James, I really enjoyed this video as I have decided that the awning/tent for my VW is going to be too big and unnecessary for my road trip around Europe in Velma, so I'm looking at finding smaller, quicker and lighter options and this has been a great help. Thanks. Keep up the good work.
Sounds like it's tent shopping time for you then, Stu! I'm glad this video gave some helpful info. Feel free to drop me a message if you think there's anything else I can help with 👍 Thanks for the comment. James.
Great video, thanks for finding my tent that I carelessly left there, let me know when is good to collect 😜. Really love these reviews so useful for a novice like me.
The OEX is a great little tent. Used it many times. Effortless to pitch. Good fade resistance. Nice quality poles. 5000mm water repellent. Zip jammed solid on tent fabric (my fault) and fell on top of tent bending poles when drunk (definitely my fault) Will be replacing tent imminently with same model. Not sure what justifies spending 5x as much unless Base Camp on Everest is on the cards.
It's good to hear from a long-term user (which I certainly am not). I'd be pretty outraged if my tent couldn't stand up to drunken attacks. Send it back at once 😂
The biggest different between the tents is you can buy a tent, a backpack, sleeping bag and sleeping mat all for the same price of a Terra Nova Southern Cross 1.
That sky! The second hand market is strong so as you said, tents hold their value better than you'd think. Not like you lose a huge amount of value if you use it a handful of times. I really like the look of the SC1 but I like to get my pack in the tent with me, and I don't think you can do that with the SC1?
The sky almost looks fake doesn't it? Light levels were all over the place 🤣 I'd say you wouldn't get a rucksack inside the SC1 with you, no. I don't think I've brought my pack into any of my tents - it always lives in the vestibule. Is that to keep it off the wet ground? I may treat the SC1 to a footprint this winter time - solution!
Thanks Mark. Yeah I'm really glad I took a punt and opted to try the SC1 out. I couldn't be without it now! Have you had yours long? And which of the Vango ULs do you have?
@@joinmeoutdoors I’ve had mine about 18 months I guess but it’s not been out nearly enough. I had a vango helium UL1. Quite similar dimensions to the SC1 but lighter for summer camps.
Thank you Pete. Back with another camping video next Friday, fear not 😉 I hope we'll be seeing you out again soon? How's that Thermarest mat working out for you? Mine felt more comfortable last night than a lot of good beds I've slept in, so I hope it's serving you well!
@@joinmeoutdoors I’ve had a secondary foot injury metatarsal 😣so I’m still on the mend. Doing ok and feeling better but it’s a more ligament/joint related issue. I think it was a knock on from the broken toe changing the geometry of the foot slightly. It’s the next toe over from the break. Hopefully only a couple more weeks. Desperate to get out. Shouldn’t be long now. Might be interested in that phlox II.
@@unclepeteswildadventures Oh I'm sorry to hear that, Pete. Those secondary injuries can seemingly come out of nowhere. It sounds like you're getting on top it though, so heal up fast 👍 The Phoxx tents are real performers in windy conditions, and represent seriously good value for money. Is this the beginning of an almighty tent collection? 😉
Good vid. Have mentioned before I have the S.Cross 2. 600 grams heavier for the extra space and 2 doorways it’s well worth it. Have searched around also and Terra nova seem to be out of stock so hard to to buy anything now.
The SC2 does look like an absolute cavern. Yes, Terra Nova seem to be struggling to keep up with all the demand at the moment - our tents must be worth a fortune at the moment! 🤣
Hey buddy, nice review, odd tents to compare, but actually, I totally get where you're coming from, it's great to have a comparison between 2 totally different tents and I have the Terra nova pioneer 2 and the naturehike cloud peak 2, different aspects I like about both, the price for a start, but sometimes paying a bit more does pay dividends. Great video buddy but where was the food cooking? Only joking 🙃 😬
Haha no food once again, sorry Richard! Yep these tents don't really occupy the same area in the market, but they are both 1 man tents (in my eyes) that you can happily take wild camping. I hope you'll have the Pioneer out for a try out soon! James.
@@joinmeoutdoors I have lol, I went to Aberystwyth last week and tried it out, I was sceptical at 1st, but I'm liking the tent now that I got in touch with terra nova about my concerns. I'm happy with it thankfully, now that I've had my mind put at rest, as they'd made a few mods with the 2022 version (not all good tbh) enjoy your week and the rest of your weekend 👍
@@IrelandRider I'm glad you've had it out for its maiden outing already. You didn't waste much time there! Also happy to hear that your initial concerns have been settled. Thanks, have a good week yourself ✌
We have the same gripe about the phoxx2v2 regarding the zipper, i found it annoying. There version i bought does have the outer part of the tent connected(i know some were modding it before), it also has 2 zips but for some reason it has a zip stopper that stops you moving both of the zips to the top, i dont really understand why. i guess they revised it so now its the Phoxx II v2.1
That's interesting, so the latest version comes with the inner and outer tents connected now, for an all-in-one pitch? Double-zipped doors are a great upgrade, though I don't understand why they'd limit them at the top like that. I'll have to keep an eye out for one the next time I'm in Go Outdoors 👍
@@joinmeoutdoors yeah and the way it attatches seems strong too, they also extended the sleeve the pole fits into and removed 2 of the clips that hook onto the poles (i beleive the older one has 2 clips on each side) the zip is weird at the bottom it has a zip that can move about a foot and a half, so the zips have to meet at the bottom there when the doors are closed, no idea why, great tent though, i had the nyx 200 before that hated that thing, felt good putting it in the bin!
Hi , back in the day when i was a leader for the DofE gold groups , we always bought Vango Hurricane's ( 2 man) . Do they still do that tent. As i remember it had Alumin poles and was really easy to pitch , even in the worst Scottish weather. Glencoe January and survived!!
Hi Angus. You must have a fair bit of experience under your belt! As far as I can tell, the model name "Hurricane" has been dropped by Vango now, but it seems to have had a few iterations over the years. I bought myself a Hurricane Alpha when I was about 10 years old in the early 90s. Apart from a split pole and some elderly seam tape (both of which I'd like to sort out), it's still a perfectly good tent. Glencoe is as good a place as any to give a tent a thorough test!! Thanks for watching James.👍
Yeah, wasn't sure how that would go! I was 20 metres from the coast path, tucked away in that corner (not on his crops) to keep out of the wind to give my microphone a fighting chance. It must be fun roaming around your fields in a Discovery!
The main thing for me is the pitch in 1 I'd say that's my main deal breaker.also 1 person tents I'd rather carry the extra weight and have a lot more room and the extra vestibule.but when just starting out I agree don't spend 2 much until you know you like it then yes I'd say pay the extra money and get a quality tent
Pitching in one just makes it all so easy, doesn't it? I fully understand people wanting more space - particularly if the weather means you end up stuck in your tent for a long time. Thanks for watching 👍 James.
Hi! I released this video 1.5 years ago. I bought my Southern Cross 1 from Cotswold Outdoor for £360 last year. It was £420 on the website, and I then got a 15% discount with my National Trust membership. Prices have changed since then, but the tents are currently £490 on the Terra Nova website. If you're looking to buy one for yourself, and if you feel that my videos have helped you in your research, you can follow the link in this video description to take you to the Southern Cross 1 before you order it. I would then receive a small commission (at no extra cost to you!). If only they could still be bought for under £400, hey? James.
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James, I really enjoyed this video as I have decided that the awning/tent for my VW is going to be too big and unnecessary for my road trip around Europe in Velma, so I'm looking at finding smaller, quicker and lighter options and this has been a great help. Thanks. Keep up the good work.
Sounds like it's tent shopping time for you then, Stu! I'm glad this video gave some helpful info. Feel free to drop me a message if you think there's anything else I can help with 👍 Thanks for the comment. James.
I also like to be able to peep out and pitch the inner and outer together, that’s why I like the Bobcat, ticks all my own personal boxes👍
Absolute must haves 👌 Gotta be able to keep an eye on those pesky grouse in the Beacons 🤣👀
Great video, thanks for finding my tent that I carelessly left there, let me know when is good to collect 😜.
Really love these reviews so useful for a novice like me.
Haha what are the chances? It's ready for collection now, so it's just the £400 storage fee to pay 😋
Great review and cool video.Thanks a lot.Looking forward to see more from your Channel.
Thank you very much, and welcome! 🤗
The OEX is a great little tent. Used it many times. Effortless to pitch. Good fade resistance. Nice quality poles. 5000mm water repellent.
Zip jammed solid on tent fabric (my fault) and fell on top of tent bending poles when drunk (definitely my fault)
Will be replacing tent imminently with same model.
Not sure what justifies spending 5x as much unless Base Camp on Everest is on the cards.
It's good to hear from a long-term user (which I certainly am not). I'd be pretty outraged if my tent couldn't stand up to drunken attacks. Send it back at once 😂
Hi @Primus 777 is your inner tent or outer damaged?
@@cook9648 Outer tent. Zip solid.
@@primus7776 Would you consider selling your inner tent as I’m looking for a spare?
The biggest different between the tents is you can buy a tent, a backpack, sleeping bag and sleeping mat all for the same price of a Terra Nova Southern Cross 1.
That is true! I also know a man who can buy all of those things for the price of an OEX Phoxx II 😂😉
That sky!
The second hand market is strong so as you said, tents hold their value better than you'd think. Not like you lose a huge amount of value if you use it a handful of times.
I really like the look of the SC1 but I like to get my pack in the tent with me, and I don't think you can do that with the SC1?
The sky almost looks fake doesn't it? Light levels were all over the place 🤣 I'd say you wouldn't get a rucksack inside the SC1 with you, no. I don't think I've brought my pack into any of my tents - it always lives in the vestibule. Is that to keep it off the wet ground? I may treat the SC1 to a footprint this winter time - solution!
Great video. I was in my SC1 at the weekend. In the summer I’ll be back in my vango UL1. The SC1 is an awesome tent isn’t it.
Thanks Mark. Yeah I'm really glad I took a punt and opted to try the SC1 out. I couldn't be without it now! Have you had yours long? And which of the Vango ULs do you have?
@@joinmeoutdoors I’ve had mine about 18 months I guess but it’s not been out nearly enough. I had a vango helium UL1. Quite similar dimensions to the SC1 but lighter for summer camps.
That's a good 500 g lighter then - good summer option 👍
Another great video James. Good diplomacy there mate. Good review.
Thank you Pete. Back with another camping video next Friday, fear not 😉 I hope we'll be seeing you out again soon? How's that Thermarest mat working out for you? Mine felt more comfortable last night than a lot of good beds I've slept in, so I hope it's serving you well!
@@joinmeoutdoors I’ve had a secondary foot injury metatarsal 😣so I’m still on the mend. Doing ok and feeling better but it’s a more ligament/joint related issue. I think it was a knock on from the broken toe changing the geometry of the foot slightly. It’s the next toe over from the break. Hopefully only a couple more weeks. Desperate to get out. Shouldn’t be long now. Might be interested in that phlox II.
@@unclepeteswildadventures Oh I'm sorry to hear that, Pete. Those secondary injuries can seemingly come out of nowhere. It sounds like you're getting on top it though, so heal up fast 👍 The Phoxx tents are real performers in windy conditions, and represent seriously good value for money. Is this the beginning of an almighty tent collection? 😉
Nice comparison and review. Thank you for sharing 👍
Thanks Arnstein. Have a good weekend ✌️
Good vid. Have mentioned before I have the S.Cross 2. 600 grams heavier for the extra space and 2 doorways it’s well worth it. Have searched around also and Terra nova seem to be out of stock so hard to to buy anything now.
The SC2 does look like an absolute cavern. Yes, Terra Nova seem to be struggling to keep up with all the demand at the moment - our tents must be worth a fortune at the moment! 🤣
@@joinmeoutdoors I agree about the worth but wouldn’t sell it nor change it for anything else 👍🏻
@@bimblingbackpacker7379 That's a good indicator that you've made the right purchase! 👌
Hey buddy, nice review, odd tents to compare, but actually, I totally get where you're coming from, it's great to have a comparison between 2 totally different tents and I have the Terra nova pioneer 2 and the naturehike cloud peak 2, different aspects I like about both, the price for a start, but sometimes paying a bit more does pay dividends. Great video buddy but where was the food cooking? Only joking 🙃 😬
Haha no food once again, sorry Richard! Yep these tents don't really occupy the same area in the market, but they are both 1 man tents (in my eyes) that you can happily take wild camping. I hope you'll have the Pioneer out for a try out soon! James.
@@joinmeoutdoors I have lol, I went to Aberystwyth last week and tried it out, I was sceptical at 1st, but I'm liking the tent now that I got in touch with terra nova about my concerns. I'm happy with it thankfully, now that I've had my mind put at rest, as they'd made a few mods with the 2022 version (not all good tbh) enjoy your week and the rest of your weekend 👍
@@IrelandRider I'm glad you've had it out for its maiden outing already. You didn't waste much time there! Also happy to hear that your initial concerns have been settled. Thanks, have a good week yourself ✌
We have the same gripe about the phoxx2v2 regarding the zipper, i found it annoying. There version i bought does have the outer part of the tent connected(i know some were modding it before), it also has 2 zips but for some reason it has a zip stopper that stops you moving both of the zips to the top, i dont really understand why. i guess they revised it so now its the Phoxx II v2.1
That's interesting, so the latest version comes with the inner and outer tents connected now, for an all-in-one pitch? Double-zipped doors are a great upgrade, though I don't understand why they'd limit them at the top like that. I'll have to keep an eye out for one the next time I'm in Go Outdoors 👍
@@joinmeoutdoors yeah and the way it attatches seems strong too, they also extended the sleeve the pole fits into and removed 2 of the clips that hook onto the poles (i beleive the older one has 2 clips on each side) the zip is weird at the bottom it has a zip that can move about a foot and a half, so the zips have to meet at the bottom there when the doors are closed, no idea why, great tent though, i had the nyx 200 before that hated that thing, felt good putting it in the bin!
Hi , back in the day when i was a leader for the DofE gold groups , we always bought Vango Hurricane's ( 2 man) . Do they still do that tent. As i remember it had Alumin poles and was really easy to pitch , even in the worst Scottish weather. Glencoe January and survived!!
Hi Angus. You must have a fair bit of experience under your belt! As far as I can tell, the model name "Hurricane" has been dropped by Vango now, but it seems to have had a few iterations over the years. I bought myself a Hurricane Alpha when I was about 10 years old in the early 90s. Apart from a split pole and some elderly seam tape (both of which I'd like to sort out), it's still a perfectly good tent. Glencoe is as good a place as any to give a tent a thorough test!! Thanks for watching James.👍
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You're almost unbeaten!! #dedicated
@Pinned Comment old enough to know better 👍
Top farmer! 👏👏👏
Yeah, wasn't sure how that would go! I was 20 metres from the coast path, tucked away in that corner (not on his crops) to keep out of the wind to give my microphone a fighting chance. It must be fun roaming around your fields in a Discovery!
The main thing for me is the pitch in 1 I'd say that's my main deal breaker.also 1 person tents I'd rather carry the extra weight and have a lot more room and the extra vestibule.but when just starting out I agree don't spend 2 much until you know you like it then yes I'd say pay the extra money and get a quality tent
Pitching in one just makes it all so easy, doesn't it? I fully understand people wanting more space - particularly if the weather means you end up stuck in your tent for a long time. Thanks for watching 👍 James.
Sorry where is this tent for 400??
Hi! I released this video 1.5 years ago. I bought my Southern Cross 1 from Cotswold Outdoor for £360 last year. It was £420 on the website, and I then got a 15% discount with my National Trust membership. Prices have changed since then, but the tents are currently £490 on the Terra Nova website. If you're looking to buy one for yourself, and if you feel that my videos have helped you in your research, you can follow the link in this video description to take you to the Southern Cross 1 before you order it. I would then receive a small commission (at no extra cost to you!). If only they could still be bought for under £400, hey? James.