@@razkable That’s the point. Even the cops in the helicopter couldn’t comprehend what the hell happened. Their only reaction was that they should call somebody. But when, how and whom was beyond their capacity at the moment.
Who sold the scene was Morgan Freeman. Looking shocked in the box, then at them, then the box, then at them. Then exclaiming, "California stay away from here. Whatever you hear. John Doe has the upper hand". Suspense on the edge of your seat at it's finest, when you saw it for the first time
@@lukekhalid896 Absolutely 100 💯 % agree! I was 18 & having sex with my girlfriend on the fold out couch 🛋 bed 🛏 but stopped to watch this scene of the movie 🎥!
The shot of the opened box always gets me; the flaps fluttering in the air, only the sound of the blowing wind, and a small drop of blood are all you need to let your imagination tell you there’s something horrible inside.
Yes. They put a 7lb weight in the box and a blonde wif with some blood on it. It's a common mistake that people say there was replica of her head in the box. Fincher stated many times there was never really had any intention of filming the head but still made a cast of her head just in case. The head of Paltrow was used in another film Contagion as an autopsy on paltrows corpse. But was never in the box.
You can also see a few strands of blonde hair. When I first saw this my heart literally dropped when I saw those strands of hair. I just could not believe something so brutal and heartbreaking just happened to Brad.
Backyard Music Feedback ever heard of the bystander effect? Yeah...it’s where everyone else expects everyone else to do something so no one does anything...this line is a great summation of that!
Actually, Brad wanted to kill Spacey but Morgan was originally slated to do it. I worked on this film. I don't remember the Al Pacino part, but it's possible.
I thought the original ending was actually somwhere between Mills shooting John Doe and the end of this clip. The scene of him in the car getting taken away and Somerset quoting Hemingway was added on.
imagination is scarier because the mind plays many tricks this and the ending of eyes wide shut haunt me because if you just show the gore then its just shock but it ends fast i mean its like jumpscares in a horror film
For those that aren’t aware, a fully detailed prop was created for Gwenyth Paltrow’s severed head, and it was meant to be shown on screen in the box. However, David Fincher decided to have it so that Gwenyths head isn’t shown on screen, instead the audience is forced to imagine what horrible sight Detective Somerset had to lay his eyes upon, which, quite frankly, is even more terrifying
The worst part is that there is still a horrific crime scene in Mill’s apartment waiting to be discovered, with ‘ENVY’ written on the wall in Tracy’s blood and her decapitated body on the floor or bed.
I only now noticed he fired his gun 6 times, and it's mentioned earlier in the film he fired his gun once, meaning he's only ever fired his gun 7 times
It’s so scary because in most of the film he kills people we don’t know. Tracy being the final victim, someone we have seen and the wife of the main character, it’s like he jumps off the screen and kills the audience. One of the best movies ever made.
Susan Kay agreed the dialogue is fantastic and spot on. It’s pretty timeless too. Here is something interesting about the ending - all 3 win and lose. John Doe and Mills both sin and pay the price (although John Doe is already facing life in prison - this final sin guarantees death instead of prison or mental hospital). Somerset turns out to be right all along - he was trying to prepare Mills to realize the world isn’t black and white - and it happens in the absolute worst way imaginable (a suspect has surrendered himself, unarmed, in custody - can you kill him if he murdered your loved one? John Doe turned the law on its head with this one and I’m still honestly debating if Mills goes to jail as a result) - basically a negative self fulfilling prophecy. Again one of the best dark movies ever made.
glad he didn't interfere..he kept his apathetic stance...he let mills decide...once you hear the whole child thing its like well now he really does get to choose...i can't stop him..thats not my right ...so freeman steps aside and waits
@@razkable I think it could have also been a good ending if he killed John Doe right there to save his partner future and avoid the "win" for the bad guy. The actual ending is more brutal and I like it, that said Mills could also have killed himself after that.
The reason why this movie is so twisted especially is the hellish realism to it combined with the fact that not only did John Doe win in the end, there was never a point where the heros even had the slightest upper hand on him.
@@isaacgleeth3609 I'd say they caught him off guard when they found his apartament and had somewhat of an upper hand then though. He wasn't expecting that.
Yeah this is something I just noticed as well. Morgan's character could have jumped in front of Brad's or tried to wrestle the gun from him but you can tell there's a part of him that would allow him to kill him and understand.
@@mellowyellow5427 Nah he was never going to physically restrain him. He just lost hope for the situation when Doe revealed she had been pregnant. It's cool how John Doe realizes the moment Pitt decides to shoot him.
One dumb thing I could never understand about this movie is why didn’t Somerset get his car and drive back there as fast as he can? Why did he have to run on foot? Just roll down the window, drive on the dirt, and scream at Mills to drop the gun. I guarantee, he probably would’ve saved about 10 seconds more before John Doe dropped those last few words.
I love how Somerset’s instinct is to stop Mills from killing Doe, like any good cop would, but after John Doe reveals the detail of the pregnancy even Somerset knew it was over. He still tries to do the right thing by preventing Mills from shooting, but his face just screams hopelessness. Fantastic acting from all three actors in this scene
OMG YES... Kevin Spacey was just being himself. The greatness of this movie is that all the actors were really being themselves. I saw an interview with Morgan Freeman where he was saying how much he enjoyed this movie. The actors all got along really well on the set. I think all of them should have gotten an award for this one. Well directed and acted. I can watch this movie a hundred times and still be floored.
It’s crazy because I honestly think Somerset was the one that sold John Doe the information not knowing he was the killer. Somerset was the only one who knew about the pregnancy
@@michaelbarrett27 but he looked at Somerset and said he didn't know implying that he knew that summers knew.. I honestly think it could be true because he told mills how the camera guys get to the crime scene so fast so he could know from experience.
I didn't say kill. They had belts and laces for tourniquet. Make his life a living hell so he's forced to bite off his own tongue to end it. He wouldn't be envy, he'd be regret.
@user-nw1je1ur6tI’ve got to say that the plot is amazing. I would be torn as to whether or not I should do anything. I’d want to kill him but what good would it do if he wins. I’d want to torture that man but he’d still win regardless. I’d want to let him suffer in prison or let him die on death row but what good will any of it do? He’s just won through and through.
@DeHymenator So you would go to prison along with Mills and Doe if he survives while perfectly embodying the final sin and giving John Doe exactly what he wants. The man burned his own fingerprints off. I think he's too far gone to care
This is still the most shell shocked ending to a movie I've ever seen. It also explains where all the blood on John Doe came from when he walked into the police station.
Great movie and even better acting and themes. My only gripe is I saw the ending from a mile away but brad's acting definitely carried it all the way to the masterfully crafted credits that unconventionally start from appearance, thoroughly described in a manner that makes us feel like we're reading part of John's manifest while scrolling in from the bottom rather than the top.
@@ZumaB The ending as you knew he would kill him? Or the entire ending before it was revealed? Because I don’t know what I was expecting but it certainly wasn’t that
@@ZumaB maybe I’m dumb, but I didn’t predict the ending at all. The turn of events completely took me by surprise. Particularly what was obvious to you about it?
@@Kiarinadia the murderer wanted to get killed. Him killing the detective’s wife and unborn child represented his envy for a normal family life like the detective. The final step of his plan was to make the detective fall under the sin of wrath, so blindly outraged that he would kill the murderer before giving him a fair trial. He won. The good guys lost hard
Brad agreed to do this film on the condition that he'll shoot the killer at the end, otherwise he won't do this film. Brad didn't want his character to be heroic. He wanted his character to make mistakes and wanted to break the larger than life image.
This was the original ending written in the screenplay, but the studios kept wanting to change it (because studios are pussies) but Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman and David Fincher all said they wouldn’t do the film if it ended some of the (stupid) ways the studio wanted it to.
Roger Kincaid studios and producers usually want to play it “safe” because they just want to do whatever will earn them more money out of the project. Whereas (good) directors and actors usually want the film to be as unique as possible and want to keep the story’s integrity.
Roger Kincaid back when I was in university, I would let my professor read a lot of my screenplays, the ones that I thought were my best, he usually thought was my best too, but a lot of the endings I had were bleak because a lot of my favourite films have bleak endings (e.g. oldboy, seven, No Country for Old Men). He said that the two scripts I wrote with those endings were my best but would be very hard to sell or get made especially as a first time writer because most studios want to do “safe” films, even more so when it’s with a first timer.
@@Slesaint17 And so the studios and producers would have been objectively wrong. Because if you "played it safe" and did not include this scene - did not tie a bow to John Doe's crimes and complete the 7 - then this movie would be unremarkable, no-one would remember it, it wouldn't have more than 8 million views on RUclips (at time of writing) and so on and so forth. It would have done worse at the box office and with VHS / DVD sales, and they would have objectively earnt less money for their risk aversion. They might think playing it safe earns them more money, but this is consistently not true in the history of all media. Great art earns the biggest money. The actors understood this. The "money men" unfortunately never do.
In the theater not a goddamn soul breathed during this scene. It was a shocking moment for all of us; the tension, the direction and the performances are astonishing
‘Oh, he didn’t know!’ Starting at 3:08 is probably the single most evil line in movie history. The way he pretends like he’s sorry he broke the news to Mills, while turning to Sommerset as if to commiserate, like they’re all friends, is just blood-curdling. It’s truly terrifying.
@@monkey3964 I got the notification, saw “Elmo,” and thought you were going to write, “That tickles,” or something as a joke. Which would indeed have been funny. But yes, Elmo Blatch’s line about how the best part of his double murder was that the innocent man he ALREADY victimized by murdering his wife was found guilty of 2 crimes he didn’t commit and sentenced to life in prison is evil as can be. And he says it while laughing like anyone listening would get an equally huge kick out of it.
This scene was so palpable, that I could get a taste of what it was like to be Mills in that scene. Full of anger confusion and agony. A true testament to the abilities of these three amazing actors
@@swisscheeseplease97 The part that bugged me the most about that last scene and still does to this day is...Why in all that is Holy, would Brad Pitt's character shoot John in the head first giving him a quick painless death? All the people he tortured and killed, including Brad's own wife, then all the mocking and goading, surely you would put a bullet in each knee, then his balls, then his gut, maybe each hand, wait a minute or 2 and THEN finish him off with a shot to the head? The result would have still been the same but at least he would have that sweet satisfaction that he made Doe suffer before he died. No human in that situation would let John Doe off the hook so easily...
everyone talking about brad pitt but I think Morgan Freeman's reaction to opening it is the most believable reaction. that almost coughing gasp and thousand-yard stare as his mind processes the situation. dude's been around awhile, I wouldnt be surprised if he's witnessed this kinda reaction in person
It's perfect. The way he almost whimpers, contrasted with how nonchalant he is at the DV murder scene at the start of the movie. A veteran homicide detective opening a mysterious box and whimpering like a child being surprised by a spider just sets the most sinister tone for the entirety of the scene.
@@tf4304 there are more movies than fight club which actually are underrated. Everybody has seen fight club and knows about. There are so many good performances of him
Brad nailed the hell outta that role. Seeing a man’s soul being torn apart as he’s crying then tries to hold it together for a couple seconds then break down again anger and sadness each taking a stab at him
A thought I have that further demonstrates how brilliant this movie is: it's insanely graphic, WITHOUT BEING GRAPHIC. The graphic nature is what you DIDN'T see. One of the problems about the progression of cinema, is that movies now feel like they have to show everything, all the blood and gore, so much now that we've become desensitized. But look at this movie, it was highly effective and graphic, yet you didn't really see much. You didn't SEE the results of Lust, but the man telling the story was enough. You didn't SEE what was in the box, but you knew, and not seeing it made it worse. Brilliant filmmaking.
MannequinStep No, that's just an image of her that flashed through his mind, which is what triggered his following actions. You can tell it's not "just" her head, looks like she's lying on a bed, plus her facial expression is not that of a person who was recently murdered. And, no blood. But blood was all over the box.
I was 18 when I went, with my best mate, to watch this at the movies. When we walked out, we barely knew what to say to each other. We were silent, but I knew we'd just watched an absolute classic. Phenomenal movie...
people comparing this to prisoners, shutter island, the sixth sense... and still calling them the 'best' movies endings ever? yall need to stop watching only what hollywood tells you
After Doe says "She begged for her life, and for the life of the baby inside of her", it was originally written in the script: "Oh, you didn't know" (directed at Mills.) But it was then BRILLIANTLY changed to "Oh, he didn't know" (directed at Somerset.) That little line pushed Mills over the edge so much harder by relegating him to a "third-person" position who had no inkling of his wife's pregnancy. Spacey's acting here just sends chills down my spine!
The image of Tracy right before Mills pulls the trigger and kills Doe is so underrated in this scene. In a scene full of memorable moments, I feel that one moment gets so overlooked by everything else in this fantastic scene
Exactly. Incredibly well timed and artistically effective. It says everything that needs to be said in an instant. It was a visual representation of the emergence of the emotion that was taking place in Mills heart in that moment. He was crushed that she was dead, and all it took was one split second of his remembrance of the purity of his love for her for him to make up his mind. She was his light. And John Doe simply had to pay for destroying his light. I tear up at that part every time. Any man who ever loved and taken care of a woman understands the power of this scene.
This scene is bone chilling... The look of terror in Brad Pitt’s face, and the suspense in this whole scene was far ahead of its time. Bless the director for this masterpiece of a movie.
Yeah I agree, i feel like in this exact moment, it would be less sadness and more sheer unadulterated mind fuckery which brad Pitt depicted well. He didn’t really know she was dead for sure, and even if he did I’m sure it would feel like a terrible nightmare in the moment anyways. Of course after though is when you start crying, when the depression kicks in, but not right away.
The fact even the cop in the freaking helicopter, which is supposed to be backup, is so freaked out he starts saying "Somebody call somebody" is amazing.
Perfect scene, perfect soundtrack, perfect acting, perfect voicing, perfect directing, perfect editing, everything here is brilliant. A scene to be shown in schools.
For the record, I'm all for fair justice, fair trial, and I'm against rampant police brutality but... ... this is one case I wouldn't mind the cops turning a blind eye to someone getting shot.
The word masterpiece gets thrown around a lot these days but this film totally deserves that title. There's not a single moment that you can change, it's perfect cinema.
Can 't stand this movie. I watched it when it came out and never thought it anything special. Now a days though it seems good because movies of today are so bad that mediocre movies now feel like masterpieces because we are so deprived of good cinema.
@@billybob4159 I'm sure not all movies today are bad, but like you said we don't know about those movies because we are having superhero movies pushed on us. Still, the heyday of movie making was the 70's through the 90's and now 95% of movies are bad and the 5% that aren't get 0 advertising so we miss those anyway.
It's the flash of his wife's face before he commits that gets me the most in this scene. That's exactly how your mind works in intense situations when emotions run high. All it takes is a flash in your mind, just the right memory to spark an explosion of rage or pain. Brilliant writing, directing and acting.
In my 20+ years of watching movies and shows,I have never seen a more thrilling,edge of the seat,haunting but yet satisfying in a way scene.This is a masterpiece.The score adds to the chills.
I ABSOLUTELY love how Doe finishes the final two sins, makes himself Envy and forces Mills to become Wrath, it's perfect how Mills became a victim in the crime he was supposed to solve, and it was all because of his own decision. This is easily the most powerful 5 minutes in cinema history.
@@KryptonPlayer u don't know that. Remember he surrendered himself. That shows that he had planned this way earlier and that he knew what he was supposed to do. So when he decided that the time was right he surrendered and executed the second part of his plan.
@@safwanalvi8887 like i said. not his original plan. he wanted to punish seven victim per sin and he even said they screwed up his plan by finding him unexpectedly. Mills was not apart of his plan. He finds his victims in advance. Mills was something he threw together last minute. Facts.
I had always heard about this scene, and the line “what’s in the box?” However, I never cared to spoil myself and looking up what it meant before actually taking the time to watch the film. Well tonight I did just that. I watched this movie, and I was completely taken aback by the ending. Probably one of the greatest scenes in all of cinematic history. Completely shocked at how it all came together, and in the end, the villain won.
@@Soradakanizat it's literally spelled out for you. It was his pregnant wife's decapitated head. The end goal of the killer (guy in orange in this clip) is to create a murder using each of the 7 deadly sins (hence the title ). The movie goes through the 2 detectives coming across these thematic murder scenes, gluttony, avarice, sloth, lust ect until the killer turns himself in before commiting (or so were lead to believe) the final 2 murders. He leads the detectives out here where he reveals his own sin of envy wherein he murdered the guys pregnant wife due to him hating their normal life, before finally revealing it to the guy here wherein the detective shoots him when he's not supposed to, becoming wrath and completing the cycle
johnnycoxville13 IMDb isn’t at all it basically takes user reviews and gets it main score there... we both know people will hate on a movie and give it bad review just to do it. Rotten tomatoes just gives a percentage on how many critics gave the movie a positive review and also gives user reviews for people who want to compare critics and audience opinions... don’t be one of those people who shit on anything that is mainstream lmfao IMDb is mainstream as fuck it’s literally owned by amazon.
Somerset knows that after John Doe tells Mills that she was pregnant that he can do nothing. That look around 3:12 is just one of pure defeat. Any man in Mills' position kills and there's not a thing you can say or do to prevent it. Somerset knows that even though he tries again, he knows it's over.
@@escopiliatese3623 which is who Mills was all along, a hot-tempered, irrational person who succumbed to killing out of anger turning him into the anti-hero of the story, a man who while may be innocent of murder and potentially manslaughter, will have to live with the infamy of his final actions and the loss of his innocent wife and unborn child.
@@andrewburgemeister6684 that's why he's wrath. John doe kills people who have sined. Makes them kill themselves. But you can't kill yourself with your own wrath. You kill with it. John Doe got the win in this movie
Yup, reminds me of the Injustice Universe, the Joker killed Superman's wife and unborn son. Superman killed him but he failed to realize: Even in death, the Joker won he broken the man of steel.
Why? It's so dumb. He didn't win even if he got what he wanted. Who cares about his psychotic religious BS, his life was ended and there's one less murderous POS on the planet. He didn't win shit
When I first watched this movie as a 13 year old boy, I had to turn away from the box opening scene as I couldn't bear the horror and the mental scaring of seeing the head. 24 years later, and plucking up the most amount of courage that I have ever had to in my life, I finally decided to watch the box being opened with my eyes open.
@@Moist_fridge123 They never directly showed or confirmed it. The closest was John saying he ''took her head instead''. It's fairly ambiguous, but also obvious at the same time.
This has to be one of the most tragic scenes in history. No matter what you do next the bad guy has already won whether you kill him or not it doesn’t matter because he’s already taken everything from you.
I’ve scene this movie countless times, and every time I’m yelling at Somerset to just stand in front John Doe, Mills likely won’t shoot if he does that.
For John Doe, all he wanted was to make the 7 sin related murders and, uh, that. He didn't really seem like he cared since, for him, he got it all done. That was the accomplishment, I suppose. Just get it done, and feel great that it all went to plan. I don't know for sure, though.
@@ASHTREY ooooh aren’t you very smart. The way I seen it was that there was one dead body, the wife and the second was soon the be John Doe. That’s the two
@kron n same literally just watched. I knew it was the wife when John Doe b4 he came in the police station the guy at the desk said to David his wife was calling him. I decipher lines to much in movies and tv shows 😭😂😂
I wasn't shocked.. i had a feeling John would kill Tracy.. 2 clues *Mills literally told him his name he even spelled it for him *Mills was so angry at the killer its actually annoying to watch. I dont know, i just had a feeling that Tracy would be involved Sometimes i hate being a moviegeek. I accidentally get the ending right
@@bill.yop1235 would he really go to prison? john beheaded his wife and killed his unborn child, when he realised that he wasnt sane person. i mean in country where i live probably he would go to prison because our law system is pretty broken, but how does it look in america? sory for my english if theres mistake
@@bill.yop1235 since this is America and given the circumstances, there is a very good chance the jury decided he wasn’t guilty. But whether he goes to prison or not, the psycho still won and Mills will never be happy again.
@@wrzesin8209You mention about the law being broken but ironically the exact opposite is why he would be trialled and found guilty, because regardless of his reasoning he still broke that law all the same. Although John Doe was insane and absolutely deserved to die a jury simply wouldn't recognise it that way and would still prosecute him all the same. Even if they sympathise with him their job is to recognise if a crime was committed and as far as they would be concerned David brutally shot and murdered an unarmed man. Even murdering scumbags are classed as victims if they themselves were to be murdered. He couldn't even use a self defence argument as there were several witnesses who could say that was a lie. He may ultimately have a reduced sentence or leniency from a judge due to his years of service on the force but he would absolutely go to prison regardless.
@@timidhobgoblin207 Isn't emotional state of the murderer considered in the law?? That if he is strongly emotionally impacted, his sentence is not as big??
Then why wasn't he nominated? Here's something you need to understand: A well-written character isn't perfectly interchangeable with a great actor/actress. Brad Pitt did a good job. A good job doesn't mean an exceptional job comparable to the finest thespians. There's another thing you need to learn too. Just being angry and full of rage is possibly the easiest emotion to convey. The likes of you are way too easily swayed by this. "Complexity" ?? Please tell me you're joking.
@Tortilla Turtle I agree. Denzel was first offered the role of Mills but declined it because he thought it was to demonic, he eventually regretted it. I think Denzel would have executed Mills role perfectly. Brad did not do it for me
I saw this in the theater. I remember after it ended and everyone was walking out. Not a person said a word. Like WTF did we just see? Such a powerful movie.
i miss going to the theaters back in the 90s. i was in my elementary years when this was shown so clearly i was watching toy story or any family friendly movies then. i did get to see these kind of movies though through cable tv because there were no restrictions at home when it comes to entertainment 😄
The near whole of Seven is set in the dark. Lots of shots at night, daytime shots are when its grey and raining. This climax scene amidst a bright desert and dazzling sunshine is horribly jarring and works perfectly at unsettling the viewer.
It's amazing that only Wrath gets to stay alive, completely empty of happiness and any sentiment really, at the end. A very symbolical punishment, the last 2 sins were handled very delicately.
i'm not sure but i think it meant that mills would be a suspect of doe's death and it was implied in 2:41 that mills would then get the death penalty. bottomline is that the series of murders of the 7 deadly sins would then be completed.
@@julietteferrars7739 How he would get the death penalty, because he killed the killer of his precious wife and unborn child? I don't think that there would be a jury or a judge that would sentence him to the death penalty.
@@marauderdz It was not a murder, so there can be no death penalty. He didn't plan it, he didn't want to do it, you have a ton of mitigating circumstances. He killed him out of passion. Few years in prison is max he would get I think, knowing whom he killed especially. There is few people who wouldn't have done the same thing, being at his place.
i feel the lust death is so sad...wish we found out they were a bad person..cause that just seems brutal..imagine doing that to someone else with no choice...i would tell the guy with the gun to just kill me..i could never kill someone that way myself
Some of the great movies can be watched over and over and over throughout your life and will entertain you every single time. This is one of those movies that you watch one time and experience the twists and scares and the horror and put it away and never watch it again.
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The fact that this is a murder mystery movie and theres only one onscreen murder and its done by a cop is truly brilliant.
Yeah, this movie is simply awesome.
Yeah, just police brutality
Ryu have you seen the fucking movie?
Good point bro
Ryu this is literally the stupidest fucking comment I’ve ever seen
I love Gwyneth Paltrow's acting in this scene. She's very talented.
I know, right? She just kinda, sort of 'stood' there.
I dunno how that worked out but she was superb.
I know right she really went a head in her career as actress...Thanks for the comments ☺ ..and to the few why must you ruin a good running joke 😞
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😂 dead...literally
*KEVIN SPACEY WENT FOR THE HEAD*
"Somebody call somebody" must be the most underrated quote in cinema history.
yeah but it makes no sense
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That’s the point. Even the cops in the helicopter couldn’t comprehend what the hell happened. Their only reaction was that they should call somebody. But when, how and whom was beyond their capacity at the moment.
@@simonmajoros15agreed. It made the moment seem more realistic as they were in shock.
Who sold the scene was Morgan Freeman. Looking shocked in the box, then at them, then the box, then at them. Then exclaiming, "California stay away from here. Whatever you hear. John Doe has the upper hand". Suspense on the edge of your seat at it's finest, when you saw it for the first time
@@lukekhalid896 Absolutely 100 💯 % agree! I was 18 & having sex with my girlfriend on the fold out couch 🛋 bed 🛏 but stopped to watch this scene of the movie 🎥!
The shot of the opened box always gets me; the flaps fluttering in the air, only the sound of the blowing wind, and a small drop of blood are all you need to let your imagination tell you there’s something horrible inside.
It’s so perfectly subtle yet you just know …
Also the wet sound when he opens it...just perfect
You can see some of her hair 😢
Yes. They put a 7lb weight in the box and a blonde wif with some blood on it.
It's a common mistake that people say there was replica of her head in the box. Fincher stated many times there was never really had any intention of filming the head but still made a cast of her head just in case. The head of Paltrow was used in another film Contagion as an autopsy on paltrows corpse.
But was never in the box.
You can also see a few strands of blonde hair. When I first saw this my heart literally dropped when I saw those strands of hair. I just could not believe something so brutal and heartbreaking just happened to Brad.
"somebody call somebody"
- guy in charge
This is pretty close to reality actually.
“I don’t understand why don’t you call somebody?”
-Larry David
Please, I'm only an elected official, I CAN'T make decisions by myself!
And get me somebody while I’m waiting! 😂
Backyard Music Feedback ever heard of the bystander effect? Yeah...it’s where everyone else expects everyone else to do something so no one does anything...this line is a great summation of that!
My co-worker and me used to re-enact this scene whenever we got supplies in a box for our store.
lol
Oh whats in the boooaaaaaaaaaaaax!!!???
Um...
@@TheWatchernator BUT WHAT'S IN THE BOX!
so whos the one all tied up
I love how they never show any part of the head, just the box, and it still has such a powerful effect.
I’d say it has a Greater impact like this
I thought it was a fetus
Less is more.
Inexorable Videos you can makeout the top of her head for a brief moment
"It's my d*** in a box." -The lonely island
That's 4 oscars right there in one scene. Terrific actors 👏
I guess only very few people get that joke.
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Explain it to me@@puper84
@@puper84can someone explain?
@@NoctuloConElEnfasis-6.5 there is a fourth person's head in that box...
It's great that Brad Pitt fought for this ending. Apparently the studio execs wanted to change it because it was too dark.
Actually, Brad wanted to kill Spacey but Morgan was originally slated to do it. I worked on this film. I don't remember the Al Pacino part, but it's possible.
@Michael Albaladejo You're joking , right??? He's good in action movies , but this kind of stuff. Nope.
Schwarzenegger was offered the roll before Pitt. “She begged for life lieutenant.” Arnold replies, “Fuck You Asshole”
Also Morgan Freeman, They both said they would quit if the ending is changed
I thought the original ending was actually somwhere between Mills shooting John Doe and the end of this clip. The scene of him in the car getting taken away and Somerset quoting Hemingway was added on.
"Somebody call somebody" gotta be the best movie quote ever
Reminds me of Spaceballs:
"Do something!"
"Do something!"
man, i never paid attention until now, hahahah, thats so fucked up the guy actually said " somebody ... hu.... call somebody ! " hhahahaha
I heard it as I was reading this lmaoooo
SuperMrAlpha “Hello, is this Dominos Pizza?”
Hahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂
This scene was really a head of its time
I see what you did there...
Well I suppose we could say that Gwyneth Paltrow was really... cut out for this movie.
+First Last So,what was actually in the box?
Braniszláv Roczkó A penis.
+Braniszláv Roczkó
His wife's head.
I love the way he says “what’s going on over there” you can hear that his mind is moving in a million different directions.
3:22 the way he abruptly stops crying and starts crying again gets me every time.
。・*『 Demon 』*・。 pain and sadness.
Demon Knight ツ
a n g u i s h
From not okay to "I'm fine" back to not okay
that's some great acting
Real talk.
No blood no gore and still the most haunting scene I have ever witnessed
imagination is scarier because the mind plays many tricks this and the ending of eyes wide shut haunt me because if you just show the gore then its just shock but it ends fast i mean its like jumpscares in a horror film
you’ve never seen requiem for a dream? lol
@@trashboat6215 disturbing but great movie. The end is basically horror.
Blood on the box
S V the scariest thing is what isn’t shown and our own imaginations running riot
When asked “What line do your fans quote most when they see you?”, Brad Pitt said that they usually yell “What’s in the box?!”
Well he can't talk about the real line because of the first two rules....
Sherlock Holmes like what?
@@Somespideronline I can't talk about it either...
Marion Pastor he’s reciting Fight Club
@@barmeloxanthony724 dawg you just broke the first two rules
For those that aren’t aware, a fully detailed prop was created for Gwenyth Paltrow’s severed head, and it was meant to be shown on screen in the box. However, David Fincher decided to have it so that Gwenyths head isn’t shown on screen, instead the audience is forced to imagine what horrible sight Detective Somerset had to lay his eyes upon, which, quite frankly, is even more terrifying
I almost want to see it, but at the same time I don't...
@@Raelynn-nl5rd They used the prop in Contagion in 2010 for the scene where Gwyneth’s character is being autopsied. Fun fact!
@@Joaquin602001 wow!
Although, her face does flash on screen for a split second before Mills shoots Doe.
@@user-lb9xw4xf2q it’s a shot of her from earlier in the movie, not of her head in the box.
The worst part is that there is still a horrific crime scene in Mill’s apartment waiting to be discovered, with ‘ENVY’ written on the wall in Tracy’s blood and her decapitated body on the floor or bed.
That's gotta break him.
Dude that’s really horrifying
I don't understand the ending....I thought John doe was killing each sin so why didn't wrath or Brad Pitt die?
@@deepanshumolasi7151 Perhaps he's gambling on either the death penalty or suicide.
Why would he write envy there?
I only now noticed he fired his gun 6 times, and it's mentioned earlier in the film he fired his gun once, meaning he's only ever fired his gun 7 times
@Chris LMFAO
@Chris 'bout tree fiddy
@Chris 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂yooo im done
@Chris I just measured my weiner in inches.. and well, you can probably guess how many it came out to be..
Omg I was reading this while pooping, and I checked afterwards and there were 7 small turds. 7!
If listening to Morgan Freeman won’t calm you down nothing won’t
Alex Lee not unless u got someone like Kevin Spacey pushing your buttons on purpose
nothing will*
That sentence is literally a contradiction
Double negative.
Nothing does for me.
For some reason it's so memorable the way Morgan Freeman says, "John Doe has the upper hand"
It sets up the feeling you know something bad is happening … it’s such a vibe.
Definitely. There's something so old school about the way he says it.
What I love about this scene is how shakey the camera is when it's focused on David, and very stable and still on John.
Oh wow. That is so awesome. Thanks for pointing that out. Damn, I didn’t notice that at all.
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@@davidrubio9753 last I looked the comment had 666 likes
Wow. The technicalities
As a husband and father i can say with authority.
This scene is scarier than any horror movie.
I'm neither a father nor a husband and i can say this scene is the scariest and most haunting scene ever
As a dildo repairman I can say this is scarier than any horror movie.
でッ I bet you're that little kid that says that marvel films are underrated.
It’s so scary because in most of the film he kills people we don’t know. Tracy being the final victim, someone we have seen and the wife of the main character, it’s like he jumps off the screen and kills the audience. One of the best movies ever made.
Susan Kay agreed the dialogue is fantastic and spot on. It’s pretty timeless too. Here is something interesting about the ending - all 3 win and lose. John Doe and Mills both sin and pay the price (although John Doe is already facing life in prison - this final sin guarantees death instead of prison or mental hospital). Somerset turns out to be right all along - he was trying to prepare Mills to realize the world isn’t black and white - and it happens in the absolute worst way imaginable (a suspect has surrendered himself, unarmed, in custody - can you kill him if he murdered your loved one? John Doe turned the law on its head with this one and I’m still honestly debating if Mills goes to jail as a result) - basically a negative self fulfilling prophecy. Again one of the best dark movies ever made.
3:08 when Doe said "Oh, he didn't know" freeman was like "aight looks like we're done here."
Just shoot the fucker so I can start my paperwork
glad he didn't interfere..he kept his apathetic stance...he let mills decide...once you hear the whole child thing its like well now he really does get to choose...i can't stop him..thats not my right ...so freeman steps aside and waits
So I'm wrong for thinking Morgan's character knocked her up?? Lol
@@gobbleswells2883 that's what I thought Doe meant
@@razkable I think it could have also been a good ending if he killed John Doe right there to save his partner future and avoid the "win" for the bad guy.
The actual ending is more brutal and I like it, that said Mills could also have killed himself after that.
Facilitated by the writer and director in equal measure, all three actors hit the apex in the scene. Their timings was flawless!
The “fragile” labels just make the scene creepier.
No its french
ryder mccall fragile express
@Nathan Sanchez yes but we all know what it is
The reason why this movie is so twisted especially is the hellish realism to it combined with the fact that not only did John Doe win in the end, there was never a point where the heros even had the slightest upper hand on him.
Even when they think they got him when John Doe turned himself in.
@@isaacgleeth3609 I'd say they caught him off guard when they found his apartament and had somewhat of an upper hand then though. He wasn't expecting that.
@@ervinpajazetovic9834 True. But then he rearranged his plan just for them. Or should I say, 'just for Mills'?
He had already murdered Tracy when he turned himself in, that's what's so fucked up.
John Doe (ake Spacey) didn't win in the end, he is room temp!
One of those rare films where the villain won in the end.
Man I'm so glad I finally decided to watch this film, definitely one of those that will stay with me for life.
not really.
@@KryptonPlayer How did Doe NOT win?
Wrong turn
@@KryptonPlayer His plan was for him to be Envy, and David to be Wrath.
He won.
Morgan Freeman had a chance of resolving the situation until the baby thing dropped. You can see the situation change instantaneously.
Yeah this is something I just noticed as well. Morgan's character could have jumped in front of Brad's or tried to wrestle the gun from him but you can tell there's a part of him that would allow him to kill him and understand.
@@mellowyellow5427 Nah he was never going to physically restrain him. He just lost hope for the situation when Doe revealed she had been pregnant. It's cool how John Doe realizes the moment Pitt decides to shoot him.
One dumb thing I could never understand about this movie is why didn’t Somerset get his car and drive back there as fast as he can? Why did he have to run on foot? Just roll down the window, drive on the dirt, and scream at Mills to drop the gun.
I guarantee, he probably would’ve saved about 10 seconds more before John Doe dropped those last few words.
@@osmanyousif7849he wasn’t thinking straight is probably the only answer other than it wouldn’t look so good on film seeing him drive rather than run.
@@mellowyellow5427I think it wouldn't be right to restrain Pitt's character in this situation
I love how Somerset’s instinct is to stop Mills from killing Doe, like any good cop would, but after John Doe reveals the detail of the pregnancy even Somerset knew it was over. He still tries to do the right thing by preventing Mills from shooting, but his face just screams hopelessness.
Fantastic acting from all three actors in this scene
Yep, a masterclass all round.
Johan.... who was the real Monster?
He could have just tackled Mills and just knock the gun away.
i knew i am the only one who thought about se7en watching monster
John Doe reminds me a lot of johan
Best delivered line ever “oh...he didn’t know”
OMG YES... Kevin Spacey was just being himself. The greatness of this movie is that all the actors were really being themselves. I saw an interview with Morgan Freeman where he was saying how much he enjoyed this movie. The actors all got along really well on the set. I think all of them should have gotten an award for this one. Well directed and acted. I can watch this movie a hundred times and still be floored.
@@kinGsaL1515 THE NEW AGE OUTLAWSSSS TOAD DOGG AND BILLY GUNN AHAHHA
@@kinGsaL1515 You're awesome for making this reference lol
Yeah.....dangerous people are coming for me...I am so angry.
Kevin Spacey it's the MVP on this film!
This scene is like God (Freeman) and the Devil (Spacey) playing a game for the soul of a mortal (Pitt)
😂😂😂😂
Underrated comment.
@Charlie Austin Troy?
@Charlie Austin Yeah I knew that but he was Aquiles there :S
Even Kevin spacey is wearing red like the devil
Imagine being an officer in the helicopter, they must be confused as hell.
You hear California on the binoculars say “WHAT THE FUCK?!” I assume he saw the head
Nah the detectives are mic'd up so they hear all of it but that doesn't change the fact that it's a wild turn of events.
"Ah, he didn't know." I didn't realize how brilliant this line was
why?
@@alejocastro6150
"Ah, you didn't know!": taunting Detective Mills
"Ah, he didn't know!": taunting Dective Mills and hinting Somerset betrayed Mills too.
It’s crazy because I honestly think Somerset was the one that sold John Doe the information not knowing he was the killer. Somerset was the only one who knew about the pregnancy
@@ben9262 John Doe knew about the baby because Tracy revealed it to him when she begged for both her life and the baby's.
@@michaelbarrett27 but he looked at Somerset and said he didn't know implying that he knew that summers knew.. I honestly think it could be true because he told mills how the camera guys get to the crime scene so fast so he could know from experience.
The flash of his wife is when something finally broke inside of him.
the realization she was pregnant broke him..without that little detail he does not go full wrath
@@razkable Regardless, this is the part where he totally lost it.
Yeah, that was his soul breaking
I think the wrath is- of a husband & a father both.
Editing-wise, do you think that was exactly a single frame? ie 1/24th of a second?
"somebody call somebody" captures how everyone must've felt during that whole case.
People make fun of the line but it really captures how completely fucked everything is
@@RamixTheRed yep, people are panicking the fuck out
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"He didn't know." Sick little smile.
I would have handed Brad pit that poket knife I used to open the box. We'd see how long that smile would last.
I didn't say kill. They had belts and laces for tourniquet. Make his life a living hell so he's forced to bite off his own tongue to end it.
He wouldn't be envy, he'd be regret.
@user-nw1je1ur6tI’ve got to say that the plot is amazing. I would be torn as to whether or not I should do anything. I’d want to kill him but what good would it do if he wins. I’d want to torture that man but he’d still win regardless. I’d want to let him suffer in prison or let him die on death row but what good will any of it do? He’s just won through and through.
@DeHymenator So you would go to prison along with Mills and Doe if he survives while perfectly embodying the final sin and giving John Doe exactly what he wants.
The man burned his own fingerprints off. I think he's too far gone to care
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The "Oh...he didn't know..." and the slight smirk he does was the nail in the coffin, pure absolute evil in display. Best thriller of all time.
Yep that’s the moment he won
Somerset's face at that moment was also defeated. He knew there was nothing he could've done
That’s one opinion
i think its the unborn child whats in the box….
What no he would've told it then
This is still the most shell shocked ending to a movie I've ever seen.
It also explains where all the blood on John Doe came from when he walked into the police station.
And the unidentified victim as well
Great movie and even better acting and themes. My only gripe is I saw the ending from a mile away but brad's acting definitely carried it all the way to the masterfully crafted credits that unconventionally start from appearance, thoroughly described in a manner that makes us feel like we're reading part of John's manifest while scrolling in from the bottom rather than the top.
@@ZumaB seeing the ending shows you're intelligence , doesn't make the movie any less good.
@@ZumaB The ending as you knew he would kill him? Or the entire ending before it was revealed? Because I don’t know what I was expecting but it certainly wasn’t that
@@ZumaB maybe I’m dumb, but I didn’t predict the ending at all. The turn of events completely took me by surprise. Particularly what was obvious to you about it?
The face Kevin made while saying the line "Oh, he didn't know!'
Freakingly amazing expressions of a psychopath.
Probably wasn't difficult for him lol
I hated John Doe, but after that, I truly despised him.
imagine after shooting john doe, he went to look what's in the box to confirm and it's just a dildo
@@AustinNooe right given all the crap he’s done that’s come out….
Spacey is one of the best actors on earth. Too bad about his current problems.
I rewatched my blu-ray of this a couple weeks ago and here in 2024, it's still a depressing and great movie
This ending still gives me chills. Easily one of the greatest endings of any movie. Ever.
*worst
@@David-zx8fc the villain wins yes, but the shock lots of people felt after seeing makes it great
@@David-zx8fc the bad guy winning so hard makes this movie so tragically amazing
@@hippobreath3703 what do you mean - this man shot is not the murderer ? I sow it quite a few years ago and can't remember the ending.
@@Kiarinadia the murderer wanted to get killed. Him killing the detective’s wife and unborn child represented his envy for a normal family life like the detective. The final step of his plan was to make the detective fall under the sin of wrath, so blindly outraged that he would kill the murderer before giving him a fair trial. He won. The good guys lost hard
“John Doe has the upper hand” one of the most chilling lines
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“This won’t be your most memorable role in your careers, but this movie will never be forgotten.” -David Fincher
¨Apples are better than pears¨ - Eva to Adam.
@@intensify5046 keep ur mouth shut u incel liar.
I agree about the second part
@@intensify5046Personally, I disagree. Apples are good, but pears are so much better
@@DoratTheKillernah pears are good, but apples are so much better lol
That "Oh, he didn't know" kills me!! the way Kevin Spacey delivered that line was unbelievably chilling... A very memorable and unforgettable movie...
I don't want to know what's inside.
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Holy shit ahaha
That "oh, he didn't know" line gave me chills. Legendary.
sometimes i hate how we cant ever experience anything for the first time again.
Excellent writing
At that moment Somerset knew it was over too
Brad agreed to do this film on the condition that he'll shoot the killer at the end, otherwise he won't do this film. Brad didn't want his character to be heroic. He wanted his character to make mistakes and wanted to break the larger than life image.
This was the original ending written in the screenplay, but the studios kept wanting to change it (because studios are pussies) but Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman and David Fincher all said they wouldn’t do the film if it ended some of the (stupid) ways the studio wanted it to.
@@Slesaint17 - They all knew better than the producers.
Roger Kincaid studios and producers usually want to play it “safe” because they just want to do whatever will earn them more money out of the project. Whereas (good) directors and actors usually want the film to be as unique as possible and want to keep the story’s integrity.
Roger Kincaid back when I was in university, I would let my professor read a lot of my screenplays, the ones that I thought were my best, he usually thought was my best too, but a lot of the endings I had were bleak because a lot of my favourite films have bleak endings (e.g. oldboy, seven, No Country for Old Men). He said that the two scripts I wrote with those endings were my best but would be very hard to sell or get made especially as a first time writer because most studios want to do “safe” films, even more so when it’s with a first timer.
@@Slesaint17 And so the studios and producers would have been objectively wrong.
Because if you "played it safe" and did not include this scene - did not tie a bow to John Doe's crimes and complete the 7 - then this movie would be unremarkable, no-one would remember it, it wouldn't have more than 8 million views on RUclips (at time of writing) and so on and so forth.
It would have done worse at the box office and with VHS / DVD sales, and they would have objectively earnt less money for their risk aversion.
They might think playing it safe earns them more money, but this is consistently not true in the history of all media. Great art earns the biggest money.
The actors understood this. The "money men" unfortunately never do.
In the theater not a goddamn soul breathed during this scene. It was a shocking moment for all of us; the tension, the direction and the performances are astonishing
I was actually….disappointed, if anything.
Maybe it’s cause I already knew how it would end…so it wasn’t a shock for me…
‘Oh, he didn’t know!’ Starting at 3:08 is probably the single most evil line in movie history. The way he pretends like he’s sorry he broke the news to Mills, while turning to Sommerset as if to commiserate, like they’re all friends, is just blood-curdling. It’s truly terrifying.
It’s right up there with Elmo’s “that’s the best part” from The Shawshank redemption
@@monkey3964 I got the notification, saw “Elmo,” and thought you were going to write, “That tickles,” or something as a joke. Which would indeed have been funny. But yes, Elmo Blatch’s line about how the best part of his double murder was that the innocent man he ALREADY victimized by murdering his wife was found guilty of 2 crimes he didn’t commit and sentenced to life in prison is evil as can be. And he says it while laughing like anyone listening would get an equally huge kick out of it.
This scene was so palpable, that I could get a taste of what it was like to be Mills in that scene. Full of anger confusion and agony. A true testament to the abilities of these three amazing actors
@@swisscheeseplease97 The part that bugged me the most about that last scene and still does to this day is...Why in all that is Holy, would Brad Pitt's character shoot John in the head first giving him a quick painless death? All the people he tortured and killed, including Brad's own wife, then all the mocking and goading, surely you would put a bullet in each knee, then his balls, then his gut, maybe each hand, wait a minute or 2 and THEN finish him off with a shot to the head? The result would have still been the same but at least he would have that sweet satisfaction that he made Doe suffer before he died.
No human in that situation would let John Doe off the hook so easily...
The way his face kind of comes to life, his eyes widen and delivers that line. Gives me chills every time I’ve seen it
everyone talking about brad pitt but I think Morgan Freeman's reaction to opening it is the most believable reaction. that almost coughing gasp and thousand-yard stare as his mind processes the situation. dude's been around awhile, I wouldnt be surprised if he's witnessed this kinda reaction in person
It really was a damn good reaction
imagine after shooting john doe, he went to look what's in the box to confirm and it's just a dildo
Morgan Freeman is always a great actor.
“gah!”
It's perfect. The way he almost whimpers, contrasted with how nonchalant he is at the DV murder scene at the start of the movie. A veteran homicide detective opening a mysterious box and whimpering like a child being surprised by a spider just sets the most sinister tone for the entirety of the scene.
one of the few movies where the villain wins
Ben101 nope lol get that child nonsense out of here
@@BenDaGoat pew pew avengers boom big explosion
@@BenDaGoat dont bother arguing with people that cant see art in different genres of film
@@MM-hi Do you seriously consider Avengers movies Art? its a fucking popcorn flick, feel good movies when the good guys win at the end as usual.
@@glennhagstedt sry mr. edgelord but there are tons of good movies where the good guys win.
Also Mcu had some really great movies and shit ones too.
I really like this movie, and the fact that the villain wins just makes it even more chilling. Kevin spacey really played john doe well.
Brads acting in this scene has earned him so much respect from me.
Misfortune Follows watch him in some other films like fight club... there are a lot of brad Pitt scenes that are almost as good as this one.
@@tf4304 there are more movies than fight club which actually are underrated. Everybody has seen fight club and knows about. There are so many good performances of him
Rehan Verma I’m just saying that’s a favorite. Once upon a time is good too. As well as the curious case. Money ball. Hell even Snatch
leaving the theater still disturbed after seeing this he was officially in my top 5 fave actors. Freeman and Spacey were already titans.
I used to consider him just another man-toy that women (and men) love to gawk at, but he’s obviously much more talented than just a pretty face.
Brad nailed the hell outta that role. Seeing a man’s soul being torn apart as he’s crying then tries to hold it together for a couple seconds then break down again anger and sadness each taking a stab at him
Mag dump dat mofo
@@leftifornian2066 😂😂
The emotions remind me of discovering the worst thing ever had happened to me ..: especially that anger.
Ah gawwwwd
But this scene can show how a man needs to be challenged in ordered to show his real colors
A thought I have that further demonstrates how brilliant this movie is: it's insanely graphic, WITHOUT BEING GRAPHIC. The graphic nature is what you DIDN'T see. One of the problems about the progression of cinema, is that movies now feel like they have to show everything, all the blood and gore, so much now that we've become desensitized. But look at this movie, it was highly effective and graphic, yet you didn't really see much. You didn't SEE the results of Lust, but the man telling the story was enough. You didn't SEE what was in the box, but you knew, and not seeing it made it worse. Brilliant filmmaking.
ROCKaholic True story. I don't like movies nowadays, all the gore makes them unappealing. Se7en really is a masterpiece.
That's a great violin you're playing.
mylobage thank you?
+ROCKaholic You do see what was in the box, their is a split second random flash on screen of the contents of the box at 3:57.
MannequinStep No, that's just an image of her that flashed through his mind, which is what triggered his following actions. You can tell it's not "just" her head, looks like she's lying on a bed, plus her facial expression is not that of a person who was recently murdered. And, no blood. But blood was all over the box.
I was 18 when I went, with my best mate, to watch this at the movies. When we walked out, we barely knew what to say to each other. We were silent, but I knew we'd just watched an absolute classic. Phenomenal movie...
Brad Pitt should’ve won an academy award just for this scene alone. What a powerful moment.
TheChubbyd07 I mean idk the way he said “OH GOD” sounded straight out of a parody film
Carl Wheezer probably because this set the precedent for oh gods. Everytime someone shouts that it may as well be a parody of this performance
Bean true lol
It's sad he won for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Smh
Babu Gavhane I mean he deserved it this year too so not really sad. Lol
Nothing can surpass the last 40 minutes of this movie. Best ending in movie history in my opinion.
this and The Sixth Sense, and I think they were both released within a few years of each other....
I would argue the ending of Prisoners...but yeah, this is a great ending too no doubt.
shutter island twist is up there too. I wasnt able to guess that one whereas I got very close with Seven - still absolutely brilliant tho
The entire film Seven is a masterpiece.
people comparing this to prisoners, shutter island, the sixth sense... and still calling them the 'best' movies endings ever? yall need to stop watching only what hollywood tells you
After Doe says "She begged for her life, and for the life of the baby inside of her", it was originally written in the script: "Oh, you didn't know" (directed at Mills.) But it was then BRILLIANTLY changed to "Oh, he didn't know" (directed at Somerset.) That little line pushed Mills over the edge so much harder by relegating him to a "third-person" position who had no inkling of his wife's pregnancy. Spacey's acting here just sends chills down my spine!
R Y yep. Great point. Completely changes the dynamic of Mill's thoughts.
R Y awesome insider info man! Thanks
So what? It's capturing a situation. Why does everything have to be "real" for some people in order for them to be entertained by it?
Billy Smith well spotted. Thanks for clarifying for those people who thought it was a fucking documentary
+Billy Smith Really?!
These three actors absolutely did an amazing job with this movie, Brad Pitt's facial reactions looked so real, truly a master of his craft.
Also the, somebody call somebody guy.
The image of Tracy right before Mills pulls the trigger and kills Doe is so underrated in this scene. In a scene full of memorable moments, I feel that one moment gets so overlooked by everything else in this fantastic scene
when it flashes its exactly 7 minutes of runtime left
Yes the editing of that is fantastic 😍
that hits hard, having a flashback of your beautiful wife after finding out this guy put her head in a box while she was pregnant :(
Editing-wise, do you think that was exactly a single frame? ie 1/24th of a second?
Exactly. Incredibly well timed and artistically effective. It says everything that needs to be said in an instant. It was a visual representation of the emergence of the emotion that was taking place in Mills heart in that moment. He was crushed that she was dead, and all it took was one split second of his remembrance of the purity of his love for her for him to make up his mind. She was his light. And John Doe simply had to pay for destroying his light. I tear up at that part every time. Any man who ever loved and taken care of a woman understands the power of this scene.
This scene is bone chilling... The look of terror in Brad Pitt’s face, and the suspense in this whole scene was far ahead of its time. Bless the director for this masterpiece of a movie.
may be we r backwards..
Yeah I agree, i feel like in this exact moment, it would be less sadness and more sheer unadulterated mind fuckery which brad Pitt depicted well. He didn’t really know she was dead for sure, and even if he did I’m sure it would feel like a terrible nightmare in the moment anyways. Of course after though is when you start crying, when the depression kicks in, but not right away.
Yep
Yep, David Fincher. He also directed Fight Club
Ahead of its time? No.
The flash David sees of his wife’s innocent face broke me, gut wrenchingly painful. Definitely one of the greatest thrillers of all time.
3:57
It's only Gwyneth Paltrow. Tony Starks love interest.
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In my opinion the single greatest the thriller of all time.
@@Damien_Priestyes, that’s actually Peeper Potts!
They don't make movies like this no more
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@SkuYguY_ Is that a movie?
@@TheFatMan yes it's my favorite it's about you
4:37 “Ah Christ, somebody call somebody”
i use this all the time at work when there is a crisis
Aly Agha yes? What’s so weird about it people use it all the time??
I love that line because, honestly, who DO you call after this?
Dani0005 who said it was weird, it’s funny because of the situation they are in.
How to pass responsibility when you have no idea.
The fact even the cop in the freaking helicopter, which is supposed to be backup, is so freaked out he starts saying "Somebody call somebody" is amazing.
The way he says "John Doe has the upper-hand" like it was forced out of him, gives me chills every time
Perfect description of how that line is delivered
@@SaturnBoy87 and hes quivering.
Nice Black mesa logo
Exactly- all 3 are great in this scene but Morgan Freeman starting to panic is really shocking
Perfect scene, perfect soundtrack, perfect acting, perfect voicing, perfect directing, perfect editing, everything here is brilliant. A scene to be shown in schools.
For the record, I'm all for fair justice, fair trial, and I'm against rampant police brutality but...
... this is one case I wouldn't mind the cops turning a blind eye to someone getting shot.
Except "rampant" police brutality doesn't exist. But way to drink media Kool-Aid.
Nah man if you kill him you’re granting him the sweet release of death he doesn’t get to suffer that way
@@IndyMotoRider lmao u keep reckin these fools👌
@@IndyMotoRider lmao u keep reckin these fools👌
@@IndyMotoRider lmao u keep reckin these fools👌
The word masterpiece gets thrown around a lot these days but this film totally deserves that title. There's not a single moment that you can change, it's perfect cinema.
@Mark Green yes it is kid
Only Morgan Freeman can deliver the "Oh I don't know" line.
Can 't stand this movie. I watched it when it came out and never thought it anything special. Now a days though it seems good because movies of today are so bad that mediocre movies now feel like masterpieces because we are so deprived of good cinema.
@@vaskylark I wouldn’t say all movies nowadays are bad just a lot of the dumb ones get all the publicity like avengers and whatnot
@@billybob4159 I'm sure not all movies today are bad, but like you said we don't know about those movies because we are having superhero movies pushed on us. Still, the heyday of movie making was the 70's through the 90's and now 95% of movies are bad and the 5% that aren't get 0 advertising so we miss those anyway.
The colour grading for this film had such an impact. This scene especially, the tan and warm colour beautifully juxtaposes the cold terror.
The color grading was added years later for the Collector's Edition 2-disc DVD. The original release had a more standard color palette.
*JUXTAPOSES*
@Mutated Pearl *METAMORPHOSIS*
Color palette is pure Fincher!
oh shut up you creep. stop trying to sound like an expert.
Brad's acting here is brilliant. His heart got ripped out fr.
Kevin Spacey is one hell of an actor...flawless scene.
"What's in the box?!"
"Goop products."
"Nooo!"
“You... you made the Goop company a suspect with the whole sex case”
*Goop producer.
Jasmine and lotus flower infused foot balm, detective.
Oh god!
LMAO dude!😂
The writer was really thinking outside the box.
Savage. Funny, but savage. The way humor should be.
Aleksander Pagels nice
What’s outsideee de baaaaax
good cuz i doubt there was much thinking going on inside the box
Nikki14cr
Actually inside the bax there are lot of thoughts and idea since there is a brain lmao lol
It's the flash of his wife's face before he commits that gets me the most in this scene. That's exactly how your mind works in intense situations when emotions run high. All it takes is a flash in your mind, just the right memory to spark an explosion of rage or pain. Brilliant writing, directing and acting.
In my 20+ years of watching movies and shows,I have never seen a more thrilling,edge of the seat,haunting but yet satisfying in a way scene.This is a masterpiece.The score adds to the chills.
Do you want to see Morgan Freeman slap Kathy Baker? ruclips.net/video/pKuzwb3UkFg/видео.html
@@thebrownfilmshow no
imagine after shooting john doe, he went to look what's in the box to confirm and it's just a dildo
The only other scene to leave me completely speechless with my jaw dropped and my heart racing is the Red Wedding from Game of Thrones.
@@derekmann8239 I cried during that scene
Spacey's line 'he didn't know' is just so sinister! Love this movie!
but whats really in the box
Cbnm 91201 "Her pretty head"
*WE HAVE THE SAME NAME MINE IS CHLOE ALSO BUT IM A BOY*
+Cbnm 91201 HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
***** *YOU MAKE ME FEEL BAD*
Best proof that imagination is more powerful in creating horror than showing the horror.
well if you’re just a regular movie goer who doesn’t understand or appreciate the art, probably prefer the second option.
3:44 i can't tell you in words how incredible his acting was here my god
I ABSOLUTELY love how Doe finishes the final two sins, makes himself Envy and forces Mills to become Wrath, it's perfect how Mills became a victim in the crime he was supposed to solve, and it was all because of his own decision. This is easily the most powerful 5 minutes in cinema history.
not really. they screwed up his plan so he had to come up with something else. Hardly a win because it wasn't his original plan.
@@KryptonPlayer u don't know that. Remember he surrendered himself. That shows that he had planned this way earlier and that he knew what he was supposed to do. So when he decided that the time was right he surrendered and executed the second part of his plan.
@@KryptonPlayer his plan was to get people to destroy themselves with their sins. He did exactly that. Mills even helped him to chose last two targets
@@safwanalvi8887 like i said. not his original plan. he wanted to punish seven victim per sin and he even said they screwed up his plan by finding him unexpectedly. Mills was not apart of his plan. He finds his victims in advance. Mills was something he threw together last minute. Facts.
@@bogdannesic8342 you missed my point.
That flash of her face was genius.
Someone needs to edit it to be female Iron Man flying around.
@Stalker 18 3:58
@@youtubesuresuckscock omg
@@yerdasellsavon2073 3:57
@@youtubesuresuckscock lmao so random
I had always heard about this scene, and the line “what’s in the box?” However, I never cared to spoil myself and looking up what it meant before actually taking the time to watch the film. Well tonight I did just that. I watched this movie, and I was completely taken aback by the ending. Probably one of the greatest scenes in all of cinematic history. Completely shocked at how it all came together, and in the end, the villain won.
Im too scared to watch it yeeet- but what do you mean by the ending.. Like AFTER this part??
@@rejoicemudavose9205 this is the ending
I did the same thing.
@@aebaddies8202 so wtf was in the box?
@@Soradakanizat it's literally spelled out for you.
It was his pregnant wife's decapitated head.
The end goal of the killer (guy in orange in this clip) is to create a murder using each of the 7 deadly sins (hence the title ). The movie goes through the 2 detectives coming across these thematic murder scenes, gluttony, avarice, sloth, lust ect until the killer turns himself in before commiting (or so were lead to believe) the final 2 murders.
He leads the detectives out here where he reveals his own sin of envy wherein he murdered the guys pregnant wife due to him hating their normal life, before finally revealing it to the guy here wherein the detective shoots him when he's not supposed to, becoming wrath and completing the cycle
brilliant movie actors all of it , love it can never get tired of this classic
That flash of his wife at 3:58 is haunting. He couldn’t control himself after that. I wouldn’t have been able to either.
Thanks for bringing that out I never even noticed. One of the greatest endings ever. One of the most underrated movies ever.
@@matthewmedina6170 It is a great movie, but it isn't underrated if you check on imdb it has 8.7 which is a really high rating.
Fabio Marchesi I hate when some brings up IMDb because they are not accurate at all. Rotten Tomatoes is way more accurate.
JB No it isn’t. IMDB and Metacritic are way more accurate than Rotten Tomatoes. RT is just too mainstream and everyone follows it.
johnnycoxville13 IMDb isn’t at all it basically takes user reviews and gets it main score there... we both know people will hate on a movie and give it bad review just to do it. Rotten tomatoes just gives a percentage on how many critics gave the movie a positive review and also gives user reviews for people who want to compare critics and audience opinions... don’t be one of those people who shit on anything that is mainstream lmfao IMDb is mainstream as fuck it’s literally owned by amazon.
Somerset knows that after John Doe tells Mills that she was pregnant that he can do nothing. That look around 3:12 is just one of pure defeat. Any man in Mills' position kills and there's not a thing you can say or do to prevent it. Somerset knows that even though he tries again, he knows it's over.
Yea, any sane human being would’ve put a bullet in him.
@@the_Punisher_ uh, no... any irrational human
@@escopiliatese3623 which is who Mills was all along, a hot-tempered, irrational person who succumbed to killing out of anger turning him into the anti-hero of the story, a man who while may be innocent of murder and potentially manslaughter, will have to live with the infamy of his final actions and the loss of his innocent wife and unborn child.
@@andrewburgemeister6684 that's why he's wrath. John doe kills people who have sined. Makes them kill themselves. But you can't kill yourself with your own wrath. You kill with it. John Doe got the win in this movie
@@escopiliatese3623 hahahahaha ok mate..
3:33
“David, if you kill him...he will win.”
This is my favorite line of this entire movie
yaaaa
Yup, reminds me of the Injustice Universe, the Joker killed Superman's wife and unborn son. Superman killed him but he failed to realize: Even in death, the Joker won he broken the man of steel.
Why? It's so dumb. He didn't win even if he got what he wanted. Who cares about his psychotic religious BS, his life was ended and there's one less murderous POS on the planet. He didn't win shit
@@GeorgeTropicana I think it's a win-win situation. He won because his plan went according to plan, and we won because he's dead.
@Tortilla Turtle which is what he wanted
When I first watched this movie as a 13 year old boy, I had to turn away from the box opening scene as I couldn't bear the horror and the mental scaring of seeing the head.
24 years later, and plucking up the most amount of courage that I have ever had to in my life, I finally decided to watch the box being opened with my eyes open.
The decision not to reveal what’s inside the box is genius. Our imagination is always more powerful than any effects.
They did it was her head? Or do you mean they just didn’t show it
imagine after shooting john doe, he went to look what's in the box to confirm and it's just a dildo
@@Moist_fridge123 They never directly showed or confirmed it. The closest was John saying he ''took her head instead''. It's fairly ambiguous, but also obvious at the same time.
but the killer had no motivation for killing mill's wife so why do people think it was her head lol
@@JinroTheCorpse i'm trying to think but i dont know, i just don't believe he killed mill's wife since he killed only people who have sinned
This has to be one of the most tragic scenes in history. No matter what you do next the bad guy has already won whether you kill him or not it doesn’t matter because he’s already taken everything from you.
You let him rot and torture in an empty cell with his evil thoughts and memories of his deeds.
@@rishwiz9 I agree that would’ve been better punishment than killing him, but I honestly don’t think he would’ve cared either way.
@@rishwiz9 Typical semi-literates who don't know what's psychopathy...
I’ve scene this movie countless times, and every time I’m yelling at Somerset to just stand in front John Doe, Mills likely won’t shoot if he does that.
For John Doe, all he wanted was to make the 7 sin related murders and, uh, that. He didn't really seem like he cared since, for him, he got it all done. That was the accomplishment, I suppose. Just get it done, and feel great that it all went to plan. I don't know for sure, though.
This scene is one of the most shocking and intense in movie history, what a twist
@@ASHTREY ooooh aren’t you very smart. The way I seen it was that there was one dead body, the wife and the second was soon the be John Doe. That’s the two
@@ASHTREY ok u r great then
@kron n same literally just watched. I knew it was the wife when John Doe b4 he came in the police station the guy at the desk said to David his wife was calling him. I decipher lines to much in movies and tv shows 😭😂😂
I honestly saw it coming. I thought Mills would be wrath, but I wasn't sure who envy was. Maybe his wife envied Somerset?
Still a great ending though
I wasn't shocked.. i had a feeling John would kill Tracy..
2 clues
*Mills literally told him his name he even spelled it for him
*Mills was so angry at the killer its actually annoying to watch.
I dont know, i just had a feeling that Tracy would be involved
Sometimes i hate being a moviegeek. I accidentally get the ending right
I've only watched a bit, once, at least 20 yrs ago, but all those scenes stayed with me like it was the last week.
Brad Pitt's acting in this scene is absolutely phenomenal. I'm sure Mills got away with at most a large fine. Probably blew out his brains though.
Nah he going prison. Agree with the acting tho
@@bill.yop1235 would he really go to prison? john beheaded his wife and killed his unborn child, when he realised that he wasnt sane person. i mean in country where i live probably he would go to prison because our law system is pretty broken, but how does it look in america? sory for my english if theres mistake
@@bill.yop1235 since this is America and given the circumstances, there is a very good chance the jury decided he wasn’t guilty. But whether he goes to prison or not, the psycho still won and Mills will never be happy again.
@@wrzesin8209You mention about the law being broken but ironically the exact opposite is why he would be trialled and found guilty, because regardless of his reasoning he still broke that law all the same. Although John Doe was insane and absolutely deserved to die a jury simply wouldn't recognise it that way and would still prosecute him all the same. Even if they sympathise with him their job is to recognise if a crime was committed and as far as they would be concerned David brutally shot and murdered an unarmed man. Even murdering scumbags are classed as victims if they themselves were to be murdered. He couldn't even use a self defence argument as there were several witnesses who could say that was a lie. He may ultimately have a reduced sentence or leniency from a judge due to his years of service on the force but he would absolutely go to prison regardless.
@@timidhobgoblin207 Isn't emotional state of the murderer considered in the law?? That if he is strongly emotionally impacted, his sentence is not as big??
Brad Pitt's acting is so fantastic here!! Every single emotion is nailed with such complexity, power and depth. Unbelievably powerful acting.
Then why wasn't he nominated?
Here's something you need to understand: A well-written character isn't perfectly interchangeable with a great actor/actress.
Brad Pitt did a good job. A good job doesn't mean an exceptional job comparable to the finest thespians.
There's another thing you need to learn too. Just being angry and full of rage is possibly the easiest emotion to convey. The likes of you are way too easily swayed by this.
"Complexity" ?? Please tell me you're joking.
@@McLarenMercedes you must be fun at parties
@@Kekster3000 Brad Pitt did well in this movie.
@@McLarenMercedes an anger scene is what won daniel day lewis his oscar for TWBB
@Tortilla Turtle I agree. Denzel was first offered the role of Mills but declined it because he thought it was to demonic, he eventually regretted it. I think Denzel would have executed Mills role perfectly. Brad did not do it for me
I saw this in the theater. I remember after it ended and everyone was walking out. Not a person said a word. Like WTF did we just see? Such a powerful movie.
i miss going to the theaters back in the 90s. i was in my elementary years when this was shown so clearly i was watching toy story or any family friendly movies then. i did get to see these kind of movies though through cable tv because there were no restrictions at home when it comes to entertainment 😄
The near whole of Seven is set in the dark. Lots of shots at night, daytime shots are when its grey and raining. This climax scene amidst a bright desert and dazzling sunshine is horribly jarring and works perfectly at unsettling the viewer.
3:08 The look of pure evil. "Oh! He didn't know!"
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That always gave me chills the delivery of that line was perfect
When being a troll is taken to the next level!!
@@agoodday4pi Sorry??
It's amazing that only Wrath gets to stay alive, completely empty of happiness and any sentiment really, at the end. A very symbolical punishment, the last 2 sins were handled very delicately.
i'm not sure but i think it meant that mills would be a suspect of doe's death and it was implied in 2:41 that mills would then get the death penalty. bottomline is that the series of murders of the 7 deadly sins would then be completed.
@@julietteferrars7739 Indeed, that is also correct.
@@julietteferrars7739 How he would get the death penalty, because he killed the killer of his precious wife and unborn child? I don't think that there would be a jury or a judge that would sentence him to the death penalty.
@@mattmurphy7030 As much as the legal system wants to protect cops, even they would hesitate to tell the public that revenge killings are fine.
@@marauderdz It was not a murder, so there can be no death penalty. He didn't plan it, he didn't want to do it, you have a ton of mitigating circumstances. He killed him out of passion. Few years in prison is max he would get I think, knowing whom he killed especially.
There is few people who wouldn't have done the same thing, being at his place.
SE7EN deadly sins:
Gluttony: Obese man.
Greed: Eli Gould.
Sloth: Victor Allen.
Lust: Prostitute.
Pride: Rachel Slade.
Envy: John Doe.
Wrath: David Mills.
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i feel the lust death is so sad...wish we found out they were a bad person..cause that just seems brutal..imagine doing that to someone else with no choice...i would tell the guy with the gun to just kill me..i could never kill someone that way myself
@@razkable Same that’s so messed up.
@@the_Punisher_ don’t knock it till you try it.
@David D Tracy was not a sin, Doe killed her by envy her life with Mills, showing Doe as the envy sin.
Some of the great movies can be watched over and over and over throughout your life and will entertain you every single time. This is one of those movies that you watch one time and experience the twists and scares and the horror and put it away and never watch it again.
Watched it 7 times now. It's just that good.