I just bought this for some upcoming winter wild camps. It's been reduced on Terra Nova's website to £630. Much better price. Looking forward to using it. Great vid. Cheers
Great review of a fantastic tent. I can’t believe I cancelled my order of the Cross 1 a few years ago because I didn’t want to pay the £250 it was on offer for at the time. Can’t believe how much they have gone up
It's a fantastic tent but well over priced. Been using it for 5 years or so, the flanks catch moderate wind big time could do with extra guys on them. Like you mentioned tho it's a great 2 person tent. I picked it up for £320 new
Fantastic tent this. I've owned both the 1 and 2 but it's absolutely comical that terra nova have put a £900 RRP on this now. There are way better tents in every way than this available for hundreds of pounds less. Thanks for the review though, really enjoy these videos 😊
Thanks for the review. The poles need to be connected at the top for a better structure - I imagine it twists when its windy, putting extra stress on the outer... £900 plus £75 for footprint! What????
A serial owner of Trisar, Quasar and Hyperspace I have no issue with quality but, I do not like the fact the outer door does not have a fixing to stop it flapping, it does not easily allow cooking whilst in the rain and the inner door stowage to the side is a faff. Plus it looks cold if there is a lot of wind for a 4 season tent with no option to close off the mesh
The SC2 is a cracking tent its at £630 now, i still prefer my northern lite 2. But in fairness in the uk unless your smashing mountains in Scotland a lot, your better off just Sticking with the Wild country units there solid and can take a battering and save a packet! Probably why there rarely in stock 😅
Great vid Andy, I always put my poles together first before rolling out the tent and wondered why most people don't. If it's really windy or speed is needed for an inner pitch first in rain it has to be better surely?
I have identical but other brand tent 2P. It is fantaatic and very wind resistant. I used it on GR20 two yeaes ago and had survived 180 km/h wind gust... others with Nemos, MSRs were wiped away literary. I bought it for 120€ some years ago but then price ibcreased to 200€. Still of my favourite tents. It is spacius, so I bought 1P version which is roomy and 500 g lighter.
@@BackpackingUK Zajo Litio 2. The only differnce with the new model is that the flysheet is over the poles and red colour. I did a review of it two years ago.
Another first class objective review Andy. I was waiting forever for this tent to come into stock but sadly it never arrived. I’m hoping the new pegging point will reduce the sagging and flapping the large panel was prone to seeing. In truth I can’t see the new vent on the fly to know if it is any use or just a marketing pitch. Perhaps you could get TN to better display this. However the weight increase and shear cost is making me have second thoughts. I wanted a 2 person tent as a single person to give me some space especially during bad weather on long trips but weight is an issue, that’s why I never jumped at an Allak at 3.3kg. Perhaps the Pioneer 2 is a better compromise.
The Pioneer 2 is back in stock, is reduced and also includes a mat for £399. It's a bargain at this price! www.terra-nova.co.uk/products/pioneer-2-person-tent/?aff=backpackinguk
@@BackpackingUK Thanks Andy, I’ve decided the Pioneer is the one to go for basically because the others are heavier and pack larger. Your review swung the decision even though I was a little unsure when you said the tent deforms in wind, especially problematic combined with lashing rain. Size wise it’s ample for one even if the vestibule is a little tight. Thanks again… Ian
I too have just bought this for £630. I did my research, looked at scores of tents, and settled on this one. I have to say I am delighted with my choice. Yes, it's a lot of money, but it will do everything I need it to, and with a bit of love/luck, it will last me years. It is soooo simple to pitch and pack away, luxuriously spacious for one, and instils confidence no matter where I camp or what the weather's doing. If you can love a tent, I love the Southern Cross 2.
I’m looking at getting one but they are still going for around 900 reduced to 630 now. I see most comments are from around a year ago. I love the size of the porches on this that’s the only reason I keep looking at it. Any advice for me please as I’m new to solo camping out of the army but want a 2person all season robust tent with a bit of a porch to cook/store gear out of the rain
Great review! Not related to the tent but, I noticed how you've laced your boots up. I'm very much a newbie to wild camping hiking etc and just wondered if there's a reason for it. I've noticed it quite a few times when looking at different uploads of people camping Oh, and for the record, I don't have a boot fetish!! 😂😂😂😂
If you can get the Pioneer 2 with the free footprint for £399 that’s an absolute bargain! If you had to pay for retail price I’d go for the Southern Cross 2. Use the links in the description and the code if you are interested in buying as they’ll save you money 👍
Hi, do you think the 2023 updates to the tent are significant? I can buy an end of the line 2022 one for 80 quid less than the 2023 one and i wondered if you thought that was worth it? Its also interesting how the updates made the tent heavier, which might be another reason to buy a 2022 model?
I wish Terra Nove tents were displayed somewhere for me to look at. I want a tent for solo winter camps. More space for activities than 1 person. Only 1 entrance to reduce footprint. 4 season. Inner + outer pitch. Plenty of ventilation. looked at the Voyager. This ticks boxes but too pricey
I should note that the height of the 1 person tents is LESS than the 2 person tents. Taller people will have to crouch in the Helm 1 and Southern Cross 1.
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Hey Andy, great review. I'm looking to either get this tent or the Northern Lite 2. Can you tell me how you got the internal height to be 120cm? Terra Nova's site has it down as 98cm. I'd rather your version, obviously, 😉 but simply looking for some clarity. Space matters! Now £630 new, which is still a lot but achievable.
The new wild country panacea looks like the same basic design, ease of pitch and size fir considerably less cash, though the materials are not as technical.
That is a mad price for these Southern Cross' now, even on offer. I got a brand new Southern Cross 1 on offer in 2018 and I could sell it second hand now at a small profit. Madness
Hi Andy, great review, Thanks mate. Its a nice tent but wayyy overpriced I think, I'd stick with my amazing Helm 1 and 2. Both brilliant and great value quality tents. Although I really like Terra Nova tents, one design flaw that really bugs me, why have a white inner??? Put it this why, you wouldn't buy white underpants for the same reason! :} Why not take a leaf out of Vangos book with that lovely orange, not only will that colour resist stains more but in the morning sun, its so much easier on the eyes. I'd say come on Terra Nova, white!?? Its not rocket science...lol
Your right about the interior. Just like new trainers, they look amazing for a day and the first time it rains they look very second hand! I’ve already used my Nikwax products on this to clean it inside. I guess it just requires a little more maintenance.
I think thats a blunder making the tent heavier just for the sake of a few features that are not really important. You have to pay more money for that even though you may not want those features.
Great review as always but that tent is a rip off ! 3 x the price it should be wow who would buy this at the price? They’ve shot themselves in the foot with the pricing £350-£400 people would snap them up
It might be just me but I just don't trust tent pole structures that use "hub" connections, especially on a tent claiming to be suitable for 4 seasons. Strong wind and/or snow loading will cause issues with the tent pole ends at the hub connection point. On that I wouldn't buy this tent. Also Terra Nova needs to stop testing what the market will bear with it's pricing. It has clearly got its pricing wrong with this tent (and other models), something I think they may have recognised with their recent price reductions. Shame on Terra Nova though for trying it on with potential customers in the first place. They sell a quality product but the tents are certainly not in the same league as Hilleberg tents so they shouldn't try price them as if they were.
I've never heard of a 4 season (backpacking) tent having a snow skirt, I think I've seen more expedition style tents having them though, although they describe these as 5 season tents
I just bought this for some upcoming winter wild camps. It's been reduced on Terra Nova's website to £630. Much better price. Looking forward to using it. Great vid. Cheers
Great review of a fantastic tent. I can’t believe I cancelled my order of the Cross 1 a few years ago because I didn’t want to pay the £250 it was on offer for at the time. Can’t believe how much they have gone up
Nooooooo!
Always a great review 👍
It's a fantastic tent but well over priced. Been using it for 5 years or so, the flanks catch moderate wind big time could do with extra guys on them. Like you mentioned tho it's a great 2 person tent. I picked it up for £320 new
What?!?! It’s skyrocketed in price then. If you Google it you’ll still see when it retailed for just over £500 and that wasn’t that long ago.
Prefer my quasar just
Got its solid
Fantastic tent this. I've owned both the 1 and 2 but it's absolutely comical that terra nova have put a £900 RRP on this now. There are way better tents in every way than this available for hundreds of pounds less.
Thanks for the review though, really enjoy these videos 😊
Thanks for sharing. Did you find the height too low on your 1 person SC2?
@@BackpackingUK I'm only 5ft 6 so it was fine for me but anything taller and you're in for an incredibly cosy night. Good tent though 🙂
Thanks for the review. The poles need to be connected at the top for a better structure - I imagine it twists when its windy, putting extra stress on the outer... £900 plus £75 for footprint! What????
The bands stop it from twisting and they also make sure you can close the doors properly. There's no getting away from it, it's an expensive tent!
A serial owner of Trisar, Quasar and Hyperspace I have no issue with quality but, I do not like the fact the outer door does not have a fixing to stop it flapping, it does not easily allow cooking whilst in the rain and the inner door stowage to the side is a faff. Plus it looks cold if there is a lot of wind for a 4 season tent with no option to close off the mesh
Very well put together video they really improved that interior ! Looks like a Palace
It’s a stunning tent, but I guess it should be for the price.
Nice video mate, thanks. A friend of mine has that same tent for use in New Zealand, and he is very fond of it.
It’s genuinely really good 👍
The SC2 is a cracking tent its at £630 now, i still prefer my northern lite 2.
But in fairness in the uk unless your smashing mountains in Scotland a lot, your better off just Sticking with the Wild country units there solid and can take a battering and save a packet! Probably why there rarely in stock 😅
Great vid Andy, I always put my poles together first before rolling out the tent and wondered why most people don't. If it's really windy or speed is needed for an inner pitch first in rain it has to be better surely?
I can’t disagree with that and I have no idea why everyone doesn’t do it that way!
What brand/model is the pile zip jacket you're wearing?
I have identical but other brand tent 2P. It is fantaatic and very wind resistant. I used it on GR20 two yeaes ago and had survived 180 km/h wind gust... others with Nemos, MSRs were wiped away literary. I bought it for 120€ some years ago but then price ibcreased to 200€. Still of my favourite tents. It is spacius, so I bought 1P version which is roomy and 500 g lighter.
sorry for typos... phone...
What make and model is it?
@@BackpackingUK Zajo Litio 2. The only differnce with the new model is that the flysheet is over the poles and red colour. I did a review of it two years ago.
Wow! That’s too much dosh. I would buy a Hilleberg. I will stick to my pioneer and star light. Great review Andy!
The Pioneer is back is stock too. At £399 with a footprint it’s looking like an absolute bargain!
Another first class objective review Andy. I was waiting forever for this tent to come into stock but sadly it never arrived. I’m hoping the new pegging point will reduce the sagging and flapping the large panel was prone to seeing. In truth I can’t see the new vent on the fly to know if it is any use or just a marketing pitch. Perhaps you could get TN to better display this. However the weight increase and shear cost is making me have second thoughts. I wanted a 2 person tent as a single person to give me some space especially during bad weather on long trips but weight is an issue, that’s why I never jumped at an Allak at 3.3kg. Perhaps the Pioneer 2 is a better compromise.
The Pioneer 2 is back in stock, is reduced and also includes a mat for £399. It's a bargain at this price! www.terra-nova.co.uk/products/pioneer-2-person-tent/?aff=backpackinguk
@@BackpackingUK Thanks Andy, I’ve decided the Pioneer is the one to go for basically because the others are heavier and pack larger. Your review swung the decision even though I was a little unsure when you said the tent deforms in wind, especially problematic combined with lashing rain. Size wise it’s ample for one even if the vestibule is a little tight. Thanks again… Ian
@@Ian-bq1tr how are you getting on with it. I'm caught between that and the helm 2
I too have just bought this for £630.
I did my research, looked at scores of tents, and settled on this one.
I have to say I am delighted with my choice.
Yes, it's a lot of money, but it will do everything I need it to, and with a bit of love/luck, it will last me years.
It is soooo simple to pitch and pack away, luxuriously spacious for one, and instils confidence no matter where I camp or what the weather's doing.
If you can love a tent, I love the Southern Cross 2.
I’m looking at getting one but they are still going for around 900 reduced to 630 now. I see most comments are from around a year ago. I love the size of the porches on this that’s the only reason I keep looking at it. Any advice for me please as I’m new to solo camping out of the army but want a 2person all season robust tent with a bit of a porch to cook/store gear out of the rain
If you like to keep some kit in with you, check out the Pioneer 2 as well 👍
@@BackpackingUK thanks buddy for getting back to me. Is there a problem with the outer to inner touching tho on one side?
Just too expensive regardless of how good it is. Too me, the poles are also too skinny. Thank you for another excellent review.
I know what you mean, even another .5mm would have made a difference.
Great review! Not related to the tent but, I noticed how you've laced your boots up. I'm very much a newbie to wild camping hiking etc and just wondered if there's a reason for it.
I've noticed it quite a few times when looking at different uploads of people camping
Oh, and for the record, I don't have a boot fetish!! 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 I’m going to do some beginner shorts soon showing just that 👍
does anyone know what material those clips on the red pole are made of?
Great review Andy, But a grand lol. I think Terra Nova are dreaming....
Great review,been looking at this tent and the pioneer 2 which one would you go for cheers
If you can get the Pioneer 2 with the free footprint for £399 that’s an absolute bargain! If you had to pay for retail price I’d go for the Southern Cross 2. Use the links in the description and the code if you are interested in buying as they’ll save you money 👍
@Backpacking uk im after the sc 2 from outlet is this the same as that?
Probably. It’ll say if it’s the updated version, usually on the first line.
Great looking tent. My ferrino force 2 does the same job for a few extra grams and a whole lot less cash. Does anyone else use the ferrino force 2?.
Hi, do you think the 2023 updates to the tent are significant? I can buy an end of the line 2022 one for 80 quid less than the 2023 one and i wondered if you thought that was worth it? Its also interesting how the updates made the tent heavier, which might be another reason to buy a 2022 model?
One of the 2023 updates are hoods on both SC1 and SC2. This alone, and better pegs, add weight.
@@BackpackingUKthanks for the quick reply! So overall you think 2023 at £630 is better than 2022 at £550?
I wish Terra Nove tents were displayed somewhere for me to look at. I want a tent for solo winter camps. More space for activities than 1 person. Only 1 entrance to reduce footprint. 4 season. Inner + outer pitch. Plenty of ventilation. looked at the Voyager. This ticks boxes but too pricey
I should note that the height of the 1 person tents is LESS than the 2 person tents. Taller people will have to crouch in the Helm 1 and Southern Cross 1.
More importantly, what fleece is that? 👌
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Hello, Tell me please, the poles from Yunan or DAC?
Yunan.
See video at part where he has just finished pegging out. He shows close up of pole joining piece.
@@jimmyjohnstone5878 Thank you. I have seen this hub. I hoped that the poles from DAC.
@@dicommoscow9031 oddly they use dac poles on the cheaper northern lite 2.
Great review Andy 👍
Love the look of that bad boy.
However that is so much money !
Cheers Graham
It’s a cracking tent, it’s a lot of money too 😅
Nice review. Would you take this or the MSR? Or something else?
This all day long. It weighs more than the Access 2 but at least it’s a reliable 4 season tent!
How much! At that price I don’t get it , it’s not lightweight and I wouldn’t class it 4 season either .
Just about to bite the bullet & buy the one man version.
Have you camped in this tent before? Can you give me your honest opinion.
Check out my other videos.
Dream tent
It’s got to be one of the best tents out there!
£900? Not going to happen I'm afraid. At that price 'id expect it to put itself up. Great review as always though.
😂
Hey Andy, great review. I'm looking to either get this tent or the Northern Lite 2. Can you tell me how you got the internal height to be 120cm? Terra Nova's site has it down as 98cm. I'd rather your version, obviously, 😉 but simply looking for some clarity. Space matters! Now £630 new, which is still a lot but achievable.
It’s probably 120cm top of fly, definitely not inner. 98cm sounds about right. Still lots of space above my head sitting bolt upright 👍
The new wild country panacea looks like the same basic design, ease of pitch and size fir considerably less cash, though the materials are not as technical.
The Terra Nova Northern Lite 2 is like the Panacea 👍
@@BackpackingUK Yep, my mistake! I'm now trying to decide between this, the Northern Lite and just saving some money with the panacea.
That blue pole in the middle of the vestibule would get on my nerves!! The bathtub walls are tiny!!
Lovely piece of kit but Terra Nova have but an unrealistic price tag on it ! Great review as always.
Fair enough! If you use BACKPACKINGUK you get 20% off at the checkout. Same applies to Wild Country 👍
That is a mad price for these Southern Cross' now, even on offer. I got a brand new Southern Cross 1 on offer in 2018 and I could sell it second hand now at a small profit. Madness
£900 what a joke it's worth £350 tops some mugs will buy it though😆😆
Yip there will be 😩
Hi Andy, great review, Thanks mate. Its a nice tent but wayyy overpriced I think, I'd stick with my amazing Helm 1 and 2. Both brilliant and great value quality tents. Although I really like Terra Nova tents, one design flaw that really bugs me, why have a white inner??? Put it this why, you wouldn't buy white underpants for the same reason! :} Why not take a leaf out of Vangos book with that lovely orange, not only will that colour resist stains more but in the morning sun, its so much easier on the eyes. I'd say come on Terra Nova, white!?? Its not rocket science...lol
Your right about the interior. Just like new trainers, they look amazing for a day and the first time it rains they look very second hand! I’ve already used my Nikwax products on this to clean it inside. I guess it just requires a little more maintenance.
Same price as a Hilleberg Soulo? You've got to be kidding!?
I think thats a blunder making the tent heavier just for the sake of a few features that are not really important. You have to pay more money for that even though you may not want those features.
I don’t think you’ll be the only one thinking that!
The cost is prohibitive. I can get a comparable DCF tent for less that will weigh 1/4 what this weighs.
Please share 👍
Great review as always but that tent is a rip off ! 3 x the price it should be wow who would buy this at the price? They’ve shot themselves in the foot with the pricing £350-£400 people would snap them up
But it doesn’t fit 2 wide pads..! Honestly the tent manufacturers need to wake up.
You really want to be looking at 3P tents for 2 wide pads.
They took away the option to zip up the mesh doors then rammed the price up the price is ridiculous. Way way overpriced should be half that price
It might be just me but I just don't trust tent pole structures that use "hub" connections, especially on a tent claiming to be suitable for 4 seasons. Strong wind and/or snow loading will cause issues with the tent pole ends at the hub connection point. On that I wouldn't buy this tent. Also Terra Nova needs to stop testing what the market will bear with it's pricing. It has clearly got its pricing wrong with this tent (and other models), something I think they may have recognised with their recent price reductions. Shame on Terra Nova though for trying it on with potential customers in the first place. They sell a quality product but the tents are certainly not in the same league as Hilleberg tents so they shouldn't try price them as if they were.
Nice tent but WAY overpriced!! Sorry, £500 max!
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Its great tent ,But to expensive.....
Without a snow skirt it is not a four season tent.
Absolute nonsense!
I've never heard of a 4 season (backpacking) tent having a snow skirt, I think I've seen more expedition style tents having them though, although they describe these as 5 season tents