When All Your Creatures Become Food ... (Bloomburrow) | Commander Clash S16 E29
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Since a lot of people have brought it up in the comments, Crim's been traveling the last couple of weeks (he's currently at Gencon) and couldn't record so Tomer's filling in for him this week and next week to finish up season 16. Didn't have anything to do with his sea creature deck. Killing him first that game was punishment enough.
Next time Crim is back he is 100% gonna play another troll deck that breaks the deck building rules just to get the comments mad again (edit: I hope he does!)
So everyone online is collectively just a hater, I guess.
There’s not years of evidence of people not liking crims actions
@@plaidpoet "everyone" is crazy - speak for yourself. I think Crim is great on clash🤷♂ . It's ok to cast counterspell killa
“C is for creature. . . That’s good enough for me.”
😂 common sentiment among all the blue monsters.
I like the idea of him having to say Clash On by himself when he comes back.
“I should’ve killed Richard.” - Seth, 2024
Yes, that is how every commander clash should go.
That quote is timeless
I haven't been watching very long, but it seems like Richard should be the target
This is the first time Tomer has been on the new season and playing IRL! Welcome to the real world Tomer!
Kinda sucks Richard shut him down for no reason
Because @theasianavenger is grounded!
wish it would stop, shitty webcams do not equal MTGO. now they are just like every other barely readable commander channel
@@benrodir2 they aren't equal they are better than mtgo :)
“Welcome to the real world” no words have been truer after Richard freaking Notion thief’s him😭
Academy Manufactor's replacement ability does not happen when creating creature tokens with Ygra on the battlefield. You are not creating a food token, the creature token only becomes a food once it's in play.
Makes sense.
Answering to boost this comment
Specifically, a "Food token" refers to the specific type of game object and not just a token that happens to have the food type.
@@midn8588Kinda. If you copy a Parcel Myr with an Academy Manufacturer in play, it sees a clue token being made and replaces it with a default clue + treasure + food
@@midn8588 Actually, funnily enough, depending on context it can mean either, a Token Food or the predefined token, and in Academy Manufactor's place it actually means both depending on context. Essentially it reads "If you would create a [token that has one of the subtypes] instead you create [one of each predefined token]." See Judging FTW's making a token copy of Goldhound video.
Richard: You should never play basics!
Also Richard: Gets mana scewed by non-basic colorless, EtB tapped lands.
Also Richard: literally wins the actual game you’re “dunking” on him for because of his mana base. You people are actually shameless
@@light-chemistry The metric was getting mana screwed. Richard was mana screwed in the early to mid-game as Richard himself acknowledged in the episode. Winning the game doesn't negate that. He won in spite of the mana base.
This isn't the first time someone won a game of commander despite stumbling on mana in the first few turns.
@@imaginarymatter Every mana base can mana screw you. Not every mana base can win you the game. He didn't win "in spite of the mana base" he literally won because of Mystic Sanctuary, which he warps all of his blue mana bases around. But sure, be fair, I guess you're going to hate basics because Tomer got flooded in the same game with his "perfect" mana base?
@@imaginarymatter i have no idea how your comment managed to piss this guy off so much haha
@@Weckacore I think that dude just trolls comments on the channel
Finally they gave tomer a good "CLASH ON" so proud
Crim actively sabotages their Clash Ons
Seriously loved this!
I feel like the best part of Tomer saying "it will not end well for you" to Phil when Phil was considering messing with Seth's card draw was it didn't sound like a threat from Tomer as much as it was a warning about how Seth will throw his own game to get revenge on someone that messes with his card draw
TOMER! You've been missed, man! So glad to see you on a Commander Clash 😊
The decklists posted are the OTJ ones. 😁
Been looking forward to this one since Tomer mentioned his Flubs deck!
Also Phil's deck is not what's in the article
Here ya go! www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/we-play-bloomburrow-commander-clash-s15-e29
@@MTGGoldfishCommander phils deck is the wrong one
@@MTGGoldfishCommander Jesus, these decks are pushing a thousand dollars! Can yall please make content geared towards the base pre-con decks with a budget of just 50 dollars of upgrades instead of cobbling pay to win decks together in the 600 - 900 dollar range?
Richard’s superpower as always is to play nothing to the board the whole game and still stay at 40 life
His superpower is playing lands that only allow him to play cards 7 turns in, and by that time people think he won't do anything, even though he's expended zero resources
Late game plays are very effective, I did start to lean way more into that as well.
Sorting back in the corner and doing nothing is OP in casual edh
No shade to Richard but I would describe his style of play as “abusing the social contract of commander”, fair play tho and there are worse ways to play
@@lesternomo6578yeah it’s also just abusing the fact playing aggro is frowned upon. If he had a infect deck in his meta his takes would be so different because his decks get annihilated by voltron and infect
Maybe I’m wrong but it seems like ever since the crew moved to paper, games have in general been a lot shorter in turn count. I’m sure many here can think of quite a few reasons why, but I think it could be an interesting topic of discussion for a future show!
That sounds like a super interesting podcast!
Tomers super enthusiastic 'CLASH ON' cured my depression 😭💕💕
Boy was I looking forward to how badly Seth was gonna pronounce ygra. I was not disappointed lol
At least he didn’t introduce himself as “better known as”.. cringe. Love him tho.
Really appreciated Seth asking Tomer how he felt about Flubs. Hearing the deck builder for a super unique commander make a case for their deck after it stumbles is great. In Arena, my Infamous Catclaw got absolutely dunked on by a Flubs deck which just exploded in a single turn. Scute Swarm into a bajillion lands. Drawing so many cards from just a fetch and Ramunap Excavator. I'm gonna build my own version soon.
I love how Richard poops on Bojuka Bog for being only ocasionally good but runs Mystic Sanctuary in the most islandless blue decks I've ever seen.
Mystic Sanctuary won him this game
@@light-chemistrysmall sample bias. This is where 90% of Richard’s bad takes come from.
@@light-chemistry that's my point. This season we saw how many times mystic sanctuary was tapped Island. This time it won the game but just barely, since he only had 3 other islands in play. While he complains that bojuka is just tapped swamp most of the time, he runs a card that is most of the time tapped island, but that "won this game". Bojuka is similar. It's tapped swamp most of the time, but when is good, it is game winning kindof good.
@@terraqueo89 @peewee0224 firstly this is cope because mystic sanctuary won him another game literally 2 episodes ago 🤣. And comparing sanctuary to bog is insane, it's like saying sol ring and worn powerstone are similar! The floor for both cards is basically "tapped land", but the ceiling for bog is *sorcery speed* graveyard hate, which is just not that strong! The ceiling on mystic sanctuary is waaay higher it's literally being able to get your best instant/sorcery card back from your graveyard, at instant speed, because it is fetchable. like it's not even close
@@peewee0224 hhaahaha he won another game with it two episodes ago? But sure "small sample bias". Bog is mediocre.
Awesome to see the mountain I gave you Phil in the game! Love the content and its cool to have added to it.
Thanks again! They are gorgeous 🤩
They exiled crim because he probably would have found some roundabout way to play a MH3 commander
I think a thing to consider when playing Flubs is just taking aggressive mulligans is a lot more rewarding; starting card count is less important than the specific cards themselves as you *want* to run out so you can pop off.
Yes, I mulled to 6 but probably should've went lower.
@@tomerabramovici32 Thanks for the reply Tomer. I can't claim to really know what your hand was like so not meaning to call you out but more of a tip to people who may not have realised this. Hope your Flubs deck can do more stormy shenanigans in the future.
Phil, thought you would love to know I think you look a decent bit like Léon Marchand, the French Olympic swimmer.
I thought about him too, when I saw Marchand as well
Seth tweeted about it the other day hahaha
Yeah it's actually a little weird to see how similar he looks in some pictures 🤣
@@BrewersKitchenis that how you afford all those old border lands? Secret Olympic side hustle?
I cannot believe that Seth never gave his OHKO commander shadow???
Im upset, Richard didnt play Kastral, the wind crested 😢
I hate this meme but it’s just so fitting so here goes:
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
@ricepresidents I typed a meme? Lol, I was just acknowledging his love for birds and well mine too.
@@rowdyruu8275 No, I typed a meme :)
Tomer is back. Crim fired for his "C" monster shenanigans 🐙
We need a full season with this lineup. I swear Phil and Tomer are never in the rotation together.
Tomer rocking Urza's Saga basics. A man of culture.
I only play basic lands from either Urza’s Saga, Mirage or Ice Age.
I buy in bulk. 😂
This was one of my favorite Commander Clash games by far!
I was looking forward to Tomers complaints about shuffling :)
Hey seth I think you should have been gaining counters whenever someone else's creature died like notiontheif. Love the content 👌
yup. that's how it works.
"Whenever a Food is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, put two +1/+1 counters on Ygra, Eater of All."
at some point stuff was getting exiled which turns it off ofc, but I wasn't really counting counters. if Ygra was supposed to be much bigger though then that game maybe ends very differently since it becomes relevant to slap shadow on it and then just start killing people immediately.
34:35 He went from 14 to 16 just after it, actually watch the video
@burnsboy101 mb I was tired I must have missed it
I think I added the counter, I just didn't say it (which was my fault, I'll try to make sure I say it out loud next time so it's clearer).
The Tomer voice is actually the voice for this commander frog for me ahah
So glad to see someone using Library of Leng with Flubs. Those two were made for each other.
Welcome back our favorite basic enthusiast.
I think tomer needs to find a Kermit the frog alter for flubs!
Phil plays 2 lands on his big recovery turn at 37:00. Even makes a whole big deal about his special mountain at the beginning of the turn
Phil’s decklist is wrong in the article. I wanted to see that Zinnia list 😢
Here are all this week's decklists: www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/we-play-bloomburrow-commander-clash-s15-e29
@@MTGGoldfishCommanderthey’re still the wrong decks
@@MrJacko89 Sorry, should be fixed. Here's a direct link: www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6523941#paper
@@MTGGoldfishCommanderthank you😁
@@GoldenSpartan007 Have fun paying a thousand dollars to put that deck together.
Richard needs to be attacked early. Every week he takes the first 5 turns off and never gets punished for it. Is there a reason no one goes for him early? Is everyone just distracted by the other permanants the other players are playing?
That is because they are playing casually to win and not playing aggressively to make their opponents lose. They have mentioned how the do not want to make someone sit there for a long time dead watching others play. They are playing bound to the "cannot cause any feel bad moments" social contract. Players like Richard who play passively then pop later and heavy ramp players benefit the most from this.
@@akihitokoizumi2474 This happens in my playgroup as well. By those rules, the way Richard slow rolls becomes the ONLY strategy.
Right? They really need more aggro in their playgroup
For some reason I can't quite explain I feel like Richard is somehow abusing a loophole with no one is allowed to die early, and as a result playing the greediest piles of all time. Super durdly and do-nothing until all the sudden he just wins
@@chickenwyngs3646 THIS 💯
Did richard miss a discard after he played the guildless commons?
Now we dont have hand info like we had on mtgo which was very helpful
Yeeessss!! I’ve been looking for some Flubs gameplay!! I’m tryna build him and I need to see how he works
Hahaha uh oh
Tomer is back to immediately play storm again
SURE.....Crim is on "Vacation" after last Commander Clash's shenanigans LOL
Honestly surprised Phil didn’t play Baylen: green and/or tokens is like half of his decks at least 😅
He mentioned it, but was afraid it would be too overpowered and combo-y to lead to a fun game.
Probably wise Baylen seems unnecessarily busted honestly
It seemed a little to "Combo or Bust" for Commander Clash 🤣
Really happy to see tomer again in a Commander Clash. I like the Crew but i really love to see Tomer play and also his budget decks :)
This vid deserves more likes for Tomer being in it.
People are saying that Richard should have been attacked earlier, but it should be pointed out that Phil had a really fast start and took the initiative, both making him a bigger threat and also making it less likely that he would free up blockers to attack Richard with.
Phil, I playn to build Zinnia as a Golem type Deck to make baby Golems, so I am also not so pure.
I clicked the article to see what program yall are using to play but I couldn't find where it said that! Can you drop the deets on this crisp gameplay please?
they are using garbage webcams, used to be awesome MTGO
@@benrodir2 ....
Phil, of course youre playing agent of treachery, i would expect nothing else from you. ROFL
This bloomburrow set is full of aggressively statted low-cost threats and great tempo cards! I can't wait to see what aggressive creature-oriented deck Tomer's brought to finally prove to Seth and Richard that tempo is a viable archetype against the Fog Ramp meta! :D
Notion Thief against Flubs is PEAK haterade
I feel like flubs has SO much potential and deserves to be on a revenge week. The draws were not generous and that froggy Boi needs his time to shine!
Not gonna lie, was hoping for a match with the precons 😢
same.
This meta really suffers from lack of aggressive decks I feel...
YO TOMER IS BACK !!!
Tomer, you need to play more suspend and foretell cards. You'll empty your hand for cheap and not have to discard spells you can use.
Oooh. This is a good idea. Suspend, foretell, manifest, and morph cards.
Really debating putting Flubs in my Loot deck. Its all about Slime Against Humanity lol
Phil not playing green, still ramping and creating value as he would play Simic.
Flubs may be the card to encourage me to dip my toe outside of precons 😁
How did I never realize Zinnia was a story that brought babies
Seth constantly mispronouncing ygra and calling it a tiger was driving me nuts lol
Legit same. Getting an animal’s name wrong irrationally irritates me.
I think Richard is sleeping on cosmium confluence as one of the best ramp spells in commander. You can search out three caves--imagine searching out planar nexus, sunken citadel, and urza's cave. The urza's cave can search for urza's tower, while sunken citadel makes the urza's cave. And, you can have forgotten monument in the deck to help your caves fix for mana, and sunken palace and echoing deep are also caves... I think richard naturally plays enough caves for this--three land ramp for 5? OH, and you can destroy enchantments or artifacts instead if the caves are already gone from your deck...
Notion thief is such a un-fun card for casual pods lol , playing that into empty handed flubs seems super anti-fun. Almost like that now banned angel into a mono colored deck , rough.
Seeing cards played in person is so nice compared to mtgo imo much more visually appealing and digestible as a casual viewer.
I really don't think Flubs suscks. Flubs requires crazy piloting skills and careful deckbuilding. I think Tomer was more excited to play the extra land with it than anything :D
Seth being so thirsty for the initiative but not using his shadowland amuses me
Am I the only one disappointed by the lack of Fur Suits, or even just a critter pajama onesie?
That mana tracker Phil has is sick... I need to get one
WHERE THE FUCK DID PHIL GET THAT AWESOME MANA TOKEN THING? I COULD USE A FEW OF THOSE. THAT IS LIFE CHANGING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shout out to seth for the DOOM reference
Damn. Now I want to alt Ygra to Tony the Tiger and make cereal tokens...
This is the Apex clash squad.
32:58 Tomer channeling his inner Lemongrab.
Tomer, with 2 combo pieces on the battlefield: there is no combo in the deck.
Flubbs is literally a storm commander…
Isn't Song of Creation a nonbo with Flubbs? If you have 1 card in hand you draw 3 but then you have 3 in hand and whenever you play a spell, you draw 2 and discard 1
fun fact, you can Eldritch evolution flubs to find kiki jiki...
Would have loved to see them play Clement, Mr. Foxglove, The Infamous Cruelclaw, and Glarb, Calamity's Augur
I think trader + yagra + confectioner is infinite life and mana because you can sac the foodrats to themselves for life with the treasures and go 3 life for 2 treasures
Jioooooo Tomer´s shirt is such a flex
i need a week where tomer builds all the mana bases
So much fun.
the decklists are linked to the thunder junction lists.
I’m sad that Ygra didn’t get to combo off. There are so many combos one can do with Ygra.
I ALWAYS cut Temple of the False God. It’s hosed me more times than it’s payed off in my experience, especially outside of land-ramp decks.
It's the other way around for me, I play it a lot and I think I can count the times it wasn't online for a turn or two on one hand 🙂
To solve my lack of offspring tokens I decided to buy a bag of 100 tiny rubber baby’s. I pay for offspring the critter gets a baby token on top 😂
@39 couldnt phil just flesh duplicate vren and make his own army of rats to crack back with?
Vren only makes rats when creatures are put into exile from play that turn. Vren need to be paired with removal/board wipes to do anything.
11:01 I feel so vindicated right now
What is the rule change regarding Pacts, here? 45:43
I'm wondering the same thing, cant find any recent news about Pacts on wotc website.
On this week of "Punt or Bluff" is it the Wind? or the Willows? Will Mr. Toad run doughnuts all over the crew or will Ratty win with house arrest! Tune-in to find out!
I think y’all should be playing pure Bloomburrow or whatever set it is rather than just a single commander.
They mention about they changed the way pacts work. What’s the change?
This changed a few years ago now, but in the past if you missed a Pact trigger (and drew your card for the turn other otherwise left your upkeep) you would just lose on the spot. The current rule is that missing a Pact trigger is a missed trigger and once your opponent points out that you missed it you can simply pay the mana for it (assuming the game hasn't progressed too far into the future) and keep going with a warning for missing a trigger.
how did this end up just being 2 different diagonal 1v1's
Like son like father.
I dont think Ygra makes academy manufactor work the way Seth says it does. They are food on stack so the ability doesnt get replaced.
That was a really short wrap up for only Tomer what about the rest of the table?
You know, I was tempted to build flubs for a fun rng deck. But that Notion Thief just murdered the deck entirely...
RUclips says you're playing Magic: the Gathering. From 1997.
Hey, can you please make another bloomburrow clash, with Maha and Eluge? Really want to see theese 2 perform
RICHARD MY GOAT
NOBODY MAKE FUN OF THE MYSTIC SANCTUARY AGAIN
@@Princeofseance He's vindicated, once again!
So glad I got to see Richard building dimir rats. Rats are my favourite tribe, and I'm glad I got to see it played in a way that wasn't the usual Crim dimir attempt at coming in second place.
The life gain ding noises have been making me think my fire alarm is beeping. Can we change this sound to something else?
Couldn't Ygra have commander damage killed Phil with a shadow counter once it had 18 power? I thought Phil had taken enough damage from it at that point.
Wouldn't Flubs have discard the song of creation fromt he land fetch. at 42:20
Flubs cares about when you PLAY lands, not lands entering. Cracking a fetchland does not trigger Flubs.
@@sashajelten Ty for the clairfication.
If I had a nickel for each time Seth played a Golgari legend trying to turn the opponent's creatures into food on the first episode of a new set I would have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but its weird that it happened twice
I was going to use that metaphor for every time I have heard "Should have killed Richard." He does the same thing just about every week and gets away with it lol.
What are the odds?
@@MTGGoldfishCommanderis it against the odds?
The dankest dungeon used Flubs in a recent game and it started to pop off so if you want to see another version
Isn't flub the best when you mulligan a bunch ?
Not really, you just need to play a low curve so you can empty your hand by the time you get Flubs down.