I really like that the creators of TAS knew the assignment and jumped in and thought up aliens that couldn't really be done in the live action series. That kind of stuff really fleshes out a universe often mocked so much for being populated by "humans with bumps on their heads" they threw the Progenitors into TNG to give a lore reason for it.
Animation is always superior ro love action in ANY GENRE. Even Lower Decks and Prodigy do things that if done in a live action Trek would require a lot of budget or be impossible to do in live action show.
@@francescozenocchini4428 Well, that's obviously quite subjective. I'd argue that some genres are better with live action, such as body horror, since it relies on the ability for our brain to identify with what we're seeing, and have a visceral reaction to it. An animated version of say, The Thing (1982), just wouldn't have hit nearly as hard as the live action version did (and still does).
"A giant earthquake isn't going to plunge California into the ocean." You say that, but uh...it has happened in the past 😅. There's ruins underwater in the UK and Greece of coastal towns that sank into the sea due to heavy stormy weather, massive landslides, and earthquakes. And at least one of the ice ages is believed to have been caused by an glacial ice shelf being shifted loose by an earthquake before making its way over North America.
Ice tends to melt. What is the current concern about "climate change?" That it will melt the glaciers, cause ocean levels to rise, and flood coastal land areas. Florida's average land height is already below sea level. Now, according to science, the world one had much more ice on it than it does now. All that ice melting is how we have the oceans and waterways we do now. There is a place in Europe where there is a massive lake that has had fossils of ocean dinosaurs found in it. Fossils of clams are found in areas that are now desserts. That must mean that land was once underwater. So science has to make up its mind whether a flood happened or didn't. They can't claim it never happened, and then produce evidence of there actually being one. They only make this claim as an attack on religion.
I agree with everyone else who said it's great how TAS was able to create so many more non-humanoid alien species than the live action series were able to. I wish there was a new animated Trek series that focused on an unexplored area of space that was filled with non-humanoid aliens that had never been encountered before.
I will never forget having my mom take me to Suncoast video in the Paducah, KY mall, so I could buy two VHS tapes of TAS... Then I got them home, dumped a bunch of Frank's Red Hot sauce into a small bag of Doritos... and that's why I still taste hot sauce and doritos every time I watch TAS.
The Animated Series was awesome, and the willingness to create new, strange, aliens that weren't basically humans with different ears or bumps on their heads was a huge part of it.
I wonder if those TAS bird species were considered when creating the already dead Xindi Avians. Too bad Enterprise never showed a living one. Lots of fascinating aliens on TAS. Great vid!
How Sharper than A Serpent's Tooth was written by a Native American partial as a take down of the ancient aliens conspiracies of the that with maybe the exception of stone henge attributed alien involvement only to non-white people. This was more or less going against that trope with "no they gave everyone technology!" so to me it gets a pass for the ancient alien lore inclusion, unlike that episode of Voyager.
In Prodigy, there's an Aurelian named Adreek-Hu who served as Chakotay's first officer aboard the Protostar, and it's shown he doesn't have wings. According to Executive Producer Aaron Waltke, there might be some subspecies of flightless Aurelians, just as there are flightless birds.
I would hazard to guess that some may choose to have their wings removed, or perhaps they are individuals who were born without them (mutants), or ones that lost their wings in some sort of accident, because serving aboard a normal, human-designed UFP starship with a giant pair of wings would be problematic. Also, thanks to ST medical sciences AND transporter tech, they could likely just add/remove the wings on the fly (pun intended).
@@marktaylor6553 For Star Trek Adventures (consulting with Aaron Waltke) we had this: "The Novolare, a flightless subspecies of Aurelians, are well suited for Starfleet, suffering claustrophobia far less than their winged counterparts. In the 2270s, only a few winged Aurelians had joined Starfleet, with most preferring postings on planets or starbases with open spaces." The thought was there was a continent which kind of like an Australia, developed it's own unique ecosystem and unlike Australia there were very few natural predators. The rest of the planet was full of them! So while the majority of the Aurelian's evolved to have wings to escape those predators, this sub-species did not.
@@GeekFilter I'm not a big fan of grossly divergent intelligent species evolving on the same world (It just wouldn't happen). I realize what you propose makes more sense in that the two would have a common ancestor, but I'm not even a fan of the Andorian sub-species. I prefer Occam's razor - the simplest solution works best (when i write - I also develop game products). If Picard can turn himself into an alien 'Devil' using the transporter, anyone can basically look any way they want, without surgery (making several episodes of ST where they had to be 'medically altered' nonsensical). Cheers
Although your videos are always great this one had been really fun. The animated series doesn't really fit into canon but, by its very nature, it had to be a out there and attention grabbing. I also love the fact that Lower Decks references all other Treks, including this. I really love Lower Decks and can only see it as a compliment. Lastly, I love how you reference real-world physics or biology. It gives so much depth to things that could simply be taken at face value.
Cards on the table... I can't say I like so much of TAS becoming defacto canonized at this point they have referred to it enough that it is something to be reckoned with. And yes, the low cost of animation allowed for more out there designs of aliens.
15:30 : Its kind of funny, because some people who believe in the 'Biblical Flood' have said that it was a worldwide earthquake that broke the crust of the Earth, releasing hidden stores of water to the surface, thus Noah's Flood 😅 Also, on the 'Vendorians': I remember reading the novel that was based on the episode where one first appeared (yes, I'm THAT old 😏) As I recall, in the episode he said that he transformed himself into the shields for the Enterprise, when he had disabled them earlier. In the novel, it was stated that he actually transformed himself into the vital circuitry/wiring/whatever to replaced what he had torn out/destroyed, which makes more sense then him turning into an actual 'energy' form to become shielding. On "How Sharper Than a Serpent's Tooth': Although it did embrace the 'Ancient Aliens' concept that was big at the time (same as Marvel's "The Eternals"), it was co-written by a Native American, Russle Bates, and had I think the only appearance of a Native American crew member before Chaktoy, Ensign Walking Bear.
By far, I prefer these strange aliens over the smorgasbord of 'human' aliens (vulcans, klingons, etc.); the less humanoid, the better. Honestly, it's difficult to reconcile the contradiction of Star Trek being considered as "hard science" while having human-aliens all over the galaxy (the Progenitors lore is unscientific rubbish that leaves more questions).
ive done DMT and seen some truly alien things, im not sure if capturing a "truly alien" life form, or landscape, or whatever, would make for good tv 😂 i think the xenomorph and the Thing (1982) get there and work good with horror, though i would probably be very much into StarTrek horror
*Theory:* Insects in particular tend to vary greatly in size even within a specific species, and especially where gender is concerned. If applied to a space-born species like those 'ancients', they could have had several castes, with queens being extremely large, and thus their architecture would have to allow for the large queen to go wherever she wanted. A good example of this in Scify are the Xenomorphs.
The unseen bug people could easily be from a world of higher atmospheric density. It's like jumping in the water, the water supports your weight, a thicker atmosphere means they could be larger without taking other things into consideration, slightly lower gravity, or simply evolving a way to support the weight not found on earth, being a lower density with a larger volume thus not needing to support as much weight. Like birds on earth having lighter bones and generally lighter frames. They could also have a combination of an exo and endo skeleton , there's no reason to assume an alien life form would automatically have to fall into either category exclusively. There are several "realistic" scenarios that could explain giant bug aliens. If they came from Titan they could probably be 50 feet tall just made of the same stuff earth bugs are, you have both a low gravity compared to earth and a higher atmospheric pressure.
I don't really think that's fair, tbh -- Lower Decks is kind of a breath of fresh air when it comes to depicting the variety of alien forms in the Star Trek universe, even if it does mainly rely on previously established species. It obviously does invent some new ones
Breaking science fact: genetic and other molecular data in the past few years actually places _Insecta_ as a subclade of _Crustacea_ so insects *are* crustaceans.
I'm not going to watch any new DS9 episodes until you make a video on Section 31's ongoing long-term operation against Worf, the greatest poker player of all time - Not allowing Worf to win a game of poker, after "The Emissary," with the added ridicule from Data and Geordi.
I always thought that Keenser from the Kelvin movies looked an awful lot like the bug creatures from Beyond the Farthest Star. He has smaller eyes but then again it’s been millions of years so they’re definitely could’ve been evolution.
Controversial opinion, but I choose to believe that TAS isn't year 4 and 5 of the TOS 5 year mission, I like to think that TAS runs concurrently with TOS and that together they represent a decent cross section of the 5 year mission. The only supporting evidence for this is that I believe Yesteryear works better as a direct sequel to City on the edge of forever rather than assuming that the Enterprise came back years later for some casual timetravel shenanigans. I mean, she's suposed to be out there exploring, revisiting planets is a job for lesser crews. But my main interest is that it allows for characters like Arex and M'ress to have been on the ship during the TOS run, simply unseen serving at other stations. Like we have mostly assumed was the case for Checkov in Space Seed. This means that if in the future, writers want to tell stories set between the episodes of TOS/TAS they have the liberty to use these characters without having to write awkward dialog to soothe the more irritable parts of the Fandom.
It has to take place in 2269 and later since they visit Beta Niobe supernova from All Our Yesterdays and Bob Wesley retired from Starfleet to become the Governor of Mantilles. We last saw him in live action "the ultimate computer" which would be 2268. It definitely occurs between the 4th and 5th year of the mission.
Well, the cartoons could do things the show couldn't. And they are canon, Edosians and Caitians both appear throughout extended material and Caitians even appear in the background of Star Trek IV.
pure wild and wacky science fiction. Something that we've kind of left behind over the years. Don't get me wrong, I love the expanse to bits. Hard sci fi is great. But sometimes you just need a guy that has little arms coming out of his torsoless legs.
I have never had an interest in watching the Animated Series before but I instantly fell in love with many of these Alien designs so now im going to have to watch it sometime.
I have watched the series and if I were a kid, I would not have kept watching it. It is VERY, VERY slow and boring at times. If they were aiming this at children, they were missing their mark because they use high tech lingo that kids wouldn't understand. It is essentially a cartoon version of actual Star Trek TOS, which is fine by me.
I've only watched through TAS once, but I remember quite enjoying many of the non-humanoid or more fantastical aliens presented. It was fun to see some of them again. Thank you for the video! God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
There are also the animals from different planets...c the swoopers, the various dragons and dinosaurs, the halo fish and the sehlat , some of which later became canonical. I've even heard a few months ago that Commander Thelin night be an Aenar... But he's apparently hot blind or telepathic.
They just let loose with TAS, so many one off aliens that sadly not seen after, like the Ursinoids from Mudd's passion, like 5 frames of screen time. Think they were going for even more when the Motion Picture came out, and then sadly with TNG and the ones after they really dialed back to just forehead/nose appliance aliens. Voyager started getting back there with the Voth and now Strange New Worlds revisited the Gorn, but definitely a dry spell for variety when they 'no masks' mandate was issued.
How do the Pandronians levitate? Well, telekinesis _is_ canon in the Star Trek Universe (see TOS "Plato's Stepchildren" and there are probably other examples.)
I enjoyed your video until you got to time index 15:48......keep your unbiblical opinions to yourself the world wide flood, Noah’s Ark and the rest of the book of Genesis as well as the rest of the Bible is historical fact not fiction.
Oh, thank the gods! Someone who understands how animals' back legs are designed! I get annoyed at the were-animal trope of knees breaking and reversing...
I just have two questions ,like, can a head Pandronian have a baby with a arm or lower body Pandronian or only with another head from a different colony. Also can only the head Pandronian speak
18:18 the lactran aliens are a bit of a mis. I want to like the idea of a more ancient civilization that has tens of thousands of years of technological development on the federation, but the more evolved on a biological stage is badly implementation of a poorly understood concept on the part of the ppl that wrote that episode... Good writers, bad scientific knowledge... 🤣
I love how TAS took full advantage of the medium of animation to create races that weren't "humans with bumps on their heads," letting creativity flow and making the federation and the galaxy as a whole feel a lot more alien and lived in
TAS is especially amazing when smoking a joint 👍🤣. I was actually quite surprised by how many episodes have really amazing storylines. Some pretty heady/heavy plots for a Saturday morning kid's show! Spock's Salott! 🖖😎🤘🇨🇦🕊️
@@gohawks3571 🤣. Good question! 😂 . I watched without smoking pot, and thoroughly enjoyed it. It's just fun to watch while smoking pot. It's a different vibe, some of the sillier episodes suddenly become either absolutely hilarious, or deeply profound! Thanks for responding! LLAP! 🇨🇦🖖😎🤘🕊️
This is just another example of your dedication to excellent work. The amount of effort you put into research and presentation of these is phenomenal. Kudos.
@MaskedMan66 People are free to join the discussion and reply to your original post, sure. It's just that, you have to admit, when the video is titled the way it's titled, and you phrased your comment the way you did, it came off as incredibly confusing and out-of-the-blue
Grasshoppers have two sets of wings, but they are not modified limbs like in birds and bats. Insect wings are a very different structure and not really analogous to a limb.
5th Always appreciate your Vids..... ..major Trekkie here.....grew up with TOS as New Episodes ......Playing STO since BETA .... Treks main kind of species are humanoid bipedal.,..with today's tech they can make almost any kind of "Alien" that doesn't have to be --humanoid
@@OrangeRiver That sounds to easy. There has to be more to it than that! Also, Edward Jellico was the best captains in the fleet!!! People that are in charge should never let anyone have time off to eat or sleep! Being on a starship is not a vacation.
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I really like that the creators of TAS knew the assignment and jumped in and thought up aliens that couldn't really be done in the live action series. That kind of stuff really fleshes out a universe often mocked so much for being populated by "humans with bumps on their heads" they threw the Progenitors into TNG to give a lore reason for it.
Animation is always superior ro love action in ANY GENRE.
Even Lower Decks and Prodigy do things that if done in a live action Trek would require a lot of budget or be impossible to do in live action show.
@@ThommyofThenn they excel in different ways. :D
@@francescozenocchini4428 Well, that's obviously quite subjective. I'd argue that some genres are better with live action, such as body horror, since it relies on the ability for our brain to identify with what we're seeing, and have a visceral reaction to it. An animated version of say, The Thing (1982), just wouldn't have hit nearly as hard as the live action version did (and still does).
I’m glad the more recent shows have tried to add more variety to the creatures and aliens. Many of them truly do feel more alien than human now.
Hey Tyler, guys here
"A giant earthquake isn't going to plunge California into the ocean."
You say that, but uh...it has happened in the past 😅.
There's ruins underwater in the UK and Greece of coastal towns that sank into the sea due to heavy stormy weather, massive landslides, and earthquakes.
And at least one of the ice ages is believed to have been caused by an glacial ice shelf being shifted loose by an earthquake before making its way over North America.
Ice tends to melt. What is the current concern about "climate change?" That it will melt the glaciers, cause ocean levels to rise, and flood coastal land areas. Florida's average land height is already below sea level. Now, according to science, the world one had much more ice on it than it does now. All that ice melting is how we have the oceans and waterways we do now. There is a place in Europe where there is a massive lake that has had fossils of ocean dinosaurs found in it. Fossils of clams are found in areas that are now desserts. That must mean that land was once underwater.
So science has to make up its mind whether a flood happened or didn't. They can't claim it never happened, and then produce evidence of there actually being one. They only make this claim as an attack on religion.
Star trek is so ahed his time that had furrys before it was a thing.
trek is the birthplace of many modern fandom tropes and concepts, furries aren't free of this lol
I agree with everyone else who said it's great how TAS was able to create so many more non-humanoid alien species than the live action series were able to. I wish there was a new animated Trek series that focused on an unexplored area of space that was filled with non-humanoid aliens that had never been encountered before.
I would really like to see an Edosian as a ship's barman.
As a fan of Star trek: TAS, I enjoyed the series myself.
Plus, I liked how we got to see more unusual aliens in the animated series than Live Action.
I will never forget having my mom take me to Suncoast video in the Paducah, KY mall, so I could buy two VHS tapes of TAS... Then I got them home, dumped a bunch of Frank's Red Hot sauce into a small bag of Doritos... and that's why I still taste hot sauce and doritos every time I watch TAS.
Hank MacLean, is that you?
The Animated Series was awesome, and the willingness to create new, strange, aliens that weren't basically humans with different ears or bumps on their heads was a huge part of it.
I love that you give TAS the respect it deserves.
I wonder if those TAS bird species were considered when creating the already dead Xindi Avians. Too bad Enterprise never showed a living one. Lots of fascinating aliens on TAS. Great vid!
TAS was my intro to Star Trek when I was a kid. Lower Decks did well to revisit a lot of it, too bad it got axed.
How Sharper than A Serpent's Tooth was written by a Native American partial as a take down of the ancient aliens conspiracies of the that with maybe the exception of stone henge attributed alien involvement only to non-white people. This was more or less going against that trope with "no they gave everyone technology!" so to me it gets a pass for the ancient alien lore inclusion, unlike that episode of Voyager.
I’ve always thought it would be cool to reanimate the series. They have the audio and can make it look better
There might not have been a great flood 3 or 4 millennia ago, but the Earth's sea levels did rise dramatically 14,000 years back.
Until they prove that there wasn't one, they can't just make that claim. It would be accepting that on faith, which is what religions do.
I knew the furry accusations was comin with the planti-digitigrade discussion xD
In Prodigy, there's an Aurelian named Adreek-Hu who served as Chakotay's first officer aboard the Protostar, and it's shown he doesn't have wings. According to Executive Producer Aaron Waltke, there might be some subspecies of flightless Aurelians, just as there are flightless birds.
Yes indeed! We added it to the Star Trek adventures TAS supplement. So it’s beta canon as of now.
I would hazard to guess that some may choose to have their wings removed, or perhaps they are individuals who were born without them (mutants), or ones that lost their wings in some sort of accident, because serving aboard a normal, human-designed UFP starship with a giant pair of wings would be problematic. Also, thanks to ST medical sciences AND transporter tech, they could likely just add/remove the wings on the fly (pun intended).
@@marktaylor6553 For Star Trek Adventures (consulting with Aaron Waltke) we had this:
"The Novolare, a flightless subspecies
of Aurelians, are well suited for Starfleet,
suffering claustrophobia far less than their
winged counterparts. In the 2270s, only a
few winged Aurelians had joined Starfleet,
with most preferring postings on planets or
starbases with open spaces."
The thought was there was a continent which kind of like an Australia, developed it's own unique ecosystem and unlike Australia there were very few natural predators. The rest of the planet was full of them! So while the majority of the Aurelian's evolved to have wings to escape those predators, this sub-species did not.
@@GeekFilter I'm not a big fan of grossly divergent intelligent species evolving on the same world (It just wouldn't happen). I realize what you propose makes more sense in that the two would have a common ancestor, but I'm not even a fan of the Andorian sub-species.
I prefer Occam's razor - the simplest solution works best (when i write - I also develop game products). If Picard can turn himself into an alien 'Devil' using the transporter, anyone can basically look any way they want, without surgery (making several episodes of ST where they had to be 'medically altered' nonsensical).
Cheers
I absolutely dig cartoons, (and Trek of course} but have never watched the animated series. I might have to give it a watch. Killer video!
Thanks dude!
It's well worth it. The animation is typical for cheap 1970s Saturday morning cartoons but many if the stories are great.
Ah brilliant! Been waiting for this deeper dive! Thank you, keep it up!
Star Trek TAS has something special
Trek animated series will always be canon to me. As will Lower Decks.
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She came from Greece, she had a thirst for knowledge
Although your videos are always great this one had been really fun. The animated series doesn't really fit into canon but, by its very nature, it had to be a out there and attention grabbing. I also love the fact that Lower Decks references all other Treks, including this. I really love Lower Decks and can only see it as a compliment. Lastly, I love how you reference real-world physics or biology. It gives so much depth to things that could simply be taken at face value.
Sweeeeet! Seems like a long time since I have seen one of your videos Tyler. Great work as always. #Qapla'
Cards on the table... I can't say I like so much of TAS becoming defacto canonized at this point they have referred to it enough that it is something to be reckoned with. And yes, the low cost of animation allowed for more out there designs of aliens.
Thanks. One correction: there were no witches burned at Salem. ❤
Um......I'm not really sure what to do with this comment lol
@OrangeRiver sorry, in either this video or another with the pilgrims/pan episode, you mentioned witches burnt at Salem, yes?
...Yes? If you're referring to the events of the episode, that is what's depicted.
15:30 : Its kind of funny, because some people who believe in the 'Biblical Flood' have said that it was a worldwide earthquake that broke the crust of the Earth, releasing hidden stores of water to the surface, thus Noah's Flood 😅
Also, on the 'Vendorians': I remember reading the novel that was based on the episode where one first appeared (yes, I'm THAT old 😏)
As I recall, in the episode he said that he transformed himself into the shields for the Enterprise, when he had disabled them earlier. In the novel, it was stated that he actually transformed himself into the vital circuitry/wiring/whatever to replaced what he had torn out/destroyed, which makes more sense then him turning into an actual 'energy' form to become shielding.
On "How Sharper Than a Serpent's Tooth': Although it did embrace the 'Ancient Aliens' concept that was big at the time (same as Marvel's "The Eternals"), it was co-written by a Native American, Russle Bates, and had I think the only appearance of a Native American crew member before Chaktoy, Ensign Walking Bear.
By far, I prefer these strange aliens over the smorgasbord of 'human' aliens (vulcans, klingons, etc.); the less humanoid, the better.
Honestly, it's difficult to reconcile the contradiction of Star Trek being considered as "hard science" while having human-aliens all over the galaxy (the Progenitors lore is unscientific rubbish that leaves more questions).
ive done DMT and seen some truly alien things, im not sure if capturing a "truly alien" life form, or landscape, or whatever, would make for good tv 😂 i think the xenomorph and the Thing (1982) get there and work good with horror, though i would probably be very much into StarTrek horror
*Theory:* Insects in particular tend to vary greatly in size even within a specific species, and especially where gender is concerned. If applied to a space-born species like those 'ancients', they could have had several castes, with queens being extremely large, and thus their architecture would have to allow for the large queen to go wherever she wanted. A good example of this in Scify are the Xenomorphs.
I loved TAS, but I was right in the demographic it was aimed at. I turned 8 in 1973.
Could these various species have evolved from earths earlier epochs and became intelligent enough to colonize the galaxy
I don’t nececerslly consider the events of the series canon, but consider nearly all of the concepts to be canon
FYI, the letter xi is pronounced "ksee" or "ksi" (like psi and phi).
i am curious about the finger on the right side of the video, the green and blue one. Looks a iltte like Tendi
YEAAAAAH CAMBRIAN MENTION!!!
The unseen bug people could easily be from a world of higher atmospheric density. It's like jumping in the water, the water supports your weight, a thicker atmosphere means they could be larger without taking other things into consideration, slightly lower gravity, or simply evolving a way to support the weight not found on earth, being a lower density with a larger volume thus not needing to support as much weight. Like birds on earth having lighter bones and generally lighter frames. They could also have a combination of an exo and endo skeleton , there's no reason to assume an alien life form would automatically have to fall into either category exclusively.
There are several "realistic" scenarios that could explain giant bug aliens. If they came from Titan they could probably be 50 feet tall just made of the same stuff earth bugs are, you have both a low gravity compared to earth and a higher atmospheric pressure.
TAS was really creative in world-building and inventing new aliens, while Lower Decks only harvested the memberberries.
I don't really think that's fair, tbh -- Lower Decks is kind of a breath of fresh air when it comes to depicting the variety of alien forms in the Star Trek universe, even if it does mainly rely on previously established species. It obviously does invent some new ones
anyone else going to point out that ONE statue in the backround shots?
Breaking science fact: genetic and other molecular data in the past few years actually places _Insecta_ as a subclade of _Crustacea_ so insects *are* crustaceans.
But not all Crustaceans are insects
I'm not going to watch any new DS9 episodes until you make a video on Section 31's ongoing long-term operation against Worf, the greatest poker player of all time - Not allowing Worf to win a game of poker, after "The Emissary," with the added ridicule from Data and Geordi.
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Some good aliens 🧐
Some are from the minds of the 70s 🤪
I always thought that Keenser from the Kelvin movies looked an awful lot like the bug creatures from Beyond the Farthest Star. He has smaller eyes but then again it’s been millions of years so they’re definitely could’ve been evolution.
Wasn't the 'Matter Energy Cloud' in TNG or Voyager?
Honestly, every Trek series has a matter-energy cloud lol
I was about to skip the ad but that Fum thing actually looks good. I want the nicotine though
Controversial opinion, but I choose to believe that TAS isn't year 4 and 5 of the TOS 5 year mission, I like to think that TAS runs concurrently with TOS and that together they represent a decent cross section of the 5 year mission.
The only supporting evidence for this is that I believe Yesteryear works better as a direct sequel to City on the edge of forever rather than assuming that the Enterprise came back years later for some casual timetravel shenanigans. I mean, she's suposed to be out there exploring, revisiting planets is a job for lesser crews.
But my main interest is that it allows for characters like Arex and M'ress to have been on the ship during the TOS run, simply unseen serving at other stations. Like we have mostly assumed was the case for Checkov in Space Seed.
This means that if in the future, writers want to tell stories set between the episodes of TOS/TAS they have the liberty to use these characters without having to write awkward dialog to soothe the more irritable parts of the Fandom.
The stardates would disagree with you, tbh--that's probably the biggest rebuttal :D
It has to take place in 2269 and later since they visit Beta Niobe supernova from All Our Yesterdays and Bob Wesley retired from Starfleet to become the Governor of Mantilles. We last saw him in live action "the ultimate computer" which would be 2268. It definitely occurs between the 4th and 5th year of the mission.
Fascinating and logical, too. 🖖👍✌🤞
happy friday, this is makin my day
Cool shirt, where did you get it?
Tali vs Tendi.
Who wins?
8 legs = arthropods.
Well, the cartoons could do things the show couldn't. And they are canon, Edosians and Caitians both appear throughout extended material and Caitians even appear in the background of Star Trek IV.
I love TAS! Thanks for making some content spotlighting it!
Regarding "Magiks of Megas-Tu", the executions of the Salem Witch Trials were by HANGING, not burning at the stake.
Truly weird aliens is the one thing sci-fi needs more of, especially nowadays now that we have such good CGI.
pure wild and wacky science fiction. Something that we've kind of left behind over the years. Don't get me wrong, I love the expanse to bits. Hard sci fi is great. But sometimes you just need a guy that has little arms coming out of his torsoless legs.
I have never had an interest in watching the Animated Series before but I instantly fell in love with many of these Alien designs so now im going to have to watch it sometime.
I have watched the series and if I were a kid, I would not have kept watching it. It is VERY, VERY slow and boring at times. If they were aiming this at children, they were missing their mark because they use high tech lingo that kids wouldn't understand. It is essentially a cartoon version of actual Star Trek TOS, which is fine by me.
I've only watched through TAS once, but I remember quite enjoying many of the non-humanoid or more fantastical aliens presented. It was fun to see some of them again. Thank you for the video!
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
For some reason when i try to imagine the Oankali from Butler's XENOGENESIS books, i picture a Lactran.
Given today’s videographic technology, aliens could’ve far more numerous, we could easily make a live-action Edosian like Arex now.
There are also the animals from different planets...c the swoopers, the various dragons and dinosaurs, the halo fish and the sehlat , some of which later became canonical.
I've even heard a few months ago that Commander Thelin night be an Aenar... But he's apparently hot blind or telepathic.
They just let loose with TAS, so many one off aliens that sadly not seen after, like the Ursinoids from Mudd's passion, like 5 frames of screen time. Think they were going for even more when the Motion Picture came out, and then sadly with TNG and the ones after they really dialed back to just forehead/nose appliance aliens. Voyager started getting back there with the Voth and now Strange New Worlds revisited the Gorn, but definitely a dry spell for variety when they 'no masks' mandate was issued.
How do the Pandronians levitate? Well, telekinesis _is_ canon in the Star Trek Universe (see TOS "Plato's Stepchildren" and there are probably other examples.)
Hey Tyler, guy here.
I enjoyed your video until you got to time index 15:48......keep your unbiblical opinions to yourself the world wide flood, Noah’s Ark and the rest of the book of Genesis as well as the rest of the Bible is historical fact not fiction.
It's crazy seeing how many species and sight gags in Lower Decks came from TAS. I didn't realize how many references I was missing out on
TAS is canon
TAS migh have not been the best or even good series, but it took full advantage of the fact that it was animated.
Nom nom nom
@@totalCoolerUsername yep just fixed it
Oh, thank the gods! Someone who understands how animals' back legs are designed!
I get annoyed at the were-animal trope of knees breaking and reversing...
I just have two questions ,like, can a head Pandronian have a baby with a arm or lower body Pandronian or only with another head from a different colony. Also can only the head Pandronian speak
18:18 the lactran aliens are a bit of a mis. I want to like the idea of a more ancient civilization that has tens of thousands of years of technological development on the federation, but the more evolved on a biological stage is badly implementation of a poorly understood concept on the part of the ppl that wrote that episode... Good writers, bad scientific knowledge... 🤣
I love how TAS took full advantage of the medium of animation to create races that weren't "humans with bumps on their heads," letting creativity flow and making the federation and the galaxy as a whole feel a lot more alien and lived in
The Matter energy organism from One of our planets is missing reminds me strongly of TOS' The Immunity Syndrome life draining organism.
Animation is a vastly underrated genre, especially in ScyFi it allows to circumvent special effects constraints.
Saw it in the early 80s, not knowing it was from 73, and thought the navigator was a ripoff of ET
TAS is especially amazing when smoking a joint 👍🤣. I was actually quite surprised by how many episodes have really amazing storylines. Some pretty heady/heavy plots for a Saturday morning kid's show! Spock's Salott! 🖖😎🤘🇨🇦🕊️
Do you mean plots that they actually had, or plots that happened because you were high? If the second, I'd love to hear your alternate stories😁
@@gohawks3571 🤣. Good question! 😂 . I watched without smoking pot, and thoroughly enjoyed it. It's just fun to watch while smoking pot. It's a different vibe, some of the sillier episodes suddenly become either absolutely hilarious, or deeply profound! Thanks for responding! LLAP! 🇨🇦🖖😎🤘🕊️
What do you have against felines? The Capellan Power-Cat deserves a mention.
19 seconds 😁🏆😂
Couldnt call a modern Trek episode Jihad, now in 2024.
A couple episodes of TAS are incredible.
I mean it won an emmy for a reason.
What if the Vadala are just the Kzinti from the far off future, you did say they have time manipulation abilities...
So, off topic, but are you going to do a retrospective look back at the DS9 "Past Tense" episodes and the Bell riots of September 2024?
I made a video about the Bell Riots years ago, but I might revisit it this year!
Hey! You! Thanks for another video!
25:22 someone definitely had a cat fetishism...
STAS is cannon it appears on screen live action or animation its 100% Cannon .
The Megans remind me of Spaaaasce Ghooooost! 😜
Why the heck would Vendor *Prime* be the *second* planet in their system?!
Prime planets are usually the main inhabited planet of the system... if there were a "Sol Prime" it would be Earth, not Mercury lol
quit wierding me out.
Dope video! Now I keep telling myself that I'm going to sit and watch TA, Good or bad.
This is just another example of your dedication to excellent work. The amount of effort you put into research and presentation of these is phenomenal. Kudos.
Thanks Gopher!
25:47 Oh hey, a Boltzmann Brain
"Weird" alien designs didn't begin with _Star Trek._
...that's literally not what the title is saying lmao
@@OrangeRiver No, that's what I'm saying.
@MaskedMan66 Okay, but... respectfully, what is that adding to the discussion?
@@OrangeRiver An observation. What else does it need to add? I mean, we are free to speak here, aren't we? I didn't see any posted rules.
@MaskedMan66 People are free to join the discussion and reply to your original post, sure. It's just that, you have to admit, when the video is titled the way it's titled, and you phrased your comment the way you did, it came off as incredibly confusing and out-of-the-blue
18:52 Hey hey hey, BIM's on the way
Interesting how you seem to show a grasshopper (an eight-limbed creature) as an example of a six-limbed species. Wings are limbs too.
Grasshoppers have two sets of wings, but they are not modified limbs like in birds and bats. Insect wings are a very different structure and not really analogous to a limb.
5th Always appreciate your Vids..... ..major Trekkie here.....grew up with TOS as New Episodes ......Playing STO since BETA .... Treks main kind of species are humanoid bipedal.,..with today's tech they can make almost any kind of "Alien" that doesn't have to be --humanoid
I'm not subscribed. What is the best way to not miss your videos?
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Subscribe, turn on notifications, and pray XD
@@OrangeRiver That sounds to easy. There has to be more to it than that! Also, Edward Jellico was the best captains in the fleet!!! People that are in charge should never let anyone have time off to eat or sleep! Being on a starship is not a vacation.
Do you really think Tendi is the best Star Trek character? Because somehow that just seems disrespectful to Trek.
I mean, why? That sentiment itself sounds disrespectful lmfao
Did you know once cigarettes were marketed to children and were perfectly safe?
Some people will do anything for sponsors.
Hey asshole, 1) this video isn't aimed at kids, and 2) in case you never realized, sponsors help RUclipsrs pay their teams.