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hi my name is hector nosaka i have two offices in mexico. one in mexico city and the other in Celaya . i started as a general denist. referred many cases to specialist but the results I got from them were not good. So I decided to do it myself.I emulated a close friend of mine thath finished the prosthodontist specialty in japan but kept studing endodontics in continuing education courses. I did the same but went to the continuing education department at UCLA.For us mexicans its very expensive but I did the effort and finished a very complete course in endodontics, implantology, occlusion to an advanced level, miniresidency in sleep dentistry, cosmetic dentistry, 3 years diplomate course in orthodontics, went to germany to get the cerec trainer certificate and clear aligner training. Its been a long road but I think it paid off because I beleive everything I do in the office is predictable especially if you include occclusion (bite study) in all your treatments. The most imporant part of all these is that I enjoy my work much more than before and the patients benefefit from it not only in their oral health but their general health because a food balance in occlusion is very important for column position, breething and other health issues. I strongly beleive a general dentist can do more for their patients if he sees the whole picture of the mouth throat, neck, airway space and relationship between all the parts. I am also into alternative medicine so I would say my practice is a holistic one. congratulaions for your videos. you have a very open and sicere opinion of your experience and I think that will help many of our collegues.
Hector, thank you for sharing your experience. Your patients are genuinely fortunate to have a dentist like you. You have given your time, attention and money to better care for people and improve their lives. We can all learn from examples like yours. 🙏
A general dentist has to be a jack of all trades and handles a large variety of cases. A specialist does only one thing. Also, many specialists cannot support an office themselves, they need to share overhead with a group or another dentist. Plus, many general dentists have a preferred area they like to do like endo, ortho, prosto or pediatric. For us, we do a lot of endo and prosto, but are looking at adding ortho as well. In the end, every dentist has to strike it out on their own and build their own following. It almost doesn't matter what you do, it's how your patient pool responds to you.
I'm a pre-med/pre-dental student, so I'm still having trouble deciding between the two. I've seriously been leaning more towards dentistry. There definitely is a fear that I won't be able to specialize because of scores, but I still have a long way to go. I think videos with specialists would be great! This is the first video I've watched of yours. Keep up the great work!
Med if you can get in, higher long term earning potential for medical specialists compared to dental specialists, (excluding oral surgery). And family medicine can out earn a general dentist without that much more effort and stress. Another big pro over dentistry (which is another hard pill to swallow for most) is that you rarely have to sell medicine and patients are almost always grateful for your work and medicine is always going to be in demand. In dentistry many patients shop around and are not appreciative of what you've done for them (unless you get them out of pain) you will be hearing alot of "I hate going to dentist" and frequently there will be people squirming white knuckled in the chair putting you in alot of stress trying to manage their discomfort and do highly precise clinical work at the same time. Like the video mentioned, the cons for dental specialists is certainly a shorter one. I personally find the endodontist lifestyle very appealing as your day to day revolves around relieving people of pain. You are also better compensated for doing the same work a GP does. I didn't write this to dissuade you from dentistry but I can't help but notice that many dental forums like Dental town (although a great resource) only really focus on the negative aspects of medicine.
@@MrGW2fanboy Your post brings up some very good points, and the med vs. dent decision has been extremely difficult for me to resolve. If you do not mind me asking, what other lines of thinking helped you commit to one field or the other? I have extensive shadowing in both fields, and I am still finding it difficult to feel good about letting one of them go.
@@rodinjones2625honestly imo choose whatever interests you more because although the lifestyle can certainly be better as a dentist you can still be miserable everyday if you don't like the work. I haven't even made up my own mind yet, I am going to still try for med whilst continuing dent school and if I can't get in so be it I'll stick with dent which I don't mind. Many people ask me why and it's mainly because I find med more interesting, particularly when it concerns molecular biology and immunology. I really enjoyed learning about cellular mechanisms and their interconnectedness to pathology in my undergrad and it's cool that you can specialise in that field. Another key reason is my neck and my back, they're already not that great and I'm worried about chronic pain when I'm older. I don't mind teeth, although the content is a little dry at times it can be fun. I haven't done much clinical work or worked on patients yet however I enjoy manipulating objects and materials to serve a functional benefit. I can see myself doing general dentistry but not for a long time, I am trying to keep my GPA up so that specialising can be an option for me after some experience as a GD. I am not in the US so we have to practice 2 years here as a GD before applying for a 3 year speciality program for $150k.
It's fantastic to hear your genuine opinion on this issue (and others). I'm starting dental school this August and really appreciate your perspective on practicing dentistry.
Michael that's such a great question. I went into it a little bit on another video "Is Dental School Worth It?" Long story short, the debt is very high. If you hustle, it can still work out, but it's harder than it used to be. The career itself is still good, but you are right the debt can be a big issue. Most dental students going to school now will probably end up doing REPAYE. Military or HPSP scholarships are definitely the way to go now if you can get one of those. The debt is definitely a personal question everyone has to answer on their own. I hope in the future schools can see how much of a burden it is for their graduates.
I actually opted to reapply to dental school after getting into an expensive private school out of state. Luckily I got accepted to my state school the second time around... Didn't get the HPSP scholarship I applied for, though. But I still saved a good $200,000 by waiting a year to attend my state school..
Thank you for the great channel! I look forward to watching the interviews, particularly with the orofacial pain, sleep medicine, and oral medicine specialists.
Stumbled upon this as I am considering specialising - thanks for sharing your personal experience and being an inspiration for other dentists! Would love to hear more from you :)
Thanks for the great video! Would love to hear from Dr. Jarod about what are some of the biggest challenges about being a pediatric dentist and what kind of settings they tend to work in (group practice, solo, public health, etc)
Update!! Dr. Jarod Johnson and I are planning a video in the near future and we need YOUR questions! Jarod is a pediatric dentist and also teaches some CE. Drop your questions for Jarod in the comments below!
I am an endodontist for over 15 years and I am thinking to go back to general dentistry. Reasons: being bored, being frustrated with delivering a good foundation and then seeing poor dentistry placed on top of this.
@@is-cy3zo Actually if I could turn back time to when I was 18, I would probably choose a completely different field. Probably something more of the likes of chemistry.
Thanks for the insight! Sorry to comment on an older video, but I'm curious about your thoughts on specializing as a non-trad student. Is there a graduation age where you think it may be less worth specializing with the possibility of a shorter career (assuming you aren't practicing in your 80s)?
Hey Matthew! Honestly, if specialization is an option, the payoff is probably pretty quick (depending on the specialty). For example, I would guess the average endodontists makes 2x the average dentist.
I just don't understand one thing; you said your main deter from not specializing is your GPA/class rank; however, there is even international dentists who got into perio, ortho, endo (at least what I have seen so far). I really do not understand how this work but in my residency I had classmates who had no US DDS at all and their part I and II were pass/fail. Nothing really special other than they kept doing observerships or fellowships. Try that if you really want to specialize.
How about Neuromasculat dentistry as specialty? What is the difference betwwen TMJ specialist, Neuromuscular denist and Orofacial pain specialist? Can one spwcialist do all three, or do they all have to go their own ways?
Great Video! definitely agree with you, specialists are not going away. What are your thoughts on being a travelling specialist? Have you ever worked with one in your practice? I'm applying for perio with the intention of doing that hopefully.
Umer Seyd Thanks so much! I know a couple of orthodontists that have a "satellite office" where they rent a couple chairs one day a week from a general dentist, but bring their own staff and supplies. I thought about trying to bring in an endodontist, but I don't think I could keep him busy enough. Some specialists definitely make the travelling model work; the biggest thing is having a way to deal with post-op complications. That's more of an issue for OS, but I would think perio would have that too. It is doable though, from what I have seen.
its still not too late for even you to do a specialty! my roommate actually came back to school to do a prosthodontics residency after 9 years of practicing ;)!
In Korea we don’t really use the terms, specialist & general dentist because all dentists are specialists. I am in Australia and I have to see general dentists and the skill sets are embarrassing.
I'm 18 years old just going to community college. I want to transfer to a 4 year after 2 years. Right now I'm very interested in becoming a dentist since my uncle is also a dentist and they make good money. But I've heard that schooling will be long and expensive (300k+). I don't know for sure if dentistry is something I want to do. I've heard people say that there are easier ways to make money than a dentist. I'd like to get some people's opinions on my situation to understand what I would need to expect and if I really want to go into dentistry. So either convince me to go or not or just give me insightful knowledge if you can. Thanks!
Here’s a basic conclusion If you got the grades, good scores, and feel like you could specialize Do it If you wanna make money right out of school And don’t wanna go to school for a couple extra years Go general
Hi, I love your content doc! I have a question to ask. 3 years ago i chose dentistry over medicine. That day I'd had a neck pain and pain in the fingers of my right hand for a week. I thought, i didn't have any major problems with my neck before and I've been feeling this pain for a week so i didn't wanna decide against dentistry because of it. But unfortunately the pain hasn't gone away ever since. Doctor said it was probably a bad idea for me to choose dentistry because there should be a problem with my neck (herniated disc) and i went for MRI and doctors said it's fine and i need physical therapy and it helped but after six months the pain came back. My therapist said it's not a big deal just stiffness and trigger points. It's not severe but even walking or standing triggers it. Both stiffness and pain in neck and pain in the fingers of my right hand. Now I have 3 more years to finish dental school and I'm not even sure if i can become a dentist or not. Or even if i should quit or not. I don't even know if it's too late for me to get into med school. It's really hard (if possible) to do that now. I feel like i made a huge mistake. I'm 21. How serious do you think it is? Should i quit dental school? Some people say dental radiology is a good choice for me but in order to make enough money to own my own dental radiography clinic i need to work as a general dentist for some time and artificial intelligence is kind of getting really good at x-ray diagnosis already which is a threat. It means a lot if you answer.
Hi Pedram, thank you for reaching out. It is hard for me to say exactly what to do in your situation, but a clear MRI is very good news. I will tell you, my second year in practice I had a ton of pain in my right hand at the end of the day, almost every day, and working through it must have strengthened that hand because 10 years later, it's fine. Of course, every situation is different, but I would not jump right to quitting school. You could try working out, yoga, stretching, etc. and may see some improvement. If you go to my channel page, then the "About" tab, my personal email is there. Feel free to reach out any time.
I’m scheduled 32 clinical hours, 4 days per week. As far as managing the office goes, I try to squeeze most of that in during the day that I can, it maybe takes an extra hour a day or less. Sometimes if there is something big going on, like we change practice management software or something like that, I’ll have to spend more time in the office, but all in all it’s pretty close to 35-40 hours a week average.
I'm planning to immigrate to the us, I'm an experienced dentist in brazil (9 years of work here) and want to know is it important to study a specialty or I can just work with what am good at? Hope you answer my question
If you can get a US license (some schools have a 3 year program for dentists immigrating to the US), you can definitely work with what you are good at! One of the best dentists in my class was an experienced dentist from Vietnam, and he is a general dentist in the US now.
I live in dubai I know its nothing like the US but I just find it interesting that Orthodontists make more than oral surgeon lol idk what was the reason for that
Do you think there will be a noticeable difference in a root canal treatment if it is performed by a general dentist who has experience, compared to an endodologist?
There are some very good general dentists who do root canals, but from what I see on average, an endodontist will do a better root canal than most general dentists. I think there is research that shows higher success rates in endo done by specialists.
If you are a general dentist that performs root canal’s, you will be held to the standard of care in your area. As a specialist, I send all of my root canals to an endodontist.
I do think corporations will be more common in the future. A lot of that is driven by the fact that fewer dentists coming out of dental school want to own. Some people work for corporations and do like it, I know not all corps are equal. If you want to be a solo owner, I think there still is some opportunity, especially if you like small town life. I'm not as worried about corporations being as harmful to the profession as I am about the massive student loans it takes to be a dentist. Good luck!!
Only the under performing offices need to worry. Great customer service with a few business skill will win every time. There are advantages of being solo me ho, so capitalize on them.
All the marketing done towards students is gearing you for corporate dentistry like it or not. You probably don’t even recognize it. It’s being sold you by different names. Work life balance, why have all the headaches of running a practice when you can make great money with zero skin in the game. But in the end you’ll make 25 to 30 percent what you could have made.
If you are already a dentist, I would think ortho would be a much better bang for your buck. In the US, ENT is a 5 year residency after 4 years of med school. Good luck!
Great video, doc. Yes, please bring in a dental pathologist for an interview. It's hard to imagine how a dental radiologist would make money. Do dental anestheologists have to move from one oral surgeon office to next?
I’m not 100% sure about dental anesthesiology, I think you were right a lot of them would work in a big metropolitan area either for a large group, or do traveling. From what I understand, dental radiology is a really cool field where you can work from anywhere with Internet access, but I think the pay ceiling is low compared to even general dentistry; a lot of them work for dental schools as well.
Love the content doctor! Honest, clear to the point and really informative. Do you have an Instagram or other social media that we can connect with you on?
Thanks Alex! I have an Instagram (lifebehindtheloupes) and Facebook (beyond dentistry) that I repost some of the content too. Honestly most of what I do is just on RUclips!
Great, I'd love to reach out to you. One of the best content creators out there honestly, not just from a information point of view but also production quality.
Absolutely, it is possible. There is a dentist near me that is both a periodontist and an endodontist. Perio/pros is also a good combo. There are not a lot of dentists that do dual specialty, but you certainly can if you want to.
It depends on the governing laws of the state you are in. Some states you can only have one specialty license. But you can always state that you have been trained and have a specialty certification in both. You don’t have to hide your education. Having more initials won’t guarantee a higher income. Having business skills will.
A private practice doing 8 root canals a day? That seems more like a commercial level dental office. I’ve interned at a private practice but maybe it was so private that it was considered local. Not sure
One of my good friends is a periodontist, I will try to get him on for an interview sometime! Perio is a great profession. One thing cool about perio vs other specialties is that you have long-term patients, if you like that human connection aspect of healthcare. Other specialties like endo are kind of a one-and-done type interaction. Some people like that better, it really depends on your personality. Good luck!
People go to college for 4 years to make 100k, 4 more years (dental school) to double it to 200k, why not go another 2 years to double it if not 5x it. 400k to million plus. How you build your systems will determine where you end up financially more than if you’re a specialist. Pediatric dentist.
That is a really good point about systems. I don’t know if anyone in the industry who is very successful as a general dentist that doesn’t have great systems.
@@pikusarker1359 Depends a lot on the year. This year is going to be rough because of the shutdown. The "average" dentist in the US is around the 160ish range, and most years I would put myself somewhere near that. I also have to pay full price for my own health insurance, pay self-employment tax, etc., the short answer is "it depends" :)
@@AnPoleSports I don't think you would have a problem at all because of your age, 27 is young. I think the best thing to do would be to shadow residents and see if you think it would be a good fit for you. Good luck!
I am beginning to apply to colleges and am seeking to become an oral and maxillofacial surgeon or orthodontists but I am really unsure how to start my journey. Do I go straight to dental school or do I have to do pre-dentistry as a major in college? IDK help lol
I'm a 5th year dental student in Europe (1 more year to go) and I'm currently trying to decide between going into oral surgery or maxillofacial surgery. I know that for maxillofacial it is required to study both dental and general medicine, which is taking an eternity. What is your take on this? Would you recommend this to anyone? Do you have any colleges, that have persuited that speciality?
Wow congratulations on having such awesome choices! In the US, it sounds like it works a little bit differently. Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery (omfs) is one specialty here in the US. There is some overlap with ear nose and throat, and plastic surgery (there are oral and maxillofacial surgeons that do big facial reconstructions, rhinoplasties and other surgeries like that). Most oral surgeons, though, end up doing primarily wisdom teeth and implants and the occasional "big" case. To go into oral surgery after dental school here, it is either a 4 year residency or a 6 year residency - most of the 6 year residencies go to two years of medical school as part of the residency, but the specialty certificate is the same. In your case - here is just my opinion, based on what I see here in the US (it could be very different where you are): Oral Surgeons here make most of their money doing basic in-office procedures like extractions and implants. The "bigger" cases are more a calling/labor of love from what I have seen. They make a lot more per hour doing basic oral surgery procedures. But the oral surgeons that do those bigger cases take a ton of pride in their abilities, and it seems like they feel a sense of calling to their field, even though an 8 hour cancer reconstruction can sometimes pay the same as a 15 min third molar case. I think the best thing for you to do might be to talk to people in each field, and if you feel called in either direction then trust your inscint. The last thing I will say is that I have never met anyone in dentistry that regretted getting "too much" training, but I have met plenty of people who wish they would have done more specialized training. Good luck!
@@gunny05 In the US, I believe an MD oral surgeon can do anything under their scope of practice in a private office. Sometimes, a hospital is better for larger surgical cases, if the patient might need to be admitted.
Hey Kolawole! In the US, dentistry is completely separate from medicine - even oral surgeons practice with a dental license. I do know of oral surgeons who did additional training in facial cosmetics so they do facelifts and other cosmetic procedures.
The first 2 years of Dentistry had same heath subjects with Podiatric Med School(Anatomy, Biochem, Microbiology, Pharmacology) so if you want to enroll in Podiatric Med School👣 then you can proceed to the major subjects which is usually at 3rd year(as advantage, your schooling years are reduced). After becoming a Podiatrist, you can specialize to Sports Medicine, Podiatric Dermatology, etc...)
oh this really helped! i just have a question about a general dentist education? which degrees did you have to take? i’m really interested in become a general dentist, so i wanna learn more about the education.
In the US, most people have a bachelors degree before dental school. Mine is in biochemistry. But as long as you take the specific classes you need (Physics, biology, general and organic chemistry), And take the DAT, you can technically start dental school without having to get a degree first. Then dental school is another four years. But that’s only for the US and Canada, other countries have a different process, so it depends on where you are. Thanks!
There really isn't a "bottom" of specialized dentists. Statistically, pediatric dentistry is less competitive than ortho, endo and oral surgery. Also, pediatric dentists operate a lot like general dentists with a hygiene department and operative columns. Even still, the pediatric dentists that I know do very well financially (above most general dentists), and seem to be more fulfilled in their careers than a lot of general dentists that I know.
@@BeyondDentistry hey doc! I’m in SE Michigan. I work as a hygienist but plan to go back for dental school. You ever allow for any pre-dents to shadow you?
One of the best parts of certain specialties (endo for example) is being able to sit down and do one procedure start to finish without being interrupted. Endo does have "consults" but they are not as frequent as hygiene checks (on a busy day, I will have close to 20 hygiene checks)
Yikes, I’m sorry to hear that. Do you think it was the culture of the residency? I can’t imagine being treated like that while putting up with 80 hour weeks.
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@@BeyondDentistry it was a chain of hate where the bigger fish eats the lesser one masked with the "I was treated worse so dont even complain" attitude. Could be just this program or a culture within surgical residencies
Graduated middle of my class. Applied to 4 specialties and interviewed for 2. Miracles can happen!
You are honestly becoming one of my favorite channels on RUclips!
Jack Thanks so much, sincerely!!!
Wow my two favorite youtubers in one comment section. Let me soak this in 😂
@@tommathew7054 my thoughts exactly! haha :)
Interviews with specialists would be amazing!
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Thank you for giving us insight on the specialities! I would love to see you interview other specialists or general dentists!
Thanks so much for the feedback!! Looking forward to some interviews in the future!
Always good to see healthcare youtubers.
hi my name is hector nosaka
i have two offices in mexico. one in mexico city and the other in Celaya .
i started as a general denist. referred many cases to specialist but the results I got from them were not good. So I decided to do it myself.I emulated a close friend of mine thath finished the prosthodontist specialty in japan but kept studing endodontics in continuing education courses.
I did the same but went to the continuing education department at UCLA.For us mexicans its very expensive but I did the effort and finished a very complete course in endodontics, implantology, occlusion to an advanced level, miniresidency in sleep dentistry, cosmetic dentistry, 3 years diplomate course in orthodontics, went to germany to get the cerec trainer certificate and clear aligner training. Its been a long road but I think it paid off because I beleive everything I do in the office is predictable especially if you include occclusion (bite study) in all your treatments. The most imporant part of all these is that I enjoy my work much more than before and the patients benefefit from it not only in their oral health but their general health because a food balance in occlusion is very important for column position, breething and other health issues.
I strongly beleive a general dentist can do more for their patients if he sees the whole picture of the mouth throat, neck, airway space and relationship between all the parts. I am also into alternative medicine so I would say my practice is a holistic one.
congratulaions for your videos. you have a very open and sicere opinion of your experience and I think that will help many of our collegues.
Hector, thank you for sharing your experience. Your patients are genuinely fortunate to have a dentist like you. You have given your time, attention and money to better care for people and improve their lives. We can all learn from examples like yours. 🙏
Hi Hector 👋🏻
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A general dentist has to be a jack of all trades and handles a large variety of cases. A specialist does only one thing. Also, many specialists cannot support an office themselves, they need to share overhead with a group or another dentist. Plus, many general dentists have a preferred area they like to do like endo, ortho, prosto or pediatric. For us, we do a lot of endo and prosto, but are looking at adding ortho as well. In the end, every dentist has to strike it out on their own and build their own following. It almost doesn't matter what you do, it's how your patient pool responds to you.
Which country do u live?
Here in the Philippines, dental specialty doesnt matter
I'm a pre-med/pre-dental student, so I'm still having trouble deciding between the two. I've seriously been leaning more towards dentistry. There definitely is a fear that I won't be able to specialize because of scores, but I still have a long way to go. I think videos with specialists would be great! This is the first video I've watched of yours. Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much!! I am trying to learn more about the medical field right now, I really want to do a dentistry vs. medicine video in the near future!
dentists work less (and earn more per hour worked)
less time in school (4-7 years, while medicine is 7-12 years)
and it is a bit less competitive
Med if you can get in, higher long term earning potential for medical specialists compared to dental specialists, (excluding oral surgery). And family medicine can out earn a general dentist without that much more effort and stress. Another big pro over dentistry (which is another hard pill to swallow for most) is that you rarely have to sell medicine and patients are almost always grateful for your work and medicine is always going to be in demand.
In dentistry many patients shop around and are not appreciative of what you've done for them (unless you get them out of pain) you will be hearing alot of "I hate going to dentist" and frequently there will be people squirming white knuckled in the chair putting you in alot of stress trying to manage their discomfort and do highly precise clinical work at the same time.
Like the video mentioned, the cons for dental specialists is certainly a shorter one. I personally find the endodontist lifestyle very appealing as your day to day revolves around relieving people of pain. You are also better compensated for doing the same work a GP does.
I didn't write this to dissuade you from dentistry but I can't help but notice that many dental forums like Dental town (although a great resource) only really focus on the negative aspects of medicine.
@@MrGW2fanboy Your post brings up some very good points, and the med vs. dent decision has been extremely difficult for me to resolve. If you do not mind me asking, what other lines of thinking helped you commit to one field or the other? I have extensive shadowing in both fields, and I am still finding it difficult to feel good about letting one of them go.
@@rodinjones2625honestly imo choose whatever interests you more because although the lifestyle can certainly be better as a dentist you can still be miserable everyday if you don't like the work. I haven't even made up my own mind yet, I am going to still try for med whilst continuing dent school and if I can't get in so be it I'll stick with dent which I don't mind. Many people ask me why and it's mainly because I find med more interesting, particularly when it concerns molecular biology and immunology. I really enjoyed learning about cellular mechanisms and their interconnectedness to pathology in my undergrad and it's cool that you can specialise in that field. Another key reason is my neck and my back, they're already not that great and I'm worried about chronic pain when I'm older. I don't mind teeth, although the content is a little dry at times it can be fun. I haven't done much clinical work or worked on patients yet however I enjoy manipulating objects and materials to serve a functional benefit. I can see myself doing general dentistry but not for a long time, I am trying to keep my GPA up so that specialising can be an option for me after some experience as a GD. I am not in the US so we have to practice 2 years here as a GD before applying for a 3 year speciality program for $150k.
It's fantastic to hear your genuine opinion on this issue (and others). I'm starting dental school this August and really appreciate your perspective on practicing dentistry.
Thanks so much!! Good luck this fall! It's still a great career.
Beyond Dentistry even with all the debt?
Michael that's such a great question. I went into it a little bit on another video "Is Dental School Worth It?"
Long story short, the debt is very high. If you hustle, it can still work out, but it's harder than it used to be. The career itself is still good, but you are right the debt can be a big issue. Most dental students going to school now will probably end up doing REPAYE. Military or HPSP scholarships are definitely the way to go now if you can get one of those.
The debt is definitely a personal question everyone has to answer on their own. I hope in the future schools can see how much of a burden it is for their graduates.
I actually opted to reapply to dental school after getting into an expensive private school out of state. Luckily I got accepted to my state school the second time around... Didn't get the HPSP scholarship I applied for, though. But I still saved a good $200,000 by waiting a year to attend my state school..
That's awesome to hear!! I didn't get into my state school, but it would have been a ton cheaper.
Thank you for the great channel! I look forward to watching the interviews, particularly with the orofacial pain, sleep medicine, and oral medicine specialists.
BDS student here. Love how honest you are. Subscribed❤❤
Stumbled upon this as I am considering specialising - thanks for sharing your personal experience and being an inspiration for other dentists! Would love to hear more from you :)
Thanks so much! And thank you for the encouragement, I should have a couple more videos out soon.
Definitely a much needed discussion. Great content as usually
Thanks for the great video! Would love to hear from Dr. Jarod about what are some of the biggest challenges about being a pediatric dentist and what kind of settings they tend to work in (group practice, solo, public health, etc)
Thanks Emily! I'm really hoping to have Dr. Jarod on again, and will pass those questions along!!
I stumbled upon this channel from dental town 😊 and I must say that I am not disappointed. You make wonderful videos.
Update!! Dr. Jarod Johnson and I are planning a video in the near future and we need YOUR questions! Jarod is a pediatric dentist and also teaches some CE. Drop your questions for Jarod in the comments below!
I am an endodontist for over 15 years and I am thinking to go back to general dentistry. Reasons: being bored, being frustrated with delivering a good foundation and then seeing poor dentistry placed on top of this.
If you can bring back time, would you switch to medschool instead? Or chose being an orthodontist instead?
@@is-cy3zo Actually if I could turn back time to when I was 18, I would probably choose a completely different field. Probably something more of the likes of chemistry.
@@RafaelMichiels why ?
What do you mean by this? Can you be a little more specific?
Get ready to reduce your life style.
Thnx dr
We will be waiting for the interview between generalist and specialist
great video, needed this as motivation to get through ochem in undergrad!
Great video! Excited to hear from future guests on their input about specializing.
Angel J thanks!! I have a couple people in mind!
Nice. Great video. I am an endodontist and I like it. Endo-one love!!!
Awesome! Thank you!
great content, Dr White. Love it!
Thanks so much!!
Love this channel!
Thank you!
Great video! I'm interested in specializing so I think interviews is a cool idea
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Thank you very much for this video! It's very informative. Also, I say yes to the interviews!
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Thanks for the insight! Sorry to comment on an older video, but I'm curious about your thoughts on specializing as a non-trad student. Is there a graduation age where you think it may be less worth specializing with the possibility of a shorter career (assuming you aren't practicing in your 80s)?
Hey Matthew! Honestly, if specialization is an option, the payoff is probably pretty quick (depending on the specialty). For example, I would guess the average endodontists makes 2x the average dentist.
These videos are fantastic.
Thanks RevUp!!
I just don't understand one thing; you said your main deter from not specializing is your GPA/class rank; however, there is even international dentists who got into perio, ortho, endo (at least what I have seen so far). I really do not understand how this work but in my residency I had classmates who had no US DDS at all and their part I and II were pass/fail. Nothing really special other than they kept doing observerships or fellowships. Try that if you really want to specialize.
How about Neuromasculat dentistry as specialty? What is the difference betwwen TMJ specialist, Neuromuscular denist and Orofacial pain specialist? Can one spwcialist do all three, or do they all have to go their own ways?
Great Video! definitely agree with you, specialists are not going away. What are your thoughts on being a travelling specialist? Have you ever worked with one in your practice? I'm applying for perio with the intention of doing that hopefully.
Umer Seyd Thanks so much!
I know a couple of orthodontists that have a "satellite office" where they rent a couple chairs one day a week from a general dentist, but bring their own staff and supplies. I thought about trying to bring in an endodontist, but I don't think I could keep him busy enough.
Some specialists definitely make the travelling model work; the biggest thing is having a way to deal with post-op complications. That's more of an issue for OS, but I would think perio would have that too. It is doable though, from what I have seen.
@@BeyondDentistry Thanks for sharing your thoughts Adam!
Would love to come on!
Yyeesssss!!! Let’s book it!
its still not too late for even you to do a specialty! my roommate actually came back to school to do a prosthodontics residency after 9 years of practicing ;)!
I love it!! What a cool story!
In Korea we don’t really use the terms, specialist & general dentist because all dentists are specialists. I am in Australia and I have to see general dentists and the skill sets are embarrassing.
This is south or north?
Are dentists not good in Australia?
you can do orthodontics without the speciality? :O in my country you have to have speciality to move teeth in any way
Yes. In the Philippines a barber can place braces too
@@is-cy3zo oh my god, poor orthodontist who must then repair their mistakes
I'm 18 years old just going to community college. I want to transfer to a 4 year after 2 years. Right now I'm very interested in becoming a dentist since my uncle is also a dentist and they make good money. But I've heard that schooling will be long and expensive (300k+). I don't know for sure if dentistry is something I want to do. I've heard people say that there are easier ways to make money than a dentist. I'd like to get some people's opinions on my situation to understand what I would need to expect and if I really want to go into dentistry. So either convince me to go or not or just give me insightful knowledge if you can. Thanks!
what did you do
Sir so is pediatric dentist a good future
Here’s a basic conclusion
If you got the grades, good scores, and feel like you could specialize
Do it
If you wanna make money right out of school
And don’t wanna go to school for a couple extra years
Go general
Hi, I love your content doc! I have a question to ask. 3 years ago i chose dentistry over medicine. That day I'd had a neck pain and pain in the fingers of my right hand for a week. I thought, i didn't have any major problems with my neck before and I've been feeling this pain for a week so i didn't wanna decide against dentistry because of it. But unfortunately the pain hasn't gone away ever since. Doctor said it was probably a bad idea for me to choose dentistry because there should be a problem with my neck (herniated disc) and i went for MRI and doctors said it's fine and i need physical therapy and it helped but after six months the pain came back. My therapist said it's not a big deal just stiffness and trigger points. It's not severe but even walking or standing triggers it. Both stiffness and pain in neck and pain in the fingers of my right hand. Now I have 3 more years to finish dental school and I'm not even sure if i can become a dentist or not. Or even if i should quit or not. I don't even know if it's too late for me to get into med school. It's really hard (if possible) to do that now. I feel like i made a huge mistake. I'm 21. How serious do you think it is? Should i quit dental school? Some people say dental radiology is a good choice for me but in order to make enough money to own my own dental radiography clinic i need to work as a general dentist for some time and artificial intelligence is kind of getting really good at x-ray diagnosis already which is a threat. It means a lot if you answer.
Hi Pedram, thank you for reaching out. It is hard for me to say exactly what to do in your situation, but a clear MRI is very good news. I will tell you, my second year in practice I had a ton of pain in my right hand at the end of the day, almost every day, and working through it must have strengthened that hand because 10 years later, it's fine. Of course, every situation is different, but I would not jump right to quitting school. You could try working out, yoga, stretching, etc. and may see some improvement.
If you go to my channel page, then the "About" tab, my personal email is there. Feel free to reach out any time.
@@BeyondDentistry thanks for taking your time and answering. I will definitely keep that in mind 🙌🏼
How many hours a week do you spend working a week? Both managing the office and working on patients?
I’m scheduled 32 clinical hours, 4 days per week.
As far as managing the office goes, I try to squeeze most of that in during the day that I can, it maybe takes an extra hour a day or less. Sometimes if there is something big going on, like we change practice management software or something like that, I’ll have to spend more time in the office, but all in all it’s pretty close to 35-40 hours a week average.
I'm planning to immigrate to the us, I'm an experienced dentist in brazil (9 years of work here) and want to know is it important to study a specialty or I can just work with what am good at? Hope you answer my question
If you can get a US license (some schools have a 3 year program for dentists immigrating to the US), you can definitely work with what you are good at! One of the best dentists in my class was an experienced dentist from Vietnam, and he is a general dentist in the US now.
It depends on the country. In South America, especially in Colombia you need to be a specialist or you have no future at all
I live in dubai I know its nothing like the US
but I just find it interesting that Orthodontists make more than oral surgeon lol idk what was the reason for that
Business systems, 2 pts per hour vs 8 pts an hour.
Do you think there will be a noticeable difference in a root canal treatment if it is performed by a general dentist who has experience, compared to an endodologist?
There are some very good general dentists who do root canals, but from what I see on average, an endodontist will do a better root canal than most general dentists. I think there is research that shows higher success rates in endo done by specialists.
If you are a general dentist that performs root canal’s, you will be held to the standard of care in your area. As a specialist, I send all of my root canals to an endodontist.
do you think about corporate dentistry is a threat to the everyday general dentist and also new students that are bound to be general dentists ?
I do think corporations will be more common in the future. A lot of that is driven by the fact that fewer dentists coming out of dental school want to own.
Some people work for corporations and do like it, I know not all corps are equal. If you want to be a solo owner, I think there still is some opportunity, especially if you like small town life.
I'm not as worried about corporations being as harmful to the profession as I am about the massive student loans it takes to be a dentist.
Good luck!!
Only the under performing offices need to worry. Great customer service with a few business skill will win every time. There are advantages of being solo me ho, so capitalize on them.
All the marketing done towards students is gearing you for corporate dentistry like it or not. You probably don’t even recognize it. It’s being sold you by different names. Work life balance, why have all the headaches of running a practice when you can make great money with zero skin in the game. But in the end you’ll make 25 to 30 percent what you could have made.
Im a dentist 32yo. Currently torn between choosing to specialize in orthodontics, or just go study medicine (dreaming of being an ent). Any opinion?
If you are already a dentist, I would think ortho would be a much better bang for your buck.
In the US, ENT is a 5 year residency after 4 years of med school. Good luck!
Go ortho.
Hey what would you say a general dentist takes home with one practice compared to orthodontist with a practice?
Any update on your opinions here 4 years later?
Great video, doc. Yes, please bring in a dental pathologist for an interview. It's hard to imagine how a dental radiologist would make money. Do dental anestheologists have to move from one oral surgeon office to next?
I’m not 100% sure about dental anesthesiology, I think you were right a lot of them would work in a big metropolitan area either for a large group, or do traveling.
From what I understand, dental radiology is a really cool field where you can work from anywhere with Internet access, but I think the pay ceiling is low compared to even general dentistry; a lot of them work for dental schools as well.
Love the content doctor! Honest, clear to the point and really informative. Do you have an Instagram or other social media that we can connect with you on?
Thanks Alex! I have an Instagram (lifebehindtheloupes) and Facebook (beyond dentistry) that I repost some of the content too. Honestly most of what I do is just on RUclips!
Great, I'd love to reach out to you. One of the best content creators out there honestly, not just from a information point of view but also production quality.
@@jeffogilvy5141 Awesome thanks! If you go to the About page my channel, my personal email is on there too.
hello Dr!! I just wanted to know if a dentist can have two specialties at the same time
Absolutely, it is possible. There is a dentist near me that is both a periodontist and an endodontist. Perio/pros is also a good combo. There are not a lot of dentists that do dual specialty, but you certainly can if you want to.
It depends on the governing laws of the state you are in. Some states you can only have one specialty license. But you can always state that you have been trained and have a specialty certification in both. You don’t have to hide your education. Having more initials won’t guarantee a higher income. Having business skills will.
A private practice doing 8 root canals a day? That seems more like a commercial level dental office. I’ve interned at a private practice but maybe it was so private that it was considered local. Not sure
Im looking to become a periodontist can u give me some insights on what i should exspect.
One of my good friends is a periodontist, I will try to get him on for an interview sometime!
Perio is a great profession. One thing cool about perio vs other specialties is that you have long-term patients, if you like that human connection aspect of healthcare. Other specialties like endo are kind of a one-and-done type interaction. Some people like that better, it really depends on your personality.
Good luck!
People go to college for 4 years to make 100k, 4 more years (dental school) to double it to 200k, why not go another 2 years to double it if not 5x it. 400k to million plus. How you build your systems will determine where you end up financially more than if you’re a specialist. Pediatric dentist.
That is a really good point about systems. I don’t know if anyone in the industry who is very successful as a general dentist that doesn’t have great systems.
Sir how much oral surgeons make after overhead costs? Nice video.
It really ranges but $300-500K is pretty common.
@@BeyondDentistry sir how much do you earn as a dentist now? Thank you very much.
@@pikusarker1359 Depends a lot on the year. This year is going to be rough because of the shutdown. The "average" dentist in the US is around the 160ish range, and most years I would put myself somewhere near that. I also have to pay full price for my own health insurance, pay self-employment tax, etc., the short answer is "it depends" :)
Hi, can we do dental specialization after working in general dentistry
Absolutely, there are a lot of dentists that go back for a specialty residency after working as a general dentist.
Is it financially viable to start a 4-year OMFS residency program at 56? 😅
If you have the energy for that at 56, I want to know your secret!! I don’t think I could’ve handled that at 26 😂
@@BeyondDentistry oh really?
I wanted to join next year at 27 cuz i wasent able , but now i'm, it's too late for me?
@@AnPoleSports I don't think you would have a problem at all because of your age, 27 is young. I think the best thing to do would be to shadow residents and see if you think it would be a good fit for you. Good luck!
Law of diminishing returns.
I am beginning to apply to colleges and am seeking to become an oral and maxillofacial surgeon or orthodontists but I am really unsure how to start my journey. Do I go straight to dental school or do I have to do pre-dentistry as a major in college? IDK help lol
Are you living in the US?
I'm a 5th year dental student in Europe (1 more year to go) and I'm currently trying to decide between going into oral surgery or maxillofacial surgery. I know that for maxillofacial it is required to study both dental and general medicine, which is taking an eternity. What is your take on this? Would you recommend this to anyone? Do you have any colleges, that have persuited that speciality?
Wow congratulations on having such awesome choices! In the US, it sounds like it works a little bit differently.
Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery (omfs) is one specialty here in the US. There is some overlap with ear nose and throat, and plastic surgery (there are oral and maxillofacial surgeons that do big facial reconstructions, rhinoplasties and other surgeries like that). Most oral surgeons, though, end up doing primarily wisdom teeth and implants and the occasional "big" case. To go into oral surgery after dental school here, it is either a 4 year residency or a 6 year residency - most of the 6 year residencies go to two years of medical school as part of the residency, but the specialty certificate is the same.
In your case - here is just my opinion, based on what I see here in the US (it could be very different where you are): Oral Surgeons here make most of their money doing basic in-office procedures like extractions and implants. The "bigger" cases are more a calling/labor of love from what I have seen. They make a lot more per hour doing basic oral surgery procedures.
But the oral surgeons that do those bigger cases take a ton of pride in their abilities, and it seems like they feel a sense of calling to their field, even though an 8 hour cancer reconstruction can sometimes pay the same as a 15 min third molar case.
I think the best thing for you to do might be to talk to people in each field, and if you feel called in either direction then trust your inscint. The last thing I will say is that I have never met anyone in dentistry that regretted getting "too much" training, but I have met plenty of people who wish they would have done more specialized training.
Good luck!
@@BeyondDentistry which one is better if you want to go to private practice can an md oral surgeon perform medical surgeries in a private practice ?
@@gunny05 In the US, I believe an MD oral surgeon can do anything under their scope of practice in a private office. Sometimes, a hospital is better for larger surgical cases, if the patient might need to be admitted.
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definitely bring the interviews!
I'll get working on it!! I have a couple people in mind, will have see what they think!
Can a dentist go into other specialties in medicine
Hey Kolawole! In the US, dentistry is completely separate from medicine - even oral surgeons practice with a dental license. I do know of oral surgeons who did additional training in facial cosmetics so they do facelifts and other cosmetic procedures.
The first 2 years of Dentistry had same heath subjects with Podiatric Med School(Anatomy, Biochem, Microbiology, Pharmacology) so if you want to enroll in Podiatric Med School👣 then you can proceed to the major subjects which is usually at 3rd year(as advantage, your schooling years are reduced). After becoming a Podiatrist, you can specialize to Sports Medicine, Podiatric Dermatology, etc...)
oh this really helped! i just have a question about a general dentist education? which degrees did you have to take? i’m really interested in become a general dentist, so i wanna learn more about the education.
In the US, most people have a bachelors degree before dental school. Mine is in biochemistry. But as long as you take the specific classes you need (Physics, biology, general and organic chemistry), And take the DAT, you can technically start dental school without having to get a degree first.
Then dental school is another four years. But that’s only for the US and Canada, other countries have a different process, so it depends on where you are. Thanks!
@@BeyondDentistry thank youu!! i’m from the US. i was really curious about it, i gotta start preparing😅.
You said, "even pediatric dentists..". Does this mean that pediatric dentists are the bottom of the specialized dentists?
There really isn't a "bottom" of specialized dentists.
Statistically, pediatric dentistry is less competitive than ortho, endo and oral surgery. Also, pediatric dentists operate a lot like general dentists with a hygiene department and operative columns.
Even still, the pediatric dentists that I know do very well financially (above most general dentists), and seem to be more fulfilled in their careers than a lot of general dentists that I know.
If making over 1 million a year is bottom, then I’m there.
Where do you practice?
I’m in Michigan north of Detroit
@@BeyondDentistry hey doc! I’m in SE Michigan. I work as a hygienist but plan to go back for dental school. You ever allow for any pre-dents to shadow you?
Im thinking of specialising. I’d expect an endontic dentist to have hygiene checks wivin their office. Sorry I can’t spell.
One of the best parts of certain specialties (endo for example) is being able to sit down and do one procedure start to finish without being interrupted. Endo does have "consults" but they are not as frequent as hygiene checks (on a busy day, I will have close to 20 hygiene checks)
Informative video. Can i refer you to a new directory for dentists to add your video? We can also send you the link by email.
Thank you for reaching out, that sounds great. My email is in the "about" section on the channel page. Thanks!
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Hi! Very useful video. I'm a dentistry student about to finish my studies and this is one of my biggest questions. I'm really confused - _-
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I quitted omfs becouse of the bullying from chief residents, not cool
Yikes, I’m sorry to hear that. Do you think it was the culture of the residency? I can’t imagine being treated like that while putting up with 80 hour weeks.
@@BeyondDentistry it was a chain of hate where the bigger fish eats the lesser one masked with the "I was treated worse so dont even complain" attitude. Could be just this program or a culture within surgical residencies
You should if you can.