You actually can convert the 6 shot Heritage revolvers to the 9 shot. Look up this guy's video. The Walk With Al Heritage doesn't actually sell the part(s) you need on their site. He called them directly and they ended up sending him what he needed to convert from 6 to 9 cylinder.
No Heritage will not sell you any of the needed 9 shot parts unless you can prove you own a 9 shot revolver and it needs the replacement parts you are asking for. Heritage put a stop to the conversions.
Pretty simple why the 9 shot cylinder will not work in the 6 shot frame. The 6 shot rotates 60°~ between each shot and the 9 shot rotates 40°~ for each shot. The cylinder rotating hand is different as is the hammer and locking mechanism thus allowing for the timing and cylinder alignment.
With the new hammer design, all you need is the 9-shot hand/spring. The hammer has two different holes to insert the hand. One for 6-shot and one for 9-shot. However they stopped selling the 9-shot hand unless you prove you have a 9-shot revolver :) Lawyers.......
Compatibility with the cylinders was what I was looking for. Thanks you've answered my question. Now since it seems to be the same frame, Changing the hand and hammer and the foot, may take care of the problem. You may also have to fine tune the timing when you change those parts and some parts may not have the meat on them to accomplish that.
Very thorough info, thx! Currently have the 9-shot version, but as mentioned, loading and ejection seems to be a bit more 'fiddly' on this model, so would also love to find out whether it can be 'retro-fitted' to use the 6-shot cylinder. Have tried contacting the factory, but no luck yet, apparently due to Covid.
Yep, I've done this and it does work. however some you have to sand down the rim and some have the inner wings that spread into the wall that will get stuck in the barrel. So caution.
Is the frame it's self the same ? Reason i ask is why couldn't you order the hammer the triger etc and replace the original parts for the 9 shot parts. Just a thought for ya to consider beings you can't buy the whole 9 shot revolver in your state
@@DavesLifeHome You just need to swap out the hand. Heritage doesn't sell the 9 shot hand though. If you call and ask them about it, you might get lucky and they will sell you one directly.
Picked up mine today, 12/3/21, 9-shot, too. I already have a 6-shot Rough Rider (it came with a 6-shot Mag cylinder), but it didn't take long to shot 'em up. Both shoot good. No .22 mag cylinder came with my new 9-shot RR, so I just ordered one from Heritage. My new RR gun set me back 169.99, but I didn't feel it because I used a gift certificate my wife had bought me. Great for plunking.
People: Different website: Walk with Al shows how to change a fairly new 6 shot heritage to the 9 shot version. By replacing the hand and trigger spring and buying a 9 shot cylinder. Now your hammer may need to be drilled for a new hole for the hand to mount but any person with access to a drill press can do this.
I have good news for you. Heritage has changed to a different alloy so those Saturday Night Special laws do not apply to them anymore. I'm no lawyer and I am not familiar with Minnesota's laws about this, but it is likely legal there now if their law about this matched the ones in other states like Illinois. You should look into it.
I just got the 6 shot in 16” barrel. I guess I’ll have to buy the 9 shot then. Good marketing scheme to sell guns. I hear parts wear on these, so Ill be ordering extra springs and hammers.
I haven't seen the 9 shot cylinder, but that would be a great improvement for the platform. It's a shame the cylinders aren't compatible with the 6 shots, but it makes sense.
Thanx, that did help and the first click safety’ no one has mentioned that that I know of, I know on the first click ‘will sometimes ‘ lock the gun, I don’t have that to a science, yet. Thanx.
I hadda 9 shot top break H&R pistol ong ago now. Was Most Excellent gun! Sadly loaned my car out & B/law didn't lock it. U guessed it gun stolen of course. plus lost a Kbar & other items also. So 9 shot is a great idea
Sub'd today so Hope 2 aqjuire a RR pistol someday? As a DAV w/low $$ hang out @ several pawn shops & have never seen a RR pistol pawned or sold 2 them yet? So folks buy them & keep them it seems. TY 4 video inspired me 2 keep on the Quest!
I know, you do say some pretty silly things. If they can handle .44 magnum with less than a 1/4 inch thick cylinder, then .22 is irrelevant and you're worried about nothing.
The cylinder is the same diameter. The timing is due to the placement of the round to the turn required to put that round inline with the hammer and the barrel properly. Because there are more rounds placed closer together, the cylinder doesn't have to turn as far to line them up. This is (from what I am being told) is the issue.
You do not want to fire 22 caliber magnum , in any heritage pistol. Shooting magnums through it will crack the frame, the frame will not take the stress !!! Shoot regular 22cal long rifle only, for your safety !!! Kevin Phoenix
You actually can convert the 6 shot Heritage revolvers to the 9 shot. Look up this guy's video.
The Walk With Al
Heritage doesn't actually sell the part(s) you need on their site. He called them directly and they ended up sending him what he needed to convert from 6 to 9 cylinder.
No Heritage will not sell you any of the needed 9 shot parts unless you can prove you own a 9 shot revolver and it needs the replacement parts you are asking for.
Heritage put a stop to the conversions.
@@danitabugher724 because HIGH CAPACITY REVOLVER
@@danitabugher724lol yeah ok they might have but they stop nothing it's still easy to do without their pat on the back.
Pretty simple why the 9 shot cylinder will not work in the 6 shot frame. The 6 shot rotates 60°~ between each shot and the 9 shot rotates 40°~ for each shot. The cylinder rotating hand is different as is the hammer and locking mechanism thus allowing for the timing and cylinder alignment.
you can replace with a 9 rd paw from Heritage
So can you just replace the hammer and hand?
With the new hammer design, all you need is the 9-shot hand/spring. The hammer has two different holes to insert the hand. One for 6-shot and one for 9-shot. However they stopped selling the 9-shot hand unless you prove you have a 9-shot revolver :) Lawyers.......
I have a question , non firearm related. Those foam pads on the wall are they for insulation purposes and if they are how well do they work.?
They are pads for the floor but I used them to kill some of the sound reflection. They room was horrible for that.
What do you think about the Heritage Barkeep?
I just picked up the 3 inch version....
I think the Barkeep looks a bit odd however it also like it could be fun.
Compatibility with the cylinders was what I was looking for. Thanks you've answered my question. Now since it seems to be the same frame, Changing the hand and hammer and the foot, may take care of the problem. You may also have to fine tune the timing when you change those parts and some parts may not have the meat on them to accomplish that.
Very thorough info, thx! Currently have the 9-shot version, but as mentioned, loading and ejection seems to be a bit more 'fiddly' on this model, so would also love to find out whether it can be 'retro-fitted' to use the 6-shot cylinder. Have tried contacting the factory, but no luck yet, apparently due to Covid.
Properly sized plastic screw anchors are good to put in your cylinder and keep the cylinder and firing pin from being damaged when dry firing.
Yep, I've done this and it does work. however some you have to sand down the rim and some have the inner wings that spread into the wall that will get stuck in the barrel. So caution.
The firing pin block is great for carrying in the field fully loaded instead of 1 short in a holster or rig
my thoughts exactly . a small inconvenience for the extra round , i'm willing to deal with it .
Is the frame it's self the same ? Reason i ask is why couldn't you order the hammer the triger etc and replace the original parts for the 9 shot parts. Just a thought for ya to consider beings you can't buy the whole 9 shot revolver in your state
Not sure if the frame is the same however you are correct the frame is the gun so swapping internals would be a way to have the 9 shot instead.
@@DavesLifeHome You just need to swap out the hand. Heritage doesn't sell the 9 shot hand though. If you call and ask them about it, you might get lucky and they will sell you one directly.
Seems 9 shot cylinder be larger. 6 fine my RR.
Tickle that rear sight with a small file...leaves almost no trace...and it will shoot directly to the sights. Kentucky windage is for the birds.
You would have to rework the internals and change the timing
I have both and like the 6 shot better. Unloading the 9 shot is a booger, and it does not eat much ammo anyway. I do like the birds head grip better.
Picked up mine today, 12/3/21, 9-shot, too. I already have a 6-shot
Rough Rider (it came with a 6-shot Mag cylinder), but it didn't take
long to shot 'em up. Both shoot good. No .22 mag
cylinder came with my new 9-shot RR, so I just ordered one from
Heritage. My new RR gun set me back 169.99, but I didn't feel it because
I used a gift certificate my wife had bought me. Great for plunking.
I shaved my front sight down just a little bit and I found it made it better I own two of them
is there a reason that you couldn't just order a new cylinder hand and hammer
Can you buy all the parts to go in the 6 shot
That is an interesting question and idea. I would think so? Not sure if the internals are setup or designed the same though.
6 shot yes,9 shot NO.
People: Different website: Walk with Al shows how to change a fairly new 6 shot heritage to the 9 shot version. By replacing the hand and trigger spring and buying a 9 shot cylinder. Now your hammer may need to be drilled for a new hole for the hand to mount but any person with access to a drill press can do this.
You didn’t know how to fan it right. It’s fun but not near as accurate. Get the 16” and you can use it as a walking stick.
I have good news for you. Heritage has changed to a different alloy so those Saturday Night Special laws do not apply to them anymore. I'm no lawyer and I am not familiar with Minnesota's laws about this, but it is likely legal there now if their law about this matched the ones in other states like Illinois. You should look into it.
Good info
I just got the 6 shot in 16” barrel. I guess I’ll have to buy the 9 shot then. Good marketing scheme to sell guns. I hear parts wear on these, so Ill be ordering extra springs and hammers.
I haven't seen the 9 shot cylinder, but that would be a great improvement for the platform. It's a shame the cylinders aren't compatible with the 6 shots, but it makes sense.
Thanx, that did help and the first click safety’ no one has mentioned that that I know of, I know on the first click ‘will sometimes ‘ lock the gun, I don’t have that to a science, yet. Thanx.
you should move to a free state.
6 shot is MUCH easier to clean.
I hadda 9 shot top break H&R pistol ong ago now. Was Most Excellent gun! Sadly loaned my car out & B/law didn't lock it. U guessed it gun stolen of course. plus lost a Kbar & other items also. So 9 shot is a great idea
Sub'd today so Hope 2 aqjuire a RR pistol someday? As a DAV w/low $$ hang out @ several pawn shops & have never seen a RR pistol pawned or sold 2 them yet? So folks buy them & keep them it seems. TY 4 video inspired me 2 keep on the Quest!
Sorry to say, title sounds like click bait. Timing would have to be off.
Just a little.
petition your state legislature to make an allowance for any gun make by a licenced company
This Hi-point and Phoenix arms where specifically mentioned in the legislation. lol
But normally this is a good Idea.
The timing and distance between shots is completely different. You will have to buy one or the other. One will never work for both
Sounds like it's time for another trip to Arizona🤗
6 shot is better,beefier cylinder in the 6 shot due to thicker walls.
Wow, your scared of .22?
@@kreepingdeth198 what a dumb statement.
I know, you do say some pretty silly things. If they can handle .44 magnum with less than a 1/4 inch thick cylinder, then .22 is irrelevant and you're worried about nothing.
No way, timing would never work
It is called timing
Ba-dum-bump
lol
because of the timing a 9 shot cyl in a 6 shot would have to be a third larger than the 6 shot cyl
The cylinder is the same diameter.
The timing is due to the placement of the round to the turn required to put that round inline with the hammer and the barrel properly. Because there are more rounds placed closer together, the cylinder doesn't have to turn as far to line them up.
This is (from what I am being told) is the issue.
You do not want to fire 22 caliber magnum , in any heritage pistol. Shooting magnums through it will crack the frame, the frame will not take the stress !!! Shoot regular 22cal long rifle only, for your safety !!! Kevin Phoenix
I mostly us 22 magnum and with you would have told me before I have put more than 2000 magnum rounds through it. 🙄
Don't think so.
Y can't you go to public lands
Where I live in Minnesota its a bit of a drive to anyplace I can go shooting. Where i lived in Arizona it was about 2 miles down the road.
Goddamn ! Too much Bullshitting goin on
Tedious explanation. You get a comment but I will avoid your future content.
Thank you for the comment.