I just bought the 3" Barkeep for $159 today, the reason being I have 2 semi auto 22lr pistols and sometimes they are finicky with ammo, so this way I can shoot the ammo that the others reject, at least that's what I told the wife
since the heritage stuff is made to do both the 22LR and 22WMR, the barrels are a bit larger bore so they can handle the 22WMR. now they are not the most accurate things anyway BUT typically becuase of this slightly larger bore, the 22WMR is more accurate than the 22LR
i have repeatedly stated on many videos with these style sights that i HATE them and have never been able to get used to them. now this is an older video so i obviously don't remember but was probably trying to adjust my POA a bit., maybe.
you can get all of that from them so not sure they will ever release one that comes with all that, why would they if they offer it secondary, you know. i actually had that conversation with then during the Shooting Sports Showcase. they could either jack up the price to include all that OR just offer it aftermarket for those who want it. the later makes more business sense if you think about it. i 100% agree on the birds head for sure. it would be much better with that. sadly they did not send me one and i am not going to spend money to trick out something that may get sent back once the testing is done.
i was upset with the block safety on my rough ryder it took some working with to figure out now im comfortabel with it and find it easy to deal with just ask the dead ratteler i shot it wont suprize any one any more...also i used psycodelic colored nail polish on blade and notch and gorilla selfe adhearing rubber tape for a no slip grip cover all works great for me
I have one with wood grip, well built and it’s a lot fun. Also have the .22 mag cylinder. I had to adjust my POA AS WELL. If I leveled the front sight at the same level of the rear groves it went well except a bit to the left. Also have the rough rider and had to bend the front sight which was terribly off.
I have one of these and it's a sweet little gun. I had to work the action through quite a bit as it was very rough and sticky in the beginning, but it loosened up after awhile.
@@CloverTac well, it seems like the revolvers that they made 8-10 years ago have better quality than the ones they make now. I bought one of their revolvers back in 2014 and the difference is night and day with regard to the action. Like I said you just have to work it in a bit and then it's ok, but yeah we aren't talking about a Colt SAA either.
interesting... i know i once had a FIE Tex 22 which was the rough rider before it was a rough rider and it seemed a bit more refined as well. i think the time frame you are talking about is around the time Taurus took over, could be wrong on that but think it is anyway. companies will always cut corners on the cheaper stuff, especially when it comes to costly things like refinement. that is why the high dollar stuff is so high dollar is it requires a human to sit there polishing and fitting and stuff, time/labor is always more money
@@CloverTac totally agree, you and I aren't the only ones that noticed a difference in workmanship, still great guns though, ya just have to work with them a bit.
first firearm? nice! i would likely never recommend that this be anyone's first firearm, mainly due to the sights, but they are certainly fun and the prices seem to be right. keep us posted after your have gotten a few rounds downrange.
Was lucky enough to get one super tight clearances. At about 2k rnds since I first saw this. Was my first purchase of a revolver and i definitely got a golden egg. My other rough rider will hang up using cheap ammo. Case swells sometimes. The barkeep has had zero malfunctions going on 2k rnds exactly. Was also some dollars more. Go figure
cases swelling in 22LR is pretty common, i have quite a few revovlers, even my S&W 617 (not a cheap or faulty revovler) where it happens now and again. keep in mind you don't get anything dirtier than 22LR, so keeping the cylinders brushed clean can help too. glad your are enjoying them, for the money, the heritage stuff is hard to beat, is it S&W, no way but they are a whole lotta fun for not a lotta money.
@@CloverTac absolutely. This was a month ago I snagged that. I had the itch to plink on my days off. I got the revolver itch so I scooped a m200 by ria and while going out with it is more expensive per box that thing is a hoot too haha. Really fun. Single action trigger is so so soft. Have a try on one of those. For around 180 you'll say cool another trusty 38. And again is it a smith ? No but we saved ammo money so we are the true winners
yep, have played around with several of the RIA revolvers over the years and just not a fan. if i am being honest... i have seen a few issues pop up here and there in relation to quality of metal and specifically the firing pin. RIA does make some decent stuff, the AG shotgun and AL revovlers for example seen to be pretty solid, better than the M series. if you are having good luck with it, cool, not for me though.
Just ordered myself one. I think these are cool, and will make quite a keepsake. With that TINY little barrel, not sure what folks are expecting as far as accuracy at any range beyond PERSONAL DEFENSE range, which is the range for which this firearm is designed (not that anyone is really going to use this for personal defense, but it's the role these are meant to fill).
Yeah, 10 yards is long range with the barkeep...we were watching a western the other night and the bartender had a sawed off double barrel that he reached for too late (that's Hollywood for you), but the barkeep is that situation in mind, say 3-10 feet, and I would think back in those days it was probably in a larger caliber...a sawed off .45 peacemaker...?
bit of a silly question, it is a firearm, so regardless of shot placement, yes, can be deadly for sure.... that said, would not be anywhere near my first choice on a defensive firearm for several reasons, first of which is reliability issues with rimfire ammunition. no matter how good a firearm is, for defensive use it must be very reliable, otherwise it is useless in my opinion. of course. end of the day though, something is always better than nothing
@@COWScankill2 ok, so, we are really getting into some dicey stuff to be talking about here on RUclips. and to that i am always up for a conversation through PM, DM on ohter socials, email, the clovertac website, phone, text, whatever. to speak to the human skull, there are stories all over the place of various calibers 9mm, 556 and more basically entering under the skin, riding around the skull and exiting without any damage to the skull. so, my take on any defensive tactic is to go center mass, biggest target, mitigatet he chances of a miss, etc. all of this of course is under the assumption of legal defensive use... which is a whole other can of worms depending on wherd you live. pretty much any trainer, instructor, etc will likely tell you the same thing. i can promise you, no one wants to get shot center mass with a 22, heck i ain't gonna stand there and let you shoot me with a pellet rifle.
I bought one of these, and the shots seem to spread less after about 75 rounds. Maybe it just takes practice to adapt to the short barrel and rudimentary sights, or maybe it has a “break in” period, but for simple plinking it’s a good time!
no doubt both break in and practice are both contibuting factors, yep, spot on. for me, i have shot many thousands (tens of thousdans maybe) of rounds through single actions with old school sights and have yet to get any better, they just do not agree with me. i do a lot better shooting at steel to hear it go ping rather than trying to group on paper but to you point of just having a good time, yeah, plenty good enough for that for sure
Just a heads up it is cheaper to buy a 22mag cylinder from the manufacturer than to buy a combo version. Also it is a great revolver to customize w several options you can buy from the manufacturer. I have done this and they were quick to send my order out asap. S&h was free w a purchase of 50$ or more and 4 thing in my cart and I was at free shipping. Engraved cylinder and texas grips , display rack and gun sock . The titianium plated cylinder offers several color options.
heck yeah, Heritage has a LOT to offer with factory extras for sure. in fact, i should be getting a 16" barreled rough rider with a "rancher" stock kit in from them soon. looking forward to that, have reviewed the 16" in the past but have been chomping at the bit for a Rancher rifle... can't wait.
My brother has the barkeep with the wood grips and it is a fun shooter. I went for the Rough Rider with the birds head grip from the factory and the 3 1/2” barrel and have a pair of them. The pearl grips looked way better in the pictures than in real life and I upgraded to aftermarket checkered wood grips in the birds head configuration. Great feel with the birds head and checkering. I agree that I don’t like the safety. Heritage advises to not carry with hammer down on a loaded cylinder anyway so the safety is a nuisance
@@matthewlose9446 I keep the safety on off and just slightly cock the hammer back to the first click sound. That's another safety. The hammer won't be touching the pin
Just got mine and I keep her loaded with the 22mag cylinder and just love this little guy. Perfect little boat gun for snakes and snapping turtles. Fairly accurate and does the job nicely
come on man! you know full well you can easily own both with no problems. that wrangler isn't as short at this one anyway. you are just making silly excuses bro. 😂😂
yeah, depending on distance i suppose. i don't do well with these antique sights, never have, so anything over about 10 feet is probably no go for me, will just grab the shotgun probably 😂🤣 some people drive nails with these old school single action sights... i just don't get it, good on them
In a lot of these reviews... the comment made is that there is 3 clicks on the hammer... This is wrong... there is actually 4 clickswith the hammer pulled back... and if you do it right...and watch the cylinder rotate...you will see the cylinder turn a half turn from the 3rd click to the 4th click... And this could be why people experience a failure to fire sometimes...because they aren't making sure the hammer is pulled back all the way... or...the frame screws have come loose and not allowing the hammer to fall fully on the firing pin... Just my observance with my Barkeep...
@@CloverTac Thanks for posting this... Glad that this video was out there... However... with these Rough riders and Barkeeps from Heritage...if you pull the hammer back to the third click...and then let it go...the hammer will not return to Half cock position... at least on my Barkeep it doesn't... The Hammer remains in that third click position... I'm just saying... Again...Thanks again for posting...
i am not really sure what you are talking about here but then again, that is why i made a whole different video trying to explain what i mean by "clicks" and "positions"... sometimes putting things into words is the worst way to communicate something. i think it is sorta matter of symatecs with the heritage. mine has 3 positions but 4 clicks. when you pull back slow, that 3rd click drops the cylinder stop and does lock somewhat into place but the final click is the hammer set and happen by putting just a little more pressure on the hammer after that 3rd click. so it could be said that the 3rd and 4th click happen during the 3rd position. if you are actually cocking it at a normal speed, that would pretty much be the case, almost simultaneous. at any rate, different single actions act different, as pointed out in my clarification video with the ruger vagquero, it is a whole different animal enirely.
@@CloverTac I completely understand what you are saying in your explanation video about the clicks and their functions... I am just simply refering to the "Audible" clicks when you pull the Hammer back slowly... That's all...
my short answer is, EDC? 😂🤣😂🤣 nope! but that is a personal opinion. i suppose if someone has some really good reasoning as to why they felt using a single action 22 WMR for EDC was optimal, well, that is their decision
@@CloverTac Oh ok, but a NAA 22 magnum single action is any better? Gonna have to disagree with the way you dismissed the barkeep as a EDC. It has more advantages than the NAA
I have the 4.5"model.although the front sight fell off after around 6 22lrs.and 6 mags but very accurate before that though.im waiting on my rifle/carbine model now.should be in this weds. Can't wait.
i hate to hear the sight fell off... they are cheap, so things like that will happen unfortunately, but they are a lot of fun too. please keep us posted on how you like the carbine and DEFINITELY stay tuned to the channel, I will have a video along those lines you may be interested in soon as i can finish up the filming/editing.
are you new to firearms? you don't have to have a stick, you can actually use the cyindet pin and there have been revolvers made that way for well over 100 years. either way, you are certainly free to like what you like, nothing wrong with that. btw, will be a video drop next week covering exactly what i said here... with examples of course
@@CloverTacI stand corrected, they send you a "little tool" to remove the cartridges. When you misplace that, then you have to go looking for a stick..............
maybe you are ignorant of the variety of fixed cylinder revolver in the past as far as unloading, maybe you are just lazy, maybe you just like to troll, eithet way, you are not alone. buy what you want, shoot what you want, enjoy what you want... just be happy
@@CloverTac Why it bothers you that I would think having to push rounds out of a revolver with a cute little tool or look for a stick in place of that, is anyone's guess. Guess what, I am not a fan of fixed cylinder revolvers either. Though MOST revolvers and every fixed cylinder I have ever used, a separate tool was never required. Seriously calling me a troll because I think a stick is silly? Most people do not like to use a tool to field strip a firearm, and your defending a pistol that needs one to unload it?
youa re conflating a defensive handgun with a cheap range toy and you are also not taking into consideration that literally tons of older revovelrs work exactly the same way this one does, nothing wrong with you having the opinion it is silly.... the trolling comment is simply bait to draw out those who really want a conversation, trolls hardly ever respond to being called a troll 😂🤣
I think... With a 2.6" barrel, it's foolish to not get a 3.5" barrel with an ejector, and not have to walk around with a stick in your pocket. It's literally less than an inch to not have to she'll removal poker. ...and as a bonus, the 3.5" can be had with a birdshead grip.
i think i t is foolish to walk around with this revolver in you pocket, so there ya go, opinions 🤣😂🤣😂 btw, if you think this is foolish PLEASE do not bother watching any videos released during SHOT Show week 😂🤣😂🤣 lots of foolishness incoming
@@CloverTac I don't think I said anywhere, anything, about walking around with this revolver in your pocket... I said "a stick on your pocket". Reading comprehension... NOT like opinions. As far as not watching anymore of your videos... No problem asshole. I will unsub, and add you to the do not recommend list. 👍🏻
awfull hostile in the comments section of a silly RUclips video aren't we? but hey, unlike most who just do the drive by troll, you actually responded, so that is good. let me be clear, my dig was certainly in jest and directed more to your opinon that this firearm is foolish. firearm owners like what they like and for their own personal reasons, which are numerous. further we have lot of new firearm owners coming into the fray every day. why don't we practice being a little more open minded, understanding and just respect that some people may not like the same things we do?
I have the 6.5 in and the 16 in r.r. and just picked up the Barkeep and it's no problem some just fall out by themselves and I also have high end guns but I still come back to these because there fun!
I have one pretty much like yours. It's a H&R .22 LR revolver. But where you load it, it doesn't have that swing out gate deal. Is it still safe to shoot?
the safety lever is not on every single one out there, pretty much just the heritage stuff and the older versions that pre dated heritage. so my questions on the swing out part, is it missing or was it ever there in the first place? assuming it times correctly and locks up tight, it is probably safe to shoot either way. the biggest deal with that swing out part is keeping a round from sliding backwards which would in turn stop the cylinder from turning, not really a safety issue there. feel free to hit me up through other social DM, the website, etc and send me some pics, i would be able to tell you a little more from those.
@@CloverTac Thanks alot sir. I'll just have to make sure the rounds are in the cylinder before i shoot. It looks like it never had one of those loading gates.
it very well may not have. is it a single action or double action? Several old companies made quite a few double action 22 revolvers with a notch cut in order to load but no actual gate. i have an Iver Johnson Target Sealed 8 which is that way.
@@luke8222 yeah, i sometimes interchange "click" with "position". i did release a video explaining how all that works but not sure if i linked it to this video... will double check that. ruclips.net/video/cBrN5iKctCo/видео.html
mine had a bad firing pin had it replaced ,works better now but it still wont fire half of the time with the 22mag, wrote company they didnt evan reply, iwont buy another heritage gun ever !!!!
your call, hate you had issues, i never have had any issues and own many at this point, obviously. i would say get in touch with me through my website, other social media, email through the about section etc and i will try to get you help... but, sounds like you may have just given up hope... but the offer stands.
revolvers in general are not picky with ammo, so no issues to speak of there. everyone has to make a decision on carry or defense for themselves, weighing out all the data. i would never tell anyone that rimfire is optimal for defense. the reason is that rimfire it notorious for going click becuase of inconsistent priming. now, this could be mitigated a bit by using some good ammunition, no check that, great ammunition, like the new Federal Punch (have a video on that here on the channel). but ultimately for me it is not worth the risk, especially when the small caliber and lower capacity come into play as well. if i am going to be limited to 6 rounds, would much prefere the reliability of a centerfire cartridge and the umph of something like at least a 38 special. but again, that is me, i had much rather see someone have something for their protection vs nothing at all. great questions, thank you!
@@CloverTac I dont' mean any disrespect nor do i mean to be argumentative. but i challenge the belief that rimfire is notorious for misfire because of the priming. not to say it never happens because it certainly does but I don't believe its nearly as often as many stories have it. at least for me it hasnt been that bad. Ive shot many thousands of 22 lr rounds, the gamut of different brands from cheap remington thunderbolts, different bulk packs, and what i consider the best 22lr ammo which is anything made by cci, and at the very worst i may have 10 not go off out of every thousand. if i am thinking right this comes to 1/10th of `1%. not bad. and oddly enough the last 3 misfires i has were 3 in a row out of the same 100 round box of cci mini mags earlier this past summer. admittedly those 3 consecutive misfired were in my marlin model 60 semi auto which is very reliable and accurate. i think finicky semi auto rifles are more the culprit that rimfire ammo itself. it makes me wonder if many of those stories about rimfire ammo failure come from personal experience, or second hand knowledge. again, no disrespect intended, rather a personal opinion developed over 50 years of plinking
The accuracy on this mass produced revolver is terrible. I shot mine today for the first time and I'm ready to sell it. It looks cool, it's stout, but go shoot it and it's horrible
eh, i chalk it up to the sights more than anything, the ones i own shoot about the same as any other single action 22 with the old style gutter sights and big front blade, hard to repeat the sight picture with those
I think the rugers look bbetter. Have looked at them at Acadamy and other gun stores and the ones I have seen have a really rough fit and finish. Regardless, if it works, it works.
yeah, any of the single action cowboy style stuff to me is just for fun. i am not good enough with those type sights to even attempt hunting or something like that
Since the first time I saw these, I knew the stupid safety, and a lack of an ejector rod was what it would take to keep from ever buying one. I just don't see what the draw to these are, other than the cheap price... And typically, for 40-50 dollars more, you can buy a Wrangler.
price, nostalgia, etc are reasons, maybe not yours, to each their own... you can't get a barkeep or shopkeeper style in Wrangler though, at least not yet. plus, the difference can be considerable depending on what is on sale, what is in stock, etc and at any rate differences in price point can be enough for some people to go with a heritage... again, different strokes for different folks 😂🤣
Why only 6 rounds? That annoys me.. Being a 22 lr I would expect at least 8 rds. And wish it to have 10 rds.. But thats me. Will you be showing the 22 WMR. model?
no, i do not have a 22 wmr modell, this is the one they sent me. now they do offere the cylinder for thatt and also the birds head grip as well both in aftermarket. they do make some nine shot versiions of the rough rider and while i get your annoyance, these are designed to mimic an old cowboy six shooter, not be a modern adaptation. so being only 6 rounds makes sense form that perspective.
@@CloverTac thought you were shooting a 22lr gun.. I will have to check them out better or if legal here n this LOUSY STATE I LIVE IN!!!!! Thank you Sir
@@jbrown1971 so how am i picking on the revolver and at the same time admit i am not profficient with these sights? if you have watched any of my other single action videos i say the same thing and shoot like crap... don't project something on me just to make yourself feel better my friend.... i am sure you are a better shot than me because well it wouldnt take mucjh 😂🤣😂🤣
I have a 4-5 single action revolvers. This lil’ would just piss me off. I’m happy to say I don’t own one. SA revolvers are already so to reload and you add to that having to use a separate tool to eject spent shells. I over it!!!! Lol. If a buy additional revolver DA for me all the way. I just got a H&R 929. A Colt 1949 Officers model 38 spl. And S&W model 10. MUCH better then my Ruger Vaqueros snd single six, 22. For reloading speed and convenience!!! Thanks for reviewing that little POS. Ha! Have a good one.
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I just bought the 3" Barkeep for $159 today, the reason being I have 2 semi auto 22lr pistols and sometimes they are finicky with ammo, so this way I can shoot the ammo that the others reject, at least that's what I told the wife
nothing wrong with that reasoning, they are a lot of fun
Just bought one super exciting
mine is a hoot to shoot 😂🤣 be sure to let us know what you think
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If you don't like the safety, don't use it and keep 5 in the cylinder. Simple fix.
Good thing you had gloves on to absorb that massive recoil.
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thanks, i do love my retro tees
@@CloverTac My barkeep comes in next saturday, but classic Transformers has been my favorite for a long time. Keep up the good work my dude
hope you enjoy that barkeep, the heritage stuff is super fun
@@CloverTac Wanting to try the 22mag, never used it before
since the heritage stuff is made to do both the 22LR and 22WMR, the barrels are a bit larger bore so they can handle the 22WMR. now they are not the most accurate things anyway BUT typically becuase of this slightly larger bore, the 22WMR is more accurate than the 22LR
Your first time shooting on paper, I was watching your barrel was pointing upward. 2nd time you adjusted the barrel nice and straight. Good video!
i have repeatedly stated on many videos with these style sights that i HATE them and have never been able to get used to them. now this is an older video so i obviously don't remember but was probably trying to adjust my POA a bit., maybe.
22 can kill almost anything. Love mine.
@@dannysmith6035 I love mine also and I have a pretty good selection of guns
Now all they need with it is a birds head grip , and a quick remove cylinder , in 22 mag , 9 shot , that'd make a heck of a pocket gun
you can get all of that from them so not sure they will ever release one that comes with all that, why would they if they offer it secondary, you know. i actually had that conversation with then during the Shooting Sports Showcase. they could either jack up the price to include all that OR just offer it aftermarket for those who want it. the later makes more business sense if you think about it. i 100% agree on the birds head for sure. it would be much better with that. sadly they did not send me one and i am not going to spend money to trick out something that may get sent back once the testing is done.
@@CloverTac well they added a bird grip now, I don’t think they have a 9 shot cylinder for the barkeep only 6?
i catch comments all the time i was not aware where even made, sorry, yup, far as i know, only the 6
9 shot would be nice in the shorter barrel models, for sure.
i was upset with the block safety on my rough ryder it took some working with to figure out now im comfortabel with it and find it easy to deal with just ask the dead ratteler i shot it wont suprize any one any more...also i used psycodelic colored nail polish on blade and notch and gorilla selfe adhearing rubber tape for a no slip grip cover all works great for me
well, sounds like that works for ya... what it is all about
Thanks!
pretty cool!
I have one with wood grip, well built and it’s a lot fun. Also have the .22 mag cylinder. I had to adjust my POA AS WELL. If I leveled the front sight at the same level of the rear groves it went well except a bit to the left. Also have the rough rider and had to bend the front sight which was terribly off.
I have one of these and it's a sweet little gun. I had to work the action through quite a bit as it was very rough and sticky in the beginning, but it loosened up after awhile.
to be expected from something so cheap, right?
@@CloverTac well, it seems like the revolvers that they made 8-10 years ago have better quality than the ones they make now. I bought one of their revolvers back in 2014 and the difference is night and day with regard to the action. Like I said you just have to work it in a bit and then it's ok, but yeah we aren't talking about a Colt SAA either.
interesting... i know i once had a FIE Tex 22 which was the rough rider before it was a rough rider and it seemed a bit more refined as well. i think the time frame you are talking about is around the time Taurus took over, could be wrong on that but think it is anyway. companies will always cut corners on the cheaper stuff, especially when it comes to costly things like refinement. that is why the high dollar stuff is so high dollar is it requires a human to sit there polishing and fitting and stuff, time/labor is always more money
@@CloverTac totally agree, you and I aren't the only ones that noticed a difference in workmanship, still great guns though, ya just have to work with them a bit.
yeah, cheap can indeed still be fun
I love your channel clover it's awesome 👍
many thanks good sir
@@CloverTac great job also thank you for supporting the second amendment
Just bought one in December. Great little pistol, I would recommend it to anyone. Besure to order the ,22mag cylinder .(it don't come with it)😎🌵
if you want the 22 wmr... no point if you are looking for cheap fun
Make this with a 2.8” barrel and ejector rod. That would be killer.
I really love the snub nose revolver style, and this is just great looking. Also it’s a .22, I can’t turn that down
That's awesome little revolver
I might have to pick one of these up to keep in the tackle box.
The gun should get more accurate as you shoot it and get the barrel lined with lead
only as accurate as the shooter and for me, with those sights... that aint saying a lot
Just bought one of these and very excited to try out shooting my first gun! Thanks for the vid very informative!
first firearm? nice! i would likely never recommend that this be anyone's first firearm, mainly due to the sights, but they are certainly fun and the prices seem to be right. keep us posted after your have gotten a few rounds downrange.
Was lucky enough to get one super tight clearances. At about 2k rnds since I first saw this. Was my first purchase of a revolver and i definitely got a golden egg. My other rough rider will hang up using cheap ammo. Case swells sometimes. The barkeep has had zero malfunctions going on 2k rnds exactly. Was also some dollars more. Go figure
cases swelling in 22LR is pretty common, i have quite a few revovlers, even my S&W 617 (not a cheap or faulty revovler) where it happens now and again. keep in mind you don't get anything dirtier than 22LR, so keeping the cylinders brushed clean can help too. glad your are enjoying them, for the money, the heritage stuff is hard to beat, is it S&W, no way but they are a whole lotta fun for not a lotta money.
@@CloverTac absolutely. This was a month ago I snagged that. I had the itch to plink on my days off. I got the revolver itch so I scooped a m200 by ria and while going out with it is more expensive per box that thing is a hoot too haha. Really fun. Single action trigger is so so soft. Have a try on one of those. For around 180 you'll say cool another trusty 38. And again is it a smith ? No but we saved ammo money so we are the true winners
yep, have played around with several of the RIA revolvers over the years and just not a fan. if i am being honest... i have seen a few issues pop up here and there in relation to quality of metal and specifically the firing pin. RIA does make some decent stuff, the AG shotgun and AL revovlers for example seen to be pretty solid, better than the M series. if you are having good luck with it, cool, not for me though.
Just ordered myself one. I think these are cool, and will make quite a keepsake. With that TINY little barrel, not sure what folks are expecting as far as accuracy at any range beyond PERSONAL DEFENSE range, which is the range for which this firearm is designed (not that anyone is really going to use this for personal defense, but it's the role these are meant to fill).
Yeah, 10 yards is long range with the barkeep...we were watching a western the other night and the bartender had a sawed off double barrel that he reached for too late (that's Hollywood for you), but the barkeep is that situation in mind, say 3-10 feet, and I would think back in those days it was probably in a larger caliber...a sawed off .45 peacemaker...?
Would this kill someone at personal defense range? If you got them in the head?
bit of a silly question, it is a firearm, so regardless of shot placement, yes, can be deadly for sure.... that said, would not be anywhere near my first choice on a defensive firearm for several reasons, first of which is reliability issues with rimfire ammunition. no matter how good a firearm is, for defensive use it must be very reliable, otherwise it is useless in my opinion. of course. end of the day though, something is always better than nothing
@@CloverTac yeah it's kind of silly but I've read things about the .22 not being powerful enough to go thru skull even at close range
@@COWScankill2 ok, so, we are really getting into some dicey stuff to be talking about here on RUclips. and to that i am always up for a conversation through PM, DM on ohter socials, email, the clovertac website, phone, text, whatever. to speak to the human skull, there are stories all over the place of various calibers 9mm, 556 and more basically entering under the skin, riding around the skull and exiting without any damage to the skull. so, my take on any defensive tactic is to go center mass, biggest target, mitigatet he chances of a miss, etc. all of this of course is under the assumption of legal defensive use... which is a whole other can of worms depending on wherd you live. pretty much any trainer, instructor, etc will likely tell you the same thing. i can promise you, no one wants to get shot center mass with a 22, heck i ain't gonna stand there and let you shoot me with a pellet rifle.
Love mine, especially with the mag cylinder.
Nice little revolver my friend and decent accuracy for being a short barrel, keep up the good work you got my subscription take care and stay safe.
appreciate it, hopefully you find more around here to watch
I bought one of these, and the shots seem to spread less after about 75 rounds. Maybe it just takes practice to adapt to the short barrel and rudimentary sights, or maybe it has a “break in” period, but for simple plinking it’s a good time!
no doubt both break in and practice are both contibuting factors, yep, spot on. for me, i have shot many thousands (tens of thousdans maybe) of rounds through single actions with old school sights and have yet to get any better, they just do not agree with me. i do a lot better shooting at steel to hear it go ping rather than trying to group on paper but to you point of just having a good time, yeah, plenty good enough for that for sure
Just a heads up it is cheaper to buy a 22mag cylinder from the manufacturer than to buy a combo version. Also it is a great revolver to customize w several options you can buy from the manufacturer. I have done this and they were quick to send my order out asap. S&h was free w a purchase of 50$ or more and 4 thing in my cart and I was at free shipping. Engraved cylinder and texas grips , display rack and gun sock . The titianium plated cylinder offers several color options.
heck yeah, Heritage has a LOT to offer with factory extras for sure. in fact, i should be getting a 16" barreled rough rider with a "rancher" stock kit in from them soon. looking forward to that, have reviewed the 16" in the past but have been chomping at the bit for a Rancher rifle... can't wait.
My brother has the barkeep with the wood grips and it is a fun shooter. I went for the Rough Rider with the birds head grip from the factory and the 3 1/2” barrel and have a pair of them. The pearl grips looked way better in the pictures than in real life and I upgraded to aftermarket checkered wood grips in the birds head configuration. Great feel with the birds head and checkering. I agree that I don’t like the safety. Heritage advises to not carry with hammer down on a loaded cylinder anyway so the safety is a nuisance
@@matthewlose9446 I keep the safety on off and just slightly cock the hammer back to the first click sound. That's another safety. The hammer won't be touching the pin
Just got mine and I keep her loaded with the 22mag cylinder and just love this little guy. Perfect little boat gun for snakes and snapping turtles. Fairly accurate and does the job nicely
thanks for the added info!
@@CloverTac great video you did an awesome job with it. I’m subbing ya
If I didn't already have a Ruger Wrangler, I'd get one. I was eyeballing it a few days ago in Academy while buying something else.
come on man! you know full well you can easily own both with no problems. that wrangler isn't as short at this one anyway. you are just making silly excuses bro. 😂😂
@@CloverTac You're right! I've been kidding myself. I need all the guns!!
@@traumajock now you are thinking right sir
Why are you wearing laser safety glasses?
these are not laser safety glasses, they are a custom pair of Hunters HD Gold
It seems heritage 22 gets tighter groups over time. Or it could be we just adjust ourselves. No, it's the gun.
i have not expereinced that but i suck when it comes to traditional single action sights, always have
Mine shoots rather wildly, high and to the left. Too bad to keep it. I'll likely try to sell it or trade it in on something else.
@@capefearcapt4679 it's barreled at .224 for the 22mag. Not for the 22lr. That's why they're inaccurate.
@@tommyallen3603 I haven't tried the 22 LR cylinder, perhaps it will perform better then.
Looks like a good snake / chicken coop pest control gun especially with 22 mag you could take a raccoon or most small game
yeah, depending on distance i suppose. i don't do well with these antique sights, never have, so anything over about 10 feet is probably no go for me, will just grab the shotgun probably 😂🤣 some people drive nails with these old school single action sights... i just don't get it, good on them
In a lot of these reviews... the comment made is that there is 3 clicks on the hammer... This is wrong... there is actually 4 clickswith the hammer pulled back... and if you do it right...and watch the cylinder rotate...you will see the cylinder turn a half turn from the 3rd click to the 4th click... And this could be why people experience a failure to fire sometimes...because they aren't making sure the hammer is pulled back all the way... or...the frame screws have come loose and not allowing the hammer to fall fully on the firing pin... Just my observance with my Barkeep...
yeah, not so much wrong as mispoke, explained here ruclips.net/video/cBrN5iKctCo/видео.html
@@CloverTac Thanks for posting this... Glad that this video was out there... However... with these Rough riders and Barkeeps from Heritage...if you pull the hammer back to the third click...and then let it go...the hammer will not return to Half cock position... at least on my Barkeep it doesn't... The Hammer remains in that third click position... I'm just saying... Again...Thanks again for posting...
i am not really sure what you are talking about here but then again, that is why i made a whole different video trying to explain what i mean by "clicks" and "positions"... sometimes putting things into words is the worst way to communicate something. i think it is sorta matter of symatecs with the heritage. mine has 3 positions but 4 clicks. when you pull back slow, that 3rd click drops the cylinder stop and does lock somewhat into place but the final click is the hammer set and happen by putting just a little more pressure on the hammer after that 3rd click. so it could be said that the 3rd and 4th click happen during the 3rd position. if you are actually cocking it at a normal speed, that would pretty much be the case, almost simultaneous. at any rate, different single actions act different, as pointed out in my clarification video with the ruger vagquero, it is a whole different animal enirely.
@@CloverTac I am referring to the fact that there is 4 audible clicks...not the functions or positions...
@@CloverTac I completely understand what you are saying in your explanation video about the clicks and their functions... I am just simply refering to the "Audible" clicks when you pull the Hammer back slowly... That's all...
Got my dad 6in model he loves it. I want to look into their big bore 357 mag.
Homey, I replaced the grip Frame with the Birds Head Grip Frame and Grips, love them!!
i will probably do that soon as i know whether or not it has to go back 🤣😂
@@CloverTac Ask Jake from State Farm, most likely not...
Is it worth the time and trouble to swap cylinders and get 22 Magnum for EDC??
my short answer is, EDC? 😂🤣😂🤣 nope! but that is a personal opinion. i suppose if someone has some really good reasoning as to why they felt using a single action 22 WMR for EDC was optimal, well, that is their decision
@@CloverTac Oh ok, but a NAA 22 magnum single action is any better? Gonna have to disagree with the way you dismissed the barkeep as a EDC. It has more advantages than the NAA
I have the 4.5"model.although the front sight fell off after around 6 22lrs.and 6 mags but very accurate before that though.im waiting on my rifle/carbine model now.should be in this weds. Can't wait.
i hate to hear the sight fell off... they are cheap, so things like that will happen unfortunately, but they are a lot of fun too. please keep us posted on how you like the carbine and DEFINITELY stay tuned to the channel, I will have a video along those lines you may be interested in soon as i can finish up the filming/editing.
They are nice little revolvers .
Can't bring myself to get on board with a revolver that you need go looking for a stick to get the spent shells out of.
are you new to firearms? you don't have to have a stick, you can actually use the cyindet pin and there have been revolvers made that way for well over 100 years. either way, you are certainly free to like what you like, nothing wrong with that. btw, will be a video drop next week covering exactly what i said here... with examples of course
@@CloverTacI stand corrected, they send you a "little tool" to remove the cartridges. When you misplace that, then you have to go looking for a stick..............
maybe you are ignorant of the variety of fixed cylinder revolver in the past as far as unloading, maybe you are just lazy, maybe you just like to troll, eithet way, you are not alone. buy what you want, shoot what you want, enjoy what you want... just be happy
@@CloverTac Why it bothers you that I would think having to push rounds out of a revolver with a cute little tool or look for a stick in place of that, is anyone's guess. Guess what, I am not a fan of fixed cylinder revolvers either. Though MOST revolvers and every fixed cylinder I have ever used, a separate tool was never required. Seriously calling me a troll because I think a stick is silly? Most people do not like to use a tool to field strip a firearm, and your defending a pistol that needs one to unload it?
youa re conflating a defensive handgun with a cheap range toy and you are also not taking into consideration that literally tons of older revovelrs work exactly the same way this one does, nothing wrong with you having the opinion it is silly.... the trolling comment is simply bait to draw out those who really want a conversation, trolls hardly ever respond to being called a troll 😂🤣
Nice little plinker . Clovertac ☘ might be cool for a gun at the old west shows. 🤔 watching this while preping brass for reloading
Handy for starting the 100 meter dash, and small varmints. 🏃♂️🇺🇸🐀
1974 called ....they want thier mustache back.
😂🤣😂🤣 been working on my beard game lately... and work is the key word, wow, never really gave much thought to all the science behind it
I think... With a 2.6" barrel, it's foolish to not get a 3.5" barrel with an ejector, and not have to walk around with a stick in your pocket.
It's literally less than an inch to not have to she'll removal poker.
...and as a bonus, the 3.5" can be had with a birdshead grip.
i think i t is foolish to walk around with this revolver in you pocket, so there ya go, opinions 🤣😂🤣😂 btw, if you think this is foolish PLEASE do not bother watching any videos released during SHOT Show week 😂🤣😂🤣 lots of foolishness incoming
@@CloverTac I don't think I said anywhere, anything, about walking around with this revolver in your pocket... I said "a stick on your pocket". Reading comprehension... NOT like opinions.
As far as not watching anymore of your videos... No problem asshole. I will unsub, and add you to the do not recommend list. 👍🏻
awfull hostile in the comments section of a silly RUclips video aren't we? but hey, unlike most who just do the drive by troll, you actually responded, so that is good. let me be clear, my dig was certainly in jest and directed more to your opinon that this firearm is foolish. firearm owners like what they like and for their own personal reasons, which are numerous. further we have lot of new firearm owners coming into the fray every day. why don't we practice being a little more open minded, understanding and just respect that some people may not like the same things we do?
I have the 6.5 in and the 16 in r.r. and just picked up the Barkeep and it's no problem some just fall out by themselves and I also have high end guns but I still come back to these because there fun!
I have one pretty much like yours. It's a H&R .22 LR revolver. But where you load it, it doesn't have that swing out gate deal. Is it still safe to shoot?
Also, it doesnt have one of those safety levers either. I dont think it came out with one.
the safety lever is not on every single one out there, pretty much just the heritage stuff and the older versions that pre dated heritage. so my questions on the swing out part, is it missing or was it ever there in the first place? assuming it times correctly and locks up tight, it is probably safe to shoot either way. the biggest deal with that swing out part is keeping a round from sliding backwards which would in turn stop the cylinder from turning, not really a safety issue there. feel free to hit me up through other social DM, the website, etc and send me some pics, i would be able to tell you a little more from those.
@@CloverTac Thanks alot sir. I'll just have to make sure the rounds are in the cylinder before i shoot. It looks like it never had one of those loading gates.
it very well may not have. is it a single action or double action? Several old companies made quite a few double action 22 revolvers with a notch cut in order to load but no actual gate. i have an Iver Johnson Target Sealed 8 which is that way.
@@CloverTac i believe it's double action.
This looks a nice little gun I'm thinking it would be perfect for a trap line to despatch animals and a good price ,thanks for the review
yeah, being a revolver, suited well to using shot shells if need be too
It has 4 clicks in hammer
huh?
@@CloverTac Clicks four times when you pull the hammer back
@@luke8222 yeah, i sometimes interchange "click" with "position". i did release a video explaining how all that works but not sure if i linked it to this video... will double check that. ruclips.net/video/cBrN5iKctCo/видео.html
It is a good looking revolver. Great video. 👍👍
Are the gloves for the harsh recoil ?
heck yeah, sensitve hands and all 😂🤣
How far are you from target
if i didn't say, probably 10 yards, that is my normal handgun distance with steel
Nice review - I have a Heritage Rough Rider (4.75 in barrel). Really dislike that safety
mine had a bad firing pin had it replaced ,works better now but it still wont fire half of the time with the 22mag, wrote company they didnt evan reply, iwont buy another heritage gun ever !!!!
your call, hate you had issues, i never have had any issues and own many at this point, obviously. i would say get in touch with me through my website, other social media, email through the about section etc and i will try to get you help... but, sounds like you may have just given up hope... but the offer stands.
Are these finicky with 22LR ammo?
Are they good for concealed carry?
If so, I might get one especially considering how cheap these are.
revolvers in general are not picky with ammo, so no issues to speak of there. everyone has to make a decision on carry or defense for themselves, weighing out all the data. i would never tell anyone that rimfire is optimal for defense. the reason is that rimfire it notorious for going click becuase of inconsistent priming. now, this could be mitigated a bit by using some good ammunition, no check that, great ammunition, like the new Federal Punch (have a video on that here on the channel). but ultimately for me it is not worth the risk, especially when the small caliber and lower capacity come into play as well. if i am going to be limited to 6 rounds, would much prefere the reliability of a centerfire cartridge and the umph of something like at least a 38 special. but again, that is me, i had much rather see someone have something for their protection vs nothing at all. great questions, thank you!
@@CloverTac And thank you to sir! 🫡
anytime!
@@CloverTac I dont' mean any disrespect nor do i mean to be argumentative. but i challenge the belief that rimfire is notorious for misfire because of the priming. not to say it never happens because it certainly does but I don't believe its nearly as often as many stories have it. at least for me it hasnt been that bad. Ive shot many thousands of 22 lr rounds, the gamut of different brands from cheap remington thunderbolts, different bulk packs, and what i consider the best 22lr ammo which is anything made by cci, and at the very worst i may have 10 not go off out of every thousand. if i am thinking right this comes to 1/10th of `1%. not bad. and oddly enough the last 3 misfires i has were 3 in a row out of the same 100 round box of cci mini mags earlier this past summer. admittedly those 3 consecutive misfired were in my marlin model 60 semi auto which is very reliable and accurate. i think finicky semi auto rifles are more the culprit that rimfire ammo itself. it makes me wonder if many of those stories about rimfire ammo failure come from personal experience, or second hand knowledge. again, no disrespect intended, rather a personal opinion developed over 50 years of plinking
Does the 22 mag cylinder from a rough rider work in these?
yep sure does
The accuracy on this mass produced revolver is terrible. I shot mine today for the first time and I'm ready to sell it. It looks cool, it's stout, but go shoot it and it's horrible
eh, i chalk it up to the sights more than anything, the ones i own shoot about the same as any other single action 22 with the old style gutter sights and big front blade, hard to repeat the sight picture with those
Maybe you aren’t as good a shot as you think you are
@@alexecheverria8971 maybe you don't listen 😂🤣😂🤣keep on trolling my friend, can't wait to see your videos
Try some white out on sight helped me
I think the rugers look bbetter. Have looked at them at Acadamy and other gun stores and the ones I have seen have a really rough fit and finish. Regardless, if it works, it works.
Hmmm want some cheese with that whine !
wine is gross... got any whiskey? rum? vodka?
Darn you clover, now I need on of those. Bbq loves his. Just a gun for fun. It is a bit fuddlyfe as well. Good form bro.
yeah, any of the single action cowboy style stuff to me is just for fun. i am not good enough with those type sights to even attempt hunting or something like that
Since the first time I saw these, I knew the stupid safety, and a lack of an ejector rod was what it would take to keep from ever buying one.
I just don't see what the draw to these are, other than the cheap price... And typically, for 40-50 dollars more, you can buy a Wrangler.
price, nostalgia, etc are reasons, maybe not yours, to each their own... you can't get a barkeep or shopkeeper style in Wrangler though, at least not yet. plus, the difference can be considerable depending on what is on sale, what is in stock, etc and at any rate differences in price point can be enough for some people to go with a heritage... again, different strokes for different folks 😂🤣
Why only 6 rounds? That annoys me.. Being a 22 lr I would expect at least 8 rds. And wish it to have 10 rds..
But thats me. Will you be showing the 22 WMR. model?
no, i do not have a 22 wmr modell, this is the one they sent me. now they do offere the cylinder for thatt and also the birds head grip as well both in aftermarket. they do make some nine shot versiions of the rough rider and while i get your annoyance, these are designed to mimic an old cowboy six shooter, not be a modern adaptation. so being only 6 rounds makes sense form that perspective.
@@CloverTac thought you were shooting a 22lr gun.. I will have to check them out better or if legal here n this LOUSY STATE I LIVE IN!!!!! Thank you Sir
@@joexg50 SORRY typo, yes, this one is 22LR, edited that reply
Trying too blame the gun cause you can't shoot.
I cant shoot those old gutter sights with a high front blade... thought i made that clear? 🤣😂🤣😂
@@CloverTac yea you did but your trying make it look like it's the gun I have the same gun mine shoots great not high not too. The left or right .
@@jbrown1971 so how am i picking on the revolver and at the same time admit i am not profficient with these sights? if you have watched any of my other single action videos i say the same thing and shoot like crap... don't project something on me just to make yourself feel better my friend.... i am sure you are a better shot than me because well it wouldnt take mucjh 😂🤣😂🤣
I have a 4-5 single action revolvers.
This lil’ would just piss me off. I’m happy to say I don’t own one.
SA revolvers are already so to reload and you add to that having to use a separate tool to eject spent shells. I over it!!!! Lol.
If a buy additional revolver DA for me all the way. I just got a H&R 929. A Colt 1949 Officers model 38 spl. And S&W model 10.
MUCH better then my Ruger Vaqueros snd single six, 22. For reloading speed and convenience!!! Thanks for reviewing that little POS. Ha! Have a good one.
eh, everybody has their thing, their opinions, disagree with you but that is alright too, thanks for adding to the conversation.
Safety along with no ejector rod built in! Nah!😶
The no injector is the fun part you get to know your firearm and it's no big deal most of mine just fall out!
@@thomasviacava4291 thank you for that information.
All junk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!