Space Stalingrad: The Underrated Brutality Behind the Space Battle that HAD to be Won [Kamino]

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024

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  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 11 месяцев назад +212

    Respect to the clone who helped anakin keep the fett d.n.a. out of ventresse's hands.

    • @zeusz3237
      @zeusz3237 9 месяцев назад +2

      That moment was just plain chad!

  • @Taliesin-xd7ke
    @Taliesin-xd7ke 11 месяцев назад +320

    For me it was the Battle of Umbara, it had everything that's terrifying about war, including treachery!😱

  • @articusramos808
    @articusramos808 11 месяцев назад +91

    Hell of a big fight even during classic clone wars maps

  • @arctrooperecho2654
    @arctrooperecho2654 11 месяцев назад +23

    RIP 99, you where an inspiration to us all

  • @thalmoragent9344
    @thalmoragent9344 11 месяцев назад +189

    I've always wanted the Clone Wars to go deeper into these battles. Like sure if they don't want to show random clone units, fine, show us cases of Anakin and the 501st just going out to a planet, and spending some time there before moving on to the next.
    Bad Batch really could've revolved around the Republic/Imperial Era of warfare. Should've called it "Rise of the Empire" or something, and show the Reconquest of the Outer-Rim, the "Second Round" of the Clone Wars after the Empire was formed, albeit we don't get Jedi, perhaps the occasional Inquisitor showing up later on to lead some of the troops where Jedi are involved.

    • @DarthDread-oh2ne
      @DarthDread-oh2ne 11 месяцев назад +15

      If they don't want to show random clone units, then, don't name your show "clone wars".

    • @klaykid117
      @klaykid117 11 месяцев назад +1

      Usually that kind of stuff is reserved only as throw away lines in books

    • @Enigma75614
      @Enigma75614 11 месяцев назад +2

      Bad Batch should have just been an anthology series.

    • @frostedhams
      @frostedhams 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@DarthDread-oh2neWhat would you have them name it? The clone wars show is the best piece of starwars apart from the first 6 movies. Hell some of the arcs in TCW are better than most the movies.

    • @UTTPCHICKENNUGGET
      @UTTPCHICKENNUGGET 10 месяцев назад

      @@frostedhams orgasm

  • @arthurbrax6561
    @arthurbrax6561 11 месяцев назад +36

    Good question is why in the Second Battle of Geonosis the Republic still didn't use fighters to defend the LAAT or get air supremacy before the landing started.

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 10 месяцев назад +10

      That's basically what they did. Which is WHY we barely see ANY CIS air power in that battle. An not hardly at all helping their apparently under ridiculous attack Droid forces on the main field. They just didn't have it

  • @TaraCicora
    @TaraCicora 11 месяцев назад +25

    Just gonna say, I loved this comic! And I enjoyed this episode in TCW.

  • @hunterkiller1440
    @hunterkiller1440 11 месяцев назад +15

    I love Clone Pilot designs. It looks amazing.

  • @mrmacura3421
    @mrmacura3421 11 месяцев назад +30

    What does not make sense to me is why the Republic did not activate Kamino's planetary shield after all Starfighters that were to join the battle had left. I suppose it had one given how important Kamino was for the Republic and those pieces of debris could have done serious damage had they fallen on any of the Kaminoan cities.

  • @luwucian4497
    @luwucian4497 11 месяцев назад +11

    i love how in this comic the jedi starfighters design change to a acclamators for no reason like 2 times hahaha

  • @weevil9619
    @weevil9619 11 месяцев назад +5

    So glad we can still have comics and books to be able to learn about our favorite sci-fi stories.

  • @schurerest7661
    @schurerest7661 11 месяцев назад +6

    All the battles space or land love these videos about clone wars battles!

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 11 месяцев назад +58

    Is it just me or Kamino suddenly sounded as important as Constantinople in our world?

    • @TbV-st8ef
      @TbV-st8ef 9 месяцев назад +1

      It's Istanbul not Constantinople

    • @lerneanlion
      @lerneanlion 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@TbV-st8ef I know that. I was referring to how important such a city was when it comes to international politics, economy and geopolitics, which was before Turkey was proclaimed and before Constantinople became Istanbul.

    • @TbV-st8ef
      @TbV-st8ef 9 месяцев назад

      @@lerneanlion alr

  • @fatalord1353
    @fatalord1353 11 месяцев назад +11

    Best Star Wars lore channel fr

  • @watercannonscollaboration2281
    @watercannonscollaboration2281 11 месяцев назад +12

    At the end of the day, Palpatine knew this would’ve been a republic victory

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 11 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah the whole point was to bolster Kamino's defences with the Kamino Guard (grey striped clones)

  • @EzekielDeLaCroix
    @EzekielDeLaCroix 10 месяцев назад +22

    Since the war was orchestrated, Imagine if both Palpatine and Dooku received news of Separatist victory. They would be shitting their pants.

    • @conallgarrison9095
      @conallgarrison9095 9 месяцев назад

      i agree

    • @DavidVillaTorre
      @DavidVillaTorre 8 месяцев назад

      I would shit my pants too if my scapegoat that I severely crippled to make sure it didn't win suddenly won the most important battle to turn around the war

    • @Gus-n9u
      @Gus-n9u Месяц назад

      Way I see it, Dooku may have panicked, but the Emperor just needed the clones to pull off 66, he didn’t need the republic to win. The Jedi are his major concern, it wouldn’t be that hard for him as the chancellor to just pull Anakin away and do 66 shortly after, claiming it was Dooku’s doing. Then he would use the fear to convince the senate to give him his supreme power, force the separatists into a deal (or just have Anakin do what he does best) and boom, he’s got a galactic empire that’s not all that different to the one he got in the end. It’s never fully revealed how long the plan was in the works, but Plagius had been working on it for decades, and it’s even possible that it goes back further. So that level of flexibility and responsiveness would not shock me!

  • @zexalbrony4799
    @zexalbrony4799 11 месяцев назад +10

    Wait you did a ground battle analysis of the Second Battle of Kamino? When? I don't remember that video and I love the second Battle of Kamino. With the exception of the season 5 premiere, which wasn't even supposed to be the Darth Maul episode as that was meant to be episode 13 which is fixed on the DVDs but the higher-ups did it anyways because of how season 4 ended, the two-parter season 3 premier was the best Clone Wars season opening ever.
    Also, if you're looking for more battles to discuss, there are plenty of blink-and-you-miss-them ones from the montages in Chapter 22 of the 2003 Clone Wars Micro-series, or there are some great battles from the Outer Rim Sieges you've yet to discuss like the Battle of New Plympto or the Battle of Murkhana, there's also the Battles of Mon Cala that took place during the Clone Wars, or the Battle of Dathomir where it was Nightsisters vs Grievous, and as much as I love the Clone Wars there are other battles from other eras that could be fun to look at too, like the Battle of Hoth or when the Empire invaded Kashyyyk in 19 BBY shortly after the Clone Wars to get those 8 Jedi that had teamed up with the Wookies. There are a lot of great battles to choose from, a lot from the Clone Wars, but some from other eras too.

  • @IBW_3000
    @IBW_3000 11 месяцев назад +8

    F for 99. Those bombs halted an infantry advance.

  • @danese1636
    @danese1636 11 месяцев назад +18

    It's fitting: The only ones capable of defeating Kamino were the ones that were born and raised there.

  • @Gufupandi09th13
    @Gufupandi09th13 11 месяцев назад +5

    Mygeeto is the true Stalingrad

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 11 месяцев назад +31

    Big respect to the clone pilots

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 11 месяцев назад

      Why? Clone pilots are crap.

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 11 месяцев назад +7

    Apparently Grevious read about the Legend of The Odyssey.. an then treated Kamino like it was Troy. Too bad the Jedi an GAR apparently didn't trust "Greeks" in this one.

    • @youngmonkey2504
      @youngmonkey2504 10 месяцев назад

      Starwars is from a different, distant galaxy

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 11 месяцев назад +4

    Great video. I wonder what naval battle you'll cover next.

  • @MandoSki464
    @MandoSki464 9 месяцев назад

    Just another story that deepens my love for the clones. Been into 40k much heavier over the past couple of years because of Disney but was just thinking about it earlier today and instantly told myself that regardless we still have Star Wars legends which as a mandalorian and clone fan will always mean Star Wars is my main universe. Remember watching attack of the clones in 2002 which had my young self jumping head first into Star Wars and the clones cemented that. Though can’t lie, I was definitely rooting for Jango in his duel/fight with Obi-wan in our first trip to Kamino. Thank you my friend for keeping this spirit alive and going!

  • @OuterRimPride
    @OuterRimPride 10 месяцев назад +1

    “Lol.” -Count Dooku
    “lmao.” -Darth Sidious

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 11 месяцев назад +3

    I love your channel it's so cool l will never stop watching it

  • @tk-6967
    @tk-6967 11 месяцев назад +5

    I don't think the CIS had the ability to win the 2nd battle. Grievous' flagship sat back the entire time while the Munificents just gave the republic a huge advantage.

  • @eddieram435
    @eddieram435 11 месяцев назад +459

    This is a side of the Clone Wars we should had seen. If Disney had tapped into this universe and steer away from Filoni'a childish approach, this conflict would had been more dark.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 11 месяцев назад +47

      Well we got what we got, and we know Disney wouldn't commit.

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days 11 месяцев назад +40

      Disney doesn’t know how to do anything Star Wars and Filoni has no idea what he’s doing, even if I don’t agree that Filoni’s approach is ‘childish’.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@teleportedbreadfor3days from what I was told he only done ten episodes of the Clone Wars.

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days 11 месяцев назад +16

      @@merafirewing6591 I don’t think that’s true. All I know is that both he and George Lucas worked on TCW together, but the idea that Filoni only did ten episodes doesn’t feel right to me.

    • @liamthompson8563
      @liamthompson8563 11 месяцев назад +38

      Filoni understands Star Wars but for some reason, he just can't make a fully adult SW show like Andor.

  • @botondkovacs6195
    @botondkovacs6195 10 месяцев назад +1

    Must have been a pretty stressful chessparty for Sidious.

  • @goldeagle6431
    @goldeagle6431 11 месяцев назад +6

    The Senate would have won Stalingrad SINGLE-HANDEDLY.

  • @emmanuelmedinaMatthew92
    @emmanuelmedinaMatthew92 10 месяцев назад +2

    Can you look it the battle of Mandalorian in the 7 seasons of Star Wars of the clones. that is a good battle what do you says Generation Tech. ; )

  • @mitchcoleman1238
    @mitchcoleman1238 11 месяцев назад +2

    I expected you to cover the clone rebellion that took place in the original Battlefront 2, but I keep forgetting that’s not canon!

    • @MyCaio1997
      @MyCaio1997 11 месяцев назад +2

      He already did though...

  • @Aaronian99
    @Aaronian99 10 месяцев назад

    Clone Wars Mimban wouldve been epic to see, wish we had more footage of it

  • @trevordurkin1940
    @trevordurkin1940 11 месяцев назад +1

    Judging by the title before watching, sounds more like the Battle of Britain to me

  • @1989gibbi
    @1989gibbi 10 месяцев назад

    Yularen was not the one who noted that grievous was using his smaller ships to protect his command ship. It was Shaak Ti

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wasn't tarkin present at one battle of kimono. ( naval) ?

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 11 месяцев назад +7

    Lessons to be learned:
    - When in doubt as a Sepper, never play the peacemongering hero during the start of a manipulative war.
    - Hyperspace rings deserve to be rendered obsolete; the future existence of craft succeeding the Jedi Aethersprites, like the A-Wings and TIE Predators, prove that point.
    - If one retcons the "first battle" away from the continuity and replaced it with a different take on the battle involving squid transport droids and some decrepit clone martyr, then you're a bastard.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah, makes sense.
      Always slays me when I hear "we are keepers of the peace, not soldiers", and I'm like... bro, you're a GENERAL in the Grand ARMY of the Republic. Who are you fooling? 😅
      As for 99, he was a cool idea to see decrepit Clones and how they're treated, I think it still worked out well for representing that.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@thalmoragent9344 I call it a win win.

  • @spockamania
    @spockamania 9 месяцев назад

    Makes me wonder; what was Sideous' plan if any of the invasions of Kamino suceeded? I have to imagine destroying clone production would have been real bad for his plan

  • @amarured
    @amarured 11 месяцев назад

    The thumbnail tho 💔😭🔥🔥

  • @choongweijie5851
    @choongweijie5851 11 месяцев назад +1

    Please talk about the D1 aerial battle droid in your next video please.

  • @talonnewton5486
    @talonnewton5486 11 месяцев назад +1

    Who does a lot of the renders you use in your thumbnails?

  • @deltaboss1190
    @deltaboss1190 10 месяцев назад

    Kamino - Stalingrad
    Umbara - Vietnam

  • @Falkriim
    @Falkriim 10 месяцев назад

    Great video

  • @nathanweast4397
    @nathanweast4397 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wasn't this battle also won due to the new deployment of BARC speeders?

  • @ReiMari12
    @ReiMari12 9 месяцев назад

    There are so many moments where this war could have gone wildly f script. Palps was insanely lucky.

  • @natz__
    @natz__ 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wait the guy who built a junk Jedi temple was a fighter pilot lol

  • @hazat8123
    @hazat8123 11 месяцев назад

    Palpatine: execute order 227 no step back

  • @banner1390
    @banner1390 10 месяцев назад

    Clone Armor mk1 is the coolest!

  • @Shadowpack95
    @Shadowpack95 11 месяцев назад +2

    why did Sideous want the Mon Cala officer dead?

  • @jakewisher6534
    @jakewisher6534 11 месяцев назад +1

    Long time viewer, I love your work!! I think your channel could really pop off on this side of RUclips if you shortened the titles to the videos cause this content is too good for the views you have been getting.

  • @DarthVages
    @DarthVages 11 месяцев назад +1

    👍

  • @macwade2755
    @macwade2755 9 месяцев назад

    This is Canon for me!

  • @noname-bu1ux
    @noname-bu1ux 10 месяцев назад

    Ok, but who's space Stalin? Princess leia? Luthen? Saw Guerrara? Cant be count dooku, cause hes religious.

  • @ourheroartyom2900
    @ourheroartyom2900 10 месяцев назад

    The separatist mon calamari must have been admiral ackbars father

  • @Vizsla-wy3ql
    @Vizsla-wy3ql 11 месяцев назад +3

    The Clone Wars Era is basally if the Weimar Republic of Germany started, fought, and won WWII, and was then overthrown by the Fascist Party.

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 11 месяцев назад +1

      Not really. The Empire wasn't fascist. Also the Senate had a way lower approval rate than the Chancellor.

    • @CT-1311
      @CT-1311 10 месяцев назад

      Pretty much it makes sense

    • @jonnyv9049
      @jonnyv9049 10 месяцев назад

      Its a very different situation politically because the republic isnt like a nation in this World but more like a huge federation, like EU or so, it has won the war against the Seperatists and the Trade Federation behind it, at least more or less, but it was still very unstable so the ruling class need to have a more restrictive government, the fascist dictatorship the empire was, to regain order in the galaxis

  • @joshuadamroth5303
    @joshuadamroth5303 11 месяцев назад

  • @Private.Willie.Stroker
    @Private.Willie.Stroker 10 месяцев назад +1

    tbh clone pilots and ships where kina useless, since most cis/droid ones dint need pilots..
    if you think about it any droid fighter could just kamikaze into bridges of capital ships like the rebel did in ep6, they even had those small boarding ships that where kinda shaped like a drill bit, add a pod racer engine on it and it could just fly trough a shielded ship...

  • @davidordaz5251
    @davidordaz5251 11 месяцев назад

    And at the end of the war was all for nothing

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 11 месяцев назад

      Weren't the Kamino cities completely abandoned by the time the Clone Rebellion happened and ended?

  • @Courier6FNV
    @Courier6FNV 10 месяцев назад

    This is my man problem with star wars, they don’t really do wars well in most media aside from things like this.

  • @ice_siberia1546
    @ice_siberia1546 7 месяцев назад

    Star wars helldivers is a game I really really need and I'll leave this comment everywhere so someone sees it

  • @RossIsFine
    @RossIsFine 11 месяцев назад +3

    Considering its a fairy tale, it doesn't matter lol..

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 11 месяцев назад +5

      Then why are you even here if you don't even care?!

  • @arielfeuerstein8635
    @arielfeuerstein8635 8 месяцев назад

    1.25x speed ✅

  • @StonewallTitlow
    @StonewallTitlow 11 месяцев назад +10

    Putting Passel Argente in charge of a fleet is like putting a low ranked corporal in charge of an army.

  • @sarson25
    @sarson25 11 месяцев назад

    This stream was special .