Agree 100000% on gifted watches. I took an old 1960s Timex day-date automatic to my watch repair guy because it wasn't running well. He told me that it wasn't worth fixing. I told him that it had been my grandfather's watch. He replied, "I'll get right on it." He's a good man.
I mean watches have no use today. And while we can find them intellectually fascinating it's ultimately jewelry And jewelry is almost always about emotional value, we just happen to enjoy what is, to my knowledge, the nerdiest type of jewelry hahahaha
@@Spectrecontrol yeah I was thinking about that again and I went "hold on what if somebody offers me a watch from a brand I really actively dislike ? like, if I kept it, the person would see that I wouldn't be wearing it ever, how would that make them feel ?"
@@TMmodify While this might be true, it's also very cynical. Does the Mona Lisa have any practical use? No. But it's a piece of art that brings joy to millions of people. There's not always a practical use for things and it's not necessary. Appreciation of arts and crafts is very human and it's a good thing. It's what defines us.
Rightly said about not doing it to impress others. I've seldom got a watch compliment from a person who isn't into watches. You're in this hobby because YOU love watches, and that's all.
If you aren't a WIS, you probably know Rolex for sure, and perhaps Omega, as high end, and perhaps some of the more famous swiss brands, but they aren't usually as iconically flashy unless you're talking specific models like AP Old Oak. to be honest, with most watches, unless you're familiar with all models, it's hard to tell who made it unless you have eagle eyes. 100% agree.
I must say, after watching many of your videos, your approach to so many opinions has always been very gentlemanly, polite, and tastefully mature. This is not necessarily what I have seen and experienced from other watch content creators! Enjoy your content Teddy! Thanks!!
I couldn’t possibly agree with this more. Thank you for the comment, OP, and thank you, Teddy, for your content, your extremely thoughtful comments and replies to viewers/commenters with gentleness, gentlemanliness and civility - and insight. We in this avocation could use so many more Teddys. And so many of the other RUclipsrs in this “space” could and should take a lesson from you.
My co-intern and colleagues gifted me a quartz watch at the end of my internship. To this day, I still proudly wear it on important occasions. Watches are not only tools. They have a story behind it, a reason why you got that watch. Good old time has no price.
I’ve collected watches for more than 30 years. I have watches of all types of brands. Ranging from $50 to $70k. But my valuable and precious watch is a quartz Seiko that costs no more than $150. It was a gift from my father on my 16th birthday and my most prized possession.
So true! I own a couple of nice mechanical watches, but my favourite out of the bunch happens to be a quartz - the PRX quartz to be precise. I just love the sunburst dial, and buying this thing over the Powermatic 80 wasn't about auto vs. quartz, it was a decision purely and 100% based on what looks better (to me)!
Today I bought my first automatic watch, Seiko snxg47k1 for just €130, I don't think I could have found a better one. I preferred the version with a black dial but I'm satisfied with this one.
I loved the fact that you put this together. You referenced all the right comments I’ve heard for years and still either laugh at or simply shake my head. Watch collecting, if you’ve truly been bitten, is an addiction. A good addiction but an addiction no less…. and I LOVE IT! Thx Teddy
Grand seiko spring drive is one of my grails. Even with the yen wherever it is that i was able to get a Nomos Orien Rose, normally 2500 usd shipped new, for like 866 used on chrono24 including taxes and the exhorbitant shipping (which did end up getting here next day air from tokyo, so there's that,) spring dirves are still a bit under 2k at the cheapest.
About 6 years ago, my parents gave me a watch for Christmas because they know I love watches. That's the only watch I never got rid of. I can't get much for it because it's only an Invicta. I don't ever wear it, but the fact that they tried to get me something that I'm into means alot more to me...
The thing about snobbery is it’s nothing more than insecurity. Snobs have a constant compulsion to make people think that they’re superior. Look at me, look at my watch, look at how impressive I am, my watch is superior to yours, I am superior to you. Confident people are not snobby. Insecure people are snobby. And annoying.
Well, what's getting watch snobs is that others might not be impressed enough with what they spent a lot of money on. In the past, I've owned 2 Rolexes and 3 Omegas, among many other watches. I have none of them left. Not because I'm afraid of looking like a watch snob; one of the Omegas went because I heard they were coming out with a new version, one of the others went because, as much as I loved the design, it wore horribly for me. My first Rolex I wish I had kept just because of sentimental value. The 2nd one I got rid of because it felt utterly soul-less; the brand had become an expensive hood ornament, and was no longer the epitome of the tool watch. Now I wear a Ball Marvelite, with a Seiko "Arnie" re-issue as back-up. Why? Because I like them. That's the best reason.
Spot on. Confidence, experience and most of all wisdom lend to a secure outlook on life. Snobbery is pathetic and in constant need of external validation.
people go through tragedy and trauma and it lowers their self worth a lot, so they think in order to show people I am something their behaviour changes, it is like clariosentinent empaths, you people make fun of such people but dont care about the suffering they go through, u r secure so u dont waste time in all dat, but a trauma person wastes it n becomes very sensitive to people's opinion, ok instead of laughing at dem just pay give love n make dem understand what they r doing, it ll help a lot instead of making fun of dem
Spring drive is a mechanical watch, but with the balance wheel/hairspring/pallet-fork mechanism replaced with an electro-mechanical equivalent. Instead of the back-and-forth of the hairspring, you have the more consistent back-and-forth of magnetic fields. Making that happen is a whole lot more challenging than making your standard quartz watch!
Took decades to get all the materials right, especially the special mainspring. And that's decades of Seiko ingenuity. The same people who got so good so fast that a key chronometer competition got restricted to Europe only.
Considering the unique features of the Richard Mille RM 26-01, acquiring this timepiece involves a different approach than traditional watches. The RM 26-01 boasts a tourbillon movement, making it a rare and exquisite investment in the world of horology. Its limited production and intricate design suggest potential appreciation in value over time.
Absolutely, investing in luxury watches like the Richard Mille RM 26-01 requires a keen eye for craftsmanship and a long-term perspective. Beyond its timekeeping function, the exclusivity and brand reputation associated with Richard Mille can contribute to its value as a collectible item. Consulting with a watch expert or collector can help navigate the nuances of this unique investment.
I completely agree. At 55 years old and contemplating a significant watch investment, I've been eyeing the Richard Mille RM 26-01 as a potential addition to my collection. With the intricate features and limited availability, I recognize the need for expert advice in making such a purchase. Do you have any recommendations for a trustworthy watch advisor?
This aligns perfectly with my interest in expanding my watch collection. Could you share the contact information of your watch advisor for further guidance?
I've been working with "CHRIS RYAN STEWART." Their expertise in luxury watches, including Richard Mille, has been invaluable.He provided insights into market trends, authenticity checks, and potential future value. I highly recommend reaching out to him for a personalized consultation.
It's fascinating how the right advisors can make a significant difference in unconventional investments. A few years back, I sought advice when considering a rare Patek Philippe, and it turned out to be a wise move. Advisors with expertise in niche markets can help navigate complexities and enhance the investment potential of these unique timepieces.
I wish I was a US resident, I am a college student living in Europe and recently got into watches. Thank you, Teddy, for all the amazing content that you give, it helped me get to know a lot about watches and the history of certain brands. Still looking to buy my first watch ever, just saving up for it.
Well, you can pass through our southern border and get a free cell phone, a $5000 visa card, and a flight to any city you want. You can buy many great watches for $5000. And yes, I'm being sarcastic. But it's still true, sadly.
The open/closed case back point was bang on. Really want an engraved case back and know what I would do but can’t find a case back that has some room. Great point.
I wouldn’t necessarily put it the way you said it. Rolex are very high end watches with high quality materials and movements. Are they the most rare of materials or pushing the limit of “art and innovation”, no. But they definitely aren’t equivalent to run-of-the-mill Harley Davidson bikes by Comparison.
I think this is more true for the hyped Rolex references. A lot of the more enthusiast references are just well done, high-end watches when bought at retail and without an insane waiting time.
Rolex has been the most sought after watch brand for better part of a century, it's seen globally as a symbol of success and opulance, and contrary to what the trolls on the internet think, what they say does not matter, has no influence in the real world and will not slow down a brand like Rolex
Some great topics today Teddy. 1. Rolex. There are Rolex owners who are watch guys and Rolex owners who are not. If you compliment someone on his Rolex, you are as likely to just get a shrug or a polite thanks as you are to start a conversation about watch collecting. Where as any other luxury watch, you probably will start a watch conversation. 2. Gifts. That is tough. At this juncture I give away watches as gifts way more than I receive them. And that is how I like it But, I will never sell a watch that belonged to someone close to me, and will not sell gifts from my wife. 3. Watch snobs vs watch geeks. Geeking out over watch stuff is great. Looking down your nose at somebody’s cheap watch is not cool. You wouldn’t like it if some rich db made fun of your car, or clothes. So don’t make fun of some dude’s Vincero, or MVMT
The reason I don’t look for a Rolex watch is that I despise the decadent culture surrounding it. Try going to any Rolex AD, and you will be treated poorly or with arrogant disdain. You feel as though you have to meet arbitrary standards that most or all people in the AD actually don’t adhere to or have. I tried three different ADs, ready to buy a watch, and the experience was the same. Very disappointing. They lost a good customer and watch enthusiast. Now, Rolex represents decadent luxury for me. Owning one would now embarrass me.
I intentionally purchased a Seiko Samurai with the Hardlex crystal and aluminum bezel insert so after 20 years of service, I would have made a vintage watch. I do appreciate the new products, and own a few of them, but realize that those watches will probably look the same as I bought them many years ago.
One situation where I am considering selling some gifted/inherited watches... I received some watches that belonged to my grandfather who died when I was fairly young. Despite not knowing him very well we had very similar interests (he was a physicist, I'm an engineer) and have even worked at some of the same companies through my career. My favorite watch I received is a 1979 Omega Speedmaster, however it is a bit old for me to use it as a daily wear. I would like to sell some of the other watches in order to purchase a new Omega that I can use daily and as a tie back to the Omega from my Grandfather. To me this would be more meaningful than the collection of current watches. The hard part will be deciding which select pieces to keep.
I love this video format. My first real watch was a Seiko 5 dress watch with an open caseback and that is one of the features that got me sold on that watch because even though it is a fairly simple movement it is still cool to look at especially for someone just getting into watches. Fun engravements are cool and by far better than just a simple solid caseback that shows nothing but I think you cant really compare it to an exhibition caseback.
Hot take. A watch collecting journey doesn’t have to be a linear path from cheap to ultra expensive. I actually started with Omega, Rolex, Tudor, Breitling and JLC. When I started to understand the brands, their bullshit marketing and the snobbery around it, I decided to change things up and flip the heavy hitters, and get into other watches I like much more from microbrands and the better Chinese makers on AliXpress, and the odd vintage and neo-vintage piece.
New watch collector here. Bought my first one on Black Friday sales, but my 4th is already on it's way. I've basically been living on RUclips gathering all the knowledge I can, I think I already have a problem haha. But back to the point, curious which micros and Alli brands you're into? Single broke father of 3, so value for money is my game currently.
@Buffington916 For me, it would be San Martin and Cronos but there are so many others. The Chinese watch makers are really killing it right now. It has never been a better time to be a budget/affordable watch collector. Just remember though, most of these watches are homage watches but if you don't have a problem with that, there are some great watches to be had.
I started out this way too thinking that "real" watches had to be expensive. When I got exposed to more affordable/budget watches I realized this wasn't the case. Why am I paying thousands, tens of thousands for a watch. Is it solely to impress others? I'm not a professional diver or explorer that needs an over engineered watch so why am I paying so much money for one?! I also found that I enjoy and am just as happy with lower priced watches. I actually feel like a genius now because of all the money I am saving. There are so many great affordable watches available these days. You no longer have to spend a fortune to get a nice watch.
@@Buffington916 Maybe save your money, and get your kids a cool cheap watch each (like a Seiko 5, or Casio G-Shock), so that they can all share in their dad's joy at his hobby?
I’m not gonna lie, I’m not really a watch lover and most watches I own are just for the aesthetic aspects Bought my Rolex for this reason and I fully agree with those who think most Rolex owners are like Lamborghini buyers ! 😂
They're effectively just functional jewellery if we're all honest. So I wouldn't worry about _not_ being obsessed with watches and how they work. Lambos are the same; you're buying the art, rather than the mediocre functionality.
To that part of discussion about crystals on the watches - sometimes type of crystal is just a part of the concept from many years ago based on an engineering idea, like acrylic for Vostok Amphibia and its flexibility used for withstanding the pressure under water. And sticking to old-school solutions simply helps to keep the watch still ridiculously affordable with all the in-house vibe.
I love the same message you convey across multiple videos.. buy a watch to impress yourself, and not others. The Spring Drive is a truly unique innovation, one that I strive to own (hopefully soon 😊). All things considered, it's a beautiful masterpiece!
As a new Rolex owner, it's more than a flex, it was a Christmas present to myself & a reminder of how far I've come in my career & life. Reminds me to appreciate how fortunate I am & how far I've come. A few years ago I never thought I'd be able to afford a Rolex, now I'm wearing one. Being a watch snob is a sleazeball mentality, there's nothing wrong with an inexpensive watch. Navy Seals have used Timex Ironman before.
Define “snob,” as it has nothing to do w $, unlike many Rolex purchasers, who reflect your thoughts of “making it $&$”. Quality, value, specs, history, engineering, value etc. are all better w non Rolex timepieces.
I am a Rolex enthusiast since the 60’s. I wore a Rolex during both tours in Vietnam. Great brand! Solid and durable, that’s all people my age asked in my day.
You know what? You are absolutely right and thats what rolex really does well, making solid, well built, durable watches, not the best brand for complications or technology but they are like toyota, they last forever!
You’re the second only Vietnam vet I now know of that wore a rolex in Nam. The other being the only living Swedish Vietnam vet, Per Olof Ödman, he wore a Rolex explorer.
As a Tudor owner, Omega, Seiko Marine Master, Sinn, etc. I never understood Rolex either and I made judgements against them until I bought several. My opinion totaly changed. The actual watch is simply amazing but the people not so much. If you buy the watch for the quality and personal satisfaction of owning a finely built piece of machinery that’s great. Unfortunately most Rolex buyers don’t know anything about watches and are tools themselves.
Merry Christmas Teddy and Teddy's Crew! I got into watches this year watching your great videos! I hope 2024 will be a wonderful year for you and others! Thank you for everything in 2023!
Yes, did you decide on a watch or are you still thinking of a model? Like Teddy said, "..it's a marathon." Don't be afraid of not liking a watch after you've spent time with it. Enjoy the twists and turns in the journey!
Teddy -- Thank you. The last comment is so right on and as you explained, it is true across different enthusiasts. Whether its watches, or cars, or running shoes -- buy what you like not to impress. By the way, my collection runs from a Timex Ironman to a fitbit to a Omega Speedmaster to a Rolex Daytona and (my favorite right now) a Waltham automatic. None of my friends notice the difference but I enjoy every piece when I wear it. Once in a (great) while I will meet someone who wants to talk watches, and then -- a great discussion.
On the topic of gifts, I think we all need to have an honest conversation with our relatives that the best gift for someone with a hobby is always an accessory. Instead of buying you a watch, it'd be better to buy straps.
Teddy, well thought out even keel responses to your viewers’ questions. Congrats on getting married, and having a successful 2023 expanding the watch store! Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
16:28 At the very least, brands with exhibition backs by default should at least either provide the option or sell it as a separate piece that any jeweler can install. If this would require a standard size or two of caseback a brand would try to stick to,then good. So many Seikos are gifted but few can be engraved. And few are even away that blank rotors can be bought.
The gifted watch thing is tough -- I was gifted a 42mm quartz Timex by my brother in law at the wedding. I was wearing a Zodiac diver, so nothing wildly nice or valuable, but fairly decent. My issue with the gifted watch isn't the value or perceived class of it, but it's just way too big for my wrist. I have a 6.25" wrist and 42mm looks absurd and ridiculous. If it were a 36-39mm I would actually love to get a nicer strap and keep it as the occasional dress watch if I need to wear a suit, but I literally have no use for it. I've been considering regifting it so that something that's meant to be worn can actually be worn by someone else, but I'm not sure how I feel about giving something like that away. Maybe if I decide for sure that I will, it'll go to a close friend and I'll share where it came from with them. It's also important to note that he had no idea I collected watches prior to the wedding, it was a gift as being part of the bridal party and not specifically for me.
It wasn’t specifically for you due to your love for watches so there you go its way too big you already said you will never wear it so give it someone who will enjoy it or sell it and give him the money. It’s a timex it didn’t break the bank ill assume. No need to feel guilty about not liking something you just do not like. all good
Teddy, You are thoughtful and such a leader of the community. Thanks for the great words on this video. I just started my journey. So glad I found you early. This is going to fun. JC.
@7:40 the Spring Drive is a mechanical movement, not because its energy source is mechanical (autoquartz movements like the Seiko Kinetic movement family are quartz movements in my book) but because it is an unloading spring that drives the entire mechanism with no battery involved. With autoquartz movements you're just recharging a type of battery and the rest of the movement is indeed electrically set in motion. As far as I'm concerned we aren't doing enough with the autoquartz technology but I can understand while solar prevails on that regard. I still dream of the day Bulova slaps a rotor on one of their 262Khz movements, or the day seiko makes a rotor powered version of their mechaquartz movements though. I love how simple yet brilliant watch rotors are.
i think you are correct, there are sub-categories of rolex collectors. There are those who are actual watch enthusiasts, then there are those who want to celebrate a personal or professional milestone in their life. And finally the ones who give rolex a bad name, the ones who "flex" and try to show off with a hyped rolex model.
@@alfieakaronaldogSpot on. The Omega fan boys are by far the absolute worst. They can't keep Rolex out of their mouths. If I hear another Seamaster vs Submariner comparison. I'll probably puke coat hangers. At least Rolex doesn't use parts from China like Omega and other Swatch group brands. The Watchregulator who was a technician for the Swatch group specified
Just so often I've seen a Rolex on a wrist and asked the owner the "story" behind it and 9 times out fo 10 you get one of two replies "Oh it was given to me as a gift...never needed a battery either!" or "Well it's a Rolex, it's what you buy when you make some cash innit?!" So I've kind of given up.
I don't have problem with Rolex people. Everyone gets what they want. Personally i don't like NOMOS and Grand Seiko. They just seem to have no interest for me in terms of design. But anyway this is my opinion. The only problem that i have is to see most of the people buying bigger watch sizes that their wrist can support.
Unless I know the wearer is a watch enthusiast, I won't talk to someone wearing a Rolex. However, I've introduced myself to a total stranger when I saw the Doxa on his wrist.
Right on Teddy, thanks for the vid. I think your comment on buying what you like and not to impress other people is truly and important advice on a lot of things in life, it's what I live by because a lot of things cost a lot of money, it's important to ensure it's for your own enjoyment of use or ownership.
I have the Snowflake since it came out in the US. It is my favorite watch and I own Rolexes. I loved the amazing technology used to make the movement. I have been in the watch game for decades. I have never scratched a sapphire crystal. I won’t buy anything else.
Hahaha that story from Crocker happens multiple times a day. Especially with the higher end lambos and Ferraris you see during the summer there lol. Fellow Clevelander here!
Women by and large absolutely don't care about supercars, or even necessarily muscle cars. i used to work with a guy who had a Mitsubishi eclipse GT i think it was, he was constantly dumping cash into maniacally increasing its boost, and it was like chick repellent.
To the point about $200 watches vs $2000 watches...I tend to agree. I have a Seiko 6t63 00B0 chronograph (black face, stainless steel bracelet, bezel, hands and markings) and I get compliments on it all the time, many people see it and think its a $2000 piece. This watch retailed for about $200 new back in 2010, and can be had secondhand for between $100-$150. It's the best looking "beater" watch with a brand name imo. It was a gift from my father to me for my first father's day.
I actually got sort of suckered into taking the oceanica kickstarter copy at face value, only to find out they're obvious homage watches from a certain factory or set of factories in hong kong, albeit with better QC. When they talk of "desigining" the watches, they're clearly picking from a large array of options for their custom order. Still, I like my Reef (basically a seiko 6105 homage) which i got on sale for $150. Of course similar watches can be had directly for cheaper, but i've heard it's hit or miss buying that way
Rolex replica sales are higher than genuine Rolex sales. People (mostly men) want the brand recognition to let other men know they are “successful”. It’s not about horology or history from my experience, it’s about puffing your chest out. Sadly.
I tuned in for watches and got a lesson in etiquette, humility and kindness. I'll never cease being surprised that as adults we need to be reminded of these things, but i'm always grateful to those who have the means and reach, and use it once in awhile to spread a more "human" message.
Sadly, this is true.. I personally got submariner non-date because I’m a big James Bond fan. However, people see me as I don’t know about watches but just wanted to show that I’m rich. Like it’s sad that they automatically put me in that category of people. It’s like the most people who drive Mercedes. They don’t know about cars, but wanted to present themselves well-off
Totally agree with Teddy’s take on buying what you like because of how small the watch crowd is. I recently realized that retro handheld emulator channels grow subscribers much faster and more massively than most watch channels, even compared to the biggest ones here on RUclips. Not even close, such channels with a guy talking about Chinese made Gameboy emulators have more subscribers than even Hodinkee!
I like the Rolex snobbery analogy. So you're not into watches but you buy a Rolex just to impress others. Then to have no one notice you're even wearing it must drive these people into fits of despair in their already insecure lives.
Great explanation of the Spring Drive mechanism and how it scratches the itch of mechanical watch lovers and the technologically focused. This movement is quite beautiful and should be experienced before being rubbished as "just quartz".
I got a few very old quartz watches from my Grandad when he died. They weren't his daily wearers and don't have any monetary value as those that did went to my uncles but I kept them. Bought a watch repair kit and changed all the batteries. I like to wear them occasionally, just reminds me of my Grandad which I appreciate.
I feels like people who dislikes the spring drive because "it's just a quartz movement" don't even truly understand what make their mechanical movement special. It's the attention to detail, the ingenuity, craftsmanship, finishing, the sweep. All of which the spring drive has, or even better.
Thanks for considering and discussing my comment Teddy. You eloquently made sense and expanded on my "assumption". Although I stand by it I would now say "many" instead of "most" Rolex wearers. Yes I'm an Omega guy but am certainly not a Rolex hater btw - I hope to own one some day.
I actually only know one person who owns a Rolex. It’s an old guy who works as a court clerk. His watch dates from 1987 and he has used this watch every day to keep track of court cases. I think that’s the way to use a Rolex.
Mate, I didn’t know anything about watches maybe 10 years back and thought DW is cool! It’s aimed at ppl who don’t really care much, as I was, they are just there for some nice-looking affordable watches
You are wise beyond your years. And like someone else mentioned earlier, you always speak in an objective manner and and look at all sides. I am 66 and have worn and collected since I was 9. I absolutely love your content!
Thank you, Teddy. You have truly helped reaffirm my thoughts on watches. I sometimes think I’m the only one who thinks the way I do, but then you come along and reaffirm many of my beliefs, and this lets me know that I’m on the right path and to continue thinking the way I think. And I’m older than you lol, I just got into the watch game late 🤦🏽♂️
Rolex owners often are snobs. Got rich and want to belong to the "upper class". No deeper reflection about watches. Just taking care that everybody can see the name of the brand on their wrist. True for other products as well: Ferrari, Armani etc.
I have 3 of my friends who owns the Rolex. Are they rich? yes! Do they know watch? NO, they don't even know anything about other rolex models, mechanial etc... They just buy a rolex because they heard that rich/business men has rolex. That's it!
If you’re rich and you know nothing about watches, a Rolex is an easy pick. That’s doesn’t make it a bad choice. Porsche 911s are bought by rich guys who don’t know much about cars, does that in any way lessen how good the car is?
The compromise that most affordable brands seem to have found with regards to casebacks is to have an exhibition one regardless of the movement, but have custom (often time engraved) rotors.
Rolex is a Toyota…or better yet a Lexus. Super reliable, reasonably attractive (aside from the Lexus grill), and will run to 300k miles with basic maintenance.
The reason why Rolex has so much hate is that those individuals cannot obtain them at retail or never even seen one in real life. I’ve owned omega gs rolexes etc. while other brands are great but Rolex craftsmanship is one of the best in the world.
If you own other true high horology timepieces or have any deeper knowledge of watchmaking, you wouldn’t be making comments like “Rolex craftsmanship is one of the best in the world “.
10:15 I agree with this, sapphire is cheap and brands might want to chase a weird aesthetic but this doesn't change the fact that mineral glass has a shelf life that isn't worth dealing with.
Watch snobs who look down on Rolex buyers don’t realize that those buyers are the ones who keep the luxury watch business alive. If it was just horology nerds who were deeply into the mechanics of watches who were buying it wouldn’t be enough to keep these watch houses alive. People start with Rolex because that’s all they know, then they go down the rabbit hole and start supporting more niche brands.
The lower end automatic watches having exhibition casebacks can be important because some people have no idea the difference between all movements. My first watch was a Movado. I was in my early 20's and thought it'd be my one and only watch. I had no idea automatic or manual existed. Then I got educated on watches cuz that first purchase gave me the bug.
Here is a hot take: Rolex is so saturated with Fakes, Replicas, and Super Replicas that owning a Genuine is an embarrassment. Every Rolex model already has a high 1 to 1 replica from Silk Road in China. I would not like to be a genuine Rolex owner, and have people's first thought be that it is a Replica first over a genuine one.
I’d also be a bit worried about my security with a Rolex (real or fake) given every person walking by you will think it’s worth a huge amount of money. Most of the other brands go under the radar.
For me, I buy Rolexes for pure flex. And I am not ashamed to admit it. I do believe there is a practical aspect to flexing. In certain interactions in business it can help send the signal that you are for real and should be taken seriously. It can open doors or at least grease the skids.
@@lc4n333be thoughtful, kind, and respectful towards people. You will gain the respect you so desire. And if there are those who do not repay your kindness, thoughtfulness, and respect towards you. Well then, you don’t want those people in your life.
I found a good deal on a Citizen Weekender with Eco Drive. I wouldn't have even looked at it if not for your channel. I love the watch and the band is the most comfortable of any bracelet that I have ever had, and I don't even like bracelet bands. I am also a subscriber to Courtney's channel. I think she's great and also a good source of information. She's a keeper. Don't ever take her for granted.
I bought a citizen eco drive dive watch, and while the rubber band didn't last, the watch is still going after well over ten years. I tend to be accident prone with watches, so i usually favor robust things like divers.
Why do you call it hate? There is a saying. Equality to the entitled will feel like oppression. I think Rolex are just getting equal scrutiny which they do not hold up to and are not used to
@@ALL-il1sw Disdain of Rolex usually comes from the two types I've mentioned. Call it what you will. "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet" If people have moved on from Rolex fair enough but that is few and far between. The majority are just envious of the owners of a brand that has been in the forefront of Swiss watch making for a hundred years. That won't be changing for the foreseeable future.
@@BAF605 again, don't confuse disdain for objective review and opinion. Rolex work hard to keep a lid on a lot of lies in their history and build quality. Calling it out isn't hate. Defending it as hate says more about you than anything else
About Rolex: If I ever decide to spend the amount one of the "cheaper" Rolex watches costs on watches, I would rather buy two or three watches made by Longines or Mido or Tissot or Certina. I do not doubt the quality, but I never get the "tradition" vibe with Rolex, because I am always reminded of the fact that the company wasn't founded by somebody who actually started out by making watches in a workshop, but rather by a business man who founded a sales and marketing vehicle to sell Swiss made movements in pretty cases, which were produced in London. That being said, I really like my girlfriend's Rolex watch. She is proud of it, because she struggled financially for years, working in the world of the theatre, but she was convinced of what she did, and finally was successful not only in an artistic, but also in an economic way. She might have bought an Omega or a J-LC or a VC just as likely at the time , if she had found one she liked as much as the Rolex. It was never "I must have a Rolex". So yes, for her it is also a symbol of her success, but about half the time, she leaves the house wearing a 500 Euro Seiko, when she feels she likes that one better on that particular day.
My favourite watch is a basic gold plated pocket watch that my wife gave to me 17 years ago on Valentine’s Day. It is still in absolute pristine condition, such is the care I take with it.
I quite like engravings on the case back that previous owners have had done. There is another story there, like in books with a dedication on the half title
Agree 100000% on gifted watches. I took an old 1960s Timex day-date automatic to my watch repair guy because it wasn't running well. He told me that it wasn't worth fixing. I told him that it had been my grandfather's watch. He replied, "I'll get right on it." He's a good man.
I mean watches have no use today. And while we can find them intellectually fascinating it's ultimately jewelry
And jewelry is almost always about emotional value, we just happen to enjoy what is, to my knowledge, the nerdiest type of jewelry hahahaha
Someone give Teddy a Hublot and let's see how he goes 😄
@@Spectrecontrol yeah I was thinking about that again and I went "hold on what if somebody offers me a watch from a brand I really actively dislike ? like, if I kept it, the person would see that I wouldn't be wearing it ever, how would that make them feel ?"
I use mine numerous times every day.@@TMmodify
@@TMmodify While this might be true, it's also very cynical. Does the Mona Lisa have any practical use? No. But it's a piece of art that brings joy to millions of people.
There's not always a practical use for things and it's not necessary. Appreciation of arts and crafts is very human and it's a good thing. It's what defines us.
Rightly said about not doing it to impress others. I've seldom got a watch compliment from a person who isn't into watches. You're in this hobby because YOU love watches, and that's all.
So true. I get a comment maybe 3 times a YEAR. And always a watch person.
If you aren't a WIS, you probably know Rolex for sure, and perhaps Omega, as high end, and perhaps some of the more famous swiss brands, but they aren't usually as iconically flashy unless you're talking specific models like AP Old Oak. to be honest, with most watches, unless you're familiar with all models, it's hard to tell who made it unless you have eagle eyes. 100% agree.
What is wrong with impressing others. Do I have to hide my watch under the sleeve so I’m not called a snob or a show off?
@@wristroll_vlad You're missing the point that others aren't impressed by watches no matter what you're wearing,
I must say, after watching many of your videos, your approach to so many opinions has always been very gentlemanly, polite, and tastefully mature. This is not necessarily what I have seen and experienced from other watch content creators! Enjoy your content Teddy! Thanks!!
I couldn’t possibly agree with this more. Thank you for the comment, OP, and thank you, Teddy, for your content, your extremely thoughtful comments and replies to viewers/commenters with gentleness, gentlemanliness and civility - and insight. We in this avocation could use so many more Teddys. And so many of the other RUclipsrs in this “space” could and should take a lesson from you.
a certain dutchmen come to mind when you say that😂
@@dimasakbar7668 I'd love to see a video of Teddy going full Nico.
My co-intern and colleagues gifted me a quartz watch at the end of my internship. To this day, I still proudly wear it on important occasions.
Watches are not only tools. They have a story behind it, a reason why you got that watch. Good old time has no price.
I’ve collected watches for more than 30 years. I have watches of all types of brands. Ranging from $50 to $70k.
But my valuable and precious watch is a quartz Seiko that costs no more than $150. It was a gift from my father on my 16th birthday and my most prized possession.
So true! I own a couple of nice mechanical watches, but my favourite out of the bunch happens to be a quartz - the PRX quartz to be precise. I just love the sunburst dial, and buying this thing over the Powermatic 80 wasn't about auto vs. quartz, it was a decision purely and 100% based on what looks better (to me)!
Today I bought my first automatic watch, Seiko snxg47k1 for just €130, I don't think I could have found a better one. I preferred the version with a black dial but I'm satisfied with this one.
I love Seiko. Not just value for money, but style.
@@emu314159nah it’s just value for money… and lately Seiko has started getting too expensive for they offer
Well spoken on gift issue. My wife and son have each gifted me watches. Those will not leave my collection until I die.
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Do you wear them?
@@ayandey137 yes. Although carefully :)
I loved the fact that you put this together. You referenced all the right comments I’ve heard for years and still either laugh at or simply shake my head.
Watch collecting, if you’ve truly been bitten, is an addiction. A good addiction but an addiction no less…. and I LOVE IT!
Thx Teddy
I like watches at all price points. My favorite that I own is a Grand Seiko. My second favorite is an Islander Flieger style that was under $200.
Grand seiko spring drive is one of my grails. Even with the yen wherever it is that i was able to get a Nomos Orien Rose, normally 2500 usd shipped new, for like 866 used on chrono24 including taxes and the exhorbitant shipping (which did end up getting here next day air from tokyo, so there's that,) spring dirves are still a bit under 2k at the cheapest.
About 6 years ago, my parents gave me a watch for Christmas because they know I love watches. That's the only watch I never got rid of. I can't get much for it because it's only an Invicta. I don't ever wear it, but the fact that they tried to get me something that I'm into means alot more to me...
The thing about snobbery is it’s nothing more than insecurity. Snobs have a constant compulsion to make people think that they’re superior. Look at me, look at my watch, look at how impressive I am, my watch is superior to yours, I am superior to you. Confident people are not snobby. Insecure people are snobby. And annoying.
Well, what's getting watch snobs is that others might not be impressed enough with what they spent a lot of money on. In the past, I've owned 2 Rolexes and 3 Omegas, among many other watches. I have none of them left. Not because I'm afraid of looking like a watch snob; one of the Omegas went because I heard they were coming out with a new version, one of the others went because, as much as I loved the design, it wore horribly for me. My first Rolex I wish I had kept just because of sentimental value. The 2nd one I got rid of because it felt utterly soul-less; the brand had become an expensive hood ornament, and was no longer the epitome of the tool watch. Now I wear a Ball Marvelite, with a Seiko "Arnie" re-issue as back-up. Why? Because I like them. That's the best reason.
Spot on. Confidence, experience and most of all wisdom lend to a secure outlook on life. Snobbery is pathetic and in constant need of external validation.
“And annoying” 😂
Agree 100%
people go through tragedy and trauma and it lowers their self worth a lot, so they think in order to show people I am something their behaviour changes, it is like clariosentinent empaths, you people make fun of such people but dont care about the suffering they go through, u r secure so u dont waste time in all dat, but a trauma person wastes it n becomes very sensitive to people's opinion, ok instead of laughing at dem just pay give love n make dem understand what they r doing, it ll help a lot instead of making fun of dem
Spring drive is a mechanical watch, but with the balance wheel/hairspring/pallet-fork mechanism replaced with an electro-mechanical equivalent. Instead of the back-and-forth of the hairspring, you have the more consistent back-and-forth of magnetic fields. Making that happen is a whole lot more challenging than making your standard quartz watch!
I think it was Breguet that at one point tried to create something like the Spring drive and immediately gave up.
Took decades to get all the materials right, especially the special mainspring. And that's decades of Seiko ingenuity. The same people who got so good so fast that a key chronometer competition got restricted to Europe only.
So so true Teddy, buy watches that YOU like for your collection and not to impress others, which really they don’t care about. Merry Christmas 🎄
Considering the unique features of the Richard Mille RM 26-01, acquiring this timepiece involves a different approach than traditional watches. The RM 26-01 boasts a tourbillon movement, making it a rare and exquisite investment in the world of horology. Its limited production and intricate design suggest potential appreciation in value over time.
Absolutely, investing in luxury watches like the Richard Mille RM 26-01 requires a keen eye for craftsmanship and a long-term perspective. Beyond its timekeeping function, the exclusivity and brand reputation associated with Richard Mille can contribute to its value as a collectible item. Consulting with a watch expert or collector can help navigate the nuances of this unique investment.
I completely agree. At 55 years old and contemplating a significant watch investment, I've been eyeing the Richard Mille RM 26-01 as a potential addition to my collection. With the intricate features and limited availability, I recognize the need for expert advice in making such a purchase. Do you have any recommendations for a trustworthy watch advisor?
This aligns perfectly with my interest in expanding my watch collection. Could you share the contact information of your watch advisor for further guidance?
I've been working with "CHRIS RYAN STEWART." Their expertise in luxury watches, including Richard Mille, has been invaluable.He provided insights into market trends, authenticity checks, and potential future value. I highly recommend reaching out to him for a personalized consultation.
It's fascinating how the right advisors can make a significant difference in unconventional investments. A few years back, I sought advice when considering a rare Patek Philippe, and it turned out to be a wise move. Advisors with expertise in niche markets can help navigate complexities and enhance the investment potential of these unique timepieces.
I wish I was a US resident, I am a college student living in Europe and recently got into watches. Thank you, Teddy, for all the amazing content that you give, it helped me get to know a lot about watches and the history of certain brands. Still looking to buy my first watch ever, just saving up for it.
I'm canadian. I wish I could get in on that too.
I wish I was an EU resident, So there you go.
Well, you can pass through our southern border and get a free cell phone, a $5000 visa card, and a flight to any city you want. You can buy many great watches for $5000. And yes, I'm being sarcastic. But it's still true, sadly.
I wish u were an ayodhya resident
Am an older guy ,just wanted to say great channel ,you seem very humble and grounded for your age ,keep up the good word
The open/closed case back point was bang on. Really want an engraved case back and know what I would do but can’t find a case back that has some room. Great point.
Rolex is the Harley Davidson of the watch world. Not the best but people who buy them think they are.
@@wolfamadeus6932 Nothing is absolute but a very large swath.
Id say same thing about Grand Seiko.
I wouldn’t necessarily put it the way you said it. Rolex are very high end watches with high quality materials and movements. Are they the most rare of materials or pushing the limit of “art and innovation”, no. But they definitely aren’t equivalent to run-of-the-mill Harley Davidson bikes by Comparison.
I think this is more true for the hyped Rolex references. A lot of the more enthusiast references are just well done, high-end watches when bought at retail and without an insane waiting time.
Rolex has been the most sought after watch brand for better part of a century, it's seen globally as a symbol of success and opulance, and contrary to what the trolls on the internet think, what they say does not matter, has no influence in the real world and will not slow down a brand like Rolex
Some great topics today Teddy.
1. Rolex. There are Rolex owners who are watch guys and Rolex owners who are not. If you compliment someone on his Rolex, you are as likely to just get a shrug or a polite thanks as you are to start a conversation about watch collecting. Where as any other luxury watch, you probably will start a watch conversation.
2. Gifts. That is tough. At this juncture I give away watches as gifts way more than I receive them. And that is how I like it But, I will never sell a watch that belonged to someone close to me, and will not sell gifts from my wife.
3. Watch snobs vs watch geeks. Geeking out over watch stuff is great. Looking down your nose at somebody’s cheap watch is not cool. You wouldn’t like it if some rich db made fun of your car, or clothes. So don’t make fun of some dude’s Vincero, or MVMT
I'm so tired of seeing watch "collections" that are a bunch of Rolexes acquired in the last 5 yrs. So boring and mindless.
The reason I don’t look for a Rolex watch is that I despise the decadent culture surrounding it. Try going to any Rolex AD, and you will be treated poorly or with arrogant disdain. You feel as though you have to meet arbitrary standards that most or all people in the AD actually don’t adhere to or have. I tried three different ADs, ready to buy a watch, and the experience was the same. Very disappointing. They lost a good customer and watch enthusiast. Now, Rolex represents decadent luxury for me. Owning one would now embarrass me.
I intentionally purchased a Seiko Samurai with the Hardlex crystal and aluminum bezel insert so after 20 years of service, I would have made a vintage watch. I do appreciate the new products, and own a few of them, but realize that those watches will probably look the same as I bought them many years ago.
One situation where I am considering selling some gifted/inherited watches... I received some watches that belonged to my grandfather who died when I was fairly young. Despite not knowing him very well we had very similar interests (he was a physicist, I'm an engineer) and have even worked at some of the same companies through my career. My favorite watch I received is a 1979 Omega Speedmaster, however it is a bit old for me to use it as a daily wear. I would like to sell some of the other watches in order to purchase a new Omega that I can use daily and as a tie back to the Omega from my Grandfather. To me this would be more meaningful than the collection of current watches. The hard part will be deciding which select pieces to keep.
I love this video format. My first real watch was a Seiko 5 dress watch with an open caseback and that is one of the features that got me sold on that watch because even though it is a fairly simple movement it is still cool to look at especially for someone just getting into watches. Fun engravements are cool and by far better than just a simple solid caseback that shows nothing but I think you cant really compare it to an exhibition caseback.
Hot take. A watch collecting journey doesn’t have to be a linear path from cheap to ultra expensive. I actually started with Omega, Rolex, Tudor, Breitling and JLC. When I started to understand the brands, their bullshit marketing and the snobbery around it, I decided to change things up and flip the heavy hitters, and get into other watches I like much more from microbrands and the better Chinese makers on AliXpress, and the odd vintage and neo-vintage piece.
New watch collector here. Bought my first one on Black Friday sales, but my 4th is already on it's way. I've basically been living on RUclips gathering all the knowledge I can, I think I already have a problem haha. But back to the point, curious which micros and Alli brands you're into? Single broke father of 3, so value for money is my game currently.
Chinese makers on Aliexpress smh
@Buffington916 For me, it would be San Martin and Cronos but there are so many others. The Chinese watch makers are really killing it right now. It has never been a better time to be a budget/affordable watch collector. Just remember though, most of these watches are homage watches but if you don't have a problem with that, there are some great watches to be had.
I started out this way too thinking that "real" watches had to be expensive. When I got exposed to more affordable/budget watches I realized this wasn't the case. Why am I paying thousands, tens of thousands for a watch. Is it solely to impress others? I'm not a professional diver or explorer that needs an over engineered watch so why am I paying so much money for one?! I also found that I enjoy and am just as happy with lower priced watches. I actually feel like a genius now because of all the money I am saving. There are so many great affordable watches available these days. You no longer have to spend a fortune to get a nice watch.
@@Buffington916 Maybe save your money, and get your kids a cool cheap watch each (like a Seiko 5, or Casio G-Shock), so that they can all share in their dad's joy at his hobby?
I’m not gonna lie, I’m not really a watch lover and most watches I own are just for the aesthetic aspects
Bought my Rolex for this reason and I fully agree with those who think most Rolex owners are like Lamborghini buyers ! 😂
They're effectively just functional jewellery if we're all honest. So I wouldn't worry about _not_ being obsessed with watches and how they work.
Lambos are the same; you're buying the art, rather than the mediocre functionality.
Don't compare, Lambos at least look nice. 😂
@@adorp oomph 😁
To that part of discussion about crystals on the watches - sometimes type of crystal is just a part of the concept from many years ago based on an engineering idea, like acrylic for Vostok Amphibia and its flexibility used for withstanding the pressure under water. And sticking to old-school solutions simply helps to keep the watch still ridiculously affordable with all the in-house vibe.
I love the same message you convey across multiple videos.. buy a watch to impress yourself, and not others.
The Spring Drive is a truly unique innovation, one that I strive to own (hopefully soon 😊). All things considered, it's a beautiful masterpiece!
As a new Rolex owner, it's more than a flex, it was a Christmas present to myself & a reminder of how far I've come in my career & life. Reminds me to appreciate how fortunate I am & how far I've come. A few years ago I never thought I'd be able to afford a Rolex, now I'm wearing one.
Being a watch snob is a sleazeball mentality, there's nothing wrong with an inexpensive watch. Navy Seals have used Timex Ironman before.
Jocko Willink wears a Timex Ironman T66801 and he's a millionaire
Define “snob,” as it has nothing to do w $, unlike many Rolex purchasers, who reflect your thoughts of “making it $&$”.
Quality, value, specs, history, engineering, value etc. are all better w non Rolex timepieces.
I am a Rolex enthusiast since the 60’s. I wore a Rolex during both tours in Vietnam. Great brand! Solid and durable, that’s all people my age asked in my day.
You know what? You are absolutely right and thats what rolex really does well, making solid, well built, durable watches, not the best brand for complications or technology but they are like toyota, they last forever!
You’re the second only Vietnam vet I now know of that wore a rolex in Nam. The other being the only living Swedish Vietnam vet, Per Olof Ödman, he wore a Rolex explorer.
Well said, I own a few Rolex and that's exactly why. Great brand! Solid and durable. Also, one of the most comfortable watches to wear.
As a Tudor owner, Omega, Seiko Marine Master, Sinn, etc. I never understood Rolex either and I made judgements against them until I bought several. My opinion totaly changed. The actual watch is simply amazing but the people not so much. If you buy the watch for the quality and personal satisfaction of owning a finely built piece of machinery that’s great. Unfortunately most Rolex buyers don’t know anything about watches and are tools themselves.
That's kind of funny, I actually drive a Toyota C-HR.
Merry Christmas Teddy and Teddy's Crew! I got into watches this year watching your great videos! I hope 2024 will be a wonderful year for you and others! Thank you for everything in 2023!
Very cool! What was your first watch purchase?
Yes, did you decide on a watch or are you still thinking of a model? Like Teddy said, "..it's a marathon." Don't be afraid of not liking a watch after you've spent time with it. Enjoy the twists and turns in the journey!
Buy a Frederique Constant , Rado or Tissot as your first Swiss Watch bro .
Teddy -- Thank you. The last comment is so right on and as you explained, it is true across different enthusiasts. Whether its watches, or cars, or running shoes -- buy what you like not to impress. By the way, my collection runs from a Timex Ironman to a fitbit to a Omega Speedmaster to a Rolex Daytona and (my favorite right now) a Waltham automatic. None of my friends notice the difference but I enjoy every piece when I wear it. Once in a (great) while I will meet someone who wants to talk watches, and then -- a great discussion.
Teddy, big fan of the channel , but disappointed the contest isn’t open to your Canadian friends! Merry Christmas and keep being excellent
Say what????
On the topic of gifts, I think we all need to have an honest conversation with our relatives that the best gift for someone with a hobby is always an accessory. Instead of buying you a watch, it'd be better to buy straps.
Teddy, well thought out even keel responses to your viewers’ questions. Congrats on getting married, and having a successful 2023 expanding the watch store! Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
16:28 At the very least, brands with exhibition backs by default should at least either provide the option or sell it as a separate piece that any jeweler can install. If this would require a standard size or two of caseback a brand would try to stick to,then good. So many Seikos are gifted but few can be engraved. And few are even away that blank rotors can be bought.
The gifted watch thing is tough -- I was gifted a 42mm quartz Timex by my brother in law at the wedding. I was wearing a Zodiac diver, so nothing wildly nice or valuable, but fairly decent. My issue with the gifted watch isn't the value or perceived class of it, but it's just way too big for my wrist. I have a 6.25" wrist and 42mm looks absurd and ridiculous. If it were a 36-39mm I would actually love to get a nicer strap and keep it as the occasional dress watch if I need to wear a suit, but I literally have no use for it. I've been considering regifting it so that something that's meant to be worn can actually be worn by someone else, but I'm not sure how I feel about giving something like that away. Maybe if I decide for sure that I will, it'll go to a close friend and I'll share where it came from with them. It's also important to note that he had no idea I collected watches prior to the wedding, it was a gift as being part of the bridal party and not specifically for me.
It wasn’t specifically for you due to your love for watches so there you go its way too big you already said you will never wear it so give it someone who will enjoy it or sell it and give him the money. It’s a timex it didn’t break the bank ill assume. No need to feel guilty about not liking something you just do not like. all good
This is why when people ask about buying watches for a wedding party I say don’t do it. Watches are personal. Better to get something else.
Teddy,
You are thoughtful and such a leader of the community. Thanks for the great words on this video. I just started my journey. So glad I found you early. This is going to fun. JC.
Thank you for the great content Teddy! wishing you a nice 2024 with more enthusiasts and more watches !!
@7:40 the Spring Drive is a mechanical movement, not because its energy source is mechanical (autoquartz movements like the Seiko Kinetic movement family are quartz movements in my book) but because it is an unloading spring that drives the entire mechanism with no battery involved. With autoquartz movements you're just recharging a type of battery and the rest of the movement is indeed electrically set in motion. As far as I'm concerned we aren't doing enough with the autoquartz technology but I can understand while solar prevails on that regard. I still dream of the day Bulova slaps a rotor on one of their 262Khz movements, or the day seiko makes a rotor powered version of their mechaquartz movements though. I love how simple yet brilliant watch rotors are.
i think you are correct, there are sub-categories of rolex collectors. There are those who are actual watch enthusiasts, then there are those who want to celebrate a personal or professional milestone in their life. And finally the ones who give rolex a bad name, the ones who "flex" and try to show off with a hyped rolex model.
How many of the flexers have you met?
Seems to me that’s it’s Omega fanboys that do all the shouting lol
@@alfieakaronaldogSpot on. The Omega fan boys are by far the absolute worst. They can't keep Rolex out of their mouths. If I hear another Seamaster vs Submariner comparison. I'll probably puke coat hangers. At least Rolex doesn't use parts from China like Omega and other Swatch group brands. The Watchregulator who was a technician for the Swatch group specified
Just so often I've seen a Rolex on a wrist and asked the owner the "story" behind it and 9 times out fo 10 you get one of two replies "Oh it was given to me as a gift...never needed a battery either!" or "Well it's a Rolex, it's what you buy when you make some cash innit?!" So I've kind of given up.
I don't have problem with Rolex people. Everyone gets what they want. Personally i don't like NOMOS and Grand Seiko. They just seem to have no interest for me in terms of design. But anyway this is my opinion. The only problem that i have is to see most of the people buying bigger watch sizes that their wrist can support.
There’s a lot of wisdom and common sense packed into this video. I appreciate the commentary.
Man teddy what a class act, well done
Unless I know the wearer is a watch enthusiast, I won't talk to someone wearing a Rolex. However, I've introduced myself to a total stranger when I saw the Doxa on his wrist.
As always, good content. By the way Teddy, Happy Holiday season!
Right on Teddy, thanks for the vid. I think your comment on buying what you like and not to impress other people is truly and important advice on a lot of things in life, it's what I live by because a lot of things cost a lot of money, it's important to ensure it's for your own enjoyment of use or ownership.
I have the Snowflake since it came out in the US. It is my favorite watch and I own Rolexes. I loved the amazing technology used to make the movement. I have been in the watch game for decades. I have never scratched a sapphire crystal. I won’t buy anything else.
sapphire shatters quite easily. Hardlex is better for tool watches because scratches can be buffed out. But thats just my opinion.
I'm a Seiko fan. Some of the best discussions about Seiko dive watches are on the Rolex forums!
Omega fans unite.
Hahaha that story from Crocker happens multiple times a day. Especially with the higher end lambos and Ferraris you see during the summer there lol. Fellow Clevelander here!
Women by and large absolutely don't care about supercars, or even necessarily muscle cars. i used to work with a guy who had a Mitsubishi eclipse GT i think it was, he was constantly dumping cash into maniacally increasing its boost, and it was like chick repellent.
Teddy you dress very well and have great taste in watches. I’d love if you’d tell us and give us a wrist shot of what you are wearing in each video.
Zenith El Primero A386 would be my guess for Teddy's watch in this video.
To the point about $200 watches vs $2000 watches...I tend to agree. I have a Seiko 6t63 00B0 chronograph (black face, stainless steel bracelet, bezel, hands and markings) and I get compliments on it all the time, many people see it and think its a $2000 piece. This watch retailed for about $200 new back in 2010, and can be had secondhand for between $100-$150. It's the best looking "beater" watch with a brand name imo. It was a gift from my father to me for my first father's day.
I actually got sort of suckered into taking the oceanica kickstarter copy at face value, only to find out they're obvious homage watches from a certain factory or set of factories in hong kong, albeit with better QC. When they talk of "desigining" the watches, they're clearly picking from a large array of options for their custom order. Still, I like my Reef (basically a seiko 6105 homage) which i got on sale for $150. Of course similar watches can be had directly for cheaper, but i've heard it's hit or miss buying that way
Rolex replica sales are higher than genuine Rolex sales. People (mostly men) want the brand recognition to let other men know they are “successful”. It’s not about horology or history from my experience, it’s about puffing your chest out. Sadly.
I tuned in for watches and got a lesson in etiquette, humility and kindness. I'll never cease being surprised that as adults we need to be reminded of these things, but i'm always grateful to those who have the means and reach, and use it once in awhile to spread a more "human" message.
Thank you for the opportunity Teddy! We appreciate all the rock solid content ⏱️⏱️⏱️
Sadly, this is true.. I personally got submariner non-date because I’m a big James Bond fan. However, people see me as I don’t know about watches but just wanted to show that I’m rich. Like it’s sad that they automatically put me in that category of people. It’s like the most people who drive Mercedes. They don’t know about cars, but wanted to present themselves well-off
Merry Christmas, Teddy. Thank you for all the great content.
Spring drive is an WORK OF ART , no one in watch industry didn't achieve this type of movement
Totally agree with Teddy’s take on buying what you like because of how small the watch crowd is. I recently realized that retro handheld emulator channels grow subscribers much faster and more massively than most watch channels, even compared to the biggest ones here on RUclips. Not even close, such channels with a guy talking about Chinese made Gameboy emulators have more subscribers than even Hodinkee!
I like the Rolex snobbery analogy. So you're not into watches but you buy a Rolex just to impress others. Then to have no one notice you're even wearing it must drive these people into fits of despair in their already insecure lives.
Lots of interesting thoughts and was surprised to hear Crocker Park mentioned. (RR resident)
Great explanation of the Spring Drive mechanism and how it scratches the itch of mechanical watch lovers and the technologically focused. This movement is quite beautiful and should be experienced before being rubbished as "just quartz".
I call it innovative!
I got a few very old quartz watches from my Grandad when he died. They weren't his daily wearers and don't have any monetary value as those that did went to my uncles but I kept them. Bought a watch repair kit and changed all the batteries. I like to wear them occasionally, just reminds me of my Grandad which I appreciate.
Most watch collectors go on the journey of loving Rolex, hating Rolex and then finally loving it again 😂
I feels like people who dislikes the spring drive because "it's just a quartz movement" don't even truly understand what make their mechanical movement special.
It's the attention to detail, the ingenuity, craftsmanship, finishing, the sweep. All of which the spring drive has, or even better.
Thanks for considering and discussing my comment Teddy. You eloquently made sense and expanded on my "assumption".
Although I stand by it I would now say "many" instead of "most" Rolex wearers.
Yes I'm an Omega guy but am certainly not a Rolex hater btw - I hope to own one some day.
I actually only know one person who owns a Rolex. It’s an old guy who works as a court clerk. His watch dates from 1987 and he has used this watch every day to keep track of court cases. I think that’s the way to use a Rolex.
I know it’s not okay to look down on people based on what they wear but I can’t help myself to point out people wearing a Daniel wellington 🤣
Mate, I didn’t know anything about watches maybe 10 years back and thought DW is cool! It’s aimed at ppl who don’t really care much, as I was, they are just there for some nice-looking affordable watches
You are wise beyond your years. And like someone else mentioned earlier, you always speak in an objective manner and and look at all sides. I am 66 and have worn and collected since I was 9. I absolutely love your content!
What about Hublot owners? We can all agree they're probably terrible people, yes?
Thank you, Teddy. You have truly helped reaffirm my thoughts on watches. I sometimes think I’m the only one who thinks the way I do, but then you come along and reaffirm many of my beliefs, and this lets me know that I’m on the right path and to continue thinking the way I think. And I’m older than you lol, I just got into the watch game late 🤦🏽♂️
As someone who is saving up for a Rolex Explorer, I have to say that I love watches. But I understand where the sentiment is coming from.
Cool video! On the lower end, I believe Lorier leaves the case backs clear for engraving. Fits with their purist vintage approach 😎
Rolex owners often are snobs. Got rich and want to belong to the "upper class". No deeper reflection about watches. Just taking care that everybody can see the name of the brand on their wrist. True for other products as well: Ferrari, Armani etc.
You’re definitely free to have your opinion even if it is skewed and wrong.
Have you had many bad experiences with Rolex owners?
Agreed... A man who wears a khaki field watch or a Spirit, is much more respectable than an Rolex owner, IMO...
@@Sumerdiniwhat if they have both? Then what they are equally respected or still lose points for having a Rolex?
@@dennischen8887 10% maybe
Spot on video…I got an explorer today from my local AD. Waited a week only for the call…crazy! First Rolex ever and I love it wholeheartedly…
Teddy out here dishing life lessons with an integrated bracelet.
Teddy is the GOAT of the watch YT world. Different league.
I have 3 of my friends who owns the Rolex. Are they rich? yes! Do they know watch? NO, they don't even know anything about other rolex models, mechanial etc... They just buy a rolex because they heard that rich/business men has rolex. That's it!
If you’re rich and you know nothing about watches, a Rolex is an easy pick. That’s doesn’t make it a bad choice. Porsche 911s are bought by rich guys who don’t know much about cars, does that in any way lessen how good the car is?
So what, dude? Did I say anything about Rolex? I said about my friends :))
The compromise that most affordable brands seem to have found with regards to casebacks is to have an exhibition one regardless of the movement, but have custom (often time engraved) rotors.
Rolex is a Toyota…or better yet a Lexus. Super reliable, reasonably attractive (aside from the Lexus grill), and will run to 300k miles with basic maintenance.
I have both a Rolex and a Lexus. Your comment checks out 😂
@@brucesuitt993You must be working in the hospitality, or Real Estate industry.
@@tonys9413Nope., I’m in IT. I have one Rolex and many other watch brands.
Teddy you are brilliant. Watches are all about memories
The reason why Rolex has so much hate is that those individuals cannot obtain them at retail or never even seen one in real life. I’ve owned omega gs rolexes etc. while other brands are great but Rolex craftsmanship is one of the best in the world.
If you own other true high horology timepieces or have any deeper knowledge of watchmaking, you wouldn’t be making comments like “Rolex craftsmanship is one of the best in the world “.
“ …it’s a personal journey ” your best résumé Teddy! A merry christmas from Luxembourg😊
Rolex cannot be the best watches the way they are made. Also we all hate the fact that we can’t just go to the store and buy the Rolex watch we want.
10:15 I agree with this, sapphire is cheap and brands might want to chase a weird aesthetic but this doesn't change the fact that mineral glass has a shelf life that isn't worth dealing with.
Watch snobs who look down on Rolex buyers don’t realize that those buyers are the ones who keep the luxury watch business alive. If it was just horology nerds who were deeply into the mechanics of watches who were buying it wouldn’t be enough to keep these watch houses alive. People start with Rolex because that’s all they know, then they go down the rabbit hole and start supporting more niche brands.
The lower end automatic watches having exhibition casebacks can be important because some people have no idea the difference between all movements. My first watch was a Movado. I was in my early 20's and thought it'd be my one and only watch. I had no idea automatic or manual existed. Then I got educated on watches cuz that first purchase gave me the bug.
Here is a hot take: Rolex is so saturated with Fakes, Replicas, and Super Replicas that owning a Genuine is an embarrassment. Every Rolex model already has a high 1 to 1 replica from Silk Road in China. I would not like to be a genuine Rolex owner, and have people's first thought be that it is a Replica first over a genuine one.
Never bothered me.
@@cecaju9516 you put on your clown nose and rainbow wig and rolex watch?
Teddy said it best ages ago. Enough people lie to you every day. Do you really want to lie to yourself wearing a fake?
I’d also be a bit worried about my security with a Rolex (real or fake) given every person walking by you will think it’s worth a huge amount of money. Most of the other brands go under the radar.
@@deezink3719Rolex lie about their fake history, so what's the difference?
Merry Christmas Teddy, keep up the great work!
For me, I buy Rolexes for pure flex. And I am not ashamed to admit it. I do believe there is a practical aspect to flexing. In certain interactions in business it can help send the signal that you are for real and should be taken seriously. It can open doors or at least grease the skids.
That took guts , we need guts . We are promoting you
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As long as your biceps are bigger than the Rolex you will be ok
That's for the ones who can afford Rolex. What if I can't afford it? How can I gain respect from people I meet?
@@lc4n333be thoughtful, kind, and respectful towards people. You will gain the respect you so desire.
And if there are those who do not repay your kindness, thoughtfulness, and respect towards you. Well then, you don’t want those people in your life.
I found a good deal on a Citizen Weekender with Eco Drive. I wouldn't have even looked at it if not for your channel. I love the watch and the band is the most comfortable of any bracelet that I have ever had, and I don't even like bracelet bands. I am also a subscriber to Courtney's channel. I think she's great and also a good source of information. She's a keeper. Don't ever take her for granted.
I bought a citizen eco drive dive watch, and while the rubber band didn't last, the watch is still going after well over ten years. I tend to be accident prone with watches, so i usually favor robust things like divers.
Roex haters are either people who can't afford one at retail, or who have been unable to buy at retail from an AD. A sad bunch. 😂🤣😂
Don’t be so cheap with the “l”.
Agreed 100% or they never actually seen one
Why do you call it hate? There is a saying. Equality to the entitled will feel like oppression. I think Rolex are just getting equal scrutiny which they do not hold up to and are not used to
@@ALL-il1sw Disdain of Rolex usually comes from the two types I've mentioned. Call it what you will. "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet" If people have moved on from Rolex fair enough but that is few and far between. The majority are just envious of the owners of a brand that has been in the forefront of Swiss watch making for a hundred years. That won't be changing for the foreseeable future.
@@BAF605 again, don't confuse disdain for objective review and opinion. Rolex work hard to keep a lid on a lot of lies in their history and build quality. Calling it out isn't hate. Defending it as hate says more about you than anything else
Hi Teddy. Could you make a video or comment on watch engravings and your thoughts about it?
Have a Merry Christmas and Joyous New Year
About Rolex: If I ever decide to spend the amount one of the "cheaper" Rolex watches costs on watches, I would rather buy two or three watches made by Longines or Mido or Tissot or Certina. I do not doubt the quality, but I never get the "tradition" vibe with Rolex, because I am always reminded of the fact that the company wasn't founded by somebody who actually started out by making watches in a workshop, but rather by a business man who founded a sales and marketing vehicle to sell Swiss made movements in pretty cases, which were produced in London. That being said, I really like my girlfriend's Rolex watch. She is proud of it, because she struggled financially for years, working in the world of the theatre, but she was convinced of what she did, and finally was successful not only in an artistic, but also in an economic way. She might have bought an Omega or a J-LC or a VC just as likely at the time , if she had found one she liked as much as the Rolex. It was never "I must have a Rolex". So yes, for her it is also a symbol of her success, but about half the time, she leaves the house wearing a 500 Euro Seiko, when she feels she likes that one better on that particular day.
My favourite watch is a basic gold plated pocket watch that my wife gave to me 17 years ago on Valentine’s Day. It is still in absolute pristine condition, such is the care I take with it.
great video i don't really have any high end watches yet i still enjoy my small collections of watches that i love to wear for different occasions
I quite like engravings on the case back that previous owners have had done. There is another story there, like in books with a dedication on the half title
I love the look of an acrylic crystal.