PHOTON - Fuselage part 1: Nose Taper

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  • Опубликовано: 18 июн 2012
  • This video shows how to taper the 2" exterior diameter fuselage tube to a 1"x1" nose to accept a metal motor mount. The dimensions are variable for different motor mounts and easy to customize to your needs. Part 2 coming next shows how to join the fuselage sections, cut a hatch, and install wing tie-downs.
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  • @carlsjoquist4299
    @carlsjoquist4299 10 месяцев назад

    great stuff Ed, well designed and communicated! thanks! I plan to start my Photon tonight!

  • @stevecraignet
    @stevecraignet 12 лет назад +1

    Ed, you get smarter every time I watch one of your videos.
    ...Oh wait... that's me getting smarter... sorry.
    You are THE MAN.

  • @johnnyb.4665
    @johnnyb.4665 11 лет назад

    Ed, just want to echo what many others have said and say that you have really changed the hobby for me. Your work is amazing- never thought I could scratch build and now I've got a fuselage built! I bought a hawk sky recently and suspected anything beyond that would be cost prohibitive in this hobby -but not so with your techniques, so thank you! I also have two boys (3 & 4yrs) and they are going to love this stuff as they get older. Thanks again, brother!

  • @jeremyjwolff
    @jeremyjwolff 12 лет назад

    Another Great video. Love how you take the time and explain everything in great detail. Thank you for all you do.

  • @livinggood5545
    @livinggood5545 6 лет назад

    Thanks for showing the process. Your cuts and folds looks very strong.

  • @paolomacchi
    @paolomacchi 12 лет назад

    Hi. actually I'm a RC heli pilot, but following your videos I'm getting closer and closer to the decision to try one of your projects and extend the skill to the planes. It seems so easy listening to your description. I know, reality can be different, but who knows ... Thanks

  • @virgil2795
    @virgil2795 12 лет назад

    Awesome as usual. I will be starting the construction of my Photon this weekend. ESC and Motor arrived today!

  • @johnnyb.4665
    @johnnyb.4665 11 лет назад

    I stumbled across an interesting alternative -having a local metal shop make a bunch of these mounts for you in one shot. This undermines the DIY approach a bit and is slightly more expensive. But if you’re like me and just moved to a new place so your vice isn’t set up (or you’re just bad with hammers and metal), this could work. My local shop did 10 mounts for $53. I should probably learn to do it myself and save the cash, but they look great and are perfect 90 degree bends. Just an idea!

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  12 лет назад

    That is a good idea and probably simpler in some ways too.

  • @CARLOS31449
    @CARLOS31449 9 лет назад

    thanks for sharing your videos to all of us ,but i will like to see also the complete connections step by step of the electronic components.i dis build the photon glider following yours instructions.thanks very much for yours great ideas.

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  12 лет назад

    Iron sounds like a good idea. I usually pre-tape corners or wuss out and use duct tape. I have not slopes near me so no true slope gliders, but I do hope to have a big-wingspan motorglider soon if only to try it out.

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  11 лет назад +1

    I think it would be a very cool idea. What I've found when doing that is the motor moves the CG WAY far back, so the wing will need to move or you'll need to put an extra half pound of nose weight (battery, FPV gear, etc.) to compensate. I hope you give it a try and let us know how it goes.

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  11 лет назад

    You are welcome, that's why I do it! . 1) the rubber bands slip off the CF rod at the rear. You place the wing on the fuselage, stretch the bands over, and slip on. #64 rubber bands (Office Max, Staples, etc.) stretch perfectly at 5-6", which is the approximate chord. Watch some of my other videos for alternate wing mounts if you're uncomfortable with this. 2) aluminum bar stock 1/8" is perfect. 3) CF, wood, anything strong and thin is fine. CF rod 3-4mm is nice, chopsticks or 3/16" also OK

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  11 лет назад +1

    I clamp it in a vise and hammer it over with a deadblow mallet, but any hammer would work. I'd recommend sticking with the flat barstock and bend it. I'd make the 'footprint' 2" long. You will be surprised how secure that Scotch Heavy Duty foam tape is, but 1"x1" is pretty small unless you also put a nylon screw or some other reinforcement through there.

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  12 лет назад

    I would but I've never used that foam. Readi-Board always does the trick for me.

  • @wordreet
    @wordreet 12 лет назад

    Faired in Photon motor. I like it.

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  12 лет назад

    TOTALLY TUBULAR DUDE!!!

  • @karendavis6838
    @karendavis6838 3 года назад

    Absolutely f'ing Genius!

  • @woodenshoeair
    @woodenshoeair 12 лет назад

    I have watched a quite a few of your videos so far and have found them really informative. I have not seen you use an iron yet. As a scratch builder I have found using an an old clothes iron to be a great tool to smooth tape, adhere problem tape places (hinges/corners) and thermoforming the foam itself. I use the iron switching from off to the lowest setting. You know when it gets too hot, and (warning!) can warp a surface. Keep up the great videos! (any sloping gliders in the works?)

  • @Chrisdafer199
    @Chrisdafer199 12 лет назад +1

    lol "looks decent at a distance" I did mine by cutting a wedge out of the center of each side 3/8 inch down to zero and 6 inches back. then just put hot glue on the edges of the cut out and pushed the corners together one at a time. that was before this video so I wasn't sure how it was going to turn out but a little packing tape over the seams and looks great.

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  12 лет назад

    Pretty good up to maybe 15mph. Less fun than a calm day, but you could do it.

  • @bigjoker4u
    @bigjoker4u 12 лет назад

    How do you think this will fly in my darn west Texas wind ? I wasted 60 dollars on a "Firebird commander " before I found your channel and in a 3mph wind the other day it flew away .last I saw it was heading for New Mexico .yes I'm brand new at this .Love your builds and instruction ,thanks tons

  • @womackke
    @womackke 11 лет назад

    I am just about to mount my motor on photonesque plane im making, but how do you think it would perform with the motor mounted on the rear similar to how it is mounted in the front? you know what im trying to do. ....get the prop out of the way(and I think the idea of a tail engine glider is awesome). any advice appreciated

  • @chuco425
    @chuco425 12 лет назад

    Great explanation & demonstration. How do make the metal motor mounts? They look really lite weight

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  11 лет назад

    I just cut it off at an angle. You could taper it similarly to the nose but it's somewhat more work.

  • @johnnyb.4665
    @johnnyb.4665 11 лет назад

    Thanks, Ed. Another noob moment, but any advice on best ways to bend the aluminum? My first and second try yielded a 90 degree angle, but the 1” leg was noticeably warped / twisted -not perfectly perpendicular. Alternatively, I’m happy to use the pre-bent aluminum angle, as per the motor mount video, but can you confirm that a 1” x 1” section is sufficient? I’m worried that a 1” taping surface might not secure the mount to the plane as well as the 3”.

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  12 лет назад

    iMovie. It's awesome. The video white balance on my camera is malfunctioning badly, so disregard the green and magenta streaks, inaccurate flesh tones, etc.

  • @johnnyb.4665
    @johnnyb.4665 11 лет назад

    Also a few beginner Q's, if you have time:
    1 Total noob question, but how do you attach the wing to the fuselage? Do you literally just slip it under the rubber bands? How tight should they be?
    2 For the engine mount, my local store carries aluminum stock that is 1/8" thick by either 1" or 1.5" wide. Would this work well?
    3 What is the OD of the carbon inside the fuselage? If I do use wooden dowels for the wing and/or fuselage should I use the same approximate OD as the carbon?
    Thanks!

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  12 лет назад

    I have a video on metal motor mounts here on my channel. This one is 1mm titanium plate, recycled from saltwater swimming pool electrolytic chlorine generators, but some steel and aluminum plate can work pretty well too.

  • @thomassforza8990
    @thomassforza8990 7 лет назад

    I just completed my first foam plane and I find the cg under the rod in the wing which is one and three quarters inches back, I know in your video you say it should be one an a quarter inch back, what am I doing wrong? Tom

  • @tomepixel
    @tomepixel 11 лет назад

    Ed, how to I taper up bottom rear of noob tube ? with out making a mess
    leaving top alone thanks

  • @TheOrangeWacko
    @TheOrangeWacko 12 лет назад

    Ed, what software do you use to put custom captions and stuff for your videos? I am looking for some free and easy to use program to add to my videos, thanks!

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  11 лет назад

    That sounds like a plan. Post a video if you can.

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  12 лет назад

    I don't plan on working with Dow blue foam anytime soon.

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  12 лет назад

    Dollar Tree foamboard. See Armin Wing videos for details.

  • @227FLY
    @227FLY 12 лет назад

    What's this material?

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines  12 лет назад +1

    To get a decent thumbnail.

  • @justakidfrommaine
    @justakidfrommaine 12 лет назад +1

    Why do you put 5 minutes of the title at the end?

  • @RCllamadude
    @RCllamadude 12 лет назад

    lol, how many times did he say "tubular fuselage"?