The Flash - How to Frustrate the Audience | Anatomy of a Failure

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025

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  • @Filmento
    @Filmento  Год назад +1236

    No new movies on digital to cover right now after this, but I'll see if I can keep up the weekly uploads with something else. Let me know what movies or topics you'd like me to cover
    (oh and check out my Patreon if you want to support my quest to keep uploading once per weekend. Thanks and thanks for watching as well!)

    • @binary1045
      @binary1045 Год назад +71

      Could you do Pacific Rim? Seriously underrated film. You could rip it to shreds and I'd still enjoy the video, though I think it's deserving of a positive review

    • @申月営無営月無営有申
      @申月営無営月無営有申 Год назад +34

      Across the Spiderverse.

    • @RevanR
      @RevanR Год назад +17

      Since Barbie movie is in box office, how about you cover each Barbie animation movie?

    • @swastikarya941
      @swastikarya941 Год назад +25

      why dont you try RRR ?

    • @n0classified
      @n0classified Год назад +6

      I wanna see Oppenheimer and Barbie's Film Perfection when these two goes HD in about two months

  • @Akursedtime
    @Akursedtime Год назад +2709

    The fact that the Flash had so many filming, director changes, Ezra Miller and production issues. It would make a more interesting movie documentary than what we got.

    • @elperrodelautumo7511
      @elperrodelautumo7511 Год назад +92

      I would prefer a documentary in making the worst Flash movie. Ever.

    • @ClarksonNo1
      @ClarksonNo1 Год назад +34

      I dunno, considering all the issues it was surprisingly good. It has a lot of issues yeh but its still a decent film.
      The obvious changes that would make it better are a bit confusing though

    • @roboninja3194
      @roboninja3194 Год назад +47

      @@ClarksonNo1 That's your opinion and I respect it but I feel it's an atrocious movie and there is a reason it bombed on such an epic level. If you think about it Batman serves no purpose. Yes he helps them find Supergirl but she also serves no purpose. They could both be removed and the plot of the movie doesn't change. I loved Faorah in Man of Steel but as he said in the video what a waste here. I'm not even sure that's the real actress who played her. It looks more CGI than anything. Even Zod feels pointless. Barry's mom died when he was a child so Barry could've went to any time after that but somehow ends up right as Zod shows up? Pretty convenient. It all feels so forced. The cameos are garbage CGI fan service. Batman and Supergirl's death are so unemotional.
      It feels like fans have been conditioned to like trash. The bar has been lowered so much now that when a movie is average you have fans calling it amazing. Pretty CGI and explosions seems to be what the typical super hero fan cares about now. Or a cameo of their favorite character. You said you felt the movie was good. Would you mind saying why you feel it's good? Cause whenever I see people say 'It was great/good' I never see them say why.

    • @WallEWorld
      @WallEWorld Год назад +7

      I'd just rather watch The Death of Superman Lives

    • @A0142-m1j
      @A0142-m1j Год назад +3

      ​@@elperrodelautumo7511it would be a like the making of the room all over again 😂

  • @R2debo_
    @R2debo_ Год назад +6850

    Ezra Miller is alleged to have harmed others. Not so with Downey Jr. He was really only harming himself. Not a fair comparison.

    • @bboi1489
      @bboi1489 Год назад +239

      True

    • @raymondwatt9773
      @raymondwatt9773 Год назад +1362

      Ezra Miller HAS harmed others and he's credibly accused of doing much worse

    • @bboi1489
      @bboi1489 Год назад +183

      @@raymondwatt9773 Also true

    • @GaryKetchum808
      @GaryKetchum808 Год назад +501

      ​@@raymondwatt9773he's insane. Cops, especially hawaiian cops, will not arrest you not once, but TWICE for no damn reason.

    • @thehahvokexperience
      @thehahvokexperience Год назад +49

      @@raymondwatt9773the only confirmed thing that he did was getting arrested for disorderly conduct in a bar. All the other allegations aren't proven and some are pretty far fetched. There isn't as much evidence as you think

  • @theprantadutta
    @theprantadutta Год назад +7149

    This movie is the perfect depiction of what happens when multiple writers write and update the same movie.

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Год назад +320

      Yep, you can feel that the final script was just a mismatch of a lot of different ideas from a lot of people and the studio

    • @rodryguezzz
      @rodryguezzz Год назад +178

      True. Also, it's about time studios stop writing movies in ways that make them become CGI fests like this one. If artists aren't able to keep up with all the crazy schedules, it should be a better idea to make things simple instead of making what looks like shitty video game cutscenes.

    • @supdude6968
      @supdude6968 Год назад +70

      Correction: multiple writers writing and updating the same movie separately.

    • @RandomPerson-tz7wk
      @RandomPerson-tz7wk Год назад +91

      Correction: this is what happens when executives keep changing their mind. The writer completes the script and was not kept for rewrite or scene change. Executive hire a lesser writer to do rewrite. Repeat until production began and move away from the script because directors, actors, and other higher suits demand scene change without taking into consideration of the whole story. And they bring a new writer who was barely given enough time to read through the initial script and made change that is requested to satisfy everyone involved.
      You end up with a zombie script made by many people input without a solid story structure.

    • @drbuni
      @drbuni Год назад +26

      A problem that will soon disappear as there will be no more writers or artists, only AI generated trash.

  • @ru5h1n68
    @ru5h1n68 Год назад +771

    I'm very impressed how they managed to keep the cgi quality between the CW show and the movie so consistent!

    • @beardedgaming1337
      @beardedgaming1337 Год назад +13

      lmao!!

    • @x340x
      @x340x Год назад +60

      are you kidding? CW shows are basically Avatar in comparasion to this movie lmao

    • @TripisEpic
      @TripisEpic Год назад +3

      bruh 💀💀

    • @Chuberto145
      @Chuberto145 Год назад +10

      @@x340x the flash CW show had good cgi in the beginning but it was gone after season 4

    • @taijoseph2345
      @taijoseph2345 Год назад +8

      @@Chuberto145 cw never had good cgi, it just looked better in the earlier seasons because of the time

  • @mr.oinks_5_424
    @mr.oinks_5_424 Год назад +1599

    The fact that Christian Bale rejected making a cameo in this movie was a smart move he made

    • @liamphibia
      @liamphibia Год назад +152

      He'll only come back to the role of Batman if Christopher Nolan agrees to make another Batman film... Guess not now.

    • @juandefreitas6586
      @juandefreitas6586 Год назад +121

      ​@@liamphibiaas a fan of the dark knight trilogy, i hope they don't touch it.

    • @jvelez5381
      @jvelez5381 Год назад +25

      But Thor Love and Thunder he did.

    • @lazariusvfx
      @lazariusvfx Год назад +8

      hahaha and what about the Thor cameo? that was the worst of all, and the Thor 3 movie and Christian Bale's character.

    • @sifprx
      @sifprx Год назад +19

      ​@@lazariusvfxbut that didnt hurt his batman trilogy, the way tdkr ended was beautiful n if he made a cameo it would be wack

  • @astrobat1638
    @astrobat1638 Год назад +2053

    The problem I faced with Supergirl in the final battle of this movie was that she was just a briefcase that was failed to be protected the whole time.

    • @x_.suzaku._x
      @x_.suzaku._x Год назад +140

      She is useless at the end, she did absolutely nothing, give us the most disappointing "fight" scene ever compared to Superman V Zod

    • @Yukari-ui8fe
      @Yukari-ui8fe Год назад +185

      ​@@x_.suzaku._x I mean, she got locked up for god knows how long. Superman fought Zod at full capacity while her at barely recharging.
      It's like when you used your lvl 5 characters against an lvl 50 boss, she destined to lose and it's kind of shame. Because there's another ending where she and Keaton Batman survived and showed up at Barry's father court.
      She's criminally underused and I loathe the writers on that, her performance was good whenever she's show up.

    • @hotterhatter2211
      @hotterhatter2211 Год назад +37

      She was just another woman in a fridge character. I thought we were moving past that trope but I guess not. 😢

    • @aussiewanderer6304
      @aussiewanderer6304 Год назад +44

      ​@@hotterhatter2211women in the fridge was that they are passive and their death motivates the hero.
      She was not passive, and she was the weapon they needed to win the fight (they were unlikely going to win without her), not a damsel killed to motivate anyone.

    • @hotterhatter2211
      @hotterhatter2211 Год назад +72

      @@aussiewanderer6304 "female characters are injured, killed, or depowered (an event colloquially known as fridging), sometimes to stimulate "protective" traits, and often as a plot device intended to move a male character's story arc forward, and seeks to analyze why these plot devices are used disproportionately on female characters"
      This is from wiki. They do not have to be passive to fall into this category. Any female character whose role is to die in order to move the plot and/or male characters involvement forward is considered fridging.
      Supergirl was killed over and over for Barry to try and change the timeline. That is literally what fridging is. While it might not be as bad as old comics, it still falls in this trope.

  • @ssoory6343
    @ssoory6343 Год назад +1382

    The flashpoint paradox animated movie was so emotionally satisfying. Probably the greatest final scenes which hits harder than all the nostalgia punches in this movie.

    • @adithya_ps
      @adithya_ps Год назад +16

      I agree

    • @Norrin277
      @Norrin277 Год назад +70

      Yeah, it’s like, they literally had so many actual templates that they could straight up just…follow. They had the recipe for success, but they fucked it….mostly cause Ezra is in it

    • @jordanfelt5978
      @jordanfelt5978 Год назад +44

      ​@@Norrin277I haven't even seen this movie but even I can tell you that that's a stupid thing to say. Like, even if the actor sucks as a person. That has absolutely nothing to do with how good or badly a movie is written. Like it's completely irrelevant, Ezra Miller isn't a bad actor even if he's a 'bad person'.

    • @logannelson1807
      @logannelson1807 Год назад +4

      Important reasons why the flash movie failed.
      It failed not because of this movie's bad CGI, bad script writing, bad scenes which made nonsense and disrespecting the legends.
      It failed because of Erza Miller, the greed/ immorality/ arrogance/corruption of Warner Bros & new president of WB Discovery David & James Gunn of DCU Studios.
      Before the movie release,
      Erza Miller committed crimes, choked a woman on raw camera in foreign country(Iceland), arrested multiple times, facing disturbing & disgusting allegations of bad things he did. What did WB do? WB protected him instead & tried to cover up his crimes and make sure this didn't go on media but it's too late. WB bribed the couple Erza threaten with, to drop restraining order against him.
      WB defended him not because of positive testings but because he is part of the normalized cults(LGBTQ, woke culture, non-binary,pronouns) they don't want to offend. The same normalized cults & drag queens allowed by US Government under Biden Administration to deceive, indoctrinate, brainwash & corrupt underage children with gay agenda, nudity, pedophilia, adult & child pornography & manipulate them into transition (surgercial mutilation to turn innocent children & teens into transgender) those who transit willingly & unwillingly faced mentalnproblems, committed suicide, etc. America is messed up.
      WB & Andy director of Flash helped Erza Miller evade the police while filming the reshoots of the flash movie. The police were after him because he avoided the court order to stay away from the native American teenager he was accused of abusing her sexually, physically, emotionally, mentally & influencing & manipulating her since she was 12 years old.
      One of the fools in WB wrote in twitter that this movie will make you forget Erza's crimes. Thanks to him, everyone searched him online and jhis crimes are exposed.
      Want to make a good superhero movie & make the audience happy, fire the bad actor, replaced him with another actor, hired a different talent director to correct mistakes, changed the script & reshoot the scenes and remove the original scenes like this in this bad movie BUT NO, Warner Bros didn't do the right thing & chose to make bad business decision. WB don't care what Erza Miller did especially if he was responsible for the disappearance of his girlfriend and her children - the one crime Erza Miller committed and noone is talking about due to arrogance of WB(old & regime along with VFX guy, Andy director, Jamesi Gunn & David of WBD) protecting the criminal below.
      In case noone(especially you) knows, Erza miller is involved in missing persons case (his new girlfriend & her children) last year, Her family haven't heard from her since they were living with Erza Miller in the barn. All signs point to him due to evidence of domestic violence and child neglect.
      This disappearnce happened after Erza Miller was arrested for breaking in & burglary,
      . Law enforcement & child protective services came in the barn looking for them. Their belongings of the mother & children were there but not in the house. Erza denied(lied) to the police he hasn't seen them in months. Does it make sense for the mother and children to leave their stuff & leave? His bail was paid & have no evidence against him.
      See proof below
      www.google.com/search?q=ezra+miller,+missing+girlfriend+and+missing+children&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjI49PVkdH_AhWeUaQEHchqAm4Q0pQJegQIDBAB&biw=360&bih=610&dpr=2
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      Erza Miller was arrested multiple times for assault & intentionally assault the young woman with the chair(nearly killing her - she has one inch cut on her forehead) , threaten to kill the couple, caught on camera choking the female fan, etc and the disturbing allegations of pedophilia, sex cult leader, liar & manipulator sociopath & psychopath, assaulting & acting creepy around women & children, etc - the things he was accused of before he was cast into Fantastic Beasts. A person capable of violence & the allegations he is accused of above is also capable of murder, hiding bodies, getting away with murder with or without the help. Some allegations he was accused of turned out to be true., etc. You better pray & hope the missing mother and her missing children are falive & ound safe. If they're found deceased & evidence points to Erza, Erza will be arrested & won't getaway this time, this is the DCEU legacy, Zack Snyder & whoever chose to cast Erza will get blamed, & brutal end lawsuits will destroyed WB & demise of WB for choosing to defend & make the movie in stead of morally doing the thing like fire Erza & replace him but no
      Defend this movie all you want, you chose to support the criminal(& possible murderer) & the corrupted film studio WB who turn the blind eye & support him, made him make fake apology, bribed the couple to drop restraining order against him & hid Erza from the police in order to do reshoots of the Flash.
      Ignorance is not the Same as Innocent.
      ruclips.net/p/PLyXviVu3m5Ch1lgGinC6MiDSJS_Nx4NE4
      Is this the legacy you want for young fans to remember the superhero movie starring the man who assaults people, nearly killed two women and is responsible for the disappearance of his new girlfriend and her children?

    • @jordanfelt5978
      @jordanfelt5978 Год назад

      @@logannelson1807 oh yes, the movie failed ONLY because Ezra Miller is a bad person. Do do you even hear yourself? That makes no fucking sense, I think you need to get off the internet for a while and go touch some grass, dude.
      Seriously... go do that, you wrote a whole ass college thesis in the comments section of a RUclips video about some things that one random celebrity has supposedly done, and WHAT does it accomplish?
      I promise you nobody here actually cares that much. Especially because even if these things are true there's nothing anyone can do about it. Regardless, there's so many other things you could with (I imagine) the lots of time it took you to compile all of this information and put it together and to write this whole essay. Like...why?

  • @jackback9466
    @jackback9466 Год назад +1677

    Truly breathtaking when Barry flashed all the civilians in the movie

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 Год назад +241

      Truly an Ezra Miller in the presence of minors moment

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Год назад +91

      It's flashin' time

    • @TheStraightestWhitest
      @TheStraightestWhitest Год назад +64

      Ezra Miller is such a proud transgender non-binary with the way he treats minors. A true representative of all LGBT!

    • @Menaceblue3
      @Menaceblue3 Год назад +32

      ​@@LuisSierra42
      Gotta flash!

    • @usapostate23
      @usapostate23 Год назад +27

      Such a daring improvisation from method actor Ezra Miller

  • @kidkatanatv
    @kidkatanatv Год назад +2951

    I love the fact he just knowingly kept calling Supergirl Superman...hilarious

    • @hermitcard4494
      @hermitcard4494 Год назад +123

      Just call her female Superman. Same a female Zorro 😂

    • @MG007.
      @MG007. Год назад +187

      That was the middle finger to everyone who wanted another Henry Cavill Superman.
      Edited.
      I mean, we did not want a Flash movie, but we wanted to see Man of Steel 02. It could have introduced that lovely lady as Super Girl & featured everyone at the end in cameos. Rather, we got this terrible movie.

    • @RedTheWeeb
      @RedTheWeeb Год назад +84

      ​@@MG007.Henry cavill literally likes her for the role

    • @eddiepalmer9543
      @eddiepalmer9543 Год назад +103

      @@RedTheWeebthats no excuse for crappy writing

    • @RedTheWeeb
      @RedTheWeeb Год назад +219

      @@eddiepalmer9543 the actress has literally nothing to do with the writing you're just blindly hating on a woman for playing a character that has existed for decades in the comics

  • @arilizart9375
    @arilizart9375 Год назад +884

    I’m reading a book right now about how to write fantasy, and she actually mentions the idea of “balancing plates”. Every scene you juggle up plates to keep the audience interested, and you set down plates once they are satisfied. Each plate is a narrative line. If you throw up plates and never bring them down, or just drop them ungracefully, your audience will be frustrated. You need to set up plates, and then bring them down with the same flare you juggled them up with.

    • @devilsadvocate6098
      @devilsadvocate6098 Год назад +59

      I like this metaphor. Another one I've heard of is Chekov's gun. You don't introduce plot lines if you don't revisit them later. There's no point teasing a gun throughout a book that doesn't lead to anywhere.

    • @aibi5532
      @aibi5532 Год назад +16

      what's the book name?

    • @arilizart9375
      @arilizart9375 Год назад +19

      @@devilsadvocate6098 Chekov's gun is a classic

    • @arilizart9375
      @arilizart9375 Год назад +30

      @@aibi5532 "The Fantasy Fiction Formula" by Deborah Chester. My favourite part about the book is that it opens with one of her students saying he didn't trust anything she said. He basically just ignored her advice, got nowhere with writing, and then on a dare from her decided to actually follow her formula. Now he has published over 20 books and has a show.

    • @Pleasant_Green
      @Pleasant_Green Год назад +12

      @@arilizart9375 I love this book. It brings up lots of really useful practical ideas I've never seen before. Definitely recommend it to anything interested in writing fiction generally, not just science fiction or fantasy.

  • @Qwazin
    @Qwazin Год назад +239

    The Flash: "Throughout this film I have learned the lesson that you have to accept things that happen to you and that you can't change your past, therefore I am now going to instead solve my problem by changing the past."
    Great writing! 👏👏

  • @dylanwirjono6540
    @dylanwirjono6540 Год назад +1093

    I fully agree with everything you said in the video. I think a better way of doing the multiverse scene if they REALLY wanted to showcase the cameos would be old barry and new barry running while fighting through the multiverse. For example, old Barry could try to run back in time to let his mom die while new Barry chases him trying to stop him. They would be punching each other into different universes. This would also be a really good call back to the actual Flashpoint comicbook/animated movie where an older barry allen runs back in time to stop his past self from saving his mom.

    • @Geraldo_Rivian
      @Geraldo_Rivian Год назад +9

      ​@SaleemFrazeramen. The arrowverse is OP

    • @jordanwhite352
      @jordanwhite352 Год назад +17

      It's also kind of funny because we got a very small taste of it in the Doctor. Strange multiverse of madness movie with American Chavez punching through different realities that would have been amazing to see as an entire 15 to 18 minute action sequence.

    • @hishamjalal9078
      @hishamjalal9078 Год назад +1

      sounds very cliche and lame

    • @kurtdelapaz2848
      @kurtdelapaz2848 Год назад

      sucks, generic and lame

    • @jordanwhite352
      @jordanwhite352 Год назад +7

      @@hishamjalal9078 And your idea would be?

  • @auronapi
    @auronapi Год назад +779

    I really want to see a live action Batman Beyond. But at this point I have zero faith that DC could pull it off.

    • @19Ronny
      @19Ronny Год назад +14

      im not really knowledgeable about all this stuff so i might sound stupid right now but isnt there already a movie called Batman Beyond?
      Nevermind, I’m thinking of Batman Begins lmao

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 Год назад +26

      ​@@19RonnyThe Batman Beyond movie is Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker.
      That whole series is way beyond the pay grade of the people making live-action blockbuster superhero movies these days.

    • @TheTaintedWisdom
      @TheTaintedWisdom Год назад +13

      Indeed.
      At this point, much like with Static Shock or modern Square Enix and a Final Fantasy VI remake, I'd much rather the source material be left alone than risk the unholy violations that would undoubtedly be visited upon the source material. Especially given that we were tragically robbed of the potential for Kevin Conroy to reprise his role anyway.
      Also, considering they already brought back a dead actor to prop up for *this* movie, it'd be easy to imagine WB ghoulishly propping up some macabe CGI replica of Conroy with a hollow A.I. generated voice speaking lines written by people trying to capture his essence in a cynical attempt to appeal to nostalgia without so much as an ounce of effort to actually pay tribute.
      Compared to that genuinely horrifying prospect, a reality bereft of a live-action Batman Beyond/Static Shock feature production seems whimsical, warm, and fuzzy.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 Год назад +8

      @@TheTaintedWisdom _Static Shock!?_
      Modern Hollyweird would _implode_ if they even tried to touch material that sensitive. 💥

    • @Ironica82
      @Ironica82 Год назад +6

      @@TheTaintedWisdom Funny thing is, your nightmare scenario of an AI Conroy is one of the reasons for the actors guild strike.

  • @sushant832
    @sushant832 Год назад +623

    The thing I personally like is how some of the Kryptonians die by Flash but only Zod is able to react to super speed for some reason.

    • @sushant832
      @sushant832 Год назад +88

      @levelOneAnimator But why is it different?
      Anyways it doesn't matter. They didn't bother to explain it in the movie.

    • @yanjirujan193
      @yanjirujan193 Год назад +57

      Well, most of us can't keep up with pro athletes even though we're both human. Same logic here, not all Kryptonian have same reaction speed like Zod

    • @sushant832
      @sushant832 Год назад +91

      @@yanjirujan193 Stupid analogy.
      Even among normal humans, the reaction time is not astronomically different.
      And even human soldiers who are trained to better their reaction time also don't astronomically differ from normal humans.
      Call it inconsistency in a bad movie and leave it at that.

    • @yanjirujan193
      @yanjirujan193 Год назад +24

      @@sushant832 stupid analogy? Look at yourself, comparing them as "Kryptonian" rather than soldier and their superior
      What a joke

    • @sushant832
      @sushant832 Год назад +50

      @@yanjirujan193 Are you making a parody out of yourself or what? u just compared athletes to kryptonians and it was okay but a joke when someone else did it?
      .
      And like I said, I compared human soldiers because they generally have higher reaction time compared to normal humans. And these were trained *Kryptonian soldiers* shown in the movie. That's why I compared Kryptonian soldiers and human soldiers. Based on reaction time only.
      .
      To put it simply, there is nothing that implies such a stark difference in the reaction time of different Kryptonians like you are trying to pretend.

  • @jackkain7141
    @jackkain7141 Год назад +63

    4:00 Them fumbling the conclusion of the mom's death drove me the most nuts. At the end Barry went back and altered time to save his father, but didn't even bother with a passive peak to find out who really murdered his mother. Even if he couldn't stop the murder, he could find out who did it and prosecute them later in the future.
    As to the purpose and ultimate death of Super Girl, you could argue that it was trying to show how the loss of women in their lives negatively affects the Barrys. Old Barry loses his mother and sets up the circumstances of the movie, New Barry loses Super Girl and kicks off the movie's actual events. Except that New Barry and Super Girl have zero screen time to develop anything resembling a meaningful relationship, or really a relationship in any way. He wasn't even the one that rescued her from the Soviets.

  • @mdavisdavis9588
    @mdavisdavis9588 Год назад +266

    It’s crazy that the calorie thing never came up again despite it being such a huge plot point at the start of the movie

    • @nurhanazhari1644
      @nurhanazhari1644 Год назад +30

      THIS I agree. It even bothered me that they never bring that up again in the third act of the movie. Like isn't that calorie thing was a important point?

    • @Korra228
      @Korra228 Год назад +13

      The editor could've just cut it out but didn't... This movie baffles me

    • @AnimeFrrTehWin
      @AnimeFrrTehWin Год назад +3

      Second Barry does need to eat when he gets the Flashy powers tho...

    • @natashacutiepie6074
      @natashacutiepie6074 10 месяцев назад +1

      Nothing will ever top the plot holes in Game of Thrones.

  • @anubusx
    @anubusx Год назад +1281

    Having General Zod as the main villian for a Flash film makes no sense.

    • @Zombiesnyder13
      @Zombiesnyder13 Год назад +102

      He wasn't the main villain
      It was the old Flash

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx Год назад +250

      @@Zombiesnyder13
      Him being there seemed really forced. Barry and him have never interacted once. I just felt they should've of left him out.

    • @BehuraStudio
      @BehuraStudio Год назад +138

      Dark Flash was lamer than Zodd and had less screentime too
      So much potential down the toilet

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx Год назад +96

      @@BehuraStudio
      A film based on Flashpoint should be the third film in a Flash trilogy.

    • @BehuraStudio
      @BehuraStudio Год назад +96

      @@anubusx yup, but this is DC we're talking about. The guys who thought killing off Superman in his SECOND film was a good idea lmfao. I'm not even a Flash or Superman fan but MAN! this frustrates even me! Lmao

  • @silenthero2795
    @silenthero2795 Год назад +131

    The Flash is everything that the fans thought Spider-man: No Way Home would end up like.

    • @taiteakopyte1504
      @taiteakopyte1504 Год назад +2

      😂😂

    • @bluemindstudios3256
      @bluemindstudios3256 Год назад +3

      It actually is, but No way home dida a great job with the fanservice, except from the actual movie.

  • @jkl9984
    @jkl9984 Год назад +65

    This movie felt like a few separate movies crammed into one. How many writers worked on it?

    • @tonyvernet3381
      @tonyvernet3381 6 месяцев назад +3

      Too many, that’s how many.

  • @mastrxl
    @mastrxl Год назад +895

    The fact that Ezra Miller is still in this film hurts it beyond any shitty plot or filmography could

    • @hassanboy9950
      @hassanboy9950 Год назад +27

      Straight out

    • @robertweekes5783
      @robertweekes5783 Год назад +47

      They could have replaced him with Joseph Gordon Levitt. He looks enough like him, and still youngish. What happened to him? I haven’t seen him do a movie since Looper (great flick btw) or 100 days of summer

    • @august4476
      @august4476 Год назад +22

      Finally someone said it

    • @u2bozzi871
      @u2bozzi871 Год назад

      Who tf watches movies for political reasons? I DoNt liKe HiM MoVIE BaD faced ass

    • @hokaloah100
      @hokaloah100 Год назад +1

      Right?! I don’t care if the movie is the greatest, most expensive, most well acted and written, with the most realistic cgi. If you put shitty people in your movie and I know they are shitty people, I’m not going to support it.
      I actually liked Ezra miller in the justice league, but that was before I found out what a garbage human being he was.

  • @carlosalbertolealrodriguez5529
    @carlosalbertolealrodriguez5529 Год назад +309

    8:05 The other way to describe it, the movie lacks of the CHEJOV GUN principle: Chekhov's gun is a narrative principle that states that every element in a story must be necessary, and irrelevant elements should be removed.

    • @mysterionslyther5762
      @mysterionslyther5762 Год назад +10

      Then how will they make movies.
      I mean it would require a lot of work and Stretching small plot points is much easier, just put a butt load of money in actors

    • @Hanmacx
      @Hanmacx Год назад +34

      The problem: the gun is there, it just isn't being used

    • @Кожуркаотпомидора
      @Кожуркаотпомидора Год назад +24

      @@Hanmacx, well, that's why it's "Chekhov's" gun: gun is there, but there is no Chekhov's (i.e. the one, that actually shoots) one.

    • @SpaceCase132
      @SpaceCase132 Год назад +30

      It’s like having a military film where they showcase all of these high-end guns, vehicles, tanks, and other types of equipment to be used in confrontations throughout the film, only to have the cast use nothing but pistols from the Napoleonic Wars and never mention the modern equipment, as if it never existed and we were always meant to expect the Napoleonic pistols.

    • @TitularHeroine
      @TitularHeroine Год назад +7

      If you see a Batman in the first act, then that Batman must detonate in the third act.

  • @WoodyandDaffyDuck
    @WoodyandDaffyDuck Год назад +204

    The beginning intro is pretty much, an accurate description of why Tom Cruise loved The Flash in such a high praise.😂

    • @UltimateNut
      @UltimateNut Год назад +6

      “This is what we need right now”

    • @jwroot
      @jwroot Год назад +8

      I don't understand what made Tom Cruise see the Flash as an absolute win.🤷🏻

    • @studebricker2845
      @studebricker2845 Год назад +2

      Tom Cruise still wearing a mask LOL

  • @youtubesucks8024
    @youtubesucks8024 Год назад +296

    Mission Impossible was awesome, but the best acting Tom Cruise ever done was saying he loved The Flash, without laughing.

    • @somecallmejeremy
      @somecallmejeremy Год назад +42

      The biggest stunt Tom Cruise has ever done in his acting career.

    • @sitizenkanemusic
      @sitizenkanemusic Год назад +14

      Acting on Born on the 4th of July wasn't as demanding compared to him saying he "loved" The Flash.

    • @kdkseven
      @kdkseven 8 месяцев назад

      Tom Cruise is a terrible person. He's the public face of a criminal, human trafficking, child abusing cult. And he's not a good actor.

  • @Rellik165
    @Rellik165 Год назад +21

    I know I should be listening to the actual storytelling lessons that Filmento is imparting to us, but I'm just really invested in how absolutely tortured this "holding the hand of a girl" metaphor is getting the further this video goes on.

  • @richardvasquez1666
    @richardvasquez1666 Год назад +345

    I feel real bad for Sasha Calle. She was the real stand out in this movie despite not being in it for too long. She did a really good job. It's too bad she won't be reprising her role.

    • @Jon_EL
      @Jon_EL Год назад +15

      Yeah to be fair superman in the comics flashpoint doesn’t do much either

    • @thatonerotom8999
      @thatonerotom8999 Год назад +20

      Hasn’t been confirmed yet as far as I know. I have a little bit of hopium in me but I wouldn’t be surprised if she gets cut.

    • @Angivel
      @Angivel Год назад +13

      True. I know nothing about Kara, other than she's Kal's cousin, but I really liked her and would have loved to see more if her. They wasted her and they did Batman dirty, every version of him.

    • @alexstark7620
      @alexstark7620 Год назад +4

      Come on, she doesnt do anything in the movie and her acting was poor. Dont be so simp

    • @monsterjambrony
      @monsterjambrony Год назад +9

      She's so awesome! Also, she's so pretty!

  • @KR-P
    @KR-P Год назад +287

    I like your idea to tie in the opening to the rest of the film. It would make the film seem more unified and less prejudiced towards people living that area. You’re a genius.

    • @marcosdheleno
      @marcosdheleno Год назад +26

      to me, the movie needed a completely diferent opening. one that forced barry to go back, as opposed to have him want to.
      also, i love the mensage of the movie "dont fix the harm you do, just move away and treat it like it doesnt exist" and "with great powers comes no accountability".

    • @KR-P
      @KR-P Год назад +10

      @@marcosdheleno Yeah I can see that beginning too. Like Batman dying or getting seriously injured and/or the city being destroyed. The film actually does have him want to fx his mess its just that he makes another mess right after.

    • @rosagabrielaalbertella6704
      @rosagabrielaalbertella6704 Год назад +3

      My idea would be to use KGBeast (they Russian guy from BVS; he is a Batman villain in case you don't know). He could have returned as a mercenary hired by Falcone wanting to have a rematch against Batman (or just have him instead of Falcone). Then, on the alternate timeline, he could have been the one in charge of Russian facility.

    • @26349
      @26349 Год назад

      @@marcosdhelenobut he literally fixed the harm he did?? He went back and took the can of tomatoes back put of his mother’s cart so she would d!3??

    • @victormiguelmontero136
      @victormiguelmontero136 Год назад +1

      ​@@26349Yes but in the process he changed the timeline again by proving his father was innocent, at the end he didnt learned anything and created another timeline

  • @marqueseason6360
    @marqueseason6360 Год назад +206

    I would have loved to see a Wonder Woman v.s. Faora show down.

  • @JcgLounge
    @JcgLounge Год назад +48

    I really want to see Dc films make a comeback. I really want most superhero movies to be fantastic again. This, encapsulates the entirety of the DCEU. James please don’t disappoint.

    • @Chhjmmkg
      @Chhjmmkg Год назад +6

      Same. I'm tired of marvel bs.

    • @NoNono-o3h
      @NoNono-o3h Год назад +1

      Ignoring James gunn is both a very inconsistent director and a regular at the Epstein island

    • @TrojanLlama
      @TrojanLlama 6 месяцев назад +2

      They did it for The Batman, so it’s not impossible. They just need someone (like James Gunn) who understands the characters.

  • @feebtubereal
    @feebtubereal Год назад +235

    About half of these issues are a result of trying and failing to adapt Flashpoint; Superman's rescue meant something in Flashpoint because everything after the escape was different, plus it tied into the US Government stuff with Cyborg who is GONE (wonder why). "Dark Speedster" was Reverse Flash in Flashpoint, a character who's already been long-running in other media and is motivated to make Barry's life worse, also providing a good excuse for plotholes; good old Eobard did it! The circumstances were so grim that Flash was taking things more seriously, so he worked as a serious protagonist. Other villains are completely secondary, so they're novelty characters; evil variants of Aquaman and Wonder Woman who exist for cool action and take up little "screentime" while Reverse Flash handles the character stuff.

    • @salmantorik6091
      @salmantorik6091 Год назад +7

      i think theres's something to do with production hell

    • @tio_john
      @tio_john Год назад +36

      we lost the chance to have "it was me Barry" in live action.

    • @atlas3556
      @atlas3556 Год назад +6

      From what I have heard about the film, I believe that the dark flash in the film may have actually been none other then the Black Flash. He doesn't have a character because for the most part he's literally a part of the Speed Force and acts as a sort of protector and enforcer. Then again the lore of the Flash, while appearing whimsical on the surface, is extremely convoluted so I might be wrong.

    • @lunatic0verlord10
      @lunatic0verlord10 Год назад +2

      @@tio_john One of the unforgivable crimes of this movie.

    • @channelsofash
      @channelsofash Год назад +13

      I've read the Flash Point comic book and watched the Flash Point animated movie so the trailers looked like someone had read the back of the graphic novel but didn't bother to actually open the book up.

  • @aaroncornish9955
    @aaroncornish9955 Год назад +507

    Also, the biggest plot hole and example of lack of mindfulness to me was - Barry had to desperately get to some food in order to save the babies but some how younger Barry could run back and forth through time infinity times.. like.. he must have had to eaten 30 million burritos

    • @mrbluesky4838
      @mrbluesky4838 Год назад +30

      It was said in the character biography his metabolism and body transformed from so much use of the speed force and being biologically infused with Kryptonian technology

    • @orpheus..
      @orpheus.. Год назад +13

      So you being ignorant due to lack of proper info about something somehow creates "the biggest plot hole"? Sure, random guy, sure. 🙄

    • @solidpandacka5544
      @solidpandacka5544 Год назад +24

      @@logannelson1807 sir this is a wendy's

    • @ShinraArmy
      @ShinraArmy Год назад

      @@logannelson1807 holy shit get banned

    • @yangcrates5683
      @yangcrates5683 Год назад +7

      @@logannelson1807 wtf

  • @arcanelight8365
    @arcanelight8365 Год назад +266

    Barry could have time travel to the past and find who was the killer, then travel back to present and find the killer and make him confess about killing his mother. Thats how he could save his father and do justice for his mother. I guess the flashpoint needed to happen😅

    • @trebeezy16
      @trebeezy16 Год назад +144

      A fucking receipt from the store where his Dad bought the tomatoes would've been enough evidence. The cashier at the store. Traffic cams taking pics of his car. Barry's dad should've never gone to prison in the first place.

    • @arcanelight8365
      @arcanelight8365 Год назад +49

      @@trebeezy16 poor writing in general

    • @RAINBOWNIGTHMAREPRODUCTIONS
      @RAINBOWNIGTHMAREPRODUCTIONS Год назад +37

      @@trebeezy16 Maybe his dad didn't get a receipt but that's true. The whole conceit of this film is so dumb. Just like No Way Home.

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Год назад +32

      That's true. They completely ignored that part of the story. It's strange that the mom's killer never comes up again. I thought that the final would be Barry finding out who killed his mom, and finding out it's a villain he knew.

    • @RAINBOWNIGTHMAREPRODUCTIONS
      @RAINBOWNIGTHMAREPRODUCTIONS Год назад +14

      @@nerychristian I bet Zoom was the main antagonist in earlier drafts.

  • @Blades500
    @Blades500 Год назад +7

    What frustrates me is that the animated "Flashpoint Paradox" movie does everything this movie does but 1,000,000% better. The mom's death, Batman, world collapsing, everything. Hell even the couple episode run of the TV show did it better.

  • @08aoc
    @08aoc Год назад +49

    3:44 Glad to see someone points out the failure in the plot for Flash to uncover who killed his mother? Barry sticks his head through time but can't be bothered to see who murdered his mum pretty dumb 😢

    • @WalkerRileyMC
      @WalkerRileyMC Год назад +9

      We all know it was Reverse Flash....they just didn't want to add him in because they had to jerk off Zod a bit more for whatever reason. lIke...seriously....did we *really* need to reintroduce Zod in a Flash film? I'll answer, NO WE DID NOT.

    • @austinstino7571
      @austinstino7571 Год назад

      Because Barry didn't want to

  • @Legendkiller6945
    @Legendkiller6945 Год назад +54

    The fake running makes me laugh and takes any seriousness out of any scene where it takes place

    • @SeanWheeler100
      @SeanWheeler100 Год назад +9

      Especially the part where he runs to Gotham and his legs move in slow motion while he's travelling at high speeds, meaning all his steps are sliding in a way that should make him fall over. Impossible skating!

    • @Breakfastststst
      @Breakfastststst Год назад +2

      But y’all loved no way home lol

    • @SeanWheeler100
      @SeanWheeler100 Год назад

      @@Breakfastststst I didn't.

    • @Legendkiller6945
      @Legendkiller6945 Год назад +1

      @@Breakfastststst the flash looks like Jimmy Pesto Jr running

  • @aimanhalim6203
    @aimanhalim6203 Год назад +61

    Man I really love your movie breakdown. You view and comment on the movie objectively.
    At first I kinda enjoy the movie because of the same reason as you but when you make this video it really shows that this movie have a lot of inconsistencies and useless scenes that leads to nowhere.
    Anyway I really love your videos, keep it up.

  • @PeterHowe228
    @PeterHowe228 Год назад +32

    In 2013 DC released an Animated movie called The Flashpoint Paradox that hit some of the same beats as this movie but in my opinion was much better. It would be interesting to see you do a side by side comparison.

  • @docvince1491
    @docvince1491 Год назад +374

    Season 1 one of “The Flash” has better effects than this multimillion dollar movie.
    How is that possible?

    • @austinstino7571
      @austinstino7571 Год назад +13

      It's not

    • @thehahvokexperience
      @thehahvokexperience Год назад +34

      It doesn't 😂

    • @freezingicy9457
      @freezingicy9457 Год назад +67

      it dosent but it looks better because they used the cgi smartly. barrys suit wasnt cgi and the cgi which was used wasnt in your face but mostly blurred streaks of lightning

    • @warv6039
      @warv6039 Год назад +7

      Very large stretch

    • @Grasslander
      @Grasslander Год назад +8

      I didn't see much of it but some, and read the plot, and it was actually pretty interesting. With the evil Flash and the guy in the wheelchair. (Who I will forever think of as the lawyer Ed from the series with the same name.)

  • @dunklerLord
    @dunklerLord Год назад +169

    Can we talk about that Barry only acted extremely weird around Iris like he's mad or something and yet Iris asked him out on a date at the end of the movie???? It was the thing that disturbed me the most. (And the mother who just hugged a random person at the supermarket not knowing it was her son)

    • @thewayofthebeard3680
      @thewayofthebeard3680 Год назад +26

      Yes! There's no way that would happen in real life!

    • @avsecam
      @avsecam Год назад +29

      Tbf the iris at the end isn't the iris at the start of the movie

    • @allenmurallo3730
      @allenmurallo3730 Год назад +18

      I would argue Barry was acting weird throughout the entire movie.

    • @py16667
      @py16667 Год назад +27

      They also had zero chemistry

    • @aa-hp6zr
      @aa-hp6zr Год назад

      she didn't know it was her son bc Barry was still a kid lol

  • @maximpershutin8257
    @maximpershutin8257 Год назад +65

    The problem with the movie, in my opinion, is that the writers wanted to copy the Flashpoint paradox without the good things. Instead of a showdown against Eobard Thawne while the universe is dying, there's just Zod and nothing else. Instead of Barry getting his powers back being a big thing and a huge plot event, he just gets lifted by supergurl and thats it. And so on, and so on. The only good thing, that could have been incredibly beneficial, is to make Barry face against his younger self Civil War style (which Filmento talked about), but thats about it

    • @jordanfelt5978
      @jordanfelt5978 Год назад

      You think that's the problem my dude? That's kind of funny because obviously you've seen flashpoint paradox. I also fucking love that movie, but honestly I would say that one of the main problems with this movie is the fact that they don't even bother to have any version of the reverse flash in it. He's such an interesting villain, because he's a perfect foil to Barry Allen. And them not even bothering to have one of the most well known, infamous comic book villains of all time in this movie (which would have been the perfect time to do so) is straight-up retarded.
      Like I really don't understand why it seems like DC is trying to compete with Marvel to create a multiverse like Marvel. They already have really great stories to draw from but they just aren't. It's crazy.

    • @notoriousadrian4369
      @notoriousadrian4369 Год назад

      except that, barry getting his powers back was better in live action lmao, Its a pretty big thing, not just "being lifted by gurl", he was also about to die in Bruce Wayne's house by failing the first try like in the animated movie, but in loveaction, supergirl, the one who rejected saving humans , comed back after every hope is lost, and lifts him into the storm, and EVEN after all that we get a pretty emotional part after the final battle, Im sorry if you can see it but thats honestly better 😂😂😂

  • @jeffreyyoung6714
    @jeffreyyoung6714 Год назад +13

    I love the commentary but your editing skills are legendary and absolutely hilarious please do more reviews!

  • @Grasslander
    @Grasslander Год назад +58

    15:26 "What ends up happening is that it doesn't work, and then Superman returns..." I see what you did there

  • @CappyK
    @CappyK Год назад +404

    I loved the Spider-Man multiverse movie so much it hurt my chest. I feel like this should have been equally as good. Imagine if Zod was crushing the heroes and you wound up with multiple versions of Superman coming back to help. Expensive nostalgia machines like this need to hit you in the FEELS with something poignant - Andrew Garfield catching MJ got me teary. Maybe having Henry Cavill be there for Flash, because he also couldn’t save his Dad in Man of Steel might have hit the feels button.
    DC just doesn’t know how to craft something that makes a fan feel anything; saw End Game on the opening weekend, this dude screamed when Cap was holding Mjolnir. Straight up shrieked with joy. Imagine having an old, half broken Bruce Wayne use Green Lantern’s power ring or something. DC has all these huge open goals to kick and they just keep missing…

    • @SCIFIguy64
      @SCIFIguy64 Год назад +47

      Because DC is desperately grasping at the current trend marvel successfully pulled off rather than try something new.

    • @LostSoulSilver
      @LostSoulSilver Год назад +5

      At the finale, Blue Lantern Superman and Yellow Lantern Batman team up for the last time in the DCEU

    • @ReigoVassal
      @ReigoVassal Год назад +6

      I love flashpoint series especially the animated movie and this movie is like a spit to it.

    • @memphisbluu
      @memphisbluu Год назад +4

      Lmao your idea isn’t any better

    • @pixiv9823
      @pixiv9823 Год назад +8

      No way home is trash if you take the nostalgia out it's one of the worst movies 😅

  • @grfrjiglstan
    @grfrjiglstan Год назад +58

    Here's a question: why does Howard the Duck look more at home standing next to actual humans in Guardians of the Galaxy than actual humans do in this movie?

  • @michaelnorman4
    @michaelnorman4 Год назад +451

    I loved the part where Barry said "it's flashin time " and flashed all over everybody

    • @spongeman1512
      @spongeman1512 Год назад +9

      Everyone loves that tho, except DC fanbois. 💀

    • @Lolbittube
      @Lolbittube Год назад +17

      Now that meme makes sense here and morbius

    • @LordMegatron05
      @LordMegatron05 Год назад +1

      I also like to flash people

    • @shuttittuppitt9355
      @shuttittuppitt9355 Год назад

      Or "Come on Barbie, let's go party".

    • @benjaminrichard4632
      @benjaminrichard4632 7 месяцев назад +1

      Man, I love the part where the flash said “time to flash!” And then flashed all those dudes

  • @n0classified
    @n0classified Год назад +273

    The Flash is basically No Way Home and Across the Spiderverse but executed poorly in terms of CGI and nostalgic cameos
    Also it kinda feels weird to watch a Flashpoint movie without a Reverse Flash

    • @thehahvokexperience
      @thehahvokexperience Год назад +4

      The cgi was bad but the cameos were good!

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Год назад +76

      @@thehahvokexperience none of the cameos were good, they looked like wax sculptures

    • @kaiokenkaiowhat9343
      @kaiokenkaiowhat9343 Год назад +39

      ​@m.g.michael6976And the ones that are actually alive like Nic Cage received not a single penny for their CGI likeness in the film.

    • @jeremiahgrayest
      @jeremiahgrayest Год назад +6

      No Way Home's CGI was also shit

    • @Seoul_Soldier
      @Seoul_Soldier Год назад

      @@jeremiahgrayest Hard disagree. It was less in your face and they used actual actors instead of CGI ghosts. Watch the movie again before you say more stupid shit.

  • @en1324
    @en1324 Год назад +54

    I think this is the problem with multiverse concept stories. They end up being inconsequential because there's always another universe with the same characters.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Год назад +11

      DC's multiverse in the comics is interesting because there are only 52 universes in "the local multiverse" and they're radically different from each other for the most part. They might have a "Superman" and a "Batman" but the characters from one aren't interchangeable with characters from another. The "Superman" from Earth-4 is actually Captain Atom. The Superman from Earth-23 is a Kal-El from Krypton but he's black and happens to also be the president of the US. The Superman of Earth-3 is also a Kal-El of Krypton but he's evil and calls himself Ultraman. DC's 52 multiverse is more to explore how the characters as archetypes work in different settings and can be used to tell some entertaining stories.

    • @kayaanbedi5554
      @kayaanbedi5554 Год назад

      ​@@BiggieTrismegistusMarvel's multiverse >>>>>>>>

    • @ot7biasedmashups
      @ot7biasedmashups Год назад +3

      I wish filmmakers learned from Loki, EEAAO and The Spider-Verse. You can truly create consequential and intense multiverse stories if you aren't chasing the bag

    • @kayaanbedi5554
      @kayaanbedi5554 Год назад

      @@ot7biasedmashups DC Multiverse 🤮💩
      Marvel Multiverse ❤️🗿

  • @ayanbasu11
    @ayanbasu11 Год назад +520

    As a lifelong flash fan, you hit the nail on my major complaints with the movie. But, in terms of general story and general characters, I actually enjoyed this film. The fact that Young Barry existed to completely contrast Barry was actually a genius idea.

    • @vision7media36
      @vision7media36 Год назад +55

      honestly, the film wasn't perfect but i definitely enjoyed it
      the hate train for the film is...sigh

    • @ZeonEons
      @ZeonEons Год назад +20

      The opening scene of babies falling in a ridiculous action scene of proportions would sink any movie lol
      Microwave on standby

    • @vision7media36
      @vision7media36 Год назад +1

      @@ZeonEons lol like I said
      Not perfect
      The cgi could have been waaaay better

    • @isvaraov
      @isvaraov Год назад +9

      @@vision7media36 Not the film itself, it was entertaining and Supergirl is Hx0xT but the actor playing Flash and the company that fired Henry Cavil, Jack Sparrow and allowed this crazy criminals in their movies.

    • @ZeonEons
      @ZeonEons Год назад +12

      @@vision7media36 nah the scene itself even if the CGI was perfect was ludicrously bad lol

  • @spicywave
    @spicywave Год назад

    8:09 is like when I wanted to be more social in school and always dapped up everyone I knew but never stopped to make a conversation or show them I'm glad to see them and then wonder why I had no real friends

  • @jojo_lion
    @jojo_lion Год назад +9

    Glad that you're back to releasing videos weekly, we appreciate it!🍷🗿

  • @How_Many_Monkeys
    @How_Many_Monkeys Год назад +87

    When you first mentioned the hand-holding allegory, I thought it was kinda silly. But then you brought it back around at the end and it turned it into a neat little bow that makes sense. Well done dude, I like it 👍

    • @UberHeroMystic
      @UberHeroMystic Год назад +6

      His writing is better than the movie lol.

    • @samuelperezgarcia
      @samuelperezgarcia Год назад +7

      It's all part of the hand holding cinematic universe!

    • @zackyfaisalb9007
      @zackyfaisalb9007 Год назад

      i am still wondering how wild this video would be if he stay with the seggs allegory, lol.

    • @GippyHappy
      @GippyHappy Год назад +1

      Personally I liked when he started talking about spaghetti

  • @JcBravo8
    @JcBravo8 Год назад +73

    Flash of Arrowverse did this Flashpoint arc and visualized the multiverse in a better way. Simply by having the future Flash appear to stop past Flash with Flash watching his past future self stop him. And it carried the horror of watching your mom die, watching yourself try to stop it only for yourself to stop yourself, watching yourself it happen, and knowing you probably did stop it but something went wrong to make yourself go back to stop yourself.

    • @araturi5
      @araturi5 8 месяцев назад +1

      Great comment👌👌👌

  • @stevensteviepryde5888
    @stevensteviepryde5888 10 месяцев назад +2

    The thing that I hate most about this movie is that they had so much to work with to make this movie good like the Flashpoint story and return of Bat Keaton, but they managed to fumble on almost every aspect of the movie. Certainly didn't help that the star of the movie is a very vile person so that made it start rough, and the terrible everything would seal it's fate and reception.

  • @chesssse6607
    @chesssse6607 Год назад +70

    They could have gone with the flashpoint story with Thomas Wayne as batman. Would have been so cool to see that story enhanced on the big screen with more depth to each character there. But no, you have to go with Keaton batman cameo.

    • @NobleRaider2747
      @NobleRaider2747 Год назад +22

      It's not a cameo, a cameo would be like 2 minutes
      Flashpoint Batman doesn't work because he's supposed to be an older, darker, grittier Batman who kills people with guns, and guess what? Batfleck was exactly that in his very first movie... an older, darker, grittier Batman.... who kills people with guns. It's not special anymore once you've seen it already.

    • @bekari.oddaj.mi.wakacje
      @bekari.oddaj.mi.wakacje Год назад

      ​@@NobleRaider2747yeah but its nostalgia motivated

    • @williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511
      @williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511 Год назад +1

      Debió tener también una guerra atlantes amazonas y el villano reverse flash

    • @forickgrimaldus8301
      @forickgrimaldus8301 Год назад

      ​​@@NobleRaider2747till its weird that Keaton Batman just replaces Batfleck without any explaination, it would have been interesting if like Supergirl being Superman's Nanny that Batman is actually Thomas Wayne,
      You can still keep him looking, acting and talking like Burton Batman but it would have been more emotionally investing.

  • @chloebidwell228
    @chloebidwell228 Год назад +48

    Just to point out. The lightning having to happen twice is part of Flashpoint, the story this was based on. He fails then, tries again... A fundamental part of the story. The main difference being that in the Comic Barry gets struck before they can re set up the process. But he is meant to lose powers, try to get them back, fail, then successfully regaining powers.

    • @ALittleLateLotusBlossom
      @ALittleLateLotusBlossom Год назад +1

      Really ridin' the D of that one animated movie ain'tcha? You, insatiable weeabu you.

    • @autobotproductions1244
      @autobotproductions1244 Год назад +10

      @@ALittleLateLotusBlossomthat movie does adapt the comic beat for beat

    • @MurasakiTsukimaru
      @MurasakiTsukimaru Год назад

      @@ALittleLateLotusBlossom When a movie adapts a comic exactly, you tend to like it because hey, they did a good job adapting that story you liked.
      Then again, you're enough of a dipshit to call someone a "weeabu" for liking an american movie about an american story.

    • @Chhjmmkg
      @Chhjmmkg Год назад

      @@ALittleLateLotusBlossom excuse moi, that term is reserved for weirdos obsessed with japan.

    • @Chhjmmkg
      @Chhjmmkg Год назад

      i don't understand how that is different tho..

  • @optimascrime5235
    @optimascrime5235 Год назад +87

    My three biggest problems with this movie were
    1.Ezra Miller
    2.DC/WB announcing months before the film even came out that the flash wouldn't be part of the Rebooted dceu which scared away general audiences as it is.
    3.The rushed Visual effects which is a weird because filming wrapped up in 2021 and the additional scenes didn't need visual effects and say compare something like the new Transformers movie where that had last minute visual effects scenes for test audience's and that film looks good tear compared to the flash like Bruh...At least Michael Keaton's Flash was pretty dope and the film itself was alright but not great like it could have been

    • @kurogotbeats
      @kurogotbeats Год назад

      how did u edit this and somehow misspelled visual

  • @NintendoTherapyPodcast
    @NintendoTherapyPodcast Месяц назад +1

    My biggest frustration was that he was way more interested in giving his Dad an aliby than he was in finding out who killed his Mom.

  • @Grasslander
    @Grasslander Год назад +35

    12:26 Ah, what could have been. Nicholas Cage as Superman. Okay, so we don't live in the WORST timeline.

    • @jokerzwild00
      @jokerzwild00 Год назад +8

      It's ok I mix up the words best and worst sometimes too.

    • @c.s2193
      @c.s2193 Год назад +2

      We are living in the best timeline. A Nicholas Cage Superman movie is the only thing that can save the dcu

    • @randallflagg3700
      @randallflagg3700 Год назад

      Nicolas Cage as Superman killing the giant spider that Kevin Smith infamously ranted about in *"An Evening with Kevin Smith"* was glorious.
      Cage named one of his sons Kal-El, he's earned the right to play him at least once, even if it's for 5 seconds.
      *"Superman Lives"* would have probably sucked, but I'm still a bit sad that we didn't get to see Nic Cage as Bizarro in the episode of HBO Max *Strange Adventures* that Kevin Smith was supposed to write.
      That's one cancellation that actually upset me, but hey, we got a fantastic Bizarro in the show *Superman & Lois* , so I'm not all that broken up about it anymore.

  • @edwardosquidawardo
    @edwardosquidawardo Год назад +71

    This movie for me, is DC’s TASM 2. There are some very compelling story elements and ideas in this movie, that I love, and think is some of the coolest stuff in a superhero movie (A future version of the main character, being their own mentor is crazy) However, the execution of said ideas, and the shoehorned in Cameos and Easter Eggs made my skin crawl.

    • @WERV2003
      @WERV2003 Год назад +1

      Lightyear did it better.

    • @g.d.graham2446
      @g.d.graham2446 Год назад

      TASM 2?

    • @redjackett273
      @redjackett273 Год назад +1

      This is the perfect description for this movie

    • @williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511
      @williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511 Год назад +1

      Tasm 2 es batman v superman quisieron poner la justice league parademons el joker la muerte de superman sin saber como iba a resultar el universo

    • @edwardosquidawardo
      @edwardosquidawardo Год назад +1

      The Amazing Spider-Man 2

  • @5Ci0N
    @5Ci0N Год назад +43

    For the record, Micheal Keaton and Sasha Calle were NOT the problem.
    It was Ezra Miller, the CGI, and the plot; in that order.

  • @5uspicious_Person
    @5uspicious_Person Год назад +9

    I feel like the most important part of writing a character nowadays is personality & conflict. If you remember both, you’ll be able to actually make a good story.

  • @ShadoSpartan44
    @ShadoSpartan44 Год назад +10

    5:10 totally agree, i was like wow the stakes sure just shot up with that statment, and couple seconds later it's over and forgotten about. I was like wow that felt cheap and lame to do to us

  • @christianinfinity8206
    @christianinfinity8206 Год назад +11

    I remember filmento was begging for more Faora and I can feel his pain when he was talking about how they wasted her AND Zod in this movie.

  • @telan2207
    @telan2207 Год назад +4

    I feel like ive been gaslit everywhere i go about this film. this seems like the first actual honest take and its exactly how i felt after watching. this fim was like running in a dream, but everywhere this film comes up on social media people seem to defend it.

  • @yutaadi
    @yutaadi 10 месяцев назад +2

    All I can remember from this movie is the horrendous CGI from start to finish.

  • @bw1llis
    @bw1llis Год назад +21

    You had me until "the tomato sauce breaks the logical and thematic point of the spaghetti" 😂😂 Brilliant!

  • @mathewwilliams6801
    @mathewwilliams6801 Год назад +30

    The one thing that bothered me to this day was his inability to defeat Kryptonians with his incredible speed and time travel powers. I mean, with his capabilities, you'd think he would at least attempt the famous 'infinite mass punch.' It could have been such an epic moment if the writers explored that angle.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Год назад +1

      The Flash's powers don't work well against Kryptonians because they're also very fast while being *much* stronger.

    • @elitegaming3056
      @elitegaming3056 Год назад +8

      ​@BiggieTrismegistus tell me one rando non-famous kryptonian who can run with enough speed to time travel and run fast enough to punch with the mass of a dwarf star? Seriously, a speedster at original Barry's level would blitz the kryptonian forces that were currently on earth ten times over before they could perceive it even happened. Writers don't want flash to get any points when facing kryptonians, especially the well-known ones like Zod or Kara, more so in comics than in movies. Also, strength is nothing to a speedster who has a very good connection to speed force, infinite mass punch is enough to overpower most strength feats shown so far in DCU

    • @Icyasmurf
      @Icyasmurf Год назад +3

      That’s what I thought I was waiting for the punch but it cool to see the other moves like the finger and tornado and the phase through the wall

  • @MethodGearSeb
    @MethodGearSeb Год назад +43

    Big props to Sasha Calle, who managed to impress me even though the movie didn't utilize Supergirl properly. I hope I get to see Sasha in more things.

    • @allendean9807
      @allendean9807 Год назад +1

      I agree. She was criminally underused. Even in the comic, Superman survived the final battle, only dying with everyone else when the atom exploded. I did agree, Zod would have easily beat her up, as she never used her powers, assuredly spending years in red light. In truth, it’s more understandable than the way Zod seemed to be a match for Clark, having lived his entire life supercharged by solar radiation, and aware of his powers. Powers Zod automatically mastered. It was one of my main issues with MoS….
      I would have liked to see her as Kara Zor-El, or even recast as an elseworld’s supergirl- child of Clark and Lois, or better still, Clark and Diana…

  • @GDLYxDriDri
    @GDLYxDriDri Год назад +3

    Barry's Mom's killer wasn't even looked into, and Barry treated it as if it was an insignificant detail and focused on a can of tomatoes 0-0

  • @KimiTarii
    @KimiTarii Год назад +397

    They should really keep her as Supergirl, her performance was great!

    • @edgebringr3494
      @edgebringr3494 Год назад +33

      Loved her performance

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 Год назад +51

      Not enough time to really show all she can do but she was great

    • @StratumPress
      @StratumPress Год назад +3

      lol

    • @Jose-se9pu
      @Jose-se9pu Год назад +16

      What performance? she is just there to punch CGi Michael Shannon, and then to die 1000 times to give the villain (who for some reason felt in love with her in the 5 seconds they spent together) a motivarion.

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 Год назад +9

      @@Jose-se9pu I don't think they said anything about love

  • @TheSuirad
    @TheSuirad Год назад +16

    14:56 The fight in the city idea would've been amazing to see. Also, the younger Barry somehow turning into the main villain I think would be a good plot twist.

  • @Mike14264
    @Mike14264 Год назад +21

    The weird thing is that, the ending ultimately went against the whole "let go" message of the movie. Not only that, but it also felt like the whole way how time travel works, how changing the past literally puts you in a brand new timeline, with its own past and future...
    ...ultimately seems to get ignored in the fight against Zod? I dunno, that's how it felt to me. Or maybe that's the point, that the timelines kept piling up?
    Also, none of the Barrys are hungry by the last fights, yet they arguably ran more, faster than the other running scenes... which makes me think, how was Black Flash able to spend so much time running, obsessing over fixing everything... without starving? Did he take breaks to eat something, or to go to the bathroom...
    ...ok, now I'm overthinking it. Maybe.

    • @robertweekes5783
      @robertweekes5783 Год назад +7

      You’re not overthinking, they probably just forgot about the hungry rule while cobbling the script together

    • @tadpolegaming4510
      @tadpolegaming4510 Год назад +3

      His caloric intake comes up constantly in Lord and Miller's early script draft for a Flash movie, which this movie steals the opening sequence of.

    • @baroquebeatz
      @baroquebeatz Год назад +1

      Adderall…… Duh!

  • @Wade_Tyler
    @Wade_Tyler Год назад +7

    Ok you got me at 6:49 with the road runner sound effect! 😂

  • @siamahnafdhrubo
    @siamahnafdhrubo Год назад +30

    I laughed way too hard @ 9:40 tom's scream 😂

  • @allenmurallo3730
    @allenmurallo3730 Год назад +124

    To be honest, Michael Keaton's Batman was easily one of the best parts of the movie for me. It was really great to see him as Batman again. I also enjoyed Supergirl for most of the movie as well. That being said, I thought Ezra Miller was fine as the Flash (still won't make me forget about his crimes, though)- however, his performance was both good and also annoying (as both young Barry and present Barry). Additionally, I did like the idea of that big cameo scene at the climax, but the execution of it was... iffy to say the least (this is mostly due to how goofy the CGI is).

    • @chairmanm3ow
      @chairmanm3ow Год назад +3

      I hear this a lot, that Michael Keaton was the best part of the movie. Why? What was so great about it?
      I couldn't figure out what he was even doing there.
      Why would Michael Keaton be in the same universe as Michael Shannon's Zod?
      Imagine replacing him with Ben Affleck. It's the same fucking movie, only now it doesn't need to contrive a reason for him to be Michael Keaton. It feels more cohesive. The emotional connection between him and Barry feels authentic because they already knew each other. Michael Keaton completely took me out of the movie. He was one of the worst things about it.

    • @gtaquizmaster
      @gtaquizmaster Год назад +5

      @@chairmanm3ow I don't get how there's no fan or nostalgia in you that's not hyped to see keaton come back as batman ?? Keaton deserved action scenes like those , the OG Batman

    • @delsinrowe2014
      @delsinrowe2014 Год назад +2

      Michael Keaton was SUPPOSED to be the best part of the movie. The trailers made it very clear.

    • @chairmanm3ow
      @chairmanm3ow Год назад +4

      It's the fan in me that demands substance. As I said in another comment, I love The Terminator. But I don't get any joy from seeing a 70-year-old Arnold show up in some piece of shit sequel to look at the camera and say "I'll be back".
      Frankly it's disrespectful to Keaton's legacy as Batman to bring him back in someone else's movie to try to boost ticket sales.
      If they were serious about it, it would have been its own movie and they would have gotten Tim Burton to direct it.

    • @gtaquizmaster
      @gtaquizmaster Год назад

      @@chairmanm3ow Arnold in the terminator comes all the time, keaton is a one off and he had a very important role here

  • @jakubrejak1114
    @jakubrejak1114 Год назад +38

    Thank you for mentioning the Barry & Barry dynamic. It was awesome.

  • @SirToaster9330
    @SirToaster9330 Год назад +5

    4:41 fun fact, the actor was so caught up in his role that he ended up cutting his hand

  • @adrianrobison
    @adrianrobison Год назад +5

    This is the best breakdown of The Flash I have ever seen. I 10000% agree with everything you just mentioned. You get it. I liked, subscribed, and shared. Cheers.

  • @Drizzzit
    @Drizzzit Год назад +19

    The different Batman actors were needed to separate the different timelines. That's why the opening sequence using Affleck was needed. It also tries to show Flash's role in the Justice league as the least valuable character. To me the this was also a needed part to show the development of the old Barry into a more mature person. Linking the Gotham terrorists into another timeline would have also been pointless as timelines differ.

    • @levischorpioen
      @levischorpioen Год назад

      But did we need a Bruce Wayne in that last scene, especially if there’s no plans to use that incarnation in the future? Wasn’t there another way to signify Barry being in a different timeline that didn’t involve cockteasing the audience?

    • @Drizzzit
      @Drizzzit Год назад

      @@levischorpioen Yes, of course :) But as it is currently done, that was the role of the different Batmans. There always can be better ways to do things, but then it also starts to be a personal preference which works best.

  • @BehuraStudio
    @BehuraStudio Год назад +7

    10:45 love the genuine pain in your voice lmfao! Same tho, they did Faora DIRTY!!!

  • @Necropheliac
    @Necropheliac 7 месяцев назад +2

    Imo the saddest part of this is that Sasha Calle was actually a great supergirl and it’s sad that her rendition of that character will never come back.

  • @Harleigh_19
    @Harleigh_19 Год назад +8

    Batman Returns is my favorite Batman movie of all time, so regardless of the movies shortcomings just being able to see Keaton one last time was worth it. I was grinning the whole time he was on screen.

    • @chairmanm3ow
      @chairmanm3ow Год назад

      But Batman Returns isn't good because Michael Keaton showed up to phone in some lines and collect a paycheck.
      The Terminator is one of my favorite movies but having Arnold show up in some piece of shit sequels at 70 years old to say "I'll be back" doesn't delight me. It pisses me off. It takes me out of the movie.

    • @Harleigh_19
      @Harleigh_19 Год назад +1

      @@chairmanm3ow that sucks for you then

  • @kehan6252
    @kehan6252 Год назад +5

    12:43 "If you include meaningful characters, you must do something meaningful with them"
    It suddenly came to me that DC was probably going for something like what No Way Home did, bringing back our childhood heroes but they failed at that.

  • @binary1045
    @binary1045 Год назад +21

    Could you do a Pacific Rim review? Seriously underrated film

    • @anubusx
      @anubusx Год назад

      It is really similar to Independance Day.

    • @sriramr8023
      @sriramr8023 Год назад +2

      @@anubusx the mecha fights were the main selling point of pacific rim and i dont see them in independence day, so the similar plots dont matter imo

    • @AbsolutTBomb
      @AbsolutTBomb Год назад +1

      Whatever it's currently rated is too much. It's visually compelling but that's about it.

  • @calvinbarney4737
    @calvinbarney4737 Год назад +3

    These kryptonians die so easily, it made no sense,even superman took forever to defeat the kryptonians

  • @slendertv3616
    @slendertv3616 Год назад +9

    7:28 well the thing with that choice is him letting go of his mom, accepting the past, but he’s still a superhero and he can still save his father.

  • @StriderStryker
    @StriderStryker Год назад +7

    You know it’s a bad sign when a director of this movie said the CGI is bad since Ezra Miller’s vision is full of NPCs.

  • @LeJonathan
    @LeJonathan Год назад +5

    @ 10:02 Mmm I agree with the argument but in the context of THIS movie, without Supergirl, main Barry would be dead from the failed power experiment

  • @Jarod-te2bi
    @Jarod-te2bi Год назад +5

    1:06 😂😂😂 I knew I loved your channel for legit reasons.

  • @__azt
    @__azt Год назад +5

    I fail to comprehend how Flash's Dad being in a camera would prevent him from facing murder charges. He could have easily returned home and committed the crime since he reached there while his wife was still alive.

    • @liltrippy8599
      @liltrippy8599 Год назад

      It's obviously reverse flash who did it but I'm guessing that's for another movie

    • @__azt
      @__azt Год назад +1

      @@liltrippy8599 Yeah I agree. If you are talking about flashpoint from CW Flash. I loved that sequence too much. The whole barry telling barry not to save his parents gave me goosebumps. The problem was they tried to over simplify flashpoint.

  • @jimmy2k4o
    @jimmy2k4o Год назад +7

    Also the double lightening thing is from
    Flashpoint paradox.
    First time it doesn’t work and Barry is badly injured, 3rd degree burns etc but he insists on doing it again and the second time it works.
    It’s comic accurate
    The inclusion of supergirl was a representation of how she “joined the team” to fight for humanity because before Barry’s speech she thought humanity were all like the soviets.

    • @levischorpioen
      @levischorpioen Год назад

      Great to hear that it’s comic accurate, but unless it makes sense within the medium and story of this current incarnation, the knowledge of it being comic accurate is nothing more than useless trivia meant to make comic book fanboys feel superior. In this film, the double lightning wasn’t developed well, therefore it made no sense and shouldn’t have been included. It being comic accurate isn’t an excuse. This still needs to be a film that works on its own, not just a live-action compilation of comic book moments. That’s not what a film is.

  • @flamingburitto
    @flamingburitto Год назад +4

    The frustrating thing to me is that in MOS, superman "killing" was a huge thing. He only did it when he had literally no other choice left and had to protect humans.
    But here this kryptonian warrior is beating human soldiers like it's nothing and she's presumably killed so many of them. But it's not even given a second thought.
    Also the power levels in this movie are such a joke. You're telling me that Michael Keaton's batman can ride a kryptonian warrior like he's a bull? The warrior that brought kal el to his knees?

    • @MylesKillis
      @MylesKillis Год назад +1

      Ehhh Kara isn’t normally as moral as Superman. This Kara was the Superman who got locked up which is normally also not a moral character in flashpoint.

    • @kin-3877
      @kin-3877 Год назад

      Why would Kara care about human lives when she wasn't raised here? Clark was raised by people as a human and not trapped in a Russian red sun scrotum

  • @darko-man8549
    @darko-man8549 Год назад +1

    You're point on bringing in multiple characters, is also how I feel about Star Wars right now; so much is about "here is this character"

  • @marcgittard9534
    @marcgittard9534 Год назад +16

    The idea of the Dark Flash character is perfection, but was terribly mishandled.
    Because the lesson of Flashpoint is that Barry must learn to let his mother die given all the time-traveling consequences there are. So Barry 1 agrees to learn this lesson and erase Flashpoint, but Barry 2 refuses and so continues for eternity to try to defeat Zod, but to no avail.
    So, the opposition between the two Barrys is clear and perfect. Like you said, it's a Cap Civil War disagreement level... SO JUST MAKE THEM FACE OFF IN A FINAL BATTLE!!!
    Having Barry 1 erase Flashpoint would have been earned, as it would have been after defeating Dark Flash. Plus, Dark Flash could have been doing this for centuries, so he'd be a real threat because he'd have a lot more experience.
    But no. Barry 2 just dies, so Dark Flash is erased from existence. The end.
    Dark Flash being defeated just like that is as if at the end of Avengers Endgame in the portal scene where the Avengers army is about to face Thanos' army, right before the battle begins, Thanos dies of a heart attack. The end.
    Cheap, lazy, unearned ending that doesn't resolve the film's stakes, when it could have been perfect after a final battle between Barry 1 and the Dark Flash. Hell, even a final battle between two speedsters across time and the multiverse would have been incredible (which would have been how we got the cameos, by the way).

    • @ozymandias8523
      @ozymandias8523 Год назад +1

      Damn dark flash could have been a good final boss for the movie, that movie had so much potential in terms of storytelling 😢

    • @cptlatham6126
      @cptlatham6126 Год назад

      I think the criticism of that would be that he was too much like Savitar from the show

  • @hblaub
    @hblaub Год назад +25

    At the very end you have the remarks about the food: Why is it important to the Flash to be able to run/live? And then no more? Would have been an interesting factor for certain later scenes to add any tension to.

  • @badabingbadaboom9251
    @badabingbadaboom9251 Год назад +19

    Faora's actress is one of the most beautiful women in cinema. She deserves more, she was in dark and she was fantastic

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen Год назад +1

      agreed!

    • @forickgrimaldus8301
      @forickgrimaldus8301 Год назад +1

      A lot of the Cast were wasted here, ironically even Ezra but I guess thats karma for his/their BS.

  • @bluecollarmenproductions
    @bluecollarmenproductions Год назад +5

    Your breakdown explained why I didn’t love the movie I liked it fine but didn’t know why I didn’t like it more all of this makes sense

  • @jorson2383
    @jorson2383 Год назад +43

    As others have said, too, I think there are a LOT of reasons for the failure of THE FLASH. Perhaps the simplest one is that Warner Brothers Discovery - unwilling and/or unable to put star Ezra Miller out there to promote the film in person - over-hyped it in a peculiar and questionable way, rolling out various celebrities to publicly praise it while first showing the full movie in April at Cinemacon and continuing to have so-called fan screenings for the next two months. Besides so many people having already seen the film by the time it was officially released, there was time for the word-of-mouth to become decidedly mixed and the so-called praise of celebrities like Tom Cruise and even Stephen King to be met with real skepticism. Ultimately, though, it's a victim of Hollywood's over-dependency on these kinds of expensive, high-risk movies that, for the most part, are made because the studio or some executive thinks they MUST be made rather than because anyone creative or talented WANTS to make them enough to sell a studio on a good idea.
    I think one of the consequences is that they rarely have staying power, and because of streaming and changes in viewer habits and expectations during the Covid pandemic, they no longer have enough time in theaters to really make the same kind of money they used to. This movie had been in development for a decade or more - maybe even since the late 1980's, but definitely since before Zack Snyder cast Miller in the part. Making matters worse is the fact that after 2011, Hollywood locked in on doing some kind of adaptation of Geoff Johns' FLASHPOINT comics. As the lead writer, Johns meant for FLASHPOINT to be a culmination of the character's story, NOT the official beginning of it the way this movie would be if it had turned a profit and justified the sequels that director Muschietti and others were supposedly thinking about pre-release. As the publisher, DC used FLASHPOINT as a transition into The New 52 - similar to the way James Gunn has said that it transitions into his upcoming DCU series - yet there is nothing in the movie that clearly does that because the film was made more than a year before Gunn got his job and none of the major heroes had been cast by the time of the final reshoots and pick-ups.
    I admit that I was eager to see this movie - mostly because of Michael Keaton (who is pretty much wasted and almost unrecognizable compared to his Batman in the Burton films) - but besides having a story that goes nowhere, it's a movie that has literally no reason to exist! Even if sequels were feasible, there's almost no way Ezra Miller is allowed to continue in the role, REGARDLESS of whether or not he eventually sees prison time for some of the things he's done, and the movie not only fails to set-up a replacement like Wally West, but doesn't even conclude in a version of the universe that anyone is willing to explore! There is also nothing heroic about this Barry Allen. EVERYTHING he does as Flash is either done grudgingly or because he has no choice - otherwise, as Keaton's Batman points out, why would he bother saving that version of Earth from Zod if he's able to just high-tail it to another Earth? And while I have to hand it to Ezra Miller for being able to play pretty distinct versions of himself, they're not only NOT heroic, but the younger one just vacillates between annoying and downright creepy. The only thing either one of them learns is that certain events are inevitable. If they wanted someone for Miller's Barry Allen to play off of, it should have been some version of Wally West, with the story providing some motivation for Barry to go from arrogantly thinking he can do everything by himself to seeing some inherent value in a partner.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Год назад +1

      I don't know why they're calling this character "Barry Allen" at all because he simply isn't Barry Allen. He's closer to Wally West, but Wally is nowhere near this goofy (and annoying). If they wanted a more comedic Flash they should have used Wally and then cast someone to play Kyle Rayner alongside him. The JLA comic book series from the 90s showcased the friendship they developed when they gravitated towards each other because they were about a decade younger than their teammates.
      Regardless of who they used I agree with you that the worst part about this movie is that "Barry Allen" isn't actually heroic in anyway. It was such a baffling choice by the creators.

    • @EricHamm
      @EricHamm Год назад +3

      Probably could of summed that up better, but the craziest thing is you know the executives and producers had all these thoughts and meetings AND STILL DIDN'T CANCEL THE PROJECT WHEN ERZA BECAME UNHIRABLE. Hollywood really needs to start capping the amount of money people get based on flops, if you flop you get a indie budget next movie. If you can't write a good story for a big budget then you write for TV. They keep writers and producers that keep failing for way too long.

    • @sjwjsaw
      @sjwjsaw Год назад +2

      make it at least 20 words 😂

    • @tyrellesmith9265
      @tyrellesmith9265 Год назад

      It's so bizarre that WB keeps trying to make this foundation for a cinematic universe by doing the same things over and over again that have already proved to be disasters. Going from Superman to Batman vs Superman and then the Justice League by making bloated barely coherent plot dumps that try to fit fairly complex lore, origins stories, and now multiverses that seem to mostly exist for cameo shots in this movie's case, just seems like a bad idea that has already failed years ago, And yet no lessons are learned.
      The whole Ezra Miller thing plus their plans to already have a new start with James Gunn made this the perfect chance for a tax write off which we know they are not above doing. I don't get the commitment to putting this out in context of all of WB recent business decisions. As you say it has no reason to exist, can't be built upon and was not intended to be a one off story that maybe gets a sequel like Joker. It's a plank in a cinematic universe that they had already killed with a highly controversial star with little fan appeal in 2023.

  • @darachclyde6738
    @darachclyde6738 Год назад +26

    It’s so sad this film did some really good things with the flash powers, making it so that his speed is heavily based on his calorie intake like the comics is a good way to add stakes to the hospital scene and also some unexpected laughs to where an otherwise OP protagonist would of just been nerfed for that scene only.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Год назад

      In the comics the Flash's speed isn't based on his caloric intake anymore. For a movie doing that wouldn't be a bad plot device though.

  • @jamestolbert1856
    @jamestolbert1856 Год назад +3

    I kinda loved this movie and how it mixes the lighthearted tone mixed with grim, dark undertones. I wish we saw more of it