Forza Horizon 4 Xbox Series X/ Series S - A Good Upgrade... But There Are Issues

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  • Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
  • Join Alex Battaglia for a detailed look at the 60fps upgrade for Forza Horizon 4 on Xbox Series X and Series S consoles, stacked up against Xbox One X and (where appropriate) the PC original. Developer Panic Button has handed in a decent upgrade with lots of improvements - but there are issues, including a couple of visual cutbacks that are concerning.
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  • @JDoubleT1
    @JDoubleT1 3 года назад +707

    This guy thinks his menus are laggy on his xbox one x.... should watch it on my OG xbox one 😂

    • @WADAFOK
      @WADAFOK 3 года назад +65

      Bruh it literally runs at like 1 fuckin fps 😭

    • @pmpdaddyt1218
      @pmpdaddyt1218 3 года назад +55

      I just got the Series X after being on OG Xbox
      ..
      Monster Hunter actually opens in under 4 minutes now 🤣🤣🤣

    • @guybrushthreepwood8174
      @guybrushthreepwood8174 3 года назад +23

      Yeah the one x is a massive upgrade from OG, I know because I have both

    • @cruelwraith2games926
      @cruelwraith2games926 3 года назад +2

      I know right I have the OG Xbox one in the Xbox 1X and it difference is completely noticeable Xbox series X it completely different from the Xbox One X

    • @cruelwraith2games926
      @cruelwraith2games926 3 года назад +5

      @Haitian Xu true the PlayStation 4 store is laggy as fuk is always dashboarding you and crashing

  • @jaccopeek
    @jaccopeek 3 года назад +603

    Your next-gen content is a joy to watch. Can’t wait for the AC and CoD analysis.

    • @jackoski__19
      @jackoski__19 3 года назад +19

      @@HiN00bs12 lol

    • @Joaquincastellan
      @Joaquincastellan 3 года назад +3

      Literally no one asked for this video. They have to upload actual next gen stuff.

    • @fradim2099
      @fradim2099 3 года назад +9

      @@HiN00bs12 who??

    • @ReLapse85
      @ReLapse85 3 года назад +1

      @@HiN00bs12 facts

    • @route77productions
      @route77productions 3 года назад +13

      @@HiN00bs12 what?😂😂
      All the tests I've seen have them performing about the same. Besides there will be games where one loads two seconds faster and a slightly higher number in resolution. "Worse" is such a strong word. You make it sound like one runs at 1200p30 and another 4K60

  • @David050298
    @David050298 3 года назад +346

    Playground really should have done this update themselves rather than hiring a third party dev.

    • @Orfevre514
      @Orfevre514 3 года назад +141

      Well they're busy developing Fable and maybe FH5.

    • @cimarcardozo855
      @cimarcardozo855 3 года назад +16

      Me parece que esto pone en evidencia que Playground esta muy ocupado con Fable y FH5, pero viendo la bajada de calidad gráfica en algunas zonas me parece que hay parche inminente o Playground se encargara...

    • @nth842
      @nth842 3 года назад +92

      @@cimarcardozo855 why would you respond in Spanish after reading his comment in English and yes there is solid proof play ground is working on the new fable game and it's a safe assumption they working on horizon 5

    • @canyonblue737-8
      @canyonblue737-8 3 года назад +6

      all the common force feedback peripherals that many use with the game also now have various bugs, some large enough to render them unusable. so much for usb peripherals seamlessly transfering to the new console...

    • @David050298
      @David050298 3 года назад +33

      @@DeadPhoenix86DP I understand Spanish, so it’s fine. Think he just saw my last name. Not a big deal.

  • @Scott190489
    @Scott190489 3 года назад +28

    Dont understand why night shadows and SSAO are disabled on xsx, its not a massive perormance killer. Digital foundry, could you please ask the devs about it. the missing Ssao and night shadows in rsces are very noticable for me when Im playing.

  • @robo_j22
    @robo_j22 3 года назад +210

    That hang up at 6:50 is a rare occurrence based on its 7 servers are 1 server system. You switched from one region to another but the new region I presume had a full lobby of higher ping players and the game pooped itself a little. More server side than game/console side. The servers for Horizon 4 are garbage after all

    • @zeus1117
      @zeus1117 3 года назад +2

      Yes most of the lags are normally due to online or OS activities for the game and not really HW related

    • @creopictures
      @creopictures 3 года назад +2

      Yeah. Great racing game. Awful online services. I have yet to finish any of the online activities, because I inevitably lose connection to the server before completing.

    • @I9IIEIIYIIEIIS
      @I9IIEIIYIIEIIS 3 года назад

      Yeah well don't presume. It even hangs offline.

    • @mccalejk2
      @mccalejk2 3 года назад

      I somehow doubt they were doing their analysis while doing an online game. You can easily play this game entirely offline.

    • @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
      @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe 3 года назад

      I notice a freeze like that on xbox series S when I search for a horizon life session and when it connects you get a temporary freeze.

  • @HighSpeedTV
    @HighSpeedTV 3 года назад +119

    When do we get Valhalla PC vs Xbox Series X vs PS5? Cant wait for that video!! Great work as always!!

    • @dampflokfreund
      @dampflokfreund 3 года назад +9

      Don't forget Series S.

    • @HighSpeedTV
      @HighSpeedTV 3 года назад +1

      @Hannibal B totally agree! I want to know how these systems stack up against each other! Also ive heard AC runs at 60fps which is just amazing! Rtx 3090 cant lock 4k 60 so if these consoles are really pulling that off, it would be quite a feat!

    • @AJ-xv7oh
      @AJ-xv7oh 3 года назад

      It runs like garbage on every device. I'm used to it on PC but it stutters and tears on Xbox. This is the end of video games.

    • @HighSpeedTV
      @HighSpeedTV 3 года назад

      @Gaming With Ryan early word is that it might be optimized for amd platforms

    • @johnsf.1634
      @johnsf.1634 3 года назад +1

      @Gaming With Ryan Its beacuse they have the game on ultra settings and its a very demanding game

  • @CasualGamers
    @CasualGamers 3 года назад +236

    Awesome. Looking forward to more series s and x comparisons, as well as PC settings

    • @Jambon75
      @Jambon75 3 года назад +8

      Compare 260$/460$ consoles (without controller) to a 2000$ Pc. gEnIuS

    • @abdullahayad6923
      @abdullahayad6923 3 года назад +3

      @@Jambon75 In my country the Xbox series X is $650 !!!

    • @SB-xh8xs
      @SB-xh8xs 3 года назад +3

      @@abdullahayad6923 you are luckier than me still. here in turkey its $1000.

    • @swagatamukherjee6155
      @swagatamukherjee6155 3 года назад +10

      @@Jambon75 you are completely missing the point
      The main intention to compare with a pc is to know in which settings they are running and is there any limitations are there

    • @Jambon75
      @Jambon75 3 года назад

      @@SB-xh8xs France > 9000

  • @CroneRaven1810
    @CroneRaven1810 3 года назад +538

    Can't wait for Horizon 5! Hopefully it's in Japan. They also have the 4 seasons and the mountain roads are like the ultimate dual roads ala initial D, tokyo drift :D Also very gorgeous

    • @UmVtCg
      @UmVtCg 3 года назад +17

      I just hope it's in a right driving country. I'm kinda sick of driving on the wrong side of the road unintentionally. So, no definitely not Japan, they already did that one.

    • @hitgo
      @hitgo 3 года назад +25

      That sounds chill man, driving in the country side, seasons like you said with cherry blossoms and fall colors broooo

    • @sean7332
      @sean7332 3 года назад +30

      My main hope is the map is at least 2 or 3 times the size for next gen.. don't see why it can't be , imagine having a massive tokyo style city with all the neon lights and then a huge open environment with mountains 😍

    • @Azizdul
      @Azizdul 3 года назад +8

      I was hoping for forza motorsport to launch this year so that we get a new horizon the year after, but looks like we are in for a long wait.

    • @thesprawl2361
      @thesprawl2361 3 года назад +22

      @@UmVtCg My dream is that the next Horizon is set in Germany/Switzerland.
      You can drive from the black forest straight up into the Swiss alps and those beautiful roads where Hammon crashed the Rimac, and then descend into the valley with the air strip where they drag race hypercars. Lots of amazing driving roads and the autobahn running through half the map.
      ...And the piece de resistance: the public access nurburgring: the nurburgring where we can just drive onto it in online freeplay and race a van against a GT3 RS and thread through all the other players on the track. It's not _quite_ a conventional race-track so it doesn't break Playground's self-imposed rules about not including tracks in their maps and it'd be fucking cool.
      NB: before anyone jumps in to tell me they've already done Europe: I know. I know they're not going to go with this. But it's my dream FH5 location so I get to choose.
      FYI - they haven't done Japan before.

  • @eliteshergio7375
    @eliteshergio7375 3 года назад +131

    I moved from One S to Series X, the change is completely stunning !!

  • @themarauder6108
    @themarauder6108 8 месяцев назад +6

    For anyone who's still wondering, no they haven't fixed the issues mentioned in this video. It got a single update and hasn't been touched since.

    • @fathersunglasses6085
      @fathersunglasses6085 8 месяцев назад

      Damn so this means you either need the PC version or have both a one X and a series X

    • @themarauder6108
      @themarauder6108 8 месяцев назад

      @@fathersunglasses6085 , Series S and X are the inferior versions, neither were updated to fix the issues mentioned in this video.

    • @fathersunglasses6085
      @fathersunglasses6085 8 месяцев назад

      @@themarauder6108 I mean own a series X for other games and a one x or pc for this

  • @richardrocha
    @richardrocha 3 года назад +66

    7:02 You missed a checkpoint. Press Y to rewind.

  • @vincybadman871
    @vincybadman871 3 года назад +284

    Alex buddy, you've really gotta stop saying the full name of the console lol. Just say One X and Series X. Otherwise great analysis.

    • @popopopolo
      @popopopolo 3 года назад +2

      Yes

    • @KizaruB
      @KizaruB 3 года назад +34

      Soon enough, he’s gonna pronounce the trademark symbol

    • @zombiebillcosby
      @zombiebillcosby 3 года назад +13

      I was about to say this. You can literally say
      Series X
      Series S
      One X

    • @ANormalName.
      @ANormalName. 3 года назад +1

      Or XSX

    • @SEMARPE
      @SEMARPE 3 года назад +30

      @@ANormalName. No.

  • @lyconxero457
    @lyconxero457 3 года назад +33

    I love the fact that Digital Foundry has become the ultimate beta testers as they seem to find and point out all these little things which the devs may actually already know about but maybe didn't have time to implement before launching the product. Thankfully we live in an age of digital updates and many little things can be patched and fixed over time. At least the frame rate and resolution are solid right off the bad so it'll still be a joy to play the game.

  • @KizaruB
    @KizaruB 3 года назад +85

    We’ve only had Alex for a couple years but I now couldn’t imagine DF without him

    • @pizzagateisreal
      @pizzagateisreal 3 года назад +4

      Ghey

    • @nico5179
      @nico5179 3 года назад +2

      Of course, xbots always support each other LOL

    • @theinfinity2994
      @theinfinity2994 3 года назад +15

      @@nico5179 Imagine participating in a console war 🤡🤡

    • @GaryMcAnim
      @GaryMcAnim 3 года назад +10

      I'm personally not a fan. I love DF and always watch the videos but it's frustrating that Alex always highlights something so pointless like the 3fps dips that rarely ever happen and are barely noticeable in this video. He does usually go into a much deeper analysis than the other members of the team. But I guess it's all down to personal preference.

    • @theinfinity2994
      @theinfinity2994 3 года назад +2

      @@GaryMcAnim Yeah it’s really personal preference. I like that he goes into detail but I see why some would not.

  • @pranavkolluri
    @pranavkolluri 3 года назад +24

    Oh this explains so much! I was wondering why it looked kinda off as I've mostly played in the quality mode on One X. I really hope they improve it soon

    • @paulerlingheuser8453
      @paulerlingheuser8453 3 года назад +1

      It has better textures then quality mode on the x. And better draw distance.

    • @pranavkolluri
      @pranavkolluri 3 года назад +4

      @@paulerlingheuser8453 yeah but weirdly enough the draw distance on grass feels smaller and for some reason there isn't ambient occlusion?

    • @fnsonicrick
      @fnsonicrick 3 года назад

      Yea I'm still wondering if this has been fixed yet? Quality mode on one x looks better than series x and it shouldn't be this way.

    • @pranavkolluri
      @pranavkolluri 3 года назад

      @@fnsonicrick As far as I can tell it still hasn't. I wonder if there's some limitation with the gen9aware gdk (would be weird but these consoles can definitely include AO)

  • @mechiellouw3315
    @mechiellouw3315 3 года назад +120

    Still waiting for some definitive Series X|S review with Watch Dogs and AC Valhalla tested😏

    • @anthonyclayton8283
      @anthonyclayton8283 3 года назад +19

      I can tell you now valhalla on series x is a screen tearing mess unless you have a vrr tv.

    • @saschakonrad8861
      @saschakonrad8861 3 года назад +6

      And performance comparison between PS5 and XSX for those games. Interesting to see if Devil May Cry was a fluke with respect to XSX performance.

    • @mechiellouw3315
      @mechiellouw3315 3 года назад

      @@anthonyclayton8283 wow okay didn't really expect that.. new hardware I guess! Would like to see how all the new consoles stack up

    • @darthmisogyny3828
      @darthmisogyny3828 3 года назад +2

      @@anthonyclayton8283 noticing it too shit is annoying

    • @Elementox-im1tm
      @Elementox-im1tm 3 года назад +5

      @@anthonyclayton8283 Nice lie. I have no problem here.

  • @lucasmendes731
    @lucasmendes731 3 года назад +57

    AC Valhalla & WD Legion - PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S

    • @65BoneCrusher56
      @65BoneCrusher56 3 года назад +4

      They should a Xbox Series X|S vs PS5 vs PC.

    • @yurimatos1894
      @yurimatos1894 3 года назад

      They said on Twitter that they don't have the games on PS5 yet

    • @Fastwalker27
      @Fastwalker27 3 года назад

      @@Joaquincastellan
      Including AC Valhalla
      That one is quite a looker

    • @vincevirtua
      @vincevirtua 3 года назад

      @@Joaquincastellan did you hear? they're both NEW games

    • @makokenji4350
      @makokenji4350 3 года назад

      @Jeric White
      I can't even take you seriously calling Valhalla shit. You're a clown.

  • @goonerlee
    @goonerlee 3 года назад +119

    Good timing. Love me a bit of Digital Foundry while I eat my dinner.

    • @racky2
      @racky2 3 года назад +4

      Haha I know what you mean! ^^

    • @The_Mad_King_Aerys
      @The_Mad_King_Aerys 3 года назад +12

      Same but when I'm having a shit

    • @supercooldude1352
      @supercooldude1352 3 года назад

      It's 1 for me?

    • @racky2
      @racky2 3 года назад +3

      @@The_Mad_King_Aerys Haha I know what you mean! ^^

    • @hitgo
      @hitgo 3 года назад +1

      its coffee in the morning for me hahaha

  • @cactoidpinata
    @cactoidpinata 3 года назад +32

    Thanks for the analysis! I was playing this last night on my Series X. It is phenomenal. The load time improvements are everything I could have asked for.

    • @chickmagnetwampaone
      @chickmagnetwampaone 3 года назад +6

      Playing Watchdogs on my Series X vs playing it on my One X is like night and day. The game look and run great.

    • @cactoidpinata
      @cactoidpinata 3 года назад

      @@chickmagnetwampaone Awesome! Other games I've been giving a go are:
      AC Valhalla - looks great and plays great, but stutters in cut scenes for some reason
      Shadow of War - loading is hugely improved
      Snake Pass - Silly and fun game, but the load times don't seem improved much
      That's all I've had time for so far. I'm definitely happy with the system.

    • @Tlotoxl
      @Tlotoxl 3 года назад +1

      Loading times are great, on average fast traveling was taking me a maximum of 2 seconds on the series X compared with probably 10 times that on my One X even on a SSD.

  • @Funkb0y
    @Funkb0y 3 года назад +16

    One issue I had, was my old save game crashed everytime I reached the autumn transition when I tried it on my series X. I had to delete my cloud and local saves. That fixed the issue, and luckily I wasn’t very far along anyway.

    • @dustinares7538
      @dustinares7538 3 года назад +1

      I am stuck there right now on Series X on a new install and start. I haven't tried deleting saves yet, but that's a nasty bug.

    • @kden1327
      @kden1327 3 года назад +1

      Load it up on your last gen console or xcloud should transition seasons. Then you can load up on xbsx.

    • @hereforthetech
      @hereforthetech 3 года назад +1

      @@kden1327 that’s actually a pretty good idea. I’ll keep that in mind for next time if something like that comes up again :)

  • @3KPK3
    @3KPK3 3 года назад +32

    Honestly, 99% of gamers won't even notice the issues that you pointed out. 4K 60 with way faster loading times in a gorgeous game like FH4 is spectacular!

    • @johnsf.1634
      @johnsf.1634 3 года назад +2

      I was thinking the same think we can't ask for everything in a backward compatible game

    • @spenny2cents
      @spenny2cents 3 года назад +1

      Lol 99% of gamers on internet notice everything apparently but still don’t know what they are talking about

    • @bravedwarf
      @bravedwarf 3 года назад +9

      Yeah I played this on one x and now on series x and Jesus it’s incredible upgrade. But now after mentions this.... I’m gonna box it up and return it... disgusting 58fps dip this one time... absolutely disgusting.

    • @megapro125
      @megapro125 3 года назад

      @@bravedwarf literally unplayable everyone cancel FH4

  • @chrismlarge1
    @chrismlarge1 3 года назад +8

    I’ve just upgraded from my Megadrive to an Xbox Series X and the difference is amazing!

    • @shifty2755
      @shifty2755 3 года назад

      There's more games on the megadrive.

  • @DJ_Dopamine
    @DJ_Dopamine 3 года назад +23

    You can already get 60fps at 1080p with a mixture of High and Ultra settings using an old R9 380 4GB. Surprised that the Xbox Series S is only able to match that, but without any SSAO.

    • @budgetking2591
      @budgetking2591 3 года назад

      they want to give people a bigger reason to get the series x, so they dont use the series s to its full potential maybe? Or they neglect the Series S because they are so invested in the Series X competing with ps5? i dont know

    • @spenny2cents
      @spenny2cents 3 года назад +7

      Surprised? Really??

    • @spenny2cents
      @spenny2cents 3 года назад

      @@budgetking2591 yes you don’t know, Phil Spencer said he expects the Series S to sell better than Series X... why would they sabotage that?

    • @JaimeIsJaime
      @JaimeIsJaime 3 года назад +4

      @@budgetking2591 What full potencial? series S is what happens when you buy a new pc and pair it with a GT 710

    • @teomaninan5554
      @teomaninan5554 3 года назад +1

      With my old as fuck 965m i can play 35-40 fps ultra at 1080p. I dont understand how xbox s cant handle really

  • @NewYorkMetalShows
    @NewYorkMetalShows 3 года назад +5

    I never played the One X version of FH4. I'm playing it now for the first time on my Series X and noticed a big update after the initial install. Being that I never saw any previous versions of this game, I thought it looked flawless and didn't notice any of the things pointed out here. I feel like after watching this now i'm going to go back into into the game possibly noticing them, lol! But I do understand where the improvements could've been made. I appreciate these kinds of analisis. Shows developers that issues don't go unnoticed no matter how minor they are. The resources are there. Use them to the best of their abilities.

  • @YankeeAllStars
    @YankeeAllStars 3 года назад +37

    I know that most of the upgrades other than increased FPS are probably unnoticeable when I'm driving over 100 mph, but I still find all of this technical analysis fascinating!

    • @blazesmooth5573
      @blazesmooth5573 3 года назад +1

      Actually how faster you drive how much more noticeable it is because due to you driving in fast speeds the frames only render at 24fps so when you say 500feet every 2 seconds your game will be chopping those frames as 500:24~20:2=10 feet per frame while 60fps will get you 500:60~8:2=4 feet per frame. Would you want 10 feet per frame or rather 4 feet per frame?
      And the difference increases exponentially too.

    • @blazesmooth5573
      @blazesmooth5573 3 года назад +1

      I just realized you said other then fps kill me now.

    • @darkzer0455
      @darkzer0455 3 года назад

      @@blazesmooth5573 where did you find this information that fh4 only renders at 24fps when your driving.

    • @blazesmooth5573
      @blazesmooth5573 3 года назад

      @@darkzer0455 I never said it does? I only gave a reference number to compare greater fps.

  • @LeandroCunha_85
    @LeandroCunha_85 3 года назад +12

    Is a great game, but this downgrade on night shadows and SSAO is sad.

  • @randellma0
    @randellma0 3 года назад +30

    I don't think you are "reading" the timestamps correctly. The millisecond counts seem to be counting to 60 but you are reading them as a decimal point. At 4:13 you say 13:40 as "13.4" seconds but it's more like 13.67.

    • @uzeeinc
      @uzeeinc 3 года назад +3

      That's an interesting thing to point out. I've never actually seen milliseconds to be counted up to 60. I wonder if it's just a visual presentation thing on the video overlay here or DF's internal tools actually do count like that.
      Technically, a millisecond is a 1000 of a second so it's always counted to 1000.

    • @megapro125
      @megapro125 3 года назад +1

      @@uzeeinc I think it must be a problem with the tool. A "mm:ss:msms" format just doesn't make sense. The ":" as a seperator is unusual, you would need 4 digits instead of 2 for ms and of course it wouldn't count to 60. It should be "mm:ss.##" with ## being the first two decimals for the seconds.

    • @Simolake
      @Simolake 3 года назад +1

      I noticed the same thing. To the point from @UzEEInc , in the video does show the last two digits counting from 0x to 5x and back to 0x, and it certainly shouldn't be read like a decimal number using the word 'point'.

  • @MakeLifeExtraordinary
    @MakeLifeExtraordinary 3 года назад +38

    Thank you for this. I knew something wasn’t right visually. I just couldn’t pick it out. The shadows, I definitely saw. I didn’t catch the ambient occlusion missing, nor the characters animating at half frame rate. So hopefully they fix these. There is no way the new machine can’t run it at 60 frames per second with these things present... or maybe it’s something with the engine. But if the PC can do it at ultra with a 2080, the series X should be able to do it the same. It just might need more optimization. Let’s hope it was just some sort of glitch or something they missed in translation. Cause it’s funny, because something seemed off to me and I couldn’t place it. Definitely the ambient occlusion would make a huge difference along with the shadows. There is also some sort of lighting glitch and I can’t place what that is. I notice it when I rotate the camera, especially through trees. It seems like there are light flashes. I don’t know what that is. Maybe you guys have a better idea.

    • @damianp5888
      @damianp5888 3 года назад

      I was playing FH4 on 2060 in 4k@Ultra@60FPS :)

    • @viceblast
      @viceblast 3 года назад

      Same here :(

  • @doomguy5256
    @doomguy5256 3 года назад +52

    Forza Horizon 4 is the BEST racing game I've ever played. Can't wait to play it again on Series X.

    • @bp4861
      @bp4861 3 года назад +5

      Worst car sounds ever though

    • @bobby1129
      @bobby1129 3 года назад +2

      Ya dude I agree. Can’t wait for a true next gen forza horizon game

    • @JunkieVirus
      @JunkieVirus 3 года назад

      yeah is a great game, but gran turismo is better. and this is no hate towards xbox. but Forza has some small things that make it a bit less. Sounds from cars, cars don't seem to touch the ground, making handeling a bit weird. but still a cool game I like ti play regularly

    • @tonyorr890
      @tonyorr890 3 года назад +9

      @@JunkieVirus GT hasn’t been better than Forza since the mid 2000s

    • @freddiems
      @freddiems 3 года назад

      I have been playing it for the last two days and is awesome. Specially the loading times.

  • @viceblast
    @viceblast 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for this video. When i was playing on my Series S i noticed that the night didn't look as pretty as in some videos of the One X but i wasn't sure why. Now i can see that the lack of shadows at night was the issue.I really hope that they add those shadows for the Series S :(

  • @panzermeyer9944
    @panzermeyer9944 3 года назад +8

    Some peoples have Seriex X and yet no one tested Ryse Son of Rome.

    • @TheOrange2341
      @TheOrange2341 3 года назад +1

      It would be locked perforce

    • @campkira
      @campkira 3 года назад

      i not a part of free upgrade.. since some xbox one game are not... sleeping dogs also not functional and fallout 4 still not get upgrade..

  • @toutagamon
    @toutagamon 3 года назад +85

    Can you please do AC: Valhalla, Watchdogs Legion and Godfall PC vs Console settings comparison?

    • @dampflokfreund
      @dampflokfreund 3 года назад +6

      Yes im highly interested in that! I wonder what resolution AC Valhalla is running at on the consoles, various sources conflict each other in that lol.
      For Watch Dogs Legion, I did some comparisons and found out the texture quality is set to medium, Headlight shadows appear to be off and shadow quality should be Ultra (on Series X, idk about Series S) due to enabled contact shadows. RT should be below medium as some reflections are missing. I'm sure Alex will find out a lot more cool stuff though.

    • @HighSpeedTV
      @HighSpeedTV 3 года назад

      Yes, this please!

    • @AlexGarcia-qc3cj
      @AlexGarcia-qc3cj 3 года назад +1

      @@dampflokfreund I'm sure they're doing that already but that's gonna take time

    • @bad_robot4842
      @bad_robot4842 3 года назад

      They said they havent got AC yet but will be doing it. Just have to be patient.

    • @jdubdoubleu
      @jdubdoubleu 3 года назад

      Maybe if you're a good boy this year

  • @redsnake9
    @redsnake9 3 года назад +6

    You guys are on fire cranking out these videos, we love it but remember to eat and sleep!

  • @dk06ctr
    @dk06ctr 3 года назад +6

    Well were over a month down the line and the missing effects on series X still havent been fixed no ambient occlusion etc and that's with DF reaching out to the developer I wouldn't mind but theres been two patches since release of series x patch 🤷‍♂️

    • @tarikmahdi8308
      @tarikmahdi8308 3 года назад +4

      Most people aren’t complaining about it. If anything people are praising it. So it may never get fixed which is a shame. I literally stopped playing after updating from the one x

    • @monarchu
      @monarchu 3 года назад

      Hey man, everything has been added back in, and the headlight shadows are back too. Dont worry

    • @tarikmahdi8308
      @tarikmahdi8308 3 года назад

      @@monarchu I hope this is true. Will be redownloading to verify. What I care most about is SSAO.

    • @tarikmahdi8308
      @tarikmahdi8308 3 года назад +2

      @@monarchu wasted my time redownloading over your false information.

    • @dk06ctr
      @dk06ctr 3 года назад +1

      @@monarchu yeah I last had a update a week ago and nothing has been added back in that I can see SSAO is still missing which is the biggest thing for me so don't know why you've posted false information

  • @Wishmastoras
    @Wishmastoras 3 года назад +1

    Last time I played it was on Xbox One S until yesterday on my new Series X. It's a different game, 4K/60 and with this beautiful setting is jaw-dropping.

    • @downwithputinsaveukraine1313
      @downwithputinsaveukraine1313 3 года назад

      ForzaM 7 gets an auto hardware upscale and looks really good. It's a shame it's now abandonware and has had no updates in over 18 months.

  • @TTibus
    @TTibus 3 года назад +10

    so you need to zoom 400% to see the resolution differente, I guess I will go with the Series S.

  • @nodowt
    @nodowt 3 года назад +21

    Super disappointing to hear it's basically performance mode in 4k... Rather than quality mode at 60fps...

    • @tarikmahdi8308
      @tarikmahdi8308 3 года назад +1

      I totally agree. The game sucks now for me. Graphics are a huge part of the magic of this game

    • @paulerlingheuser8453
      @paulerlingheuser8453 3 года назад

      Nah. It's pretty much quality mode. 4 k textures and draw distances and that's all you really need

    • @nodowt
      @nodowt 3 года назад

      @@paulerlingheuser8453 except for the crappy shadows & ambient occlusion missing...

    • @downwithputinsaveukraine1313
      @downwithputinsaveukraine1313 3 года назад +1

      @@nodowt That's not something that occurs often. It's a damn one-off.

    • @MadX8
      @MadX8 3 года назад

      @@nodowt Pretty sure you would have never noticed that without a DF video with 400% zoom here and there... I love DF but sometimes it's a brainwashing for such a slight difference. Also, stop talking like having 60fps instead of 30 is nothing, it's everything

  • @TheGodji80
    @TheGodji80 3 года назад +4

    Thanks DF, finally a relevant comparison about FH4 :). I had the chance to receive my Series X on 10th nov (France), but when I launched Forza Horizon 4 (which I used to plays dozens of hrs on One X quality mode), something appeared weird to me eyes, as if it was more "flat" visually... Here's the clear explanation . This new gen is deceptive, seems to already show its limitations on old gen games upgrades: that kind of graphic concession to allow 60 fps is too bad. And, in the case of Gears 5 for example, the visual were improved as it was already running at 60 on One X...

    • @tomaszsliwowski6932
      @tomaszsliwowski6932 3 года назад +1

      ONE X still kickin ass. I Think it will be worse in trully next gen games like it was after Xbox One premiere. Crossgen games look very good, had stable FPS (like Assassins Creed Black flag), but when AC Unity came out, XONE and PS4 cant handle new engine. Sry for my eng.

    • @downwithputinsaveukraine1313
      @downwithputinsaveukraine1313 3 года назад

      I don't notice that at all.

    • @MadX8
      @MadX8 3 года назад

      It has nothing do to with hardware limitations here. It's just a port and as a port, it relies on devs skills to exploit the potential of the hardware. Since Playground didn't work on those ports directly, i guess it's normal to see a difference. Just remember that it's just a port, a simple optimisation. They didn't redo the whole game for the Series S/X. There is no point in judging the console based on those ports. For example, Forza Horizon 3 is running at 30fps on Series X/S, not because the console can't handle it, but because the game received no optimisation. Previous gen games optimised for next-gen console will always depend of devs skills. The Series X is capable of better than that, same for the Series S.

  • @codymadison9993
    @codymadison9993 2 года назад +2

    “The quadrupling of pixels is very obvious.”
    Me on my phone: “I’ll just take your word for that, friend.”

  • @jotawayhijo
    @jotawayhijo 3 года назад +20

    Even an RX5700XT, which is inferior to the XSX gpu level, is able to run FH4 at perfectly solid 4K60fps on ultra settings. My theory here is that the game is still running in backwards compatibility mode, so they cant still make use of RDNA2 IPC improvements, i think that it's literally emulating GCN behaviour. The game shouldn't be announced as an X|S optimized in this state.

    • @thenoobperspective7588
      @thenoobperspective7588 3 года назад +2

      My theory here is they couldn’t optimize the game for something the Series S can’t do and it’s holding back the Series X as a result

    • @jotawayhijo
      @jotawayhijo 3 года назад +3

      @@thenoobperspective7588That's not right, the game have sligh fps drops on race starting scenes, which means that it's also hitting performance limitations on XSX, this game is still running in BC mode, just with a new settings tweak.

    • @thenoobperspective7588
      @thenoobperspective7588 3 года назад

      @@jotawayhijo That’s probably due to the high polygon close ups of the cars running at Native 4K. It certainly isn’t well optimized, but it’s not running in “BC mode”, this is a native port.

  • @65BoneCrusher56
    @65BoneCrusher56 3 года назад +35

    Damn, one of the features i love in Quality Mode on the X1X is the car light shadow, i really hope Panic Button fix it on the XSX in races, same for SSAO, otherwise i'll stick to my PC when playing FH4, when i get XSX.

    • @stodgycaesar6164
      @stodgycaesar6164 3 года назад +12

      So by your logic:
      Headlight shadows during a race > 60fps & improved texture filtering Wtf????
      Edit: THEY MEANT PC APPARENTLY ^^^

    • @xAKIMBOCURLYx
      @xAKIMBOCURLYx 3 года назад +8

      hang on... you'll play in 30fps, with lower res textures, double the load times... for some ambient occlusion and headlight shadows in races?

    • @x-coin6740
      @x-coin6740 3 года назад +2

      Same ill stick to my pc version with everything on at 60fps lol

    • @65BoneCrusher56
      @65BoneCrusher56 3 года назад

      @@xAKIMBOCURLYx Oh I meant PC, sorry for the confusion.

    • @65BoneCrusher56
      @65BoneCrusher56 3 года назад

      @@stodgycaesar6164 One of the features i love to do in FH4 is to take some really beautiful shots, so yeah I prefer the first option in that case. But what I meant to say is PC not X1X, my apoligies.

  • @Gamekod3
    @Gamekod3 3 года назад +1

    So one of the weirder details is the shadow inconsistency in the Series X version. For almost every single race the dynamic shadows are turned off...except I noticed in the stunt events it's fully active. This incurred no performance hits either so my feeling is this was kept as is on the one x because of an oversight. I would hope they patch it back in as it adds a ton to when you are driving around the world at night. The atmosphere is excellent.

  • @MostlyPennyCat
    @MostlyPennyCat 3 года назад +1

    XVA is not just tractor compression.
    It's using a virtual 100gb ram disk whether textures are loaded in on a per slice per frame basis

  • @davidupton73
    @davidupton73 3 года назад +41

    The Microsoft console naming department needs firing.

    • @John-Spartan
      @John-Spartan 3 года назад

      Oh, so changing a number in PS4 to PS5 is a genius move?

    • @elogamer
      @elogamer 3 года назад

      @@John-Spartan "B-but Sony!"

    • @davidupton73
      @davidupton73 3 года назад +2

      @@John-Spartan I think we both know it is.

    • @John-Spartan
      @John-Spartan 3 года назад

      @@davidupton73 I really hope you are joking. Nobody can be this dumb.

  • @quentinchristensen3793
    @quentinchristensen3793 3 года назад +18

    You know there is an overwhelming amount of work when Alex switch to console coverage ! No RT even !

    • @marcuslightbody6933
      @marcuslightbody6933 3 года назад

      Not really effective to just add rt to a game that wasnt designed useing the system architecture or designed for use of RT
      You would end up with either really shit at that is lower resolution than just screen space
      Or the performance would be terrible
      There are alot of Dev tools and features deigned to alleviate stress from RT use however this game was not designed with those in might
      Just look at devil may cry next gen version as evidence of this
      The RT is complete garbage and the framrates are all over the place

    • @kebbinator
      @kebbinator 3 года назад +3

      Marcus Lightbody They just mean that Alex likes RT. It’s unusual for Alex to cover a console game at all, let alone one without RT.

    • @marcuslightbody6933
      @marcuslightbody6933 3 года назад +1

      @@kebbinator ahhh ok hahah

    • @arbiter5100
      @arbiter5100 3 года назад +1

      @@marcuslightbody6933 I also thought the ray tracing in DMC 5 looked pretty bad. It just looks like Capcom littered the screen with puddles but I noticed there aren’t even reflections on some of them.

  • @zofrea1
    @zofrea1 3 года назад +2

    The classic DF Music returns! I swear I haven't heard that opening track since 2013

  • @TerryMartinART
    @TerryMartinART 3 года назад +1

    Math seems easy to me, 4x the resolution but only 2x the GPU as Xbox one X. If I saw that correctly, Xbox one X performance mode was 1080p 60. Some concessions had to be made.

  • @DesuVR
    @DesuVR 3 года назад +5

    You can REALLY tell when you're playing online with an Xbox player. Waiting for them to load is painfully long.

    • @cornbread7095
      @cornbread7095 3 года назад +2

      Xbox One player, Xbox Series player will most certainly load in before you

  • @leospeedleo
    @leospeedleo 3 года назад +3

    6:30
    The "one off drop" happened to me multiple times. I found that it might have something to do with server connection as it only happened when I was on a full server and a few minutes away from a Forzathon event but happened three times or so since playing on release day

  • @Arrozconchopsticks
    @Arrozconchopsticks Год назад +1

    Really nice to play on Series X to this day.

  • @RobbyHuang
    @RobbyHuang 3 года назад +1

    If you're a plebe like me and don't have a series x yet, getting an external ssd for your one x will improve load times substantially... Just a bit of solace for those still on the old generation.

  • @alxactly
    @alxactly 3 года назад +5

    This is really weird and 100% the evidence of lazy optimising/porting done by the third party development studio.
    My pc (ryzen 1600x, gtx1070ti) does all these settings ultra, 144fps on 1080p. I'm so confident that Xbox series x should get these options with some optimization at least.

    • @nightdriver7216
      @nightdriver7216 3 года назад +2

      4K is on a whole different level to 1080p.

    • @theadhi3216
      @theadhi3216 3 года назад

      They didn’t opt for a 1080p mode. They likely could’ve performance like that. There’s no real reason to think this was a lazy pity.

    • @GoYourOwnWay86
      @GoYourOwnWay86 3 года назад

      @@nightdriver7216 it may be 4K but it’s at lower graphical settings. Give me 1080p @ 100fps with all settings on ultra as opposed to 4k @ 60fps with settings on high and some turned off...

    • @nightdriver7216
      @nightdriver7216 3 года назад

      @@GoYourOwnWay86 1080p is too little for me. Forza Horizon 4 on 1080p mode is blurry and looks as if I needed glasses to see further. It's an outdated resolution on TVs and only kept afloat by PC gamers due to high price of new panels and durability of the old screens.

  • @revelator3665
    @revelator3665 3 года назад +40

    too early, waiting some patches for the patches.

    • @21swords76
      @21swords76 3 года назад +7

      Yes i also wait for the patches for my patches.

    • @aryanwasntmighty1798
      @aryanwasntmighty1798 3 года назад

      Your English needs to be patched
      (Not talking about u 21 Swords)

  • @Robert_Prather
    @Robert_Prather 3 года назад +1

    Now that I have my Series X.. I have to say.. the 60fps does feel great.. but I wondered why I wasn't impressed with the graphics. This clarifies it. Thanks, Alex! Hopefully it'll get patched soon to take full advantage. Can we have ray tracing too please?

  • @xxxmadminkxxx-6083
    @xxxmadminkxxx-6083 3 года назад +2

    feels good to be PC gamer after 7 years.

  • @hitgo
    @hitgo 3 года назад +9

    I gotta get me that ssd nvme for my pc, that "need to restart game" after fiddling around the settings is killing me hahaha.

    • @PookaBot
      @PookaBot 3 года назад +4

      What's agonizing is that this game has those idiotic unskippable intro logos... so no matter how fast your drive is, you still have to wait for that bull**** to play x_x

    • @hitgo
      @hitgo 3 года назад +1

      @@PookaBot Aahhh flashbacks to max payne 3 hahaha, they should just ad those logos as billboards/signs in game if they want us to see those, do it in-game.

  • @sirramsay1034
    @sirramsay1034 3 года назад +5

    Great video, as always! I'm very impatient to see some comparisons between PS5 and Xbox Series X for multiplatform games like Assassin's Creed: Valhalla! :D

  • @KizaruB
    @KizaruB 3 года назад +11

    30fps animations in a 60fps game can be very distracting. I remember it sticking out in Halo 5 and it looked terrible.

    • @paulj5336
      @paulj5336 3 года назад

      Not played Halo 5. Curious to know what was it in that game?

    • @JaimeIsJaime
      @JaimeIsJaime 3 года назад

      @@DeadPhoenix86DP It HAS 60fps animations in PC.

    • @JaimeIsJaime
      @JaimeIsJaime 3 года назад

      @@DeadPhoenix86DP I did. Nothing has changed

  • @michaelsilva6989
    @michaelsilva6989 3 года назад +16

    Who made the port was an third party studio... hope they fix it, really lazy port.

    • @cimarcardozo855
      @cimarcardozo855 3 года назад +13

      Yep
      That put in evidence that Playground is very bussy with Fable and the next Horizon....
      Hope that Panic Button fix the game, they are putting Playground's work in shame!

    • @tommaso8517
      @tommaso8517 3 года назад +1

      @Michael Silva I love your photo xD

    • @arbiter5100
      @arbiter5100 3 года назад

      I’m honestly surprised the port is lacking in some aspects because Panic Button are MASTERS when it comes to porting games to the Nintendo Switch.

  • @jarde1989
    @jarde1989 3 года назад +39

    I’m in love with the Xbox Series consoles and I don’t even have one yet 😭

  • @dns4053
    @dns4053 3 года назад +7

    I can't help but think digital foundry is downplaying how the game looks on series x. Either that or my eyes are seeing something different than what they are seeing.

    • @cimarcardozo855
      @cimarcardozo855 3 года назад +4

      SONY MONEY....

    • @denismajor
      @denismajor 3 года назад +1

      Same here

    • @djg3906
      @djg3906 3 года назад +6

      I think I will stick with my One X. Theres so many exclusives worth getting on PS5 I plan to make the jump to PS5. On the One X there's literally this and Gears of War. Gears of War did a superb job of 4K dynamic and I believe it managed 60fps too. So if I can get Gears 6 4K 60fps and HDR on the One X when it comes out I'm happy to stick with that and save £450 $499. Its not worth it to buy a new console for one game or maybe 2 with Ray Tracing. Il get the PS5 for third party games and exclusives and maybe PSVR 2 if it happens. I dont see the need in anybody with a One X to upgrade if you buy a PS5 unless your a hard-core Xbox gamer. By the way I'm not knocking the Xbox Series X it looks a beast but in perspective I couldn't justify the cost against my One X

    • @cimarcardozo855
      @cimarcardozo855 3 года назад +1

      @@djg3906 and who asked?

    • @cimarcardozo855
      @cimarcardozo855 3 года назад +1

      @@jatnierdorta you have the same energy with the statement of Jim Ryan? 3 years of support and games for the PS4.
      Remember: HAVE THE SAME ENERGY

  • @ConsolVidsDE
    @ConsolVidsDE 3 года назад +1

    For me, this is further proof of the senseless push for native 4k resolution. I prefer more details over resolution.

    • @GoYourOwnWay86
      @GoYourOwnWay86 3 года назад

      Yes definitely. Everybody is going crazy that it’s 4k @ 60fps... what they don’t realize is it’s on medium-high settings with some even turned off!
      Give me 1080p ultra maxed out settings 100fps anyday.

  • @cmontes7961
    @cmontes7961 2 года назад +2

    The load times kill this game. SSD is a game changer.

  • @raahl71
    @raahl71 3 года назад +30

    Can you do a No Mans Sky analysis on Series X? I installed the update, and have to say it still suffers from really bad pop in.

    • @mitchellp7739
      @mitchellp7739 3 года назад +26

      That game will always suffer from pop in no matter how good your rig is. That’s just the way it’s procedural generation works

    • @hiwasgeht7945
      @hiwasgeht7945 3 года назад +3

      Its because of the slow SSD from the SX. On PS5 pop ups dont exist.

    • @brancolt_
      @brancolt_ 3 года назад +42

      @@hiwasgeht7945 uh-huh

    • @karllafaille6362
      @karllafaille6362 3 года назад +1

      @@brancolt_ lol

    • @danielhoward8742
      @danielhoward8742 3 года назад +13

      @@hiwasgeht7945 yours brick yet bruh?

  • @MegaLPlover
    @MegaLPlover 3 года назад +3

    I'm just impressed by how he was able to constantly say the names of each xbox without messing up

    • @ajaakola2
      @ajaakola2 3 года назад

      he is a pc gamer :)))) intel pls stop...

  • @THU31
    @THU31 3 года назад +1

    Hopefully they will fix those visual settings. It really makes no sense for the quality to be worse than on the One X.

  • @jackymoved
    @jackymoved 3 года назад +4

    One could only imagine how Driveclub looks in 4k 60fps.

    • @thenoobperspective7588
      @thenoobperspective7588 3 года назад +1

      Holy crap dude that game was so ahead of it’s time. I fired it up recently and even at 1080p it dunks on the majority of racing games today. A 4K60fps re-release would look incredible

    • @nightdriver7216
      @nightdriver7216 3 года назад +1

      Graphically overrated...

    • @thenoobperspective7588
      @thenoobperspective7588 3 года назад

      @@nightdriver7216 Forza didn’t even match its level of fidelity until Horizon 3 years later, so I think not.

    • @nightdriver7216
      @nightdriver7216 3 года назад

      @@0uttaS1TE What usually works in this case is complaining. However, the Forza Horizon fan is usually satisfied with too little, because "lulz free cars" and "virtually unplayable" meme when people report bugs/inaccuracies in cars. It's frustrating to be a fan of the game and notice that if you look closely it does fail to live up to its huge potential.

  • @IzzyKilgore
    @IzzyKilgore 3 года назад +12

    Love DF as a news source for all games. But sometimes ya'll reach for straws on these things. No body is going to notice that 400% zoom of a distance quality or the frame dropping from 60 to 58 for a mere second.

    • @earthwormjim91
      @earthwormjim91 Год назад

      Bro this is literally there one job to point those things out

  • @cmdrflint9115
    @cmdrflint9115 3 года назад +16

    Hmm, I'm sure they'll patch it, sounds like they started with the old oneX 60fps version as a base.

    • @joechinchar9833
      @joechinchar9833 3 года назад +1

      Yup. Basically all the issues that the series x version has can be blamed on playground games moreso that the Xbox itself. Would be interesting to see 120 fps 1080p, but I'm not sure if it's possible.

    • @downwithputinsaveukraine1313
      @downwithputinsaveukraine1313 3 года назад

      @@joechinchar9833 If your TV can take it, this system'll do it.

  • @XDLugia
    @XDLugia 3 года назад +1

    This is crazy! Did we just witness the first ever Forza framerate drop? Forza has ALWAYS had locked framerates on console, whether it's 30 in Horizon or 60 in Motorsport (or Horizon 4 on One X).
    I know that Panic Button made the Series X|S port and not Playground/Turn 10, but it still really baffles me.

  • @jamescartwright4037
    @jamescartwright4037 3 года назад +1

    Hopefully they can improve a few of these issues. Seems they've just used the 60FPS from the One X and then ported that over while upping some settings.

  • @iliet5120
    @iliet5120 3 года назад +4

    I would really like to see Japan, Africa and Argentina in next Horizon games.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 3 года назад

      the team had limited ablity to made place... they still made more for 4.. so this going to be awhile.. at least free upgrade for it so i was happy..

  • @njdevil6629
    @njdevil6629 3 года назад +6

    People need to understand how important VRR is going to be this generation.
    Upgrade your TVs, or get a really solid monitor early next year. Frame tearing and drops will be expected the higher our FPS targets get to.

    • @popopopolo
      @popopopolo 3 года назад

      Is the lg nanocell good

    • @manakmishra
      @manakmishra 3 года назад

      I still don't know what it is

    • @ThePoisonDwarf1
      @ThePoisonDwarf1 3 года назад

      @@manakmishra Variable Refresh Rate

  • @abobaabobowich6215
    @abobaabobowich6215 3 года назад +1

    Hopefully every graphic problem will be fixed shortly...

  • @cyphaborg6598
    @cyphaborg6598 3 года назад +1

    That Series S is waiting for me to be picked up at a post office but having an Xbox One X I figured it would overall still perform a tad better with 60fps and then obviously having 1440p.
    That's not the case it performs the same on 1080p.. :S yeah I'm gonna send that shit back.

  • @KizaruB
    @KizaruB 3 года назад +6

    That ForzaTech engine is so cool. Wish more engines were that optimized.

  • @Luke-ig1xz
    @Luke-ig1xz 3 года назад +55

    I currently can't get my hands on a Series X due to it being sold out everywhere so what am I doing? Torturing myself with videos like these 🙃

    • @willchongwei
      @willchongwei 3 года назад +2

      I drove to the other side of my city (Perth Australia) to give a dude $1300 to buy the series X. Goodbye savings

    • @duhduhduh582
      @duhduhduh582 3 года назад +1

      @@willchongwei I did tht too payed too high so I could get it right now! lol couldn’t wait till next year .

    • @CallumSk8er
      @CallumSk8er 3 года назад +4

      @@willchongwei if you think getting it a couple of months earlier is worth AU$550 then thats on you lol but damn!

    • @rotaryperfection
      @rotaryperfection 3 года назад +1

      Imagine getting yours the day it releases and then jumping on a plane over seas for 2 weeks the very next day? That's my good and bad situation right now. 😀😡

    • @namelesshunter4714
      @namelesshunter4714 3 года назад

      come to asia coz no one buy xbox here every one prefer ps5.

  • @ioannisdenton
    @ioannisdenton 3 года назад

    This is why i love alex. He is honest and doesnt make favors to xbox. He is not sugarcoating xbox like many journalists outside DF do to sony constantly.

  • @andreabeccarisi1126
    @andreabeccarisi1126 3 года назад +1

    44 comments within the first 3 minutes? These guys are impossibly popular! Well done!

  • @bimbo896
    @bimbo896 3 года назад +15

    It's time for DF to add "most common pc settings" and not just "ultra 5000$ pc settings", especially now when the new consoles are out, makes way more sense.

    • @nadirjofas3140
      @nadirjofas3140 3 года назад +1

      nah

    • @FullNietzsche
      @FullNietzsche 3 года назад +5

      This game runs on max settings easily on a modest PC, it's very light on resources which makes the compromises for the Series X version even more puzzling. Unless the Series X just isn't as powerful as Microsoft told us.

    • @spenny2cents
      @spenny2cents 3 года назад +5

      This game runs 4K 80fps fully maxed out on my 2080S ... but I thought Series X was equivalent to 2080ti??

    • @bloohook
      @bloohook 3 года назад

      @@spenny2cents Not at all. The XSX is barely touching a 2080 Super in terms of TFlops

    • @Ovan61
      @Ovan61 3 года назад

      @@FullNietzsche I think it's cross gen support that's been holding both current generation systems back. I think games are developed for the base Xbox One and scaled up for the other consoles. I think Digital Foundry did a video where they stated that in a backwards compatible game that the Series S fps were locked to 30 fps and had no ray tracing even thought it is capable of higher fps and ray tracing is because it was running the base Xbox one version. I think Series S needs to become the new base system since it's architecture, hardware and features matches the Series X which will make upscaling easy, Microsoft could've went cheaper with the Series S CPU, but needed it for scalability, so it wouldn't have to make visual and performance sacrifices such as they're doing with developing cross gen with the base Xbox One as their base developers can only make minor visual and performance scaling up for the new consoles with a set/limited amount of time given before the launch of their game.
      In two to three years when Microsoft releases their Series Pro and the new base console becomes the Series S after they end cross gen support, then games developers won't be hold back by any limitations and be developing games utilizing all the Series consoles features that the base Xbox One lacks.

  • @KaiSchSp
    @KaiSchSp 3 года назад +4

    Man this game looks great. I played in Performance mode on the One X. 4K and the higher render distance just add so much to the experience.
    I am in awe, feels amazing to play.

  • @leeaxon01
    @leeaxon01 3 года назад +1

    Dev Teams must shit themselves when they see their game on your channel being reviewed by Sherlock Holmes.

  • @gregmathews83
    @gregmathews83 3 года назад +1

    Great video and the game looks amazing (as always!). Maybe picking on the driver updating at 30fps vs the game at 60fps and highlighting that as an issue was maybe nitpicking just a little too far! The amount of time you spend in a car where the driver is even visible is pretty minimal (was for me at least!), and I'd challenge anyone not looking for flaws to spot that while concentrating on a race! I guess DF's job is to look for these 'flaws' though I guess!

  • @luiscantu4968
    @luiscantu4968 3 года назад +5

    Great video. FH4 looks stunning no matter what yhe review indicates though. I really like what IGN is doing now with their analysis of video games as DF does. However, what IGN is doing is one step forward to DF, is that they actually include an interview from the developer regarding the decision taken towards what was to be included or not on upgrading a game. That way, we as gamers have a better understanding on whether a patch ia expected to improve on the issues or not.

  • @yeahimageek6090
    @yeahimageek6090 3 года назад +5

    This man is an absolute WIZARD when it comes to analysing gameplay. Wow! Blows my mind what he notices. Legend!

  • @Mr.G.Williams
    @Mr.G.Williams 3 года назад +2

    Good work. I'm sure Playground will be able to push this engine to include some of the previously present eye candy.

  • @footlongfabo
    @footlongfabo 3 года назад +1

    Lol nice pop-in with the grass at @0:41 😂 what a joke

  • @ekaaaaaans
    @ekaaaaaans 3 года назад +3

    They had one job. Get One X quality mode running at 60fps. If they couldn't make that happen in first party, something is VERY wrong with Series X.

  • @ThibautMahringer
    @ThibautMahringer 3 года назад +6

    Can't wait to receive my Series X tomorrow.

  • @laurensHD
    @laurensHD 3 года назад +2

    Awesome analysis. I feel like this upgrade was rushed to match the Series X|S releases. Hopefully we get more patches and fixes soon!

    • @spenny2cents
      @spenny2cents 3 года назад

      You mean the Series X/S was rushed?

    • @laurensHD
      @laurensHD 3 года назад +2

      @@spenny2cents no, I mean the optimization patch was rushed.

  • @BagheeraRaceGamer
    @BagheeraRaceGamer 3 года назад +1

    So disaponting to see the headlight cast shadows NOT showing... matter of fact I expected those kind of effects to be real time hardware ray trayced!

  • @LouSassol69er
    @LouSassol69er 3 года назад +4

    I'd imagine the concessions aren't concessions and more a "we didn't have enough time to implement before getting the patch ready for launch day".

  • @armandomendoza9878
    @armandomendoza9878 3 года назад +3

    We need a COD BLACK OPS COLD WAR comparison between Xbox Series X and PS5

    • @samcooke343
      @samcooke343 3 года назад

      @@Joaquincastellan Not instead of. The Series X is already out so we're getting a few Xbox ports first. No doubt we'll get PS5 comparisons and ports once that's out too.

  • @Marcelxy
    @Marcelxy 3 года назад

    In winter, what i found out is, the snow looks a bit too shiny in some cases on my Series S compared to the One X version. Best to see on the stones from the Windmill.

  • @ScrapKing73
    @ScrapKing73 3 года назад

    Frame rate drops occasionally as low as 57 FPS on Series S? We would have thought we'd died and gone to heaven to have problems like that last-gen with this level of fidelity! Amazing for such an inexpensive console. Truly exceeding my expectations. Not for most hardcore gamers, but truly a good option for a second console in another room when the main console is in use.

  • @KizaruB
    @KizaruB 3 года назад +22

    Starting off the generation with caveats has me concerned. To be fair, the cross gen period is always shaky.

    • @vxvxcvxcvcvxc
      @vxvxcvxcvcvxc 3 года назад +5

      Yea. We won't see unreal engine 5 demo kind of graphics any time soon. Same goes for a DLSS-like upsampling.

    • @9UWmember
      @9UWmember 3 года назад +4

      Yeah, I was expecting more. But I do think a lot of developers are on the ropes as no other generational transition has taken place during a time on global pandemic. I do feel like these first batch of patches do not really tell the whole story. Time will tell.

    • @instantstupor
      @instantstupor 3 года назад +1

      It's not just that there are caveats, but that the Series S appears to be worse off than the X1X. 1080p with worse textures, and this is an in-house developed last gen title simply getting prettied up for the new gen. That's fairly concerning.

    • @navpreetsingh8156
      @navpreetsingh8156 3 года назад

      you must be new to console releases

    • @route77productions
      @route77productions 3 года назад

      @@instantstupor Ray Tracing really hurt the Series S version of the game. It should be an optional mode for that console. In really curious to see which console performs better running this game so I can buy it for my PS5 or Series X.

  • @harryscottelliott8970
    @harryscottelliott8970 3 года назад +4

    Gamers are waaaaay too fussy with graphics. RT is over rated & 4K is over rated.

    • @gomilopez1
      @gomilopez1 3 года назад

      You need to experience it to really enjoy it, trust me, it is not overrated, it is fricken glorious

    • @Nocturnal02
      @Nocturnal02 3 года назад +2

      Native 4K and RT is overrated? It's a whole different experience.

    • @alenko4763
      @alenko4763 3 года назад +1

      Your mom is over rated, don’t say anything if you haven’t played on a proper 4k oled tv. Which I know you haven’t otherwise you wouldn’t be here talking shit

    • @GoYourOwnWay86
      @GoYourOwnWay86 3 года назад

      @@alenko4763 4K with lowered graphical settings!? Xbox series X is tricking its customers. I’d rather play 1080P @ 100fps with ultra settings than 4k @ 60 fps with lowered graphics and some even turned off!!

  • @PSS521
    @PSS521 3 года назад +2

    let's face it, xbox series X is better than most gaming PC's out there in the wild.

  • @92juanreus
    @92juanreus 3 года назад +1

    Interesting, it's like they took the performance mode, bumped the resolution up and some settings but they forgot others? One would think the series X has the power to run a mild AO sample at least.

  • @86themadhatter27
    @86themadhatter27 3 года назад +12

    The one thing i've noticed with having Horizon 4 on an SSD on my PC is when i play multiplayer, sure i load fast but i still have to wait for people with XBOX One's to load in lol

    • @denim3367
      @denim3367 3 года назад

      That is rather maddening.