Its a good idea to crack the bleeder screw until it drips a few times before pulling the caliper off. It helps relieve the pressure on the caliper piston making it easier to remove the caliper. It also helps to push the piston back in easier. You will have bleed the the brake a little anyway. So cracking the bleeder screw is also preventative maintenance incase it's ceased or striped. That way you can get a new screw. If it's damaged.
If your parking brake barely works or is very weak changing your pads will fix that on the second gen xb's the regular pads are also used for ur parking brake
Thanks you, a garage was trying to charge my wife $500 for this job. I looked up your video then laughed at them. NO WAY JOSE IM PAYING THAT MUCH FOR A DRIVE WAY JOB.
I tried pushing them in with a c clamp. Smh. Thought they were seized. Too late now, but already replaced the calipers. The front went in with a c clamp, but not the rear. Didn't know about the special tool.
The tools not being used right u have to use the other plate on the inside to force the piston in. Once tighten u xan loosen it with an adjustable wrench.
Great video. Thanks for this info. I have a 2011 2nd Gen Scion xB and I’m planning on doing my front brakes. But I want to make sure I understand correctly. I can use a C-Clamp to push the piston back in manually in the caliper for the front brakes but for the rear I need a special tool that twists it in right ? Thank you kindly.
not as long as you don't open any hydraulic lines just keep an eye on the fluid level in the master cylinder as you push the pistons back in. You don't want brake fluid to spill out in the engine bay, it will eat paint off everything
What if you cracked open the bleeder valve a bit before pushing in the piston, wouldn't that make it a bit easier? Obviously you would bleed the lines afterwards. I usually use the one person bottle technique to bleed the brake lines with new brake fluid whenever I replace the brakes. Just another option.
You can do that if you like. if I don't have to bleed the brakes, I will avoid it. If the fluid is old in the master cylinder, I'll use a syringe or turkey baster to suck it out and put fresh in, then bleed them.
I wouldn't. Especially due to the fact that toyota had problems with the piston ring holes plugging up with crud and causing the engines to burn oil. Stick to the recommended oil
Any secret to turning the piston caliper without damaging that rubber boot? Every time I turn it (I turn it slowly), it catches, and I fear it may tear.
just keep straightening it out the best you can and take your time. Probably wouldn't hurt to put a shot of soapy water around it to make it slide easily.
yes, because these and some other toyota products have screw in calipers, they don't just push in. You will break them if you try to push them straight in, they must be turned/screwed back in with a special tool
@@alexginzo1246 what is the year of the Scion or xB? I had a 2012 xB. We replaced the rear caliper because the piston wouldn’t turn in. On the next one we figured out that it had to be turned in. I’m now getting ready to do this on my 2015 xB.
UPDATE! I did the rear rotors and pads on my 2015 Scion xB. Using only needle nose pliers to turn the pistons clockwise to reset them. Be careful. It was not easy, but saves time and money. I used RUclips, found this suggestion, and it worked.
Informative video Dave. I have a 2010 xb with 180k now, even the same color. So I did a full front and rear brake job on mine a couple years back and I used the needle nose pliers method of turning the piston inward. I had read somewhere you're supposed to engage the parking brake every so often to keep the piston adjusted against the pads. Well here I am today doing the job again and discovered the rear brakes have barely been functioning all this time. Any thoughts? Thanks
would you happen to have a link for a full set of rotors and pads front and back? i got your link from the description for the back but i also need to do front brakes as well
I replaced both rear calipers because I struggled too much with pushing them back in. Can I bleed the lines myself or do I need to take it in to a shop to be done professionally? I think it has an ABS system.
In the future you'll probably have the same problem with your new rear caliper pistons. You can't just compress them with a c clamp like you can on the front brakes; you can get a piston compression kit from harbor freight for ~ $45 (trust me, it's money well spent) that will compress and rotate at the same time. The instructions say use the #3 die but the #6 die worked better for me on the xBox. Also, my kit came with two handles, one with right and one with left handed threads. Toyotas use the rh with a clockwise turn to compress.
When you lube those pins I think you got to use the pink lube and NOTHING ELSE. Normal lube erodes the rubber and locks them up. At least that's what Toyota says about the other cars. Pink stuff is expensive.
I have a question? So for the scion xd cars for the caliper piston it needs to be twisted back in correct? Not pushed back in like how older cars are? I'm curious.
No you absolutely cannot on these cars. You have to use a brake tool that turns the piston back into the caliper . It screws back in, you cannot push it straight in with a clamp.
@@dirtydavesgarage8251 I use a c-clamp I bought from harbor freight and a small block of wood. I actually got the idea from youtube. Never need a brake tool. You put the clamp on the caliper and the piece of wood for equal push and it works like a charm.
any good quality brakes and rotors are fine. doesn't have to be scion or toyota brand, but i'd stick with ceramic pads, don't do semi metallic, they make a mess and are noisy sometimes
Covered under Toyota’s 150K enhanced warranty. And it’s actually oil consumption, not burning. There’s no smoke. I’m on my second one, and speak first hand experience. 2012 xB, and now a 2015.
Its a good idea to crack the bleeder screw until it drips a few times before pulling the caliper off. It helps relieve the pressure on the caliper piston making it easier to remove the caliper. It also helps to push the piston back in easier. You will have bleed the the brake a little anyway. So cracking the bleeder screw is also preventative maintenance incase it's ceased or striped. That way you can get a new screw. If it's damaged.
thank u very much , i am now confident to do the job
Saved my life man! Thanks for the info, I had never seen that kind of piston that screws back in.
Excellent video--concise--detailed where it needed to be and well defined steps---comments were well thought out and relevant...Thanks so much
thanks Larry!
Very nice and informative. I wish the link still worked for the rotors and pads still worked because I am hopeless to look it up myself.
i will check and update, check back soon and thanks for the heads up!
i've updated the link, should be good now
If your parking brake barely works or is very weak changing your pads will fix that on the second gen xb's the regular pads are also used for ur parking brake
you may need to adjust your cable as well
Thanks you, a garage was trying to charge my wife $500 for this job. I looked up your video then laughed at them. NO WAY JOSE IM PAYING THAT MUCH FOR A DRIVE WAY JOB.
130K its still got another 130 in it easy. good little cars
Good deal. I wasn't sure if those bad the new type calipers with the turning pistons. Thanks for the video and advice. 👍
Just what I needed. Thanks so much.
Got the same xb running strong with 258k miles
thanks for your video i was trying to do the job and i didn't know i needed a special tool thanks you bro
I tried pushing them in with a c clamp. Smh. Thought they were seized. Too late now, but already replaced the calipers. The front went in with a c clamp, but not the rear. Didn't know about the special tool.
I am referring to the calipers.
@@702johnny I did the same thing once. Luckily on the first caliper, and not the second.
LIGHT! LIGHT! Excellent info but we can’t really see what’s going on. Put some light on the subject and you’ll be at 5 stars.
Very helpful video. Thanks Dave!!!!
Only 130k? Mine has 240k and still runs great. That xb has lots of life left. Just check your oil every 2k miles or so.
The tools not being used right u have to use the other plate on the inside to force the piston in. Once tighten u xan loosen it with an adjustable wrench.
I mentioned that in the video also, was just faster for me to do it this way
special tool to turn in caliper good to know. Don't think I'll buy a scion for that reason. kind of a pain. Thanks for the video
The tool can be rented for a refundable deposit from Auto Zone.
Lots of manufactures do that, especially Japanese cars
Great video. Thanks for this info. I have a 2011 2nd Gen Scion xB and I’m planning on doing my front brakes. But I want to make sure I understand correctly. I can use a C-Clamp to push the piston back in manually in the caliper for the front brakes but for the rear I need a special tool that twists it in right ? Thank you kindly.
correct
@@dirtydavesgarage8251 if have to can use a pair of channel locks
Good stuff!
Great video and you made it plain and simple… will I have to bleed the system at all ?
not as long as you don't open any hydraulic lines
just keep an eye on the fluid level in the master cylinder as you push the pistons back in. You don't want brake fluid to spill out in the engine bay, it will eat paint off everything
What if you cracked open the bleeder valve a bit before pushing in the piston, wouldn't that make it a bit easier? Obviously you would bleed the lines afterwards. I usually use the one person bottle technique to bleed the brake lines with new brake fluid whenever I replace the brakes. Just another option.
You can do that if you like. if I don't have to bleed the brakes, I will avoid it. If the fluid is old in the master cylinder, I'll use a syringe or turkey baster to suck it out and put fresh in, then bleed them.
Good advice, never thought of removing some from the master cylinder first.@@dirtydavesgarage8251
Hey Dave, good vid but would be great if you lit up your subject matter more effectively!
Noted!
In Hawaii Summer is super hot, for 2010 xB 2nd Gen is it ok to change oil for: Mobil 1 High Mileage Full Synthetic Motor Oil 10W-40, 5 Quart
I wouldn't. Especially due to the fact that toyota had problems with the piston ring holes plugging up with crud and causing the engines to burn oil. Stick to the recommended oil
@@dirtydavesgarage8251 What do you think about this option: Mobil 1 (120769) High Mileage 5W-30 Motor Oil - 5 Quart. Is it better option? Is it safe?
Any secret to turning the piston caliper without damaging that rubber boot? Every time I turn it (I turn it slowly), it catches, and I fear it may tear.
just keep straightening it out the best you can and take your time. Probably wouldn't hurt to put a shot of soapy water around it to make it slide easily.
@@dirtydavesgarage8251 That worked perfectly, thanks!! Made the job *much* faster.
I've always used a c-clamp to get caliper pistons in. Any reason that won't work on the xB?
yes, because these and some other toyota products have screw in calipers, they don't just push in. You will break them if you try to push them straight in, they must be turned/screwed back in with a special tool
I use a c-clamp. on every brake job on my Scion and Wife's Toyota. If I had a picture in the comments I'd show you.
@@alexginzo1246 what is the year of the Scion or xB? I had a 2012 xB. We replaced the rear caliper because the piston wouldn’t turn in. On the next one we figured out that it had to be turned in. I’m now getting ready to do this on my 2015 xB.
UPDATE! I did the rear rotors and pads on my 2015 Scion xB. Using only needle nose pliers to turn the pistons clockwise to reset them. Be careful. It was not easy, but saves time and money. I used RUclips, found this suggestion, and it worked.
Informative video Dave. I have a 2010 xb with 180k now, even the same color. So I did a full front and rear brake job on mine a couple years back and I used the needle nose pliers method of turning the piston inward. I had read somewhere you're supposed to engage the parking brake every so often to keep the piston adjusted against the pads. Well here I am today doing the job again and discovered the rear brakes have barely been functioning all this time. Any thoughts? Thanks
would you happen to have a link for a full set of rotors and pads front and back? i got your link from the description for the back but i also need to do front brakes as well
let me see if i can find a set. what year is your xb?
here's a kit that should fit 2nd gen xb's, but definitely fits 2008: amzn.to/32NDVMl
I replaced both rear calipers because I struggled too much with pushing them back in. Can I bleed the lines myself or do I need to take it in to a shop to be done professionally? I think it has an ABS system.
Jonathan Frouman off course you can bleed them, just make sure you have good instructions and do it properly
In the future you'll probably have the same problem with your new rear caliper pistons. You can't just compress them with a c clamp like you can on the front brakes; you can get a piston compression kit from harbor freight for ~ $45 (trust me, it's money well spent) that will compress and rotate at the same time. The instructions say use the #3 die but the #6 die worked better for me on the xBox. Also, my kit came with two handles, one with right and one with left handed threads. Toyotas use the rh with a clockwise turn to compress.
When you lube those pins I think you got to use the pink lube and NOTHING ELSE. Normal lube erodes the rubber and locks them up. At least that's what Toyota says about the other cars. Pink stuff is expensive.
I have a question? So for the scion xd cars for the caliper piston it needs to be twisted back in correct? Not pushed back in like how older cars are? I'm curious.
I haven't worked on the xd, so I can't say. I believe it is the same as a toyota matrix if that helps
On my xB the rear pistons have to be twisted and compressed.
You can also use a clamp top pull back the caliper to fit onto the rotor.
No you absolutely cannot on these cars. You have to use a brake tool that turns the piston back into the caliper . It screws back in, you cannot push it straight in with a clamp.
Thanks a lot I was trying to push it back in
Is there any way to screw it in without the tool? My cars jacked up
if you can find something that will fit in the x slots to turn it. I ended up buying a cheap brake tool off amazon or ebay ....
@@dirtydavesgarage8251 I use a c-clamp I bought from harbor freight and a small block of wood. I actually got the idea from youtube. Never need a brake tool. You put the clamp on the caliper and the piece of wood for equal push and it works like a charm.
whats the name of your 14mm wrench
The ratchet is a craftsman 3/8 drive, the box end wrench is an extended length set of cheapo no name brand I got off Amazon, lol
Lucille
Do you recommend oem vs aftermarket rotors and brakes??
any good quality brakes and rotors are fine. doesn't have to be scion or toyota brand, but i'd stick with ceramic pads, don't do semi metallic, they make a mess and are noisy sometimes
Oil burner
it can be, but i found a fix for ours without tearing the engine apart. Watch my video about the scion xb oil change!
Covered under Toyota’s 150K enhanced warranty. And it’s actually oil consumption, not burning. There’s no smoke. I’m on my second one, and speak first hand experience. 2012 xB, and now a 2015.
If you're going to make videos invest in lighting.