Why Does Chicago Airport Have 8 Runways

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  • Chicago O'hare Airport is the only airport in the world to have 8 runways. it's not the busiest airport in the world yet it has the 3 more runways than the busiest Atlanta.
    other airports like Dubai and London Heathrow which have somewhat similar passenger numbers have just 2 runways. so in this video, we'll see why Chicago airprot is the only one with 8 runways.
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  • @kleeblattchen38
    @kleeblattchen38 3 месяца назад +831

    well saying Heathrow and Dubai are fine with 2 runways is maybe a bit of an understatement… Heathrow for example operates at something like 98/99% capacity, that’s insane… they‘re looking for ways to enable more resilient operations (heathrow with debating about expansion for years and Dubai building an entire new airport)

    • @ulysseslee9541
      @ulysseslee9541 3 месяца назад +58

      Debate of building 3rd runway for Heathrow is a task for every decade of the UK GOV and there are many airport built their 3rd/4th runway in the other part of the world already during their period of debate, such as AMS, FRT, HKG, SIN, ICN, PEK, BKK, HND etc.

    • @GeoMeridium
      @GeoMeridium 3 месяца назад +43

      @@ulysseslee9541 Heathrow definitely needs the 3rd runway, and the economic value of building it would be enough to pay every displaced person 4 million pounds per year.

    • @altavelmcnamara
      @altavelmcnamara 3 месяца назад +23

      Exactly! Just take a look at all the holding patterns during peak hours in Dubai and London.

    • @SYDAirlineEnthusiast
      @SYDAirlineEnthusiast 3 месяца назад +1

      I think Heathrow needs to have both of its runways used for both takeoffs and landings to avoid go arounds.

    • @SYDAirlineEnthusiast
      @SYDAirlineEnthusiast 3 месяца назад

      @@ulysseslee9541heathrow used to have a third runway, though a crosswind runway, but they decommissioned it sometime in the late 2000s, and now, the new terminal 5 sits at the site of that old runway.

  • @jjwwqq
    @jjwwqq 3 месяца назад +499

    1) They needed them.
    2) They built them.

  • @tomschultz8933
    @tomschultz8933 3 месяца назад +349

    This also doesn't take into account the cargo traffic, which is heavier at O'Hare than most other airports that have the same amount of passenger traffic. The other airports focused on in this piece don't have nearly the cargo traffic.

    • @BroadwayLTDProductions
      @BroadwayLTDProductions 3 месяца назад +11

      You beat me to it! Heck most of the 4-holers I see on flight aware at O’Hare are either Cargolux or Atlas.

    • @turkfiles
      @turkfiles 3 месяца назад +11

      Took the words right off my finger tips. Cargo is a huge part of ORD’s flights. Just like Chicago is the freight railway hub of the country, O’hare plays a significant role in US airfreight traffic. Granted, Atlanta is Fed Ex’s home base which is one of the reasons why it’s the busiest.

    • @BroadwayLTDProductions
      @BroadwayLTDProductions 3 месяца назад +6

      @@turkfiles Actually Memphis is home to FedEx.

    • @LightSpeedFury01YT
      @LightSpeedFury01YT 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@turkfilesno, Memphis is

    • @cheef825
      @cheef825 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@turkfiles FedEx is based outta Memphis

  • @physics08
    @physics08 3 месяца назад +69

    This was a very roundabout way to explain two simple things: (1) ORD has bad weather / unpredictable winds (2) more small planes fly thru ORD so need more runways

  • @eddiem461
    @eddiem461 3 месяца назад +248

    Extreme weather issues are “rare” have you been to Chicago during winter. There day to day winter weather is extreme to everyone else.

    • @MAtildaMortuaryserver
      @MAtildaMortuaryserver 3 месяца назад +4

      Also when I was flying New York to SFO they were stopping in Chicago but they used Milwaukee which is more often seen as a Chicago exurb airport. The Amtrak Hiawatha runs every 4 hours and takes a little over an hour to get to Union Station.

    • @areza15143
      @areza15143 3 месяца назад +5

      I think he was talking about rare in other places.

    • @FDDFGGSHORTS
      @FDDFGGSHORTS 3 месяца назад +2

      "Extreme to everyone else". You don't know what true extreme winter weather is

    • @johnmaer
      @johnmaer 3 месяца назад

      You are right of course....but see the comment above. This Y-T video and its story is a near total "whitewash" of local aviation history. Most stakeholders (eg. American Airlines, United Airlines, the pilots union, ATC, the NTSB, etc. etc.) have too much skin in the game to demand a factually credible dissertation on O'Hare and how it developed into an eight runway monstrosity.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 3 месяца назад

      Not Denver, but true for most other US airports.

  • @nelauren
    @nelauren 2 месяца назад +82

    Atlanta is number one in passengers. Chicago is number one in flights. Somehow people mix these things up.

    • @Llearez527
      @Llearez527 2 месяца назад +4

      Chiraq 🔫🔫 bang bang

    • @Llearez527
      @Llearez527 2 месяца назад +4

      Come n find out

    • @andrewsdiamantes8147
      @andrewsdiamantes8147 Месяц назад +3

      @@Llearez527gayest comment ever

    • @Llearez527
      @Llearez527 Месяц назад

      @@andrewsdiamantes8147 yours? U got that right
      Chiraq 🔫🔫 come n find out u wouldn’t make it pass the tsa before u merked

    • @Llearez527
      @Llearez527 Месяц назад

      @@andrewsdiamantes8147 yet u scared to come to chiraq n find out

  • @vanguard9067
    @vanguard9067 3 месяца назад +110

    Surprised it was t mentioned that O’hare was the busiest airport in the world for many years as a part of the need for its numerous runways.

    • @JeanClaudeCOCO
      @JeanClaudeCOCO 3 месяца назад +16

      Right, Chicago isn’t a slacker of an airport. The person who did this video left so many facts out.
      Chicago was the number 1 airport in the world for decades way before Atlanta, historically it has been the leader in Aircraft movement and cargo tons.
      Just before 2019
      passengers traffic 84,649,115 Increase1.69% aircraft movements 919,704 cargo metric tons 1,788,001
      During that same time Emirates had 86,396,757. At the time Dubai was #4, Chicago was #6 busiest in the world. Even 2022 numbers are in Chicago is number 4 at 68,340,619 in the world vs Dubai at number 6 with 66,069,981, follow by LAX at number 6 with 65 million.
      If he only Google and presented the facts this would have been a clear cut video. Instead it is full of holes and not factually correct.

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 3 месяца назад

      @@Jenkmode89 oh, c’mon. Get real.

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 3 месяца назад +9

      @@JeanClaudeCOCO yes, it seems that documentary videos really should review sources more thoroughly.

    • @roberthumphrey1304
      @roberthumphrey1304 2 месяца назад +7

      Look at the number of airports within 1000 miles of Chicago versus Dubai.
      That is why Chicago has more smaller aircraft.
      Chicago's location is why it was the hub of the nation's railroads.

  • @manifestgtr
    @manifestgtr 3 месяца назад +71

    It’s funny how Ohare and Dubai are such mental airports for such similar reasons. Ohare is centrally located in North America so it sees a TON of smaller traffic. Dubai is centrally located between Europe and Asia so it pumps in huge numbers of international passengers.

    • @muzero2642
      @muzero2642 3 месяца назад +5

      Its actually not between Europe and Asia at all. The shortest route goes over Russia, even to the southernmost destinations. Sadly, Russia's war means routes get lengthened by up to 3500km, which obviously benefits Gulf states.
      But it's centrally located between Europe and Oceania + Africa and Asia.

    • @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549
      @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 День назад

      @@muzero2642you wouldn’t go over Russia for any where south of 30N, that’s more than half of Asia (in terms of population)

    • @muzero2642
      @muzero2642 День назад

      @@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 You definitely would. Stockholm-Hong Kong (22°N) has the shortest distance go north of Moscow

  • @Cancun771
    @Cancun771 2 месяца назад +16

    I can still remember flying into O'Hare in December '08 and the plane actually landed some 20 minutes early. But then we *taxied around the airport for over 45 minutes* until finally reaching the gate! It was insane.

    • @realShadowKat
      @realShadowKat 2 месяца назад +1

      ORD is my home base. Landing early often means you get put in a sin-bin or taxiied around because your company's gate is occupied. Just happened to me a couple weeks ago.

    • @whatsamattayu3257
      @whatsamattayu3257 2 месяца назад

      Had that happen to me a number of times on American Airlines. Very frustrating, but more common than I thought.

    • @lukedeulen1830
      @lukedeulen1830 Месяц назад

      Yeah, I looked on google maps once while taxiing there, we just went in a circle around the whole thing for half an hour.🤔

  • @michaelangell4585
    @michaelangell4585 3 месяца назад +73

    Hasn’t O’Hare also increased its cargo capacity in the last several years? This would account for some of the aircraft movements.

    • @neils5539
      @neils5539 3 месяца назад +7

      There are plenty of freighters coming in, particularly 747's from Asia. But they tend to arrive late in the evening because of the way FedEx and UPS hubs work. So most of them are outbound about 2am.

    • @bryant07681
      @bryant07681 3 месяца назад +5

      Yes to answer your question

    • @jonathanbott87
      @jonathanbott87 Месяц назад

      ​@@neils5539 but that still skews their pax to plane ratios

  • @jckyu
    @jckyu 3 месяца назад +33

    I’ve flown on airplanes as big as the 777s and as small as twin engine piston propellers into ohare. 13000km nonstop from Hong Kong and 200 km from Michigan. Really shows how diverse the traffic at ORD is.

    • @bobks1
      @bobks1 2 месяца назад

      about the same as me except i flew out of ohare in the 747

  • @stephenbritton9297
    @stephenbritton9297 3 месяца назад +31

    Many times flying into Ohare on a regional (CRJ/ERJ/etc) you come in on the northern most runway and then taxi for almost as long as your flight is!

    • @katrinareads
      @katrinareads 2 месяца назад +2

      As those from the area say, "You CAN fly from Milwaukee to Chicago, but it really would be faster to drive."
      And by drive, we mean we will literally drive you there ourselves and deal with Chicago drivers rather than let you be so stupid as to sit on those infernal runways. Charlie Berens is not kidding in his videos about Wisconsinites' willingness to drive someone to the airport.
      If we can't take you in our cars, though, we're probably still going to recommend the Greyhound or train over that waste of flight space between MKE and ORD. Especially if you're already south of Milwaukee about to drive north into there, wait in the airport, wait on the airplane, fly, and wait for an open gate. By the time that's all done, you've spent more time and money than you would've on the Greyhound or trains. At least that was true back in the day. Now, we'd probably tell you to hire an Uber or Lyft to take you because seriously, bro, that puddle jump isn't worth it.

  • @codnewbgamer
    @codnewbgamer 3 месяца назад +15

    One nice part is the selection of different runways allows for quieter days for affected neighborhoods

    • @jeffjay2323
      @jeffjay2323 2 месяца назад

      so true. I live due east 4 miles of the newer "sunnyside" runway. when the wind is blowing in a certain way, they are over my house every few minutes/

  • @Josiah_X_737NG
    @Josiah_X_737NG 3 месяца назад +46

    "Mitsubishi CRJ" doesn't exist.... The correct is "Canada Regional Jet CRJ"

    • @patrickpoeschl2966
      @patrickpoeschl2966 3 месяца назад +3

      *Canadair

    • @claycarter3535
      @claycarter3535 3 месяца назад +10

      Official Mitsubishi now that they bought the company. I just call them CRJs

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@claycarter3535 Was this perhaps a reaction to them canceling their own MRJ design during COVID?

    • @45scienceproject
      @45scienceproject 3 месяца назад +10

      Company is actually called Bombardier, the MODEL is called the Canadaair Regional Jet.
      Edit: Looks like Mitsubishi did buy out the CRJ program from Bombardier. I stand corrected.

    • @martinc.720
      @martinc.720 2 месяца назад

      Look things up before you try and correct people, you smartass

  • @TheMaartian
    @TheMaartian 3 месяца назад +20

    I've flown in and out of O'Hare hundreds of times. Except for my flight to France when I moved here 2 1/2 years ago, those flights occurred 20+ years ago. I've even flown into O'Hare in the right seat of a personal twin turboprop. What I noticed from this video is that runway 34/16 is GONE. That was a surprise. I flew in and out on it regularly.

  • @Trainmaster909
    @Trainmaster909 2 месяца назад +5

    You also have a lot of dedicated cargo traffic at Chicago due to the heavy railroad presence and central location of the city, which further adds to the planes in and out of ORD.

  • @KeemBeckford
    @KeemBeckford 3 месяца назад +1

    Love videos like this. I’ve only landed at O’Hare once but the views were stunning even in the snow ❄️

  • @BabyBang17datruth
    @BabyBang17datruth 3 месяца назад +10

    Atlanta has a 6th parallel runway planned in the future

  • @kevindigo22
    @kevindigo22 3 месяца назад +10

    KORD has changed so much over the last 20 years or so.....I didn't even realize both the old 14-32's were now completely gone. The fact KORD is a hub for both American and United, and the proliferation of all the RJ traffic, made things much worse from a traffic congestion perspective for the old 6 intersecting runway configuration. One of the interesting things about flying into and out of the old KORD configuration was the traffic patterns of arrivals and departures when using the non-parallel runways simultaneously. I distinctly remember being on an arriving flight on approach, and looking out the window seeing a departing flight pass right behind us at what I thought was way too close. I am sure the old configuration must have kept ATC and the pilots on their toes, relying on their TCAS, especially in low visibility conditions. I would think if KLAX can manage with 4 parallels, and KATL with 5 parallels, KORD should be able to manage with the same. If you want to talk about runway limitations, you should do a video on San Diego (KSAN) that operates with a single runway, which is unusual for an airport in a city of that size.

    • @SYDAirlineEnthusiast
      @SYDAirlineEnthusiast 3 месяца назад +1

      San Diego is a very small airport. Also, Tijuana airport serves San Diego too.

    • @sabretooth1997
      @sabretooth1997 3 месяца назад +1

      KSAN is the busiest single-runway airport in the US. I believe KRSW (Fort Myers, FL) is #2.

  • @repairdrive
    @repairdrive 2 месяца назад +3

    This was awesome!! Drove by O'Hare yesterday and I am still amazed at this place.

    • @whatsamattayu3257
      @whatsamattayu3257 2 месяца назад +1

      Before 9/11, it was common to see cars parked on the side of Irving Park Road, near Mannheim Road watching planes arrive and depart.

    • @Rattler808
      @Rattler808 Месяц назад

      @@whatsamattayu3257 my stepdad and i used to chill exactly there in the late 80s when i was a child. bird watching lol good times.

  • @EC4U2C_Studioz
    @EC4U2C_Studioz 3 месяца назад +19

    I think you should do a video about the people movers of Dulles Airport. Dulles has 4 runways and plans to have a 5th runway that parallels their 12/30 runway. If that happens, Dulles should handle parallel takeoffs with a separation longer than the parallel takeoffs seen at San Francisco International Airport.

    • @ulysseslee9541
      @ulysseslee9541 3 месяца назад +1

      Denver Airport already having 6 runways, 4 in N-S. 2 in E-W and it is the airport in USA with the largest land size.

    • @SYDAirlineEnthusiast
      @SYDAirlineEnthusiast 3 месяца назад +1

      DFW has 7 runways, but only uses the 5 north-south runways most of the time. Sometimes, it will use the crosswind runways, but only rarely.

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 3 месяца назад

      The IAD people movers are a holdover from when they were designed to move passengers to and from the main terminal and planes directly, and not between different terminals as they do now. It has been a very long time (10 years?) since I was on a people mover where we deplaned to a people mover taking us directly to the main terminal. I am sure it seemed like a great idea back in the 60’s

    • @andykillsu
      @andykillsu 3 месяца назад +3

      Chicago O'Hare can already handle 4 parallel takeoffs and landings at once. Which is the most of any airport in the world.

  • @TheEmaile
    @TheEmaile 2 месяца назад +5

    Very interesting! I left Chicago right when they got approval to expand the airport. Never had a clue that this was how the runways there worked. Also didn’t know that Mitsubishi made CRJs.

  • @wimmcraft
    @wimmcraft 3 месяца назад +8

    thanks for the info ive always wanted to know why. And btw the video was really well put together

    • @Broadvay
      @Broadvay  3 месяца назад

      Glad you enjoyed!

  • @timjouwstra
    @timjouwstra 3 месяца назад +5

    Chicago's other major airport, Chicago Midway, has four runways. That's 12 runways within 15 miles of downtown and within 15 miles of each other.

    • @TheProgGuy
      @TheProgGuy 3 месяца назад +1

      worth noting that midway has 2 sets of parallel runways and only 2 runways are used for the majority of traffic which happen to intersect each other. o'hare theroetically could have 6 planes taking off or landing simultaneously while midway only could theroetically have 2.
      while there is some overlap in airlines, Southwest is huge at midway (their largest airline) while Delta is huge at Ohare. Volaris seems to be split and Frontier, while having overlapping cities, have exclusives per airport. Chicago is in the middle of the country (for the most part) and so many connecting flighs happen here, not to mention the volume of cargo that happens at Ohare.

    • @kareneverman9256
      @kareneverman9256 3 месяца назад +3

      Delta is not huge at O’Hare. United and American are huge at O’Hare. Southwest now has flights there as well.

    • @novelero03
      @novelero03 2 месяца назад

      @@kareneverman9256 You beat me to it, America and United are what dominate O'Hare, with some Delta and some flights from Southwest now entering there as well. Midway is dominated by Southwest, with some flights from Frontier and some Delta as well. At Midway, the international flights are dominated by Volaris.

  • @crawlinaugust
    @crawlinaugust 3 месяца назад +6

    Hey Love the content! Can you make a video about the comeback of A380 now that global airlines has also acquired some and its probably making a comeback!

    • @Broadvay
      @Broadvay  3 месяца назад +1

      thank you so much, I'll probably make one if I can point out something new.

  • @flyerman34
    @flyerman34 3 месяца назад +3

    O'hare is also in the middle of an $8.5 billion terminal upgrade under the ORD21 project which is adding 2 new satellite terminals and rebuilding terminal 2 into a "global terminal". So it's adding 25% more gate space while allowing for additional satellite terminals to be built to the west if need be in the future.

  • @777coletrain
    @777coletrain 3 месяца назад +5

    To be honest, it seems like 22R is used more during the Chicago air show than for crosswinds

  • @Twinsen764
    @Twinsen764 3 месяца назад +2

    This is interesting I am subscribing. Maybe next you can do why DEN has the longest Runway.

    • @schoolssection
      @schoolssection 3 месяца назад

      Elevation plus hot summers.

    • @Twinsen764
      @Twinsen764 3 месяца назад

      Has to be more than that. It's also 100 feet wider.

    • @alquinn8576
      @alquinn8576 2 месяца назад

      @@Twinsen764 if you study the murals close enough, you will find the answer 😉

    • @Twinsen764
      @Twinsen764 2 месяца назад

      There has to be coincidence

  • @alexlindsey6446
    @alexlindsey6446 2 месяца назад +2

    This video repeats the same information over and over and over but with slightly different wording. Let's sum it up. Chicago O'Hare has 8 runways: 1. Because of wildly varying wind/weather conditions 2. The high number of takeoffs since it MOSTLY serves regional and domestic flights (81 ppp with 8 runways vs 180 ppp with 2 runways @ Dubai) The end.

  • @jonasrettig327
    @jonasrettig327 3 месяца назад +4

    Keep up the good way! The subscribers will come!

    • @Broadvay
      @Broadvay  3 месяца назад +1

      That's the plan!

  • @epapa737
    @epapa737 3 месяца назад +9

    My brain got derailed when you said Mitsubishi CRJ TWICE 💀

    • @Broadvay
      @Broadvay  3 месяца назад +4

      I don't know everybody keep saying it's bombardier, but actually bombardier sold the crj program to Mitsubishi in June 2020.

    • @bombapples1
      @bombapples1 3 месяца назад

      Yeah the only plane that Bombardier manufactures anymore is the Global 7,500

    • @45scienceproject
      @45scienceproject 3 месяца назад +1

      ​​@@BroadvayThis is new information to me! Do you know if they still manufacture them under the Bombardier name having been bought out by Mitsubishi or are they actually released under the make of 'Mitsubishi' now that they have been bought out? Super cool video and I learned a lot. Thank you!!!

  • @williamnowacki
    @williamnowacki 3 месяца назад +1

    O’Hare used to have Runways 14R-32L and Runway 14L-32R. They stopped using them. Plus runway 4L-22R is rarely used. It’s crazy

  • @LBUKRK
    @LBUKRK 3 месяца назад +2

    I loved it. So interresting. AMS has 7 runways. It's an Amazing airport.

    • @SYDAirlineEnthusiast
      @SYDAirlineEnthusiast 3 месяца назад

      6 runways, and at most, only 3 of those runways are used at a time only.

  • @mdleweight
    @mdleweight 3 месяца назад +2

    I have done 8 flights into Heathrow in the past 5 months and every one was delayed due to flow control based on runway shortages.

  • @timbroman2653
    @timbroman2653 3 месяца назад +2

    Interior airport footage at 4:32 is from DTW (Detroit), not ORD.

  • @jaimealbiter1973
    @jaimealbiter1973 3 месяца назад +1

    I can tell you that as a former fueler at ohare it really is one of a kind.

    • @novelero03
      @novelero03 2 месяца назад

      Really? Why?

    • @whatsamattayu3257
      @whatsamattayu3257 2 месяца назад

      I worked at O'Haea when Butler Aviation was the big fueling company at the airport. They did all of the private and small airline fueling.

  • @yst8831
    @yst8831 2 месяца назад +1

    I only used O’Hare to transfer to connecting flight but Detroit and Minneapolis or DFW was more convenient.

  • @wolfelkan8183
    @wolfelkan8183 3 дня назад +1

    I think the voiceover on this video might be AI. I'm not sure, but he makes several grammatical mistakes that I've never heard made by someone with such an impeccable American accent.

  • @HR-wd6cw
    @HR-wd6cw 3 месяца назад +1

    Chicago O'Hare is a major US hub, somewhat connecting people from the East to the West and probably even as a major hub between the US and Canada as well. As such, you need many runways to handle the traffic. I believe at one point and this may still be true, there is a plane taking off or landing like every 30 seconds (if you factor in that no flights take off/land bewteen the hours of midnight or 1 am to 5am; some red-eye flights may leave late but I think there is no flights after 1am because its location among other things.

  • @alquinn8576
    @alquinn8576 2 месяца назад +3

    now explain why it takes 35 minutes to taxi after landing to a gate at ORD

    • @Imran-Shah
      @Imran-Shah 2 месяца назад

      50 minutes from St Louis to Chicago, 40 minutes taxying at O-Hare🤣

    • @jonathanbott87
      @jonathanbott87 Месяц назад

      Planes have a "slow" land speed and need clearance to cross every runway (even at the end) and the crossing is cycled with the takeoffs & landings - you're sometimes crossing 2 runways during taxi.

  • @TheSonicsean
    @TheSonicsean 3 месяца назад +2

    Don't forget that O'Hare (not the only airport in Chicago, as Midway is a major domestic hub for Southwest) is a main hub for two airlines, which is a rarity. So most all of the regional United and American flights either go to or come from O'Hare, along with the long haul (to the coasts) and international flights from the hub that the airlines (and their aligned partners) have. It's no wonder that ORD is one of the busiest airports on the planet.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 3 месяца назад +1

      There was a time that OHare was the primary hub for almost every major US Airline.
      Congestion convinced more of them to move.
      Then the end of the "hub and spoke" system due to increasing passenger traffic spread the load out even more.

    • @Ad_Valorem
      @Ad_Valorem 2 месяца назад +1

      Midway is no slouch, it handles about 20 million passengers/year. When I lived in Chicago, I used to fly private airplanes, mostly Cessnas, out of there.

  • @allmightygriff
    @allmightygriff 3 месяца назад +6

    Was this narrated and written by AI. Such weird grammer

  • @ulysseslee9541
    @ulysseslee9541 3 месяца назад +4

    to compare the total terminal area of ORD and DXB,
    DXB is with more larger area of terminal than DXB, Their T3 is the largest terminal in the world with more than 1.7Million SqM
    For ORD, it is a central hub of USA and it is the most aircraft movement in the world for many years due to huge numbers of interchange flights
    I agree that to have more runway for better flexibility of runway usage.

  • @jurti19
    @jurti19 День назад

    Chicago O'Hare was a cool airport to fly into. But that taxing time was whoa. Landed on time with 30 minutes to spare. But by the time we got to the gate. My connecting flight was boarding. Thankfully it was in the same Terminal.

  • @Jeff-gq8sx
    @Jeff-gq8sx Месяц назад

    I guess 32R is gone where AA191 took off from in May 1979 and crashed by the trailer park on Touhy Ave. I'll never forget that...

  • @TheAZPro-yi8bu
    @TheAZPro-yi8bu 2 месяца назад +3

    Because it doesn't have 7 or 9?

  • @gstanley75
    @gstanley75 3 месяца назад

    8 runways but when summer thunderstorms arrive and aircraft spacing is doubled 20 minutes of a microburst takes 4-5 hours of delay/catch up time. Used to cross the country via DFW or ORD 20 times a year. I got good at watching weather and arranging trips to avoid thunderstorms.

  • @TrulyChxse
    @TrulyChxse 3 месяца назад

    Love it!

  • @actng
    @actng 3 дня назад

    the script is a little reptitive but thanks for sharing i had no idea ORD had that many runways despite flying thru there so many times

  • @richkurtz6053
    @richkurtz6053 2 дня назад

    Chicago also does a lot of cargo flights, both national and international. This also further reduces the average number of passengers per aircraft movement.

  • @ccubsfan94
    @ccubsfan94 3 месяца назад +2

    The other thing to consider is how large of a cargo hub chicago is as well.
    The south runway complex is practically dedicated to cargo, unpess youre the unlucky RJ

    • @Broadvay
      @Broadvay  3 месяца назад

      yeah, you're right but you also have to consider that majority of cargo operation are carried at night when commercial operations are close to none, for example at ORD there's only 5 to 7 cargo departures in the peak hours of morning from 7 to 12AM.

    • @jonathanbott87
      @jonathanbott87 Месяц назад

      ​@@Broadvaybut it still skews pax to plane ratios

  • @Emberplayz-fj7ih
    @Emberplayz-fj7ih 4 дня назад

    I have been to O'Hara Airport once cause I went up their for a trip with my grandmother

  • @SecretAsianMan2222
    @SecretAsianMan2222 Месяц назад

    It's sorta wild that you're using random B-roll if different airports. At 4:30ish the teriyoure showing isn't ORD, it's DTW's McNamara terminal.

  • @DC92309
    @DC92309 2 месяца назад

    Being able to alternate runway usage would also help in extending the lifetime of the surface and reducing costs

  • @TheRealMartinDominik
    @TheRealMartinDominik 2 месяца назад +1

    London Heathrow once had 6 runways

  • @savagecub
    @savagecub 3 месяца назад

    And depending upon which runway you land on you can easily tack on another half of an hour before you get to your gate !

  • @jadenfreqedit4585
    @jadenfreqedit4585 2 месяца назад

    makes perfect sense

  • @gnicholson4231
    @gnicholson4231 2 месяца назад

    When Heathrow airport opened just after WWII it had 6 runways. Now down to 2 runways, partly because aircraft cross-wind tolerance limits have increased to normally 30 knots.

  • @bwhog
    @bwhog 3 месяца назад

    Sky Harbor (PHX) has 2.5 runways (the "half" because it is much shorter than the others and mostly used by the air national guard flights and small aircraft that don't require the large runway.) One north of the terminals and one south of them and the smaller to the south of that. Because "strong winds" in Phoenix are usually "gusting to 35mph", multiple directions are not needed. So they are simply aligned east-west, which is basically the direction of those winds anyway, even though that was not originally a consideration. Tens of thousands of people pass through that airport daily with few issues. Delays are rare and are typically caused by issues at connecting airports. For example, if ORD is snowed in, PHX flights destined to ORD can't take off on time. PHX could definitely use another runway but it will never happen because the airport is surrounded by infrastructure now. At best, they will be able to relocate the guard post and cargo terminals, move the third runway a little south and extend it. They they could, say, launch from the center, land on the south, and alternate on the north as needed.

  • @purevanilla4438
    @purevanilla4438 3 месяца назад +1

    Nah dxb having 2 runways and Heathrow having 2 makes me wonder how they even operate

  • @StephenKarl_Integral
    @StephenKarl_Integral 3 месяца назад +2

    Okay, there are less seats per aircraft movement, inducing much more movements than say Dubai, but video failed to address why is that? (along with other reasons)
    1) Chicago is in the middle of a continent size country with lots of routes, of all types. It's a city hub, with healthy business, and a myriad similar cities all around. To connect those, you need many flights, some routes operated several times a day for choice and flexibility, everyday, that's why the smaller planes. Cities like Dubai only have relevant demand on two axis, Middle East/Europe and Middle East/South East Asia and Oceania (mainly long haul except India). Chicago is much more similar to Atlanta, Paris, Frankfurt or Milan on that aspect than Dubai or Los Angeles.
    2) What kind of city is Chicago? It's like London, Paris, Tokyo or New York. Population, ie, travelers doing businesses and goods to ship. You can't compare Chicago to a small city like Dubai, or to a poor city like Johannesburg. The city offers a huge amount of people who can afford air travel. As a comparison, take each capital of any african country, airports with one single runway mostly, because those cities cannot compare to Chicago alone in terms of wealth, population and economical activities. Even Addis Abeba or Johannesburg is nowhere near... no need for that much runways unless showing off..
    3) the reason why Charles de Gaulle or Los Angeles can cope with just 4 runways is..... O'Hare is the ONLY major airport at Chicago. Nearby is Midway, the other much farther are too small (not enough long runways) to be relevant. To compare Paris to Chicago, you must combine Charles de Gaulle, Orly and Vatry for cargo, that's 8 long runways. The same for London, New York, Los Angeles, and so many more. Actually, the isolated San Diego is one exceptionally "busy" airport. One airport such with "too many runways already" could be Sydney Kingsford Smith, or Honolulu.
    4) Cargo volume. In cities like Dubai or Paris with another airport to handle time consuming cargo (un)loading, Chicago has nowhere but O'Hare. That's why the cargo traffic is so high there, no choice but cope with what you have.
    Sure, weather/wind is a factor, but if it was that relevant, most single runway airports would struggle half the time, though, that's not the case. A three day disrupted traffic due to polar blizzard, sure, that's something, but no, constantly changing winds is not really a cause of runway multiplication.
    Traffic density due to aircraft types of all size and operation, sure, many runways needed, but what I wrote above is the proper explanation of why, in the end, Chicago O'Hare dwarved every other seemingly similar airports in terms of number of runways because of geographical situation, healthy economics 360° around, and not having any other choice than that very airport.

    • @claycarter3535
      @claycarter3535 3 месяца назад

      Most of the cargo goes to Chicago-Rockford now, though o'Hare gets plenty.

  • @honestreviewer3615
    @honestreviewer3615 2 месяца назад +1

    Some inaccurate information. Do not underestimate Ohare when it comes to passenger traffic and aircraft movements as it is still one of the top 5 in the world in 2022. There are lots of flights in Ohare, and i beleive the 6 functional runways make landings and take offs faster despite several flights. Im from Chicago and I take Ohare several times. I never experienced a delay in landing due to a congested or unavailable runway. Due to more runways, landings are more efficient.

  • @rtomsa1
    @rtomsa1 3 месяца назад

    I driver by Ohare twice a day. The runway you say is rarely used (22R) is possibly the most used. planes are constantly landing using 22R over my head as I drive on i90

    • @MysteriousMeatloaf
      @MysteriousMeatloaf 3 месяца назад

      Not true. The E to W landing configuration is used 80% of the time. Landing on 22R would interfere with that. 22R is used much more in a takeoff configuration.

  • @flyjagz
    @flyjagz 3 месяца назад +3

    Can you cover how Boston manages it's ridiculous airport configuration?

    • @tjbennett7281
      @tjbennett7281 3 месяца назад

      Quite well actually. They usually don’t have near the volume of ORD or ATL.

  • @jonathanbott87
    @jonathanbott87 Месяц назад

    How does dedicated cargo ops impact plane movements?

  • @dvtt
    @dvtt 2 месяца назад

    for some reason they're always saying it's at capacity and needs to expand... sounds like you're saying it's future-proofed

  • @user-nt1jw3bz7w
    @user-nt1jw3bz7w 3 месяца назад

    They also close all but one runway overnight. Which runway remains open varies to try and spread out the noise to different surrounding communities to at least try and be a good neighbor.

  • @woodentrainseriesofficial9511
    @woodentrainseriesofficial9511 2 месяца назад

    Gatwick and stansted used to be raf bases, hence the small runway

  • @DugrozReports
    @DugrozReports 2 месяца назад +1

    I am once again requesting better lounges at the O’Hare international Airport

    • @novelero03
      @novelero03 2 месяца назад

      I hope that with this new renovation thing that is going on some of them get renovated, but especially the international ones get better lounges! Long overdue!

  • @closenbaseball
    @closenbaseball 3 месяца назад +1

    Chicago has a crap ton of freight traffic. It’s a major transportation hub and transfer between air and ground.

  • @bricefleckenstein9666
    @bricefleckenstein9666 3 месяца назад

    Even with that many runways, O'Hare operates at a fairly high capacity.
    It's not the busiest airport in the world in terms of aircraft operations any more - but it's still very high on the list.

  • @ronpinto9588
    @ronpinto9588 Месяц назад

    It's just so a bunch of airplanes can land at once, then you stay at the tarmac waiting for a gate to be free... for two hours.

  • @mlmielke
    @mlmielke 3 месяца назад +1

    Btw, it's incorrect to say that an airport can't use a runway just because it intersects another runway. My local airport often does both, despite intersecting.

    • @mlmielke
      @mlmielke 3 месяца назад

      In fact, today, they had one depart just one minute ahead of another plane on the other intersecting runway.

    • @mlmielke
      @mlmielke 3 месяца назад

      Oh, now two landing planes from the same origin city are landing on different intersecting runways.

  • @warbird1e1
    @warbird1e1 3 месяца назад

    It's weird watching 2-3 taking off at a time and 2-3 landing

  • @GreatLakesDrifta
    @GreatLakesDrifta 3 месяца назад

    lol, the terminal shown at 4:35 is actually Detroit’s Metro airport, like they’re just picking random footage. Still, interesting video

  • @shakey2634
    @shakey2634 3 месяца назад

    ORD looks much different than when I was based there.

  • @rogerrice1772
    @rogerrice1772 3 месяца назад +1

    Chicago has 8 runways because Chicago needed an excuse to claim imminent domain over the outlying neighborhoods that had, for years, complained about the noise.

    • @ghost307
      @ghost307 3 месяца назад

      BINGO!!!

  • @americanswan
    @americanswan 3 месяца назад +1

    Some other airports have ONE super long runway.
    DFW, I believe, is the only airport in the world with FOUR massive runways.
    DFW has seven runways, I think.

    • @RoyalMela
      @RoyalMela 3 месяца назад

      What is "massive?"
      O'Hare has 4 over 10.000ft runways. Amsterdam has 5, Beijing has 4, Istanbul has 5, Dulles 4, Shanghai has 5 over 11.000ft, Madrid has four over 11.000ft...
      Denver has 5 which are 12.000ft and one 16.000ft.

    • @americanswan
      @americanswan 3 месяца назад

      @@RoyalMela
      Thank you for replying.
      You listed some airports with long runways. I was most impressed with İstanbul Havalimanı since it's runways are long and so many.
      DFW still holds its own as its FOUR main runways are 13,400 feet long each.

  • @trevorgwelch7412
    @trevorgwelch7412 3 месяца назад +1

    One runway is a landing strip for an ET tic tac

  • @garbo8962
    @garbo8962 3 месяца назад +4

    Can remember back in thec1960's when it seemed like planes from New York & Boston always stopped in Chicago on way to California. Heard they now have jets that can travel from New York to Hawaii without stopping. When I flew home from Viet Nam they stopped in Japan & Alaska before we landed in California.

  • @davidhepburn9328
    @davidhepburn9328 3 месяца назад +1

    Imagine how hard it must be to land a plane on a globe spinning at 1600 km/hr!!!(LOL)

    • @martinc.720
      @martinc.720 2 месяца назад

      Look! An "Imagine" (and totally pointless) comment!

  • @radiant47shorts85
    @radiant47shorts85 2 месяца назад

    Make a video on igi airport

  • @austindzik4702
    @austindzik4702 3 месяца назад

    Chicago also does some of the most freight movement in the country

  • @ccubsfan94
    @ccubsfan94 3 месяца назад +5

    "Mitsubishi CRJ"
    Really, Mitsubishi has had a bigger hand in the Tuna market than the CRJ.

  • @mikewhitt4602
    @mikewhitt4602 3 месяца назад +1

    Kudos to Chicago for having the vision (and political courage) to overall the runway layout. This will make O’Hare more competitive in the future.

    • @bryant07681
      @bryant07681 3 месяца назад +2

      Terminals are being done now

  • @andrewdiamond2697
    @andrewdiamond2697 3 месяца назад +1

    1. Atlanta is building a 6th runway.
    2. Chicago needs 7 because of SNOW CLEARING - they need to be able to always have one closed while ground operations clears snow off if it.
    3. The USA has more movements and domestic flights because our passenger rail networks are barely existent. Needing a lot of runways, particularly in Chicago, is a function of the failure in federal transportation policy in the USA. Many of those CRJs should be honestly be train rides.

    • @andrewlorenzo6611
      @andrewlorenzo6611 3 месяца назад

      Where is KATL building a 6th runway?

    • @andrewdiamond2697
      @andrewdiamond2697 3 месяца назад

      @@andrewlorenzo6611 Between the 4th and 6th one, with the 6th one being southernmost. The 6th one already goes over I-285. They had to do a lot of eminent domain and demolish a lot of offices, stores and hotels to do that one in the 1990s.

  • @RainyDJ
    @RainyDJ 2 месяца назад +12

    Is this video AI generated?

  • @RomeoCuanan
    @RomeoCuanan 3 месяца назад +3

    Atc be like: help.

    • @Broadvay
      @Broadvay  3 месяца назад +1

      yeah😂😂

  • @praill
    @praill 2 месяца назад

    This video is way wordier than it needed to be

  • @gregfaris6959
    @gregfaris6959 3 месяца назад +1

    It is simply not true that London Heathrow operates "just fine" on two runways. The shortage of runway capacity at Europe's busiest airport is a major problem for the city, causing untold economic hardship for trade and commerce, and an ecological disaster as virtually every arriving aircraft must be placed in a holding pattern until a landing slot is available, causing thousands of tons of wasted jet fuel burned over the city every single day, while creating noise pollution and increased risk for residents. Those stacked holding patterns have largely been eliminated in the US, due to airport coordination, assignment of reserved slots, and above all ample runway capacity at most of America's busiest airports.

  • @ATrainGames
    @ATrainGames 3 месяца назад

    You contradicted yourself with your closing statement in regards to using all 7 at once, as opposed to 6, and even 6 isn't safe to use. So in reality ORD has 5 runways.
    Dallas/Fort Worth International (DFW), on the other hand, and surprisingly not mentioned or pictured in this video, has 7 runways, and can operate off all 7 at the same time. And the airport is getting safer with new end-around taxiways complete on the north and south ends of 35L/17R and 35C/17C, and those under construction currently on the south end of 18/36 L/R and once completed the north ends.
    Interesting video, though. Thanks for sharing.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 3 месяца назад

      DFW was able to grow a lot bigger before it started getting "hemmed in" by adjacent occupied infrastructure.
      A lesson they learned from OHare and Midway.

  • @HunterRedell
    @HunterRedell 2 месяца назад

    Mitsubishi makes the MRJ, not the CRJ, which is made by bombardier

  • @conorlauren
    @conorlauren 3 месяца назад +3

    At 5:11 you show a couple of planes on final into San Francisco. A very interesting video would be about SFO and its two main arrival runways and why it so often gets delayed due to having to shut down one of them because they are too close together.

  • @desidero84
    @desidero84 2 месяца назад

    The background on ORD's runways was interesting, but everything else was painfully drawn out. The majority of the video could have been a few sentences.

  • @regionalflyer
    @regionalflyer 3 месяца назад

    still missing 32L @ T10 😢

  • @jamesau4296
    @jamesau4296 3 месяца назад +2

    Quantity else... are all Chicago runways capable of handling code F aircraft like A380?

    • @kylegrage8679
      @kylegrage8679 3 месяца назад

      The A380 requires a 200 ft. width (Some circumstances allow operating with 150 ft. width which O'hare does not meet) and usually about 10,000 ft. length. Only 2 runways meet those requirements at O'hare: 10C/28C and 9C/27C

    • @ord4r857
      @ord4r857 3 месяца назад +4

      British Airways uses the A380 on flights to Chicago.

    • @SYDAirlineEnthusiast
      @SYDAirlineEnthusiast 3 месяца назад

      @@kylegrage8679disagree cause the two outboard runways in CDG are only around 8000 feet long and the A380 lands on them fine. Length is not an issue for landing as at sfo for reverse operations, 19L is the landing runway, and it is also around 8500 feet long. Also, Runway 24R at lax is around 8900 feet long, and the A380 lands mainly on that runway.
      For takeoff, it can handle 8500 feet as in rare cases, a Runway 1R takeoff has occurred at sfo with the A380.

  • @lukasboynton5146
    @lukasboynton5146 Месяц назад

    When you really look at it, the city of Chicago has 12 runways😂

  • @Specss
    @Specss 2 месяца назад

    It's not about the size
    It's about how you use it

  • @brandonm5828
    @brandonm5828 Месяц назад

    I can't even sleep or work in my yard or enjoy my pool in the summer bc they chosen to put their aircraft highway directly over my house. Days on end of air traffic extremely low I'm 20 miles west there's no reason for this shit every 15 seconds I get 2 planes 1 just north 1 just south I've put my complaints on their Google reviews and spoke with federal agents who laugh at my complaints about my lack of sleep and crashing my vehicle bc I didn't sleep for days bc of the noise. I've looked into the health effects of airline noise and its tremendously effects and I'm starting to feel my blood pressure change. I can't even hold a conversation in my driveway without yelling or watch TV on full volume. Oh the federal agent responded with he could see there was 1600 flights over my house that day

  • @satishreddy4470
    @satishreddy4470 2 месяца назад

    It is not a Mitsubishi CRJ. The CRJ is made by Bombardier. Canadian regional jet - CRJ