Arya Plays Cats, Dungeons and Dragons | Arya III | A Game of Thrones | Obsidian Nights
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- Опубликовано: 1 дек 2020
- In Todays Episode of Obsidian Nights Podcast we are covering Arya III of A Game of Thrones the first book in the A Song of Ice and Fire Series. We go into the dungeons of the Red Keep with Arya Stark as she chases cats and ends up surrounded by dragon skulls and two schemers Varys and Illyrio! Thanks for Watching!
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You guys did a great episode!
@@Iclyde1231 Thanks love! Always so much fun.
Still early but great job! Love the map inclusion! Now I need to find the cat video, I am sure I have seen it but 2020 has fully shot my memory!
I would love to come on the podcast
@@Twobeless1 32:12 Is this supposed to be fAegon? Ahh I think it’s Varys!
My beautiful Queen with the voice of a Greek goddess, can listen to her all day.
Right?! Lol
How so we know what Greek gods sound like 🤔
not me quietly leaving the math zoom to come watch gray's video.. no no couldn't be me
😂🤣 I love u, but u need ur math bbby!
That part of her training "still as a shadow" reminds me so much of the others...and then, she was chasing a black dragon.
Ohhhhh that’s a good point!!!
@@GrayArea and you guy's pointed out that the black cat is similar to Jon, that kind of implies the others chasing Jon
I just adore the sound of Grays voice
The unease when seeing the dragon's skulls reminds me of the unease everyone feels from the statues in the winterfell crypts
My take on the feeling from dragon skulls is that is the part of a dragon rider recognition system and works both ways (if true, it showed that Tyrion was not a Targaryan). Aslo the take on shadows as big as giants goes quite well with the Varys' power parable about a small man casting a big shadow, seeing how those two were planning a giant power re-arrangement. And the dialog shows that the war and chaos was planned regardless of Baelish, by "more that two players", he just redirected it to extract the most advantage
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I love this chapter because it involves so much potential foreshadowing for Arya's later books. This training she goes through with chasing and catching all the different types of domesticated and wild cats in the Red Keep, building her physical and strategic skills. Later in AGOT, she feels as though she's become the cat that's being chased. Arya doesn't seem to be "losing" herself, so much as gaining new abilities. She's able to take on the skills of other creatures and people, but under them is always Arya.
With the potential foreshadowing, we have Arya 1) catching and kissing Balerion 2) bowling over and escaping Tommen and Myrcella, 3) finding the dragon skulls that she will later see as "old friends", 4) spying on and almost recognizing Varys and Illyrio while they're plotting, and 5) finding a way out of the Red Keep, which could be used as a way in as well. All this could foreshadow that she'll be integral to the Targaryen restoration and the Lannister downfall in TWOW or ADOS.
Varys does not have the realm in mind. He is trying to get what he wants in power which isn’t have the best interest in mind
Exactly how many thousands will die in yet another civil war
Concerning the dragon-scull scene: I think dragons have always fascinated people. As a kid I used to dream about dragons as if they were real- I would have completely lost it over seeing even a skull of one. So maybe it is simply this natural awe and fear that lies deep within
I never realized that cat was giving us a peak into the future . Great Episode Ladies 👏
Gray Area!!!
23:05 Reminds me of the crypts in Winterfell. Likely the mirror for ice & Fire.
Thats what I was thinking. Its like the bones of the dragons know Arya doesn't belong there. Similar to how Jon feels in the crypts.
@@bobmotto2143 Exactly! George is truly a Wizard!
I always wondered if it was possible that the last couple of gens if the Targs had some greenseer/ wargs to them because of the Backwoods having been married in. So is it possible that Rhaenys has a second life in Balrion🤷♀️. Just added layers because that cat got Arya out something that never happened to Rhaenys. Jon's sister connection ect. It just seems too much to be nothing.
Yes! I’ve had these same thoughts. Little Rhaenys had such a tragic and violent end that I could see the trauma causing her to skinchange for the first and last time.
So excited for this episode! Love all three of you beautiful ladies! ❤️
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I like Arya, but I think when Jon told her that they'd find her clutching her needle frozen in the snow (I'm paraphrasing) foreshadowed her eventual death or was initially meant to. I don't think George is going to give the Stark's the Disney-esque ending D&D did.
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Varys is not a good guy, he's been plotting and manipulating things for so long and does not care for the 'people'. I truly wounder what and who Varys is. He has access to poisons and sorcery, he has motivation that clearly is dark ambitions and is hiding his look and we don't know his eye color.
Name one still alive character playing the game of thrones who is a "good guy" ? Just one. 😂
I love this chapter so much, its amazing! Thank you Gray for disecting it!
I DO NOT think Varys is a good guy who cares about the people. I think he has his own agenda being far more personal ("some debts are made with ink and some with blood") and Kevan Lannister is another point adding to that
"That is definitely foreshadowing" Period.
What a fun chapter!! You both did such great work teasing out the meaningful details. 😁
It struck me when you were describing Arya's dreams of being lost in the Red Keep that it sounded eerily similar to Dany's entering the House of the Undying. Both very disorienting, calling perception into question. Also, pure speculation here, but the disquiet people feel around the dragon skulls could be the presence of magic, which you would feel even when you couldn't see them. Maybe all of the Red Keep have been a little on edge all these years with the power looming below them...parallel to the casks of wildfire...ooh!
As an owner of many cats, I can confirm that catching them are hard😂
And ridiculously resourceful!
Your videos and podcasts are great! Probably my favorite asoiaf podcasts because you get so many different reader angles and points of view, every show is unique yet familiar. Keep up the great work!!
Dragon skulls "dont like them" + "dreadful feeling when seeing them"
= foreshadowing to future undead wight dragon !!
The show did it really stupidly I know, but I'm convinced at least one of the dragons will be reanimated!
Great job as always, some really great call outs.
Love this chapter and LOVED your analysis of it. Thank you
I was getting worried, I had agreed with almost everything you all said so far so I had nothing to comment on...
But Varys is just as shady and slimy as petyr.
The show really screwed with his character. He conspired with Petyr to blame Tyrion for the dagger and never bothered to correct or counter the claim.
He fed Ned's parinoia and suspicion of the Lannisters even when they had nothing to do with Jon Arryns death.
Also people forget he was absolutely willing to let Tyrion Die after testifying against some with copious notes the only rescued in because it's Jamie threatened him and told him he was literally kill him if he didn't.
Hey Danny is also the mummers Dragon. She was the pet project of Illyrio and Varys as well.
Ahhhhhhhhh yasss Go Bright Go Tubey!
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Love this chapter!!!
Like you have said before it's going to be wild fire that's going to jack up kingslanding. Danny is going to unintentionally blow up tha spot.Or not Arya reminds me of traumatized people that have split personalities.And i feel towards tha end of her arc she is going to find herself cause she is goung to be so far out there.Thnx Gray for your time, another one.
Aryas story always makes me incredibly sad
Gray Lady returns
in the books, Dany does believe she has to have 2 husbands
Her Royal Grayness, back at it again.. We need a Teflon TV collab..
Another dippy theory, because one isn't enough: Kevan Lannister was one of Doran Martell's mysterious 'friends at court', and it was he who informed Prince Doran about Cersei's plan to assassinate Prince Trystane. To be clear, he wasn't actively informing on his family to Doran; it was just in this one specific instance. Oh, and the connection was formed by Oberyn when his mother took he and Elia to the Rock on the betrothal tour. It fell to Kevan to entertain them.
Poor Ned. He has so much to think about.
Juice Time!!!
I haven't notice, is almost as if Belarion/Rhaenys, was teaching Arya how to hide/run and scape so she wouldn't have the same fate as Rhaenys =(
To think that the cat listen to everything so must know must than everyone, assuming that Rhaenys is living a second life inside the cat =(
What if instead of giving 3 eggs to Dany, they had given a dragon egg to each surviving Targaryen?
I luuuuuurve this idea
True but, i believe only female targaryens can hatch dragons because if men could hatch dragons then most of them wouldnt have died and faegon blackfyre wouldve been giving the eggs.
Well, I think one thing is for sure. They never expected the eggs to hatch
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Howl! Finally, I can build up the strength to return. When my favorite character was saved by Miss Fisher's needlework, I ran away screaming. Forgive me. The candles alight brought me back like a moth.
The Gray Oracle has come again.
Similar to when coach Mickey made Rocky chase the chicken so he’d be quick. Same kind of training style as Mr. Miyagi used for Daniel in Karate Kid. Making them do something totally different than what one would expect to do while training.
I think the dragon skulls are magic and semi sentient with the soul of the Targeryan's who rode them, so yeah they are not happy being put in a dark and dingy room all together, and must be comanding the visitors all high and migthy to put them in a better place
i feel like varys tends to create the chaos that he needs in order to always be needed and necessary.
From what varys tell ned after his arrest the one ear black tom is named balerion and belonged to rhaegar daughter rhaenys
this chapter shows that there are secret entrances to the Red Keep from the outside via the sewers. It might be used to infiltrate the Keep in the future during a siege or something.
Are the cats in the red keep meant to foreshadow house Lannister coming to power?
i have vaguely wondered if that bit about "his father's son" referred to (f?)aegon, or was retconned to refer to him.
Varys and little finger are 100% in cahoots
Great video! Am in isolation because my house mate tested positive so was happy to see a new vid!
Do you think that Cersei will try to work with faegon? Could they take the iron throne while dany is helping Jon? Could Jon help Dany fight them, only to then see that she is mad?
I think that cersei had that fascination with Rhaegar & could see faegon as redemption for that. It was tyrion that told faegon to go to westeros; so could that be something that dany later learns & mistrusts tyrion for?
Am high af on edibles so forgive me 🥴😩😆
I have a cat right now whose still kicking at 25. Id say late teens is a good long life for a cat, but hell they can live to be older.
Syrio is actually Mr. Miyagi
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Could it possibly be that Varys hired Jaqen to kill Jon Snow at The Wall because he knew the truth of Jon's heritage and wanted to eliminate him as a threat?
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I don't think Arya is a true lone wolf, after all she constantly craves companionship and family/pack, so I do think it's an insincere epithet. We know that Ned's lone wolf speech is only referred to in Arya's chapters and Arya may claim herself to be the lone wolf when she's headed into Braavos due to a misinterpretation of Ned's words, but I think part of Arya's arc is about reclaiming her identity and going home and being a pack and/or creating a new pack of her own. She needs to realize that she has it backwards, that the Stark's only started dying when they began to separate and become lone wolves themselves. And I think this quote goes hand in hand with what Jon told Arya in her first chapter about how the "longer she waits, the sterner the penance" because I think the longer she remains a lone wolf the most likely she will die just like Ned's speech eluded to. And since I don't think that will happen, I do think we will see her back with her family and she'll stay with family - blood family or found family - no matter what she ends up doing. But yeah I don't see Arya any more of a lone wolf than any other member of her family at the same time, in fact I'd say some of them are more of a lone wolf than Arya.
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Is back-and-forth-shadowing a thing? 🤨
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Lol I would actually love if Dany had 2 husbands too!!
Varys is NOT "thinking of the little guy" oh my god
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where does it say that Varys cuts out the tongues of the little birds
Varys: I must have gold, and another fifty birds.
Illyrio: So many? The ones you need are hard to find... so young, to know their letters... perhaps older... not die so easy...
Varys: No. The younger are safer... treat them gently...
Illyrio: ...if they kept their tongues...
Varys: ...the risk...
Arya III agot
Dead dragons remind me of the others
Book Varys is sinister in my opinion. I used to like show Varys until they assassinated his character in the last 4 seasons. Varys just became a bundling idiot that added nothing to the story.
Varys was done so dirty hey just made him so boring
@@wisdommanari6701 yes!!!! Thats why I can't stand the last few seasons because of how they destroyed so many intelligent characters.
@@sydnitheromantictaylor112 it always drives me nuts how people were okay with how LF was waken care of because they don't like him. I want his defeat to be earned in the books. I want Sansa to get her own allies discover his bs and do her own little coup not have everything given to her by Bran.
As it pertains to Tommen's death...This is my dippy theory: Tommen and Myrcella's deaths will be reversed, meaning Cersei will drive Myrcella to commit suicide and a Martell will murder Tommen. Specifically, Tyene will hide a poisoned pin or sharp object in her hair, Tommen will pat her head and get pricked, then die within days. I got this idea from the Areo Hotah chapter where Prince Doran pats Tyene's head, and his maester immediately rushes forward to examine his hands for scratches/signs of poison.
Interesting idea. I could definitely see something like this happening. My theory is that one of the Sand Snakes will push Tommen out of that window to mirror Jaime pushing Bran. :)
@@rianbeegles3349 yess!!!!! And in front of cersei really driving her insane and to feel the guilt and pain she caused brans parents only he dont survive of course i think it will be Nymeria Oberon's daughter mirroring how nymeria attacked joffrey and i think tyene will poison myrcella pretty much the same as the show with a sweet and poisonous kiss that she wont see coming like a snake or a sand snake.
@@blacksheep9834 Oooo....good ideas! If we do see Myrcella being poisoned like in the show, it makes a lot of sense that it would be Tyene. I also really love the idea of it being Nym to push Tommen. :D
i will make the lannisters my litter bin!
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The black cells are for the worst prisoners
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Why did Varys and Elirio speak with each other in Common Tongue?
Omg! Yes please, someone else who noticed it. I always found it strange. Like there is something more to it than we think...
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Also which bastard does Ned have?, Gendry is obvious but the way this is worded in wondering of what does Varys actually know
I think Varys is like a politician: he says he works for the people but thinks he alone knows what’s best and he rationalizes his decisions because he think he knows best. Think of fascist lockdowns for our “safety” instead of letting people decide what risks they are willing to take which is their human right.
Varys is all about his own plot everything else is cap he think what he wants is best for the realm
Varys is a blackfire
Varys plotted with little finger to kill jon arryn start a war between the realm then slide faegon and the golden company in
They used dany to get rid of viserys and the dothraki faegon was always the plot
No on the two husband's 😁
Kevin lanister made things better for high borns he has no care for the small folks
How is war best for the realm. If Varys really gave a damn about the good of the realm he would have supported Rhaegar
Maybe Danny will marry John and aegon will marry Val and Danny and John will rule the North and aegon and Val will rule dragonstone
I dont think so i believe dany and faegon both want the throne and will probably try to kill each other for it.
I think you guys are mistaking Ned's lack of awareness for overall stupidity. I always felt Ned (and Robert Baratheon) were GRRM's critique on the warrior king. Ned is an excellent warrior and he is honest and just and dutiful and has a chivalry to him ("he who passes the sentence should swing the sword"), but as GRRM once said about Aragorn from Lord of the Rings, "what is his tax policy". These warrior leaders often times have no skill in politics and I believe he is using these huge clues of Ned (and Robert) appearing to be completely unaware as his commentary that just because they have some good skills does not make them a good king. FWIW, Robert was wise enough to know that only a fool would meet the Dothraki in an open field, so not completely dense, just politically.
Completely agree! Plus Ned managed to rule the north despite the fact that he was completely unprepared for it (his brother Brandon was). Intelligence is always partial, Ned can be politically stupid and delusional, but I do not think he generally lacks intelligence
Let dany have her sister husbands 😂 euron bouta take a shit on oldtown and the faith anyway
Once jorah started revealing viserys lies dany stopped being as gullible and after drogos death she questions everything
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Northerners altogether come out as being quite racist in the stories, only comparable with Aerys and Jeoffrey displaying anti-Dornish racism
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I first read GoT & Ned warning his sons that dire wolves are extremely hard to control, even with training & attention - & then the same Ned thinks that it will be OK to spend a few weeks travelling to Kings Landing, with the King's entourage, with the King's children, with his bitch wife, all in tow, & 2 bloody dire wolves. And one of Ned's daughter's is unruly & hard to control, & she has a dire wolf. And that was a good idea? I mean of course, what could possibly go wrong? I found that to be completely unbelievable, in fact, Ned's level of naivety is not believable at all, no one would be that naive & down right stupid. As if Robert would have a problem with Ned saying my children will join me later in Kings Landing, or I'll come down with my own attendants once I've made preparations because this is a bit unexpected. What bullshit. I love ASOIAF, but fans who talk about these books as though they are flawless classics are totally hoodwinked, there is so much wrong with this story & the characters, Ned Stark perhaps most of all. As for Varys, I don't get that people believe his story about being cut - the guy is a professional liar & deceiver, why believe anything he says, I doubt he's a eunuch at all, the story he told Tyrion, he was probably the wizard who cut of some poor bastards dick. And Dany, they used her to hatch them some dragon eggs, that was it, hatch the dragon eggs & then get killed on the Dothraki Sea, that was the idea, Varys wanted all three dragons for his Blackfyre crew. Varys & Illyrio had to set up Tyrion to get kidnapped by Jorah Mormont to basically get to Mereen to steal the dragons.
But you know that people do not always act clever and think everything through, do you?
@@traumer9622 Well now, what a world it would be if people thought everything through. Just perfect. Nope, that's not the point where Ned is concerned, Ned makes just colossal mistakes that are too foolish to be believed. Especially when considering that Ned's character, as set up by the author, is quite cautious & reserved. So Ned Stark, as we know him, would not do that down right stupid stuff he does, like taking 2 dire wolves on a weeks long trip to Kings Landing. Having dire wolves in Kings Landing at all, I mean that's just nuts. When I first read it I didn't believe it, I thought, hang on, this is the same guy that warns Rob, Jon & Bran against taking home dire wolf pups because they are extremely dangerous & hard to control, but then allows his two very very young daughters to take their dire wolves to Kings Landing? No. Something tells me that Ned Stark would not have allowed that to be considered even, much less permitted. It's a flaw in the story, & all stories have flaws, the author isn't perfect. Like I said, I love the story, but Ned's section in GoT is just no at all believable.
I don't think Varys is a good man at all. He's terrifying, he cuts kids tongues so they can't snitch on him to other people. He is not good, he's horrible, dreadful and a traitor. Robert should have killed him when he won the throne.
Well, he isn't a good guy, that's for sure and reading the books I definetly feel than Varys is far more dangerous than one might think. But I don't think he's evil, evil. Like he can do evil things in order for the good. So that does not make you good but also not evil? Let's just call him a grey guy😂
@@lemya8120 All right, I agree. I don't think he's utterly evil. But the way he just murdered Kevan and commanded his little birds to profane his corpse was horrible and downright frightening.
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