It is and it is not in same time. Phil is terrible with any effects that gives you anything "from top", cascade, discover, bridge, Nadu.. he bricks most of the time :D
What an impressive showing for Eldrazi. Who would have thought that stapling ancestral recall and making 2 copies of each of your 7 drops would be good. Coulda fooled me.
Yeah. I thought the colorless Eldrazi precon we got like a year or two back was really nice for the type, but oh man WoTC went nuts with MH3. Eldrazi went from a good type to quite possible the strongest tribal build in Commander, I think
I honestly miss the wrap up at the end of the games. The video ends a little bit abruptly and it was always interesting to hear about the decks and thoughts about the games IMO. Is there a reason these aren’t done anymore?
The videos were getting really long and the analytics showed that very few people actually watched the wrap ups (most people just turned off the video when the game ended), so we ended up cutting the wrap up segment. Are other people missing it too? It could potentially be brought back if its something you all want.
@@MTGGoldfish Well I think the wrap up doesn‘t really take anything away from the video, when it is at the end. People uninterested can just click away like you said. The episodes this season are shorter anyway, so an extra 5min shouldn‘t be an issue. But that‘s just my opinion. Other than that I‘ve really been enjoying this season, the editing‘s been great.
@@MTGGoldfishI also miss the wrap-ups at the end. It was especially nice when someone's deck doesn't get to do their thing so you can at least hear how it was supposed to work
I would also love the return of wrap ups! I think it highlights a very authentic side of the game, that being your own perception of how your deck played / how others’ worked against yours.
@Terminatornero Phil doesn't like to play good decks. Phil likes to play decks with high risk/high reward combos and little to no interaction. While this is cool to watch in Brewer's Kitchen, in an edh game with 3 highly interactive players, these type of combos either flop or they just rarely ever happen.
Phil hard punished for only having 33 actual lands in his landfall deck. Also I think he missed out by not running out Nadu earlier in both games. I know he was scared of removal, but it was clear at that point no one really had any. It's not the worst thing in the world if the bird gets targeted and removed because at least you get a trigger.
I don't know when Phil drew Aphetto Alchemist which he discarded but it's infinite looting with Unctus because it can untap itself over and over again. Also Phil could have attacked with the creatures he turned into blue artifacts to get a looting effect.
I think Ocelot Pride is strong, but the only reason it destroyed game 1 was the lack of removal. There was a single late attempt to wipe the board, and that's all. The Phil/Richard/Seth meta is hilariously degenerate.
@@QPat3000 I said the card is strong, and that remains true. However, that game had virtually no answers in it. I think Ocelot Pride is comparable to other powerful 1-drops like Ragavan, or Serra Ascendant. You could easily justify using a Swords to Plowshares on it, and nobody did that. It should have died in a wrath between turns 4 and 6, but the only wrath that was attempted got countered. Even small interactive synergies like "when X, deal 1 damage to a target" could have solved the problem, but nobody had those. Seth, Richard, and Phil have all taken this playstyle of little to no interaction, which is a good meta call when other players have plenty. When other players don't, nobody answers the 1-drop and you lose to a 1/1 Cat. To be fair to Richard in this episode, he really is playing an aggressive strategy, and he did successfully aggro down the table. His deck did what it was supposed to do, but it only accomplished that because of the failure of the other players. Tomer has been saying the same thing in the podcast episodes. Aggro beats value, value beats control, and control beats aggro.
@@ethanglaeser9239I think it's generally irresponsible to not run removal but the core of it is they're all playing massively different styles of games. Crim is almost always trying for a control slugfest, Richard has spiralled down a meta he thinks is present that he's 4d chess-ing, Seth is a value player itching to board wipe and Phil is playing casual battlecruiser. If they were more like each other we'd have no issues. Instead we have lame games where a player does nothing for 4 turns and is taken out as "the threat"
Correct. After resolution there will be a new round of priority. So you can can have your counter countered, but then as the stack resolves you can have another chance to interact before the stack clears.
Wow what a amazing game!! One of my fav episodes I've seen so far!! The power level and effiency of the new cards, thehy are insane!! Look how powerful that last turn was!!! Crazy game!!
How did no one view Richard as a threat early in the first game? He was playing ramps and threats at the same pace as Phil, but I guess everyone got blinded by Nadu
Because if the Nadu deck was optimized it could have won instantly at any given moment. They didn't know the decklist so it's best to assume the worst.
@@japplekthat’s because everyone fears “the combo” even though it really didn’t have much going on. Threat assessment is piss poor as usual. But it makes for watching some fun games I guess.
Politics/finger pointing/deflection are so important at the table & Seth/Crim/Richard are masters at it. Tomer gets picked on too for the same reason. Richard & Crim both had objectively worse boardstates & Phil needs to be able to point that out. Phil does play his hand too early sometimes as well as cards that beg to be removed quite often.
Couldn’t agree more , plus they talk over them with a lot with outrageous claims Probably my least favorite part of CC Still really like it but can’t wait for Crim week
Richard’s desperate “IT DOES!” in response to Seth ragging on Carto Hawk is hilarious. It’s so great when underplayed cards get their time to shine because everyone has that internal debate of “maybe this cards would go good in my _________ deck”
If there is something I dont understand in how Crim played both games, is why the hell Ulalek wasnt cast immediatly when he could to get more Eldrazi doubling and/or more Triggered abilities doubling. It is why Ulalek is so great
@@Sinistra359 Who cares to do more cool thing and makes the deck pop off even more ? It is casual like you said and doing more cool things is fun. Imagine drawing 6 cards with Unsealing and not 3. Imagine getting more spawn.. Imagine getting even more doubling of everything
@@Sinistra359 It doesnt affect me.. IM just stating why not play Ulalek and have even more fun. I couldnt care less on how they play.. It is you that is affected by my comment and try to defend..
Come on Seth, I love my Arna deck, and I'm so sad to see this. I built my deck with bestow creatures, reconfigure creatures and living weapon type equipment, so Arna makes creature tokens when he copies the equipment and auras. So fun.
Seth, I must respectfully disagree that devoid is the worst mechanic ever. Devoid has a lot of upside, especially in the 5c eldrazi deck. It allows a lot of the colorless wraths to still not hit your own permanents.
Do y’all buy the cards for your deck each week or do y’all proxy some of them? It seems like it’d be crazy expensive to be buying a new deck every week in paper
Seth just opened 2000 dollars worth of MH3 on stream, I'm assuming they buy most of their cards. I could be wrong though, but most of the cards they play look legit.
@@matthiasvecanski7044 I wonder how they keep card inventory as a company. I’d guess Richard & goldfish still own those cards that are opened for content, but they all live in different places so keeping track of that must be a bitch. Be weird to be Seth & open a seralized card just for it to belong to the company instead lol
Annihilator is actually best in commander, cause everyone plays Fing midrange decks with 19 quintillion permanents or is a token deck. The time frame in the game that it normally crops up just means you have to choose which engine pieces you keep, or breaks board locks.
14:36 planar nexus doesn’t make two mana. It has all the urza’s types, but not their abilities. Unless I’m missing another card’s static effect that allows it to tap for two
in game 1, did Phil just not have any interaction with Nadu or something? I'm so confused... it seems like he did everything but actually use Nadu when playing the Nadu deck.
What did I miss? Crim pleading his desire to hit Phil and Seth attacks Crim? Crim double-checking that Seth is going to attack him even though Crim says again that his primary target is Phil? Why in the world would it make sense to poke the big tentacled bear?!
I’m. It to concerned about Nadu in commander. It can do busted things and be played at higher power tables. Its play patterns are redundant and time consuming. These traits typically give a commander a short lifespan. I’m thinking Vannifar.
this pod lol, the slightest threat on the board "ARE WE JUST DEAD?" Ya'll crack me up.
That's the standard content creator meta. You're only allowed to run 1 boardwipe per deck.
Pretty sure that’s just richard lol
Richard and Seth. Seth never stops pushing everyone else as the threat.
For real. They play a land turn 2 and it’s a freak out haha
Nadu is potentially the most Phil commander of all time, after Lonis
Shame he didnt do anything with the deck. :D
@@Lornext he had the lowest of low rolls In game 2
I haven't seen the rest of the video yet, but just after the intros... these decks are ON BRAND for the crew
I wasn't gonna comment that as soon as I saw the thumbnail, but you beat everyone to it
It is and it is not in same time. Phil is terrible with any effects that gives you anything "from top", cascade, discover, bridge, Nadu.. he bricks most of the time :D
Phil switched it from "wanna do cool things?" To "you could wait and see funny things!"
A great effort.
What an impressive showing for Eldrazi. Who would have thought that stapling ancestral recall and making 2 copies of each of your 7 drops would be good. Coulda fooled me.
Yeah. I thought the colorless Eldrazi precon we got like a year or two back was really nice for the type, but oh man WoTC went nuts with MH3. Eldrazi went from a good type to quite possible the strongest tribal build in Commander, I think
@@Alino- nah Edgar Markov Vampires still exists
@@VivBrodock Yeah, fair. I also play Sidar Jabari and that knight deck is solid too.
Crim didn't even use his commander's ability at any point lol. Just a 5 mana 2/5.
Yeah idk why eldrazi needed this much help
I honestly miss the wrap up at the end of the games. The video ends a little bit abruptly and it was always interesting to hear about the decks and thoughts about the games IMO.
Is there a reason these aren’t done anymore?
The videos were getting really long and the analytics showed that very few people actually watched the wrap ups (most people just turned off the video when the game ended), so we ended up cutting the wrap up segment. Are other people missing it too? It could potentially be brought back if its something you all want.
@@MTGGoldfish Well I think the wrap up doesn‘t really take anything away from the video, when it is at the end. People uninterested can just click away like you said. The episodes this season are shorter anyway, so an extra 5min shouldn‘t be an issue. But that‘s just my opinion.
Other than that I‘ve really been enjoying this season, the editing‘s been great.
@@MTGGoldfishJust want to chime in and mention that I would love the return of the wrap-ups!
@@MTGGoldfishI also miss the wrap-ups at the end. It was especially nice when someone's deck doesn't get to do their thing so you can at least hear how it was supposed to work
I would also love the return of wrap ups! I think it highlights a very authentic side of the game, that being your own perception of how your deck played / how others’ worked against yours.
I am absolutely shocked Richard isn't playing the Field of the Dead on a stick
Which one?
Necroblossom@@commanderpower99
That's later I garuntee he will
@@commanderpower99 The Abzan plant/mushroom guy that makes 2/2 zombies if you have 7 different lands and gives them Dredge 2
@@commanderpower99Necrobloom
lol Phil whiffing that many triggers is the most Phil thing ever
His deck was low on lands and high on 5+ mana spells. Not a great showing.
Honestly, looking at the Decklist, it's very difficult to make a worse Nadu Deck.
@Terminatornero Phil doesn't like to play good decks. Phil likes to play decks with high risk/high reward combos and little to no interaction. While this is cool to watch in Brewer's Kitchen, in an edh game with 3 highly interactive players, these type of combos either flop or they just rarely ever happen.
Cartographer's Hawk looking absolutely amazing. I can't believe I've never heard of this card before.
Can't tell if memeing or not
😂😂😂 good one
Hi Richard!
Phil hard punished for only having 33 actual lands in his landfall deck. Also I think he missed out by not running out Nadu earlier in both games. I know he was scared of removal, but it was clear at that point no one really had any. It's not the worst thing in the world if the bird gets targeted and removed because at least you get a trigger.
I don’t want it. I just need it. To breathe. To feel. To know I’m alive. CLASH ON!
finger deep within the borderline
Things I didn't think I'd see in the comments of Commander Clash: a Stinkfist reference
Tool Time!
@@NickyKnickerson right???
@@NickyKnickersonmy taste in music is as eclectic as my taste in MTG Podcasts 😉
The commander to the graveyard was brutal from Crim..
I love it!
17:35 nadu would resolve first since triggers go on the stack in turn player order and resolve backwards.
Need a commander clash shirt that just says “Are we dead?”
Seth - Everythings a panharmonicon if you squint hard enough
I just love seeing the crew get new toys, even if those toys are a bit silly and dangerous.
You all worried about phill but Richard just owned the tabled game 1
you can say it's how 90% of Commander Clash games go
I don't know when Phil drew Aphetto Alchemist which he discarded but it's infinite looting with Unctus because it can untap itself over and over again. Also Phil could have attacked with the creatures he turned into blue artifacts to get a looting effect.
Conduit pylons is a solid budget option for high color decks, I'm glad someone else is on that.
42:47 "Tony Hinchcliffe over here" for witty roastmaster was hilarious xD
Right!? And it went unnoticed by the rest of the table, poor Phil :(
I think Ocelot Pride is strong, but the only reason it destroyed game 1 was the lack of removal. There was a single late attempt to wipe the board, and that's all. The Phil/Richard/Seth meta is hilariously degenerate.
Are you planning on removing the 1 mana 1/1? Or wrathing a T4? The pride seems strong if played T1 or T2.
@@QPat3000 I said the card is strong, and that remains true. However, that game had virtually no answers in it. I think Ocelot Pride is comparable to other powerful 1-drops like Ragavan, or Serra Ascendant. You could easily justify using a Swords to Plowshares on it, and nobody did that. It should have died in a wrath between turns 4 and 6, but the only wrath that was attempted got countered. Even small interactive synergies like "when X, deal 1 damage to a target" could have solved the problem, but nobody had those.
Seth, Richard, and Phil have all taken this playstyle of little to no interaction, which is a good meta call when other players have plenty. When other players don't, nobody answers the 1-drop and you lose to a 1/1 Cat.
To be fair to Richard in this episode, he really is playing an aggressive strategy, and he did successfully aggro down the table. His deck did what it was supposed to do, but it only accomplished that because of the failure of the other players. Tomer has been saying the same thing in the podcast episodes. Aggro beats value, value beats control, and control beats aggro.
@@ethanglaeser9239I think it's generally irresponsible to not run removal but the core of it is they're all playing massively different styles of games. Crim is almost always trying for a control slugfest, Richard has spiralled down a meta he thinks is present that he's 4d chess-ing, Seth is a value player itching to board wipe and Phil is playing casual battlecruiser. If they were more like each other we'd have no issues. Instead we have lame games where a player does nothing for 4 turns and is taken out as "the threat"
"Its strong but it dies to removal"
Truly a showcase of how dominate Nadu is 🔥🔥🔥
Poor Phil lol
Yeah, poor guy can’t catch a break. I like seeing his decks play, too.
Is there a reason Crim didn't tell Phil that he was going to swing out at Richard and not kill him before he cast All is Dust?
Im so glad you guys stopped playing commander on MTGO. Its just way more visually friendly to watch someone play real magic over MTGO.
And you can fit in two games in less time than one game on MTGO.
Could Phil have cast Obscuring Haze after the Nadu trigger resolved (and before it phased out) in game 1 to prevent the damage from Richard’s attack?
Correct. After resolution there will be a new round of priority. So you can can have your counter countered, but then as the stack resolves you can have another chance to interact before the stack clears.
Eldrazi have officially reached Sliver-levels of synergy.
I love the move to webcam instead of using MTGO. It feels like you guys have more fun and there is more table talk between you.
you 4 are genuinely the most hilarious group of magic players ive ever seen keep it up!
Favorite time of the week
Wow what a amazing game!! One of my fav episodes I've seen so far!! The power level and effiency of the new cards, thehy are insane!! Look how powerful that last turn was!!! Crazy game!!
Glad you enjoyed!
This disrespect and bad manners from Crim at 59:13 throwing away the plant tokens. You could hear the hurt from Richard.
How did no one view Richard as a threat early in the first game? He was playing ramps and threats at the same pace as Phil, but I guess everyone got blinded by Nadu
Because if the Nadu deck was optimized it could have won instantly at any given moment.
They didn't know the decklist so it's best to assume the worst.
Congrats you have described every single game of this season so far
They always let Richard win and target Phil. This your first episode?
Cartographer's Hawk actually ramped? MULTIPLE TIMES?!? Have pigs started flying yet?
Not yet.
Seth bending cards at 11:43 hurts my soul
Richard’s dad life is evolving into dad jokes on clash. All is right in the magic world.
With Seth, everything is a Panharmonicon!
Helm of host on the bird.... no matter how you look at it, its terrifying.
Phil! Das mit der Combo hat einem das Herz gebrochen!
Yap, brutal
The fact that this video is over an hour long leads me to believe Nadu doesn't auto win on turn 4?
They chose a decklist that focuses on searching for 6 drops instead of winning or effecting the game
@@bobthor9647Have you met Phil? He's playing battlecruiser against weird sweats
@@seanedgar164 and yet somehow the table falls for Richard's "oh my god guys, Phil is going to kill us all" spin as easily as ever.
@@japplekthat’s because everyone fears “the combo” even though it really didn’t have much going on. Threat assessment is piss poor as usual. But it makes for watching some fun games I guess.
@@TehBoogyMan I mean that's not really fair since if Phil drew Shuko or Greaves he would have won on the spot, so it's correct to fear the combo.
Did Richard win the game going first on his turn 6? Holy.
Okay crim we got to see you play sketti today, but next we NEED corgi
Love the Phil knocked out token :D
Love the second game is the gang roasting richard for cart hawk while hes like "STOP GUYS I SWEAR IT'S GOOD"
Feel bad for Phil, basically got bullied the entire time
Politics/finger pointing/deflection are so important at the table & Seth/Crim/Richard are masters at it. Tomer gets picked on too for the same reason.
Richard & Crim both had objectively worse boardstates & Phil needs to be able to point that out.
Phil does play his hand too early sometimes as well as cards that beg to be removed quite often.
Kinda what has to happen against Nadu, though
Couldn’t agree more , plus they talk over them with a lot with outrageous claims
Probably my least favorite part of CC
Still really like it but can’t wait for Crim week
Richard’s desperate “IT DOES!” in response to Seth ragging on Carto Hawk is hilarious. It’s so great when underplayed cards get their time to shine because everyone has that internal debate of “maybe this cards would go good in my _________ deck”
Every new set release:
Seth: What's the new Panharmoniconish commander? :)
I'm convinced anything that says any combination of "copy" "another" or "two" is considered a Panharmonicon by Seth
00:20 i love you so much Phil please keep being you
On the last turn of second game when Crim went all out with Eldrazi shenanigans i expected to see It That Betrays and then all is dust :D
Seth’s first 5 turns he plays All Come into play tapped lands 😂😂
If there is something I dont understand in how Crim played both games, is why the hell Ulalek wasnt cast immediatly when he could to get more Eldrazi doubling and/or more Triggered abilities doubling. It is why Ulalek is so great
Who cares. It's a low-stake-casual game.
@@Sinistra359 Who cares to do more cool thing and makes the deck pop off even more ? It is casual like you said and doing more cool things is fun.
Imagine drawing 6 cards with Unsealing and not 3. Imagine getting more spawn.. Imagine getting even more doubling of everything
@munsulight721 only you can let something that's not as serious affect you. Get some sunlight.
It's a lot of mana. Despite having Tron and a lot of ramp he ended up discarding to hand size in game 1
@@Sinistra359 It doesnt affect me.. IM just stating why not play Ulalek and have even more fun. I couldnt care less on how they play.. It is you that is affected by my comment and try to defend..
I agree eldrazi are strange. They are just a bunch of good stuff. Annihilator is such a brutal effect. I wish they just did more stuff with Ingest
Come on Seth, I love my Arna deck, and I'm so sad to see this. I built my deck with bestow creatures, reconfigure creatures and living weapon type equipment, so Arna makes creature tokens when he copies the equipment and auras. So fun.
Honestly, some of the best commander magic I've watched
Thanks!
I haven't watched the video yet but I bet Phil is just going to stomp everyone with Nadu.
or the traditional get ganged up by everyone while ignoring Crim and Richard who win. (it was this)
Phil isnt playing any tutors for the greaves or Shuko...
Seth, I must respectfully disagree that devoid is the worst mechanic ever. Devoid has a lot of upside, especially in the 5c eldrazi deck. It allows a lot of the colorless wraths to still not hit your own permanents.
"Volcanic Fissure" is my proctologist's nickname for my taint
Seth played taplands on 4 of his first 5 turns 😂😂😂
55:38 if you unctus the cats you gain extra life here. Not sure how much it would matter but you get a few more looks.
Do y’all buy the cards for your deck each week or do y’all proxy some of them? It seems like it’d be crazy expensive to be buying a new deck every week in paper
They're sponsored by Card Kingdom, who I assume loans them the cards every week.
Seth just opened 2000 dollars worth of MH3 on stream, I'm assuming they buy most of their cards. I could be wrong though, but most of the cards they play look legit.
Also them buying cards is a business expense on their taxes cause it’s their job
@@matthiasvecanski7044 I wonder how they keep card inventory as a company. I’d guess Richard & goldfish still own those cards that are opened for content, but they all live in different places so keeping track of that must be a bitch. Be weird to be Seth & open a seralized card just for it to belong to the company instead lol
Well, it’s hard for devoid to be a good mechanic when it’s not a mechanic.
It’s just a property of the card. It’s like say red is a back mechanic.
Lol Richard's dad joke was peefect
Annihilator is actually best in commander, cause everyone plays Fing midrange decks with 19 quintillion permanents or is a token deck. The time frame in the game that it normally crops up just means you have to choose which engine pieces you keep, or breaks board locks.
14:36 planar nexus doesn’t make two mana. It has all the urza’s types, but not their abilities. Unless I’m missing another card’s static effect that allows it to tap for two
Yeah, you are right about Nexus, it was the Forsaken Monument making colorless things tap for an extra mana that let it tap for two.
@@MTGGoldfishCommanderoh gotcha, I didn’t see that, thanks :)
Seth WHAT are you doing to your cards at 11:40 😭
Just a little warm up bending.
in game 1, did Phil just not have any interaction with Nadu or something? I'm so confused... it seems like he did everything but actually use Nadu when playing the Nadu deck.
Seth with the Neutral Milk Hotel swag this episode
What did I miss? Crim pleading his desire to hit Phil and Seth attacks Crim? Crim double-checking that Seth is going to attack him even though Crim says again that his primary target is Phil? Why in the world would it make sense to poke the big tentacled bear?!
Seth played his commander!! Let's go!!
Who ever could have seen Phil playing Nadu coming??? 😱😱😱
Phil's dead face tokens are sooo good!
Ugin's Mastery only works with creatures, so Crim shouldn't have been able to fill Eye of Ugin, or the Forsaken monument. But still really fun games!!
So Phil has 4 cards in hand and 3 are known. Why was he the threat? lol. Everyone just fell on their sword in front of Richard to spite Phil
Nadu is more of an Archenemy than Nicol Bolas ever was
Every time, I am wondering what Crim will say when they do 'Clash on!'
Seth’s first 3 turns were taplands 😂😂
Guess Phil should have traded one of those 2 elves on the second cat attack!
Phil needed to run more lands. Only 33, wants it to be a lot higher, and be more aggressive with mulligans
Phil needs the lands with weird etb effects that target creatures but ultimately don't REALLY do anything.
Crim succumbing to Eldrazi madness in real life.
Phil really need fogs, more fogs LOL
“Willy Roastmaster”😂😂
I’m. It to concerned about Nadu in commander. It can do busted things and be played at higher power tables. Its play patterns are redundant and time consuming. These traits typically give a commander a short lifespan. I’m thinking Vannifar.
SPOILER :
don't be fooled by Nadu's performance, if Phil played right he would have won both games 100000%
Seth, you should try Arna as a Bestow commander.
Ohh, that does sound fun!
@@MTGGoldfishCommander
Heads up. You will need a LOT of mana. The old bestow effects were expensive.
Living weapons is the way i went! Super interesring, not sure how good it is though haha
Here comes the Nadu insanity
Seth playing a doubling deck!?!? 😂
Did I miss it? Seth was supposed to get another turn after Crim stole his turn with Emrakul, but I think the crew missed it...
You let Phil play simic? Are you insane? This is going to be hilarious.
This is game knights level of threat assessment 😂
"thats crazy power creep" - guy playing Nadu
Charitable Levy foils are currently $1CDN... That card seems absolutely cracked, no?
Thanks. Where can we find the decklists?
They are linked in the description, but also here: www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/we-play-modern-horizons-3-commander-clash-s16-e22
Swolemn Simulacrum needs to become a thing.
Any body else seeing the video divided into chapters with the names of the chapters being the mh3 mdfcs?
Not I
Seth I hate to break it to you but every card is basically a panharmonicon today lol
I haven't seen Nadu lose in a video yet. Hopefully, this video will change that.
This just emphasized my hatred for Eldrazi lol. fun video still.
Would love to see the MH3 upgrade videos - I'm waiting on your opinions before I upgrade :)
How was crim tapping the nexus for 2 mana each turn? Or did I miss something
The nexus was counting as all Urza lands for the cave he had, he was tapping the cave for 2. I thought the same as you.
“Are we dead Phil?”