@@Язепс Frank died following a traffic accident on June 18, 2020, in north Phoenix. According to an initial news report he took evasive action (he swerved) to avoid a collision with someone who had turned in front of him. The other driver left the scene, and as of that report remained unknown. I suggest doing a search for "In Loving Memory of Frank DeSomma POF-USA." This 8 1/2 minute tribute of still photos is so very extra special.
@@larrywhited3070I heard, saluted his memory, and ask that God rest his soul, and poured a beer to flames for him He actually was the American Mikael Kalashnikov
I too was VERY upset when I heard our brother passed away! He was a HUGE 2A advocate and truly changed the game in so many ways! I have never had a chance to pick up one of his creations, but I think I will have to make it happen very soon! Thanks 4 the video...
With knowing nothing about Patriot Ordnance Factory and strictly on the recommendation of a trusted gun shop owner I ordered the Revolution Piston model exactly as shown in this video. (A Direct Impingement model is now also available.) This was just 2 weeks before the traffic accident that took Frank on June 18th, 2020. I received the rifle on June 19th, one day after Frank died. At the time I knew nothing about Frank DeSomma, knew nothing about the accident. It was a sad time to have learned shortly thereafter of his passing. Frank truly was rightfully proud of his work. He was an uncompromising patriot, and he was uncompromising in his attention to quality and detail. How fortunate I am to have one of his excellent rifles. I wish I could have met him.
@@GBGuns Thanks for the feedback. From what I've been able to tell Frank was also the type of man that the country needs. By the way, I should have thanked you for producing this fine video. I very much appreciated your step-by-step review. While I've always been familiar with firearms (starting at age 6 with a Marlin .22) I never sought to become an expert, so it helps to follow the reasoning of others with more experience.
I just put a order in for a 12.5" piston revolution two days ago, they were sold out of the specific model I wanted, it will be my 4th POF USA rifle, I absolutely love POF and am kinda a nerdy fanboy!! Great video sir!!!
Well done. Makes me want one. Maybe, get to shoot one one day!! Thanks for doing that and may your friend Frank rest in peace knowing people like you are appreciative of his work.
Congratulations on receiving such a fine blaster. I first heard about this gun from Carl's video on InRange TV. I think he has the DI version but not certain. I love the ingenuity behind it.
I never understood the price tag tell I saw this video. I was wanting a 338 Lapua but after this vid my money is likely going to be used to get one of these engineering masterpieces
Your making me giddy. I just bought a burnt bronze 16.5” pof Revolution DI .308 last night. The grey is very nice. Adding a primary arms GLx4 2.5-10x44mm ACSS Raptor M2 with offset he508t elite, atlas bipod, modlight PLHv2/Reptilia body/DS00 tail cap & unity tactical hot button rail mount I’m fde, along with new bcm grip, bcm Sopmod stock& swapping a 3.5lb pof flat 2-Stage trigger & DeadAir muzzle break for when sandman is out of nfa jail. Congrats on the acquisition. I’m a bit excited about getting mine in if can’t tell. Lol. As been waiting couple years for this one.
Nice I ordered a black 12.5" piston revolution two days ago, I am ALSO pretty excited. The burnt bronze is pretty good looking gun! I own a p415 10.5" with the gray finish like on the rifle in the video, and it looks even better in person. ....you have good taste sir!!
I was wrong, the cerakote threw me off. I wasnt aware you could get a Revolution in Tungsten. The Revolution is my next POF. Frank made some amazing firearms. p.s. I was the idiot that thought you had a P308 Edge SPR.
@@GBGuns without issue. Thousand plus rounds, still as accurate as it was on day one. Only issue I have had was a charging handle broke in two. Looked to be defective one, POF sent me a new one, free of charge.
Very good video. I am fortunate enough to own one in burnt bronze and I absolutely love it. Extremely low maintenance, very, very accurate, dependable, a simply work of art. I also use this gun for hunting and I couldn’t be happier. For accuracy target shooting I use the Federal Gold Medal Sierra Match in 168 gr. Sub Moa all day long at 100 to 150 yards. I have not shot it at longer range, and I cannot wait to try and see what it can do, but something tells me that it will be capable as well.
I got a new POF revolution 20" cmr, I have many other ar's and you can just tell the pof is definetly a cut above your average ar and even above average ar's the materials used are better, the fit and finish is better, the quality of everything is better, once u take it apart and hold it side by side with your other rifles you will see pof is clearly a cut above. Now that said I actually have a few ar's that are a cut above. Nemo arms is clearly a cut above, lwrc m6 ic a5 is clearly a cut above, and pof is clearly a cut above
My POF is insane tight too. What helps with the pins, is press the upper and lower against each other a little while pushing the pin out. makes it easy
I bought the DI version of this and it's my go to. Power, decent accuracy, superior quality, reliability... what else can I ask for? That said, make sure you give it good ammunition. That'll cost you, but I've found that it WILL malfunction with cheap ammo.
Also, My P415 Edge came with a nickel plated carrier and nitride bolt like yours. but the site says it should all be nickel. When I contacted them about it, they told me some rifles produced in 2020, due to supplier issues. They had to ship with black nitride bolts. If you contact them and send them your bolt, they'll replace it free with the proper nickel one
@@GBGuns - Ha. IDK if I'd characterize it as an anchor - at 8 lbs it's fairly light for a 308. I expect it's chunkier than the Revolution, though. And, SCAR mags are $30+, and the Timney trigger was pretty much a mandatory upgrade. One plus the SCAR would have is the fully folding buttstock, but that's not usually a big deal.
I own both, and they are both very nice guns. I would not say one is better then the other just different. The POF definitely has some innovation on it that that LWRC does not come with, the heat sink barrel nut, e2 chamber, the gas blocks are alittle more tunable on higher end the POF rifles, but lwrc has a tighter fitting reciever group, I like lwrc piston system a miniscule amount better but that's OPINION, and truthfully if you asked me tomorrow I might tell you POF has the better piston system, both systems work very well, and both are highly reliable systems,(just as reliable and actually IMO more robust then HK piston system on the mr556), it is just two different ways to get the same problem solved, neither is really better then the other just different. Lmao, I hate that when a reviewer says that, but I am literally looking at both guns now and I could not pick a clear winner over the other, I would feel supremely confident in my rifle, if the shtf today and I had to run out the door with either one.
wow i didnt know he had passed away. i just got my revolution .308 last Wednesday. its a blast to shoot. just waiting on the sandman l to get outta atf prison
I just purchased a brand new POF DI Revolution in .308, brought it home and fired two rounds with similar results. One round fired, the next round stuck in the chamber. I had to mortar the rifle to extract the stuck rounds. My $800 Palmetto State Armory runs great right out of the box, my $2,600 POF, not so much. I am calling the Tech Center tomorrow. Using PMC brass cased 150 grain new manufactured ammo.
Me too, I am Retired Army, 27-years, I was really excited about this rifle. I have owned several ARs in 5.56, 7.62, .300, and 6.5 Creedmore, never had an issue like this one before.
Just spoke with POF USA customer service and I am going to attempt to fix the issue by reaming the chamber with a standard bore cleaning brush as directed by Michael (POF USA customer service representative). He indicated that using a standard bore chamber brush will not negatively impact the nitraded barrel chamber and will open the tight chamber enough to prevent further jams. I will update when complete.
@GBGuns Now 3 years later, how did it do? Vault episode? I wonder if they can make a 5.56 upper that fits that lower and maybe an insert to hold the smaller mags. The only things holding me back is some had 4'' groups, some just torqued the top rail screws and have 1.2-1.5 inch groups and reloading .308 is a must at the ammo cost. Lots of people reload G3 ammo with the 12 chamber cuts, these have 4. They recommend factory match ammo, others say only very soft brass would be an issue to resize. You'd really help me out making a decision. Saw the POF guys at IWA thinking to import one.
Graham Baates Outstanding!! I ask because I’m in the process of building my first Ar and I’m doing my homework for a future muzzle break. However not much on this break anywhere. Thank you brother!!
No problem. I think we may have touched on it in the first Shooting Impressions video. It's very loud, but it works well. We have a couple of others we've thought about swapping on, but this one worked very well.
That's neat and all but I feel like the only person on earth that doesn't care for ARs. But, then again, I felt that way about Glocks and now I EDC a 19c every day.
I purchased one yesterday and awaiting good weather to zero the rifle. The lighter weight was very noticeable when handling the MP10 and a Sig 716i. I do believe all three are good but the salesman got me to drop $1300 more for this rifle. Once I can hit a range for the long distance shooting, I’ll hopefully see why I dropped more money for this rifle.
You dropped more money because this is a unique and organic design and almost all parts are made by POF (I've visited the factory). Most other AR-10/SR-25 rifles are simply sourced parts of an already proven design with the brand of the day stamped on them. The POF Revolution costs a lot more to make.
@@GBGuns I looked for a range video but did not find. I’m going to look again for it but I’d like to thank you for saving me money and disappointment in purchasing a suppressor to utilize out west towards your state. I’m looking forward to viewing your past videos and will be notified of videos you submit/post. Again….. Thank you 🙏
@@GBGuns I’m so pleased with this rifle, I went back and purchased the POF Minuteman AR15. I’m awaiting delivery of optics but put a red dot on it to shoot it over the weekend. It ran flawlessly as did my Revolution after about 300 plus rounds.
Frank was a genius!! Also your continued misuse of the term "length of pull" is irritating and probably cofusing to new shooters....otherwise an excellent video....
No, we don't reload because almost all of our shooting is for media purposes, using reloads would make our experiences unrepeatable by you. As far as how certain loads work in certain guns you'll need to see our Shooting Impressions videos. We typically group at elast five different loads in each rifle, ten loads in pistols.
@@GBGuns I really appreciate your response. I have the POF AR15 .308 and just love shooting it. Do you recommend any factory ammo and grain weight that shoots well in your POF AR15 .308? Thanks again.
Where is the range review? I’ve seen Alabama’s review. I seen iraqveteran8888 meltdown video for the upper 416 edge. Love the POF. I just want to see how much in love you are with it lol
@@sangphan09 I still love what this rifle represents, and ours functions fairly well, but doesn't have the accuracy I was expecting. I sent it back to POF who had it for six weeks. They returned it without explanation and included targets presumably shot by the rifle that were outstanding, but couldn't tell me what load it was or what they did to the rifle. It appears to have a new barrel, but I can't confirm as I didn't record the numbers on the old barrel before I sent it in. I've been to the range twice with 5 different loads each time and just can't get anything better than about 1.5" out of it. It seems they replaced the barrel, and I don't want to blame POF, but I can't seem to get the performance out of it shown by so many. By the time I made the last range trip ammo had become so expensive and hard to find that I don't dare shoot it much, especially to struggle with it.
@@GBGuns yeah...... I have two of the rifles. Renegade in 7.62x39. And the P415 Edge. The edge runs flawlessly as expected. As far as the renegade....... I’ve only put 40 rounds through it. 20 wolf steel ammo(suppressed) 20 brass non suppressed. No malfunctions. But, not enough ammo through it to say it’s a flawless one. Lots of people on RUclips and on forums have issues with AR15 chambered in 7.62x39. I don’t want to jinx it. But I’m a lucky one!!!
The intent behind the development of this gun was to provide 308 power in a platform the same size as an AR15. These receivers are the same length pin to pin as an AR 15. Additionally this is a piston system which keeps the gun cooler and cleaner and makes for less gas in the face when shooting suppressed.
@@GBGuns not sure about the whole piston design. Your gun wont run cleaner, you will simply have carbon deposits in another place to clean instead of the bolt area. I think cleaning a d.i. gun is way easier than cleaning a piston gun personally, but thats just me. Piston guns are overly expensive as well but again, thats just me. Still a cool gun! It is 3/4 of an inch shorter, and weighs several ounces lighter than an ar-10 i guess.
The Stag 10 S is an incredible AR10. I honestly don't think the Revolution fits in the same category. Not really an AR15 or an AR10 and has a different operating system.
I will never buy another pof after purchasing my p308, the gun developed a failure to feed issue, I couldn't even go through a clip with out an issue. I emailed them for help, got no response. Had to take it to a gun Smith for help. I ordered several of their proprietary rail segments for the pof, one package came with two different sized screws 😡 My PWS MK 216 GEN 1 consistently out performs the pof, it cost less, and it goes pew pew every time I pull the trigger. I would take my PWS to hell and back! I'm working on a deal right now to trade my pof for a Styer scout.
Frank was an innovator and a good guy. Had been to the old shop a couple of times. Frank will be missed.
What happend to Frank?
@@Язепс Frank died following a traffic accident on June 18, 2020, in north Phoenix. According to an initial news report he took evasive action (he swerved) to avoid a collision with someone who had turned in front of him. The other driver left the scene, and as of that report remained unknown. I suggest doing a search for "In Loving Memory of Frank DeSomma POF-USA." This 8 1/2 minute tribute of still photos is so very extra special.
@@larrywhited3070I heard, saluted his memory, and ask that God rest his soul, and poured a beer to flames for him
He actually was the American Mikael Kalashnikov
I too was VERY upset when I heard our brother passed away! He was a HUGE 2A advocate and truly changed the game in so many ways! I have never had a chance to pick up one of his creations, but I think I will have to make it happen very soon! Thanks 4 the video...
With knowing nothing about Patriot Ordnance Factory and strictly on the recommendation of a trusted gun shop owner I ordered the Revolution Piston model exactly as shown in this video. (A Direct Impingement model is now also available.) This was just 2 weeks before the traffic accident that took Frank on June 18th, 2020. I received the rifle on June 19th, one day after Frank died.
At the time I knew nothing about Frank DeSomma, knew nothing about the accident. It was a sad time to have learned shortly thereafter of his passing. Frank truly was rightfully proud of his work. He was an uncompromising patriot, and he was uncompromising in his attention to quality and detail. How fortunate I am to have one of his excellent rifles. I wish I could have met him.
I had a few chances to spend time with him. He was a fiery character, the type that the industry needs.
@@GBGuns Thanks for the feedback. From what I've been able to tell Frank was also the type of man that the country needs. By the way, I should have thanked you for producing this fine video. I very much appreciated your step-by-step review. While I've always been familiar with firearms (starting at age 6 with a Marlin .22) I never sought to become an expert, so it helps to follow the reasoning of others with more experience.
I just put a order in for a 12.5" piston revolution two days ago, they were sold out of the specific model I wanted, it will be my 4th POF USA rifle, I absolutely love POF and am kinda a nerdy fanboy!! Great video sir!!!
R.I.P. Frank desomma! The Revolution is my dream battle rifle!! Great review brother!
Wait, he.. how did he pass?
@@Язепс car accident.... may he Rest In Peace
POF is one of the rifles I'm considering.
Well done. Makes me want one. Maybe, get to shoot one one day!! Thanks for doing that and may your friend Frank rest in peace knowing people like you are appreciative of his work.
Congratulations on receiving such a fine blaster. I first heard about this gun from Carl's video on InRange TV. I think he has the DI version but not certain. I love the ingenuity behind it.
I have the POF REVOLUTION in the DI version and its a GREAT rifle!!!!
My next AR. Huge fan of these.
I never understood the price tag tell I saw this video. I was wanting a 338 Lapua but after this vid my money is likely going to be used to get one of these engineering masterpieces
Your making me giddy. I just bought a burnt bronze 16.5” pof Revolution DI .308 last night. The grey is very nice. Adding a primary arms GLx4 2.5-10x44mm ACSS Raptor M2 with offset he508t elite, atlas bipod, modlight PLHv2/Reptilia body/DS00 tail cap & unity tactical hot button rail mount I’m fde, along with new bcm grip, bcm Sopmod stock& swapping a 3.5lb pof flat 2-Stage trigger & DeadAir muzzle break for when sandman is out of nfa jail.
Congrats on the acquisition. I’m a bit excited about getting mine in if can’t tell. Lol. As been waiting couple years for this one.
Nice I ordered a black 12.5" piston revolution two days ago, I am ALSO pretty excited. The burnt bronze is pretty good looking gun! I own a p415 10.5" with the gray finish like on the rifle in the video, and it looks even better in person. ....you have good taste sir!!
Amazing engineering from a great man. He will be missed.,
That really is a fine firearm. Looking forward to a range day video. R.I.P Frank and thank you for your passion on making the finest ARs.🙏🙏
I was wrong, the cerakote threw me off. I wasnt aware you could get a Revolution in Tungsten. The Revolution is my next POF. Frank made some amazing firearms.
p.s. I was the idiot that thought you had a P308 Edge SPR.
I’m looking at either the piston or the DI Revolution
I have had a Revolution for three years now. Love that gun. Great video!
Still running solid?
@@GBGuns without issue. Thousand plus rounds, still as accurate as it was on day one. Only issue I have had was a charging handle broke in two. Looked to be defective one, POF sent me a new one, free of charge.
I'm sold! Just found these guys and with all the features and technology packed in it seems worth the money for a long distance range gun! 👐🏾
Very good video. I am fortunate enough to own one in burnt bronze and I absolutely love it.
Extremely low maintenance, very, very accurate, dependable, a simply work of art.
I also use this gun for hunting and I couldn’t be happier.
For accuracy target shooting I use the Federal Gold Medal Sierra Match in 168 gr. Sub Moa all day long at 100 to 150 yards. I have not shot it at longer range, and I cannot wait to try and see what it can do, but something tells me that it will be capable as well.
Graham’s *so* excited, way to go Teya! 😁👍🏽
Thank You. Great review I’ve gotta find somewhere near me to get my hands on one.
Yes you are a lucky guy ... first!
We love TactiKitty!!
Very nice Graham.
Glad you have it. Looks great and very innovative.
Seems like an excellent alternative to an HK 416
“Ha” full auto Wolf steel ammo, love me some steel ammo and love piston driven rifles that eat steel for breakfast! Great video!
Structured piece of art.🇱🇷👍☕😎
Awesome review, I can see why the anti walk pins are not in the same position as an AR.
I have been wanting this rifle for a long time. I enjoy my Renegade +.
Just bought one today!!! Can’t wait to try it out!
Whew! That is sweet! Lots of nice trick additions! Teya is spoiling you rotten! Lol
I got a new POF revolution 20" cmr, I have many other ar's and you can just tell the pof is definetly a cut above your average ar and even above average ar's the materials used are better, the fit and finish is better, the quality of everything is better, once u take it apart and hold it side by side with your other rifles you will see pof is clearly a cut above. Now that said I actually have a few ar's that are a cut above. Nemo arms is clearly a cut above, lwrc m6 ic a5 is clearly a cut above, and pof is clearly a cut above
I just picked this up on Sunday 5/23/21!! Putting a Vortex Gen III 1-10x24 and Magpul BiPod on it.
This is the exact set up I’m wanting…. How do you like it?
What a beauty! Thanks for that.
My POF is insane tight too. What helps with the pins, is press the upper and lower against each other a little while pushing the pin out. makes it easy
They also have little nylon hex screws in the top edge of the lower, towards the rear for adjusting the fit
Next POF project: AR-10 chambered in 20mm w/a missile launcher attachment! Weighing in at just 11lbs 3 oz.
POF engineers are beasts!
Lol
Another excellent in-depth review by G.B. Thanks.
I bought the DI version of this and it's my go to. Power, decent accuracy, superior quality, reliability... what else can I ask for? That said, make sure you give it good ammunition. That'll cost you, but I've found that it WILL malfunction with cheap ammo.
Incredible! Can’t wait to see what it eats for “dinner.”
R.I.P FRANK, Rifle Is Perfect!!!!
That thing is bad ass. Unfortunately its outside of my budget. Been keeping my ear to the ground for a used one but people tend to not want to sell
And, I'd bet they probably keep their resale value too.
Also, My P415 Edge came with a nickel plated carrier and nitride bolt like yours. but the site says it should all be nickel. When I contacted them about it, they told me some rifles produced in 2020, due to supplier issues. They had to ship with black nitride bolts. If you contact them and send them your bolt, they'll replace it free with the proper nickel one
Nice! I'd maybe even ditch my SCAR 17 for one of those.
I think you'd enjoy this more than that anchor of a gun.
@@GBGuns - Ha. IDK if I'd characterize it as an anchor - at 8 lbs it's fairly light for a 308. I expect it's chunkier than the Revolution, though. And, SCAR mags are $30+, and the Timney trigger was pretty much a mandatory upgrade. One plus the SCAR would have is the fully folding buttstock, but that's not usually a big deal.
Ah yes, who doesn't like the ugly, ugg boot looking stock. < sarcasm
Now that you got your hands on a POF you need to get your hands on an LWRC to compare.
I own both, and they are both very nice guns. I would not say one is better then the other just different. The POF definitely has some innovation on it that that LWRC does not come with, the heat sink barrel nut, e2 chamber, the gas blocks are alittle more tunable on higher end the POF rifles, but lwrc has a tighter fitting reciever group, I like lwrc piston system a miniscule amount better but that's OPINION, and truthfully if you asked me tomorrow I might tell you POF has the better piston system, both systems work very well, and both are highly reliable systems,(just as reliable and actually IMO more robust then HK piston system on the mr556), it is just two different ways to get the same problem solved, neither is really better then the other just different. Lmao, I hate that when a reviewer says that, but I am literally looking at both guns now and I could not pick a clear winner over the other, I would feel supremely confident in my rifle, if the shtf today and I had to run out the door with either one.
@Charlie Charlie wow three year olds are watching gun videos on RUclips. Crazy.
I own both. Not even compatible. Revolution is the winner all day even against my scar. It’s in the name revolution
Great rifles
For the joy of my spectation of this video is with the claim of a like with the style by that video's-intro.
Frank was the Elon Musk of firearms!
I have a Diamondback DB15 in 7.62x39 and she's beautiful and shoots outstanding !
Very Nice !👍
wow i didnt know he had passed away. i just got my revolution .308 last Wednesday. its a blast to shoot. just waiting on the sandman l to get outta atf prison
I just purchased a brand new POF DI Revolution in .308, brought it home and fired two rounds with similar results. One round fired, the next round stuck in the chamber. I had to mortar the rifle to extract the stuck rounds. My $800 Palmetto State Armory runs great right out of the box, my $2,600 POF, not so much. I am calling the Tech Center tomorrow. Using PMC brass cased 150 grain new manufactured ammo.
Sorry to hear about that. I hope they fix yours
Me too, I am Retired Army, 27-years, I was really excited about this rifle. I have owned several ARs in 5.56, 7.62, .300, and 6.5 Creedmore, never had an issue like this one before.
Just spoke with POF USA customer service and I am going to attempt to fix the issue by reaming the chamber with a standard bore cleaning brush as directed by Michael (POF USA customer service representative). He indicated that using a standard bore chamber brush will not negatively impact the nitraded barrel chamber and will open the tight chamber enough to prevent further jams. I will update when complete.
@@michaelfuller2378 interesting
Cool gun! Wonderful NEW design. But... you can't just build one these at home. Or can you get parts easily years from now?
You can order parts separately. Last year I build my own fancy gun using a variety of POF parts, we have a video and article on it.
If you could see me, my envy would be showing!
I just bought the POF ROUGE.308 and saved for some windsheild wipers for my bucket of a car
Understood. We went for the Revolution because it was Frank's original dream.
@GBGuns
Now 3 years later, how did it do? Vault episode?
I wonder if they can make a 5.56 upper that fits that lower and maybe an insert to hold the smaller mags. The only things holding me back is some had 4'' groups, some just torqued the top rail screws and have 1.2-1.5 inch groups and reloading .308 is a must at the ammo cost. Lots of people reload G3 ammo with the 12 chamber cuts, these have 4. They recommend factory match ammo, others say only very soft brass would be an issue to resize.
You'd really help me out making a decision. Saw the POF guys at IWA thinking to import one.
Vault episode is coming. Oddly 308 has been cheaper than 5.56 at times here in the US
I’m sold on getting one leaning toward the piston or should I go di.....I wanna do it right the first time.....I’ll take opinions 🙏
Pistons all day, every day... M1, M14/M1A, MINI 14, POF 415, POF REVOLUTION. Much less cleaning, less gas to your face
Great video sir!! What do you all on the thread think about their 3 port muzzle break? Not a lot of videos or reviews on it.
It certainly feels effective. We're waiting for he rifle to come back from the shop before more filming, but we've got a lot more planned.
Graham Baates Outstanding!! I ask because I’m in the process of building my first Ar and I’m doing my homework for a future muzzle break. However not much on this break anywhere. Thank you brother!!
No problem. I think we may have touched on it in the first Shooting Impressions video. It's very loud, but it works well. We have a couple of others we've thought about swapping on, but this one worked very well.
That's neat and all but I feel like the only person on earth that doesn't care for ARs. But, then again, I felt that way about Glocks and now I EDC a 19c every day.
and this is far from your average AR
I was issued an M16A1 in 1969. Never liked it, never liked ARs until I saw the piston POF 415 and POF REVOLUTION. Frank DeSomma perfected the AR
I purchased one yesterday and awaiting good weather to zero the rifle. The lighter weight was very noticeable when handling the MP10 and a Sig 716i. I do believe all three are good but the salesman got me to drop $1300 more for this rifle. Once I can hit a range for the long distance shooting, I’ll hopefully see why I dropped more money for this rifle.
You dropped more money because this is a unique and organic design and almost all parts are made by POF (I've visited the factory). Most other AR-10/SR-25 rifles are simply sourced parts of an already proven design with the brand of the day stamped on them. The POF Revolution costs a lot more to make.
@@GBGuns I looked for a range video but did not find. I’m going to look again for it but I’d like to thank you for saving me money and disappointment in purchasing a suppressor to utilize out west towards your state. I’m looking forward to viewing your past videos and will be notified of videos you submit/post. Again….. Thank you 🙏
@@GBGuns I’m so pleased with this rifle, I went back and purchased the POF Minuteman AR15. I’m awaiting delivery of optics but put a red dot on it to shoot it over the weekend. It ran flawlessly as did my Revolution after about 300 plus rounds.
@@anthonybrown2426 awesome
Frank was a genius!! Also your continued misuse of the term "length of pull" is irritating and probably cofusing to new shooters....otherwise an excellent video....
How would this compare to the Marine Corps IAR for the same role?
I just wish mine would run cheaper Ammo. It only like the match grade
Do you reload your own cartridges? What weight bullets do you recommend? What factory ammo has worked best for your AR15 .308?
No, we don't reload because almost all of our shooting is for media purposes, using reloads would make our experiences unrepeatable by you. As far as how certain loads work in certain guns you'll need to see our Shooting Impressions videos. We typically group at elast five different loads in each rifle, ten loads in pistols.
@@GBGuns I really appreciate your response. I have the POF AR15 .308 and just love shooting it. Do you recommend any factory ammo and grain weight that shoots well in your POF AR15 .308? Thanks again.
Where is the range review? I’ve seen Alabama’s review. I seen iraqveteran8888 meltdown video for the upper 416 edge. Love the POF. I just want to see how much in love you are with it lol
It's out, and not very good. This rifle has problems. The scary part is unlike IV888's this gun was purchased from a shop
@@GBGuns I’m sad to hear that. I was thinking about buying it in 6.5...... thanks for the response and content.
@@sangphan09 I still love what this rifle represents, and ours functions fairly well, but doesn't have the accuracy I was expecting. I sent it back to POF who had it for six weeks. They returned it without explanation and included targets presumably shot by the rifle that were outstanding, but couldn't tell me what load it was or what they did to the rifle. It appears to have a new barrel, but I can't confirm as I didn't record the numbers on the old barrel before I sent it in. I've been to the range twice with 5 different loads each time and just can't get anything better than about 1.5" out of it. It seems they replaced the barrel, and I don't want to blame POF, but I can't seem to get the performance out of it shown by so many. By the time I made the last range trip ammo had become so expensive and hard to find that I don't dare shoot it much, especially to struggle with it.
@@GBGuns yeah...... I have two of the rifles. Renegade in 7.62x39. And the P415 Edge. The edge runs flawlessly as expected. As far as the renegade.......
I’ve only put 40 rounds through it. 20 wolf steel ammo(suppressed) 20 brass non suppressed. No malfunctions. But, not enough ammo through it to say it’s a flawless one. Lots of people on RUclips and on forums have issues with AR15 chambered in 7.62x39. I don’t want to jinx it. But I’m a lucky one!!!
@@GBGuns WAS IT RELIABLE
You mentioned AR15 stock. Do they make AR10 stock?
I suppose you could call it one if you wanted to. The tube diameter and size is the same on this gun though.
Where can I order one
Cool idea, but why not just buy an ar-10 if you want to shoot .308?
The intent behind the development of this gun was to provide 308 power in a platform the same size as an AR15. These receivers are the same length pin to pin as an AR 15. Additionally this is a piston system which keeps the gun cooler and cleaner and makes for less gas in the face when shooting suppressed.
@@GBGuns not sure about the whole piston design. Your gun wont run cleaner, you will simply have carbon deposits in another place to clean instead of the bolt area. I think cleaning a d.i. gun is way easier than cleaning a piston gun personally, but thats just me. Piston guns are overly expensive as well but again, thats just me. Still a cool gun! It is 3/4 of an inch shorter, and weighs several ounces lighter than an ar-10 i guess.
If you want to see one in action look at Keith Garcia on IG.
So POF Revolution or Stag 10 S ?!?
The Stag 10 S is an incredible AR10. I honestly don't think the Revolution fits in the same category. Not really an AR15 or an AR10 and has a different operating system.
The Stag.
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RUclips does that sometimes, try reloading the page or restarting your browser
I will never buy another pof after purchasing my p308, the gun developed a failure to feed issue, I couldn't even go through a clip with out an issue. I emailed them for help, got no response. Had to take it to a gun Smith for help. I ordered several of their proprietary rail segments for the pof, one package came with two different sized screws 😡 My PWS MK 216 GEN 1 consistently out performs the pof, it cost less, and it goes pew pew every time I pull the trigger. I would take my PWS to hell and back! I'm working on a deal right now to trade my pof for a Styer scout.
@Tacticool Mustache you mean like sports illustrated?
@Tacticool Mustache I got the latest swimsuit issue, I'll try dat one!
@Tacticool Mustache To late...
Its'a "smathering" of parts regardless of who made them.
It's ugly.
Your sister is ugly