How to install DIRECT DIE COOLER on Intel i9 13900K | EKWB Direct Die Liquid Cooling

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024

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  • @HuntsChris
    @HuntsChris Год назад +11

    If only we could actually get hold of one! I've been waiting since February with no updates from EK...

    • @Rashimotosan
      @Rashimotosan Год назад +1

      I got mine from performance PCs

    • @AlexanderDinebier
      @AlexanderDinebier Год назад +5

      Same. Waiting since 1st of February. First expected date of availability was 10th of February, then it changed to 17th of March. I contacted them a few days later and they don't have a date at all now.
      I asked them to at least send out the other parts i ordered, so the computer could be running without direct die for a while, but they really charge extra shipping for that. After waiting nearly 2 months now...
      Don't get me wrong, i like EK, especially their high quality products. But i would expect them to send the other stuff without extra charging money as soon as the waiting time is that much longer than initially told when buying the products.
      Since they refused to send the splitted order without charging additional money, i think it's fair to show it to everyone. Maybe they change that behaviour this way.

    • @UporaFilms
      @UporaFilms Год назад

      You should get it soon, I too ordered in feb, got it last night!

  • @kenw8875
    @kenw8875 Год назад +1

    delidded our i9 13900k cpu today. she's clean. now, we're integrating the EK Quantum Velocity2 Direct Die 1700, in preparation for install into an ASUS ROG Z790 Hero motherboard. this vid is super timely. many thanks!

    • @18266609
      @18266609 9 месяцев назад

      how did it turn out?

    • @kenw8875
      @kenw8875 9 месяцев назад

      perfect. the delid’d CPU and ekwb water block is a formidable wep

    • @TheFrayman
      @TheFrayman 5 месяцев назад

      @@kenw8875 temps?

    • @mehck2
      @mehck2 3 месяца назад

      @@kenw8875 how is your stability as far as crashes etc? get any memory issues or shader compile issues?

    • @kenw8875
      @kenw8875 3 месяца назад

      @@mehck2 to date, the chipset has performed well. maintaining 24C system temp, climbing to 26-28C during periods of large renders. happy to date!

  • @ReSpr1ng
    @ReSpr1ng Год назад +6

    Will there also be a direct die solution for the actual AM5 generation?

  • @SteinerSE
    @SteinerSE Год назад +2

    Eagerly awaiting the ability to delid and direct die my 7950x

  • @KFB1981
    @KFB1981 Год назад +2

    Very cool Video! EK, you make the coolest products out there!❤‍🔥🔥 But please, please please please.... a Monoblock for the ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X670E Extreme would be sooooo freaking awesome!🙏

  • @rossodelpadrone
    @rossodelpadrone Год назад +1

    A very informative video and definitely helpful. Congratulations!

  • @UporaFilms
    @UporaFilms Год назад +2

    I am having weird heating issues after installing. idle temps are 10-15 degrees hotter and it gets thermal throttle spikes at idle. I uninstalled it and the liquid metal is not making contact. I did tightened the die guard all the way tho, perhaps that might be why its not making good contact? I am reliding the ihs and retesting to make sure its not the cpu (praying its not bricked)

    • @PiotrKundu
      @PiotrKundu Год назад +1

      I had this issues on some cores of the AMD 7950X3D I delidedd. I used a regular EKWB AM5 Ryzen waterblock and the issues was than one of the 3 dies on the AMD did not contact, and those core got hot (it was one of the non 3D cached onces). To fix I run Cinebench and then adjusted the screw tension in the corner I got to much heat. It was nerve-racking, but it fixed the heat problem (and throttleling) issue. The 12th and 13th gen don't have mutliple CPU dies, but uneven screw tension could still affect even contact - it's a plaussible idea at least.

  • @rohannfraser8503
    @rohannfraser8503 2 месяца назад

    Did you stop selling the direct die products? The links you provided in the video description don't work....

  • @gardulla8596
    @gardulla8596 Год назад +1

    hey how about the 7950x direct die cooling with the quantum velocity 2 ? :(

  • @rossodelpadrone
    @rossodelpadrone Год назад +2

    What also interests me as a buyer of the EK-QuantumVelocity² Direct Die D-RGB - LGA 1700. With how many Nm that the guard can be tightened at maximum?
    According to the installation manual, the backplate may be tightened with a maximum of 0.6Nm.

    • @Rashimotosan
      @Rashimotosan Год назад +1

      Use their torque driver. It just does it for you. More people have had success with it than just tightening it regularly. It needs to be very specific or if won't make good contact

    • @PiotrKundu
      @PiotrKundu Год назад

      I would say 0.6Nm is quite a lot more than I would dear to tighten by hand without EKWB torque screw driver.

    • @juliangarcia6073
      @juliangarcia6073 9 месяцев назад

      is there any proof of stats of temps being different from the tightening? if so i would see why they wouldn't recommend a specific tightness @@PiotrKundu

    • @stefan691
      @stefan691 5 месяцев назад

      Where did find the 0.6 Nm in the manual? The original contact frame of the 8auer used 0.03 up to 0.06NM so 10-20x less force….
      I am also wondering how much force is needed on the EKWB ILM Replacement…can‘t find anything officially other than „Use EK Torque screw driver“….

  • @DJFLEXUK
    @DJFLEXUK Год назад +1

    We need AM5 Direct die cooling will EK be making a block please 🥺🥺

  • @dodomic6259
    @dodomic6259 8 месяцев назад

    Is the direct die upgrade kit compatible with momentum² monoblocks?

  • @thomaswilliams
    @thomaswilliams Год назад +3

    Please show AM5 Some love. I would love to De Lid my 7950x.

    • @AprilVic
      @AprilVic Год назад

      Agree. Currently possibly the only waterblock that would work on a direct die 7000 series is a Optimus waterblock and even if it says "in stock" and "ready to ship in xx days" you are expecting months of waiting and no customer service whatsoever. This leaves a great market opportunity for EK.

  • @rick5078
    @rick5078 11 месяцев назад +1

    The direct die upgrade kit isn't compatible with the velocity2 momentum monoblock for the rog Z790 hero, is it? Btw, wish you would create a similar monoblock for the rog Z790 hero, as you did for the ROG Maximus Z790 Extreme, which sadly is now discontinued and no longer available from reputable retailers.

    • @ColinDyckes
      @ColinDyckes 9 месяцев назад

      Can I L ask where you saw that the upgrade kit doesn't fit the Z790 Hero? I have the Velocity 2 block on my 13900K on the Z790 Hero and that fits perfectly with a contact frame, and have bought the DD upgrade kit for when I hopefully get a 14900KS soon 😊. I hope it does fit otherwise won't bother.

    • @rick5078
      @rick5078 9 месяцев назад

      @@ColinDyckes It was more of a question to ekwb than a statement. On the page of the dd upgrade kit it states in the "please note" section (the yellow box): "Compatible ONLY with a EK-Quantum Velocity² 1700 CPU water block". It is the emphasizing of the "only" in that statement which leads me to believe the dd upgrade kit is not compatible with the Z790 hero monoblock. I would love for EKWB to correct me on this though, as i would so much more prefer the z790 hero over the maximus z790 formula. (looking to build it into a desk using a waterchiller for cooling to avoid exposure to the salty sea air here which corrodes everything super fast. so i really want that watercooled power rail.) though looking at the monoblock and comparing it to the 1700 cpu block, the contact area "looks" identical to each other.

    • @ColinDyckes
      @ColinDyckes 9 месяцев назад

      @@rick5078 Ahh, OK, I misunderstood your question/statement. I have the Velocity 2 block and the upgrade kit. I guess the monoblock is different to the Velocity2 waterblock which definitely does fit the Z790 Hero as that's what I have run since the 13900K launch.

    • @rick5078
      @rick5078 9 месяцев назад

      @@ColinDyckes the monoblock is specifically made for the z790 hero, so I know the monoblock would definitely fit the motherboard. Question is, does the upgrade kit fit the monoblock and does it perform properly?

    • @DarrenHernandez-dn2fk
      @DarrenHernandez-dn2fk 7 месяцев назад

      I would also like to know this. I just ordered the z790 Maximus Formula VRM bridge. Hoping to direct die my 14900KS if the upgrade kit is compatible.

  • @austin_colt
    @austin_colt Год назад +2

    Are there revisions being made to these direct die kits to fix the contact issues?

    • @re11ek
      @re11ek Год назад

      As in the 113th gen "warping" contact issue? That should be fixed just by doing direct die cooling if I understand correctly, since the problem was the IHS bending.

    • @austin_colt
      @austin_colt Год назад

      @@re11ek No that's not what I mean. Apparently there's been multiple accounts of people having worse cooling after installing a direct die kit on a delidded chip. From what I understand, EK made the coldplate slightly convex like they would for a regular block coldplate to increase effectiveness on the concave IHS with the stock ILM. This makes direct die cooling worse since the flat die is against a convex surface. You can confirm this by looking at the coldplate in pictures with direct light. There is a point in the middle with rings around it. People believe this is why they keep pushing back the shipping dates. To fix this issue.

    • @EKWBofficial
      @EKWBofficial  Год назад

      We're investigating the issue. Some CPUs were affected and we're in the process of testing a solution for them. We will send out the solution to anyone that needs it to get the most out of their CPU.

    • @austin_colt
      @austin_colt Год назад

      @@EKWBofficial Yes there are some issues. Just tried the kit on my 13900KS and did not have good results. I went ahead and reached out to support regarding this issue.

    • @papusan...
      @papusan... 7 месяцев назад

      @@EKWBofficial Hi. Is the EK direct die kit fixed now and works as intended? Thanks

  • @bornagain2641
    @bornagain2641 Месяц назад

    id there anything different for 14th gen?

  • @CarlosDeBernardMrAgapi
    @CarlosDeBernardMrAgapi Год назад

    ILM Replacement 1700 only work for ek products. can not be use for aio nucleus or any other brand aios like asetek?

  • @kiwivda
    @kiwivda Год назад

    Can I upgrade a Velocity2 LGA1200 to a LGA1700 Direct die?

  • @nickcifarelli8887
    @nickcifarelli8887 Год назад

    Thank you Joe. Excellent video. what are the expected temp gains from De-lidding? even 3-4 degrees is significant.

    • @HD-nv9ru
      @HD-nv9ru Год назад +1

      77 degrees r23 stress test after 1 hour

    • @nickcifarelli8887
      @nickcifarelli8887 Год назад

      @@HD-nv9ru That is pretty significant

    • @PiotrKundu
      @PiotrKundu Год назад +2

      I'm delidding my 3rd CPU and I would say 10-15C is what you should expect to gain.

  • @monelliNicolas
    @monelliNicolas Год назад +1

    I’ve installed it and you have to better tighten the water block, not as on video. And still temperatures in bios are 88-92 degrees….it seems mine is broken or something.
    I’ve tried to install it 15 times - half of the attempts CPU a code 00, another half - to tight…it’s very hard to install the ILS and water block properly….

    • @tdog13
      @tdog13 Год назад

      I am so glad I saw this post. I have an i9-12900K with the direct die. I only get Code 00. Motherboard is powered. code 00, all fans on, but no post! I am assume no contact with the die, I have tried reseating etc.. Now I am going to go back to my original IHS cooler! Thanks for post showing that others may encounter this issue!

    • @monelliNicolas
      @monelliNicolas Год назад

      @@tdog13 there is an issue in die guard contact frame - they’ve replaced it and now it works fine for me. So raise a support ticket - they should send the replacement.

  • @benjaminramsdell8825
    @benjaminramsdell8825 Год назад

    I've ordered the upgrade kit for the V2 block on 3-7 in anticipation of it being available on 3-17(per the web site). It is now 3-31 and my order has not been processed. I've reached out to EK via email and have not received a reply on an updated ETA.

    • @StuartBoyer
      @StuartBoyer Год назад

      It may be delayed due to many users like me pointing out a manufacturing issue that is causing them to not work right, also the tool they make is no good.

    • @samno90
      @samno90 Год назад

      @@StuartBoyer I just got mine tested, The cpu goes to 100c with only 150w powerdraw

  • @fairycat
    @fairycat Год назад +1

    I didn't understund if it will be some temperature test?

  • @rossodelpadrone
    @rossodelpadrone Год назад +3

    The Direct Dei cooler does not work!
    In the meantime I have disassembled my PC six times to find the problem of the Direct DEI cooler. And believe me, it's not easy and it's not fun at all. It's not a test setup where some product videos are created.
    The installation of the Direct DEI cooler was carried out exactly according to the operating instructions and videos from EKBW and Roman.
    Ultimately, the Direct DEI cooler does not make contact with the decapitated CPU. Checked this out by removing the liquid metal on the Direct DEI cooler. I screwed on the frame and the cooler with different values. 0.30, 0.40, 0.50 and 0.60 Nm.
    Additionally, I also removed the Protection FOAM from the board. But unfortunately also no contact between Direct DEI cooler and CPU. It looks like the frame is too high.
    In the course of the six modifications, I also took a closer look at the frame. The protective foil attached to the underside was glued crookedly and thus caused a bulge to form when screwing. With the result that the frame was not plan. At this point I started the verification as described above.
    Why it worked halfway after the initial installation. But that still means that the temperature of the CPU in idle was about 20 degrees warmer than with my AIO Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360. It was because I applied too much liquid metal to both sides, CPU and Direct DEI cooler. So some heat could be dissipated.
    For the test, I temporarily removed the protective film from the frame to check whether there was now contact between the Direct DEI cooler and the beheaded i9-13900KS. Liquid metal was only applied to the DEI (CPU). Frame and Direct DEI were tightened with 0.4 Nm. After removal, no transfer of liquid metal could be detected on the cold plate of the Direct DEI!
    The same procedure again but now with 0.60Nm - unfortunately also negative!
    I wrote to EKWB on April 27, 2023. Unfortunately no response yet. I hope that I will get a positive answer on May 3rd, 2023!

    • @rossodelpadrone
      @rossodelpadrone Год назад +1

      EKWB informed me today that I will get a new frame (die guard) and a new ILM protective film. Information follows."

    • @Glaceon_Shiny
      @Glaceon_Shiny Год назад

      ​@RossoDelPadrone hi any information about your process? I am not sure if I want to risk my 13900ks if it's not working

    • @TinyChrisTV
      @TinyChrisTV Год назад +3

      @@Glaceon_Shiny Replacement also does not work.

    • @juliangarcia6073
      @juliangarcia6073 9 месяцев назад

      youre not even the same guy dude @@TinyChrisTV

    • @juliangarcia6073
      @juliangarcia6073 9 месяцев назад

      any updates? @@rossodelpadrone I hear mix reviews depending on installation too.

  • @soobyt
    @soobyt 8 месяцев назад

    Yesterday I noticed that my CPU 13900k was getting 100 degrees. I use 3x480 64 mm radiators and have installed the EK-Quantum Velocity² D-RGB - 1200 nickel. Before that, the CPU ran at a maximum of 65 degrees in the stress test. I cleaned everything and still have the same problem. Can you help me urgently?

    • @bornagain2641
      @bornagain2641 Месяц назад +1

      its been a year and im sure you fixed the problem. so what was the solution

    • @soobyt
      @soobyt Месяц назад

      @@bornagain2641 Unfortunately I could not solve the problem

  • @bmwlovergaming
    @bmwlovergaming Год назад

    Can someone confirm please, will there be an rtx 4070ti waterblock for msi trio. I would also luke to see shop the loop for the very popular hyte y60 case. Thank you

  • @samsonadeboga223
    @samsonadeboga223 Год назад

    How soon will this product be available on the market, I'm so excited about it. I want it asap

    • @rossodelpadrone
      @rossodelpadrone Год назад +1

      I ordered this cooler from Caseking eight weeks ago. If everything is kept as promised, I should get this CPU cooler before Easter or at least the week after.

    • @samsonadeboga223
      @samsonadeboga223 Год назад

      @@rossodelpadrone the delivery time so long, why that time of delay?
      Might be that the demand is more than what they can easily supply.
      That shows more people are getting enlightened on the benefits of direct die cooling

    • @samsonadeboga223
      @samsonadeboga223 Год назад

      I'm very much interested in direct die cooling with 4090 for my workstation. I'm eager for maximum performance at minimum temp so that my components can last longer

  • @kenw8875
    @kenw8875 Год назад +3

    we used Noctua NT-H1 thermal paste on the cleaned die, in lieu of "liquid metal" as ref'd in the video. with this thermal paste, you do NOT spread out the paste. instead, for an LGA1700 chip you place 5 dots (2mm diameter). one dot at the center, and one each at each corner for a total of five dots. the instructions with the paste state: "CAUTION! Applying too much thermal paste can lead to higher CPUU temperatures."

  • @bernardoalves9168
    @bernardoalves9168 Год назад

    The upgrade kit doesnt came with the delid tool?t bring

    • @Rashimotosan
      @Rashimotosan Год назад

      No. It's sold separately for $80 but see KitGuru and Jayz2cents video. There's a big QC issue with the screws stripping the threading in the tool and both had the same problem. Unsure if EK has addressed it. Honestly just get the rockitcool kit. It's cheaper and I did my first delid with it in my 13900KS without issue

  • @felyxification
    @felyxification Год назад

    its der8auer and EK.on frame is 8 and EK

  • @AlJerry
    @AlJerry Год назад

    You really have to leave the foam between the block and the die?

    • @juliangarcia6073
      @juliangarcia6073 9 месяцев назад +1

      its made to protect the other components from the liquid metal (outside the square foam o.f.c.). if it happens, it can damage them from what i understand.

    • @juliangarcia6073
      @juliangarcia6073 9 месяцев назад +1

      i would like to know if it is necessary too if you just use the right amount of liquid metal maybe? im also not sure if the liquid will move around much ...?

    • @AlJerry
      @AlJerry 9 месяцев назад

      @@juliangarcia6073 yeah that's a "leak" protection & still don't know if it's necessary...

  • @tommy-z6i
    @tommy-z6i Год назад

    nice thanks.

  • @jessie38supercharged
    @jessie38supercharged 8 месяцев назад

    mine came with normal paste instead of liquid metal. Lame

  • @watercoolingmodding
    @watercoolingmodding Год назад

    Danke für die Infos ❤

  • @jensbiernot312
    @jensbiernot312 Год назад

    I built this upgrade kit on my Z790 hero monoblock and the direct die part has almost no contact with the die... now I have such temperature problems

  • @FlexWheeler88
    @FlexWheeler88 10 месяцев назад +5

    That product is extremly overpriced, considering it´s building mistakes. Aliexpress products outperform it by 40%

    • @FlexWheeler88
      @FlexWheeler88 9 месяцев назад

      Iceman DWB12 direct Die cooler schools EKWB on efficiency and pricing@BlackFlag714

  • @Rashimotosan
    @Rashimotosan Год назад

    I would not put liquid metal on the cpu while socketed 👀😳

    • @AlexanderDinebier
      @AlexanderDinebier Год назад

      Why? Would you rather put it on the CPU and then risk dropping that thing on the board with the LM on it? ;D
      I would cover the board with tissues or similar and put the LM on the applicator, then move that carefully over the die and spread it. So you don't risk to spit that stuff over the board with the syringe. There could be air in it after all.
      I will put a thin layer of non-conductive paint on my chip too before applying LM to the die, just to be safe.

    • @Rashimotosan
      @Rashimotosan Год назад

      @@AlexanderDinebier or take extra precaution. I kept my socket cover from my motherboard for that reason. I'd rather not risk it accidentally gushing out over the motherboard into crevices I'm unsure of.

    • @Rashimotosan
      @Rashimotosan Год назад

      @@AlexanderDinebier at least you're proposing covering the motherboard. This guy did nothing.

  • @AnnMeteo
    @AnnMeteo Год назад +1

    lots of people now are having issue with this EK DD
    I have same issue.
    At water temp 20 degree celcius, my 13900ks with ek dd can only costs up to 400watt at 110 degree celcius.
    I reinstalled 7 times, repaste liquid metal, results are same. 400watt with 110 celcius. 330 watt with 80 celcius.
    This result is same as heatkiller 4 pro with Stock IHS. 400 watt with 110 degree.
    Actually, ek dd is worse than normal cpu block. Core temp difference on heatkiller is only 7 degree difference, however ek dd is more than 15 degree. Core4, 7, and 8 extremely high.
    Once I changed to iceman dd, i got cured. At 330 watt it is only 60 degree.
    550 watt with 110 degree.
    Shame on you, ek
    What did de8auer do?
    Just rent reputation and have money?
    Than just decrease the price without name on it.
    I dont think ek will recall this garbage product.
    People who bought this product expect good cooling performance, not the same performance with stock ihs.
    And also, why does ek always delay their product? Once you said it will start deliver on mid Feb, it supposed to start at least 20 Feb. It is promise with customer, especially you received money first.
    If you guys think you cannot gurantee the time, than receive money later.
    I was big fan of ek, no more.
    Quality keeps decreasing, price keeps increasing, and most of product need to be rma. Im tired of this.

  • @a4man90
    @a4man90 5 месяцев назад

    omg dude u have such a little text and u neead to read something that u need to know allredy

  • @EmoEmu
    @EmoEmu Год назад

    Intel? Are you implying I'm a moron?

  • @bob.s795
    @bob.s795 Год назад

    total junk, only looks good as of performance is a piece of junk,