4K Gaming On Ryzen 7000 iGPU... For some reason
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2022
- Among other things, I tried some 4K gaming on a Ryzen 7000 iGPU... For some reason.
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I believe that 2 fps should be referred to as 120 frames per minute. It sounds much better.
Ho no! Now every dodgy seller will take notes: "Brand new, 120 fpm capable gaming pc"
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banger metric, let the battle commence at 60-120 frames per minute! 😂
Providing much needed balance to all the 4090 coverage.
If you can afford it's great but if you can't its a nightmare
Honestly he should do a 2200G or other Ryzen APU test...to truly get an idea of how the iGpu compares to the older Vega cored APU's.
@@brokeandtired I believe someone tested it already and it was a bit slower than Vega.
And pixel 7/7 pro coverage!
MUUUUCH NEEDED
This is honestly the perfect content to unwind after drooling over all the new graphics cards nobody can afford, thank you Dawid.
the size and power consumption of the 4000 cards dried my mouth out. really coudln't care about it's performance after seeing those two things. saving my money for a 3080.
Arc also came out recently....
@@Powerman293 arc does me no good , considering i'm on a ryzen 2700 cpu . it'll loose about 20fps since i don't have rebar , or amd's equivilant SAM. (which is only on 3000+ series ryzens). and i need a card that can do 4k. so it's 3080 for me , in 1-2 more pay checks depending on my living expenses.
@@Powerman293 I’ve been trying to buy one of those for a video. Excited to play around with some Intel GPU action.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff a video on it would be awesome . especially if you try and push the card.... Can I get a "Arc on 8k gaming" video?
Okay, considering this iGPU is performing as well as it is with just 2 GPU cores I am with you too, I can't wait to see what actual APUs can do. Dare I say 1080p60 with medium to high settings? If they manage that then that will stir up the entry level market for sure.
the Radeon 680m (mobile iGPU) is exactly that :)
Laughs in 90 dollars geforce rtx 1030
@@Incommensurabilities As someone with a 680M it's surprisingly powerful
@@Incommensurabilities Well it's a look at what to expect for sure but it's a mobile chip that will be limited by power and thermals. A desktop chip will have much more power available so hopefully will be significantly better.
@@machintrucGaming RTX 1030? didn't know nvidia made budget low-profile ray tracing capable cards.
Ah yes, 90 million degrees on a CPU. Perfect as a room heater
or even like, a solar system heater
EDIT: WHH DIDNT I SAY SPACE HEATER
The Fusion Problem is solved!!
When people can't even do physics right...
The Sun: I am the hottest thing in our solar system
Ryzen 5 7600X: Hold my beer
@@laszlozsurka8991 fr
On Gigabyte by default, the Integrated Graphics is set to Auto with 512MB ram. Go to the bios and change Integrated Graphics from Auto to Forces and then you will see another menu UMA mode and change it from Auto to UMA Specified and then you will see another option called UMA Frame Buffer Size and now you can set it from Auto to 4G, 8G, 16G VRAM. But in order to unlock 4, 8 and 16 you need to change another 2 options: Above 4G Decoding to Enable and Re-Size BAR to Auto/Enable. And then the 4, 8 and 16GB are unlocked!
Does this work the same with discrete graphics? I’m not able to find anything outside of resizable BAR for my Asrock B550. I think that it’s a Phantom 4 non pro.
VRAM allocation set on BIOS doesn't matter actually, as the iGPU (and any GPU for that matter) will take up to half of the system RAM as VRAM whenever needed, it's all automatic. Increasing the dedicated allocation only takes away RAM for the rest of your programs, system, cache, etc. and doesn't offer any performance improvements.
MSI Afterburner, RivaTuner, and a lot of other system monitors, don't show this dynamic VRAM allocation, that's why it always shows 500MB (the default dedicated allocation), but it's actually using much more.
oh before bashing like an idiot, that extra allocation doesn't help much instead of eating up ram for extra 1 fps.
will this actually do anything ? it should use what it needs.
I think this is pretty impressive for its specification! A dedicated APU variant would be brilliant.
Likely will be in laptops
@@crazybeatrice4555 there will be a G variant I'm sure.....like 5600G and 5700G
@@intriguingfacts5434 Comparing 7XXXG with 5XXXG gonna be good
I agree! APUs are so promising. 😃
@@crazybeatrice4555 There already is. The 6000 mobile chips have RDNA2 mobile (like the 6800U and 6900HS) have a 12 CU RDNA2 GPU - 680m. Even at 30-40w combined power it can handle Cyberpunk at around 30fps, 40fps with FSR. For integrated graphics that's pretty mental.
I think AMD only added the iGPU on these to match Intel's feature set--being able to run without a separate graphics card is really useful in the server sector. Still, surprised how well it handled these games regardless!
It is required for USB4 to be used for display and required display port meaning a GPU in mobo.
it's really useful in many situations, really.
They only added it for troubleshooting mostly.Not really intended for use as your only GPU.
@@BrooklynBalla No, they added it for OEMs. It doesn't matter if your CPU costs less and performs better if the OEM still has to put a $50 video card in there just to sell it for office use, and waiting for AMD to maybe make some APUs with them in there wasn't really worth the wait.
an iGPU is very hand for anything, i don't know why we are fighting over it.
I wonder if it's only using 500 MB of ram for the iGPU because of a setting in the BIOS. I remember my laptop BIOS had a setting to change how much ram is allocated to the iGPU (from 256mb to 4gb)
Most likely. Those things are usually set to auto and auto doesn't take more than 512MB in my experience. You always have to manually up the ram amount
Meh, the iGPU usually uses as much ram as it needs to, and the manual memory allocation is only useful for those games that requires a minimum amount of vram to run
Constantino is right
Even if I set my vram allocation to the lowest it would still surpass that once the games load.
In short, it does not matter.
@@critiqalerror It's been years and Ryzen iGPUs still show their memory allocation rather than their actual memory usage in this kind of software, I wonder who is to blame.
iirc you should be able to set it to 2gb, but i understand the point that it doesnt actually matter
Imagine they just had a really really really thin Low profile cooler in that box 🤣🤣
Hardware Canucks go _nuts_ for low-profile coolers, you can bet they'd have a video on it, lol.
(it’s just a single piece of aluminum foil wrapped around the CPU)
I’m sure the iGPU would run even hotter. 😂
Man, I always have love for AMD and their graphics cores. Like the 200ge - especially now that it's hitting the second hand market - can really help youngsters game even if they weren't born in a wealthy country or to wealthy parents in poorer countries. And it seems the APUs are gonna get a big performance bump for the 7000 series. Nice.
you gotta love how well that dark rock cool handles the temps without melting being 90 million degrees over the temp of the sun that shows some awesome build materials to handle that kind of temps🤣🤣🤣
Get a 2400G.
@@rael_gc umm nope not replacing my 5950x with that obsolete pos chip when my 5950x is better faster stronger and more virile then the 2400g
@@raven4k998 I'm just answering the guy saying that 200ge will be a valuable pick for youngsters. On this case, 2400G is a better pick.
I’ve been looking forward to this!
I'm only here for the market advice. I was trying to figure out which APU to get, now I know! Thanks Dawid!
Dawid you are great I enjoy watching your uploads and always happy to see one on my RUclips homepage
With Dawid's channel around, no wonder we're approaching thermal run off! I could see the ice caps actively melting as you ran that cpu.
Can a company that makes actual test benches please sponsor Dawid and provide him with a couple?
That 650000% is kind of a bug which can be fixed by enabling "unified gpu" option in msi afterburner
They haven't fixed that bug since vega integrated graphics.
It's far better than I expected when considering that it has only 128 shaders.
Those rdna2 cores pack a punch.
the real highlight here is how Corsair monitor comes in a crate, truly makes me wanna get one for myself lol
I newly discovered you and finally getting videos that aren’t 6million years old 😂
Haha!! Nice. Glad to see in the present.
Also wanted to mention, I checked a few boards regarding the 4K60 limitation, this may be down to the board as a board such as MSI PRO X670-P WIFI lists 4K120 for the HDMI port. Whats weird is AMD's marketing slide for the 7000 series iGPU does only list 4K60 even though it also shows HDMI 2.1, so I have no idea if you can actually drive a 4K120 display with a 7600X iGPU...
you havent heard? hdmi 2.1 basically means nothing now. you should look into it
kind makes me hopeful for if they eventually bin down the dregs of zen 4 chips to a 700ge or something like that!
was literally looking for this exact information yesterday thank you
Glad I could help. 😁
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Could you review the ryzen 7 7800x3d?
According to the AMD laptop roadmap, the successor to the 6000 series should be getting RDNA3 CUs, if AMD continues with using those chips for the desktop APUs and allows up to 12 CU again (like 6000 series with 680m) that could be a pretty exciting desktop APU!
i'm waiting
Yea, for 500$. lol
He dawid I have an old Alienware pc from 2006 which was bought at the time for 40k, do you know how much it could be worth?
I do hope that the G variants (you know, the ones that are supposed to have actually good integrated graphics) utilize the RINA2 cores. It’s clear these were put in here just for basic use, but having 8 RDNA2 (or 3) cores will be sick!
they might ut RDNA 3 in there, like 8 RDNA 3 cores, (allegedly equivalent to 16 rdna2 cores) or mayb even 12 CUs like the 680m in ryzen 6000 apus.
5:37 so THAT'S how they get the heat to start fusion reactions
would be interesting to see the performance after overclocking (if possible) and with faster ram, eg tuned 6400MTs vs 5600 vs jedec 4800, i would imagine you could get some big gains with faster ram
you crack me up dawid 🤣 great content
I wish I hadthe same high level sarcastic humour that Dawid has XD. Loved the video as always!!!
Do you pride yourself on being the best hardware troll on youtube? I love it.
You should’ve tried to allocate more vram to the igpu, because it was pegged at 480MB it might have done better with a little more but I’m not sure
I just took the cooler off my AM4 CPU to replace it... actually, I THOUGHT I'd taken the cooler off, turned out the cooler suddenly had gold pins. I have no idea how I didn't bend the pins because I had to tilt the cooler 45 degrees to unclip the back clip. I'm so glad they moved to the pins on the socket design.
That was almost odd :D Thanks!!!
After a while I forgot this was 4k. I'm genuinely impressed.
No he said 1080p
The best channel on YT: while 100 other channels doing review of the same RTX4090 this guy produces unique content
I love the silliness that you bring to the tech tuber space - Keep it up Dawid!
Thanks!
thank you for the review.
Finally, the review we've all been waiting for.
Aw man, Dawid, it would have been great to also compare the iGPU to last-gen's reasonable selections like the 5600G or 5700G, as well as Intel's options
Its like half the preformance of the 5600g.
I had the impression that "Reasonable" and "Dawid" doesn't mix, so lets see...
...wasn't disappointed.
music starts playing Anna shows up with Vileda gloves and the stun gun
you don't even need slow motion effects for battlefield 5 explosions with that lol
Where can I but that T-shirt which says "Noob". Absolutely love it.
Why not test if the iGPU can handle video encoding in OBS...?? Or does it not include the media codec?
I believe you can allocate more ram to the igpu thru the bios settings of the motherboard also couple it with 6400 MT/s ram to see how much performance you can get out of it
I'm confused
I had a Ryzen 3600g in my pc and I used to play GTA V with it with normal 1080p settings, and with these settings I used to get about 50 fps
And this CPU here is a much newer and powerful generation than 3600g and still this CPU is giving 56 fps in the same settings on the same game ?
i love this channel
I wonder if you could increase the VRAM on the iGPU? I did that on my 5600g increasing from 512mb to 2gb by just fiddling around the bios settings. Not familiar with Gigabyte bios but Asus has that in their bios
that sounds very weird, what did you do, did you share actual RAM to the igpu?
@@x2stefan2701 yes
It makes pretty much no difference. If the iGPU needs to allocate more system memory, it will do so automatically.
The setting is good for games that won't boot and shows a "not enough memory" error.
@@riven4121 Yeah, I'm pretty sure it makes zero difference in performance. It will take and partition whatever it needs.
cheems how much did the performance stats change ? did it make any difference
They removed the data of some 1st gen Ryzen CPUs to make space for Ryzen 5000 on the x570/B550 boards
Next step is for you to get your hands on one of the Ryzen 6000 laptops.
And how did you come to that conclusion, cause that's not at all what's happening. Not even close at all xD
Hey the Athlon iGPU is running 65536% to keep up with the 99% utilization CPU
The most impressive thing about Dawid's videos is his ability to not crash his car in GTA V
10 fps is pretty much my whole childhood gaming experience, iGPU performance is absolutely insane nowadays *chef's kiss*
Hello! Why is only 400-480 megabytes of video memory being used? Maybe something needs to be adjusted in the BIOS?
5:51, To be fair, I was expecting it to be slower.
May i know what fps program did you use from philippines tnx
Judging by how rDNA2 iGPU perform in Ryzen 6600U runs, rDNA2 is pretty much very impressive, even when they have 2 CUs. Can't wait for 7000G series which probably going to be a great GPU-less setup.
Nice Tarantula Nebula wallpaper
I have the Mid-Infrared Instrument (MIRI) version for my wallpaper
would really like to see how the iGPU performs with better, faster memory. RDNA may scale a lot better than Vega and might not be as disappointing as the Intel igpu Video.
How about comparing it to 2200g or any of the earlier ryzen apus
When I got into PC gaming I struggled to get cheap hardware to run gta 5 properly. It's just impressive to see how a little igpu can now outperformed a dedicated gpu from back then.
I'd love to see you try out the new 7000G or U series cpus, I'd love to see what you can do on them. I love how amd are now putting a mediocre igpu into all their new cpus to allow you to get an office up amd running without a gpu
I have worked on quite a few PGA-socketed CPUs over the years and I have neither bent pins nor pulled out the CPU together with the cooler.
What am I doing wrong?
Nice speakers. From a kit? Good audio always makes low framerates more tolerable
Good video!
It really does show home impressive each "core" must be to pull this off. only 2 cores and it's a tolerable 1080p deal. imagine this but with say 8 cores. It would spank most of the pre-rtx graphics cards.
close to 1060 on integrated, pretty impressive
@@bradhaines3142 certainly making those losery 1030s feel bad.
Haven't had a socket rip out since I've started twisting my cooler off the IHS
Hey what program does he use to record Temps and performance while gaming
Can you repeat this test with the 7800x3d when it comes out?
the percentage in the working very hard bug is the 16 bit integer limit so now we know how many bits it uses for that
iGPU does take surface on a chip die. Therefore, when creating iGPU you need to chose between : 1. sacrificing performance of main CPU in order to have decent iGPU (AMD strategy for their G processors) 2. have very basic iGPU in order to have performant CPU (Intel strategy so far with their non-F processors) . Intel was aiming for office and business market, while AMD targeted budget home computers . Looks like AMD now tries to grab part of the "serious" market from Intel.
Actually, Amd's G series processors are repurposed from their laptop's APU. That's why. if you delid the G series CPU, it will have a single die unlike the chiplets they use normally. And although I agree, AMD needs to choose between performance and cost efficiency, they still created the best APU aka 6800H which has 680m and if you see some benchmarks online, you know it performs almost like a GTX 1050ti Desktop.
@@idksurely1578 True, but as CPU 6800H is much slower as CPU than lets say 5800X which is older technology. Things like L3 cache need to be sacrificed to get decent iGPU.
These tests are more fun than watching $1600 video cards do well.
It sounds like you set stuff in the BIOS correctly, but it sucks it would never use more than 512MB.
I wonder if "UMA Game Optimized" would run better than UMA Specified (which I assume you used to set to 16G by hand). Also wonder if the boards have the same use (typo?) of Forces instead of Forced.
Yeah, when they say HDMI 2.1, it means the feature set, rather than the bandwidth. You'd have to look up the info per device yourself.
The part where he said the human eye can't supposedly see over 3fps got me laughing like mad 😂😂
the core clock on that igpu in the 7000 series cpu is higher than I can get on my gtx1080ti Dawid
try to overclock the Igpu to 3000Mhz with the latest bios and try to use 6000/6400/66000 mhz memory with cl30 /32 /36
Will the future APU's have the same RDNA2 like these or would they come with RDNA3?...
What's the post powerful iGPU available today? Ryzen 7 G/GE with 8 graphics cores? I'd like to make a custom PC in the old retro wedge form factor. Can't find a useful answer to the question by searching.
My god they have made an absolute nightmare out of sorting through all the available options. So many different ranges and models and the AMD website is useless.
Imagine you've bought every single component for PC, but GPU prices jumped and you need to work another few days to finally get it and at this time you use this.
that chip socket deflowering should be called cilf
Deliding the 7600x should lower cpu temps significantly with direct die cooling . Derbauer got around -20c on his 7000 cpu's compared stock with running with the ihs.
Tbh, useful because I've been considering building an mini-itx PC for my living room home entertainment setup. Getting tired of my shitty Roku tv's os crashing all the time
Your conclusion alone was worth watching the whole video for.
Thanks for showing me my next monitor 😃
7:48 Keycaps? I believe that's the keyboard I have, and those keycaps look really nice
I wonder what's up wit the sub 500MB memory usage.. either that or it's just mis-reporting the usage like some of the other stats..
I want to see that beast 2 CU iGPU overclocked!
I recently got the 7900x and it blew my mind how heavy it actually was.
in android emulation would it be better or worse? I want to just play raid shadow legends until december when the amd gpu launches.
I just upgraded from a i7 4770 to a Ryzen 5 1600 and honestly I already see improvements.
"Jump start it like stealing the car".... Dawid.. does that mean, you've done this before?!
Who can advise me for a laptop 15 screen, for mainly use of latest Revit, and in minor use but heavy when done of a lumion version 9-10. 1tb ssd and 32gb ram with a card (I don't know much about cards) like the rtx 3060 6gb.I will use it always with the charger and I don't search for the lightest or the prettiest (with lights on the buttons). It will be used mostly for work and I want to keep it for many years. Thank you in advance.
Can you get 30fps with a nvidia 4090 and a dual core celeron ? or A 4 core Bristol cpu in GTA
can't wait to see 7600G in action
Wow, that was fun.
an entire unsigned short integer for utilization, damn
Normal tech RUclipsrs do 4k testing on a 4090, dawid does it one a cpu 😂😂
In my old PC, the iGPU saved my ass, because days before presenting my master thesis on my PC, the GPU just broke, but I had a CPU with iGPU so I could still work (playing games wasn't even an option at this time ;). Good to know that Ryzen have iGPU
What's the name of the software he uses for showing FPS and CPU