Reacting to the 50 Most Important Watches of All Time (I Don't Agree)
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In this video, I react to Esquire's article listing the 50 most important watches of all time to see where we agree and disagree. Leave a comment with your thoughts on the list.
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0:00 Intro & Organization
0:35 Grand Seiko Event
1:25 The Top 50
25:30 Watches they missed 
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I am sure there will be some disagreement here. Were there some watches that you felt were left out? Do you agree with my takes?
I miss the Cartier Ballon Blue, as worn by the late princess Diana. And some Citizens, with their groundbreaking technology.
@@jennifervanwerkhoven4274 a The Citizen would have been nice, for sure.
Seiko Marine Master
Why did you not mention the Lego Star-Wars Yoda glow in the dark digital watch that came in the boxes of general mils cereals
You can't have a consumer electronic on such a list... No way in Horology.
I would put the Casio Calculator watch on this list.
Nerds unite! Ok yeah I had one in HS
Agreed!
My first watch. 5th grade.
Agree
Literally have one on my wrist right now
I give this list a C- at most. So many truly "important" watches are missing:
Hamilton Ventura (first watch powered by a battery)
Timex Marlin ("Takes a licking and keeps on ticking" - was an icon of the 1960s-70s)
Bulova Accutron (first electronic watch)
Pulsar (first digital quartz watch)
Casio G-Shock
Citizen Eco-drive
Timex Indiglo
Grand Seiko Springdrive
etc...
And Teddy, the original Mickey Mouse watch absolutely deserves to be on the list. That watch was the gateway for loads of children into the watch obsession. It was also the first "collaboration" between the worlds of watchmaking and pop culture.
Great counter-list. And not just the Timex Marlin, but the ubiquitous drug store Timex models sold everywhere, often a person's 1st watch. The Easyreader worn by millions of teachers and librarians.
I have my Dad's gold ventura; it doesn't run, but it looks very cool; I think he got it in the early1960's.
The Ventura was the first battery powered watch? Wow! Did not know. Thanks!
Ide also like to add the Omega T17 Movement and any watch that it was in due to it being the first (as far as I'm aware and read) wristwatch movement available with a 60 hour power reserve. That had the largest power reserve made by omega until the caliber 8500 of 2006.
@@rbsafeand when we were kids. I have the frog one .
I don’t understand why one would omit the Casiotron, Date-Just, and the G-Shock. Those are just stunning omissions. A Timex Marlin should surely be there, too
G Shock for sure. The Datejust isn’t necessary since Day Date is included.
How can one omit the Seiko SKX???? 😤😤😤
@@BarrowX That’s a miss.
@@BarrowXaren’t Seiko skx included in the Seiko 5 lines?
@@jrsong9503no a skx is not a 5...
Oh boy, we're in for a ride... And Teddy's driving.
😂 put on your seatbelts
Actually it’s esquire, but never mind
no hamilton khaki? or doxa 300T? or even zodiac seawolf?
Citizen's eco drive....
Vostok's rugged performance....
Indeed. No Eco? c'mon...
Vostok Amphibian. Founded at the height of WWII, Vostok Watch Makers Inc. ...
Definitley needed to include the Hamilton Ventura.
Rolex Submariner, Bulova Accutron, Universal Geneve Polerouter, Hamilton Khaki, Hamilton Ventura, Lange 1, Lange Datograph, Vacheron Constantin Historiques American 1921, Vacheron Constantin 222, Nomos Tangente, Breguet Classique, Timex Marlin, JLC Memovox, Tissot PRX, etc, etc, etc.
Y’all need to stop with the PRX. It’s not even in the top 10% of iconic watches. It’s just the flavor of the month.
I’d rather wear a Mickey Mouse watch than a Hublot.
Because?
@@wengjai Hublot is overpriced/overhyped garbage.
Agreed.
Who cares what you want to wear. I don't own a Hublot, but they are some of the best bang for the buck on the used/grey market. But you can keep listening to some fatter James Corden lookalike for watch advise
Who cares about your opinion?@@RHelenius
Waiting 28 minutes for a Bulova to be included is nonsense. Let’s forget they built the most accurate watch ever made? Hence Accutron?
“Takes a licking and keeps on ticking”. C’mon, we’ve all heard that slogan. So yeah, no Timex on the list? Almost as big of a fail as omitting the G-Shock. Esquire should have made it a YT video, as nothing stirs up comments more than a “list” video.
No Vacheron Constantin, not even the 222? No Bulgari Serpenti? No Tissot Prx? No Porsche Design Chronograph 1? I don’t know if I agree with this list either 🤷🏼♂️
VC is another good point I forgot to mention at the end.
I agree with omitting the Tissot PRX. It's a nice watch, but it's not an important watch in the grand scheme of things.
yaa the holy Trinity@@TeddyBaldassarre
Lol I wouldn't inclue any of the recent RUclipsr overhyped watches you listed either😂
Prx????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
C+. You know the richer guy in the room - the one who is senior to the others and whose orders are followed - shouted over the others and wanted his funky rich man's toys in there, over the SKX, G-Shock and Airman.
Maybe about 30 years ago, when I was a teenager who knew nothing about watches, I loved Fossils and ended up buying a few of them. But of course there’s no specific model that comes to mind so I can see why it was left off, but as a brand I think it was the gateway for a lot of people my age.
Obvious misses:
Bulova Accutron
Seiko SKX
At least one Vacheron (puleeeze!)
And yeah, a gshock square
Possibles:
Hamilton khaki
Most Rolexes, frankly
Seiko Bullhead
Seiko Willard
Timex Group USA, Inc.
(formerly known as Timex Corporation) is an American global watch manufacturing company founded in 1854 as the Waterbury Clock Company in Waterbury, Connecticut. In 1944, the company became insolvent but was reformed into Timex Corporation
The list definitely needs G-Shock on it, possibly even the Casioak as it also helped to bring even more watch buyers and make watches appealing to a younger audience. Aside from Casio, I'd say that Seagull 1963, Vostok Amphibia, Longines, Vacheron Constantin, and either Waltham or Elgin for being the vintage watch that spurred on Swiss watch industry.
Puzzling how no Timex made the list. Growing up in North America, I think anyone who ever wore a watch at some point wore a Timex. Indiglo alone was a significant influence. No Citizens is also puzzling. I think of Citizen as the real force behind solar movements. And no G-Shock, as you said, is just ridiculous. How can they make the case that the best-selling watch of all time hasn't been one of the most influential? But the Vianney Halter X Jeff Barnes Antiqua has been?
Ingersoll changed their name to Timex in the 60's.
Not even mentioning the god tier Casio Gshocks ???
Unless I missed it, I didn't see a Vacheron Constantin on the list. For being one of the "big 3", that's interesting. I thought maybe the Historiques American might make it.
Outstanding video. Even though you added your own thoughts in the end, and I agreed with all of them.. It would still be interesting to see your "Top 50" and the reasoning behind each one. Then, take it a step further and reach out to peers like Nico and others to get reaction videos to your list and get their thoughts. Would make a great series of videos for all.
No SKX? No Glycine Airman? No Vostok? No Timex Marlin? No Smith's? No Breguet? No Nomos? No Navitimer? No thanks... Not a great list, but a great video!
good point about vostok
Teddy mentioned the Glycine model toward the end.
@@angikarchmer5633 Teddy did. But this wasn't Teddy's list. This was Esquire's list. Hence, my comment.
The navitimer is mentionned in the list of 50.
Nomos def not on the list, since even Junghans is questioning.
This doesn’t take anything away from Nomos. An incredible watch brand with phenomenal value for money.
You cannot have a list of the 50 most important watches without a having a Timex on it. Ironman, Indiglo, Easy Reader, collabs with Peanuts characters, most famous tagline, etc. So much heritage! Even "A Man and His Watch" features two Timex's.
Yes, the BRAND is iconic, but I can’t think of a particular WATCH. It’s like Chevy, without the Corvette.
Seiko 6139! I mean the first ever automatic chronograph?
No Seiko Pogue?
I agree with this.
Sometimes first doesn’t mean iconic or important. In the car world the first cars are nowhere near iconic compared to special Ferrari or special race cars.
The Micky Mouse watch definitely belongs on this list.
Sure..if you're a boomer.
Totally agree with you that a Grand Seiko Spring Drive should be on the list. With regards to the Harwood Automatic, how did you set the time? I didn't see a crown. ETA: I found a video on the Harwood. The bezel rotated and turned an internal crown. I don't think I've seen that before.
MISSING:
1) Hamilton/Pulsar PSR: For me this was the most glaring omission. Ok, LED watches had their day and never progressed but the impact they made upon introduction was immense. I remember it looking like alien technology.
2) Seiko G757: For me the coolest Bond watch of them all. A massive leap forward that married beautifully with his ice white Lotus Esprit that made his previous Aston Martin look as high tech as a whistling kettle.
3) Timex: Any model really because they were the watch of the working man. Simple, reliable and affordable with unique running gear.
4) Tissot Seastar: A 'luxury' watch for real people. Still a stretch for many in an affordable sense but that's what made it a luxury watch for many people.
5) G Shock: For obvious reasons.
6) Seiko Bullhead: Quintessential 70s man's watch
Agreed. The first solid state watch.
With FP Journe, I always found his sideways tourbillon watch to be a gift from Zeus. How he made that is a level of genius and creativity I genuinely can't fathom. A real true accomplishment in watchmaking.
Teddy make your own list for us 😀❤️💯👊🏻⌚️, C grade for Esquire 😂
Love your thought-provoking video. In no particular order, Fabergé Visionnaire Chronograph, Patek Philippe's reference 5035 the first annual calendar watch, Grand Seiko Spring Drive, Citizen Eco Drive, BULGARI OCTO FINISSIMO ULTRA (1.8mm), PIAGET ALTIPLANO ULTIMATE CONCEPT (2mm), IWC Portugieser Eternal Calendar, Zenith El Primero Captain Winsor (probably the only annual calendar chronograph watch with 5Hz movement), Alain Silberstein Krono, Omega Louis Brandt minute repeater, Vacheron Constantin Tour de l’Ile Grand Complication, Rolex Datejust, A. Lange & Söhne Grand Complication 912.032, Patek Philippe Grandmaster Chime 5175R-001, Vacheron Constantine Celestia Astronomical Grand Complication 3600, Konstantin Chaykin Joker, The Jaeger-LeCoultre Hybris Mechanica Grande Sonnerie, Universal Genève Polerouter.
This list is a C- : I don’t understand how G-Shock is left out.
Yeah G Shock is so iconic, and changed the industry.. yet they left out G Shock. LOL
Another watch that I think MUST be on this list is the original Garmin Forerunner. Garmin doesn’t get much (any) love from watch enthusiasts, but its impact was huge. It was the first mainstream watch to do pace and mileage well, which is incredibly important for runners and athletes in general. Garmin really produced the first mass market fitness watch and I would argue that without the innovations introduced by Garmin you would never have seen brands like Fitbit and even the Apple Watch take off. To this day, most serious runners and bikers use Garmin over the competition because of their superior location accuracy compared to the competition.
This is tough for me to agree with, but I do think a list with the Apple Watch and so many military watches should include something actually widely used by the current military
Yes, the inclusion of Garmin hurts, but it was a big influence.
100% agree. The only actual sports watch brand (worth buying).
Timex Easyreader, and the other models sold *everywhere* in post WWII America. Very often a person's 1st watch.
I miss the whole eco-drive family.
All the solar powered watches.
The article is the definition of clickbait
That Mickey Mouse watch is a huge reason kids got into watches. It's the watch that got me into watches. It deserves its place.
If they wanted to do him then they should have put the Genta watch on the list instead
@@nikkimiddlekillsday5161not at all. Genta has his place, obviously, but this was the first MM watch.
Missing Bulova Accutron.
Bulova Accutron?
Good catch. I agree.
Totally agree. The Acutron was ground breaking
Breguet Reine de Naples. It is the first wristwatch and it is still an iconic design!
Not having a Breguet did feel strange.
I felt the same. If you talk about history, you just cannot leave breguet out. First wristwatch ever, patent of the tourbillon, I mean, come on!
❤ Love you Teddy! This video was so much fun for me… while I was scratching my head thinking how Esquire came up with the list at the same time I was confused why you were mixing up being Important with being Iconic. 😂
Dufour Simplicity for bringing attention back to hand finishing. Citizen Eco Drive. Grand Seiko VFA. A Breguet pocket tourbillon. This list is basically 80% a facebook poll of “best watches” + 20% random historic watches to try to legitimize the list.
The Ingersoll Mickey Mouse Watch was the first Mickey Mouse watch & second Character Watch ever been made. It was the ancestor of all Character Watches. For many people, their first watch was a Character Watch which Ignited their interest in watches. If Ingersoll was acquired by LVMH and was making character watches at Gerald Genta’s quality and price point, then you may not have problem with the Mickey Mouse Watch being on the list?
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From a watch novice and long-time executive, you have a bright future my friend!
Hamilton Pulsar. Really advanced tech for the time period and proved to everyone that quartz could also be on par with any other luxury watch brand. Not having a Hamilton on the list is just baffling.
I give this list a C. It has things like the Halter-Barnes, the Altiplano, the Octo Finissimo, but it has no SKX, Eco-Drive, or G-Shock models. This is like when a student crams for a test: he gets most of the multiple-choice items right, but flunks the essay. Or like when a guy cooks a steak medium rare, but forgets to season it.
Yes, on Mickey Mouse watch. Back in early 1960's when I was 8 or 9 years old my parents gave me my very first watch. A Mickey Mouse watch. I think that's what got me started on this crazy watch collecting journey.
I've never had one, but I strongly disagree with Teddy's view on it. Maybe it's a generational thing.
So many other ones could have been in the selection : the Frank Muller Crazy Hours, the Yema Superman, the Konstantin Chaykin Joker, the an0rdain Model 1, the Sea-Gull 1963, the Roger Dubuis Excalibur, the M.A.D. 1 from MB&F, an Accutron, A Movado, perhaps a Pulsar, ...
The Crazy Hours, totally. Weird that they picked a “high complication” FM instead. Not sure about the others. I’ve even owned a Superman more than once (reissue and original). It’s mostly derivative.
The movado yes, the others no.
@@KimiRai-lf3gn Frank Muller really is the godfather of independent watchmakers. Movado might be the Museum piece. I don’t think the M95, nice as it is for collectors, is an influence in the overall industry.
Excellent analysis Teddy. Esquire get C- for me. Besides the ones you mentioned, I would include: JLC Memovox, Bulova Accutron, Hamilton Ventura, Universal Geneve Polerouter and a Doxa sub.
Citizen ecodrive/dive watches…. Excellent video as ever
I sure learn so much from your channel. Timex is on par with Casio and Swatch for overall influence.
This was fun! I would say that Piaget is way more than just ultra thin. They’re great dress watches suited for daily wear. Respect for anyone not sporting one at a ballgame
Another good and distinctly objective review -- of a review, no less! Bravo! (where's Movado?).
Id add a timex in there. The marlin from the 60s, or even the expeditions from their modern catalogue, just because od the brand and value proposition of the watches.
Great show. Dead-on with G-Shock, but also missing the Hamilton electric, the accutron, Seiko Arnie, and yeah, all those Seiko divers! Way too many chronos and perpetuals on the original list for sure. 👍
I woud include JLC Reverso, Hamilton Pulsar, Seiko DK001, Timex ironman, Casio Calculator, Texas Instruments rg07, Citizen Aqualand, Breitling Emergency.
All of these were a great evolution. adding never seen before features to a wirstwatch.
Cheers from Rio de Janeiro/ Brazil 🇧🇷
I agree with the Casio calc.
Fun video. My 1953 Rose Gold Patek 96 was happy to see itself on the list. +1 on datejust. If you're going to have the 96, you must include the datejust. Both quintessential dress watches of their eras.
I will read the Esquire article and might get the answer, but if you're going to list the "most important" watches, the criteria should be defined up front.
Should there not be a solar watch, maybe an ecodrive. Something like a Certina DS? And i defintely agree on a Seiko diver like the 62MAS affecring watches worn today.
Strange they ignored solar-powered watches, which were big news for Citizen (1976) and Seiko (1978).
Great video as always. Thank you. Just wondering would glycine GMT be potentially more influential than the patek gmt given that glycine gmt came first? They have similar design queues as well? More curious than disagreeing. I dont really have a strong opinion on this.
8:38 There is a difference between most important and “iconic” those words are not synonymous. The Braun isn’t iconic, but the design language absolutely ushered in a wave of functional watch designs that is common decades later. It’s the next generation Bahaus design.
i know this sounds unusual , but the original tissot prs516 that had the racing bracelet , was as far as i know the first watch with that design of the bracelet, it saved tissot and changed the whole design of sporty watches maybe till now , Roger Moore wore it in one of his 007 movies .
Timex Ironman
Esquire did a pretty good job and your comments were also spot on. I think there are two that were not mentioned that deserve consideration. One is the JLC Memovox Alarm. The other is a watch/jewelry design hybrid that although iconic is rarely mentioned among great watches probably because it is for women. That is of course the Bulgari Serpenti Tubogas.
Nice point about the alarm. Memovox or Vulcan cricket probably deserve to be in the conversation.
Samuel Smith (1826-1875) began trading as jeweller and watchmaker (S Smith & Son) in 1851 at 149/151 Newington Causeway, London. His son (also Samuel, 1850-1932) took over the business aged 25 after his fathers death. By end 19thC
Not having the Vacheron Constantin Overseas was a huge miss-forgot about this one Teddy! Props on filling in most of the blanks on the rest though like the Patek Aquanaut and G Shock, also I agree with every last one of your “fringe” picks on this list.
From reading American literature over the years got the impression that the Mickey Mouse watch was somewhat iconic in the USA but not so much abroad.
It definitely was iconic for a period of time but that was like the it's like the late 60s 70s something like that.
I personally love when you do reaction videos. Feels like we get to see a more personal side of your view on the watch world. Would love if you did more of them
Teddy: you REALLY need to invite Matt Farah from The Smoking Tire to your event. He’s a huge fan of Grand Seiko, knows lots about watches, and could be a very interesting interview on your channel!
Matt explaining to Joe Rogan Grand seiko was massive for the brand. This event is already on the way but I agree for future events.
Matt Farah explaining to Joe Rogan about watches makes me interested in watch in the first place. And John Mayer of course
Doesn't Pewdiepie have one too?
The should've put a Breguet Tourbillon. Also a Casio Calculator watch.
The same argument you made for Junghans Max Bill fits perfectly for Braun as well. Otherwise, good overview..
I think one of the most telling things about this list is how little non watch people know about time keeping and its importance to the history of the world. This is especially glaring when it comes from a publication with the resources at its disposal. The Citizen atomic time keeping watches, or the most accurate wrist watch in the world, the Citizen caliber 0100. There are many others that have been mentioned but the omissions say more than what was included to me.
Missed a citizen eco-drive and the Longines Legend Diver.
Whoa Teddy! Great event with GS! You guys are really pushing the boundaries for watch nerds
Good vídeo Teddy ..I agree with you. Some Seiko watches should be included....And also some brands that were pioneer on a trend Though today it is not a current brand
Teddy, I love your watch videos. I just saw the most profound video on watches this morning, and you made it. The video you made about The Ball Watch Co. and their importance to the North American Railroad System absolutely blew my mind. It was a riveting story you told. I am 76 years old now and yet I've never heard of Ball watches before. The brand never comes up in the list of "usual suspects" in any cool watch discussions that I've ever heard. Your video made me curious to see what Ball watches are doing today, so I went to the website and I was totally blown away with what I saw. So why is that brand with such a rich important history never given any love? I love watches but I do not own anything one would consider a Luxury Watch, but after seeing your Ball Watch video this morning, there is no question for me. The Ball watch would be my #1 choice for owing a luxury brand. I am curious why you didn't mention anything about Ball watches as making the "Most Important" list. Thank you for the great job you do. Much respect - Jim
Maybe I didn’t pay attention, but was the Bulova Accutron mentioned ? That “tuning fork” marketing blitz was classic !
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Most glaring omission for me was G-Shock.
Rolex Datejust was missing.
Perhaps a missing Breitling Top Time. * The fact I own a nice 1966 model and had it serviced about 6 months ago does not influence choice. LOL
All IMHO.
I really enjoyed this one, Teddy. Thanks!
I seriously wonder which muppet considered Braun AW10 on the list 🤦🏻♂️
Maybe the Movado Museum watch for starting the minimalist fashion watch trend
50 is a big number when considering "the most important" examples of anything, especially watches. A more discerning number might have been 20 or 25.
50 was a tough number as it makes the omissions much more noticeable. When I began I was more accepting of the takes as I thought it would include mostly everything, but I gradually started to realize as I was going through it that there were going to be some obvious picks left off.
I think you did great work@@TeddyBaldassarre . For me when the number of examples reaches a certain number, the lines between important for a brand vs. important for watch-making, or iconic vs important, start to get blurred.
They should’ve included the Brosnan era Omega Seamaster.
They have the Seamaster Pro on the list
@@TheLute70 Yup. I’m the idiot that missed it.
I absolutely agree with all the additional watches Teddy mentioned. Particularly the type XX. I think Longines was very under-represented but then again, this is not new with Longines in this day and age.
Another great video, Teddy. Well done!
Hi Teddy,I have a hard time with the moon swath being on this list. And I agree that it's hard to believe they left the G-Shock off. I would also add any Citizen Eco-Drive as they popularized and perfected solar watches
Teddy's list is a lot more on point, the omissions are glaring, especially the distinct lack of Seiko's. Great video but you can tell the exclusiveness of Esquire shining through. Surprised they put the Swatch & Casio in if I'm honest.
Timex indiglo, Seiko Willard, Seiko Pouge, Hamilton Ventura, rado diastar, doxa 300t, bulova lunar pilot… just a couple of my suggestions
Casio World Time (Royale)
Obviously not among the best watches of all time. But in terms of functionality, price, units sold and Icon status. It’s a very important watch.
Especially in the last 5 years, the Hamilton Khaki Field line has really changed the field watch industry. I think it deserves some recognition. Or at least the original WWII field watches need to be on this list.
C at best for that list, good video Teddy, and very diplomatic!
The page on the IWC B-Uhr/Flieger is quite muddled. Firstly, the picture is that of the 'A-Urh' (Baumuster A) or Pilot's watch. The B-Urh is is the navigator's watch and has an outer ring for the minutes and an inner ring for the hours.
Hi Teddy! I am new to the watch scene and would love to see a video on your thoughts about best his and hers watch combinations!
Not sure who was first on these, but there should be a satellite carriage watch (Urwerk 103 would be good given its case design) and driver projection watch like the Amida Digitrend or GP Casquette
0:59. Joe Kirk is already preparing by doing one arm push ups, meditating, and drinking tea (made from tea leaves harvested from Mt Cheechenchonga)
Very nice vidéo Teddy !
I would love to see you making this kind of video with Nico Leonard ! 😁
It’s a list a few people paid to be on - nice to see Teddy being great, and schilling his business for a change. Great video ❤
My Seiko Spring Drive is a testament to the pursuit of showing the smooth flow of time.
No Vacheron!? Enjoyed the video and your comments. Thanks Teddy
Vertex is coming out with a reissue of the Dirty Dozen here shortly. Can wait!
i love you so much! I recently just found your mamacoo and i’m in love!! Your videos are so fun and you energy is just MWAH! keep living your life
No Tissot Touch, a smart watch 20 years before smart watches.