@@SilentHillside The first, second, the room was special because of how it begins, origins, but the most impactful was "Shattered Memories"; it was hard to say goodbye to our first Silent Hill hero.
Playing SH2 as a kid, I was always intrigued by the numerous references to Walter Sullivan, so I was delighted to see him made as the main antagonist in this game. I feel that there’s more than one link between James Sunderland and Walter Sullivan that will sadly never be expanded on or explored further due to the fan’s dismissal of SH4 and their obsession with James’s story and the overall psychological themes of SH2
It's strange how fans can be a detriment at times to a franchise, but I think that is why a strong vision for a game's direction is needed. It can ignore demands and continue with where it means to go and usually, that succeeds. I suppose being a team thrown together they wouldn't have had that sway if Konami said to make more like SH2, so it continued the divide between what Japan wanted and the West.
@blumiu2426 I sorta feel the same way now about the Silent Hill 2 Remake. I think many fans are being too quick to cast judgment and throw it aside without thinking of the larger implications. If this does well, we could very likely get more Silent Hill akin to SH2, and likely a SH and SH3 remake as well.
@@wolfsbane9985 There is a reason to be hesitant about the Silent Hill 2 remake. For one, Konami has yet to demonstrate care for their IP and will give them to anyone to make money. Second, they have a consultancy group that prioritizes DEI and we know the trend and what that means for the characters and story. Third, Bloober lied about the game being faithful as they do double speak by saying it is, but also updated for modern audiences. The trailers have shown how not subtle their approach is. James showing major emotions and guilt, Angela's scenes far more pushing her abuse and Maria is not showing the least attachment to James as she should. If she has any free agency beyond him, they missed the entire point of her existence. Fan expectations are two-fold. They can exert what's unnecessary and that is identifiable within those circumstances. When a game is being changed by devs and politically motivated groups with the same aim, that is a separate issue and not on the fans. I'll be more clear and state it is typically casual fans more often that are detriment while fans of a game that know it in and out will show far more care than developers.
James dad being the superintendent was SUPER intentional and I’m curious if his infatuation with the umbilical chord has anything to do with his relationship with James or he was just a creep
@@wolfsbane9985oh 100000%, I’m thinking if they nail the atmosphere and just add onto the story it’s going to be great, regardless if it’s 3rd person behind the shoulder style. Regardless of how much more combat there is, I think it’s going to be great but this is SH so who knows. Regardless I’m waiting to see I’m excited either way.
You perfectly illustrated how SH4 is indeed a Silent Hill game, through on through! We are just exploring the psychology of another victim of the order in an environment that is familiar to them. It would have been an interesting premise if we can explore the psyche of other order victims. In a way, SH4 is probably the most terrifying, you don't go to Silent Hill, Silent Hill come to you.
So, the rumor of The Room NOT being intended as a SH entry initially? Is 100% false- SH4 was absolutely a fantastic entry in the series and the most unique interpretation of the supernatural elements of the towns influence over the intended victims.
I'll never forget those floating ghosts in SH4. The fact they come out of the wall really scared me as a kid. This game really brought so much memories, and I still appreciate this game. Despite its flaws SH4 has.
This game was absolutely horrifying. I’ve never played a game that scared me as much as this one. Really loved it. It’s one of my favorites of all time. This game is a metaphor of birth. The room is a safe haven for the entire first half. It’s like the room is the uterus. The holes are a path and connections to the worlds accessible outside of the room. The umbilical chord. Then Walter’s realities outside of the room.. the cruel world outside of the room.. you feel safe in the apartment. Maybe even take time to relax in there and feel safe from everything dangerous outside of it. Then the reality of the outside world starts to set into the room. Slowly turning it into a nightmare. The hatred and cruelty becomes the apartment, thus, the nightmare begins to spread everywhere. It’s a horrifying experience indeed. I have a lot more I could say about this game, but I would be typing forever.
I loved this game as a kid, the only issue i had with it was the back half being an escort mission with someone who's health can determine my ending lol the AI was not there for it and not having it! So many reloads to get the two good endings. Give me hauntings to cleanse all day, but it had me wanting to give her an SMG down some of those hallways. And the notorious hope house section...bro clapped me up like Dante and she was NO help. Lol
@@scottjones845 you can actually cleanse Eileen of any hauntings and secure a good ending without having to be super careful of her. Just place a couple holy candles by her feet before the final boss 😊
Another great video. My favorite SH channel. Might I plant a seed? We need a "Complete story of Laura" video. Not many people make videos on the only normal person in Silent Hill and her relation to it or the people she meets. Edit: I found your channel because of the Lisa Garland video. Your videos that focus on a single character/monster/pizza are my favorite. Great idea for a series full of interesting side characters.
Ill never understand why AvalancheReviews is so adamant that this game didnt start out being a Silent Hill game…His “retrospective” felt so biased and he didnt even pay much attention to the story. Great video!
Because 'apparently' it was supposed to take place in the same world as 1 to 3, but not take place in Silent Hill at any point. The decision to make it a full Silent Hill game but still keeping it outside of the town itself was made so early in developement though it's not really relevant, its just an excuse pepper bring up to discount it from the series or why they don't like it 😏
I was so into his channel until I saw him talking shit on SH4, saying RE7 isn't a Survival Horror, then later saying RE2 would be scarier if it was in 1st person...... Before that I thought he was cool
supposedly there was a poor translation of Japanese to English done by some magazine back in the early 2000s that translated "It was not a regular Silent Hill game we changed things" into "It was not a Silent Hill game, its too different"
Silent Hill 4 has always been one of my favorite horror games! It had an intriguing story and interesting characters. I also really enjoyed the atmosphere and many of the monster designs and scares. It just all really hooked me.
1:18:32 XD XD XD okay, cutting to your acapella version after that thoughtful description of the original version of the song made do a spit take from laughing so hard!! Subbed!
Amazing how we get to see and experience joseph's death, for henry it was just a dream, the whole intro is foreshadowing for the mc, SH is totally underrated, i mean what othe game has kurt cobain chase you around.
Listening to this at work and I was NOT expecting the wonderful song covers that you did! What a virtuoso for doing both vocals AND instruments! Made me actually laugh out loud!
I remember this game being poorly rated and misunderstood for such a long time. Makes me happy to read a lot of support for it after all these years. Disregarding some of its dull gameplay problems and compared to what came afterwards, it's truly a gem in terms of writing and lore.
I always found this Silent Hill game to be the most fascinating of the PlayStation 2 era ones. It has this perfectly creepy atmosphere. One landmark that always intrigued me was the Mother Stones from the Forest World. How Jasper remarks on it and mentions that, in the old days, they were called Nahkeehona
Im in the middle of developing my own video of SH4. It really is such a unique and interesting take on the franchise, and criminally underrated to this day.
This was my first silent hill game when I was younger and got me into the entire series! Thanks for making a video for this game that gets often over looked!
Was not expecting to see a The Room video pop up on my feed! Mega props for it, especially in 2024! It's my favorite SH game, just something about it gets me!
A thing I like about Henry is that he doesn’t have an emotional connection to the machinations of the plot; he’s just someone who got caught up in someone else’s plan. His presence is a hinderance to the antagonist that they didn’t account for. That even makes Walter feel more realistic to me, as he is only interested in meeting his mother, and this mistake is understandable for someone so single minded. Henry reminds me of Harry from SH1 in a way b/c of his “wrong man at the right time” role.
This Is my Favorite Silent hill with Silent Hill 3, two sick, deep, philosophical, beautiful games filled with history and terror! Great video, I'm going to watch it in its entirety with great pride. Anyone who says anything bad about this game is because they never managed to play it! 🐰❤
Round of applause for hillside! Your covers are great!!! Had a good chuckle out of them. SH4 has one of my fav stories. The mystery is so fun to unrevel. Though i have to say SH4 hauntings and 1st person gameplay was made so that fatal frame 3 and silent hill pt could take it as an inspiration. Sh4 walk before the walking haunting sim games could run.
This is absolutely my favorite with SH1. This game is a masterpiece and who says is not a SH didn't understand anything at all. I played this right when it came out and me and my friend loved it, especially after the 3d which was a stupid boring copy (bad one) of the first. Thus game was the peak of team silent for me.absolutely terrifying as it should. Bless ❤❤❤
You don't see games like the original 4 SH games, especially 2 and 4. Nowadays games just try to sound smart and philosophical and whatnot, and sometimes even use obscure presentation to hide there isn't that much genuine substance behind it. Silent Hill speaks directly to your soul, it's just something else. I hope we get more of those games in the future, but I'm not holding my breath.
@@dcb6729 I won't play it after all. I have a computer of course but it's just too slow and not powerful enough. Also I'm a German so we have Euros as a currency here.
@EldonPlaysVideoGames I got my computer even more than 15 years ago. My computer should be at least a bit faster nowadays but I once tried to play Plants Vs. Zombies 2 on it and it was just lagging as hell and it was as if it was in slow-motion.
Speaking of how Japanese folklore looks at ghosts, it's almost the same idea in Howard Phillips Lovecraft's tales thus making "Call of Cthulhu" TTRPG more popular in Japan than D&D-esque TTRPGs.
28:49 Same. It just gives me a weird sense of calm. The world is almost frozen in time with a feeling of *something* is about to happen... but not just yet. The hot air balloon lazily floating around is also a nice touch, and adds a gentle air of menace. The way it slowly spins around gives another layer to that feeling, as it looks directly at you from time to time, almost like it knows you are there. There's an opening sky splash screen in the remake of resident evil 1 that depicts this same kind of evening sky, and gives me the same feeling... Also the alley in Silent Hill 3 after Heather climbs out of the bathroom window, while the chill guitar riff continues to play. its a surreal, almost separate world. Safe, but... menacing in a way. Very liminal...
By far the scariest SH game for me, as soon as I hear that high pitched noise and wailing of a ghost knowing I can't do anything but run always keeps me on the edge no matter how many times I play the game.
Those ghosts man. If they were like bosses and you can put em ALL down permanently i could forgive no longer having infinite item space, or the lack of fire arms, or the missing iconic items like the radio or the flashlight.
Round of applause for hillside! This was such a well made video. Between this and eddy’s pizza, you’ve got a sub from me! Can’t wait to see what else you have in store!
Silent Hill is the only PS2 games on my emulator that I only use 1 cheat for. And it's the "1-Hit Kill" cheat. I don't use infinite ammo, no infinite health, no save manipulation. Just play on the hardest difficulty and have it set to where I and the enemy can both die on one hit. And I also don't use saves ever. That condition adds so much tension and dread to the situation because sure you can kill any enemy in one hit but if you fuck up even once you're back at the beginning.
It’s more that the rooms are randomly assigned than the key location being random. Technically the key is still in the same room. Okay those karaoke renditions were funny.
Something I like about this one that I never see talked about is the better confirmation of hinted lore in the prior games. This is thta the Order is unwillingly a Tulpa or thought form cult. All the mental energy from people's thoughts and subconsious wind up in an alternate dimention(sL where they are manifested in physical form. Silent Hill seems to be a natural weak point or nexus to this realm(s) and the origin realms of contents. This was even more hinted at the end of P.T. of course but..ya know..if people concentrate their will, they can start to break the barriers down more and start to merge the realms. This is how "God" was born into Silent Hill and also how Alessa's other world was manifesting. She was being used to bring "God" into existance which only further weakened the barrier between worlds. When "god" was finally born, despite being defeated, the barrier was left weaker than ever before allowing the other realm to start calling out to people nearby with thoughts resonating properly. And manifesting them. I don't think it's a consious thing but more that it can pick up and manifest thoughts with the stronger emotionally charged ones being better for this and naturally doing so. The individuals are more luring themselves than the other realm luring them. Little bits of support are seen through this in the games with an example being Maria manifesting as more of a general symbol of Jame's own self hatred in the prequel mission of SH2 before taking her more specific orle to punish him as his approach neared. The individualized other world's existing simultaneously while also the regualr town appears to other and "God" taking different shapes based on the vision of it the summoner would have also hint toward this. None of the religious lore the Order believes in is true beforehand but made real by believing in it hard enough near the bridge between dimentions where the thoughts can become real. SH 4 is the one game that pretty much iytright confirms it. Walter is KIND of trying to summon a God in the form of this idealistic mother figure but since he also envisions her as this sentient space, he is the one character actively seeking to bring an other realm over. In the past it is a single entity as a thought form with the other realm slowly making progression if merging with ours as a result. Walter's ritual is causing him to focus on making a new tear into the other dimention and bringing it foreward through to overlap ours..which he ACTUALLY SUCEEDS WITH IN THE BAD ENDING. He makes the other realm we keep going to become one with the real world. A food deal of silent Hill was based off of Jacob's ladder where he *spoilers* realizes he was dead all along. He was in a limbo state with the demonic entities not actually being evil. He perceives them ss hideous monsters destroying everything since he is rejecting rhe truth of his death and clinging to his past life. To move on the the next one his world needs to be deconstructed and removed from his mental state and they are hust doing this job. To people accepting of their state and wanting to move foreward, they appear as kind angels. The important thing is that they are niether inheritantly good or bad, just a part of the natural process doing their thing and it's the thoughts of the midstate kf the individual that determines the rest on how they appear or interact while doing so. A deleted scene makes it less obvious but it's even released that the young woman he is dating who keeps trying to distract him with pleasurable activities is actually a manifestation of his subconsious trying to slow the process and stop himself from moving on. I think the connection is obvious for most the SL situations but most of the characters are typically still alive. Walter is dead but the reason he can continue is because the Walter we see isn't Walter..its a thought form manifestation of himself he created. That's why he can do the supernatural things he does and there are multiple versions like young Walter. They are all Tulpa manifestations of his different subconsious "selves."
Are the names of the orphanage different in the Japanese versions of 3 and 4? “Wish” and “Hope” are honestly close enough synonyms I could easily see just having different localizers translate the same Japanese word differently.
I’ve never really understood the hate for this game, I’ve always found the story pretty intriguing and liked Walter Sullivan as a bad guy. Granted I was way too young when these games came out to play them so I never experienced the lead up to release and comparing them to the first three games. So I guess it might be looked at differently by someone who was a hard core fan when they were coming out lol. But I think it’s better than most horror games coming out today lol except maybe Alan Wake 2
I'm always appreciative of anyone willing to suggest sh4. I love how ambitious it is even if it doesn't stick the landing perfectly. I find a lot of people who hate on it staunchly refuse to play the game on its own terms; it requires a lot more patience from the player than the first three, especially if you want the better endings. While I don't begrudge people for not preferring that playstyle I feel it gets thrown under the bus a lot by people for it. I do feel it's a bit short and have mixed feelings about how the areas are revisited in the second half but I'm pretty sure internal trouble with Konami kept the budget tight so I'm not surprised. The game feels cut short of its potential in a lot of areas and doesn't have the polish 3 had. But I really feel it's worth playing, it's a very unique experience.
Still one of my favorite of the original team silent games. Only thing I hate about SH4 are the ghost. Having an invincible enemy that warps around a map is annoying especially when I much prefer exploring and looking at the environments. The ghost really forces you to have to run away unless you have the very limited swords to pin them down.
I feel worst for Cynthia. She was right there man, I think she was legit about to get out. But she stopped to tell Henry how to get to the exit too, slowed down my the wall monsters you cannot save her. It was just a dream right? Like why did she stop to tell Henry how to get out too if he was just a part of the dream? Also the weirdo guy, he was just an eccentric who digs the spooky stuff like us, so yeah. also, hugging someone who is screaming for her life thinking you are the same guy who did this to her back to finish the job. Is not the smartest move.
Silent Hill 4 was sad in terrifying way cause of Walter story, the cult that he did to see his mother was disturbing! for me it was and still one of the best horror games i played, loved the atmosphere, the music and the characters, team Silent hill did pretty good job as always and it saddened me that they no longer working on silent hill games. Thanks hillside and well done on the amazingly review 👏 ❤
There's something with the sound mixing in these games where the soundtrack -- while amazing -- is *blaring* to the point of being distracting from the game itself...
A big rah-rah not wah-wah at our friends comment about this kind of video making his - our - days better. I was pretty much filled with a nostalgic childhood like glee from the jump. Well done fam.
Odd as this might seem, but I'd say The Room is probably my favourite entry purely down to my initial experience of playing it through the first time whilst off sick from college with a fever. (Heck of a combo!) The music is on another level as well, which by the way, will you be releasing your interepretation of it anytime soonas those vocals are abslutely butter 😆
I played it while home sick with a fever too! I had some of the wildest fever dreams. It's strange in a cool way to find someone else who played it while having a fever.
@@SilentHillside for me even if it’s a silent hill game it for some reason it doesn’t quite feel like a silent hill game for me but something different if that makes sense
Thanks for this video! It sucks I will never be able to play this game, so I always stuck with watching playthroughs or analysis videos of The Room. Your video was definitely one of the best vids based on Silent Hill 4 The Room! :D
I want to see an 4 hours essay about "silent hill 4 and origins tie 2 and 3 together" about how the order seeks children with strong spiritual power and the town itself seek people who wants to unseal it's hell dimension, and Alyssa was just one of the children chosen by the order to birth their god and a there were many others, not all suitable and I will give a round of applause to hillside
Silent Hill 4 has always been my favorite. Have great memories with this game, and still love it looking back. It’s better than most people give it credit for. It’s very scary, the story is interesting and the Choices you make have impacts within the game story. It had/has a lot going for it.
Ok, I was ready to sub thanks to the fresh and thorough take you provided on material I’ve already watched and read about exhaustively, but when you started singing the OST I had to pause the video and sub right then 👏👏👏
At the end of the day, I feel like Silent Hill 4's motto was.... " Silent Hill 4 was the friends we made along the way! " And you know what - I'm okay with that.
Did you enjoy Silent Hill 4: The Room? What was your most memorable moment from this game?
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Just from the beginning, the confusion and the "WTF is going on here?" I finished in one full run, sleeping is just optional and overrated.
Did you feel that way about other Silent Hill games or just this one?
@@SilentHillside The first, second, the room was special because of how it begins, origins, but the most impactful was "Shattered Memories"; it was hard to say goodbye to our first Silent Hill hero.
It was the first Silent Hill game that I played and it gave me nightmares
Excellent 🤘🪶🏹🔪🎃👻
Playing SH2 as a kid, I was always intrigued by the numerous references to Walter Sullivan, so I was delighted to see him made as the main antagonist in this game. I feel that there’s more than one link between James Sunderland and Walter Sullivan that will sadly never be expanded on or explored further due to the fan’s dismissal of SH4 and their obsession with James’s story and the overall psychological themes of SH2
It's strange how fans can be a detriment at times to a franchise, but I think that is why a strong vision for a game's direction is needed. It can ignore demands and continue with where it means to go and usually, that succeeds. I suppose being a team thrown together they wouldn't have had that sway if Konami said to make more like SH2, so it continued the divide between what Japan wanted and the West.
@blumiu2426 I sorta feel the same way now about the Silent Hill 2 Remake. I think many fans are being too quick to cast judgment and throw it aside without thinking of the larger implications. If this does well, we could very likely get more Silent Hill akin to SH2, and likely a SH and SH3 remake as well.
@@wolfsbane9985 There is a reason to be hesitant about the Silent Hill 2 remake. For one, Konami has yet to demonstrate care for their IP and will give them to anyone to make money. Second, they have a consultancy group that prioritizes DEI and we know the trend and what that means for the characters and story. Third, Bloober lied about the game being faithful as they do double speak by saying it is, but also updated for modern audiences. The trailers have shown how not subtle their approach is. James showing major emotions and guilt, Angela's scenes far more pushing her abuse and Maria is not showing the least attachment to James as she should. If she has any free agency beyond him, they missed the entire point of her existence.
Fan expectations are two-fold. They can exert what's unnecessary and that is identifiable within those circumstances. When a game is being changed by devs and politically motivated groups with the same aim, that is a separate issue and not on the fans. I'll be more clear and state it is typically casual fans more often that are detriment while fans of a game that know it in and out will show far more care than developers.
James dad being the superintendent was SUPER intentional and I’m curious if his infatuation with the umbilical chord has anything to do with his relationship with James or he was just a creep
@@wolfsbane9985oh 100000%, I’m thinking if they nail the atmosphere and just add onto the story it’s going to be great, regardless if it’s 3rd person behind the shoulder style. Regardless of how much more combat there is, I think it’s going to be great but this is SH so who knows. Regardless I’m waiting to see I’m excited either way.
You perfectly illustrated how SH4 is indeed a Silent Hill game, through on through! We are just exploring the psychology of another victim of the order in an environment that is familiar to them. It would have been an interesting premise if we can explore the psyche of other order victims.
In a way, SH4 is probably the most terrifying, you don't go to Silent Hill, Silent Hill come to you.
show ya titz
these kinds of videos make my day much better
I’m glad to hear it. Comments like these are part of the reason I love making videos, this means a lot. Thank you :)
@@SilentHillside of course! keep up the good stuff!
So, the rumor of The Room NOT being intended as a SH entry initially? Is 100% false- SH4 was absolutely a fantastic entry in the series and the most unique interpretation of the supernatural elements of the towns influence over the intended victims.
I'll never forget those floating ghosts in SH4. The fact they come out of the wall really scared me as a kid. This game really brought so much memories, and I still appreciate this game. Despite its flaws SH4 has.
@@Mankey619 shit me up and I was in my early 20s part of me wishes I was a kid when it came out I would have probably got even more scared by it
This game was absolutely horrifying. I’ve never played a game that scared me as much as this one. Really loved it. It’s one of my favorites of all time.
This game is a metaphor of birth. The room is a safe haven for the entire first half. It’s like the room is the uterus. The holes are a path and connections to the worlds accessible outside of the room. The umbilical chord. Then Walter’s realities outside of the room.. the cruel world outside of the room.. you feel safe in the apartment. Maybe even take time to relax in there and feel safe from everything dangerous outside of it. Then the reality of the outside world starts to set into the room. Slowly turning it into a nightmare. The hatred and cruelty becomes the apartment, thus, the nightmare begins to spread everywhere.
It’s a horrifying experience indeed. I have a lot more I could say about this game, but I would be typing forever.
I loved this game as a kid, the only issue i had with it was the back half being an escort mission with someone who's health can determine my ending lol the AI was not there for it and not having it! So many reloads to get the two good endings. Give me hauntings to cleanse all day, but it had me wanting to give her an SMG down some of those hallways. And the notorious hope house section...bro clapped me up like Dante and she was NO help. Lol
@@scottjones845 you can actually cleanse Eileen of any hauntings and secure a good ending without having to be super careful of her. Just place a couple holy candles by her feet before the final boss 😊
Another great video. My favorite SH channel. Might I plant a seed? We need a "Complete story of Laura" video. Not many people make videos on the only normal person in Silent Hill and her relation to it or the people she meets.
Edit: I found your channel because of the Lisa Garland video. Your videos that focus on a single character/monster/pizza are my favorite. Great idea for a series full of interesting side characters.
Ill never understand why AvalancheReviews is so adamant that this game didnt start out being a Silent Hill game…His “retrospective” felt so biased and he didnt even pay much attention to the story.
Great video!
Because 'apparently' it was supposed to take place in the same world as 1 to 3, but not take place in Silent Hill at any point. The decision to make it a full Silent Hill game but still keeping it outside of the town itself was made so early in developement though it's not really relevant, its just an excuse pepper bring up to discount it from the series or why they don't like it 😏
Walter is even mention in silent hill 2.
I was so into his channel until I saw him talking shit on SH4, saying RE7 isn't a Survival Horror, then later saying RE2 would be scarier if it was in 1st person......
Before that I thought he was cool
@@Coreisus he’s super flippant and has no real consistency
supposedly there was a poor translation of Japanese to English done by some magazine back in the early 2000s that translated "It was not a regular Silent Hill game we changed things" into "It was not a Silent Hill game, its too different"
Silent Hill 4 has always been one of my favorite horror games! It had an intriguing story and interesting characters. I also really enjoyed the atmosphere and many of the monster designs and scares. It just all really hooked me.
The game should have been called Silent Hill: The Hole. 😂
@Late30sDude ey to be fair! Thats actually a creepy title 👍
Round of applause for Hillside
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only 28 so far?
Round of applause for hillside
an underrated gem and one of my personal favorites
The game is incomplete, that's the reason of the backlash.
@@anders6326 No Ufo ending to start, even there was a file about that in the core data.
1:18:32 XD XD XD okay, cutting to your acapella version after that thoughtful description of the original version of the song made do a spit take from laughing so hard!! Subbed!
Thanks for the silent hill reviews appreciate it ☺️☺️
Your rendition of Room of Angel is absolutely incredible 👌
Very cool video, thanks man!
Round of applause for Hillside!
The perfect vid for a cloudy Sunday. I love the ambience of SH4 for being kinda home-y.
2 weeks late but it's another cloudy Sunday
or maybe it's always a cloudy Sunday somewhere
Another 2 weeks late.
Worked 9 days in a row and finally a sunday off! 🎉
Edit: yeah and its rainy, cold and cloudy right now
Amazing how we get to see and experience joseph's death, for henry it was just a dream, the whole intro is foreshadowing for the mc, SH is totally underrated, i mean what othe game has kurt cobain chase you around.
Listening to this at work and I was NOT expecting the wonderful song covers that you did! What a virtuoso for doing both vocals AND instruments! Made me actually laugh out loud!
Shattered memories would be a good one to follow up. Under appreciated game with a great story to learn
I remember this game being poorly rated and misunderstood for such a long time. Makes me happy to read a lot of support for it after all these years. Disregarding some of its dull gameplay problems and compared to what came afterwards, it's truly a gem in terms of writing and lore.
I always found this Silent Hill game to be the most fascinating of the PlayStation 2 era ones. It has this perfectly creepy atmosphere. One landmark that always intrigued me was the Mother Stones from the Forest World. How Jasper remarks on it and mentions that, in the old days, they were called Nahkeehona
Love the channel! You got me playing SH2 for the 12th time. I really hope you do some let's plays on all the games with commentary
Im in the middle of developing my own video of SH4. It really is such a unique and interesting take on the franchise, and criminally underrated to this day.
Round of applause for Daddy Hillside!
Wish I had seen this video sooner. Well made review.
This was my first silent hill game when I was younger and got me into the entire series! Thanks for making a video for this game that gets often over looked!
Was not expecting to see a The Room video pop up on my feed! Mega props for it, especially in 2024! It's my favorite SH game, just something about it gets me!
A thing I like about Henry is that he doesn’t have an emotional connection to the machinations of the plot; he’s just someone who got caught up in someone else’s plan. His presence is a hinderance to the antagonist that they didn’t account for. That even makes Walter feel more realistic to me, as he is only interested in meeting his mother, and this mistake is understandable for someone so single minded.
Henry reminds me of Harry from SH1 in a way b/c of his “wrong man at the right time” role.
It was a great game. I still play it on PC/ GOG
I agree - It’s the title that’s grown on me the most over time for sure. The GOG version is also good
I didn't even know it was on gog. I'm about to play it for the first time as a 20+ year fan of the series
Just finished the game and loved it! Thanks for the video explaining some things I didn’t “get” the first time.
Round of applause for Hillside! Great video :D
This Is my Favorite Silent hill with Silent Hill 3, two sick, deep, philosophical, beautiful games filled with history and terror! Great video, I'm going to watch it in its entirety with great pride. Anyone who says anything bad about this game is because they never managed to play it! 🐰❤
Round of applause for Hillside! Amazing work! And singing!
Round of applause for hillside! Your covers are great!!! Had a good chuckle out of them. SH4 has one of my fav stories. The mystery is so fun to unrevel. Though i have to say SH4 hauntings and 1st person gameplay was made so that fatal frame 3 and silent hill pt could take it as an inspiration. Sh4 walk before the walking haunting sim games could run.
Oh yes I'm gonna enjoy this
Appreciate you man!
This is absolutely my favorite with SH1. This game is a masterpiece and who says is not a SH didn't understand anything at all. I played this right when it came out and me and my friend loved it, especially after the 3d which was a stupid boring copy (bad one) of the first. Thus game was the peak of team silent for me.absolutely terrifying as it should. Bless ❤❤❤
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round of applause for hillside
silent hillside the type of fellow to not know what a succubus is
Very nice video and easy to follow and understand. Loving the channel and videos like these help me fall asleep in these tough times in the world.
Round of applause for SilentHillside! 🎉 you deserve a standing ovation for that cover of room of angels tbh.
Round of applause for HILLSIDE
You don't see games like the original 4 SH games, especially 2 and 4. Nowadays games just try to sound smart and philosophical and whatnot, and sometimes even use obscure presentation to hide there isn't that much genuine substance behind it. Silent Hill speaks directly to your soul, it's just something else. I hope we get more of those games in the future, but I'm not holding my breath.
thanks for the video! now if you excuse me, I'll go grab some coffee and watch such a delightful retrospective ☝️
OH THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD!!!!!!!
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Round of applause for Hillside
I also like this game even though I've never played it. I just wish it was maybe a bit longer.
Do you think you’ll end up playing it? It’s such a fun game to immerse yourself in, imo
If you have a pc. G.O.G. has it for 6$. Works great and looks good for a early 2000's game.
@@SilentHillside I think not. I have a computer of course but it's not powerful or fast enough to even play games on it.
@@dcb6729 I won't play it after all. I have a computer of course but it's just too slow and not powerful enough. Also I'm a German so we have Euros as a currency here.
@EldonPlaysVideoGames I got my computer even more than 15 years ago. My computer should be at least a bit faster nowadays but I once tried to play Plants Vs. Zombies 2 on it and it was just lagging as hell and it was as if it was in slow-motion.
Round of applause for Hillside
Round of applause for Hillside
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Round of applause for hillside!!!
Great deep dive. Thanks for the research and excellent description.
Speaking of how Japanese folklore looks at ghosts, it's almost the same idea in Howard Phillips Lovecraft's tales thus making "Call of Cthulhu" TTRPG more popular in Japan than D&D-esque TTRPGs.
28:49 Same. It just gives me a weird sense of calm. The world is almost frozen in time with a feeling of *something* is about to happen... but not just yet. The hot air balloon lazily floating around is also a nice touch, and adds a gentle air of menace. The way it slowly spins around gives another layer to that feeling, as it looks directly at you from time to time, almost like it knows you are there. There's an opening sky splash screen in the remake of resident evil 1 that depicts this same kind of evening sky, and gives me the same feeling... Also the alley in Silent Hill 3 after Heather climbs out of the bathroom window, while the chill guitar riff continues to play. its a surreal, almost separate world. Safe, but... menacing in a way. Very liminal...
your comment literally worded my feeling omg
I saw this in a dream last night. It’s pretty good.
SH4 is my personal favorite. For me, it's the most interesting and fun to play (aside from the ghosts, lol). The soundtrack is also fantastic.
I love all the main SH series, sileng hill 4 the room is giving more creepy vibes.
By far the scariest SH game for me, as soon as I hear that high pitched noise and wailing of a ghost knowing I can't do anything but run always keeps me on the edge no matter how many times I play the game.
Thank you
You’re welcome & thank you too :)
the droning background music is best in the series
Those ghosts man. If they were like bosses and you can put em ALL down permanently i could forgive no longer having infinite item space, or the lack of fire arms, or the missing iconic items like the radio or the flashlight.
A round of applause for hillside!!!
Round of applause for hillside! This was such a well made video. Between this and eddy’s pizza, you’ve got a sub from me! Can’t wait to see what else you have in store!
Round of applause for Hillside babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Silent Hill is the only PS2 games on my emulator that I only use 1 cheat for. And it's the "1-Hit Kill" cheat. I don't use infinite ammo, no infinite health, no save manipulation. Just play on the hardest difficulty and have it set to where I and the enemy can both die on one hit. And I also don't use saves ever. That condition adds so much tension and dread to the situation because sure you can kill any enemy in one hit but if you fuck up even once you're back at the beginning.
It’s more that the rooms are randomly assigned than the key location being random. Technically the key is still in the same room.
Okay those karaoke renditions were funny.
The game's even better if you play with the Randomizer mod. Apparently it's the best Randomizer too, compared to the SH 3 and SH2 Randomizers
great video but damn you for having loud music and ruining comfy vibe ROUNDOFAPPLAUSEFORHILLSIDE
Something I like about this one that I never see talked about is the better confirmation of hinted lore in the prior games. This is thta the Order is unwillingly a Tulpa or thought form cult. All the mental energy from people's thoughts and subconsious wind up in an alternate dimention(sL where they are manifested in physical form. Silent Hill seems to be a natural weak point or nexus to this realm(s) and the origin realms of contents. This was even more hinted at the end of P.T. of course but..ya know..if people concentrate their will, they can start to break the barriers down more and start to merge the realms. This is how "God" was born into Silent Hill and also how Alessa's other world was manifesting. She was being used to bring "God" into existance which only further weakened the barrier between worlds. When "god" was finally born, despite being defeated, the barrier was left weaker than ever before allowing the other realm to start calling out to people nearby with thoughts resonating properly. And manifesting them. I don't think it's a consious thing but more that it can pick up and manifest thoughts with the stronger emotionally charged ones being better for this and naturally doing so. The individuals are more luring themselves than the other realm luring them. Little bits of support are seen through this in the games with an example being Maria manifesting as more of a general symbol of Jame's own self hatred in the prequel mission of SH2 before taking her more specific orle to punish him as his approach neared. The individualized other world's existing simultaneously while also the regualr town appears to other and "God" taking different shapes based on the vision of it the summoner would have also hint toward this. None of the religious lore the Order believes in is true beforehand but made real by believing in it hard enough near the bridge between dimentions where the thoughts can become real. SH 4 is the one game that pretty much iytright confirms it. Walter is KIND of trying to summon a God in the form of this idealistic mother figure but since he also envisions her as this sentient space, he is the one character actively seeking to bring an other realm over. In the past it is a single entity as a thought form with the other realm slowly making progression if merging with ours as a result. Walter's ritual is causing him to focus on making a new tear into the other dimention and bringing it foreward through to overlap ours..which he ACTUALLY SUCEEDS WITH IN THE BAD ENDING. He makes the other realm we keep going to become one with the real world. A food deal of silent Hill was based off of Jacob's ladder where he *spoilers* realizes he was dead all along. He was in a limbo state with the demonic entities not actually being evil. He perceives them ss hideous monsters destroying everything since he is rejecting rhe truth of his death and clinging to his past life. To move on the the next one his world needs to be deconstructed and removed from his mental state and they are hust doing this job. To people accepting of their state and wanting to move foreward, they appear as kind angels. The important thing is that they are niether inheritantly good or bad, just a part of the natural process doing their thing and it's the thoughts of the midstate kf the individual that determines the rest on how they appear or interact while doing so. A deleted scene makes it less obvious but it's even released that the young woman he is dating who keeps trying to distract him with pleasurable activities is actually a manifestation of his subconsious trying to slow the process and stop himself from moving on. I think the connection is obvious for most the SL situations but most of the characters are typically still alive. Walter is dead but the reason he can continue is because the Walter we see isn't Walter..its a thought form manifestation of himself he created. That's why he can do the supernatural things he does and there are multiple versions like young Walter. They are all Tulpa manifestations of his different subconsious "selves."
Are the names of the orphanage different in the Japanese versions of 3 and 4? “Wish” and “Hope” are honestly close enough synonyms I could easily see just having different localizers translate the same Japanese word differently.
The big guys burping their way down the stairs always cracks me when I play!
I’ve never really understood the hate for this game, I’ve always found the story pretty intriguing and liked Walter Sullivan as a bad guy. Granted I was way too young when these games came out to play them so I never experienced the lead up to release and comparing them to the first three games. So I guess it might be looked at differently by someone who was a hard core fan when they were coming out lol. But I think it’s better than most horror games coming out today lol except maybe Alan Wake 2
I'm always appreciative of anyone willing to suggest sh4. I love how ambitious it is even if it doesn't stick the landing perfectly.
I find a lot of people who hate on it staunchly refuse to play the game on its own terms; it requires a lot more patience from the player than the first three, especially if you want the better endings. While I don't begrudge people for not preferring that playstyle I feel it gets thrown under the bus a lot by people for it.
I do feel it's a bit short and have mixed feelings about how the areas are revisited in the second half but I'm pretty sure internal trouble with Konami kept the budget tight so I'm not surprised. The game feels cut short of its potential in a lot of areas and doesn't have the polish 3 had. But I really feel it's worth playing, it's a very unique experience.
Still one of my favorite of the original team silent games. Only thing I hate about SH4 are the ghost. Having an invincible enemy that warps around a map is annoying especially when I much prefer exploring and looking at the environments. The ghost really forces you to have to run away unless you have the very limited swords to pin them down.
I feel worst for Cynthia. She was right there man, I think she was legit about to get out. But she stopped to tell Henry how to get to the exit too, slowed down my the wall monsters you cannot save her. It was just a dream right? Like why did she stop to tell Henry how to get out too if he was just a part of the dream?
Also the weirdo guy, he was just an eccentric who digs the spooky stuff like us, so yeah.
also, hugging someone who is screaming for her life thinking you are the same guy who did this to her back to finish the job. Is not the smartest move.
Silent Hill 4 was sad in terrifying way cause of Walter story, the cult that he did to see his mother was disturbing! for me it was and still one of the best horror games i played, loved the atmosphere, the music and the characters, team Silent hill did pretty good job as always and it saddened me that they no longer working on silent hill games.
Thanks hillside and well done on the amazingly review 👏 ❤
There's something with the sound mixing in these games where the soundtrack -- while amazing -- is *blaring* to the point of being distracting from the game itself...
"Silent Hill 4 is great"
Liked, and subscribed 😌
I started this game but when I finally got to leave I got stuck at the train station and never looked back
37:15 It is pronounced "Suck You Bus". 😑
Oh, and "Round of applause for Hillside."
Clapping my fucking hands! Nice work buddy
A big rah-rah not wah-wah at our friends comment about this kind of video making his - our - days better.
I was pretty much filled with a nostalgic childhood like glee from the jump.
Well done fam.
Odd as this might seem, but I'd say The Room is probably my favourite entry purely down to my initial experience of playing it through the first time whilst off sick from college with a fever. (Heck of a combo!) The music is on another level as well, which by the way, will you be releasing your interepretation of it anytime soonas those vocals are abslutely butter 😆
I played it while home sick with a fever too! I had some of the wildest fever dreams. It's strange in a cool way to find someone else who played it while having a fever.
Some reason the name Ashfield sounds familiar. Plus Is that a air balloon is a pink bunny head that I Spy
It’s not the best but it’s definitely not the worst out there
That’s a statement I can get behind! If you don’t mind sharing, what put you off this one?
@@SilentHillside for me even if it’s a silent hill game it for some reason it doesn’t quite feel like a silent hill game for me but something different if that makes sense
Haha 😂 that music section was genius 😂
Favorite SH in the series!! This one has such a special place in my heart and i loved your video on it! Round of applause to hillside 🎉
👏 round of applause for Hillside 👏
Thanks for this video! It sucks I will never be able to play this game, so I always stuck with watching playthroughs or analysis videos of The Room. Your video was definitely one of the best vids based on Silent Hill 4 The Room! :D
Why cant you play this game if you dont mind me asking? Its available on PC on GOG. Super affordable
As a wise man once said, purchase it from your local wallmart
The game is on steam bro.
And even then, it is easy to find a ISO of it on the internet and use it on a PS2 emulator.
Great cover versions 👌
I want to see an 4 hours essay about "silent hill 4 and origins tie 2 and 3 together" about how the order seeks children with strong spiritual power and the town itself seek people who wants to unseal it's hell dimension, and Alyssa was just one of the children chosen by the order to birth their god and a there were many others, not all suitable and I will give a round of applause to hillside
I played this on a demo disk like jampak waaay back when
I think another comment already said the round of applause. But I saw it through to the end.
Finally a new retrospective from my favorite Silent Hillbilly! Thank you ❤
You’re welcome & thank you for your continued support! I hope you enjoyed :)
Me playing this game at 20 years old vs me at 38 years old now. Will the experience feels the same?
Silent Hill 4 has always been my favorite. Have great memories with this game, and still love it looking back. It’s better than most people give it credit for. It’s very scary, the story is interesting and the
Choices you make have impacts within the game story. It had/has a lot going for it.
Ok, I was ready to sub thanks to the fresh and thorough take you provided on material I’ve already watched and read about exhaustively, but when you started singing the OST I had to pause the video and sub right then 👏👏👏
At the end of the day, I feel like Silent Hill 4's motto was....
" Silent Hill 4 was the friends we made along the way! "
And you know what - I'm okay with that.
I heard this game is about circumcision.