7 of the Biggest Watch Collecting Myths - Watches as Investments, Grail Watches & More
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When it comes to watch collecting, and especially the online community surrounding our hobby, there are a few pervasive myths I think take people off the right track. In this video, I'll share seven myths I've heard enough times to finally jump in and address them directly. Be sure to comment any other myths you've seen thrown around in the watch world, and maybe we can do a part two of this video.
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0:00 - Intro and Organization
0:30 - 1. Watches as Investments
4:38 - 2. The Exit Watch
7:00 - 3. Switzerland Makes the Best Watches
8:50 - 4. Water Resistance
12:09 - 5. Accuracy
15:28 - 6. In-House Movements are Always Better
20:44 - 7. Sapphire Crystals are Superior
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As a watchmaker I often say; it all starts with an interest, it becomes a passion and ends up becoming a mental illness. While Im supposed to be the doctor, I'm just as sick as my patients!
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@@ericfreutel8240 🤓🤓🤓
Yea I read that book too 😆
100%!
i just started and have the feeling i landed instant in phase 3.
Teddy: "Only 3 main brands will accrue value.."
Me looking at the Casio 5600 on my wrist: "Shh Shh he doesnt mean it, you're priceless.."
Gotta love the 5600
Same with my AE 1200.
I'll say this. I'm probably one of your older viewers. In my late 60's. I can't foresee any scenario where I would get an "exit" watch. If I understand what you are saying; I can't see myself NOT open to acquiring another watch. Just too much fun to be had.
Completely agree with the movement myth. I'm happy buying watches with seiko, miyota, ETA and Sellita calibres knowing I can get them serviced easily without having to send them across the world for silly amounts of money. Those watches don't have any less kudos for me, it just means I can enjoy wearing them more without issues in the long run, therefore creating more memories with it.
100%
How many have you had serviced then?
Let me guess, zero right? 🧐
@@alfieakaronaldog had to send a Hamilton back for movement repair. When each of them need a service, they will get it. Thanks for your valued contribution.
Not true. I have had all kinds of watches. Nothing seizes up faster than a Seiko in my experience. Luxury brands with nice in house movements simply last longer and need less maintenance.
@@bdegrds Not really, they just aren't worn as often as they sit in a bank vault so no wear and tear.
said to friend ( who owns a submariner ) that i was looking to either by a sinn 556 or step up a bit and get the oris aquis. first thing he says is "is it going to increase in value?" I nearly slapped him
The best investment watch for x amount of dollars always frustrates me a bit. Can’t lie..
I’ve gotten similar comments when I’ve said how much I really like the new zenith chronomasters. It’s really annoying how people think everything revolves around Rolex and the other brands.
Not a bad thing to consider but I totally get what you mean. You need to be happy for the friend who's getting a new watch!
I bought my Seiko SNZH55 (fifty five fathoms for $130 a few years ago. It now goes over double that on ebay. Suck it, Rolex.
About the only thing that I like less than Rolex watches are Rolex snobs. The former are cliches, the latter are victims of advertising. Remember - 'style' is the collection of attributes that render someone unique, 'fashion' is the collection of items purchasable by those who lack style.
Grail watches are great and all that like a juicy t bone steak but sometimes you just want a fast food burger
Damn. That's a good analogy
Words of wisdom
My friend said the exact same thing long time ago....just replace the words "Grail Watches are" with "My Wife is".
@@casualsuede 🤣🤣🤣
Teddy, Is it bad if I’m shopping for the next watch before I've even received the one I just ordered? Thanks.
Material possessions will not complete you: Teddy B bringing the mystical philosophy
And it is just a watch ⌚️
Agree on 6 of 7. I don't think 95%+ of people can see the visual difference between crystal types, but sapphire's durability is legit. Yes, it costs more, but you can get aftermarket sapphire for sub $200, so I would expect any watch over $1000 to have sapphire
This is a public service video for all watch enthusiasts, especially those that rmare just starting to get deeper into the rabbit hole.
I agree that there's no such thing as an exit watch. What you want is not the last watch you will buy, but a collection rounded enough that you have the right watch for each occasion--including that knockout grail piece that's the 🍒 on top.
Yep, any aspirational material good will only satisfy for a limited amount of time.
I just need a few grails now
Agree
I think the problem is people are looking for contentment by buying things. But contentment is only reached by you yourself taking a different perspective when it comes to material items. We keep rinning after that carrot not knowing nothing we will ever buy will satisfy us in the way we hope.
@@mannycalavera2335 Oh definitely. For 5 years I wore my Omega Seamaster happily. Then I added a Reverso--and IMMEDIATELY I wanted a 3rd watch. And then 4th and 5th. At some point you gotta exercise restraint and say enough is enough, and not buy another watch unless you sell one to make room for it in the collection.
"After a time, you may find that 'having' is not so pleasing a thing after all as 'wanting.' It is not logical, but it is often true."
Literally everything in my life beside my kid. But even sometimes him.
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Live long and prosper
The Speedy never failed me. Sundial with imperfections, amazing really
That dopamine fix
I really appreciated the discussion about different crystals. That’s one I had accepted without much thought.
One benefit of getting into my 50’s is that I can’t really see the scratches anymore. That also seems to correlate with how date windows keep “shrinking,” even on watches I’ve owned for years.
Think about this: if a mineral crystal scratches badly, all I have to do is replace the crystal. If a sapphire crystal shatters, what else might need expensive replacement, such as the dial and/or hands and indices?
Also, I like that acrylic box crystals actually flex, which is what they are designed to do. I always found sapphire box crystals to be analogous to those cars from the '70s that had phony "convertible" canvas tops that didn't go down; all the look with none of the function.
I can't afford any of the top tier luxury watch brands. All of my watches are sub 1000 USD and I won't sell any of them. I wear all of them regularly.
Yeah,me too
As Teddy said, in the end it’s just a watch. If you enjoy it then that’s all that matters!
You get the best bang for buck that way. Well done. Enjoy.
I've owned a few expensive watches, but I still appreciate the sub $1K pieces. In fact, I recently acquired a Seiko Dark Manta Samurai and I haven't felt that giddy about a watch in a while. I'm at a phase where I prefer to find the best quality for the lowest price.
@@asianguitarmasta For great quality for the price I alway push a Citizen Promaster. Built like a tanks. You'll never need to replace batteries on the quartz watches and the automatics have great Miyota movements. Never spent more than $1000. Great watches.
This video is going into my playlist of one of the most detailed and beautifully made Watch videos! Thanks Teddy!!
Thank you Rohan!
Would you say this is your grail watch video?
Only problem is all the nice watches Teddy showed that I suddenly need.
~7:17 "Switzerland makes the best watches, now let's be franc" nicely done!
If watches give you joy then then that is a good investment.
^ happiness. Not joy. In my opinion
@@mkphilly I don’t “need” a chronograph or a dive watch, I like how they look, simple as that.
@@jtlast9600 It if makes you smile every time you look at it that is a good deal regardless of price.
@@johanvandersandt8904 completely agree. As long as you aren't going into debt, buy any watch you love if it catches your eye
Exactly
Loving your videos, especially being a watch noob. How wholesome your discussions & explanation are, taking various factors into play, even psychological perspective. Learning so much from it.
I had a good chuckle when some people thought the recently discontinued omega moon watch was going to appreciate now that a new version is out.
In the UK you can still buy the old 1861 version new at retail price
Another thing, “hand crafted” doesn’t mean some guy is making the entire watch with hand tools. The Grand Seiko dials with the scratchy metal surfaces, that wasn’t made by some Japanese guy with a metal pick, hand-carving the texture onto each watch. The texture is just stamped onto the metal with a hydraulic press
I never understood the outrage over movements running fast/slow. It’s not like in 2021 we buy them to ACTUALLY tell the time. Yes, if a watch is expensive it should be accurate. But my Breitling Premier 40 which is cosc certified, loses about 10 seconds a day, and I don’t care lol. Im wearing it because of my love for the hobby and the craftsmanship of watchmaking, not for the accuracy.
It's not quite because of the accuracy itself just for the sake of knowing the exact time, but because of the craftsmanship behind the accuracy. It takes craftsmanship and engineering to be accurate.
@@Sam-ob1yg I see what you’re saying. Patek has incredible craftsmanship along with accuracy. But then you have AP with incredible watches and unique movements that aren’t even as accurate as Rolex or Omega, even though AP is much more expensive. But personally I would take an AP over Rolex or Omega anyday.
@@ToneyDouglas23 Yeah exactly. It's like in cars: comfort vs straight line performance vs handling performance vs off-roading. They are just different dimensions of engineering problems, and you can bet that they all require extreme effort.
If I may add, the even more (or just another) beautiful part is that these engineering problems often pose mutual exclusive goals (e.g. luxury costs weight/space, but that necessarily hurts other performance aspects), so solving multiple of these at the same time (albeit not as perfectly as one that would solve just one) is also beautiful to some people. Where that balance should fall is usually up to the beholder, so people aren't just being polite when they say it usually comes to personal "preference". It really is in fact personal preference (usually).
e.g. something as simple as making leather blue was an engineering marvel in the past, I bet. We take them for granted now, but if I really take a moment to try to do it myself from scratch, I wouldn't know where to begin.
And taking even one more step back, engineering/craftsmanship isn't all that brings value either. Looks are important too. At the end of the day, it's pretty simple IMO: does it make you smile.
A great summary Teddy. The one that annoys me the most is the 'investment' part, I by watches to wear for myself, once purchased I do not intend to sell regardless of make. The crystal type as another, depending on the watch and it's intended use different materials have different benefits. I also take into account servicing when making a purchase.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I always learn a lot from your videos. Very well done and I look forward to Part 2.
Fair play to you for discussing the "investment" angle of watches. Like you said the boom is only five to ten years old. I've heard dealers claim steel Rolex were always a solid return in the used market. Total BS. Hell, you could get discounts in new examples. I'm old enough to have been collecting "old watches" before they became "vintage collectables" 🙂 And I can tell you they weren't. In general auctions I attended pre the interwebs about the only watches that got attention were the precious metal examples, brand didn't really matter and two tone Rolex were the preserve of dodgy user car salesmen in shiny suits. 🙂 The current boom is just that current. It's driven by the perception of rarity, some dealers and a fair percentage of buyers who flip watches constantly barely taking them out of the box for the instagram shot. I remember a boom in the 90's around early Rolex Oysters and Bubblebacks. They were the vintage must haves for many. And near overnight they weren't.
With vintage though, the perception of scarcity is very much real. So I'm not sure I can envision pre-ceramic Rolexes decreasing in value. I can see them plateauing perhaps at some point (not that soon), but that's going to assume demand doesn't continue to rise while scarcity does. I'm looking for a birth year no date sub, and my watch guy has seven people ahead of me in line for one. They're never going to make that watch again, and people aren't interesting in flipping them anymore. They're just holding onto to them, which means scarcity is going up even further.
@@ams914 Oh that's part of it alright, but again fashion comes into it. Like I say early Rolex Oysters were a "hot" ticket in the vintage world and today you pretty much never hear about them. They barely sell and when they do it's at much lower values than back then and that's over twenty years ago. The "pre ceramic" tag itself is a current trend. Other issues are like you say non flipping actual collectors are holding onto stock, as are newer "investors" and dealers looking to ride the wave, so the market stagnates, because fewer and fewer people are willing to spend on the ones that do come up. This discourages newbies into the hobby.
I've seen that with vintage military watches. Once they were a tiny very niche thing and pretty cheap. Then they were cool hunted by the hodinkees of the world and the two hundred quid pieces became 1000 and more and the supply was constrained. Then the same hodinkee type dealers started looking around to cool hunt less well known and desireable niches, because they were running out of stock to sell. 15 years ago 70's style vintage watches with a few exceptions were deeply unfashionable and now... You can see it on ebay over time. Niche hobby stage = lots of items for sale, prices reasonable, mostly auctions. Cool hunted and go mainstream= prices rise, more dealers and "investors" get involved more BIN listings. High watermark = high prices, nearly all dealers, few enough selling and majority BIN. Endgame = stagnant market.
Brands come and go in popularity too. Ten years ago IWC were much more in vogue. Now, not nearly so much. TAG were huge at one point. Now they're a poor cousin, even derided. Not so long ago AP, PP etc were rarely seen on forums and the like, now they're all over the place. Franck Muller were extremely fashionable once and considerd top tier and now... Dress watches were once the thing, today... Moonphases were big too. Once.
If you look at new/grey market Rolex today. Go onto Chrono24 and you can pick pretty much whatever "rare" steel Rolex you want, you just have to pay for it. They're actually not that rare at all. These aren't grand master artworks, they're mass produced consumer items, made in the millions per year. Just crazy prices driven by the market. marketing and flippers and dealers and the hype. Actual vintage is rarer alright, but as you say demand is high at the moment.
@@MrGrentch I think your logic all works, until you start applying it to vintage. Rolex has not diminished in popularity since it began. And newbies aren't supposed to buy 10k watches anyway, so it's not for them. I'm not sure what you mean about Rolex Oysters, but I'm guessing they came in 34mm case sizes. That's too small for modern watches, hence those models are not valuable. But anything in 40 still is, and the older the more valuable. Again, the only thing that can lower the value of vintage models is a lowering in demand for them, and since Rolex is the most notable and most equitable brand in the world, I don't see that happening unless mechanical watches as WHOLE are no longer desired, and I think we actually see the opposite happening, and a lot of that has to do with smart watches that got people used to time-telling devices on their wrist.
@@ams914 That's the thing Ams(and I do take your points on board), Rolex until the 1960's was almost entirely a brand of Britain and her empire/commonwealth. Look up American or European periodicals before that and the brand barely features, or doesn't feature at all. They have "Superlative Chronometer" on their dials(a trademark of theirs), but in the _actual_ Chronometer trials of the 20th century a "no name" brand of today like Movado blew them into the weeds and Omega, Longines and Zenith won more prizes in _one year_ at random than Rolex won in the _entire history_ of those trials(longines won the most). Seiko in the latter years made them look like bumpkins. Their movements were lacklustre, though tough, they couldn't do complications to save their lives and they bought in chronograph movements(though with the exception of Longines that was common enough. The Omega Speedy was a Lemania IIRC). They innovated... well I struggle to think of a major Swiss brand who innovated _less_ than Rolex. First waterproof/diver/modern diver/GMT/Date window/Automatic/Screwdown crown/etc All nope. Marketing? By God, yes. Hans Wilsdorf was a true giant of marketing and spotting and exploiting a market and that's an innovation and kudos in of itself and he was at that from the start and they learned well at his feet. Right down to today. TLDR? You're buying into the name. And that's a thing too and fair enough, but that's about it, or at least most of it.
@@MrGrentch I don't agree at all, which is fine, but all of this is off-topic. Your opinion of the brand itself has no bearing on its marketplace value or your claims about why the value of vintage models will decline. I don't think you laid out a case for that. I don't see a lowering of desired vintage models in value for decades, if not even longer.
Great video! I have 2 other myths for you. First is “dress watches are dead” the second is “complications are always a good thing”.
Your videos are getting better and better, quality content. Very well articulated, spot-on points and it's very refreshing to see watch reviewers not banging on about rolex, rolex, rolex all the time to get more views; but rather talk about it as it really is.
All your points are excellent and I wholly agree with them all. You get an extra gold star for the perfect watch selections for the B roll, super on point. I try to avoid watch channels who also sell watches, but you my friend are a great exception to that rule, keep up the great work!
Great video! It's so obvious you're very knowledgeable about watches. You keep on ticking without stopping. The info just flows naturally meaning you obviously have a love for watches......
Great , High quality content. Love the attention to movement performance. Only channel that really gets into the weeds on this. Very useful.
“After all, it’s just a watch.” Well said, Teddy.
That's how watch addicts usually talk..
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Love your videos and your knowledge and fact you launched a business centred around your passion. Great job ! Keep it going
Wow man… killer vid. You totally watch geeked out too!!! Listen to yourself. Really appreciated your passion and love of the hobby in this one.
Great Video Teddy! Keep it up. You made some great points. Looking forward to the next 7 myths!
Excellent as usual Teddy, " buy what you like, if go's up in value or down your stuck with something you like."and that collecting 101.
"Now let's be Franc, Swiss pedigree in the world of watchmaking is hard to beat"
Intended pun? :P
On the note of the "exit watch", I would agree that it is somewhat a fantasy from a collectors view, but not for those who buy a watch for its intended use. I would respectfully counter that it can be true for those looking for watches as tools, as in a watch to fill a purpose. For example if I needed a impact wrench to do a job, once I get a good impact wrench, I'm not looking for another one. Just my thought though.
Great video. Excellent points all. Regarding the crystal, for me it’s all about the scratches. I love love love not having to worry about getting any.
Great video. Love your approach and attitude. No snobbery which is very refreshing.
As always, you’ve done your homework and delivered your fact finding with the efficiency of a Quartz Grand Seiko (5 seconds a year).
As one with over a dozen watch winders (Orbita Sparta 1’s) I’m curious whether that was money well spent. I have 20 watches in my collection, so no one watch gets worn consistently (with the exception of the newest one!).
Do watches need to be on wonders when unworn?
Are they helping the watches by keeping the lubricants moving?
Or are they wearing them out sooner; thereby, requiring service sooner?
Lastly, is it okay to wind automatic watches, not kept on winders, as if they are hand wound? I’ve been winding my automatics not on winders.
Thanks, Teddy, and keep the passion coming!!
Daryl Ward Snyder
I have the same questions. hope someone answers. :)
I cannot answer anything but the last. Automatic watches can be wound by hand and that is preferred if it ran out. As to wether it damages a watch to keep it running i would not know
I would like a part two in this series for sure!
Can't think of any suggestions off the top of my head though lol
imho, Teddy, this is one of the best videos you've ever made! The amount of nonsense floating around as fact is kinda nuts. Please do a Part 2 and/or more stuff like this.
Great video, thank you, Teddy, for putting this together!
The crystal conversation spoke to me the most. Being a clumsy oaf, I seek the sapphire for durability. You have opened my mind to the other durable options that will bring a new visual experience to my watch enjoyment, and perhaps only need the occasional polish with a service here and there.
What a great educational video teddy! So true about exit watch there is always another watch it never ends. I love the hobby and the hunt.
Legend says the Casio G-Shock is stronger than the Nokia 3310, wish someone can test that out.
check out this channel by Nico Leonard - he tried to destroy a G-Shock in one of his videos
This assumption has been tested already. Have you heard of the Big Bang?
If you want a highly accurate mechanical watch you need Spring Drive.
Excellent videos, thank you! My interest in watches has only recently been sparked, and I'm enjoying learning from your vids.
I always like your sensible and well balanced videos, Teddy. Many thanks
I think that this is your best video yet.Very well done,and great points.
Man, I've learned so much about watches watching your videos! you have great knowledge regarding watches and your enthusiasm is inspiring! thanks man. Also, I totally agree with the first myth regarding watches being an investment.
Great video. I love that you are sharing your knowledge, thank you.
Now that I live outside the US, I’m starting to appreciate a lot more third party movements, an ETA or similar can save you a lot of money, time and headaches!
Great insight about the “Grail/Exit” watch.
I think we all think it but truly know in our hearts that it will never be enough (I’m thinking of JOMW).
Thanks for sharing.
As many say, it is as elusive as getting "one last tattoo" or "just one more piercing."
I have eight,haven't bought one in a while,and will probably never by another.Folding kives are another matter-have around thirty,and I keep running across someting new I want,thankfully they're not as expensive, most of mine are 100-300 dollars
Great, great video. That point about grail watches is especially true (for a collector). Kudos.
Great learning video, spot on information, looking forward to another!
I love how worked up people (especially some RUclips reviewers) get over dive watches that don't have a diver's extension... As if...
Great video. I really enjoyed this. Especially your positive view on acrylic. As a proud Timex marlin auto owner, it was nice to hear. Your honesty and level-headed approach to this is why I subbed and why I bought my Marlin from you. Cheers man 🇺🇸
Kinda late to comment, but this is video that Everyone closing the rabbit hole should watch and take notes. Thank you Teddy with family name of a Vampire dinasty) staying true enthusiast, depsite owning a business, unlike many others, who claim space in this niche! Best!
Definately one of the most interesting videos. Great !!, Teddy... thanks
Excellent video; especially discussion of the “gotta have it” sickness that repeatedly afflicts us poor lemmings. We’re so susceptible to the ecosystem of triggering stimuli from print to video that drives the behavior; playing in the sandbox at different levels, reveling in our toys and show and tell.
I like how you started talking about grail watches and then showed that El Primero Chronomaster Sport. That was a "grail" of mine for a while. Then I got one. I'm extraordinarily pleased with it. Obviously, as a watch collector, nothing will ever suffice as an exit piece, but that one is among my favorites.
Great vid Teddy, knowledge is power, thank you, especially the crystals business
I would add to number 1 with the comment around "value". Too many youtubers add the concept of value to 5k, 10k even 20k watches. IMO, the value proposition falls drastically after a certain price point and it just becomes an OBJECT OF DESIRE.
Great review , Teddy! Very educational and grounded.
Teddy, grew up in medina now live in Kent. So glad there is a powerhouse watch reviewer in Cleveland!!
Just a positive shout out to you! You really have great content and I learn a lot from these videos
I've actually regulated an NH35 to run almost perfect while not in use, dial up and to +5 when worn but if i let the power reserve run down to its limits it actually runs like -6. Not COSC standards but quite there.
I own a hesalite speedy, it was my grail watch for a long time, i wear it nearly dayly and it's accurate enough, i set it once a week or so and i love how the hesalite looks it gives me great plesure wearing the thing.
Very interesting topic today. Well done Teddy!
Great topics to discuss.....especially on the grail side of watch collecting
Very informative and useful. Thanks.
Excellent content. Good points and well spoken
Very strong video teddy. Very insightful and covering a lot of great ground.
Excellent video and explanation! I hope that this clarifies those myths for a lot of people because I encounter them every day in our community. I would like to see a follow up video to this one. Keep the good work my friend!
Great info nicely presented. Good work Teddy.
the term "grail watch" for me means a watch that i currently hold at great personal value that i currently do not possess. right now, that would be the omega aquaterra. it most def will not be the "end watch" for me, but rather the current summit i am trying to reach.
Not a grail watch, that’s just the next watch you want to buy. There was only one holy grail, it’s lost to time, people go on quests to find it, all have failed ( apart from from Indiana Jones) 😁😁 they didn’t find it and then say, right what’s the next grail to tick off the list this week.
Grail watch is the One, the watch to end all watches, the watch you would sell your first born to own, a watch so rare or expensive you will probably never own it. It’s not a watch you fancy and could just whack on your credit card.
Great video, took care of a lot of myths, very informative, well done...👍
I just purchased a 2021 exit watch. That works for me. January 1, 2022 can't come soon enough lol.
Some excellent insight, thanks Teddy.
add to "waterresistence": Someone, who is into diving takes a "diving computer" not a watch. To dive with a luxury watch is a myth.
Terrific, thanks. The common-sense and evidence-based approach is much appreciated!
Great video. Many thanks for encouraging us to stop and have a re-think. Take care and stay safe 👍🏼
Terrific analysis. Many thanks 🙏
So informative and this guy is so likable!
This was genuinely helpful. Thanks!
Good video, young fella. Very informative and instructional.
Very interesting! Grail watches remind me of the “objet a” after Lacan. The unattainable object of desire
👍🏻Lots of good stuff here. Nice Vid Ted
Excellent Video. So Informative. 👍😎🙂
So true what you say about watch collecting and exit watches. Got the Rolex Batman which was a grail for me, but after a short while I realized it wasn't especially good or versatile and sold it. Actually sold all my Rolexes as they simply are overpriced and instead went for a broader collection with other brands.
Hi Teddy, love your videos ! Hey I though about aluminum bezel vs. ceramic inserts, the pros and cons of them, for example.
Good video Teddy. Like always, superb Job! 👍
I can see teddy playing the lowkey evil villain 😅 “this won’t be the last time they here of Teddy Baldassarre” *laughs evilly”
Not really a myth, but I find it hilarious when people that have never owned a nice watch mock the No-date submariner. It has become the whipping boy of the watch world for some reason. Totally okay to prefer the date version, but I don't understand the hate there.
Its pretty shitty, but its a reaction to people who buy those watches as investments and scoff at other watches which "wont hold their value".
wait what's wrong with a NDS
Don't mind the watch, Rolex is Rolex and the Submariners date or no date are iconic there is a reason there are so many Homages of that line. I just don't bother remarking on them when I see them in the flesh anymore because many owners don't know what they have, they just bought Rolex because it is Rolex.
I feel like I have to mention this under every video talking about water resistance ratings at this point but dynamic pressure is actually quite insignificant compared to static pressure.
If a watch was actually tested to 3 bars of static pressure and passed it should absolutely survive a swim, the manufacturer just doesn't want to be liable.
In other words, most watches are "underrated" on purpose (in terms of what the manual says you can do) so people baby them and they won't have as many warranty cases.
Most famous example is the F91W which is so cheap people don't baby it and they rarely fail when people are swimming, jumping and sliding.
Exactly! static pressure is around 98% af the pressure challenge for a watch if not more.. if you jump in, crawl or float.. doesn't matter to your watch how you are moving around in your swim, .
Hi Teddy, very good content and I was excited to hear your POV.
I really enjoy your videos. They give an insight to horology and the skill needed to create these incredible micromachines. Your first three points go to collecting in general. The Thing (watch, car, comic book, painting, stamp…) does not complete you. It should be a milestone not an endpoint. While your other points are more watch/horological associated, there are definitely corollaries to other endeavors.
In my experience, and that of people I know, collecting is a constant struggle to acquire "examples" of whatever one is collecting. Whether it's watches, Beanie Babies, baseball cards, or in my case, saxophones, there's always another one out there, and the collector will never be satisfied.
Great video and nuance here, Teddy.
I removed the back of my Seiko 5 Sports SRPE51 and adjusted it.
Now it is on average fairly spot on.
But even then, sometimes it is -5s/day and sometimes +10s/day. I guess depending on my daily activities and temperature perhaps.
Think about it…
A day has 86400 seconds.
+25 for a “bad” watch is an error of 0.0289% (or 289ppm).
I think it is extremely accurate for a mechanical device with gears and so on.
A cheap crystal oscillator (less than $1) has a accuracy of 20ppm or less
In an industry of presumption, I appreciate the practicality of your views.
It's pretty refreshing to hear someone trying to sell things talk about the insatiable nature of consumerism. Respect.