Glad you take on the lower end MacBooks, so many other channels review and compare the higher end ones when most people are interested in the base models cause they are more affordable.
Affordable is a very loose term when talking about Apple but yeah absolutely, i’ll rather buy a ”base” MacBook and a desktop than a higher-tier MacBook.
if you have a 2019 MBP, don't even bother upgrading since you're just getting a different keyboard, but if you don't have the 2019 MBP then get the new one
Of course it would be better to get the 2020 but ... the 2019 is cheaper and I think I can survive with it I mean it’s a Keyboard.. you just need to use it gently
The Rocky Safari Hello Rocky. I have a 2015 Mac Pro. Quad core I7- Probably Similar to yours. I have done bench mark tests on my old 2015 unit and the results are not even close to the entry level 2020 Mac Book pro. So it will more than likely be a big upgrade in every way if that is what you are looking for.
I have the 2019 13 inch version since September and have no complaints at all. I don’t know why everyone is hating on the keyboard but I love it. No problems at all. I have 128gb and I am more than impressed. No glitches lagging or any problem while using 10 apps and +25 tabs at the same time. I personally also like the full touchbar with the esc. Buttons on it. would recommend the 2019 even more because of the price. Trust me you won’t see any difference which is worth 250$
I decided to buy the 2019, the butterfly keyboard is really good for me, fast writing and less energy to push one button. Don't listen to mainstream just go to the store and compare both before buying. For me the butterfly keyboard is really nice. And you get a four year guarantee if something happens,good deal
Luke: "certainly no one with a 2019 is gonna upgrade to a 2020" Me, considering selling my three month old 2019 for a 2020 because Luke made me petrified of my own keyboard: "yeah.... totally" 😬
OMG! I have been looking for this comment because this is me right now. But I'm only considering buying the 2020 because have the esc button and the education discount comes with free airpods.
the speakers are not "massively improved" its just tuned differently. theyre the exact same speakers. I EQed my 2019 MBP with "Airfoil" app and it sounds much better.
The speakers on the 2020 $1700 are massively improved. They have a wider frequency range and built in woofers. But the $1300 model are the same speakers as 2019 models.
Thank you so much, seems like you rather get the 2020 with the upgraded SSD and better keyboard. Even for $1200 vs $1059 you're getting a new keyboard, and a new computer rather than refurbished.
Apple's refurbished is practically new though. There is no noticeable difference other than the price and box. If you blindly compared an Apple refurbished product and its brand new counterpart, there is no way you could tell a difference.
@@nazir.el-halabi I have the 2017 model. I had to change the whole top case last week because the keyboard broke. However, the Apple store fix it for free thanks to the global campaign they released for changing butterfly keyboards. Now, my laptop is practically new, because they changed the battery for a brand new as well. I won't lie to you, this keyboard isn't fantastic, but it isn't that bad. If I'm honest, I still prefer the standard keyboard rather than the butterfly one, but if you go for the 2019 model, you just have to get used to it.
@@xobuddha1381 I haven’t had any problems with the keyboard, but the screen sometimes glitches out a bit. I have had the computer for 2 years. I overwork the hell out of my computer, lots of youtube tabs and multiple apps open
I just bought the 2019 13 inch model today (bought one a few weeks ago as well but that one had bad battery life so I returned it and bought another one today. This one is way better on battery life). I love it. Best laptop ever. I recommend it to anyone who wants to buy a laptop. They actually only sell the 2019 models in the stores over where I live right now. Won't be getting a new one until this one dies on me or until they come out with one that has something I really want that I can't have on this laptop. Really nice laptop.
i was about to buy the base model 2020 mbp in store and i stopped last moment bcz i just realized that it is so much money to pay on a mac with upgraded keyboard (literally costs 1700$ in Norway), so i might pick up the mbp 2019 base model tomorrow instead for like 1300$. How are u liking the keyboard so far?
@@nazir.el-halabi A lot of people say they don't like the keyboard. I actually don't mind it. It's actually quite nice in my opinion. I got used to it very quick. If you do end up getting the 2019 model, enjoy it. It's really nice.
Great video. I have the base 2019 13", which i purchased as an open box back in January for about $900. I was considering upgrading to the new model and maxing it out, but decided to just keep the 2019 13" and get the 16" as well. I use the 2019 13" for working on the road, or traveling...the 16" is my main powerhouse at home.
That the speakers sound slightly more bass heavy makes sense actually. The speakers itself might be the same, but the housing itself (the macbook) has changed slightly, so this has an impact on the acoustics. Having slightly larger holes and a bigger chassis can have a huge impact on audio quality. At least, I had this experience with building speakers. Great video Luke, love your content ❤️
I've had the MacBook Pro 2019 for about a month and the keyboard is fine. Honestly, I like the butterfly keyboard more than the magic keyboard because it's more clicky and the feedback that you get when you type is very satisfying. And with so many online meetings the better microphone quality is great.
Vladimir Vatrai i’m about tu buy a new macbook pro and I was planning on getting the 2019 one because now its cheaper but why is everyone saying that the keyboard is bad?
DDD Alanis ITS because of the older versions like the 2016 MBP where the keys would suddenly stop working? but I have the 2019 MBP for almost 1 year and still haven’t had any issues. People are just overreacting. With this 2019 MBP keyboard version there is really nothing to be afraid of. If you just google there are significant less people who experience defective keys with the 2019 version. So again there is nothing to be afraid of. The 2019 model works great.
I do have to say that the 2019 looks better. There’s something about that flat keyboard and longer touchbar that just makes it look sleeker and more complete.
At least I don’t feel too bad with my 2019 Pro bought last fall. I needed one at the time and my plan was to sell it and get a new one when they came out. But with the still 8th gen cpu in the equivalent model it really feels like too much money and hassle to switch. And I still have that 4 year keyboard warranty.
yeah, first I was also kind of sad about it, but I have 4 years of keyboard warranty and by that time I should be able to replace it to a new one 🤷♂️ Took lots of saving but the performance is at least still decent 😂
I would avoid the butterfly keyboards at all cost. They will get repaired if they fail, but only for a limited amount of time. If the keyboard breaks one day after the repair service expires, that MacBook will turn into a very expensive brick that can't really be fixed. I think that'll also hurt the used market, as we have now about 5 generations of Macbooks that nobody really wants to own because of the risk that the keyboard may most certainly break at some point. We unfortunately have to stick with the up to 2015 models (hopefully those without staingate) until the 2020 models become affordable in a few years.
So I just bought the 16inch yesterday and what you said in the last minute of the video solidified my purchase. I was considering maybe moving to the 2020 13 inch MBP, but I'll be sticking with this one!
Luke I love your videos, your reviews are incredible, and so in depth. Currently commenting via my brand new 2020 MBP that my boyfriend got me today as a gift. Finally after 9 years, I have an upgrade from my late 2011 model. Anyways, thanks for all the great videos. Love the subreddit also.
So, I’m finally pulling the trigger and upgrading my very tired Mid 2012 MBP which to be honest, I do web design and graphics design and that poor old guy maxed out with 16gb ram and a 500gb SSD has held up extremely well. The display (Pre Retina) is really showing it’s age now so, it’ll go into semi retirement. I decided to spend the extra money for the 2020 mainly because of the keyboard. In stating in the video “if you can live with the butterfly keyboard” you need to consider that it is a gamble. Living with that keyboard could be simply dealing with it’s feel to unexpected periods of time that your keyboard is unusable, possibly even requiring going without the machine to have the entire upper portion of the case replaced. For me that gamble made it worth spending a little extra money to avoid. Awesome comparison video btw, thank you for posting it :)
I'm watching this video from my new 2020 base model MacBook Pro, and I should say, it is awesome! I love that machine and I feel like I can go with that beastie boy for at least 5 years.
Thanks for this video! This comparison was extremely useful! I'm debating a similar thing myself with the 2019 MBP vs a 2020 MBA and you've helped a lot with this comparison. Now I just have to wait for a new stock of refurbished MBP to buy (up here in Canada).
cmon man what is all the hate for the 2019 macbook pro??? just because it has a bad keyboard dosn't mean it's bad, it's a Perfectly good laptop plus they are all good laptops!
My 2019 mbp doing good 5 months in.. Keyboard is fine and this generation of butterfly keyboard is very Reliable plus 4 years of warrenty for ( Just in case) so overall it's a Good buy if you're getting a Good deal on it. Peace
same here. been using my macbook pro 2019 model and so far so good. no issues or complaints. the butterfly keyboard is fine although, i do use an external keyboard since i prefer using it rather than using the macbook’s keyboard. i only use the internal keyboard when im outside. i work from home btw.
I am a Graphic Designer . My 2011 Macbook Pro was nearly indestructible, suffering only one hardware failure in 2018. I retired and recycled it. I then bought a 2019 Macbook Pro, Intel I-9 processor, 32GB RAM and over $4K. Within that year I had my business put entirely on hold, suffering three keyboard trackpad failures in the last four months. It is currently out for repair now for the third time under the Keyboard Service Program for MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro... (Yes, they're so bad they actually have a replacement program) with the end result being, after FOUR FAILURES WITHIN ONE YEAR they will replace it with a new MacBook Pro. So what's the big deal? One more repair and I'm home free, right? I would be getting a new one? Right? Wrong... The issue with that is the ones currently on the shelves right now (and I would be due) have the EXACT SAME COMPONENTS... A Butterfly Keyboard (Google that, you won't like what you see) trackpad, speakers and battery (and as they are now) all GLUED to the replacement "top case" forming a single part that has an out of warranty price tag of $1000. (That information and the quote, I got from an Apple Certified Reseller/Repair shop, in person last Saturday.) They simply cannot just replace individual components they must replace the entire "topcase" When any one component fails. (They can't even replace just the battery.) So again whats' the big deal? Okay maybe for someone who lives within walking distance of an authorized repair center there's nothing wrong with that.. and you are okay spending more than a thousand dollars per year on your computer.... I don't and I am not okay that sort of expense. If you're like me, be prepared to experience what I have so far... In the past four months I've had "23 telephone calls, totaling better than 6 hours", needlessly driven 120 miles total to ship it off three times for repair, a string of emails as long as my arm... 100 "I'm Sorry's" (More if you count the ones in writing) and I am still not done with the third repair. It happened to me, it could happen to you.... There is nothing Pro about a MacBook Pro. Buyer Beware.
I wouldn’t get a Mac with the butterfly keyboard. I have a 2017 MacBook Pro 13, and it is going to be on its fourth keyboard after the quarantine is over.
“Performance on average is 1% faster. But 2020 is 500 MB faster in both read and write tests.” 😄 this is exactly the marketing techniques sales people use to confuse buyers. 🤷♂️ why would you jump from percents to megabytes?
Is it perfect with catalina? Coz mine is the macbook with sierra installed. Do u think catalina runs better than sierra on this mackbook ? Pls let me know. Im in dilemma .
You confused me, sometimes 2019 is on the right and sometimes on the left. Appreciate if you will stick one item on the same side in comparing next time. Nice comparison by the way.
I would like to get one of these new 2020 MacBook Pro 13" models. I could see this replacing my 2015 MacBook Pro for editing on the go. Especially with the i7 and 32GB of RAM. (:
You could actually get a 1% difference in CPU speed from 2 models of the same year and make as well. Every chip is slightly different so 1% is within margin of error for chip-to-chip variance. If you get 10 2019 13", I'm sure some of them will also be ±1% from each other
I got used to the Butterfly keyboard to the point where any other keyboard is too archaic. But honestly, it took me a good 3 months to get used it. But now my typing speed is faster than it has ever been.
just got the MBP 19, and I'm digging it! hell could have gotten the 20 but would have to wait one month. this is the best mac replacement, which had air 2016. price was a major factor.
As was mentioned, IMO the most important thing about the keyboard is reliability. Notebook (especially MacBook) is a buy for several years. If there is something reducing the lifetime that can be avoided - better do that. So I would go for 2020 MBP only because keyboard is slightly more reliable. (and Escape button too 😁)
Eh bit annoyed at the timing - I just got a new 2019 MacBook Pro 256gb model couple months back, even though I knew this was coming, I really did need to upgrade my very old trustee 2012 MacBook at this point or I would have been left without a laptop in the lockdown. 😛 Oh well, I would have been happy with double the storage at the same price and slightly better specs, but very happy with my 2019 one overall 🤞🏻
i also use mbp 2019 the keyboard is not that bad. its fine and gets the job done. however i do use an external keyboard whenever im working on my laptop. i only use the macbooks internal keyboard when im out
I had and still use an old 2015 15 inch MBP and a 2017 13 inch MBP with the horrible butterfly. This year I went for this combo: 16 inch MBP + 2020 MacBook Air with 16/512. Here in Italy the 4 Thunderbolt 13 inch MBP starts from 2229 Euros. At that price point the 16 inch is a no brainer! That's why for travel and light usage I went for an Air with 16/512. At home and office I got a 16 inch
I bought the 2019 a moth ago, so far so good. The thing was that I bought it just before the lockdown and before the macstores closed indefinitely, so I'm pretty happy with my purchase (I use it for data analysis ).
@@babacool81 Any unix based OS is good for coding (I'm talking to you linux), but I bought the 250gb given that I need to manage quite large files (I don't think it's enogh but it's what I could afford) a cloud or external hard drive is definitely needed, personally I use both, I have my 1 tb external hard drive and my personal cloud at CERN.
I was waiting to purchase my first MacBook but was disappointed in the 2020 specs. So I just purchased a mid 2012 MacBook Pro instead. Hopefully in 2021 Apple will step up their game. Thanks to all your videos. Cheers!!
Get a 2019 , and get a samsung usb-c drive and you could save a lot. You can plug in a 256gb for apps and stuff and then have the standard ssd (128gb) as your small important work drive for when you need stuff every time .
great video! the thing that impressed the most so far about this video was you noticing the tiny little changes between the 2019 and the 2020 models regarding the speaker holes and the trackpad differences! as a designer I really appreciated your eye for detail because otherwise I would not have noticed at all! things like these make youtubers like you stand out from the crowd. going to watch a few more videos and you may have earned yourself a new subscriber! thank you for the great review!
I had a 12 inch MacBook and I never had an issue with the Butterfly Keyboard. I had to upgrade to the 16 inch Pro for work, but I’d still have the 12 inch. My point: if you can save money, the Butterfly Keyboard on the 2019 13 inch shouldn’t deter you.
Just purchased a may 2019 2.8ghz i7 1tb for $1899 new at Bestbuy. It wasnt even on the display deck. After my research it seems like a decent deal if we're talking value
Luke - nobody will upgrade from 2019 MBP 13 to 2020 Me - seriously thinking to upgrade from my almost base model 2019 (256 GB, i5, 2TBT) to the new 2020 with 10th gen
Interesting video! I just bought a Late 2019 MacBook Pro 13inch with Four Thunderbolts 3 Ports in January of this year... I didn't know they would release a new one this fast, but I get more speed with the processor. (2.4 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5) I would liked the memory to be more than 8GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3. I got the 512GB of storage. I don't mind the keyboard! I have not had any problems with it. I use my laptop mainly for college. I had a 2011 MacBook Pro 13inch, so I'd say this was a good buy!!! I do have AppleCare+ for my new MacBook Pro for 3 years. Your thoughts? I wish you did videos on higher trend models of the 2019 vs 2020.
by the way I have been using 2019 MacBook Pro with butterfly keyboard and so far I have not come across any kind of malfunctioning like sticky keyboard or typing difficulty, which I feel something better and new Apple developed but was not accepted by users so far (Just an opinion)
Excelent video as always! But let me ask: Why do you think the 2017 macbook pro base model (no touchbar) AND dual-core is still more expensive than the 2019 base model with touch bar and quad-core? (apple's refurbished)
BTW this video was edited on the 2020 base model MacBook Pro. 4K is totally doable on this thing
Should I expect a different result from Premiere Pro?
Why didn't you compare the displays?
on apple uk a refurbished 13 macbook pro 2019 is 979 gbp atm mmmmmmmm tempted
@@mraravind1111 it's been said they are the exact same displays, absolutely no difference whatsoever
Hey, just wanted to let you know that there’s some grammar issues in the description. Love your videos!
Now that the 2020 MacBook Pro came out I can get the 2010 MacBook
mycemie ☠️
Omg hahaha, i cant even afford a Macintosh from the 1980s
Ahaha same
how embarrassing
My first laptop will be MacBook Pro 13 2020 im so excited 😆 its coming next week mines come from hongkong and i live in Philippines
Glad you take on the lower end MacBooks, so many other channels review and compare the higher end ones when most people are interested in the base models cause they are more affordable.
Affordable is a very loose term when talking about Apple but yeah absolutely, i’ll rather buy a ”base” MacBook and a desktop than a higher-tier MacBook.
Points for noticing the holes in the speaker grill and the tiny differences in the trackpad size. First time I hear this!
right, he's super in depth always!
“cOuLd I SuRVIV3 with a butterfly keyboard.....”
Yes... yes you could.
The 1% speed increase on the 2020 is from the rounded edges on the trackpad
Just got a 2019 model and love it. It also has the four ports and paid the same as I would've for the 2020 base model
I own the 2019 baseline and it’s terrific. Low end video and photo editing are fine and outperform expectations.
if you have a 2019 MBP, don't even bother upgrading since you're just getting a different keyboard, but if you don't have the 2019 MBP then get the new one
what if i have the 2016
@@therockysafari4302 That depends on what you use ur macbook pro for
Of course it would be better to get the 2020 but ... the 2019 is cheaper and I think I can survive with it I mean it’s a Keyboard.. you just need to use it gently
The Rocky Safari Hello Rocky. I have a 2015 Mac Pro. Quad core I7- Probably Similar to yours. I have done bench mark tests on my old 2015 unit and the results are not even close to the entry level 2020 Mac Book pro. So it will more than likely be a big upgrade in every way if that is what you are looking for.
I wanted to upgrade, the heat problem Is solved on 2020?
*_I love to watch the difference between macbook pro_*
_But i don't have any_
🤷♀️ 🤷♀️
faith izebizua I have a 2012 fully upgraded thanks to Luke’s videos. 300$ got it last year does everything I need it to plus some.
You not alone
Same but I have a 2019 Macbook Air
I have the 2019 13 inch version since September and have no complaints at all. I don’t know why everyone is hating on the keyboard but I love it. No problems at all. I have 128gb and I am more than impressed. No glitches lagging or any problem while using 10 apps and +25 tabs at the same time. I personally also like the full touchbar with the esc. Buttons on it. would recommend the 2019 even more because of the price. Trust me you won’t see any difference which is worth 250$
Broooo exactly I love the keyboard more than this new keyboards
I decided to buy the 2019, the butterfly keyboard is really good for me, fast writing and less energy to push one button. Don't listen to mainstream just go to the store and compare both before buying. For me the butterfly keyboard is really nice. And you get a four year guarantee if something happens,good deal
Thanks Luke, I thought I was the only one hearing a good difference in sound quality between 2019 and the 2020 version
omg they have rounder corner and one extra roll of speaker holds? man I sold!
Luke: "certainly no one with a 2019 is gonna upgrade to a 2020"
Me, considering selling my three month old 2019 for a 2020 because Luke made me petrified of my own keyboard: "yeah.... totally" 😬
OMG! I have been looking for this comment because this is me right now. But I'm only considering buying the 2020 because have the esc button and the education discount comes with free airpods.
The sound out of the speakers is massively improved on the 20, and the mics on the 20 sound significantly worse than the 19. Weirdly.
the speakers are not "massively improved" its just tuned differently. theyre the exact same speakers. I EQed my 2019 MBP with "Airfoil" app and it sounds much better.
@@apaulogize Can you describe how did you use the app tysm
Could it be the acoustics if the chassis? Isn't the mic on the body?
what a subtle way to tell you to shut up 🤔
The speakers on the 2020 $1700 are massively improved. They have a wider frequency range and built in woofers. But the $1300 model are the same speakers as 2019 models.
This video cleared out all my confusion, thank you for an amazing detailed explanation
The convenience of having this being the first vid on my watch list😌
Thank you so much, seems like you rather get the 2020 with the upgraded SSD and better keyboard. Even for $1200 vs $1059 you're getting a new keyboard, and a new computer rather than refurbished.
Apple's refurbished is practically new though. There is no noticeable difference other than the price and box. If you blindly compared an Apple refurbished product and its brand new counterpart, there is no way you could tell a difference.
Kingofsea11 plus apple’s warranty for a year
They’re still selling brand new 2019 macbooks
Plus with the student discount you get free airpods
Just got my 2019 MBP yesterday I upgraded that from 2012 MBP and I’m fucking happy
how does the keyboard feel? thinking about picking up the base model mbp 2019
I'm about to upgrade from my 2011 mbp. I can't wait!
how was the keyboard so far? i will be getting mine in a few days. im excited to use it
@@nazir.el-halabi I have the 2017 model. I had to change the whole top case last week because the keyboard broke. However, the Apple store fix it for free thanks to the global campaign they released for changing butterfly keyboards. Now, my laptop is practically new, because they changed the battery for a brand new as well. I won't lie to you, this keyboard isn't fantastic, but it isn't that bad. If I'm honest, I still prefer the standard keyboard rather than the butterfly one, but if you go for the 2019 model, you just have to get used to it.
Bought the mbp 2019 256 gb varient so far so good.
Here in the UK I've seen people sell a 2019 256GB/8GB model for £1400. For the same price you can get a 2020 model with 256GB SSD and 16GB of RAM.
Could you link me to them?
I need to get one
Chuks Ben I have one to sell ;)
@@tomaszmichewicz7867 whats the price?
Chuks Ben £1250
@@tomaszmichewicz7867 what's the spec of yours? Am in Nigeria as well too
I just LOVEE the Butterfly Keyboard man.
I got the 2019 version in 2019, it's still holds up great 👍
Hows the keeb
@@xobuddha1381 I haven’t had any problems with the keyboard, but the screen sometimes glitches out a bit. I have had the computer for 2 years. I overwork the hell out of my computer, lots of youtube tabs and multiple apps open
@@ThaKingGoat7 is it a good long term computer I’m thinking of get it for college
@@amoya4302 I've had it for 2 years it's pretty good.
I just bought the 2019 13 inch model today (bought one a few weeks ago as well but that one had bad battery life so I returned it and bought another one today. This one is way better on battery life). I love it. Best laptop ever. I recommend it to anyone who wants to buy a laptop. They actually only sell the 2019 models in the stores over where I live right now. Won't be getting a new one until this one dies on me or until they come out with one that has something I really want that I can't have on this laptop. Really nice laptop.
i was about to buy the base model 2020 mbp in store and i stopped last moment bcz i just realized that it is so much money to pay on a mac with upgraded keyboard (literally costs 1700$ in Norway), so i might pick up the mbp 2019 base model tomorrow instead for like 1300$. How are u liking the keyboard so far?
@@nazir.el-halabi A lot of people say they don't like the keyboard. I actually don't mind it. It's actually quite nice in my opinion. I got used to it very quick. If you do end up getting the 2019 model, enjoy it. It's really nice.
Great Video! Very informative. Exactly what i was looking for. Thank you!
Great video. I have the base 2019 13", which i purchased as an open box back in January for about $900. I was considering upgrading to the new model and maxing it out, but decided to just keep the 2019 13" and get the 16" as well. I use the 2019 13" for working on the road, or traveling...the 16" is my main powerhouse at home.
Your review is clean, good, and point
I love you
Your videos are just excellent! Thank you
thank you for the detailed review, i guess i will go with the 2020 macbook Pro
That the speakers sound slightly more bass heavy makes sense actually. The speakers itself might be the same, but the housing itself (the macbook) has changed slightly, so this has an impact on the acoustics. Having slightly larger holes and a bigger chassis can have a huge impact on audio quality. At least, I had this experience with building speakers. Great video Luke, love your content ❤️
I've had the MacBook Pro 2019 for about a month and the keyboard is fine. Honestly, I like the butterfly keyboard more than the magic keyboard because it's more clicky and the feedback that you get when you type is very satisfying. And with so many online meetings the better microphone quality is great.
Vladimir Vatrai i’m about tu buy a new macbook pro and I was planning on getting the 2019 one because now its cheaper but why is everyone saying that the keyboard is bad?
DDD Alanis ITS because of the older versions like the 2016 MBP where the keys would suddenly stop working? but I have the 2019 MBP for almost 1 year and still haven’t had any issues. People are just overreacting. With this 2019 MBP keyboard version there is really nothing to be afraid of. If you just google there are significant less people who experience defective keys with the 2019 version. So again there is nothing to be afraid of. The 2019 model works great.
I do have to say that the 2019 looks better. There’s something about that flat keyboard and longer touchbar that just makes it look sleeker and more complete.
Yep it looks more Advanced and Futuristic than those old style keyboards
Jony Ive loves the way you think, lol. Thank goodness he no longer presides over design at Apple. Hallelujah for a keyboard that WORKS.
Agreed!
been wondering about all of this. thank you!
At least I don’t feel too bad with my 2019 Pro bought last fall. I needed one at the time and my plan was to sell it and get a new one when they came out. But with the still 8th gen cpu in the equivalent model it really feels like too much money and hassle to switch. And I still have that 4 year keyboard warranty.
by that time Apple may have their own CPU line.
yeah, first I was also kind of sad about it, but I have 4 years of keyboard warranty and by that time I should be able to replace it to a new one 🤷♂️
Took lots of saving but the performance is at least still decent 😂
I'm in the same boat. I bought my 2019 after being used for three months for $950 and I still feel satisfied with my purchase.
Yeah I bought a brand new 2019 for $1000 and I’m very happy with it :)
Arno are you facing any issues related to keyboard?
I would avoid the butterfly keyboards at all cost. They will get repaired if they fail, but only for a limited amount of time. If the keyboard breaks one day after the repair service expires, that MacBook will turn into a very expensive brick that can't really be fixed. I think that'll also hurt the used market, as we have now about 5 generations of Macbooks that nobody really wants to own because of the risk that the keyboard may most certainly break at some point. We unfortunately have to stick with the up to 2015 models (hopefully those without staingate) until the 2020 models become affordable in a few years.
So I just bought the 16inch yesterday and what you said in the last minute of the video solidified my purchase. I was considering maybe moving to the 2020 13 inch MBP, but I'll be sticking with this one!
Luke I love your videos, your reviews are incredible, and so in depth. Currently commenting via my brand new 2020 MBP that my boyfriend got me today as a gift. Finally after 9 years, I have an upgrade from my late 2011 model. Anyways, thanks for all the great videos. Love the subreddit also.
So, I’m finally pulling the trigger and upgrading my very tired Mid 2012 MBP which to be honest, I do web design and graphics design and that poor old guy maxed out with 16gb ram and a 500gb SSD has held up extremely well. The display (Pre Retina) is really showing it’s age now so, it’ll go into semi retirement. I decided to spend the extra money for the 2020 mainly because of the keyboard. In stating in the video “if you can live with the butterfly keyboard” you need to consider that it is a gamble. Living with that keyboard could be simply dealing with it’s feel to unexpected periods of time that your keyboard is unusable, possibly even requiring going without the machine to have the entire upper portion of the case replaced. For me that gamble made it worth spending a little extra money to avoid. Awesome comparison video btw, thank you for posting it :)
Love my 2019 512 gig have no issues what so ever so. Never had an issue with the keyboard. It’s worth it
Very impressed by your very detailed and professional explanations and comparisons
Can you please make a video on " macbook pro 2017 vs 2018 vs 2019 vs 2020"
Who else is watching this on their 2012 MacBook Pro?
I'm watching on my 2020 MacBook Pro. Lol.
@@riley1733 I hope yours lasts for 8 years or more
2011, got it from my dad... planning on getting a new refurbished 2020 tho since I have literally the worst mbp of the decade
I'm watching this video from my new 2020 base model MacBook Pro, and I should say, it is awesome! I love that machine and I feel like I can go with that beastie boy for at least 5 years.
Thanks for this video! This comparison was extremely useful! I'm debating a similar thing myself with the 2019 MBP vs a 2020 MBA and you've helped a lot with this comparison. Now I just have to wait for a new stock of refurbished MBP to buy (up here in Canada).
so which one did you decide on?
It’s 2020 all the way for me. Thanks for helping me make my decision.
2:50 pointing out the minor differences like doug demuro haha
Josh Knight I think you mean quirks and features
cmon man what is all the hate for the 2019 macbook pro??? just because it has a bad keyboard dosn't mean it's bad, it's a Perfectly good laptop plus they are all good laptops!
My 2019 mbp doing good 5 months in.. Keyboard is fine and this generation of butterfly keyboard is very Reliable plus 4 years of warrenty for ( Just in case) so overall it's a Good buy if you're getting a Good deal on it.
Peace
I bought today a 2019 MacBook Pro 15" i7 base model for about 1970€, instead of about the standard retail price 2550€ (in Hungary).
@@Lofaszjozska van pénz lóvéra 😂
@@Lofaszjozska De viccet félretéve, jó gép! Nekem a 13"-es van belőle, használd egészséggel! :D
8 months for me and so far so good.
same here. been using my macbook pro 2019 model and so far so good. no issues or complaints. the butterfly keyboard is fine although, i do use an external keyboard since i prefer using it rather than using the macbook’s keyboard. i only use the internal keyboard when im outside. i work from home btw.
7th - last time I was this early going outside was considered safe.
I am a Graphic Designer . My 2011 Macbook Pro was nearly indestructible, suffering only one hardware failure in 2018. I retired and recycled it. I then bought a 2019 Macbook Pro, Intel I-9 processor, 32GB RAM and over $4K. Within that year I had my business put entirely on hold, suffering three keyboard trackpad failures in the last four months. It is currently out for repair now for the third time under the Keyboard Service Program for MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro... (Yes, they're so bad they actually have a replacement program) with the end result being, after FOUR FAILURES WITHIN ONE YEAR they will replace it with a new MacBook Pro. So what's the big deal? One more repair and I'm home free, right? I would be getting a new one? Right? Wrong... The issue with that is the ones currently on the shelves right now (and I would be due) have the EXACT SAME COMPONENTS... A Butterfly Keyboard (Google that, you won't like what you see) trackpad, speakers and battery (and as they are now) all GLUED to the replacement "top case" forming a single part that has an out of warranty price tag of $1000. (That information and the quote, I got from an Apple Certified Reseller/Repair shop, in person last Saturday.) They simply cannot just replace individual components they must replace the entire "topcase" When any one component fails. (They can't even replace just the battery.) So again whats' the big deal? Okay maybe for someone who lives within walking distance of an authorized repair center there's nothing wrong with that.. and you are okay spending more than a thousand dollars per year on your computer.... I don't and I am not okay that sort of expense. If you're like me, be prepared to experience what I have so far... In the past four months I've had "23 telephone calls, totaling better than 6 hours", needlessly driven 120 miles total to ship it off three times for repair, a string of emails as long as my arm... 100 "I'm Sorry's" (More if you count the ones in writing) and I am still not done with the third repair. It happened to me, it could happen to you.... There is nothing Pro about a MacBook Pro. Buyer Beware.
to be honest, my broke ass would buy the 2019, since it’s cheaper now that the 2020 came out lmao
Get lg gram dude
I wouldn’t get a Mac with the butterfly keyboard. I have a 2017 MacBook Pro 13, and it is going to be on its fourth keyboard after the quarantine is over.
Butterfly keyboard is atrocious. I won't do that.
@@TheLucidLuxray the 2019 is not the same butterfly kb as yours
Athedon Athedon I doubt that one is any better.
I prefer the sound micro of 2019
“Performance on average is 1% faster. But 2020 is 500 MB faster in both read and write tests.” 😄 this is exactly the marketing techniques sales people use to confuse buyers. 🤷♂️ why would you jump from percents to megabytes?
i think the silver is underrated compared to the space gray, if i were to get one of these it would be a silver 2020
megoudey As someone with a silver 2020 MBP, I completely agree. The silver one is underrated and absolutely beautiful.
Definitely!
It was too late for me, I thought space gray was good and ordered it but silver is 🔥
the silver colour does not 'discolour' over time, because there is no anodizing that slowly wears overtime.
rando01 As a Rose Gold iPhone user I am as well. (:
It’s an awesome color.
Great quality videos from you as always!
I have a 2019 upgraded model i absolutley love it and have no desire to get rid of it.
Eagerly waiting for next comparison video
The details you provide are so good!
I just bought a near top of the line MacBook Pro today and I'm using it right now.
Compare the 2019 MacBook Pro with the 2020 MacBook Air
Nice vid, keep it up!
Still satisfied with my 2012 Macbook Pro with 500 gig SSD and 16 gigs of ram.
I heard that the 2012 is still one of the best MacBooks ever made
Which macOs have u installed?
@@heartbeat5659 Catalina
Is it perfect with catalina? Coz mine is the macbook with sierra installed. Do u think catalina runs better than sierra on this mackbook ? Pls let me know. Im in dilemma .
@@heartbeat5659 Yes, it runs fine. I upgraded to 16 megs of ram and a 512 gig SSD.
Man y'all should do a comparison of the 2020 13" and the 2019 16" base model!
You confused me, sometimes 2019 is on the right and sometimes on the left. Appreciate if you will stick one item on the same side in comparing next time. Nice comparison by the way.
the 2020 is the silver laptop and the 2019 is the space gray one, don't worry it was confusing me too.
thanks brother its valid information for comparing
I would like to get one of these new 2020 MacBook Pro 13" models. I could see this replacing my 2015 MacBook Pro for editing on the go. Especially with the i7 and 32GB of RAM. (:
You could actually get a 1% difference in CPU speed from 2 models of the same year and make as well. Every chip is slightly different so 1% is within margin of error for chip-to-chip variance. If you get 10 2019 13", I'm sure some of them will also be ±1% from each other
I got used to the Butterfly keyboard to the point where any other keyboard is too archaic.
But honestly, it took me a good 3 months to get used it. But now my typing speed is faster than it has ever been.
Love your channel ! Great video :)
I thought the mic on the 2020 sounded more natural where the 2019 was a bit canned like most laptop mics
I love your channel man
just got the MBP 19, and I'm digging it! hell could have gotten the 20 but would have to wait one month. this is the best mac replacement, which had air 2016. price was a major factor.
Cool vidéo
Now that they have the free keyboard upgrade, the 2019 is the way to go
thank you for this clear info , i get it so easily ❤🙏
Thank you I needed to check the size difference for case buying and I almost made the mistake of buying the new one for my 2018
As was mentioned, IMO the most important thing about the keyboard is reliability.
Notebook (especially MacBook) is a buy for several years. If there is something reducing the lifetime that can be avoided - better do that.
So I would go for 2020 MBP only because keyboard is slightly more reliable. (and Escape button too 😁)
Eh bit annoyed at the timing - I just got a new 2019 MacBook Pro 256gb model couple months back, even though I knew this was coming, I really did need to upgrade my very old trustee 2012 MacBook at this point or I would have been left without a laptop in the lockdown. 😛 Oh well, I would have been happy with double the storage at the same price and slightly better specs, but very happy with my 2019 one overall 🤞🏻
The keyboard is fine right ? Or is it really bad as people say ?
i also use mbp 2019 the keyboard is not that bad. its fine and gets the job done. however i do use an external keyboard whenever im working on my laptop. i only use the macbooks internal keyboard when im out
I’m buying the 1800 on the education website this weekend, thanks for reviewing some features
Nova 29 what color?
So the 2019 mic is definitely BETTER
You are the best reviewer
I had and still use an old 2015 15 inch MBP and a 2017 13 inch MBP with the horrible butterfly.
This year I went for this combo: 16 inch MBP + 2020 MacBook Air with 16/512.
Here in Italy the 4 Thunderbolt 13 inch MBP starts from 2229 Euros. At that price point the 16 inch is a no brainer!
That's why for travel and light usage I went for an Air with 16/512.
At home and office I got a 16 inch
I bought the 2019 a moth ago, so far so good. The thing was that I bought it just before the lockdown and before the macstores closed indefinitely, so I'm pretty happy with my purchase (I use it for data analysis ).
Pablo Fierro hey, is it good for coding? Is 128 enough or do I need to get 256? Thanks in advance!
@@babacool81 Any unix based OS is good for coding (I'm talking to you linux), but I bought the 250gb given that I need to manage quite large files (I don't think it's enogh but it's what I could afford) a cloud or external hard drive is definitely needed, personally I use both, I have my 1 tb external hard drive and my personal cloud at CERN.
Pablo Fierro thank you so much. And what about the new mac book air?
@@babacool81 the MacBook air is significantly slower than the MacBook pro, so for coding and compiling I would get the MacBook pro
Pablo Fierro thanks so much for your replies! Much appreciated...
I was waiting to purchase my first MacBook but was disappointed in the 2020 specs. So I just purchased a mid 2012 MacBook Pro instead. Hopefully in 2021 Apple will step up their game. Thanks to all your videos. Cheers!!
The ram upgrade is only 100 dollars, which makes the decision harder.
For $100, i would definitely upgrade to 16GB to future proof your Macbook and make it more valuable when you plan to resell in the future.
Very helpful my g.
Get a 2019 , and get a samsung usb-c drive and you could save a lot. You can plug in a 256gb for apps and stuff and then have the standard ssd (128gb) as your small important work drive for when you need stuff every time .
great video! the thing that impressed the most so far about this video was you noticing the tiny little changes between the 2019 and the 2020 models regarding the speaker holes and the trackpad differences! as a designer I really appreciated your eye for detail because otherwise I would not have noticed at all! things like these make youtubers like you stand out from the crowd. going to watch a few more videos and you may have earned yourself a new subscriber! thank you for the great review!
I had a 12 inch MacBook and I never had an issue with the Butterfly Keyboard. I had to upgrade to the 16 inch Pro for work, but I’d still have the 12 inch. My point: if you can save money, the Butterfly Keyboard on the 2019 13 inch shouldn’t deter you.
I bought brand new 2019 today. I will see how will it be.
Just purchased a may 2019 2.8ghz i7 1tb for $1899 new at Bestbuy. It wasnt even on the display deck. After my research it seems like a decent deal if we're talking value
I just bought a 2020 verison so this would be good video to watch right now
Luke - nobody will upgrade from 2019 MBP 13 to 2020
Me - seriously thinking to upgrade from my almost base model 2019 (256 GB, i5, 2TBT) to the new 2020 with 10th gen
Do it. I did. Sold my base model 2019 (same space as yours) for the 10th Gen base 2TB 4TB SDD model.
@@Antphoneigh rich bastards
Antphoneigh why do I need 4 tb?
Interesting video! I just bought a Late 2019 MacBook Pro 13inch with Four Thunderbolts 3 Ports in January of this year... I didn't know they would release a new one this fast, but I get more speed with the processor. (2.4 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5) I would liked the memory to be more than 8GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3. I got the 512GB of storage. I don't mind the keyboard! I have not had any problems with it. I use my laptop mainly for college. I had a 2011 MacBook Pro 13inch, so I'd say this was a good buy!!! I do have AppleCare+ for my new MacBook Pro for 3 years. Your thoughts? I wish you did videos on higher trend models of the 2019 vs 2020.
But what if I'm watching this video on my 2019 MacBook Pro! 😜
same
by the way I have been using 2019 MacBook Pro with butterfly keyboard and so far I have not come across any kind of malfunctioning like sticky keyboard or typing difficulty, which I feel something better and new Apple developed but was not accepted by users so far (Just an opinion)
can u do a macbook pro 13” base 2017 function keys vs macbook pro 13” base 2020? or a «should u update» video?😇😇😇
definitely hear the difference in sound on my 16inch 2019 MBPro.
I’m watching from my 2019 MBP and really the butterfly keyboard it’s not bad I’m using it from 1 year
Excelent video as always! But let me ask: Why do you think the 2017 macbook pro base model (no touchbar) AND dual-core is still more expensive than the 2019 base model with touch bar and quad-core? (apple's refurbished)