Spent a YEAR on my 40k Chapter Master... and started again...
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Thanks for the business, Jazza! By the way, the dreamcatcher is dope- really brings home the theme. And what big claws you have!
You did an absolutely phenomenal job
You're a legend my dude!
@@livkerstain3470 Thanks so much!!
@@TabletopTime Too kind- glad you like it! Let me know if you want to make more stuff!
Stellar work!
I can’t believe how loud my gasp was when you said the Ojibwa nation was your inspiration for your Space Bears. As someone born and raised in the Turtle Mountain Reservation, I cannot express how excited and seen this made me feel. Big Thank You to you Jazza. I never would’ve thought I’d say that about anything Warhammer but I loved this surprise.
Im really hqppy for you. Thats why i love the macabian jannisares guard regiment as a turk. Wish those guys got more lore
0:47 "... both the dumbest, and most epic..." That pretty much sums up my feelings about how 40k should be approached.
That!!!
Yeah that is like my favorite thing about the setting. Like how they still have melee combat, while having these huge guns all over the place
Lol. I hadn't seen this when I posted the same thing. Great minds think alike.
Nah datz da orkz!
Now I'm just imagining how their librarian equivalent will look like, or their chaplains and apothecaries... much hype and many enthusiasms
YES I want to see some more conversions!
They gotta have an actual bear in the army
@@stevenmoskalev7971 Or bear like creature
I'd love to see a Shamanic take on their Librarians/Master of The Rituals...
@@flaviomonteiro1414 yes! But i am wondering on how to male it distinct from the spscewolfs runespriest. Maybe a Bearhead as a cap?
Edit:spelled bear wrong...
I'm sorry but the iron halo dreamcatcher is potentially the coolest blending of ideas I've seen for a while.
It is next level, and frankly inspiring. I only commented because I am also a Rory, and recently had my entire shelf that contained my very fluffy 7th Company Raven Guard fall far and land case-side first on hardwood. _It's bad_ ... They are mostly smashed. I call it "The Dropsite Massacre"...
Anyway, being around totemic ravens from native tribes, and having a 3d printer-- it's high time I reforge my ravens into a more creative subchapter.
Edit: What I meant to say, my fellow Rory; is there is nothing to apologize for. Good ideas are good.
@@attemptedunkindness3632 hell yeah, Rory’s unite !
I love the unintentionally connection between the dream catcher motif and the fact that the space bears hibernate. It's a masterpiece!
I've gotta say it - the beard was something I anticpated missing but seeing the sculpt come together just blew me away. It was like a piece of the puzzle that I didn't even know existed came a long and slotted into place. It's really a new dimension.
It looks shit, the whole chapter looks shit what are you on about
@@TimmsyTFG cool story bro
@@TimmsyTFG it's embarrassing that you're in your 30s and behaving this way
@@TimmsyTFG Does being absolutely insufferable make you feel better about yourself?
Jazza I feel like you understate yourself with this whole project.
I have not seen someone with so much creative potential being so invested in his custom space marine chapter
Really great you got Kris involved, that's very special. I'm sure you'll cherish that call and what you learned when you look back at this army when its done. Really proud to see more diversity in models from my friends... and they look so cool.
He's such a cool dude, and was so generous with his time. I'm so in love with my chapter, now that I feel like we've nailed the chapter master! (It was a group effort after all!)
@@TabletopTimegot some lore ideas for Oosan Ursa's armour
Armour of the Ancestors: an ornate suit of armour made with the design of the tribe he was born in; aloft its backpack is a Psychic Channel which helps him control and hone his psychic abilities. It is rumoured this armour was designed by the primarch Roboute Gulliman himself, but this is only speculation.
The Claws of Judgement: these twin ornate lightning claws are designed on the traditional weapons of Oosan Ursa's tribe, they were given to him by Guilliman the moment he became Chapter Master of the Astra Primursa. These claws are designed so only Ursa himself can use them, a choice that was made due to the Primarch respecting the warrior and his patience, respectful and honourable nature.
This dude knows his stuff with the...green stuff!
I am not worthy oh master of the paint. I appreciate everything you have taught us throughout the years. Your knowledge is priceless. Thank you God bless.
@@autumnhannah2368 thank you!!
I bought the stl files for your bears because the claws are PERFECT for both my space wolves and my warp talons for my night lords so thank you for making such an amazing pack
Hey question about the claw stl, is it possible to create a left and right claw? I saw that there were only 3 claws (of the same arm) on the webshop. I hope there are options for a right and left handed claw, 'cause then I'll buy the stl files as well! :)
@@WFY742 with the stl file you would just flip the file in the software of your choice. That way all the sculpts are left and right handed
@@jacobheuving4313 Thx for the reply! I haven't got a 3D printer nor the experience with the software. I do have a buddy who is into printing, so I can ask him to print the claws for me!
Hard disagree with the take that your chapter master should be entirely yours. As per usual the best art is the piece that makes you happiest.
Jazza said at the end that he feels like this is what he (the chapter master) was always meant to be, he is clearly happy with this direction?
@@LucaLeRatt This comment was in reference to the statement earlier in the video where Jazza said he felt like some people would say that he should do his chapter master entirely himself.
@@RagnarTheGrey gotcha! Sorry for the misunderstanding.
@@LucaLeRatt All good man.
@@RagnarTheGrey Holy shit... Civilly conducted interactions on the internet? That's _gotta_ be illegal somehow.
If you’re gonna have representation this is how you do it: research, respect, and molding design elements and story around the character’s specific ethnicity in a way that makes your whole work cooler, not forcing it with 0 effort for media and internet clout. Well done Jazza
Ok lol you scared me i read this before the video started and i almost thought you were mad at jazza for doing something wrong and the "well done jazza" was sarcastic so im glad thats not the case
Now he and his chapter feels more real than many official ones.
How come?
@@TheKlabim The added touch of diversity.
@@TheKlabim think he's meaning the fact that most chapters are just slightly different tactics and a different coat of paint. Yeah the main ones are different with specific heroes and ornaments etc on their armour but other then them the difference isn't all that much between the others
@@brandonchaplin9782 no difference at all apart from lore, rules, strategy, customisation sets and every founding legion having their own theme and models.
Did you see the black Templar releases this week? 😂 🤷♂️
@@lordofhykra6150 they're also one of the main ones....
God I love this collaboration, can’t wait to see this painted, love the space bears
I just wanted to say as a member of the ojibwe tribe,, specifically the Makwa(bear) clan,, I was worried and excited to hear your choice in tribe.. But I wanna say that I think you did a great job at reaching out and researching,, it means a lot when people from other nations take an interest in my culture.. I cannot wait to see the final work and much respect.. gokwaadenimo
That is so awesome...and as good as he looked already, I love the changes to the final result! Looking forward to next update, and seeing where Dave takes his team!
WOW! A fantastic journey with an even better ending! I can't wait for him to be painted and to see him on the battlefield. Love the dreamcatcher and AMAZING work on the feathers. They look incredible!
can't wait to see that painted! your chapter is looking so distinct and original, love your choice to incorporate Native American elements into it.
I just watched the Video on Las Light Creatives and I must say, what an amazing work of art. I really love the outcome, really amazing! Also, Jazza, thank you for bringing other great Artists into the spotlight, it shows how much you appreciate other content creators and artists. Much Love from the Czech Republic
This has revitalized my love for an alternate heresy legion I’ve made that’s centered around Native American culture. I will be heavily revisiting their lore and aesthetics in order to bring them to life and maybe drag them into normal 40k.
I love the head switch but I weirdly miss the beard, I think it sold his age whereas the clean shaven look makes him bit too young for a papa bear. Still looks good, just voicing my shoddy opinion.
Though the dreamcatcher detail being made from an Iron Halo is amazing detail (Perhaps he believes making it out of a shield generator will grant him further protection agaimst the warp?)
This is 100% correct, before the chapter master had story behind him, the look of history but now he just looks like some generic indian guy.
Kinda sad that Jazza strayed away from his initial process of aesthetic into lore, not the other way around.
Well all he needs is wrinkles and white hair right?
@@lickmynuts82 how does having a beard give him more of a story? And what's the difference between a generic native American guy and a generic Nordic guy?
@@jerryligairi1078 you ever played GoW4? Hell, have you seen any promo images of the game? Giving Kratos a beard did so much for his character, not just for aesthetics but for character growth. Before Hazza had an idea for a character that has gone through hardships, battled the elements, overcome tragedies to stand at the top of their chapter. Now we see a clean shaven, no battlescars generic indian leading it, such lost potential for storytelling.
@@lickmynuts82 Kratos was in a Nordic setting in GoW4 wasn't he? You can literally google images of battle hardened Native Americans = NO BEARD. Scars can be added using a heated piece of metal. The model is literally made of plastic. Wrinkles and scars don't tell enough of a story for you without a beard? 2 words for you....Marneus Calgar.
I really can't wait to see what more comes out of this, it's truly exceptional work!
ABSOLUTELY EPIC!!!!!!!!!! LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE The dream catcher! I dunno why I now keep seeing a bear riding a war horse, with all the symbols painted on him for battle.. lol! Amazing job Jazza!!! 👏
Literally perfect. Great representation, great effort to be respectful, great design for the chapter, and great humour and lore in typical Jazza style. Just absolutely blown away with how great this is :D
Hey. 3d printing friend here. 2 things.
1. You're over curing your resin bits. You could tell by the way the supports broke off. Keep those things in uv light for like two minutes tops.
2. Break the supports off with warm water before you cure the piece. It makes it 1000x better and easier. It also leaves less scaring.
Always a fan of real-world cultural inspirations in fantasy. Drawing on the native american inspirations is a great way to set them apart from space wolves.
The dream catcher connection with the warp is such a cool idea! Can’t wait for the lore video to see what they’re all about.
It's cool to see other cultures being represented but I also think that people need to settle down when it comes to "Oh you used this design from this culture but you HAVE to do it this way now." There's a lot of "cultural appropriation" screaming and various other over sensitivity. People a quick to jump down others throats or claim ill intent. Etc. It's okay to take several different similar cultures and throw them together to make something new/your own. I thought the Nordic version was super cool and fitting given bears and berserkers but it's your chapter and therefore you can do as you like. it turned out great regardless.
The space bears project is becoming more awesome with every new release! Thank you so much for showing what is possible in this hobby!
I never comment on youtube but this video of yours really hit me, I'm pretty huge into warhammer and the hobby and have been for a long time. I'm Cree-Metis from Canada and I also have some Ojibwe ancestors and I think this is absolutely amazing and heartfelt that you chose to not only represent us indigenous people in the hobby but as your chapter master, it doesn't matter what tribe someones from because this is huge for representation. This felt so cool and good to see in this hobby space and just in general as an indigenous person so really from the bottom of my heart Jazza, kinanâskomitin, maarsii and Thank You.
As someone with Native American ancestory and not a drop of Nordic blood, let me say, don't feel guilted into changing your vision because people complained.
Would a Native American chapter be interesting? Sure. Necessary? No. And it would probably fit better if it was its own thing and not this weird mix. (It's actually a concept I've sketched out before) Native Americans don't have a monopoly on the diamond pattern. You don't owe us anything.
Would’ve been better if they were actually Native American (more leather, colorful clothing and more spears) and not Nordic bears with Native American heads and shields
That is so cool. The Chance made the Mini much better
Dude this is beautiful! The figure itself and the journey you've been on. It's so cool and looks amazing!
Chickasaw man here, I can tell you i love the bears.
I love the attention to detail you have and your respect and willingness to learn about another culture to represent them in the best possible way. Cannot wait to see it painted!
I'm really loving this project, it makes me want to make my own space bears but I can't do it justice with the sculpting. Also mad respect for taking on feedback even if it might be difficult to implement changes, and especially for the time and effort you put in to make sure you're respecting the culture. In the end you've made something really unique, I especially love the iron halo dreamcatcher and his long braid.
The understanding towards more native looking bears is sick as heck! Absolutely love the space bears, and Much support from a Lakota native American
Incredible sculpt and absolutely amazing how much you put into the lore side. Can't wait to see how it develops, incredible sculpt Last Light Creative.
Hah, okay was enjoying this video but, you went off the rails with your reasoning for changing the face is... hilarious.
Jazza, I really appreciate your value for including other creators in your creative process. You’re ability to honor the creators around you and look for opportunities to boost them up is a sign of a really healthy and long lasting culture for your studio and your projects. Love you brother
Wow, this is the earliest I've ever been to any RUclips video! So glad it's a Tabletop Time video!
Love the changes. In fact they seem to better flow with your lore potential.
If the bears have the drawback and curse of hibernation.. entering the long sleep.. those who come back can be your librians or dream striders. Your chaplain Corp can be the shamans and weavers who make all the totems and dream catchers to ward off the curse and guide the chapter.
My main thought tends towards identifying their main chapter characteristic. They thus far seem like major closer combatants, perhaps further that with specialist units akin to terminators with boarding shield and single claw nicknamed the Ursine Cadre or the Antrum Defensorem.
I personally would suggest to keep their curse far from the wolves and have no worgen wolfkin, etc. Maybe early signs be transformative? Fingernails becoming longer and harder, more claw like. Maybe jaw and nose defending to become more snout like.
So much potential. Excited to see where you take it.
I hate it when people take things from this world into my hobby space. But thats just me and my hobby space and how you handeld it comes over as you like the chance so thats good. Looks great man
Happy to see you've taken the feedback on board, and the Chapter Master looks awesome!
Okay, that change to your big boy has taken him from "Space Wolves, but Bears!" to something REALLY unique. Well done!
My family calls me bear and I had an idea to make space bears for 40k. I come online to look, lo and behold. You did it and you did it amazing. I'm just gonna steal your bits, kay?
I'm going to 3d print bears my marines can ride like the bikes. Keep up the excellent work!
This is absolutely stunning. It feels like the perfect combination of space wolves and native American. It just feels right, hats off to you for doing representation the right way.
Oh my god! Outstanding work again Jazza! Really excited to see these models in a batrep sometime...maybe...please?!
@Tabletop Time You're an extremely gracious and intellectually curious person. I really appreciate the effort you've made and I appreciate the fact that your conversation with Kris yielded some exciting new book recommendations.
Sincerely though, you've gone above and beyond. Fan for life.
My own chapter is heavily inspired by Native American culture. I struggle to find suitable bits that aren't offensive stereotypes, so I really appreciate you taking that step forward. You have the power to make a difference and you actually chose to do that. I really respect and admire that. Not only that, but you're making my personal life easier by making these bits accessible to me as well lol. Looking forward to getting my hands on those new faces, and I can't wait to see more Space Bears in the future. Maybe they'll meet my Braveguard chapter on the battlefield one day.
This came out so incredible! I live in one of the few parts of America left with a very large Native population, and while it is not my culture, it's one that I have a huge respect and admiration for, and I'm glad to see it reaching across the world and being introduced to new audiences. The new face on your chapter master makes him feel so much more alive!
THIS.
The attention to detail, not only in the art, but also in the real-world inspiration, is why Jazza is my favourite youtube artist.
Big love to you and the rest of the Tabletop Time crew going forward
Fundamentally disagree with the presentation of the first point about whitewashing, cultural appropriation etc. But I fully agree with the decision to make them native American because it makes sense and helps the chapter be more unique.
*Ojibwe: before Ontario was mainstream*
This is very cool Jazza. Great to see Kris on here, too!
Hell yeah a Native American Warhammer character master that's so badass I'm glad I'm a Native this is the coolest thing ever
Awesome how you use your large platform to boost smaller youtubers! So awesome to see!
Bravo on getting so much research and advice on the Astra Primursa culture influences. Being able to do that rather than staying in the "comfort zone" of fantasy archetypes makes their story that much more impressive, compelling, and respectful to their inspiration. You should be proud of what you're creating :)
(Also the sculpts are just insanely badass haha, keep it up!)
I could watch this a million times the layout down to the detail of this video if phenomenal and I love the space bears and thank you jazz’s for inspiring everyone who watches your videos and if you ever read this comment thank you
Well done Jazza!! Nice to see you listened to your audience and made some adjustments. Your chapter master is epic and I can’t wait to see how he looks painted!!
looks good. did not really see the need for the changes but if that is what you feel you needed to do i can respect it, Still looks really good either way
Amazing to watch your process and how it ended up! I can’t wait to see how you tackle a custom dreadnought sculpt 👀 I feel like hibernating dreads would be perfect for this chapter 😜
The mini was awesome before, but the new head and dreamcatcher make this mini more thematic and distinctive. Kudos!
Your tweaks made it much more original and better. It's not just a Space Woof-variant now, but something new and distinct. Great work!
My one concern is that people will see this and start demanding changes for "representation" from other creators. I as a minority never take offense when poeple borrow from or use elements of our culture in any part. But you as a creator should be free to create your vision as you see it. Regardless of where you grab elements in part from other cultures. I would understand if your weapons and armor look a one to one look of a specific cultures warriors or tradional dress but in the case of space marines that is unlikely ever to happen. I for one have no problem with either direction but I will always advocate for the creators freedom of expression. I love your space bears concept and will definitely be supporting your work regarldles.
Brilliant stuff! I'm so glad you listened and changed what you were doing - it's so, so, so good to see. Well done.
The sculpting work LastLight did was amazing. At the same time, I am so thrilled that you and Puppetswar took the time to create some native-looking faces for the Bears. Even though I miss the beard, I adore the way the chapter master came out. I love his new name too. Another comment on this video said that the Space Bears feel more real and complete than most official chapters and I second that comment.
Fantastic work, and the detail with which you went through the process of SHOWING how you handled the prospect of learning more and applying it to your work for the purposes of representation is great. The finished model is amazing, and I hope all of this goes forward to color any other releases you do for the Astra Primursa!
This went from "nice' to 'jawdroppingly amazingly' really really fast 😍😍😍
Gotta love how you have improved with the critic and adept it so great to make it a better chapter and including. So wonderful to see and it are making a wonderful chapter. Keep the great work going and that wonderful childish enthuism at top. Lovly work!
9:11 I had no idea that there was a story behind those amazing sculpts ! 8))
I just bought the STLs recently, reduced them to 90% scale (they are made for space marines after all) and started to create a team of natives snipers for my imperial guard's legion !
Man, you've started to inspire me to create a custom chapter of my own, which are currently unnamed. The theme is inspired by Draugr from Norse Mythology. Their backstory goes thatthe whole chapter got mysteriously wiped out, but later returned like nothing happened when everyone could CLEARLY see something had. Basically they were so stubborn they flat out rejected death and got away with it because it's 40k. Now they're little more than creepy glowy-eyed skeletons in power armor, and yet they still show the same loyalty to the Emperor that they did before. Thoughts?
That sounds pretty interesting, I'm assuming they're kinda like the Legion of The Damned but with a Nordic influence?
The dream catcher was a nice touch
God damn Jazza you always go above and beyond with these videos, fantastic work
Your Astra Primaursa chapter the TTT gang all done a wonderful work with the minis from the Leviathan box set and I think I can say for your fans out there we all look forward to the day when you feel ready to paint him and we Chapter Master Oosan Ursa leading his chapter to glory and honour.
Looks great. As a Native person, I appreciate the effort. As a hobbyist, I appreciate the sculpt.
This is one of the main reasons I keep coming back to this channel! It's so inspiring. Made my own custom Death Guard after the first Space Bears video.
I think this must be my favourite video of yours to date. The time you spent to research this in the correct way and to ensure the finished product was perfect for your own vision without offending any culture or race is highly commendable. Hats off to you, sir. I haven't played 40K in years, but I'm so tempted to collect a small sleuth/pack of bears. And as there are many species of bear in the world, options are extensive. Keep up the great work, and thank you for all the content.
I loved it! It's gave me inspiration to start an old project at mine. A Space Marine chapter based on the Aztecs and Incas...
Honestly, huge props for not only making the change, but listening to/being open with a commonly ignored criticism of fantasy. I’ve seen so many people halfass using one or two aspects of a culture and then completely forgetting about it, it’s refreshing to see some do it correctly. Also it looks fantastic and the iron halo dream catcher is a perfect mashup.
So much better and looks amazing!
This is so great, I love watching the development of this chapter!!! 💪
Holy cow!! The Last Light Creative green stuff addition to your figure is SO beautiful and dynamic and detailed!
So cool love the papa bear joke
I really appreciate how much effort you put in to handle your usage of Native American inspirations with care, it's nice to see. Great work Jazza!
Your dedication and drive to not only include but celebrate cultures is so wonderful to see, and makes me have faith in humanity for once
Thank you so much for not just glossing over the Native American detail with the looks. I live in an area with a huge native population, and I love seeing these people getting the love they deserve.
Paint it, paint it, paint it
Loved the video!
Truly incredible. Thank you for also approaching this with dignity and care. Thank you for not clout chasing like some other tabletop influencers by using diversity as a buzzword but actually reading, learning and applying Native culture in your army. You and your army are an example many people in the tabletop community should follow. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing more of the Space Bears!!!
I got chills when you added the dream catcher. You killed it Jazza!!! Excellent work!
My God-Emperor that iron halo/dream catcher was such a good idea, the way it fits the narrative of being a protection from the warp is sooo nice, i think i speak for a lot of people when i say i can BEARLY wait to see him painted in his full Glory, beating fools to death with those Claws
Love love love that journey you took both personally and in the hobby for this chapter
Congratulations on your concept. Really well done, well researched. A great way to appreciate Native American culture. Well done.
Amazing work! I love the turn you've taken with this video and this makes the chapter a lot more distinct from the space wolves too, which is a nice boon.
I seem to remember from the Deathwing space hulk game the dark angels of the first company had a Native American concept. Maybe your bears should be an off shoot of those warriors when the dark angels came back to clam the terminator armor from that story line and drop the space wolf association.
Bravo. BRAVO! Incredible job in representing others. I love it
Jazza, thank you for this video and the humility it took to admit the need for a change. I just got into this world of miniatures and have been looking into something that represents me, and this has inspired me to make my own chapter that re[resents ME. Can't wait to start building my neo aztec-mesoamerican chapter!
Never has a mini given me a nerdgasm as intense as this one. Inspiring stuff. Can't wait to see him painted.
Jazza you bloody legend! I had some of the same concerns of representation and I am so happy that you took those comments seriously, and man it clearly payed off in the creative process. You're an inspiration!
A great Idea, I'm so interested in the native american culture and really want to learn more about it!