@@shtstirrer Is there really? Nobody knows hoch much they really took and even if they took much, in the end doping is responsible for about 5%, 95% is still raw power, if not more. So yes, they were doped and prob. are, but its not like they would not crush it if they were clean. People tend to drastically overestimated, what doping really does, if you are already at such a high peak. Armstrong still would have been top 10 in every tour he attended propably without everything. He was good and he had a good technique and a lot of willpower. Ulrich had its problems in winter and pretty much skipped training for like half of the year while armstong professionalized everything from Training to Doping.
Didn't know that fact..... I did the ride as fast as I could and I was a cat 3/2 and finished had one hour and 5 minutes.... Also I wasn't juiced and totally solo
Ich kann mich erinnern, damals als Kind immer live geschaut. Ich hab Szenen gesehen wo alle nicht mer aufm Sattel saßen, alle standen, es ging einem richtig steilen Berg hoch. Da kommt Armstrong , sitzt aufm Sattel und schießt wortwörtlich davon. Unglaublich. Da habe ich dann dieses Hero Gefühl gehabt. Er war mein Held einer der besser ist als alle anderen... und jetzt? Alles nur Doping. Jetzt machts auch Sinn warum er soviel mehr Kraft hatte was svhon unnatürlich aussah
Ich hatte das Gefühl das jan Ullrich besser war aber Armstrong nie die Kraftreserven ausgingen. Das das Nach über 10 Jahren erst rauskam nur durch sein überlegenes Doping möglich war fühlt man sich als Zuschauer echt verarscht denn damals glaubte ich das der unterschied doch am Berg klar zu sehen ist.
Außerdem war's fair, weil alle gleich "high" waren. Und wir - die Fans, die Medien, die Sponsoren - müssen sowieso die Fresse halten. Wir strafen doch jeden außerhalb des Podests mit Nichtbeachtung, wir wollen immer nur die Gewinner sehen, wir zwingen diese Leute ja geradezu, bis an die Grenze zu gehen.
@ ostiphem Genau so sieht es aus! Doping ist im Sport eine Institution, weil die Leute sich nur um Gewinner scheren und weil gefasste Doper nur eins bedeuten: Schlechte Presse! Deswegen sind ja auch die ganzen Tests eigentlich ein Witz. Weil die Leute es eigentlich gar nicht wissen wollen. Im Fußball wissen sie genau, warum die Tests dort so lachhaft sind .......
Ich nicht... Armstrong war nie ein guter Fahrer, der hat alles nur durch Doping geschafft, der wäre ohne Doping meistens nur im Mittelfeld gelandet... Bei Ullrich weiß ich es nicht, dem traue ich aber schon mehr Talent zu als Armstrong
LOL Are you kidding me? Even Wonderboy himself said Ullrich was the most talented rider in the peloton. One of the youngest TDF winners, an Olympic champion, a world champion, a Vuelta champion, won 7 TDF stages, won stages in all GT's, won a couple of classics, etc. All this with a shorter career that he never dedicated fully in.
egal was die alle so im blut haben, die show, die sie einem geboten haben war fantastisch und keiner der vorne mitfährt ist sauber damals nicht und heute genauso wenig.
Watching it again: Nobody rode the first 2-3 kilometers in that climb faster as Armstrong in 2001. He was able to gain around 45 seconds in about 6 minutes against Ullrich, and after 12 minutes he was already almost 90 seconds ahead. But in the end he won the stage by 120 seconds or 2 minutes ahead. Means he was only able to take 30 seconds more of Ullrich in the final 25 minutes of the climb. This underlines the difference between Armstrong and Marco Pantani. Even if Pantani never rode the first 2-3 kilometers so fast as Armstrong, and never had that kind of explosive acceleration like Lance did especially in 2001, but Marco was always able to become faster and faster over a time of 30 minutes or so, why Lance was only able to ride very fast for about 10-15 minutes, and the final 20-30 minutes of a climb he rode still as fast as his rivals, but not faster anymore. He rode away very fast and took the most time in the first 2-4 kilometers of a climb, but in the final 5-10 km he wasnt able to take much more out of his opponents, but Marco was.
I have been an Ullrich fan forever. and rooted for Armstrong as well. ALL RIDERS DOPE. Its all about the UCI wanting and when they wanna catch someone. T)
Average power developed by the riders according to Antoine Vayer on this climb: Lance Armstrong 450 watts (Mutant) Jan Ullrich: 423 watts (Suspect) Christophe Moreau: 417 watts (Suspect) Alexander Vinokurov: 335 watts (Human) Laurent Jalabert: 335 watts (Human)
@@lordad So what?! You a have almost the entire sport doping and then one guy does it better than everyone else so you basically give him a career death penalty? If Lance Armstrong never doped, we wouldn't even know his name. They had to dope because the organizers of the sport knew it was happening and were allowing it to happen.
+columkenn He also had the backing of the UCI, USOC, USA Cycling and the numerous corporations Nike, Oakley, Discovery Channel, Trek, etc. Never thought they'd bust him, always though he was too powerful and that too many people were either suckers or simply part of the omertà. Glad he was caught and the whole system doping exposed.
Many top TDF riders were not beasts in their early tour days. Indurain never saw a podium in his 1st 4 tours and if you think he was clean I have a nice bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. Armstrong doped and so did everyone else in the top 10 every year he raced. Merckx was certainly a doper as was Hinault and just about every other top podium guy you can name in recent decades. Greg Lemond may have been the only modern day multiple Tour winner, who was actually clean from day one.
Sounds like a deflection to me... Who cares if the rest are doping too, that doesn't make Lyin Lance any more innocent. At least most of the other also rans weren't flapping their gums about how clean they were. He got what he deserved finally!
He was a competent one day racer. Generally that does not carry over to the sort of stage race domination he displayed, at least in modern cycling. For instance, Indurain won just one major one day race, Contador has just won his first such race this season.
I enjoy this, you have to consider in Every Sport athletes dope, it only matters how much the sponsors are willing to pay to keep it quite. Football and others sports are no different
They days of Armstrong v. Ulrich were awesome.So were the days of Rasmussen v. Contador and Contador v. Schleck. I hope Contador v. Froom will be equal if not more awesome.
Check Ullrichs natural performance parameters and compare to Armstrongs. Everybody knows who would have won if everybody were clean...See also Greg Le Monds comments...Armstrong was just the "best Doper".
Ok I can see what you are saying, it does look surprising with the wattage output but ten years on in training technology and techniques is a lot. I might argue that Froome will have been tested many times in the last couple of years. The testers will now know what they are looking for and Froome has not tested positive, nor I may add has any of the British team for a long long time.
@FranKaiserJan Ullrich wasn't clean too. Armstrong reached another level of will and technic. Diese Auseinandersetzungen waren ein modernes Märchen und es war schön dabei zusehen gedurft zu haben.
bro seriously - Wiggins and Froome clean? Really man? I mean a couple of journeymen riders who suddenly became world beaters winning the one race that hasn't been won clean since (possibly) Lemond in the late 80's? You don't have to like LA but the reality is that is the one guy who will never be forgotten
the man has been tested for seven years non stop, even during off season. the visits were un unannounced so he coupld'nt prepare ect. i wish you guys would leave him alone. give it up. the man is a freal of nature when it comes to endurance. not surprised considering they (doctors) pumped him full of liquid platinuim (read his first book).
Great rider, of course, but Merckx and Coppi are the greatest cyclists ever. Anquetil, Hinault, Indurain also have claims to be greater all round, not just the Tour de France. Armstrong deserves extra credit for overcoming cancer though
@MaresHavena ja die Touren damals warn doch am besten :D erinnere mich leider nich mehr allzu gut da dran, weil ich bei meiner erster erst 7 jahre alt war (mein vater war immer ein riesen fan) denke aber, dass dieses jahr wieder sehr gut wird, da es wieder teamzeitfahren gibt und die alp d'huez gefahren wird ;)
This has nothing to do with sport. It is a battle of who has the better doping program. Just because everybody was doping doesn't mean Armstrong won the TdF fair and square and is the better cyclist. He just had the better stuff and the better physician in Michele Ferrari. Also to believe that the sky team is clean is absolutely naive.
tibosa23 wrong, ask any major cyclists, they will say, ‘and have in many documentaries’ that whether or not lance was doping, he was the best. If he had not doped, we would not no of him, there would have been no livestrong.
WTF people say he used dope but it is not true because he has been tested for over 600 times and they found nothin he is still 7 TIME TOUR WINNER and THE BOSS!
Aside from the seven tours, the biggest differences Lance had were the commercial and political support that he got from various factions in the industry, and the lengths and sheer viciousness that he went to to keep his empire intact. In terms of ambitious doping programs, it’s debatable whether Phonak actually did more doping. When Tyler Hamilton caught Lance Armstrong in a time trial while he was riding for Phonak he may have had more of the Goods in him than anyone else. Still, this doesn’t change the fact that Armstrong was a piece of shit. As for other eras, I’m certain that Indurain was doped. As for Greg LeMond, his career occurred right in the middle of blood packing, anabolic‘s, Corticoids, and amphetamines. I guess if he was able to compete and win against all that clean, then that makes him the greatest ever. But let’s be serious.
Lance a olhar para Ullrich e a dizer com o olhar, Vou atacar. E atacou mesmo.... Um dos melhores momentos do TOUR de sempre. Armstrong, além de ser um grande ciclista, tinha uma equipa que o ajudou muito. Neste Momento, se Contador tivesse uma equipa como a Sky, batia todos os Recordes de provas ganhas no Tour, Vuelta e Giro. Contador é de longe o melhor ciclista do mundo.... Já agora, se foiu provado que Armstrong se dopou, porque não atribuíram a vitória ao 2.º classificado? Neste caso, Ullrich tinha mais 3 camisolas amarelas, 3 2.º classificados.
What was Lance’s speed here in 01 when he broke away? What was Jan’s speed in 97? Was Lance’s doping just more on point here? Did he have a motor? Did he pay them off $$$ to let him go?
Bello spettacolo: tutti o quasi tutti strafatti di EPO. Una farsa, una sceneggiata di ciclismo epico ed eroico ma che sotto sotto era marcio e corrotto.
@@Ballinsince92 es gibt entsprechende Dokus über Doping im Eigenversuch. Es hat leider nicht für erste Plätze gereicht. Ohne Doping keine Chance auf erste Plätze, mit Doping nicht(!) zwangsläufig erste Plätze. Talent, Trainingszustand sind eben nicht aufzudopen.
bradley wiggins was in 4th place on his frst serious attempt cuz he had talent that Armstrong doesnt have and never did. You people lived in denial and when he admits you say everyone was on the same, hardly a good argument in support of Lance and you call me an idiot :) i posted for yrs lance is a cheat open your eyes and you will see
![Jan Ullrich ► TdF 1997 ► Stage 10 ► Andorra [15.07.1997]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/N3jRlrknXzM/mqdefault.jpg)
Loved this era of cycling - full of characters.
All else aside, when this happened live in 01 it was absolutely epic.
Well that's the problem .. there's a lot of else in the else
@@shtstirrer Is there really? Nobody knows hoch much they really took and even if they took much, in the end doping is responsible for about 5%, 95% is still raw power, if not more. So yes, they were doped and prob. are, but its not like they would not crush it if they were clean. People tend to drastically overestimated, what doping really does, if you are already at such a high peak. Armstrong still would have been top 10 in every tour he attended propably without everything. He was good and he had a good technique and a lot of willpower. Ulrich had its problems in winter and pretty much skipped training for like half of the year while armstong professionalized everything from Training to Doping.
@@MrVaeronif u took away everyone’s dope, Armstrong would’ve still been number one.
Little do most know, that Ullrich rode faster up this climb in 97 than Armstrong did in 01.
But in 01 the stage was was much harder
Didn't know that fact..... I did the ride as fast as I could and I was a cat 3/2 and finished had one hour and 5 minutes.... Also I wasn't juiced and totally solo
@@suequick334try it again with juice. Report back
Those were the best years of televised cycling. If dope were to make the
racing this exciting again. They should all take it.
👍😂
They all were lol
Ich kann mich erinnern, damals als Kind immer live geschaut. Ich hab Szenen gesehen wo alle nicht mer aufm Sattel saßen, alle standen, es ging einem richtig steilen Berg hoch. Da kommt Armstrong , sitzt aufm Sattel und schießt wortwörtlich davon. Unglaublich. Da habe ich dann dieses Hero Gefühl gehabt. Er war mein Held einer der besser ist als alle anderen... und jetzt? Alles nur Doping. Jetzt machts auch Sinn warum er soviel mehr Kraft hatte was svhon unnatürlich aussah
Ich hatte das Gefühl das jan Ullrich besser war aber Armstrong nie die Kraftreserven ausgingen. Das das Nach über 10 Jahren erst rauskam nur durch sein überlegenes Doping möglich war fühlt man sich als Zuschauer echt verarscht denn damals glaubte ich das der unterschied doch am Berg klar zu sehen ist.
Angermann und Rominger-best german commentator duo in cycling ever, I just loved listen to them
I guess Im pretty off topic but do anyone know a good website to stream new movies online?
@Taylor Owen flixportal :D
@Julio Reginald thanks, signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there =) Appreciate it !
@Taylor Owen no problem =)
blaa, blaa, trotzdem waren es die besten Duelle für mich
Ich schaus mir noch heute gerne an
+GoodMusic : eindeutig Doping, wurde auch später nachgewiesen und alle Siege von Lance aberkannt worden.
Außerdem war's fair, weil alle gleich "high" waren. Und wir - die Fans, die Medien, die Sponsoren - müssen sowieso die Fresse halten. Wir strafen doch jeden außerhalb des Podests mit Nichtbeachtung, wir wollen immer nur die Gewinner sehen, wir zwingen diese Leute ja geradezu, bis an die Grenze zu gehen.
@ ostiphem
Genau so sieht es aus! Doping ist im Sport eine Institution, weil die Leute sich nur um Gewinner scheren und weil gefasste Doper nur eins bedeuten: Schlechte Presse! Deswegen sind ja auch die ganzen Tests eigentlich ein Witz. Weil die Leute es eigentlich gar nicht wissen wollen.
Im Fußball wissen sie genau, warum die Tests dort so lachhaft sind .......
Ich nicht... Armstrong war nie ein guter Fahrer, der hat alles nur durch Doping geschafft, der wäre ohne Doping meistens nur im Mittelfeld gelandet... Bei Ullrich weiß ich es nicht, dem traue ich aber schon mehr Talent zu als Armstrong
JohnPlayer2oo7 er hat genauso gedopt und hat armstrong nicht geschlagen. vllt mehr talent, aber kein training
LOL Are you kidding me? Even Wonderboy himself said Ullrich was the most talented rider in the peloton. One of the youngest TDF winners, an Olympic champion, a world champion, a Vuelta champion, won 7 TDF stages, won stages in all GT's, won a couple of classics, etc. All this with a shorter career that he never dedicated fully in.
Lance is the BEST forever. all the big drivers were doped, all the legends. and i'm sure still today.
Armstrong is a Legend. all were doped. just u are sick weack and a poor man.
thank you!!!
egal was die alle so im blut haben, die show, die sie einem geboten haben war fantastisch und keiner der vorne mitfährt ist sauber damals nicht und heute genauso wenig.
Watching it again: Nobody rode the first 2-3 kilometers in that climb faster as Armstrong in 2001. He was able to gain around 45 seconds in about 6 minutes against Ullrich, and after 12 minutes he was already almost 90 seconds ahead.
But in the end he won the stage by 120 seconds or 2 minutes ahead. Means he was only able to take 30 seconds more of Ullrich in the final 25 minutes of the climb.
This underlines the difference between Armstrong and Marco Pantani. Even if Pantani never rode the first 2-3 kilometers so fast as Armstrong, and never had that kind of explosive acceleration like Lance did especially in 2001, but Marco was always able to become faster and faster over a time of 30 minutes or so, why Lance was only able to ride very fast for about 10-15 minutes, and the final 20-30 minutes of a climb he rode still as fast as his rivals, but not faster anymore.
He rode away very fast and took the most time in the first 2-4 kilometers of a climb, but in the final 5-10 km he wasnt able to take much more out of his opponents, but Marco was.
I have been an Ullrich fan forever. and rooted for Armstrong as well. ALL RIDERS DOPE. Its all about the UCI wanting and when they wanna catch someone. T)
THANK YOU FOR THE UPLOAD. I don’t care about Doping I just love the Entertainment 😍
beste zeiten damals
He gave him the look of... "I've had more EPO than you have". LOL
More mechanical Doping
I dont think he was professionell better Works more drives more in Rain and so on
Average power developed by the riders according to Antoine Vayer on this climb:
Lance Armstrong 450 watts (Mutant)
Jan Ullrich: 423 watts (Suspect)
Christophe Moreau: 417 watts (Suspect)
Alexander Vinokurov: 335 watts (Human)
Laurent Jalabert: 335 watts (Human)
That doesn't mean Vino wasn't doping!!
EPO from armstrongs podcast with the dr said only added 10% wattage to FTP,
Doped or not... the best era
I know it's too bad it all turned out to be BS. It was fun to watch at the time.
spin to win!
Waren trotz Doping immer noch die besten Duelle und beide waren gedopt von daher gleich .
Nein! So funktioniert Doping nicht.
Big Jan will always be the true #1
He doped too!
@@sevenrats yes but Armstrong took doping to a whole new level
@@lordad So what?! You a have almost the entire sport doping and then one guy does it better than everyone else so you basically give him a career death penalty? If Lance Armstrong never doped, we wouldn't even know his name. They had to dope because the organizers of the sport knew it was happening and were allowing it to happen.
There are levels in doping, and no one is on Armstrong's level.
c'est top le dopage chez Armstrong, il va encore plus vite qu'une moto
la mejor etapa de montaña vaya guion el de armstrong
"Interestingly, Lance Armstrong's VO2 Max does not seem to be diminished at high altitude." LOL. High Tech Cycling pp 114, 2003
7:07
Armstrong: How much dope do you take?
Ulrich: Epo?
Armstrong: I take everything noob, asta la vista... se you
anyone that thinks everyone in the peloton wasn't juiced is a fool. Lance was a beast.
+Dale Wright He wasn't a beast in his early Tours. His success was achieved by pushing the doping to levels far beyond what his rivals were risking.
+columkenn He also had the backing of the UCI, USOC, USA Cycling and the numerous corporations Nike, Oakley, Discovery Channel, Trek, etc. Never thought they'd bust him, always though he was too powerful and that too many people were either suckers or simply part of the omertà. Glad he was caught and the whole system doping exposed.
Many top TDF riders were not beasts in their early tour days. Indurain never saw a podium in his 1st 4 tours and if you think he was clean I have a nice bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. Armstrong doped and so did everyone else in the top 10 every year he raced. Merckx was certainly a doper as was Hinault and just about every other top podium guy you can name in recent decades. Greg Lemond may have been the only modern day multiple Tour winner, who was actually clean from day one.
Sounds like a deflection to me... Who cares if the rest are doping too, that doesn't make Lyin Lance any more innocent. At least most of the other also rans weren't flapping their gums about how clean they were. He got what he deserved finally!
Armstrong was a beast because his Doping budget was larger than all the other dopers combined.
"Es ist nicht zu glauben, Du." - Die guten, alten Wunderdrogen des Lance: EPO und Blutdoping.
Für mich der grösste Betrüger in der Dopinggeschichte des Weltsports
Ullrich war ja auch gedopt
Nessa época eu só via esses vídeos em vídeo cassete
Uno de los ataques mas brutales que he visto
Lance forever!
He was a competent one day racer. Generally that does not carry over to the sort of stage race domination he displayed, at least in modern cycling. For instance, Indurain won just one major one day race, Contador has just won his first such race this season.
Armstrong bigest Doping Profi ever
Thank you for not adding music
this is the best proof of performance enhancement
LA went in-depth on this in his book. allegedly, it was thought of on the spot.
7:06 THE LOOK
The look of EPO
doped or not, lance is responsible for some amazing tour moments.
he doped
LONG LIVE THE EPO¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
I enjoy this, you have to consider in Every Sport athletes dope, it only matters how much the sponsors are willing to pay to keep it quite. Football and others sports are no different
European footballers do not dope. Its cycling, baseball, basketball, american football. But cycling and baseball to a much higher extent
They days of Armstrong v. Ulrich were awesome.So were the days of Rasmussen v. Contador and Contador v. Schleck. I hope Contador v. Froom will be equal if not more awesome.
Great combination of EPO, TESTOSTERONE AND TRANSFUTIONS
And motor
Ach der Klaus und der Tony! Die besten Kommentatoren!
Check Ullrichs natural performance parameters and compare to Armstrongs. Everybody knows who would have won if everybody were clean...See also Greg Le Monds comments...Armstrong was just the "best Doper".
Ok I can see what you are saying, it does look surprising with the wattage output but ten years on in training technology and techniques is a lot. I might argue that Froome will have been tested many times in the last couple of years. The testers will now know what they are looking for and Froome has not tested positive, nor I may add has any of the British team for a long long time.
@FranKaiserJan
Ullrich wasn't clean too.
Armstrong reached another level of will and technic.
Diese Auseinandersetzungen waren ein modernes Märchen und es war schön dabei zusehen gedurft zu haben.
Come on Jan follow that wheel!
Armstrong was awesome,para
das waren noch Zeiten
ullrich is a champion, and if they strip Lance of the TdF titles, I think he'll have 4 yellow jerseys.
bro seriously - Wiggins and Froome clean? Really man? I mean a couple of journeymen riders who suddenly became world beaters winning the one race that hasn't been won clean since (possibly) Lemond in the late 80's? You don't have to like LA but the reality is that is the one guy who will never be forgotten
the man has been tested for seven years non stop, even during off season. the visits were un unannounced so he coupld'nt prepare ect. i wish you guys would leave him alone. give it up. the man is a freal of nature when it comes to endurance. not surprised considering they (doctors) pumped him full of liquid platinuim (read his first book).
Master of Dope!
Armstrong and his magical mystery drink...
Great rider, of course, but Merckx and Coppi are the greatest cyclists ever. Anquetil, Hinault, Indurain also have claims to be greater all round, not just the Tour de France. Armstrong deserves extra credit for overcoming cancer though
¿who knows how much Lance bike weighed?
@MaresHavena
ja die Touren damals warn doch am besten :D
erinnere mich leider nich mehr allzu gut da dran, weil ich bei meiner erster erst 7 jahre alt war (mein vater war immer ein riesen fan)
denke aber, dass dieses jahr wieder sehr gut wird, da es wieder teamzeitfahren gibt und die alp d'huez gefahren wird ;)
Se escrevi e deixei um gostei
Did you see, he threw down the f--kin oomladden!
how do you know?
is reefer a baned substance?
Lance - the greatest Tour rider. Dopers against dopers.
This has nothing to do with sport. It is a battle of who has the better doping program.
Just because everybody was doping doesn't mean Armstrong won the TdF fair and square and is the better cyclist. He just had the better stuff and the better physician in Michele Ferrari.
Also to believe that the sky team is clean is absolutely naive.
ok?
tibosa23 You are not up date
tibosa23 wrong, ask any major cyclists, they will say, ‘and have in many documentaries’ that whether or not lance was doping, he was the best. If he had not doped, we would not no of him, there would have been no livestrong.
spoken like a true loser.
Lionel messi its a dope and everyones love him
Epo Lance...funny to see. Pogacâr scarely reminds me on this bad time.
WTF people say he used dope but it is not true because he has been tested for over 600 times and they found nothin
he is still 7 TIME TOUR WINNER
and THE BOSS!
how good was lance in his first 4 toiurs get back to me
THE BEST!!!!
Doping King 👑 Lance Armstrong
ich kann mir gut vorstellen, wenn jemand sagt:" Nur mit einem Schnitzel, fährt man vorn nicht mit".
Aside from the seven tours, the biggest differences Lance had were the commercial and political support that he got from various factions in the industry, and the lengths and sheer viciousness that he went to to keep his empire intact. In terms of ambitious doping programs, it’s debatable whether Phonak actually did more doping. When Tyler Hamilton caught Lance Armstrong in a time trial while he was riding for Phonak he may have had more of the Goods in him than anyone else. Still, this doesn’t change the fact that Armstrong was a piece of shit. As for other eras, I’m certain that Indurain was doped. As for Greg LeMond, his career occurred right in the middle of blood packing, anabolic‘s, Corticoids, and amphetamines. I guess if he was able to compete and win against all that clean, then that makes him the greatest ever. But let’s be serious.
Arnold? Still going strong. Sylvester? Still going strong. Many other holder era bodybuilders still going strong.
D
O
P
E
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Everybody has doping in this group
FREAKSHOW !!!
lance... doping.. more doping..... and more doping
They were all doing it. He's still the greatest.
@@csllover they weren't all doing it at the same level, and doping doesn't affect everyone the same way.
messi9991 our best doper beat your best doper....scoreboard
Froome is doing the same like Armstrong
da war mr. fuentes noch nich soooo bekannt :D
Lance a olhar para Ullrich e a dizer com o olhar, Vou atacar. E atacou mesmo....
Um dos melhores momentos do TOUR de sempre.
Armstrong, além de ser um grande ciclista, tinha uma equipa que o ajudou muito.
Neste Momento, se Contador tivesse uma equipa como a Sky, batia todos os Recordes de provas ganhas no Tour, Vuelta e Giro. Contador é de longe o melhor ciclista do mundo....
Já agora, se foiu provado que Armstrong se dopou, porque não atribuíram a vitória ao 2.º classificado? Neste caso, Ullrich tinha mais 3 camisolas amarelas, 3 2.º classificados.
Want to rethink that comment?
Doped or not, STILL the greatest TDF rider ever
An Asshole and swindler.
cycling is best
wie oft ist ulrich 2ter geworden?
sweet
What was Lance’s speed here in 01 when he broke away? What was Jan’s speed in 97? Was Lance’s doping just more on point here? Did he have a motor? Did he pay them off $$$ to let him go?
Bello spettacolo: tutti o quasi tutti strafatti di EPO. Una farsa, una sceneggiata di ciclismo epico ed eroico ma che sotto sotto era marcio e corrotto.
Vencedor de la etapa:Jan Ulrich.
In this year Ullrich wasn´t doped...
Maybe later in tour, but not in this stage...
lance goat
All these comments acting like Jan Ulrich wasn’t also doped out the ass here wtf. He just didn’t win so he didn’t get caughtzz
Why is the title in english if they speak german?
considering his weight and body it's accually quite amazing he never had a heart or other main organ failure riding like this doped
wake up Boy
geilste Zeit der Tour überhaupt...Ullrich hätte mit denselben MItteln Armstrong mit Leichtigkeit geschlagen.
Leider sind beide überführte Betrüger😥
@@Ballinsince92 es gibt entsprechende Dokus über Doping im Eigenversuch. Es hat leider nicht für erste Plätze gereicht. Ohne Doping keine Chance auf erste Plätze, mit Doping nicht(!) zwangsläufig erste Plätze. Talent, Trainingszustand sind eben nicht aufzudopen.
Ullrich hat auch Doping genommen
I don't care about the doping.The way he pulled away is still awesome.
Lance the greatest cyclist ever, the King of Tour de France
Lance the only 7 times winner livestrong 4 life thank you lance
ALP 2001 ( fete fin de saison des mo,oteurs de ski en avril fin
Armstrong is a crimnal
Mechanical Doping Armstrong
bradley wiggins was in 4th place on his frst serious attempt cuz he had talent that Armstrong doesnt have and never did. You people lived in denial and when he admits you say everyone was on the same, hardly a good argument in support of Lance and you call me an idiot :) i posted for yrs lance is a cheat open your eyes and you will see