I have one of the early I think gen 1 rifles and its simply amazing despite lacking a few of the upgrades like ambi bolt hold open and the mlok/modular rail.
Epic video, brother. I’m a massive POF too. Was gutted when I heard about Frank passing. He was truly a legend/genius. Always forward thinking and improving upon traditional designs. I have a 12” p415 pistol in 5.56, 16” Renegade + in 5.56 and their 16” 7.62 upper (
E2 has four cuts in the chamber! It provides true push pull extraction! Makes a huge difference! See Alabama arsenals video on the POF renegade .300 blackout!
When the barrel fits tight in that way it's best to heat the receiver with a heat gun and it'll slip right on then keep that tight thermal fit once receivers cooled down.
I like the forward rail's, adjustment window, for the gas block. I have considered sawing / cutting out a portion of my rail (w/ Superlative Adjustable gas block), to allow for adjustment tools.
I have one of their p15's aka the puritan. It's a short stroke gas piston and it runs great. My only complaint it the lack of ability to change handgaurds so im stuck using 2pc delta ring compatable stuff.
I’ve got a rare 12.5 Renegade Plus and just love it……as nice as my Giessele , ….plus…a bit more tweakable. I wish they sold barrel nuts and barrels for 7.62 …..😞
Great review. Question..when you installed the QD plate lug nutz on the side of the hand guard, did the nut staked the heat sink under the hand guard? I notice my one staked the heat sink a bit. Not sure if this is normal. Thanks.
Can you do a more detailed explanation , adjustments you’ve made with the dictator gas block? Just got my renegade plus and it’s throwing fire right now lol
Greetings, Sir. Do you know if the P-415 Edge Uppers would work with a Franklin Armory BFSIII Equipped M4 Lower Receiver? Is there any reason why the binary firing mode would not function?
Just wondering if that's the same handguard used on the Minuteman DI rifle which does not come with the adjustable "Dictator" gas block. I like to know if the Dictator gas block can be installed on the Minuteman.
What do you mean RUclips won't let you assemble the rifle ? There are ton's of video's demonstrating the assembly of an AR-15 & firearms in general ? I don't get it. ??
Correct, and they either have or will be flagged. There are lots of rules we have to follow to not get shut down. A major one is all those channels that charge companies for videos. Doing so and not stating it on each video is not only against RUclips rules, but also against federal law.
i just ordered the Edge last night. But people are saying that I made a mistake, if I only bought it for home defense. I would love to get your oppion.
I saw POF sells 'Renegade Rail and Dictator Kit' on their website. I am quite new to the AR Building world, do you know if this will fit a Mil Spec AR10? If so, I would definitely purchase it as an upgrade!
@@GBGuns Around $800 for what will basically be a POF complete rifle is a far cry from being $1300 to $1500 for a basic factory made one. Depending on where you get it. Thanks brother!
It comes down to “I’ll rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it”. Though I can totally understand that if you’re just building a range toy, or something where your life won’t depend on it, that you don’t include it in the build. Maybe my opinion will change if I ever get to build something like that. I currently don’t have that luxury, as I’m limited as to what I can afford, so I have to depend/rely on them for usage outside the range.
Great review. Question. When you installed the QD plate lug nuts on the side of the hand guard, did the lug nuts staked the heat sink under the hand guard? I noticed on my one staked the heat sink a bit. Not sure if this is normal. Thanks.
I love all three of my POF rifles.
I love my POF Minuteman! In my opinion, it is as close to custom as you can get off the shelf. With a great price!
I think this was just the right length of video and density of information/words.
I have one of the early I think gen 1 rifles and its simply amazing despite lacking a few of the upgrades like ambi bolt hold open and the mlok/modular rail.
Epic video, brother. I’m a massive POF too. Was gutted when I heard about Frank passing. He was truly a legend/genius. Always forward thinking and improving upon traditional designs. I have a 12” p415 pistol in 5.56, 16” Renegade + in 5.56 and their 16” 7.62 upper (
Great video Graham! I appreciate the overview. I've always been curious about how the hand guard of POF attaches.
E2 has four cuts in the chamber! It provides true push pull extraction! Makes a huge difference! See Alabama arsenals video on the POF renegade .300 blackout!
When the barrel fits tight in that way it's best to heat the receiver with a heat gun and it'll slip right on then keep that tight thermal fit once receivers cooled down.
I like the forward rail's, adjustment window, for the gas block. I have considered sawing / cutting out a portion of my rail (w/ Superlative Adjustable gas block), to allow for adjustment tools.
Article: www.ammoland.com/2019/07/what-makes-patriot-ordnance-factory-ar-15-uppers-different/#axzz5tK6P0000
Excellent information !
Excellent video !
5⭐
i got 2 pof rifle/pistol. simply awesome
Muzzle device: OSS Helix QD 762. ;)
WELL REVIEWED...AND APPRECIATED!
I have one of their p15's aka the puritan. It's a short stroke gas piston and it runs great. My only complaint it the lack of ability to change handgaurds so im stuck using 2pc delta ring compatable stuff.
It's a tough choice, so many excellent piston ARs out on the market, LWRC, POF, and PWS
I am partial to POF, first and lwrc a very very close second, but PWS is right there as well.
Don’t forget black rain ordnance!! I’m a bro freak! Great great great rifles! But….. pof is my next one I’m getting fo sho!
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BRO
Go back to kindergarten
Thanks
Did you see any benefit in going with the bootleg upper over the POF. Does POF still coat the inside of the upper with nickel boron
I don't know if POF still coats. I used the Bootleg because it's what I had on hand and I liked the aesthetics.
@@GBGuns Looks like PWS mod 2
Thank you 😊
I’ve got a rare 12.5 Renegade Plus and just love it……as nice as my Giessele , ….plus…a bit more tweakable. I wish they sold barrel nuts and barrels for 7.62 …..😞
Will a 556 POF complete upper fit a Palmetto State lower 556? I assume it would
I don't see why not
Great review. Question..when you installed the QD plate lug nutz on the side of the hand guard, did the nut staked the heat sink under the hand guard? I notice my one staked the heat sink a bit. Not sure if this is normal. Thanks.
So...how many ounces is "lightweight" ?
I cant get past the fact when I see POF I see plenty of fish...
😂
Can you do a more detailed explanation , adjustments you’ve made with the dictator gas block? Just got my renegade plus and it’s throwing fire right now lol
What do you mean "throwing fire"?
Greetings, Sir. Do you know if the P-415 Edge Uppers would work with a Franklin Armory BFSIII Equipped M4 Lower Receiver? Is there any reason why the binary firing mode would not function?
I don't know for sure, but I don't see why not, I've heard you just need a compatible BCG
@@GBGuns Thank you.
Just wondering if that's the same handguard used on the Minuteman DI rifle which does not come with the adjustable "Dictator" gas block. I like to know if the Dictator gas block can be installed on the Minuteman.
It's pretty tall, I don't know ow for sure.
Does it come with a proprietary tool for the barrel nut? If not what did you use? Thanks
Bought one of their handguards recently. They recommend using the Magpul armorers wrench
What do you mean RUclips won't let you assemble the rifle ? There are ton's of video's demonstrating the assembly of an AR-15 & firearms in general ? I don't get it. ??
Correct, and they either have or will be flagged. There are lots of rules we have to follow to not get shut down. A major one is all those channels that charge companies for videos. Doing so and not stating it on each video is not only against RUclips rules, but also against federal law.
He's wrong about the e2 chamber having 2 cut channels. It has 4 cut channels. Not 2. Just saying..
Or is it two pair? (Just teasing)
Graham Baates haha
@@GBGuns Two squared.
i just ordered the Edge last night. But people are saying that I made a mistake, if I only bought it for home defense. I would love to get your oppion.
Why? What are they saying?
I saw POF sells 'Renegade Rail and Dictator Kit' on their website. I am quite new to the AR Building world, do you know if this will fit a Mil Spec AR10? If so, I would definitely purchase it as an upgrade!
The AR 10 is a bigger platform that has no milspec. They do make parts for that size, you'll just need to be sure the gas journal size matches
Wait .. What ? No ( E2 ) Chamber ? Thats the Critical feature of the POF
Nice job GB. What's the price point we're looking at for this set up?
The prices bounce around a bit. All in this is about $800
@@GBGuns Around $800 for what will basically be a POF complete rifle is a far cry from being $1300 to $1500 for a basic factory made one. Depending on where you get it. Thanks brother!
I know it doesn’t see a lot of use usually, but having no forward assist really makes me paranoid...
But uf you need it something is very wrong
Correct. Why I’m paranoid on not having it.
Training perhaps. I was that way because of the Army
It comes down to “I’ll rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it”.
Though I can totally understand that if you’re just building a range toy, or something where your life won’t depend on it, that you don’t include it in the build.
Maybe my opinion will change if I ever get to build something like that. I currently don’t have that luxury, as I’m limited as to what I can afford, so I have to depend/rely on them for usage outside the range.
Do you actually hear 9 distinct clicks with dictator gas block?
Not so much hear as feel.
Id go with a VG6 Gamma with the cage for a muzzle device
I like pof a lot but I thing they a to much on the aesthetics.
It’s hard to listen to you say, “etcetera” one or two times in every sentence.
Life must be so difficult
Great review. Question. When you installed the QD plate lug nuts on the side of the hand guard, did the lug nuts staked the heat sink under the hand guard? I noticed on my one staked the heat sink a bit. Not sure if this is normal. Thanks.
I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you asking if the nuts turned enough to dig into the handguard?
@@GBGuns Apologies for the confusion. Yes, does the QD lug nuts turned enough to dig into the heat sink under the hand guard?
@@enam100 I don't know, haven't looked, but I don't think they need to be thattight
@@GBGuns Thank you so much.