I never operated a D11, but I have some experience with the D9, which probably differs mostly in size and power, but has similar controls. When operating, there's the throttle, which is usually used at full capacity while working (there's also an inverted gas pedal, but it isn't implemented in the controls you showed). There are two handles for the threads, which allows to break each thread separately for turning/pivoting, or slow down/brake when both of them are pulled simultaneously. My guess is that you should set up the velocity (and maybe control it with one hand), and use the "levers" on the left to turn, slow down or stop by pulling the left/right, or both at the same time. There's usually one handle for the blade, which can move forward and backwards to move the blade down or up (respectively), or left/right to tilt the blade sideways. This could've been done in the app as a joystick, but you don't usually tilt while moving the blade up or down, so it's not a big deal. The ripper's controls are similar with the up/down and backwards/forwards movement, but since the set doesn't have a back/forward movement for the ripper, a simple up/down switch seems to be enough. I suggest you try driving it using the track handles for both turning and slowing down, and let us know how it feels.
The app looks really interesting, and I hope you feel better soon! The turning on carpets and climbing performance can be easily improved on the 42100 by replacing the useless linear clutches with axle extender pieces of the same length. The motors stall well before the gears would begin cracking.
It is already modification but the Liebherr can climb and turn in the same way if 1) clutches are reinforced, 2) top rollers are lifted to strain the tracks.
It did for me lol I bought the dozer and started building earlyer this week never in my life thought I would be building legos at 30 years old😂😂😂😂🤪🤪😍🤤👍
@@RacingBrick seen it, liked it and thank you for it! For me it's still a sad thing that there are no more official B models, at least for the expensive sets. Seeing the moc of the Liebherr I just wonder why. For me it's the better dozer in terms of lego. Can lift itself, every function works simultaneously. Still don't know if I get the cat if there will be a great discount 🤣 but for now I will stick with the liebherr. Again thx for all the information provided
Great video - didn't know the CAT had the path following function - that is quite interesting I guess but maybe there is not a whole lot you can do with it in practice.
I think the biggest problem people have with this set is: It's a bulldozer. Trucks with crane attachments, cranes by them selves or excavators will always have more functions. And bigger offroad cars/trucks and dozers will always be criticized for the lack of "functions" I guess. That's a reasonable argument of course, since it's obvioulsy true. But on the other hand: That's nothing that can be changed - except if you add gimmicks, what TLG did. And is an crane/excavator arm with multiple joints equal to multiple funktions? I don't know :D I know the model from Eric, I realy like it, but I still do not see a real benefit of one-motor-per-function in the case of a dozer. You will never use the ripper, you will almost never do 'fast' maneuver... There is also a realy nice dozer from Dawid Szmandra. He added a 'realistic' suspension and sacrificed the adjustable blade-angle for that, but kept the ripper with two functions - which you will never use... =| I don't realy see how to do a "pro/con" list about those models. If you like lego-mechanics+RC: go for the Lego-version, it's somehow the most playful (not playable!)/gimmicky, too. If you like full RC: Choose Erics C-Model. If you like display-sets with some RC: Go for Dawids version. And if you want the biggest with full-RC wait for effermans MOC xD But since some functions are unuseable anyway: Size is actually a factor, too :D conclusio: Get all of them :X And I almost forgot: Get well soon :)
Thanks! I think dozers can have different functions, at least real life dozers can do much more with their blades besides lift and tilt. A complex mechanism replicating that would be fascinating, and I'm almost sure it'd be possible to replicate it in LEGO form at this scale. My main problem with this set - it is unnecessarily huge, and although the gearbox gives you a good building experience, using it is a pain. You really have to wait 4-5 seconds before any function besides drive is activated, it gets annoying very quickly. I'll show the difference between this and the Liebherr MOC in the next video, from a playability perspective the gap is enormous. And I guess from a functionality standpoint realism is also a factor that can be appreciated. An off-road truck can have limited functions (drive, steering, diff lock maybe), but if the implementation is realistic and the result is a capable off-roader then the play experience still can be great.
@@RacingBrick Not sure about the possibility ^^. But yes, realism is of course a noteable point, too. Not sure which model fails there the most ;D But I simple cannot get in the mood to criticize any of them, as I said; I like them all :D About the delay: Since the motor(s?) seem to rotate backwards a bit before the actual switch happens, I see two possibilities: 1. Bug in the app, like multitouch effect. 2. Overprotecting like ...I don't know what. If you switch under load that can cause trouble (endless testing with 42114 tought me that for sure) so rotating the drive motor back a bit helps a lot. But it seems like they rotate the selection-motor a bit back, which I do not understand, and every function has a worm gear or actuators, therefore the load should not be a problem. If the delay is realy a big problem: The speed in your first video with PU seems perfectly fine to me, so I would choose to ignore that point :D
Based on the noises there's a sort of "shaking" movement before switching to the position, might be there to avoid being stuck as you said. I think the main issue here is the lack of function selector, adding a simple switch could ensure that I don't have to wait long seconds trying to trigger the function before anything happens. I rotate the selector in position, once it's there there could be e.g. a green light with the icon of the function, and I would know it is ready to be used.
Nice recap. Hope you feel better. I agree with much of what you said and really work a LEGO would do a better job of listening regards the App. Your suggests (x-ray) make a lot of sense. I will probably get the set because I like the Technic building process.
Thanks for the thorough 2 part review RavingBrick. I'm real interested in this set, sure it's a bit on the pricey side but the build looks interesting. Also both my kids can have a big machine eaxh rather than fighting over the Liebherr haha!
Hi. Thanks for the video. I would be interested to hear from someone who did the test your build at the recommended step. When I do this, there seems to be a few errors in the app but until I'm sure I didn't want to advance the build. Most importantly, some of the 6. tests seem to move parts in different sequences than the test. Over the 6. tests all the parts move but in a different order. Only tests 4-5 (which control the tracks) move in the sequence suggested by the test. I have confirmed all the motors are plugged in where the instructions say. Is this just a mistake in their app or is something wrong? And if so, what? Second, the app shows the same part to check for the test in both steps 1 and 6 which I think is a mistake. Thanks.
I wonder if there is a way that we can modify the set to have to hubs and speed up the the blade functions as thats my to biggest pet paves about the set
It is certainly possible, but the whole thing could be done in a more compact size and then there'd be no need to add more motors just to handle the weight
How long is the calibration, ive sat here and waited for 10 minutes for something to happen, it only lifted the front blade and put it down, and nothing happened afterwards.
I installed the lego control+ app when I bought the liebherr R 9800.I'm very happy with it.But I have a question.I'm planning to buy a new D11 bulldozer but I can't see it in the control+ app.I was looking for an update but couldn't find any.Is my phone old maybe or do I update the app after I buy the D11 set?Thank you for any advice.
Regardless of the recommended age and the labels, it's still primarily a kid's toy. TLG is slapping the 18+ label nowadays on everything that can be potentially interesting for adult builders, but these sets are still mostly bought for kids, so their experience does matter.
Not being able to control blade and ripper during drive is a HUGE Bummer! That's not how its supposed to be! Just gives the buy another hint its meant for kids!
Switching between functions is very slow due to the gearbox operation, it is what it is. I suggest to wait for the next video if you're looking for a nice and playable dozer :)
@@RacingBrick i was looking into the D10T series of RC4WD but that thing costs several grands! Nowhere close to even my budget but it offer brute Force like no other!
I'm sure MK did his best designing this set, but one knows from the start the set is not focused on playability when the box says 18+. Ripper should have been able to dig in the dirt with some strong worm gear mechanism and not stop above ground and tipper should have been able to lift + tilt while simultaneously driving. In fact this bulldozer should have gotten the same kind of one motor per function like the Liebherr did to make it authentic and functional like Technic sets should be. So comparing it to 8275 it's a downgrade.
"for the kids" i dont think kids should use this... functions are kinda slow and well.. kids are impatient. chances are this here set aint gonna last 15 minutes after a kid plays with it
I never operated a D11, but I have some experience with the D9, which probably differs mostly in size and power, but has similar controls. When operating, there's the throttle, which is usually used at full capacity while working (there's also an inverted gas pedal, but it isn't implemented in the controls you showed). There are two handles for the threads, which allows to break each thread separately for turning/pivoting, or slow down/brake when both of them are pulled simultaneously. My guess is that you should set up the velocity (and maybe control it with one hand), and use the "levers" on the left to turn, slow down or stop by pulling the left/right, or both at the same time. There's usually one handle for the blade, which can move forward and backwards to move the blade down or up (respectively), or left/right to tilt the blade sideways. This could've been done in the app as a joystick, but you don't usually tilt while moving the blade up or down, so it's not a big deal. The ripper's controls are similar with the up/down and backwards/forwards movement, but since the set doesn't have a back/forward movement for the ripper, a simple up/down switch seems to be enough. I suggest you try driving it using the track handles for both turning and slowing down, and let us know how it feels.
The app looks really interesting, and I hope you feel better soon! The turning on carpets and climbing performance can be easily improved on the 42100 by replacing the useless linear clutches with axle extender pieces of the same length. The motors stall well before the gears would begin cracking.
@Ayush Vasisht Thank you so much! I greatly appreciate your support!
Hope you'll feel better next time. Thanks for a great review.
It is already modification but the Liebherr can climb and turn in the same way if
1) clutches are reinforced,
2) top rollers are lifted to strain the tracks.
Call me crazy, but this video actually piqued my interest in the ‘dozer set despite my earlier “meh” feelings towards it.
It did for me lol I bought the dozer and started building earlyer this week never in my life thought I would be building legos at 30 years old😂😂😂😂🤪🤪😍🤤👍
Yeah, that's what I thought, but I think he's being a shill for Lego
@@Jesse-xh3zy Dont feel bad. I will be 60 this year and Mine arrives today LOL
I really want this set, but it's very expensive. :(
I still want to see a comparison between the cat and the bulldozer moc out of the liebherr
And it just happened!
@@RacingBrick seen it, liked it and thank you for it! For me it's still a sad thing that there are no more official B models, at least for the expensive sets. Seeing the moc of the Liebherr I just wonder why. For me it's the better dozer in terms of lego. Can lift itself, every function works simultaneously.
Still don't know if I get the cat if there will be a great discount 🤣 but for now I will stick with the liebherr.
Again thx for all the information provided
thx for the great vid balazs
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
Looking into getting this set cause my dad and i do construction together, seems like it would be a fun build
Great video - didn't know the CAT had the path following function - that is quite interesting I guess but maybe there is not a whole lot you can do with it in practice.
I think the biggest problem people have with this set is: It's a bulldozer.
Trucks with crane attachments, cranes by them selves or excavators will always have more functions. And bigger offroad cars/trucks and dozers will always be criticized for the lack of "functions" I guess. That's a reasonable argument of course, since it's obvioulsy true.
But on the other hand: That's nothing that can be changed - except if you add gimmicks, what TLG did. And is an crane/excavator arm with multiple joints equal to multiple funktions? I don't know :D
I know the model from Eric, I realy like it, but I still do not see a real benefit of one-motor-per-function in the case of a dozer. You will never use the ripper, you will almost never do 'fast' maneuver...
There is also a realy nice dozer from Dawid Szmandra. He added a 'realistic' suspension and sacrificed the adjustable blade-angle for that, but kept the ripper with two functions - which you will never use... =|
I don't realy see how to do a "pro/con" list about those models. If you like lego-mechanics+RC: go for the Lego-version, it's somehow the most playful (not playable!)/gimmicky, too. If you like full RC: Choose Erics C-Model. If you like display-sets with some RC: Go for Dawids version. And if you want the biggest with full-RC wait for effermans MOC xD
But since some functions are unuseable anyway: Size is actually a factor, too :D
conclusio:
Get all of them :X
And I almost forgot: Get well soon :)
Thanks! I think dozers can have different functions, at least real life dozers can do much more with their blades besides lift and tilt. A complex mechanism replicating that would be fascinating, and I'm almost sure it'd be possible to replicate it in LEGO form at this scale.
My main problem with this set - it is unnecessarily huge, and although the gearbox gives you a good building experience, using it is a pain. You really have to wait 4-5 seconds before any function besides drive is activated, it gets annoying very quickly. I'll show the difference between this and the Liebherr MOC in the next video, from a playability perspective the gap is enormous.
And I guess from a functionality standpoint realism is also a factor that can be appreciated. An off-road truck can have limited functions (drive, steering, diff lock maybe), but if the implementation is realistic and the result is a capable off-roader then the play experience still can be great.
@@RacingBrick Not sure about the possibility ^^.
But yes, realism is of course a noteable point, too. Not sure which model fails there the most ;D But I simple cannot get in the mood to criticize any of them, as I said; I like them all :D
About the delay:
Since the motor(s?) seem to rotate backwards a bit before the actual switch happens, I see two possibilities:
1. Bug in the app, like multitouch effect.
2. Overprotecting like ...I don't know what.
If you switch under load that can cause trouble (endless testing with 42114 tought me that for sure) so rotating the drive motor back a bit helps a lot. But it seems like they rotate the selection-motor a bit back, which I do not understand, and every function has a worm gear or actuators, therefore the load should not be a problem.
If the delay is realy a big problem: The speed in your first video with PU seems perfectly fine to me, so I would choose to ignore that point :D
Based on the noises there's a sort of "shaking" movement before switching to the position, might be there to avoid being stuck as you said. I think the main issue here is the lack of function selector, adding a simple switch could ensure that I don't have to wait long seconds trying to trigger the function before anything happens. I rotate the selector in position, once it's there there could be e.g. a green light with the icon of the function, and I would know it is ready to be used.
@@RacingBrick Yep, that's what I did for the Volvo and the light of the Pu-Remote.
Would be nice if you would test faster switching with pu :)
Is the delay the same in the Volvo gearbox?
Nice recap. Hope you feel better. I agree with much of what you said and really work a LEGO would do a better job of listening regards the App. Your suggests (x-ray) make a lot of sense. I will probably get the set because I like the Technic building process.
I wanted to buy the Liebherr before it was discontinued but unfortunately was out of stock every where I looked. super bummed
Thanks for the thorough 2 part review RavingBrick. I'm real interested in this set, sure it's a bit on the pricey side but the build looks interesting. Also both my kids can have a big machine eaxh rather than fighting over the Liebherr haha!
Hi. Thanks for the video. I would be interested to hear from someone who did the test your build at the recommended step. When I do this, there seems to be a few errors in the app but until I'm sure I didn't want to advance the build. Most importantly, some of the 6. tests seem to move parts in different sequences than the test. Over the 6. tests all the parts move but in a different order. Only tests 4-5 (which control the tracks) move in the sequence suggested by the test. I have confirmed all the motors are plugged in where the instructions say. Is this just a mistake in their app or is something wrong? And if so, what? Second, the app shows the same part to check for the test in both steps 1 and 6 which I think is a mistake. Thanks.
Them things are pretty neat
For me the fun is building it, not playing with it. After building it I sell it and buy another one. 😊
I wonder if there is a way that we can modify the set to have to hubs and speed up the the blade functions as thats my to biggest pet paves about the set
It is certainly possible, but the whole thing could be done in a more compact size and then there'd be no need to add more motors just to handle the weight
A white dozer 🤩🥰😍🤗
As you mentioned it, there's a great view from inside the real thing - de CAT D11.
ruclips.net/video/sIwkUgwFPr4/видео.html
What do u do if it don’t want to calibrate to the control + app
How long is the calibration, ive sat here and waited for 10 minutes for something to happen, it only lifted the front blade and put it down, and nothing happened afterwards.
It might not run fully, you need to try again
Why are my controls not working on my phone?
A plus point of the application: no "achievements". A minus point of the app: no fart button.
I guess that's an effect of the "18+" pigeonhole...
I installed the lego control+ app when I bought the liebherr R 9800.I'm very happy with it.But I have a question.I'm planning to buy a new D11 bulldozer but I can't see it in the control+ app.I was looking for an update but couldn't find any.Is my phone old maybe or do I update the app after I buy the D11 set?Thank you for any advice.
Apparently the Android version was not updated yet, on iOS it's already available
@@RacingBrick thanky you
Why’s the horn “obligatory” ? Lego is obligated to add a horn? And they don’t have a choice?
Because they always add a horn to the Control+ profiles, like this was a function anyone ever would use
Hope u get better soon 👍
Just give us a freaking remote control, these apps ruin the whole experience.
The most shocking part of this video was that the Lego website actually had sets in stock…
Buy 2nd liebher and build the MOC from M_Longer
Can you post a link perhaps? Cheers bud
how long is the calibration?
few minutes or more with errors
Why did you mention how it would be for kids when its an 18+ set?
Regardless of the recommended age and the labels, it's still primarily a kid's toy. TLG is slapping the 18+ label nowadays on everything that can be potentially interesting for adult builders, but these sets are still mostly bought for kids, so their experience does matter.
@@RacingBrick fair, good on you for responding quickly, didn't expect that.
Not being able to control blade and ripper during drive is a HUGE Bummer! That's not how its supposed to be! Just gives the buy another hint its meant for kids!
You control the blade or the ripper during drive, but only one function at a time.
@@RacingBrick but its awfully slow. I was thinking to buy this for myself but by the looks of it doesn't feel its built for heavy duty :(
Switching between functions is very slow due to the gearbox operation, it is what it is. I suggest to wait for the next video if you're looking for a nice and playable dozer :)
@@RacingBrick i was looking into the D10T series of RC4WD but that thing costs several grands! Nowhere close to even my budget but it offer brute Force like no other!
lol that's a very different universe :D the RC4WD shop is full of fantastic stuff, but sooo expensive unfortunately.
Am I first Who watch this?
yes and im third
It just doesn’t look very fun. Perhaps there will be some great Alt-builds for this one but until then it’s a pass for me.
The winner i liebherr
I'm sure MK did his best designing this set, but one knows from the start the set is not focused on playability when the box says 18+. Ripper should have been able to dig in the dirt with some strong worm gear mechanism and not stop above ground and tipper should have been able to lift + tilt while simultaneously driving. In fact this bulldozer should have gotten the same kind of one motor per function like the Liebherr did to make it authentic and functional like Technic sets should be. So comparing it to 8275 it's a downgrade.
"for the kids" i dont think kids should use this... functions are kinda slow and well.. kids are impatient. chances are this here set aint gonna last 15 minutes after a kid plays with it
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How long does the calibration go for