Why is this Brand New Plane Being Retired Already?
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2023
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I took a flight on a nearly brand new airliner that's already about to be retired, on a mission to find out why!
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Just to note it doesn't mean the planes will be scrapped and broken up, they'll be sold to an airline somewhere in the world where it makes sense to use them. Would be insane to scrap them.
Someone with existing E190 E2's will likely scoop them up
Pretty sure Noel didn’t say or suggest these planes would be scrapped.
But makes it sound like they are getting scrapped sure gets more clicks
They won't be sold by Astana because they don't own them. They're leased from Azorra Aviation who will simply take them back. What they do with them is up to them but it's more than likely that they'll look for another customer to lease them to.
@@johnhopkins4920 Actually at 2:59 he says "not long for this world". Not "not long for this airline".
I just flew the E195-E2 with Porter in Canada this past weekend, YVR-YYZ and back. Great flight and great aircraft. So much better to fly 2-2 as a couple in comfortable seats than on a 3-3 A320 or 737.
Roger ! Yes sir -
I would’ve taken a 777 to YVR, i’ve never flown on it but it’s my favourite plane
Great video as always, however the background music gets a monotonous!
Agree 100 %😊
Incredible service for a regional flight for sure. Air Astana clearly goes above and beyond the norm.
Very important information that is drowned by unnecessary music
Agree 100 %
good thing i had a chance to ride one of these in brazil.. azul has a couple of E195-E2's in their fleet
I once flew to Paris from Cardiff on an E195 operated by Flybe (about a 45 - 50 minute flight from memory). I loved it, it was like a private bizjet! Plenty of room, nice comfortable seats and, I felt, was a lot quieter than other aircraft.
You'll have to come up and try the E195-E2 in Canada with Porter Airlines! The service with Porter is a whole new level with complimentary wine and beer on domestic flights!
Noel, you tell us to listen to the sounds of the engine and then cover up the sound with annoying music.
Agree 100 %
Agreed! The music was annoying for a large portion of this video.
Music that looped and drives you mad. Sometimes I couldn’t even hear Noel over that stupid tune
@@davidschad6994 thanks 😊
Exactly
If I have a choice between flying on a 737/320 or an Embraer (usually the E175 in the US), I'll take the Embraer. I was really excited at the beginning of COVID when Alaska put an E175 on the MCI to SEA route AND had blocked seats.
Also, Noel squeezing in as much Scat into his videos as he can while he can.
320
Agree. The 175 is preferred on the SEA to ANC route too
very interesting, and some beautiful shots. When I flew to Astana on Belavia a few years ago from Ky'iv and was checking in, and said I was going to Astana, the lovely agent looked at me with mock severity and said 'Nur-sultan', and then smiled. A nice touch.
You can fly the E195E2 here in Canada. Porter use them on transcon services from Toronto to Edmonton/Calgary/Vancouver
Starting off my Sunday with a new video from Noel. What a great airline. They seem to have an airline they can be proud to have in their country. Despite the chaos at boarding the rest of the flight was pretty seamless. Have a safe trip and I hope your next video is aboard a train. See you next Sunday.
What a cheerful girl at the Starbucks! 😂 I like the E2 series. Flew on an E195-E2, with Binter Canarias, few years back. It's slightly bigger, with about 140 seats. I read that Scoot is getting 9 of the E190-E2, on lease, coming into service next year.
Air Astana can teach Australia's main airlines a thing or two about domestic service. Amazing.
US airlines too. They will literally throw your bag of crappy snacks at you. A bottle of water and a pillow at each seat? Never, no matter what class on a domestic flight.
@@LiLi-ps5vbat least there is still bag to carry. Qantas just thanos snap your bag out of existence here
Ik this isn’t a main airline but when I flew Rex they gave us water that had all sorts of things in it, it tasted nothing like water. The biscuits they gave us just crumbled when we held it.
@@Zay.Loves. That's disappointing. Rex has yet to extend its interstate flights to Perth but I was hoping that its arrival here would bring an improvement in service.
@Zay.Loves. Probably best to remain ignorant about where that water comes from! Same for the biscuits I'd reckon....
Music's a bit loud and annoying on this one :(
Totally agree.
Embraer has my favourite take off roll after the A330-900 NEO. You can really feel the power to size ratio on them. Fair play to Air Astana sticking to their guns in regards safety though, not a cheap decision to make!
I've read that no one wants the A330 neo either...
Recently flew an E190 from LCY to AMS with BA. Impressed by the amount of leg room you get plus nice big windows. Would happily fly on one again.
I have had only positive experiences with Embraer planes, it's a shame this new model is having problems. Kudos to the airline for taking safety seriously though, as well as their wonderful kind flight crew.
My main gripe with them is that the seats tend to be very low to the ground, at least that is how KLM has them configured.
@@jwenting Might just be the seats KLM chose? Im 6ft5 (~2m) and I have not had an issue when I flew with them on Porter airlines on my trip to Canada. I did have issues with seat height on older Bombardier planes though.
@@jwenting
Not when you're in the air. Just saying 😂
Particularly QANTAS.
THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER WITH EMBRAER'S E-2 PLANES OR ANY OTHER MODEL. THE SEATING COMFORT DEPENDS ON THE AIRLINE'S CONFIGURATION. THIS PHILLIPS GUY MUST BE PAYED OFF BY AIRBUS TO DENIGRATE EMBRAER'S EXCELLENT REPUTATION WORLDWIDE.
The background music is a bit loud
Yes and very annoying 😊
Noel, I loved the video but could you please mind muting music for take off so we can hear the engine or lowering the volume when your speaking so we can hear you.
A more sensible option for Air Astana would be to include the A220 in their fleet as a more direct replacement to the E-190 E2. If they had already decided on the A320 to do the job, then all is well. The A220 would be far more efficient from a cost perspective for those light loads since they won't have to worry about selling more than 1/2 of the seats on the A320 to make a profit as they would with selling 1/2 the seats on the A220. Otherwise, that is a really cool flight you enjoyed and sad to see that those amazing birds are getting kicked out of the fleet so soon.
Not necessary to add A220. As most domestic route operated by FlyArystan.
They both have those unreliable P&W engines though.
Last time I had a hot meal on a regional jet was on a no defunct Vietnamese airline call Air Mekong. They flew around Canadair CRJ-900s and served hot, oven cooked, meals on many of their routes.
Many things has changed in the name of COVID as many regional Asian airlines served hot food on hops. I flew in flight from Hong Kong to Taipei in 2018 that flight was only 90 minutes & they served hot food with real metal utensils. That was on Air China.
I just flew on United from SFO to ORD & they don’t serve food no more.
Royal Jordanian has the E-190 E2 as well, it's very nice and they have a more typical 'business class' up front (dare I call it that, but it's like AA, UA, DL First on the regional jets). But the E2 has much bigger overhead bins, so is quite a functional plane. I like flying them on RJ.
I fly on Jetblue 190's. I like them a lot. I am disappointed they aren't better sellers, but I understand they aren't quite what airlines need.
Noel should definitely check out Porter Airlines and their E2s!
I like the attention to detail, the meal served on a proper cloth table mat, nicely presented meal, hot towel etc..
I've flown on E2's with KLM and Swiss, both were great experiences. Being a newer aircraft meant the cabins were very clean and modern feeling.
@0:53 Aerolineas Argentinas just bought more than 15 E190-E2, renewing their entire Air Austral (regional) fleet. Set to enter service next year!
Astana's history: Tselinograd, then Aqmola, then Astana, then Nursultan, then Astana again.
Thanks my fantastic Noel
the Starbucks girl couldn´t stop smiling
I felt her soul leave her when he asked for a coffee. I wonder how many times per day she has to ask “which coffee?”!
People in this part of the world don’t smile in a lot of situations like how we do in the west. Being in that region twice has confirmed that lol. The logic I’ve heard is that if they don’t know you, they don’t have a reason to smile at you as it’s considered weird.
Noticed that as well. Flight crew had obviously learned to smile as part of customer service
With Halloween coming up and you being in Kazakhstan (and being British) you know you have to put on a 'Borat' costume and walk around a bit.
😂
@5:46 @noel Phillips | We avgeeks call this the "wookie Howl" & it can be found on all PW1100G engines, notably found on the A220, E190-E2, A320Neo A319 Neo & A321N and occasionally on the 330 neo.
Well… except E190-E2 engines are PW1900G, not 1100G. 1100s are for 320 Family. 1500s for 220s & 1900s for E190s. Get your geek on, baby!
Such a wonderful meal presentation.
Loving these trips in Central Asia - the culture is interesting and the scenery is amazing
Love your videos😃
All the best - stay safe
Glad you like them!
Thank you for sharing your cool, amazing and crazy trip.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I like your reviews and you have made me laugh sometimes. Nice☺☺
I flew on one of them last year (it was also a premium economy) from Almaty to Astana, amazing experience!
Love the service provided Astana. Nice planes. It does make sense to get rid of them if it doesn’t fit their service model.
Great video as a always Noel.
A very good service for a short flight Noel. I enjoyed watching again thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
@@noelphilips like always 👍
This run of videos is so much better. Very much the 'old' Noel back in his roots. Loved it. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
WOW food looks YUMMY
I flew Embraer E190 or very similar on Lufthansa between MUC and CGN, KLM uses them as "cityhoppers". I would not be surprised if that aircraft will be used in Europe after its Kazakh life.
Love an Embraer the planes for me have always been nice (airline dependent of course). Air Astana have always been an airline I have been interested in flying myself. Great video again Noel.
Outstanding service. Seems like a nice plane.
Wow! Sweet and simple. Thanks. Stay safe and happy travels. 🛫 ✈️ 🛬
Thanks! 😃
Noel great video .I’ve only flown on a bog standard E190 a few years ago . As a spotter , some aircraft are changing hands so quickly nowadays it’s tricky trying to see them .😃
I really enjoy your videos. It really does feel almost as you are there.
I appreciate that!
the Starbucks employee was not happy being on-camera...LOL
That teaser at the end! Cannot wait for the next adventure -- a rail journey across Kazakhstan?
Thanks Mate
These aircraft are not being 'retired', just handed back to the leasing company that owns them, Azorra.
You’ll have to come up to Canada again and try Porter’s version of this plane on one of its new long haul routes. Much more leg room in their enhanced economy rows, either the enhanced service (pseudo PE) or extra legroom seats. They start flying out of LAX and SFO next month to YYZ. (Then try their Q400s on short haul from the city centre airport.)
As for the full meal service, just flew AY from HEL to WAW in business on their regional E190 and had a similar 3-course hot dinner and drinks in under 2-hours.
The E 190 is a cool aircraft and very economical. Just like any other aircraft, it makes sense for some airlines to operate it and makes no sense for others. It all depends on the airline strategy, targets and projections. Are those owned or leased units?
I found it a little strange that you only climbed to FL 280 for a flight of that duration.
Thanks for the video and see you on the next one.
Turbulence, favorable winds, airspace restrictions, all sorts of possible reasons for a not so common cruise altitude
@@edsmale Thanks. Also, failure to meet RVSM requirements (I think) since RVSM airspace begins at FL 290.
that lemon cake looked like butter :D
You weren’t the only one thinking that. Noel is not gonna live that down haha
I remember when they were being ferried from Brazil to Kazakhstan via Malaga.
i have flown in the e2 here in brazil, Azul are the owner of all embraer's planes here and the aircraft is just amazing
I love your videos !!!
I enjoy your journey’s . Wow. You get out Yonder ! I travel by Spad sometimes - Ha !
As previously noted, the audio mix is poorer than the usual very high standard - the music was too intrusive. You pointed out the sound of the engines and then slapped a huge soundtrack on top.
Finally I would be careful of the music track selected, you could fall into the "stereotype" mode. We noted that on one or two previous trips to the northern Asia.
Great to hear I’m not the only one. The same 6 or 7 notes on repeat was driving me spare not to mention the poor audio mix.
I miss watching your video's Sunday mornings (ish) when cooking beef and Yorkshire pud, since you have moved to Texas, lol, it's an after lunch watch these days but it is what it is 😁
i like the video very much Noel keep it up
Thanks! 😃
The music is nice but too loud..
I agree and find it annoying. 😊
No Loo review this time?
@martinaltmann4031 thank God.
Those are unnecessary.
@@clarkmadrosen1780 They are Noel's trademark.
@horseathalt7308 hope he changes that.....
Noel going a little bananas with the background music on this one. Tone it back a little maybe?
Yeah we don’t need music all the time.
Not only was it over done, it was too loud drowning out his voice, played over the engine sound we were supposed to listen to and it was perpetually on loop driving us insane
Hi Noel, hope you and your family are safe and well. Your videos are incredibly well produced and though out. Well I guess as they say, EMBRAER does stand for Every Mechanical Breakdown Requires An Electrical Rectification 🤣. The PW1900G is a geared turbo fan, hence the G at the end of the model number. This is why they make a peculiar "whale sound" during spool up. Being a geared wide core fan blade, and the tips not exceeding the speed of sound ( only spinning at 240 m/s ) , the ECU has a different spool up regime. There is slightly more lag, whilst hearing the gas generator accelerate first. Thermodynamics is rather complicated though its best put down to the sound of the air flowing through the intake stator blades as they change AOA (angle of attack), thus not inducing a compressor stall and the fan blades having a lower mach crit number. This is also the same with the 320 NEO and 73 MAX, having the LEAP engine.
The 321 is very loud on t/o and climb out ! Sounds a bit uncomfortable actually . I worry to much .
The whale sound is caused by harmonic resonance within the combustor portion of the gas turbine. Pratt plans to address this issue with a revised combustor design in the GTF Advantage package, which is the next planned revision of the engine.
INCREDIBLE what a cool and odd story and Air Astana 🇰🇿 looks like a pretty good airline from what I can tell… 😊 Also it’s sad to see their E190-E2 jets being retired 😢however with no Biz Class and a fleet of new A320 and A321neo family jets I don’t consider loosing the E2 a big loss! 😮😂 I can’t wait to fly them or the E190-E2 though although since Air Astana won’t have E2 I will have to book a flight with Porter 🇨🇦 they offer E2 service here in the USA to places like Toronto City (YTZ) Airport. 😂 Also I can’t wait to fly the Air Astana A321neo LR variant hopefully 🤞 as that’s my favorite new airplane! 😊
Was on a embraer 190/195 last year, economu seat on lot polish... as a person who is 180, all looked good
As far as i am aware Airlink in South Africa flies Embraer e190's to St. Helena for those interested.
indeed so. Airlink has 26 of the -190's currently and adding more. Also recently got a couple of -195's that formerly flew for Belavia(two are in still a hybrid livery of their former operator)
Yes. And the aircraft flying to St Helena have their software especially programmed for the unique conditions at the St Helena airport.
Yep they fly once a week.
Ahh that hot towel felt good, thank you Noel
Good service
Hi Noel, Always Nice to watch your new videos. I even re-watch a lot. If you try business at SAS A350-900 from LAX (would be so cool to see) you can fly this and more Embraer with SAS since they bought 6 (or) 8 from FlyBe. They are painted in Norwich in SAS livery. Just a few left until they all are in the air. They have premium economy in the front and if you fly from Stockholm to London (or longer than this distance) you Will receive a breakfast to dinner depending on when you Take the flights. I have not yet flewn this one, but I cant cant wait for it. Have a great new week over there, Greetings to your family, from a snowy northern Sweden🙂👋
Thank you!
Uzbekistan airways recently got some brand new LET L-410 s . I think those were used for domestic flights. Try it if you got a chance.( that's a very rare thing)
Now that was a pleasant suprize Noel.
It's such a shame there is not an actual business class cabin with business class seating as everything else fits the bill
Nice cabin crew.
The food looked appertising
Im very impressed.
Again for a disabled large guy unfortunately I just could not fit into the presant cabin.
Greal video once again
This series has been so interesting
A big thanks Noel ✈️👍
A hot towel is very comforting on the face 😊. Nice video, keep up the awesome work. Hello again from pa USA 🇺🇸 💖 😄. 😊
Thank you! 🤗
Helvetic has the E2-190 which fly for Swiss, so you can fly them in Europe too..Plus the E2-195 that KLM also have n Binter Canarias, TUIfly
For a regional flight ✈️ that offers a great meal😲😲👍👍.. Stay Safe Always, Noel 🙏🙏 ..
Next vlog a Train Transit 💪💪👍👍..
I like your informative friendly manner, almost like I am seated next to you.
I appreciate that!
Keep up the good work wish I could travel across the world
It is such a cool jet now!
I have had the pleasure of flying the Air Astana E-195 E2 from Astana to Öskemen, and thought it was a lovely aircraft -- quite comfortable and very quiet (also just a beautiful-looking regional jet) . I also must say that Air Astana has some of the best service I have ever experienced on an airplane, their flight crews are absolutely fantastic, their food is better than most other flights I've taken, and the extra amenities they provide such as quality in-flight entertainment, cushions, travel cleaning products, etc. are a great touch.
Now that I know they are being retired, I am very happy to have had the opportunity to fly such a nice plane with such a quality airline. Although they have admittedly had issues with the E2 jets, I think the biggest reason they are retiring them is to streamline their fleet and improve fleet commonality. For what they are trying to achieve, the E2 does seem superfluous. I hope these modern jets will go to another airline that needs the type so they can continue serving passengers for years to come, because I really am a big fan of how they fly and the 2 abreast seating configuration.
Got the background music a bit loud don’t ya?
What a great airline and the food looks good too . Nice trip report btw, It might make more sense for them to use A 220's given their long range and low seat mile costs.
Glad you enjoyed it
Air Astana seems like such a gem! Shame about the E190 but it sounds like it's for the best. Another blinder Noel!
I need to visit Kazakhstan some day, it's the 9th largest country in the world. So much to explore!
A meal like that is unheard of on US domestic flights for economy and premium economy seating. Looks pretty good!
The video feels a bit strange without the "Noel Philips Loo Review".
I've been on multiple Air Astana E190s, including the one with the snow leapord nose, an animal native to Khazakhstan
What a lovely meal, and hot towel -- sometimes it's the little things that make the most impression! 🛫🛬
So true!
I’m a vegetarian, so I’d be intrigued to know whether my dietary preferences would be catered for with some of these lesser known airlines. I can’t get enough of your videos Noel! 👌🏻
Most airlines allow you to specially order a vegetarian meal ahead of time at no cost. If a meal option is offered with your ticket.
Interesting video on E2.👍 …but the background music is too loud and annoying, must you have it when you are talking, it is off putting??!! 😳
Great video..
Glad you enjoyed it
No loo review? How will I know if the floor is sticky? 😂
I love your videos and eagerly await them every week but have to agree with many others music very loud, distracts from what you ars saying .
On the E190 e2 is the PW1919G same family engines thats on the MC-21, A220 and the A320 Neo
A very good Monday morning to you sir from Wellington Somerset in the UK 🇬🇧
Morning!
Impressed with E2
What a great airline. Could teach a lot of airlines a thing or two. Great crew as well.
Very nice. Is good.
I've never flown on an E-2, but I'm not surprised you got the same service on this flight as you would on an A320. In the US, regional jets are flown on behalf of the main carrier by regional airlines. For example, you would see an American Airlines flight number on your boarding pass, but the plane and crew are from Republic Airways, therefor you get Republic Airways service on board instead of American. Air Astana, I presume, operates their E-190E2s themselves, therefor you get the same service as on their A320s. And if they plan on using A320s on their E-190E2 routes in the future, that makes perfect sense.