyle then don’t call it out as if it completely rips you out of the FICTIONAL STORY. I get it, the world in DN is pretty on par with our world, but there has to be a plot. Most of us would like light to be caught fast but it doesn’t pad out well STORY wise, Light is a bad person who manipulated Naomi and was able to get an advantage based on her own personal feelings. Coincidences happen in OUR WORLD so it’s not so off kilter that they would occur in DN. Without it there would be no story, the whole point is the Task Force disagrees with L, if we have Two characters (L and Naomi) coming to the same conclusion with damning evidence, the story ends and prematurely at that. Sometimes you have to know when to hold them and know when to fold them. This is a story, the only true flaw exists in your expectations.
I was also supremely annoyed by this! I understand the conceit of this world is that Light is smart enough to help the police, but that means any random ex FBI agent is going to trust him automatically?
6:31 Well, that's obvious.
Upload the next one, I'm learning English and enjoy a lot your content
Random example of a situation, completely unrelated to any attack on titan in particular...
yep, no connection. what even is AoT? =D
It's not a coincidence that she and light met. It may seem that way on the surface. Lights father just began working with L, and since people had left pulling over nighters for days now. Him needing a change of clothes makes sense. Light still wants to appear like his dads son and bring him his clothes, making an appearance keep life as usaul. Naomi just lost her fiance and has this information no one is picking up the phone she goes there to share the information she has reflected on while the timing is incredible. They were bound to both go at this time. There wasn't another way. So its not coincidence its very likely that they would have met. I don't blame you for seeing it as such, but I've watched Death Note, no lie a hundred times. But yeah food for thought. Love your content started at death note now on season 2 of attack on titan with you and ive never watched and aot react. But yeah your awesome but i dont think this is as big of a coincidence as you believe. For example this was the closest police station since he was stationed in the hotel to monitor light. It all makes sense i promise :)
Yeah, and if L met her, it's an even bigger coincidence and then the information she has ab kira killing with more than a heart attack would basically check mate him it reveals how he controlled the hijacker and he died with a non heart attack they would investigate who raye penber was assigned to that day see it was light and L solves the case. She absolutely was so incredible that her information no one else knows wouldve solved the kira case immediately
Definitely not a wasted character due to sheer coincidence. Also theres is a huge book with her in it so shes very awesome and very beloved. Read the book its canon and incredible and set before deathnote take place
@storieswithstyle pleaseeee read!?!?!?!
How so? Sure it's likely that were bound to met around the same time frame, but at the same time? If Naomi was off by 5 min Light and Naomi wouldn't've met. And if she did come in contact with the police before this, it would've been game over. But maybe I am missing something.
@@pimentx3253 its not extremely likely. But it's not unheard of. Same odds as you seeing someone you know at the grocery or park. It happens
dude you are aware that kira is the good guy here, he is cleaning the planet of the criminal scum, and that is the only reason the law went against him, he is the friren, the criminals are the demons, quoting other examples of good guys (deadpool, punisher, wolverine, wonder woman), batman in the movies, etc...
Yes, like murdering innocent FBI agents and purse snatchers, just like batman does :D
@@storieswithstyle innocent FBI agents, that's a first one, maybe molder, but you admit the fbi is just protecting the "demons"
@@storieswithstyle but batman kills criminals in movies right 🙃
@@evasimbiot are you seriously comparing law enforcement authorities and their perfectly legal families to criminals?
Besides, Batman only killed in a few rare shows.
@@nyarlathotep466 sarcasm??? Serios quesiton
What is your count I wonder, I see 2 all the time and wonder what it means.
Kills i agree with :D
this is not a hate comment by any means, but i think you're judging the show and the characters too critically because you as the viewer know way more than the characters do about Kira. I understand the easy mistakes they sometimes make can be frustrating for you because you as the viewer know that Light is manipulative and shouldn't be trusted, but from the characters perspectives he's a son of the chief detective, often helps with criminal cases, is top of Japan's students and is really kind - there is no reason for them to be unreasonably suspicious of him and not trust him at all. Light is amazing at subtle manipulation and finds ways to get what he wants without anyone realizing, because he has a good reputation. It's like a sociopathic extension of ''don't help with anything around the house and you won't be expected to do chores, and if you do even the smallest thing, you'll be applauded''
my bad! i just watched a bit more and you acknowledged that you know more than the characters and thats why its frustrating, in that case i take my accusation back :) but still please be mindful of that and try to view the situation more from the characters eyes
I will pay you good money for you to switch to dub😭😭
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Why would the agents not have code names?
I always skip this episode when i rewatch the show. It's just a bunch of walking.
Ah finally at my least favorite part of the series. The fact she had to be made completely incompetent after showing how brilliant she was really annoyed me. It was clear the writer had to get rid of her as quickly as possible because otherwise Light was already cornered. It would've been interesting to see a version of the series where dumb luck and asspulling didn't save Light here. Probably would've been a much shorter series in all honesty. It would've been pretty cathartic to see Light taken down not by the most brilliant detective in the world, but the loved one of the innocent man he took down in cold blood.
I think he want only to win. Being a god, being childish and the act he hates to lose, he is like a child who want to win a game, to be the best. For that he need power that's true, even if it's not directly his motives. In my opinion, he is just a very narcissic person, that's why his motive is only to win.
That's true for at least 5-12 characters, not just light 😂
@@SoloKatOnly And also true for billions of people on our planet. Glad the Death Note doesn't exist.
She gave him an alias. So yeah, she is at least that smart. The question, of course, is she smart enough? We'll find out next time...
nice spoiler mate.
@@smeartyke Raye did mention her name in the last episode so it's not exactly a spoiler. But if the detail was missed it would certainly seem like a spoiler.