Had my testosterone checked last year,it was 260 at 47, did some research,cleaned up my eating, started back to working out like I did in my 20's, had it checked at the first of this year (2023) 650 now.
Your test fluctuates dramatically depending on SOOO many things. lol Getting one low reading is almost meaningless. You need multiple over time to get a better idea. Everything you're doing is great and I'm sure it's boosting your test, but it likely sits higher than you think and you initially got it on a off day. O'Hearn is a pathological liar who just makes shit up as he goes.
It's also in your mind, ots all connected really but you can't do nothing if your brain doesn't get you to start thinking, sometimes all we need to do is get up off our lazy ass' and just start doing shit
@marc2638 It is in my mind. It's called a pituitary adenoma. I have a tumor in my head that secretes prolactin and blocks everything else. So yes, it's in my head... but not in the way you're talking about. I was 266 lbs at my heaviest and have severe sleep apnea. Until I got my cpap literally two days ago, I haven't actually slept in years. Sleep apnea CAUSES weight gain, chronic fatigue, hormone suppression, diabetes etc... and most ppl don't know they have it. I agree that a lot of ppl have to get off the couch. But sometimes, no matter how hard they try, they feel like a truck just hit them 24/7 365. These ppl (I'm one of them) need(ed) medical help. And all I did was shame myself. I used to be an athlete... wtf is wrong with me? EVERYONE should get a full body MRI every 5 years imo.
When I was 42 my test was 320. I’m 3 years full carnivore and I lost 50 pounds and I have put on 17 pounds of muscle in the last two years naturally. I work out every day and now my testosterone at 45 is 680! I eat, workout and sleep. It works
I am 45 as well and on my recent blood work my t-levels were 262 ng/dl. I have been lifting since my early 30s (took a few years off) but my t-levels have dropped every year since I started checking them 5-6 years ago. I have never done PEDs, or other drugs, and don't consume alcohol and live a pretty moderate lifestyle. I have tried all kinds of supplements to increase my test levels but nothing has ever worked. I have never tried a carnivore diet but for a person of my age I carry decent muscle mass, but I would like to get my stress levels down and try a few other supplements that I have not tried yet (DHEA) before going the TRT route.
My test levels tanked from years of alcohol abuse, even tho I was still going to gym frequently and eating well. I still looked decent but my hormones were cooked. I quit drinking and within 6 months my Test levels doubled.
45 and at 262 ng/dl. Last year I was 325ng/dl and I have a decent build but I stay tired. Part of it is a high stress job and not feeling rested even after sleeping for 7-8 hours
Your exactly right. These d called gurus day you start losing yrsterone at 40. That's bullshit becsuse I'm 46 been working out for 20 years. And I look better at 46 than I ever did. You build muscles at 40. Dontcldd daw
Mid 30s with a clean diet and gym 6 days a week my test was 109. After a year on trt I'm off my antidepressants and and much calmer and patient with people
Not even a week in. Work 6am/3pm. Every day wiped. Between 4 and 6, passing out. Yesterday, today, wide awake, no brain fog. I’m excited. If this just get’s better? Wow.
I’m in my own universe being born with hypogonadism. I’ve been on testosterone since puberty and I’m bout to turn 50. Even though I need it to survive I’m always at a higher level than most. But I’m also a case study because of the lack of info on long term testosterone use for someone who has never produced enough. I have almost super human strength without having a gym ripped body
That’s so fascinating…what a life! How has the experience been? What are the challenges or the differences that you have noticed in yourself versus what you observe in others? Do you have any psychosocial differences, at least from your perspective, in the exogenous testosterone administration causing significantly less environmental response and quickly dipping or peaking as it does in a typical endocrine profile individual’s ultradian/circadian rhythms (versus the predictable and fixed rise and fall of exogenous testosterone administration over the absorption period of the ester? Do you take other replacement hormones? Any experiential, subjective insights or perspective that you’ve taken note of and see most people just don’t get about the role or functionality caused by exogenous versus endogenous testosterone? Much questioning, I know, but much appreciation, too! thanks if you get to this; I have later in life damage that has meant virtually no more anterior pituitary hormones save for a few. I’m lucky enough to have been 100% healthy and functional from an endocrinology and metabolic perspective pre my health issues a few years back and I’m just getting into the HRT phase of it all. Now I’m just wondering what is in store for me long term if I don’t eventually have success with the alternative treatments and procedures. Thanks for sharing; I wish you the best.
Have you guys ever considered doing a show about first responders? Police, fire, EMS are notorious for a lot of things mentioned in this podcast. Sleep deprivation, long hours, high stress, diet issues, little to no recovery time. Sometimes working 48-96 hour shifts, or longer. The HRT doc I see has close to 50% of his clients that are first responders. I personally pay attention to new guys coming in the job. You can literally watch them deteriorate over the first few years of their career. I'd imagine a lot of people watching your podcasts are first responders.
Everything in life is just a tradeoff. Those types of jobs are just not “healthy” in many ways. I respect first responders and I’ve played that role as well. Tough pill to swallow but, if you’re prioritizing health and choices which adhere as closely as possible to natures laws, you will move towards another role in society. I think it’s more optimal than trying to take exogenous substances or “hack” your physiology to make the best of it.
Sleep, light - leveraging these best you can will be the best you can do (besides diet, but the biggest thing is sleep/light since they are first responders). Andrew huberman has a podcast on light, where he talks about first responders as well if I remember correctly
I’m an RN and this describes my situation perfectly. Was on the job for about 5 years before I couldn’t barely handle it any longer so I jumped on TRT and HGH. It’s definitely increases my career for at least a few more years now.
@@smorgan125 I wish you the best. I think taking hormones is not wise for numerous reasons. I understand why you did it and that it can provide acute benefits though.
Nsima's phone ringing with the Metal Gear Solid codec tone at 7:35 made me smile 😁 Still have the Alert tone ❗for notifications (which is people will recognise from every video online rights as that shock sound, it came from one of the best video games of all time) I didn't know he's a fan 😁. One of My favourite game franchises of all time and was my ring tone too for years. Had the CTU ringtone from 24 for a while too.
There are various reasons for low T in teenagers / young adults / men. One factor that is oftentimes neglected is endocrine disruptors in the diet and hypothyroidism (i.e. Hashimoto's disease or subclinical hypothyroidism). There are many ways to increase testosterone naturally. Diet, supplements and lifestyle changes can make a tremendous difference in boosting testosterone, growth hormone and hormones in general. Sleeping before 10 p.m. works wonders for your endocrine health. Including more cholesterol in your diet which is a precursor to all steroid hormones helps as well - eggs, dairy, organ meats and animal / saturated fats in general. Weightlifting, especially multi-joint exercises, such as deadlifts and squats, have been shown in various studies to increase testosterone and growth hormone levels. Tribulus Terrestris is a famous supplement that offers short-term results and doesn't address the root cause of testosterone deficiency. No one has a Tribulus deficiency. Concerning supplements, the big 3 are 1) Magnesium 2) Vitamin D 3) Zinc. Go for a magnesium formula that contains many forms of magnesium as every isoform carries unique benefits compared to others. Concerning vitamin D, go for a product that is sourced from whole foods and in liquid form to maximize absorption. Do not use more than 2,000 IU per serving because over the 2,000 IU mark there are malabsorption issues. Break the dose into 2 or 3 doses across the day, depending on when you consume a high-fat meal (vitamin D is a fat-soluble vitamin that requires fat to be efficiently absorbed in the intestines). When it comes to zinc, use zinc picolinate 30 - 40 mg per day taken with a fat-containing meal as zinc picolinate is partially fat-soluble. A nice read on increasing T levels naturally through weightlifting, nutrition and supplements is Vintage Physique by George Kelly.
Curious about the vit D being spread throughout the day. Since it’s fat soluble shouldn’t it get stored in your fat? I’ve heard of protocols mega dosing once per week.
I'm a 25yo male weightlifter with Hashimotos, I have had sub-300 test levels for well over a year now and sub 400 since I got the Thyroid disease. I supplement necessary micronutrient, eat great, and train hard. I am getting on TRT because I need it to feel better. My pituitary must be fried from hashimotos and the anxiety that was tied with it.
Clark, you got a good point but here’s my situation I was overweight. I had no enthusiasm to go to the gym. I was simply doing things out of discipline just going to work paying the bills and so forth and so when you say, we’ll go lose weight go to the gym do this that I had no desire until I got on TRT.
Mental clarity with regards to the state of your body is like an up and up or down and down. Finding your trigger to keep up and up is key and tough sometime to find. I'm on mine like a top the past month. I have to take an ice shower every day. Some times 3 times a day. It has been the charm and shiny object that is working. I took a month off from them and suffered quite a bit. My poor family too. It's not just you. It touches many and if you can up and up someone else. It helps you too. It makes sense why I want to workout now. Fasting is another key to this. That month off of ice showers, i was eating three or more times a day. It was a down and down for sure. Great info here. keep it up and up
Since 2017 I have been doing 10x10 regime with only 135 pounds but compound movements. I can attest to this I’m a different human now I started as a stick but I’m a gorilla now. My size down there also grew in thickness and length I am currently 27 and sit at 185 pounds at 5’8. This regime changes you as a human no lie. Deadlifts, squats, barbell incline and military presses and my arms are also compound days it’s all compounds. When the CNS runs on overdrive something magical happens within the body
So it was a form of German volume training; the 10x10 sets were you using a weight close too you’re 15 rep max; also was you using fast or slow eccentrics
At 47, with a T-score of 260, went on DR monitored TRT for three years, 400ml every two weeks, straight injections into the glute. Felt great, was a triathlete, making great gains...until the blood clots showed up in my spleen three years alter at age 50. Now, NO DR will touch my testosterone in ANY way. I went from being an energetic and driving athlete to struggling to find a reason to even work out. Clean eating, strength training, good sleep, T score leveled out at 460. Do I want it higher? Yes.
Even natural testosterone has side effects. 😢 I had some of the worst acne you ever saw as a kid. According to my demonologist due to high testosterone levels. Everything has its pros and cons. The body functions well with good balance. Although in the old days probably a non issue 😂
Hey friends. The one doctor is 💯 percent correct about losing weight first. I went on TRT when I was 35 percent body fat. I gained muscle and got libido but it did NOTHING for weight loss. I just had big arms and a gut. I want you to avoid my mistake. Get lean first. Dial in nutrition and sleep, and you might not need TRT. Fast forward now I’m 42, in good shape, lean and added muscle not on TRT anymore as of 6 years without it. I will add that since im very lean now im feeling all the low T and my age so im considering it again. But PLEASE don’t go on TRT unless you are dialed in, lean and THEN feel you need it. He is absolutely right. You don’t need to shut down your natural levels like I did. Good luck all.
Really cool idea to mix in a bunch of podcast clips, something I haven't seen other pages do. Still think the 'coming up' intro is a waste of time but at least it's only 30 seconds vs the old 5 minute crap
Being a stay at home Dad and with a really low body fat percentage really tanked my T. I am trying to put on some fat but i think trt is the only thing that could counter being with my young kids all the time.
Up until I was 37, 17² lbs. I could rep 50 lb. Dumbbells absolutely clean, straight-backed, NO SWINGING hammer curls, regular curls, shoulder press and flat, incline and decline for hours straight. After 37, my motivation sucked, and year after year my strength incrementally decreased, sleep patterns were all over the place. Now 50 lb. Dumbbells feel like REAL work.
I know an older man with testosterone at 800 to 1000. Not on TRT like all these gurus. His protocol works. Complete Guide To Testosterone by James Francis.
I'm 60 been on a very high FAT diet Ketovor for 3yrs. Had Meark Health do the $850 labs came back 760 Test. Fee Test was low GH was a little low they didn't recommend Test but did CJC1295 an Ipamorlin an some other micros fell great on it for just one week at moment. But my base Test was great before anything. I fell the Ketovor diet put this into play.
I'm thinking about going and seeing my doctor to see i'm about getting testosterone I'm 31 And even with 8-9 hours of sleep I still feel sluggish and not ready to take on the day. I'm always tired. I had a sleep study done. And they said, no, they didn't find anything. But I'm always lacking energy In a way's tired, ready to take a nap. I'm ready to have the motivation to be able. Go out and conquer life again
Nathan French is straight up just admitting to taking test as a PED. He's insists on overtraining which crashes his system - and test solves that problem. It's a "performance" "enhancing" "drug" in this aspect. I'm sure his test would be fine if he actually worked on lifestyle factors
This is what culture is built on now. Instant gratification and prioritizing what the internet thinks of you is paramount. He even said himself, the fact that it’s more socially acceptable made him even think of it. Most people are lemmings
I went from 334 to 960 in around 3 months. This book should be essential reading for all men. An eye opener for me after more than a yesr of getting nowhere. Complete guide to testosterone by james Francis
I had prostate cancer at the age of 68 my testosterone level was normal but my psa was 4.1 now I can never have testosterone therapy and have to go natural. And it's definitely difficult
If he just was honest about his gear use or even just not address it folks would be cool... I think the fact he just downright lies upsets folks. Personally I can't imagine getting upset that a guy I've never met lies about his drug use, absolutely none of my business.
@@RMILLSMMA exaclty wtf does it matter if some dude isnt natural?!.. If you know somewhat about lifting you can have a good guess if someone is or isnt and you can take the things he says that applies to you eventough he isnt natural. Mike got great advice for naturals but everyone is just focused on the natty or not bs so they dont even listen
I have worked nights for 6 years and I don't think there is a magic fix other than working a different shift. Dr. Huberman and others have videos on ways to enhance sleep and such. They might be worth watching if that is a struggle you have from working nights.
Bro listening to this guy is like listening to liverking. A bSR to the max! I bet he’s on 200test 20tren and 50clen and some hgh. That’s his personality. I know men in their 50s that have to do that and tripple more than I mention to look twice smaller than fakeOHearn
Im 51 and every time I get a physical my levels are always at the very bottom of the so called reference range and my doctor says oh you're normal....if i didn't have two kids to take care of i would have already checked out of this life....its so frustrating.
44 here. I had a doc tell me my test levels were "within normal range"... My levels were average for someone 30 years my senior and I had multiple symptoms. Parenting (a 6yo) on TRT is better for me. I have a lot less fatigue. I'm more assertive on discipline (kid gets 1 warning, not 57).
Natty is like being a virgin. Don’t get to claim it back later. Also a big difference between TRT and going to a clinic that has you at 200 mg/ wk to “optimize “ your levels.
Don't know m8. I went to my GP. I had low T because of stress in job and shitty lifestyle at that time, plus some personal problems. She gave me 3 bottles of testo gel straight away. She said I will have to get monthly blood tests done etc. I am into nutrition, biohacking, nootropics etc. myself. I knew I would not go for trt, as it has to many consequences. I change my diet completely. For first 30 days I was eating 30 eggs a day. Every second day ox liver. Rest was meat, veggies, fish and complex carbs like sweet potatoes, black rice, royal jelly etc. Went back to training, adjusted sleeping, plus I get some specific supplements. I sold my teso gel to get some money back.😅
It definitely can. It's not something you want to over-indulge with. Something to think about, when people smoke it leads most to over-eat, sit around and relax. It doesn't make MOST people want to do challenging things. It's a good idea to moderate HOW MUCH you smoke, maybe even not smoking at all for a good period of time. Just be mindful.
People need to talk more about free testosterone. The total number doesn’t mean much to be honest. Looks good on paper.. but when your free test is low you will still feel like shit. How can you optimize your free T? That’s the question.
Great video discussion. Kid at the end is straight up cheating though. 20 something that can't figure life out and how to effectively train (without overtraining as he admits). Dooming his testicles to atrophy and he will be on test for the rest of his life. Maybe that is part of the issue, we as American's keep looking for the easy way to do something rather then actually doing hard things.
Had my testosterone checked last year,it was 260 at 47, did some research,cleaned up my eating, started back to working out like I did in my 20's, had it checked at the first of this year (2023) 650 now.
It’s in the basics! Food, sleep and training.
Your test fluctuates dramatically depending on SOOO many things. lol Getting one low reading is almost meaningless. You need multiple over time to get a better idea. Everything you're doing is great and I'm sure it's boosting your test, but it likely sits higher than you think and you initially got it on a off day. O'Hearn is a pathological liar who just makes shit up as he goes.
It's also in your mind, ots all connected really but you can't do nothing if your brain doesn't get you to start thinking, sometimes all we need to do is get up off our lazy ass' and just start doing shit
@marc2638 It is in my mind. It's called a pituitary adenoma. I have a tumor in my head that secretes prolactin and blocks everything else. So yes, it's in my head... but not in the way you're talking about. I was 266 lbs at my heaviest and have severe sleep apnea. Until I got my cpap literally two days ago, I haven't actually slept in years. Sleep apnea CAUSES weight gain, chronic fatigue, hormone suppression, diabetes etc... and most ppl don't know they have it. I agree that a lot of ppl have to get off the couch. But sometimes, no matter how hard they try, they feel like a truck just hit them 24/7 365. These ppl (I'm one of them) need(ed) medical help. And all I did was shame myself. I used to be an athlete... wtf is wrong with me? EVERYONE should get a full body MRI every 5 years imo.
What does your diet look like these days?
When I was 42 my test was 320. I’m 3 years full carnivore and I lost 50 pounds and I have put on 17 pounds of muscle in the last two years naturally. I work out every day and now my testosterone at 45 is 680! I eat, workout and sleep. It works
That a fricken amazing!!!!! Good work 💪🏼💪🏼
I am 45 as well and on my recent blood work my t-levels were 262 ng/dl. I have been lifting since my early 30s (took a few years off) but my t-levels have dropped every year since I started checking them 5-6 years ago. I have never done PEDs, or other drugs, and don't consume alcohol and live a pretty moderate lifestyle. I have tried all kinds of supplements to increase my test levels but nothing has ever worked. I have never tried a carnivore diet but for a person of my age I carry decent muscle mass, but I would like to get my stress levels down and try a few other supplements that I have not tried yet (DHEA) before going the TRT route.
@@muayboran4life interesting share, thank you.
That’s awesome 💪
680 it’s still shit
My test levels tanked from years of alcohol abuse, even tho I was still going to gym frequently and eating well. I still looked decent but my hormones were cooked. I quit drinking and within 6 months my Test levels doubled.
Im 47 and my testosterone levels are at 398. I'm still jacked and still building muscle. Keep hitting that iron! Dont give up!
@SacredLove he's not a boomer he's gen x
Back to school son
45 and at 262 ng/dl. Last year I was 325ng/dl and I have a decent build but I stay tired. Part of it is a high stress job and not feeling rested even after sleeping for 7-8 hours
Your exactly right. These d called gurus day you start losing yrsterone at 40. That's bullshit becsuse I'm 46 been working out for 20 years. And I look better at 46 than I ever did. You build muscles at 40. Dontcldd daw
@@KrishnaSingh-ow1ie just wait till you hit 55 .. lol
@@KrishnaSingh-ow1ieyour t levels do drop after 30 years of age unless you’re taking something to bring them up. That’s a fact.
BABY DONT HURT ME 🗣️
NO MORE
Mid 30s with a clean diet and gym 6 days a week my test was 109. After a year on trt I'm off my antidepressants and and much calmer and patient with people
Trt
Cured everything in my life from sex drive to motivation within a couple weeks of use !!
Yes!
Could’ve done that naturally. Lols😊
Not even a week in. Work 6am/3pm. Every day wiped. Between 4 and 6, passing out. Yesterday, today, wide awake, no brain fog. I’m excited. If this just get’s better? Wow.
I’m in my own universe being born with hypogonadism. I’ve been on testosterone since puberty and I’m bout to turn 50. Even though I need it to survive I’m always at a higher level than most. But I’m also a case study because of the lack of info on long term testosterone use for someone who has never produced enough. I have almost super human strength without having a gym ripped body
That’s so fascinating…what a life!
How has the experience been? What are the challenges or the differences that you have noticed in yourself versus what you observe in others?
Do you have any psychosocial differences, at least from your perspective, in the exogenous testosterone administration causing significantly less environmental response and quickly dipping or peaking as it does in a typical endocrine profile individual’s ultradian/circadian rhythms (versus the predictable and fixed rise and fall of exogenous testosterone administration over the absorption period of the ester?
Do you take other replacement hormones?
Any experiential, subjective insights or perspective that you’ve taken note of and see most people just don’t get about the role or functionality caused by exogenous versus endogenous testosterone?
Much questioning, I know, but much appreciation, too! thanks if you get to this; I have later in life damage that has meant virtually no more anterior pituitary hormones save for a few.
I’m lucky enough to have been 100% healthy and functional from an endocrinology and metabolic perspective pre my health issues a few years back and I’m just getting into the HRT phase of it all. Now I’m just wondering what is in store for me long term if I don’t eventually have success with the alternative treatments and procedures.
Thanks for sharing; I wish you the best.
Have you guys ever considered doing a show about first responders? Police, fire, EMS are notorious for a lot of things mentioned in this podcast. Sleep deprivation, long hours, high stress, diet issues, little to no recovery time. Sometimes working 48-96 hour shifts, or longer. The HRT doc I see has close to 50% of his clients that are first responders. I personally pay attention to new guys coming in the job. You can literally watch them deteriorate over the first few years of their career. I'd imagine a lot of people watching your podcasts are first responders.
Everything in life is just a tradeoff. Those types of jobs are just not “healthy” in many ways. I respect first responders and I’ve played that role as well. Tough pill to swallow but, if you’re prioritizing health and choices which adhere as closely as possible to natures laws, you will move towards another role in society. I think it’s more optimal than trying to take exogenous substances or “hack” your physiology to make the best of it.
Sleep, light - leveraging these best you can will be the best you can do (besides diet, but the biggest thing is sleep/light since they are first responders). Andrew huberman has a podcast on light, where he talks about first responders as well if I remember correctly
I’m an RN and this describes my situation perfectly. Was on the job for about 5 years before I couldn’t barely handle it any longer so I jumped on TRT and HGH. It’s definitely increases my career for at least a few more years now.
@@smorgan125 I wish you the best. I think taking hormones is not wise for numerous reasons. I understand why you did it and that it can provide acute benefits though.
Same deal in the military. I myself and a lot of my guys are fucked due to lifestyle that comes with the career.
Damn, you just know this is going to be a fire episode. Very much appreciated in advance! Thanks guys! 💪
O'Hearn lives in his own little parallel universe, where he really thinks everyone believes his BS! 😂😂😂
duck eggs for the win . come clean gobshite full o tren lol
Facts, it's pathetic that many do
100 percent. Mark and nsymia said in the past they think Mike is natural.. 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Hahaha exactly!
Nsima's phone ringing with the Metal Gear Solid codec tone at 7:35 made me smile 😁
Still have the Alert tone ❗for notifications (which is people will recognise from every video online rights as that shock sound, it came from one of the best video games of all time)
I didn't know he's a fan 😁. One of My favourite game franchises of all time and was my ring tone too for years.
Had the CTU ringtone from 24 for a while too.
Ive been on fidogia for 2 weeks now, stuff works
This will be extremely helpful for anyone facing TRT forever via DR. Vs. Looking into micronutrients, diet / lifestyle.
A bunch of men on "trt" telling people not to go on trt
There are various reasons for low T in teenagers / young adults / men. One factor that is oftentimes neglected is endocrine disruptors in the diet and hypothyroidism (i.e. Hashimoto's disease or subclinical hypothyroidism). There are many ways to increase testosterone naturally. Diet, supplements and lifestyle changes can make a tremendous difference in boosting testosterone, growth hormone and hormones in general. Sleeping before 10 p.m. works wonders for your endocrine health. Including more cholesterol in your diet which is a precursor to all steroid hormones helps as well - eggs, dairy, organ meats and animal / saturated fats in general. Weightlifting, especially multi-joint exercises, such as deadlifts and squats, have been shown in various studies to increase testosterone and growth hormone levels. Tribulus Terrestris is a famous supplement that offers short-term results and doesn't address the root cause of testosterone deficiency. No one has a Tribulus deficiency. Concerning supplements, the big 3 are 1) Magnesium 2) Vitamin D 3) Zinc. Go for a magnesium formula that contains many forms of magnesium as every isoform carries unique benefits compared to others. Concerning vitamin D, go for a product that is sourced from whole foods and in liquid form to maximize absorption. Do not use more than 2,000 IU per serving because over the 2,000 IU mark there are malabsorption issues. Break the dose into 2 or 3 doses across the day, depending on when you consume a high-fat meal (vitamin D is a fat-soluble vitamin that requires fat to be efficiently absorbed in the intestines). When it comes to zinc, use zinc picolinate 30 - 40 mg per day taken with a fat-containing meal as zinc picolinate is partially fat-soluble. A nice read on increasing T levels naturally through weightlifting, nutrition and supplements is Vintage Physique by George Kelly.
Curious about the vit D being spread throughout the day. Since it’s fat soluble shouldn’t it get stored in your fat? I’ve heard of protocols mega dosing once per week.
I'm a 25yo male weightlifter with Hashimotos, I have had sub-300 test levels for well over a year now and sub 400 since I got the Thyroid disease. I supplement necessary micronutrient, eat great, and train hard. I am getting on TRT because I need it to feel better. My pituitary must be fried from hashimotos and the anxiety that was tied with it.
Clark, you got a good point but here’s my situation I was overweight. I had no enthusiasm to go to the gym. I was simply doing things out of discipline just going to work paying the bills and so forth and so when you say, we’ll go lose weight go to the gym do this that I had no desire until I got on TRT.
This video contains amazing information listening carefully 🙏
Eat as much butter as you want. It is vitamin loaded and good for blood, heart and skin.
Mental clarity with regards to the state of your body is like an up and up or down and down. Finding your trigger to keep up and up is key and tough sometime to find. I'm on mine like a top the past month. I have to take an ice shower every day. Some times 3 times a day. It has been the charm and shiny object that is working. I took a month off from them and suffered quite a bit. My poor family too. It's not just you. It touches many and if you can up and up someone else. It helps you too. It makes sense why I want to workout now. Fasting is another key to this. That month off of ice showers, i was eating three or more times a day. It was a down and down for sure. Great info here. keep it up and up
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Since 2017 I have been doing 10x10 regime with only 135 pounds but compound movements. I can attest to this I’m a different human now I started as a stick but I’m a gorilla now. My size down there also grew in thickness and length I am currently 27 and sit at 185 pounds at 5’8. This regime changes you as a human no lie. Deadlifts, squats, barbell incline and military presses and my arms are also compound days it’s all compounds. When the CNS runs on overdrive something magical happens within the body
So it was a form of German volume training; the 10x10 sets were you using a weight close too you’re 15 rep max; also was you using fast or slow eccentrics
@@chandansimms9167 slow by the 10th set my body shakes and my CNS is crazy active
My dude closes his eyes when he shoots his 3cc’s… if he doesn’t see it, it never happened 😂😂
At 47, with a T-score of 260, went on DR monitored TRT for three years, 400ml every two weeks, straight injections into the glute. Felt great, was a triathlete, making great gains...until the blood clots showed up in my spleen three years alter at age 50. Now, NO DR will touch my testosterone in ANY way. I went from being an energetic and driving athlete to struggling to find a reason to even work out. Clean eating, strength training, good sleep, T score leveled out at 460. Do I want it higher? Yes.
Going carnivore helped me.
I'm 230 ish. I'd be delighted with 460
Even natural testosterone has side effects. 😢 I had some of the worst acne you ever saw as a kid. According to my demonologist due to high testosterone levels. Everything has its pros and cons. The body functions well with good balance. Although in the old days probably a non issue 😂
Were you beating your meat during that time?
Hey friends. The one doctor is 💯 percent correct about losing weight first.
I went on TRT when I was 35 percent body fat. I gained muscle and got libido but it did NOTHING for weight loss. I just had big arms and a gut. I want you to avoid my mistake. Get lean first. Dial in nutrition and sleep, and you might not need TRT.
Fast forward now I’m 42, in good shape, lean and added muscle not on TRT anymore as of 6 years without it. I will add that since im very lean now im feeling all the low T and my age so im considering it again. But PLEASE don’t go on TRT unless you are dialed in, lean and THEN feel you need it. He is absolutely right. You don’t need to shut down your natural levels like I did. Good luck all.
Great stuff guys. The only other person I would have liked to be part of this conversation on this one would have been Jim Brown.
Really cool idea to mix in a bunch of podcast clips, something I haven't seen other pages do. Still think the 'coming up' intro is a waste of time but at least it's only 30 seconds vs the old 5 minute crap
Being a stay at home Dad and with a really low body fat percentage really tanked my T. I am trying to put on some fat but i think trt is the only thing that could counter being with my young kids all the time.
Up until I was 37, 17² lbs. I could rep 50 lb. Dumbbells absolutely clean, straight-backed, NO SWINGING hammer curls, regular curls, shoulder press and flat, incline and decline for hours straight.
After 37, my motivation sucked, and year after year my strength incrementally decreased, sleep patterns were all over the place. Now 50 lb. Dumbbells feel like REAL work.
This pod is in desperate need of some chairs haha. My legs ache just watching! 😂
Foremost Tren expert on 🔥
I know an older man with testosterone at 800 to 1000. Not on TRT like all these gurus. His protocol works. Complete Guide To Testosterone by James Francis.
I thought Mike said u don’t need testosterone anyway and now he’s an expert
Oh, good: Mike O'Tren is one of the panelists.
Thank you 🙏🏼
I'm 60 been on a very high FAT diet Ketovor for 3yrs. Had Meark Health do the $850 labs came back 760 Test. Fee Test was low GH was a little low they didn't recommend Test but did CJC1295 an Ipamorlin an some other micros fell great on it for just one week at moment. But my base Test was great before anything. I fell the Ketovor diet put this into play.
What was your shgb? Mine was 100, low free test, high total test on keto. Apparently it’s common on keto
I'm thinking about going and seeing my doctor to see i'm about getting testosterone I'm 31 And even with 8-9 hours of sleep I still feel sluggish and not ready to take on the day.
I'm always tired. I had a sleep study done.
And they said, no, they didn't find anything. But I'm always lacking energy
In a way's tired, ready to take a nap. I'm ready to have the motivation to be able. Go out and conquer life again
same reason i hopped on
It must be nice to have supraphysiological levels without using Test, just like Mike. 😊
Mine is upper 800-900 range and I'm 56
@@jamesslone6937 You don't seem to have gotten the point, but OK.
Mike eats trenbologna sandwich for breakfast
You don't seem to get mine.
7:35 that Codec ringtone had my MGS senses going off lol
I'm Curious why do some people heads seem to get bigger when they get on Trt? Or is it from growth hormone?
Nsima just has a huge noggin.
It's the growth hormone
Hgh
These 3 =🔥Combo
c-c-c-comboooo
What number episode is this podcast?
Keep your protein catabolically high
2 points
Huberman is a national treasure
No chance in hell Ohearn is natural
Yeah like you would know.
@@peternagy-im4be delusional af to think he's natural
So the old 20 rep squat program probably really does boost natural T levels
Nathan French is straight up just admitting to taking test as a PED. He's insists on overtraining which crashes his system - and test solves that problem. It's a "performance" "enhancing" "drug" in this aspect. I'm sure his test would be fine if he actually worked on lifestyle factors
This is what culture is built on now. Instant gratification and prioritizing what the internet thinks of you is paramount. He even said himself, the fact that it’s more socially acceptable made him even think of it. Most people are lemmings
50:46 If starting TRT is going to make me speak and appear slow, I would reconsider beginning such a regimen. 😅
13 minutes of sunshine every day? Do you think we live in Hawai? 😂😂
Learned more in this than in college
A little criticism to make this video better. When addressing the topic get to the point sooner.
Avoid mint, a biggy most people brush with everyday and chew with gum.
I went from 334 to 960 in around 3 months. This book should be essential reading for all men. An eye opener for me after more than a yesr of getting nowhere.
Complete guide to testosterone by james Francis
I had prostate cancer at the age of 68 my testosterone level was normal but my psa was 4.1 now I can never have testosterone therapy and have to go natural. And it's definitely difficult
baby dont hearn me GOAT since we had to start the conversation with him
I got 87 pg/ml. Is that low? I think that’s like 8.7 ml/dg
I liked the last interview.
glad you dug it
Sleep is number one big time. Exercise diet.
Absolutely!
Nathan French took the easy way out. He knows it was low due to his practices.
O’Hearn is a Narcissist, enough said.
Mike o Hearn - show us the blood work and it’ll be case closed.
My free T is 25 and that’s low. 15 and above is not good like you mentioned.
I don't always agree with Mike but he has a point and I am living proof
I'm 47 and I have 1500 levels since June according to my bloodwork
I went on a low fat diet and ended up in the hospital.
With what?
Lowfatitus
Nice.💯
I love that you have Mike on, this man has a great attitude. If you don’t like him you’re just a hater
People either love him or hate his guts 😂
I like him aside from the fact he lies about being on PEDs. I think if he was honest he wouldn’t receive that.
If he just was honest about his gear use or even just not address it folks would be cool... I think the fact he just downright lies upsets folks. Personally I can't imagine getting upset that a guy I've never met lies about his drug use, absolutely none of my business.
@@RMILLSMMA exaclty wtf does it matter if some dude isnt natural?!.. If you know somewhat about lifting you can have a good guess if someone is or isnt and you can take the things he says that applies to you eventough he isnt natural. Mike got great advice for naturals but everyone is just focused on the natty or not bs so they dont even listen
@@ClassicTor😅
I have to work night shift. So how can I keep my testosterone levels balanced?
Injecting
Quit
I have worked nights for 6 years and I don't think there is a magic fix other than working a different shift.
Dr. Huberman and others have videos on ways to enhance sleep and such. They might be worth watching if that is a struggle you have from working nights.
@@RPGs4me thank you bro
You can’t bro. Did swing shifts for 20 years. Now I’m on TRT and jacked
Bro listening to this guy is like listening to liverking. A bSR to the max! I bet he’s on 200test 20tren and 50clen and some hgh. That’s his personality. I know men in their 50s that have to do that and tripple more than I mention to look twice smaller than fakeOHearn
Eat beef, lift and sleep well
That's what I do, my testosterone is in the upper 800 range and I'm 56
@@jamesslone6937 good man! keep on smashing it!
Im 51 and every time I get a physical my levels are always at the very bottom of the so called reference range and my doctor says oh you're normal....if i didn't have two kids to take care of i would have already checked out of this life....its so frustrating.
44 here. I had a doc tell me my test levels were "within normal range"... My levels were average for someone 30 years my senior and I had multiple symptoms.
Parenting (a 6yo) on TRT is better for me. I have a lot less fatigue. I'm more assertive on discipline (kid gets 1 warning, not 57).
Seed oils and plastics take down levels of trt
mike otren, lifetime natty
mike 265 shredded at 15 and still didn't go pro....work ethic must be amazing
did they talk about ice baths and test?
Mike the Nattiest guy about, we produce test so him pinning a gram a week with some Var and Dbols is all natty super vegan imo
Yes Low Testosterone doesn’t matter when you got deca, tren and dbol in your system
Natty is like being a virgin. Don’t get to claim it back later. Also a big difference between TRT and going to a clinic that has you at 200 mg/ wk to “optimize “ your levels.
TRT is essentially optimizing. TRT is way less then full blasting what gym bros are doing.
Mike gonna ride that lie all the way down
U have to do it naturally in uk as almost impossible to get from a doctor 😢
Don't know m8. I went to my GP. I had low T because of stress in job and shitty lifestyle at that time, plus some personal problems.
She gave me 3 bottles of testo gel straight away. She said I will have to get monthly blood tests done etc.
I am into nutrition, biohacking, nootropics etc. myself.
I knew I would not go for trt, as it has to many consequences.
I change my diet completely. For first 30 days I was eating 30 eggs a day. Every second day ox liver. Rest was meat, veggies, fish and complex carbs like sweet potatoes, black rice, royal jelly etc.
Went back to training, adjusted sleeping, plus I get some specific supplements.
I sold my teso gel to get some money back.😅
DHEA? Pregnenolone?
Lol that shirt he has from the photo shoot/meme
What happens if I wake up at 1am? I don’t see sun for a while
We should not be butter shaming! all inclusive to all grass fed butter.. I consume it daily and have no ragrets! Lmaoooo
People should fix their health before hopin on T. The body will only make T if the health is optimized
Mike O Hearn is rare and is a (god)
I learned nothing 😅I'm more confused and its nice to have the meme King on the show 🎉baby don't hurt me. No more 😅
Does smoking weed negatively affect testosterone?
Yes
It definitely can. It's not something you want to over-indulge with. Something to think about, when people smoke it leads most to over-eat, sit around and relax. It doesn't make MOST people want to do challenging things. It's a good idea to moderate HOW MUCH you smoke, maybe even not smoking at all for a good period of time. Just be mindful.
Edibles don't disrupt hormones
The first guy....button up your fn' shirt you Ken doll lol
Lol, if only that was the biggest issue with Mike O’Tren
People need to talk more about free testosterone. The total number doesn’t mean much to be honest. Looks good on paper.. but when your free test is low you will still feel like shit. How can you optimize your free T? That’s the question.
do your buttons up there chad.
Cancer and heart attack
Mike ohearn mrs doubt fire
Dude pretending to take notes on the notepad but has the pencil upside down 💀 Can't write with an eraser dawg😂
People like Ohearn and the rock bother me somewhat, their dishonesty.
Great video discussion. Kid at the end is straight up cheating though. 20 something that can't figure life out and how to effectively train (without overtraining as he admits). Dooming his testicles to atrophy and he will be on test for the rest of his life. Maybe that is part of the issue, we as American's keep looking for the easy way to do something rather then actually doing hard things.
When my friends say they’re doing a .6 shot a week or TRT is that 600mg? It seems like way too much according to most videos I watch
No, that’s 120 mg a week
Mike could have been a great role model, but he chose to be the clown of the fitness industry instead. Sad.
Tren hard bois
Starts off with “Clark Bertram is 740 at 60 years old.”
I’m out