$55 APU vs 11 year old flagship graphics card: Who wins?
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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How well do flagship graphics cards age? I compare the Nvidia GTX 285, which was the most powerful single GPU graphics card of its time, against the Vega 3 integrated graphics of one of the cheapest CPUs available today. Let's see who wins in a fight, a modern $55 APU or a 12-year-old flagship graphics card?
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Dawid: So the Athlon 200GE won.
Me with my Athlon 200GE setup: You hear that, little buddy?
xd
What are the specs aside from the 200GE?
Wait thats fun, seeing my own comment from back then! Haha, just got this video in recommend and cant remember it anyway. Was reading comments during ad time and saw my own here lol
Athlon 200 God Edition
@@SuchFlare There are no God edition
03:55 3000mhz ram is not really fast for an APU
Me: *kicks 2400 mhz ram under the carpet* Yeah man, it sure is slow
Haha!!
@@DawidDoesTechStuff XD yeah, it's true, I'm running my 2200g with an 8gb 2400mhz and an 8gb 2666 mhz ram sticks
wait your ram goes at 2400mhz mine goes at 1400mhz
@@ErenYeager-ub1zw i don't even have ram 😶😂
Yeah bro 2400 is pretty slow
*Kicks 1600mhz under refrigerator*
"The rear I/O from the Middle Ages..." _shields my monitor so it can't hear you_ *Never talk to me or my son again.*
😂
You're not the only one...
I've got a 16:10 27 inch LG from 10+ years ago and it lacks HDMI also , but my 1080p 27 inch monitor that sits nex to it aint better compared to it, and IT HAS hdmi (both IPS monitors)
My 1440p 27" IPS monitor only does DVI-D. And it's holdig up really well on a modern system. Only thing really lacking, is high and variable refresh rates. Which is what my 8 year newer, far inferior-for-color and angle, 1440p 144hz VA monitor is for.
the replies to these comments are literally just people flexing
@@JesseMitra2003 - Yup, here with my trusty SyncMaster 932nw (2007), An oldschool 16by10 classic. It's better than any later VGA Samsung-released monitor 'til dis day or any other brand anyone can name.
And NO @Josh. People right here is not flexing by any means. It's just nostalgia. It may be too that we are recognizing no newer display panel technologies is necessary better than older manufacturing processes. You may probably be too young or careless (when buying) to understand us. As simple as that.
11 years later RTX 2080TI Flagship Card Vs 55$ Latest APU😂
Haha!! Can't wait for that one. 😅
Thats kind of weird to think of
Stupid post. Reported.
FZ Boyz bruh
That'll be pretty great! I mean it'll be great running most games at 4K medium settings on a $55 APU 11 years from now! Or you could run most games at Max settings at like 1800p!
Whatever the outcome, the 12 year old card looks cool..
Ew gah no
@@HoloScope Err yeah it does.
It is a pretty great looking GPU. :D
@@HuntersMoon78 AHHHH RUN FOR YA LIVES. ITS A BLOWERRRRR AHHHHHH
I still use my gtx275, just has a great look about it
Watching too much Linus Tech Tips makes me react everytime someone says "segue".
I was scrambling for my mouse to fast forward 60 seconds
@@MasterVertex just spam the skip function
Watching too much(?) LTT made me finally realize I had the pronunciation of segue all wrong… English is *SUCH* a weird language.
Linus, help Dawid get his subs up!!
I saw this comment just as dawid said "smooth segue"
The GTX 285 released in January of 2009, so really the tittle should say "$55 APU vs 11 year old flagship graphics card: Who wins?".
Haha! Damn. XD
The title is just future proofed for 2021
@@karlkukk7080 lol
What? Thats literally the name
What was the title before he edited it? Thank you
If HL2 stuttered, there’s something wrong with this test setup.
Yeah a Pentium 4 with a 6600gt gets smooth frame rates in Half Life 2, something is terribly wrong with this benchmark.
Like he said, drivers.
@@apachelives half life 2 isn't the same game it was in 2004, it now runs on a very different version of source
@@apachelives Half Life 2 (the current version, not the one from Pentium 4 days) even runs on older Intel Atom APUs without any issues and I'm not talking lowest settings, on the contrary.
Most probably the problem is the SO and bad drivers
"That's a pretty smooth segway..." AAAAAH LINUS!!!!
It would have been better if it was a segway to an ad. XD
The117thCon It’s actually spelled segue ;)
Legit gave me Linus ptsd.
I love my GTX 285, and it currently sits along a Core 2 Duo E8600 in a WinXP retro gaming rig. That is where a card like this belongs IMO.
@@webbie7503 I still use an i7 2700K today. Sandybridge was insanely good.
Remember GTX 285 is limited to DX10. Even the Vega 3 has support for DX12. One of the biggest reasons why most modern titles will not run at all on the old 285.
Side note: I still have my Xfx GTX 285 and love this card still. The most latest title I could run was Killing Floor 2, but I had to force it to launch in DX10 to make it work.
Now this is something I'm into. Keep doing these throughout the years. Earned the sub.
Awesome! Welcome to the channel.
Same here
Dawid, I've been following you for a while and I must say your videos are very entertaining to watch! Keep on bringing the X vs Y vids :D
That is very nice of you to say. Thank you for the support. 😃
The lesson I'm getting from your analogies and conclusions is that Mike Tyson should fight disabled kids when he becomes elderly
No, when he's 9 years into retirement assuming the 285 had a 2 year run
Isn't he already elderly? He's definitely not relevant anymore...
@@crowonthepowerlines welll he's gonna be relevant again when he starts punching children.
@@trippinsciko or eating them
@@trippinsciko he was so good and so well known that he was always relevant, even now.
"Aged worse than a fruit fly" is being added to my everyday vocabulary
one day mommy an apu will be made you make your gpu look like a piece of crap😭
"Some Gigabyte B450 board - its pretty terrible but it gets the job done"
*laughs in AMD A320 chipset paired with a Ryzen 5 2600*
That's what I get in my Folding machine/minecraft server and it runs well enough :-D
My 2600 is on a b450 steel legend....
>Not having the most expensive BS
i have that very some gigabyte b450 board, i really don't understand why it's pretty terrible. running fine with my 5800x3d. i never had any issues with it with any of the 3 cpus i paired it with.
Lmao! I found that Mike Tyson analogy hilarious
Haha!! Mike Tyson didn't age very well. XD
Why are you everywhere? You cousin Justin Y has also returned.
HIW ARE YOU HERE
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I'm not so sure about that, did you see him fight Roy Jones lately ? 😋😂
Had my Radeon HD 7950 from 2012 running for a while this summer because my other card died. 1080p games ran well, 1440p kinda worked.
So I would say in the 4 years between the GTX 285 and HD 7950 there was a lot of improvement.
Same for my 7850, which still sits in my 2nd pc
i have a 7870 atm and I can run Dying Light at max graphics at good fps… Moore’s Law was actually a thing back then
The Radeon HD 7- Series emitts so much nostalgia from simpler times
It's because the 285 doesn't have meaningful dx 11 support and doesn't have tessellation acceleration. Using a 580, you wouldn't have seen the same issues and if would have outperformed the apu by a large amount
This is a great video! I dig the comparison, I just upgraded from an I7 950 which I buiilt like 10 years ago with a GTX 460 to a Ryzen 3700x with an RX 580 4gb I got used for $90 from Kijiji.
The old system gave me 10 great years, mostly for photo editing but now... I feel relieved! So I really love seeing these comparisons.
Would like to see this on a newer APU, something like the 5700g. If I remember correctly that athlon cpu is based off AMDs older design before ryzen, which means it's horrible.
athlon 200ge is based on zen1, same as the rest of the (ryzen) 2000 g-series.
also same as ryzen 1000
There's no real point testing iGPUs post 3400G
Their performance increase is hardly anything to mention
It's just that newer APUs are no longer much slower than rest of the Gen chips with same core count
@@MaxC_1 well there are now the 6000 series mobile APUs and they have updated iGPU architecture from Vega - although you can extrapolate that would lead to an even more severe thrashing
the 5700g has equally hot garbage integrated graphics. the good news is that you have 8 decent cores with hyper-threading, but the iGPU is useless for anything more than a video signel.
That B450M DS3H is a nice motherboard :/ "some motherboard" ..
I own 2 of them, fantastic boards after you update the bios. Even managed to get some ancient 2133mhz ram to run at 2666mhz with nothing but the speed changed.
U know youtubers bruh. If it doesn't cost atleast $300 then it's terrible
@@randomusername1112 LowSpecGamer wants to know your location
I bought it for R5 3600. Works nice
I have a R5 3600x on it and it runs pretty well, now im not sure about manual overclocking but i use ryzen master with the auto overclock profile and it runs under 70°C in all my games while keeping boost clocks up
I actually use the B450M DS3H on my Ryzen 3600 build. I even overclocked my RAM from 2400 MHz to 3466 MHz.
"some" Gigabyte motherboard
@Mark Penhall he said it's a B450M Ds3h
I hate that damn motherboard.
Out the box had boot issues until one day it just threw a tantrum and decided to never wake up again.
Honestly, just get an MSI B450 tomahawk, sure it's an atx but by the gods, it's worth paying $30 more for.
“This motherboard is pretty terrible” me who currently has it installed: 😐
Isn’t the 3000g a better choice for this?
It would do better, I only have a 200GE though. :P
Still uses Vega 3
@@coconutkoala6034 maybe but the overclock headroom is insane
Better the 2400
@@coconutkoala6034 no ryzen 3 32p0g has vega 8
Dawid: Yeah 1 GB of VRAM is the reason for stutters.
Me: Wow so smooth with my 512 MB VRAM on my laptop APU.
an actual gpu or apu uses the ram as vram.
@@McLeonVP Well no and yes. While an APU does use the main system RAM, a GPU has it's own built in VRAM.
@@thatnongayfurry5063 of course but if you're using 4gb of 4gb of vram. Like a gtx 1650
If you exceed this. You're gonna have lower fps of course. But not stutters.
Cuz the system always share ram as vram.
For Ryzen the best ram is 3733mhz . And for intel 4400mhz or 5333mhz
@@McLeonVP One thing is that I was quoting David, the other thing is that you said that if I were to use a GTX 1650, then it would use the RAM from the main system which is not true as GPUs have their own seperate VRAM, atleast that is what I understood from your message.
@@thatnongayfurry5063 If shared memory doesn't exist. (in windows at least)
Some games would'nt even open with 512mb or 1024mb of vram
I like these sort of comparisons because, at least I'm my area, a lot people listing 10+YO tech still seam to think it's worth a lot. This is a really good example of how it doesn't age all that well after a certain point, and shouldn't be fetching such high prices.
Tech with humor is a solid combo. Keep up the excellent work!
My nearly decade old HD6670 1 gig Gddr5 still outperforms Vega 5 but loses to a Vega 8 in test conditions. Driver Issues is a Major factor as I can confirm my old GPU has actually improved in performance with driver updates. (Esp in multiplayer titles)
i think the stuttering on the 285 could be because of the slow CPU core clock on the 200GE i bet it would happen with like even an i5 or i7 from those times or even a newer one just to see what the GPU can do with no bottlenecks
Yeah, I also thought that, but remember the Half-Life 2 was designed to run on WAY slower CPUs than the 200GE and it still had an issue with stuttering.
I see you replying to comments so I want to say Hi 🙋♂️.
Hello :D
@@DawidDoesTechStuff hi
Do a part 2 with the newer ryzen apu :)
hell, even with something of the same age, but more powerful, 2400g
That's a good idea, I can compare it to a GPU that supports more modern titles.
3400g would smash a 285 :)
@@DawidDoesTechStuff might i suggest a evga gtx470? vs the latest amd apu?
4:42 I nearly spit my coffee out. No offense intended Dawid, but that sounded a little like 'cooter' which has a very different meaning in Oklahoma, USA 🤣
Old Mike Tyson throw a mighty punch, miss and falls and hit head on wheelchair, KO.
Great video but HL2 runs great on a legacy system from 2007 i have so I'm sure a driver issue is holding it back.
it's a newer version of the game, same with gta 5
HOW DO YOU ONLY HAVE 66K SUBS. I'Ve been watchin ur vids and they are GREAT!! Keep up the good work! :)
Thank you very much. I appreciate you watching. 😃
I had a GTX 280, which is the 285's slightly older and slower brother. If memory serves, it did OK for a 2008 graphics card on the 1280x1024 monitor I had at the time but it was quickly overshadowed by newer offerings. It's still lurking in my closet biding its time.
Interesting comparison. Great video Dawid.
Thanks for watching. 😃
Great video as always! Could you do another video with a Ryzen 3400G and a GTX 750Ti? Thanks 🔥
That sounds interesting i will look into it. 👍
@@DawidDoesTechStuff yes please!
As a 3400G owner. Vega 11 APU are great for 60FPS at 768P at high/ultra settings... (If Overclocked and with 3000mhz RAM) Im waiting for Vega 20/21 APUs which it comes on 2021.
If not ill skip it to Navi2 APUs on 2022
Probably i assume those 2 APU specially the Navi2 will make gaming dGPUless at 1080p. I expect gaming based NUC PC around
My dad's computer got these exact specs lmao
dude i played doom 2016 on that with atleast 32 fps so it worked good for me
did you change the thermal paste on Nvidia dinosaur? Its dried rock solid years ago, and if you did not, some of the stuttering you experienced might be because of it, the GPU thermal throttling...
I changed the thermal paste when I got the card. :D (Not that long ago)
@@DawidDoesTechStuff good to hear, so then it just was the low VRAM and very outdated drivers that caused it, like you said in the video.
@@thiscouldntblowmore Yeah I think it is really badly optimized on Windows 10. Even on the deskop it runs pretty badly.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Turn off Aero it requires DX11 that card only supports the feature level of DX10. For half life 2 it definitely wasn't the ram it uses under 400mb of vram on my system.
Overall, it's probably windows 10's fault
Wow, a video without any potential fires or shocks or vomiting. That's a nice exception!
Haha!! I thought I would change it up abit.
Lol dawid predicts the future with mike tysons next boxing match
Dawid Does Tech Stuff : dude, you made me laugh like crazy with that intermezzo "dom platz" of yours suddenly in the middle of being serious....that was some straight up freestyle stand up ;) !!!!
😂
I feel like it would have been more fair to use a GTX 480 or 580 simply for the DX11 support. But I guess it wouldn't have been a as interesting as the APU would be left in the dust hahaha.
You missed the point
I wonder if the people who mod Nvidia drivers got something that could still work... Although I don't think a better driver could fix the stuttering.
That would be really cool to see. I think the most important thing for them to fix is the terrible game support. :)
Does this card even support dx 11
@@JudeTheRUclipsPoopersubscribe It doesn't support dx 11 so most games won't run anyway
Why did it take me so long to find this channel? Really good stuff man
Right?
0:57 gary the snail? . by the way nice domz platz
This test should have been done with the new 3000G APU instead. It's about the same price as the 200GE, but it's relatively faster. I heard it overclocks pretty good too. Only problem is that it seems pretty difficult to get a hold of.
Im still using gtx 295 in my secondary pc, what a beast even today. The only issue is directx 10.
The only issue is it can't play modern games without stutter lol
@@Fractal_blip Or at all without DX11+ support :D
Great video and you make an excellent point, most people only get to see high end tech and higher fps and overspend for it. You can make very good builds for very cheap and in a few years you aren't shelling out more big $$$ to keep everything at a point you are used to.
Wow, I got this recommended the day this video turned a year old, thats coincedencial.
Can you do a benchmark between voodoo 5500 agp vs geforce 2 mx200
What do you mean its always Gary?
😂
I've ran the GTX 285 with the AMD Phenom x4 9650 cpu. Seems they were quite high end in 2008 back when Windows Vista was the latest and greatest operating system out there. They actually do a good job running games from 2013 or earlier.
I am currently using an AMD Phenom x4 9650. This gpu has aged really well, this thing can even run doom 2016 at constant 70 frames
You've started it now, how about pushing on through the years, trying to find the earliest gpu that clearly surpasses the 200ge...
If the 200ge is not quite an upgrade for your existing gpu you have to wonder about the other components as well.
Well it's slower than a 2200g/2400g. And those are close to or near gt 1030 performance. Early cards that were close to that are gts 450 which is basically a gts 250...then there's 550ti that was an upgraded 450. Radeon equivalents were something like hd 5770, 6770... a 7850 is alot faster!
Also interesting to note... the gts 250 was actually a revised 8800gt die. LOL so nvidia rebranded it through lik 4 generations. What a legendary piece of silicon!
I was glued to this. I used to have a gtx260 and that was a good card. I have been out of computers for 10 or so years. Just recently built a new system with a 1650super video card and its of course much better than the gtx260.
What about the 3000 ge which is arguably better at the same 55$ price and you didn't OC it.
Btw go watch the lowspecgamer's video
I don't have a 3000 GE, but that would be even more in favor of the APU.
The 2200G would have been a far better comparison.
@@toofast4radar
Well you'd never see a gtx285 priced the same as a 2200G
@@shinigami-kc1un haha
@@shinigami-kc1un depends, if you take into account the fact that you're gonna have to get that 285 used, then you may very WELL be able to do just that.
1080 are going for $170 on ebay, I bought a 1070ti for the same price right before the crypto boom. I bought 19 cards, mined them then sold them for double in April 2021.
"you shouldn't spend that much money on a top of the line graphics card"
Is that a personal attack dawid? I know my purchasing habits aren't the greatest, you didn't have to rub it in xD
I've been messing around with a 2200g here recently on a b350m board from MSI. Some things to know about these APUs;
Regardless of what spec the ram is that you put with it, unless you specify memory settings in the bios these APUs will default to running the ram at 2133mhz. Double check with cpuz and speccy, if they show 1067 on the ram clock you're running at base ddr4 frequencies and there's a pretty good performance lift when you force it to run at 2933 (1450mhz as reported by cpuz\speccy.) The ram I have socketed is corsair vengeance LPX at 3200mhz. I used the memory try-it to force it to 2933 cl16-18-18-36, it runs great.
The Vega 8 igpu can also be overclocked, quite easily since you're on an aftermarket cooler. (The better the heatsink you have, the more consistent performance you'll get.) Mine is at 1500mhz and 1.2v with the cpu section set to 3.7ghz and 1.35v.
that motherboard is very good for budget builds, cheapest b450 motherboard with 4 ram slots also
Yes, I wonder why he said it was so bad.
Dat p r e t t y t e r r i b l e that he said broke me.
This is a very nice budget motherboard, works very well on my R5 3600 + GTX 1660 Ti + 16GB RAM rig. I guess my only downside is to have only O N E additional fan connector and that's it.
But let's be honest, Dawid is just like Linus and Gamer Nexus you know?! He see any budget object and complains.
I had a 285! Was quite nice for its time .. Paid top dollar for it too, I seem to recall. Was it a waste of money ? ... Well, maybe, yes. Any purchase of expensive hardware that is bound to be obsolete after a number of years certainly makes it seem that way. But I do also believe that the enjoyment that you are receiving back during the time you use that hardware, is worth it in the end - Even though, it is certain, that any computer hardware will eventually worth nothing after some time. That's just the nature of this hobby, I guess.
6:31 Hi, kitty cat! 🙂
I struggled to see it but eventually found it in the bottom right hand corner, behind the sofa, after the bad edit.
Great video! Im still suprised how a 1050 compares with a vega 11 apu
Love it may be poinjtless but good fun :)
I can't ask for more than that. :D
You are such a underrated tech channel, hidden gem
I've been interested to see how the new AMD apu's stack against my hd7870.. currently still okay for my games, btw... Lol.
Well, I have a laptop with 7660g graphics and now I have a ryzen 3 2200g and the difference is notorious, ryzen crushes the 7660g
Desktop graphics > laptop graphics. Especially for that era. The hd7870 is a dedicated card.
gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-Vega-8-Ryzen-iGPU-vs-AMD-HD-7870/m441833vs2161
This is all I'm ever able to find on it.. other bench sites have similar results..
@@thebestweston8307 use versus. Com
Your 7870 completely smokes the APUs
The biggest difference between the two is that the GTX 285 only supports up to DirectX 10.1 while the Athlon 200GE should support up to DirectX 12. That support makes a huge difference when running modern games. :\
Video start at 4:56
Yw.
I'm fine with listening to Dawid speak for 4 minutes, people have no patience
now i want to see this video remade with a decent 2023 apu vs the gtx 285.
man I remember when integrated graphics were barely capable of running the windows desktop
I've been loving ur most recent videos Dawid.........keep up the GREAT work man >U
I wonder how my 980 TI will compare to entry level APUs in 5 years.
A ryzen 3400g is already pretty close to ur 980ti
@@wado5151 Nope, nowhere even remotely close.
@@wado5151 ????
@@wado5151 wtf
I am from the future.
The fastest radeon APU is slightly slower than a 1060 3gb so we are getting there.
AMD APUs are relativly new, only a couple of years old, we can expect they will improve significantly in performance in the next 10 years, I expect RX 5500 TX performance from APU in 5 years or so.
2010 first amd apu
"As far as the cooter goes" oh we're going there ...
Nice video. I'd really like to see how it does again something with the Ryzen 5 3400G though
"Some b450.." that thing where I live cost 100$, i have that motherboard and it is so good...
Yeah, but this is a tech youtuber, and this B450 is in the bad side of the chipset. There are B450s that can be a better option than some X470s because of VRMs and stuff, but some B450s are pretty much A320s that support overclock.
Dat p r e t t y t e r r i b l e that he said broke me.
This is a nice budget motherboard, and just like you, it's far from easy to even build a ok machine in latin america (+ shotouts to the coronavirus crisis). Works very well on my R5 3600 + GTX 1660 Ti + 16GB RAM rig, and tbh it's the only budget motherboard that we got in our terrible market with a basic VRM heatsink lmao... My only downsides the I/O lack and only O N E additional fan connector and that's it
It's a good budget motherboard, just not so good for high overclocks, which you might want to do considering it's a B450.
I bought a GTX 280 launch week in 2008 ($650 yikes) used it for many many years. If anything it was not liking the cpus at the time, but paired with a nice CPU it does pretty good.
Doing an entire video just to show how it was stuttery in GTAV is a bit narrow sighted. Should have at least benched Bioshock Infinite due to DX9-10.
So if I own 2GB GTX 285 = I win, right :D
Having a PC is winning regardless of the spec. :D
@@DawidDoesTechStuff is that a burn to consoles? Because you're right
@@axlzubia5505 idk about that man... 500 dollars for the new Xbox or PS when it's released is not a bad deal at all vs a 1000$ medium range PC... 500 bucks for a console that probably won't be replaced for atleast a decade and if you don't care for it you can sell it for a pretty damn good resale value especially the first year or so.
@@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou as you said a medium end pc a low end pc is = or faster than a console for 500-600$ aswell ontop of that we are not limited to psn shit service or Xbox live games are cheaper for us we have support for kb/m and any controller everyone needs a PC of some sort aswell and there's so much more... Like graphics settings higher fps list goes on
@@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou Well yeah, but the PC does a lot more than a console. You can just game and maybe see movies on the console, but with the PC you can edit videos, draw, create music, use Facebook (:v), you can even emule older consoles with it. For example, I've never had a console in my life, yet I've played Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess, Mario Kart, Pokemon, Higurashi and Umineko when they cry, Paper Mario, God of War, Mortal Kombat, Smash Brothers, Crash Bandicoot, Luigi's Mansion, Star Fox, etc. Of course, I can never play the new releases, I have to wait a few months or years :'v
Love your channel man! Content isn't always the most original, but I like your on on camera character more than 90% of other tech youtubers.
Probably not tbe classiest use of a compassion to the handicap kind of a bad move David I know it wasn't malicious but still my man bad look I'd advise shying away from it in the future please
The GTX 285 was release in 2009. The actual time between launches is about 9 years and 8 months.
classy using the handicap as a butt of your joke dude
Sjw alert
6:32 even the cat got board at this point
4:55 thank me later
"Gary, its always Gary." Yes that's true, also Brett
first maybe?
Yup!
Yeah, I think you got it. :D
Thinking about this question today. BOOM. Dawid has a clear answer via video.
Nice.
This is dumb. Also, so many incorrect statements made, I can't even. Who's subscribing?
What'd he do wrong!?
@@ntodek Probably the advice at the end basically saying nobody should buy the highest end card since an APU Will eventually beat it. Same could be said for any GPU really.
I mean 500 dollar phones are now more powerful than most modern computers from 10 or even 5 years ago. It's actually fascinating to think about
l had a gtx295, I believe it had two gpus on the same board. I actually ran two of them in quad sli, one of them failed due to heat.
It was my first i7 build as well, i7 940 if I recall.
Ahhhh, the goold old era, when computers did everything with only their CPUs... (and some coprocessors too lol)
Well I started putting together PC's back in the early mid 90's when I was at uni. Then didn't have the time because of travel/work etc and picked up again mid 2000's. Then because of again new career had to move to a new country stopped for a while and picked up this hobby again just last year. Every time I start again I had to take around 2 weeks to read up on all the new tech and it's always amazing.
I think you should have used the 3000G. Not only is it $5 cheaper, it can be overclocked if you can manage it.
*shows DS3H in video*
"yeah it's pretty terrible"
me: *looks at my motherboard* word.
Don't give a shit about tech RUclipsrs
Well isn't it fitting of RUclips to give me an ad about wrestling on ESPN+ after you're talking about Mike Tyson in your video.
I ran a Ryzen 2200g for a while. Performed way better than I expected for a APU.
Agreed, kinda hard to find that sweetspot where your not overspending, but you can still get the full value of the GPU for its timespan...
On paper, HL2 should run flawlessly. I suppose all of the constant source updates are making it more and more optimised for modern hardware.
It could also be the CPU section of the 200GE, although the game should run perfectly on even slower CPU's.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Exactly! I ran it on a single core Celeron with ATI Radeon 9250 back in the day... yes it was DirectX 8.1 mode, but ran perfectly smooth.
Could always just run gtx285 contemporary hl2 versions
just an fyi, the amount of "dedicated" APU RAM doesn't effect performance. I believe it's just there for older games that query how much max VRAM is available.