Update videos on these filters: Flow rate test for these filters: ruclips.net/video/7wTTmCSrbvY/видео.html 8 months with the Fluval 307 ruclips.net/video/TYun32nmn94/видео.html 5 months with the Oase Biomaster 350 ruclips.net/video/AoEHDl_1D3k/видео.html 10 years with the Eheim Professional 3 ruclips.net/video/kmIxigo0hwA/видео.html
sorry to be so offtopic but does any of you know a way to get back into an Instagram account?? I was dumb forgot the login password. I would appreciate any tricks you can give me
@Zavier Garrett thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm trying it out now. Seems to take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
I've been using an Oase Biomaster Thermo 350 for a year now this is the model with built in heater. It's so easy to clean the pre filter weekly and I only do the main cannister about every 4 months or so. Can't see any bad points with it, have had no problems with it . Love the fact that I don't have to hide a heater in the tank as well.
Oh absolutely, its good all around. Just the flow rate’s a issue for me. But that just means I gotta trim more and keep things open or get a powerhead. Otherwise love it
I did that too, tested and didint give much improvement. Although pond guru did use a bigger pipe. Yea I mean as long as the tank isnt overgrown, its good to go. Still love it
I've owned all three canister filters. Eheim classic is the quitest but a pain to clean and prime. Fluval was a good canister but I had impeller problems with it I currently own the oase biomaster 600 and after doing a few modifications on it can say its brilliant. Takes 10 mins to clean the pre filter and I clean the media trays every 6 months!! Water is always perfect 😁
Eheim used to be the best but recent models have taken a real dip in quality. I have always had Eheim filters but now I've just bought a Fluval and am very happy.
My only issue in fluval vs eheim is media capacity. I have three eheim pro 5e 700s (returning today, they're garbage) as well as an FX4 and fluval 406. The one eheim holds more media than the FX4 and 406 combined, it's insane. If only they would just stay running instead of randomly shutting off.
If I could afford the Oase I would absolutely upgrade. Just like you said, the ease of cleaning is there but just have to upgrade all the media for it to be optimal, $$$. Awesome video.
for the Eheim put the media in media bags then it is easy to take the media out to get to the mechanical media and it holds just as much when you put it in a bag or the same
never used the eheim but have used the Oase biomaster 650 and Fluval 407. My favourite is the oase. The Fluval is well made and cheaper with ease of use but the Oase simply has more space for biomedia compared to the 07 range making this the better choice for me.
Nice review. I own the classic eheim 2217, the 106 and 206 from fluval and an aquael ultramax 2000 and by far the ultramax is the best. Probably the best underrated filter out there. Similar to oase, way, way cheaper, with pre-filter (you dont even need to open the filter itself, almost silent, excellent auto-primer). if you need to buy a new one, definitely check them out. Great review by the way.
H. Alves thanks bro! First time hearing about the Aqueal Ultramax, would def want to give that a try. I am always looking out to try new things. Thank you!
Type2diabetic Free ahahaha, I heard good things about Sunsun. But I’m lazy with maintenance so I just ponied up the dollars! Tbh these filters last forever, if you break down the cost, it’s like $0.10 a day! 😂😂😂
that was a great review. The oase 600 is a great filter but I still don't understand why they made such a big filter at 1000 litres per hr ;/. Here in Australia eheim are overpricing themselves in the market.
God damn! This is the content I love! Personally if I was in the market I'd get a Fluval the same, but I took a chance on a Sicce Whale 350 which is 330 gph for $130! Too cheap to pass on! Can't wait for 90P scape
neverLamp appreciate it man! That’s definitely a great deal. I never used Sicce before but I they got quality product. Like the Seachem Tidal I use is basically a Sicce and it’s great.
This was a very useful review of the three different canister brands. Thank you! I am planning on getting a new aquarium of around 177-222 Litres (39-48 Imp Gallons / 47-58 US) and for which I will probably go with the Oase Biomaster 250. Your review has sold me on Oase. In one year's time, I am planning on a much bigger aquarium of around 620 Litres (137 Imp Gallons / 164 US) for which I will probably go with the Fluval FX4. I am currently running an Eheim canister on my 110 Litre (24 Imp Gallon / 29 US) tank which is one of the very first Professional series from almost 20 years ago and it is still going strong. I have only needed to replace the rubber seals on the baskets and change out the filter media once. For smaller aquariums, the Eheim Ecco Pro canisters seem to get very good reviews and might be designed better than the Classic versions. They are also extremely cheap here in the UK.
Thank you! Glad it helped. I’m usually in the standard aquarium sizes just so I don’t have to worry about filters. Lazy me I guess? Oh, did you know Oase has a Biomaster 850? Might be big enough to handle the job of your future tank. But at that size you probably need a ton of flow, so I kind of agree with the FX route.
I have owned all the Eheim Canister Filter , sold all the Pro2 and Pro 3 , lend out all the Pro 4 but still kept all the Classic series , multiple of each model . How I use the classics is to use them in pairs connected in series , 1 will only have sponge and filter wool while the 2nd will only have the medias . The 1st will act as a pre-filter and will be cleaned every 2 months or so depending on the tank bioload while the 2nd is undisturbed for months to years . Classics is still the best , low wattage , long lasting and changeable flowrate by swapping the impeller from different model of the same series . Even 2nd hand ones are highly desirable for me as it is cheaper and it still is a work horse , filtering 24/7 , 7 days a week .
I am using an Eheim pro 3 series for 250 liters, (my old filter, still in very good condition after years) and Fluval 307 for 275 liters (i bought it 4 months ago), and Eheim Ecco pro for 110 liters (nearly 3 years old). I may say easily, Eheim is a better filter. Fluval is more practical, unfortunately, it has no good biological capacity. Eheim is my favorite. I did not use Oase, it is not a common brand in my counrty.
I have a fluval 207 and I don't get tons of water coming flying out once you shut it just shut the aquatop and wait then put up and u won't get wet try it
Greatly overlooking JBL Crystal profi series. If you check energy consumption, actual filter volume, REAL flow rates (with filter media) and compare with OASE or EHEIM , you can see JBL destroys these brands. Its somewhat equivalent with FLUVAL. Eventually OASE has great user friendly design benefits which I cannot argue against, but I beliebe JBL should have been in this comparison...
Thank u so much for posting! My 15yo canister filter just gave up so I’m in the market for a new one. You had me convinced at Fluval but then, right at the end of your updated Oase video u said that’s the best one you have owned! 🙀 now I’m indecisive! Really , which one do u like the most!? Pls help me! 😹
😂😂😂 well if you like less headache during maintenance, go with Oase. If you want bigger flow and cheaper, go with Fluval. Hope that helps! I still own both btw.
I never suck the tube for my Eheim. After cleaning, I fill it with dechlorinated water. Put the lid on and carry it back to its place, hook up the valves (and then open the valves) and plug it in to turn on.
@@TankTastic I have never cleaned the hoses. You are suppose to clean the hoses? I am a newbie here, I apologize. I started up a couple aquariums in November, so I am new.
Hello, thanks for the video. Can I made you a question, what filter is more quiet, low noise? Fluvial 307, eheim pro or oase? All features like pre filter are important, but for me the noise is one of the most annoying thing. I have one eheim pro 4 600. Is more or less quiet, but I"m to buy another filter. Please give me you opinion about noise. Thanks
Nelson Marto i would go with Oase or Fluval, they are both very quiet. But tbh they are all quiet, if your canister filter makes noise, then there is something wrong. I hope that helps.
Angel Mata Thank you! 90P usually is, but this brand that I got (My Natura?) is 38 gallons. The height and width is 2” shorter than a traditional 90P. I thought the same when I first saw it. Lol
No one comes close to Eheim Professional. I have an Eheim 2080 that hasn't been cleaned in 3 years and still flows like it was new. Also have an Eheim 2075 that hasn't been cleaned in 2 years, still flows like new😃
I have had 2 heaters crack inside the filter so I removed it completely its noisy the prime button dose leak also if u have this under you're aquarium in a tight space its slightly awkward to release the pipes to clean I'm looking at replacing it for the fluval always loved these filters
It's the price vs flow issue for me. I don't want to drop $500 on a biomaster thermo 600 if the flow rate is really low and they still have the air purging issue.
Oase and eheim are both German makes and iirc fluval is from Italy. Also jbl (aquaristik) and tetra are from Germany and they are excellent too, tetra being the least expensive one (in EU at least) and my favorite one ( tetra ex 1000 plus) 😊
grokker99 thank you! Next video will be another light comparing with the Chihiros WRGB2! And both are quiet, I didn’t compare noise level because they are all good choices in terms of noise.
I have Eheim and Fluval. Fluval is working since 10 years and Eheim is working 2 days more than Fluval. Till now none of my 7 Fluval ever had a problem and both of my Eheim have faced similar problems with Overflowing. Don't tell me u dont know how to use or Maintain FILTERS. I would anyday hands vouch for Fluval. The best heater however is Eheim Jager. Nothing comes even close to😮😮 the heater from Eheim. All my 11 tanks have 1 or 2 Ehem Jage. In terms of the
I have an eheim classic 250 and yes there is not a primer but u sertinly don't hay to sick on a dirty hose all u do is if the filters empty u close all the taps n then open the two intake taps n as soon as u open the two output taps you'll hear it filling n it'll push all the air out the classics are old n very simple but that's what makes them good there's no primer they break n can leak over time as for no media baskets u get a basket for it or dividers and once uv to clean it it's simply all u do is pull the media out but make sure it's n a media bag IV ran mine well over 4 years never had an issue we it it's silent and once after I cleaned it I forgot to lock down the motor head I turned it on and it ran there was no water coming out at all the classic is a great filter n IV heard of them running 20/40years non stop the o rings never go bad and you'll only have to replace the propeller or the propeller shaft each 6/8years fan ever they wear out I own the other up to date canisters to n I can tell u now they only last 5years n get noisy n leak the classic is probely the best you'll get n IV had fx4s 206s 207s eheim pro 3 n jbls n as good as they are the classic will outlast them so many times longer
@@TankTastic Yeh defo try it it works a treat I clean my eheim 2213 out n I do that we the taps but keep the tap slipt on the output fan u open the out put taps ull hear it filling n the water I'll flow out the output tap have the water go into a bucket n then plug power in run a we bit n let sum water go n bucket untill u here the air leave n turn tap off n hook the two output taps together n turn on and it'll go bk into tank n empty the water n bucket into tank it always works IV done it -12times a year for four plus years n its so easy
@TANKTASTIC Can you say which filter doesnt bypass at the top from the sides? Many canisters will have gaps on the sides so the dirty watr somehow gets to the top without getting filtered, Which one of them do you think is no bypass filter?
what can you said about how noisily they are? I have one Oase filtosmarth 200 and I think rhe noise it does its over the normal...could you give me your opinion?
If money isn't a cost which one would you pick between fluval and oase. also eheim came out with their 5e series. any thoughts on those? I need to replace my 2217 and was debating on which one to go outta the eheim pro series (most likely 4+ or 5e that just came out), oase biomaster 350, fluval or maybe UNS delta 120.
omgshad0w see that’s a tough one. If money is no object, I would actually look into this filter: Aquael Filtro Exterior Ultramax. Someone mentioned this to me, I think it’s someone in these comments. I’ve been obsessing over this filter and will pull the trigger on my next tank. Outside of that, from the four I mentioned in the video, Oase hands down (if money is no object).
I saw the new eheim Pro 5e and 5t there really really dear and the trays are the same as the pro 4 the trays are really terrible really thin and brital and they have a pipe bit at water go's down at the corner there's one on each tray at connect together but they bend outta shape n it's a nightmare to get trays in to sit level if they are not n perfact u get bypass eheim get there filters made on the cheap in China as for the t model there the best heater models ull get n any filter as its a kettal element at can't go bad or crack but the e model is the one you can plug into a pc but you can early even change anything on it seems a waist a money 400/500pound on a filter at people hay a lot of hassle with the eheim classic 600 or the eheim ecco Pro 300 are better than the pro 4&5 for what ur paying for buy if ur in the market for a big decent filter the jbl crista profi 1900e is a great filter or the eheim classic 2260 for flow and media space as well as relieable
Do you flip the Grey lever all the way up before removing the quick connect on the fluval. It shuts all the valves closed. Mine drips a couple of times but that is it.
Lol I think iv watched ur video a few times now as iv been tryn to deside what canister filter to go for I think iv narrowed it down to between a jbl cristal profi or an eheim Pro 4 the pro 4s trays are met to be really thin n brital cheaply made but I love my eheim they just last forever meaning the motor and orings but the jbls a decent filter to simple but good trays and they have decent flow for there price, I have a fluval 207 I love the 07s but wanna try something else now
I feel like eheim is a lasting product but sign of the times man. If you like it and it aint broke, don’t change. But if you were I heard great things about the Ultramaxxx if you can get one (depending where you located). Thats def one i want to try too.
So much misinformation about the Eheim classic. 1. Once the filter is primed and running, and double taps are in place, no need ever EVER to suck on the hoses to fill it. Thats the WHOLE point for the double taps. 2. You can use a $1 media bag to hold your bio media, this way you can have a 1 second method to pull out the bio media to clean. You can even keep the media in the bag as you rinse and clean. 3. Its "OLD" which means its proven. My Eheim classic 2217 (classic 600) got handed to my friend after 14 years of running and he's still using it, that was 3 years ago. My Eheim classic 2260 is 20 years old and running. So OLD basically a guarantee that it was rock solid, so no need to change. 4. Turnover is the least of your worries in your planted tank. The Bio media capacity is far more important. Also most filters rate their flow without media. Eheim rates with media
Here’s the rebuttal, and I do think Eheims a good filter, just not a Oase. 1. I assume you do not use clear hosing or clean your hose or the in/output? After you clean your hose, you never need to prime? 2. Using an additional bag would be considered modifying it, I’m talking about how it works right out the box. It’s nice to have baskets. Worth the extra money 3. I agree the classic Eheims last forever. But once you go Fluval or Oase, you can’t go back, it’s 2020, we all deserve some upgrades. 4. I agree eheim loads with media than tests vs the other companies. I disagree turnover rate does not matter, when you have a heavily densely planted tank with high demanding species and pumping co2 like I do, you need some flow. Eheim knows where they need to improve. That is why the new “classics” includes one basket. The old 22- series had nothing. Slowly but surely. Open for discussion
@@TankTastic 1. I dont clean the hoses/outlets and cant think of any reason to do so to be honest. Now mind you mine are not clear. They are the green hoses so the taps are always shut off, filter cleaned and then connected and opened which avoid the whole need to re-prime. 2. I guess it could be considered modifying it but I know not a single person who's taken a filter and not swapped out media brands..etc so basically we're technically all modifying our filters so a $1 bag does make it easier :) 3. For me reliability and longevity are far more important factors than a basket to be honest. If it takes me 5 min longer to clean a filter, but its bulletproof, its the way to go. No brainer. 4. What I meant about the flow rate not mattering is that Eheim tests with their filter loaded and others without so actual loaded flow rate for many other brands may be 25% or more lower than claimed. More important would be to have good capacity :) Anyway good discussion but not a chance in hell any Eheim user (especially classic) will switch. Again my 2217 is probably about 17 years in the running (now at my friends place) and my 2260 is 20 years old. There are users with Eheim classics exceeding 30 years with no issues :) That is an absolute winner in my books. Ok well speaking of which, time to feed the fish. Have a great day my friend.
@@svtcontour I totally get it man. Not sure if you seen my other videos, I usually run those glass pipes with clear hosing so basically I clean that every two weeks (which is annoying). The green ones I use to clean like once a month because of the gunk. I agree a media bag makes it easier, but compared to something that’s already a basket, I personally vote for basket. The flow rate thing, again you are right about the actual flow rate but for me when I use lets say the 2217 the flow seemed low. Yes they do test with media, but lets say you swap out that carbon pad they used in the test and stuff it with more media. The Eheim reading will go down too. I do wish everyone has a standard way of testing gph (I added a disclaimer about the eheim, which should of been mentioned). Also I am curious, of what the actual rate is for all of my canisters (maybe I’ll do a test or something). Lastly, agreed on the longevity. I passed on my over a decade old 2217 and the new owner said it’s working like a charm. Tbh, I get lazy and the new bells and whistles floats my boat. Lol Good talk though, I always enjoy open conversations about things like this. Also, I’m not going to be right or provide all of the info in my videos all the time. So when someone points something out, I respect it and would like others to learn/add to the exchange. 👍👍👍
@@TankTastic Thanks my friend. Ya so I had just come across this video and watched but I'll be checking out the others now that I know that you're running the clear pipes so I guess ya the cleaning definitely has to be done on something like that :) I've been thinking of measuring the output of my filter by diverting its outlet into a 5 gallon bucket and seeing how quickly it fills that and then work it as a GPH fully loaded and say run for 1 month. I think thats a real world test. That way it has to flow through media and a bit of gunk ;) BTW I run a 308 gallon plywood aquarium that was a DIY with a 2260 and a 2262 at the moment. I'm really happy with it but I'm planning on building a larger one next year sometime. Something in the 550-700 range. Thats as big a I can possibly go in my current house.
Yea the real world test is def a month long test and seeing how the gph slowly decreases over time. Yea, I saw some of your tanks, they are very cool man. My tanks is from nano to my largest which is a 48 gallons rn. I usually like high-tech tanks, high light, co2 and all that stuff. Of course I’m also interested in low tech but I need to learn more on that as I go. Slowly but surely.
Yeah dude Oase are European. German in fact. And it's actually pronounced 'OH-AZ-ER' I believe..... if you wanna sound all sophisticated and proper ;o) Good video
hi bro, is it fine to use bigger capacity canister filter for my planted tank? e.g. oase 850 for my 2 feet tank (ada 60p). Thank you in advanve bro. 🙏😁
@@TankTastic really appreciate for your response my bro, ohh abit too extreme hehe. Is it okay if i use the double connect quick disconnect valves to slow the flow? 😊
I don’t understand why he needs to fill with so much media if u buy a decent media in the first place also most of your substrate or sand will be full of beneficial bacteria seems over kill for what he is doing
I thought about getting one, but at the same price point the Oase is a better buy (for me at least). Also, in the future I am looking to try the Aquael Ultramax.
Ehiem gph is full of media fluvial rates theirs empty just water Ehiem g series have pre filter at top too blue filter Have two g series after 5 years the tops broke where quick release is I won't get again
Everything you take with a grain of salt, the way I pack the media, I am sure the GPH drops a bit. The Gs so far lasted for me for over a decade. Things are getting a bit squeaky, but it still works. I can see how the quick release tab can break though, it has tons of resistance. Yikes
Eheim don't rate there flow with media iv heard this befor n that's just wrong if that were the case tell me why does my eheim 2213(250) canister only give me 270 lph after going throw media when it's flow rates 440 if u look harden ought ull see that eheim rate it at 440lph pump rate and 390 circulation rate without media there all the same my fluval 207 says in book 780lph pump and 560 circulation that must be without media but its still way off that I only get 360lph throw my media very disappointing u can't trust any of these company's there liers fact is if u have a 100ltr tank ud be best with a 300/400 ltr filter I steed of 100/200like we normally go for they lie about what a filter can handle up to fully cycled and the flow rates I think it's shamefull
Scusami. Visto che sto pensando di comprarlo, puoi dirmi se è silenzioso? Inoltre, hai sostituito le spugne blu interne con ‘filtro bianco tipo cotone’? (Non ricordo il nome estro perdonami). Il prefiltro ha spugne ‘buone’? Grazie mille
Update videos on these filters:
Flow rate test for these filters: ruclips.net/video/7wTTmCSrbvY/видео.html
8 months with the Fluval 307 ruclips.net/video/TYun32nmn94/видео.html
5 months with the Oase Biomaster 350 ruclips.net/video/AoEHDl_1D3k/видео.html
10 years with the Eheim Professional 3 ruclips.net/video/kmIxigo0hwA/видео.html
sorry to be so offtopic but does any of you know a way to get back into an Instagram account??
I was dumb forgot the login password. I would appreciate any tricks you can give me
@David Kenzo instablaster ;)
@Zavier Garrett thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm trying it out now.
Seems to take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Zavier Garrett It did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D
Thank you so much, you saved my account!
@David Kenzo no problem =)
Sincerity is what is needed in this hobby, and this video has it. Congratulations!
Eheim classic 250 still working after 10 years 👌.
Me too, the 2217 I had for more than a decade.
I've been using an Oase Biomaster Thermo 350 for a year now this is the model with built in heater. It's so easy to clean the pre filter weekly and I only do the main cannister about every 4 months or so. Can't see any bad points with it, have had no problems with it . Love the fact that I don't have to hide a heater in the tank as well.
Oh absolutely, its good all around. Just the flow rate’s a issue for me. But that just means I gotta trim more and keep things open or get a powerhead. Otherwise love it
@@TankTastic I've never had a problem with flow but then I have drilled a lot more holes in the tube inside the prefilter.
I did that too, tested and didint give much improvement. Although pond guru did use a bigger pipe. Yea I mean as long as the tank isnt overgrown, its good to go. Still love it
I've owned all three canister filters.
Eheim classic is the quitest but a pain to clean and prime.
Fluval was a good canister but I had impeller problems with it
I currently own the oase biomaster 600 and after doing a few modifications on it can say its brilliant. Takes 10 mins to clean the pre filter and I clean the media trays every 6 months!! Water is always perfect 😁
Agreed! But I do have to clean the impellers on my Biomaster as well on a consistent basis.
Eheim used to be the best but recent models have taken a real dip in quality. I have always had Eheim filters but now I've just bought a Fluval and am very happy.
My only issue in fluval vs eheim is media capacity. I have three eheim pro 5e 700s (returning today, they're garbage) as well as an FX4 and fluval 406. The one eheim holds more media than the FX4 and 406 combined, it's insane. If only they would just stay running instead of randomly shutting off.
If I could afford the Oase I would absolutely upgrade. Just like you said, the ease of cleaning is there but just have to upgrade all the media for it to be optimal, $$$. Awesome video.
for the Eheim put the media in media bags then it is easy to take the media out to get to the mechanical media and it holds just as much when you put it in a bag or the same
never used the eheim but have used the Oase biomaster 650 and Fluval 407. My favourite is the oase. The Fluval is well made and cheaper with ease of use but the Oase simply has more space for biomedia compared to the 07 range making this the better choice for me.
Agreed, but the 07 still a good choice for those that are budget sensitive
Still love my eheim 2217 long lasting and the flow is great long time before you have to open it up I just like the simplicity
Fluval is the best bang for the buck !!
I agree
Only place I've been able to find a video like this. I'm subbing.
Thank you! I’m working on a mew filter video, stay tuned!
@@TankTastic Thanks man will do. You make excellent videos. Love your tanks btw.
Appreciate that! More tanks to come!
Nice review. I own the classic eheim 2217, the 106 and 206 from fluval and an aquael ultramax 2000 and by far the ultramax is the best. Probably the best underrated filter out there. Similar to oase, way, way cheaper, with pre-filter (you dont even need to open the filter itself, almost silent, excellent auto-primer). if you need to buy a new one, definitely check them out. Great review by the way.
H. Alves thanks bro! First time hearing about the Aqueal Ultramax, would def want to give that a try. I am always looking out to try new things. Thank you!
A cheap-ass Sunsun canister user here... just watching in envy. Great content.
Type2diabetic Free ahahaha, I heard good things about Sunsun. But I’m lazy with maintenance so I just ponied up the dollars! Tbh these filters last forever, if you break down the cost, it’s like $0.10 a day! 😂😂😂
@@TankTastic Have you tried Sunsun yet?
I have not, I def lean towards filters with pre filters
A very helpful and insightful review. Thank you for making this video.
No problem! You are welcome!
that was a great review. The oase 600 is a great filter but I still don't understand why they made such a big filter at 1000 litres per hr ;/. Here in Australia eheim are overpricing themselves in the market.
God damn! This is the content I love! Personally if I was in the market I'd get a Fluval the same, but I took a chance on a Sicce Whale 350 which is 330 gph for $130! Too cheap to pass on! Can't wait for 90P scape
neverLamp appreciate it man! That’s definitely a great deal. I never used Sicce before but I they got quality product. Like the Seachem Tidal I use is basically a Sicce and it’s great.
For the classic, use a net bag for the media. You can pull it out in one shot.
This was a very useful review of the three different canister brands. Thank you!
I am planning on getting a new aquarium of around 177-222 Litres (39-48 Imp Gallons / 47-58 US) and for which I will probably go with the Oase Biomaster 250. Your review has sold me on Oase.
In one year's time, I am planning on a much bigger aquarium of around 620 Litres (137 Imp Gallons / 164 US) for which I will probably go with the Fluval FX4.
I am currently running an Eheim canister on my 110 Litre (24 Imp Gallon / 29 US) tank which is one of the very first Professional series from almost 20 years ago and it is still going strong. I have only needed to replace the rubber seals on the baskets and change out the filter media once.
For smaller aquariums, the Eheim Ecco Pro canisters seem to get very good reviews and might be designed better than the Classic versions. They are also extremely cheap here in the UK.
Thank you! Glad it helped. I’m usually in the standard aquarium sizes just so I don’t have to worry about filters. Lazy me I guess? Oh, did you know Oase has a Biomaster 850? Might be big enough to handle the job of your future tank. But at that size you probably need a ton of flow, so I kind of agree with the FX route.
I wouldn't recommend the fx 4 for that size, I have a 150 gallon and have an FX4 and 406 and you'd need a lot of media.
Maybe go eheim 2262
I have owned all the Eheim Canister Filter , sold all the Pro2 and Pro 3 , lend out all the Pro 4 but still kept all the Classic series , multiple of each model .
How I use the classics is to use them in pairs connected in series , 1 will only have sponge and filter wool while the 2nd will only have the medias .
The 1st will act as a pre-filter and will be cleaned every 2 months or so depending on the tank bioload while the 2nd is undisturbed for months to years .
Classics is still the best , low wattage , long lasting and changeable flowrate by swapping the impeller from different model of the same series .
Even 2nd hand ones are highly desirable for me as it is cheaper and it still is a work horse , filtering 24/7 , 7 days a week .
I am using an Eheim pro 3 series for 250 liters, (my old filter, still in very good condition after years) and Fluval 307 for 275 liters (i bought it 4 months ago), and Eheim Ecco pro for 110 liters (nearly 3 years old). I may say easily, Eheim is a better filter. Fluval is more practical, unfortunately, it has no good biological capacity. Eheim is my favorite. I did not use Oase, it is not a common brand in my counrty.
I really like your opinion...same as i thought.👍
Great minds think alike 😁
I like the Sicce whale 500, It's a bit cheaper, quieter and better made than the fluval 407. Also holds a bit more media.
I have a fluval 207 and I don't get tons of water coming flying out once you shut it just shut the aquatop and wait then put up and u won't get wet try it
The eheim is the most reliable and quite 👍
Greatly overlooking JBL Crystal profi series. If you check energy consumption, actual filter volume, REAL flow rates (with filter media) and compare with OASE or EHEIM , you can see JBL destroys these brands. Its somewhat equivalent with FLUVAL. Eventually OASE has great user friendly design benefits which I cannot argue against, but I beliebe JBL should have been in this comparison...
Well I’m located in the states, it’s like those things that’s not as popular over here. There’s a lot of things we don’t get over here actually lol
He wouid have if he owned one but
Thank u so much for posting! My 15yo canister filter just gave up so I’m in the market for a new one. You had me convinced at Fluval but then, right at the end of your updated Oase video u said that’s the best one you have owned! 🙀 now I’m indecisive!
Really , which one do u like the most!? Pls help me! 😹
😂😂😂 well if you like less headache during maintenance, go with Oase. If you want bigger flow and cheaper, go with Fluval. Hope that helps! I still own both btw.
I never suck the tube for my Eheim. After cleaning, I fill it with dechlorinated water. Put the lid on and carry it back to its place, hook up the valves (and then open the valves) and plug it in to turn on.
What about the hoses? After you clean those you dont need to prime?
@@TankTastic I have never cleaned the hoses. You are suppose to clean the hoses? I am a newbie here, I apologize. I started up a couple aquariums in November, so I am new.
You dont have to, I usually dont. But when you do, you have to prime it the old fashion way. Plus I use clear hose so it looks dirty.
@@TankTastic Okay, I understand now. I subbed you, but my subbing is private. I appreciate you and your videos.
@@MichaelsHomeCooking thank you! Me too, private as well. But your food look soooo goooood!!!!
I am thinking about getting a canister for my new 55G Betta Community Tank. You gave me some things to think about.
Hello, thanks for the video. Can I made you a question, what filter is more quiet, low noise? Fluvial 307, eheim pro or oase? All features like pre filter are important, but for me the noise is one of the most annoying thing. I have one eheim pro 4 600. Is more or less quiet, but I"m to buy another filter. Please give me you opinion about noise. Thanks
Nelson Marto i would go with Oase or Fluval, they are both very quiet. But tbh they are all quiet, if your canister filter makes noise, then there is something wrong. I hope that helps.
90p is 48 gallon. Awesome video
Angel Mata Thank you! 90P usually is, but this brand that I got (My Natura?) is 38 gallons. The height and width is 2” shorter than a traditional 90P. I thought the same when I first saw it. Lol
I like ehim very much, I use a lot of times.
Yi Ping Zhang give the Fluval or Oase a try, it will blow your mind 👍
No one comes close to Eheim Professional. I have an Eheim 2080 that hasn't been cleaned in 3 years and still flows like it was new. Also have an Eheim 2075 that hasn't been cleaned in 2 years, still flows like new😃
Oase hands down dude, pre filter, heater, wnat me to say more?
Jorge Quantino it was definitely a close call, but with price in mind...Fluval for me 😁😁😁
I have had 2 heaters crack inside the filter so I removed it completely its noisy the prime button dose leak also if u have this under you're aquarium in a tight space its slightly awkward to release the pipes to clean
I'm looking at replacing it for the fluval always loved these filters
@@domanicgilbert5812 which oase do you have? On what size tank?
@@iammatth3w I have the 600 thermo on a 240l tank at the time it heated up and killed all the fish it is currently on a 700l tank with a sump
It's the price vs flow issue for me. I don't want to drop $500 on a biomaster thermo 600 if the flow rate is really low and they still have the air purging issue.
Ehein Pro 3,Hate it,primer stopped working after a year, Made my own above tank filter----perfect
I’ve got loads of them just get a power head and put it into the inlet I’ve had a pro 3 12 years and never touched the primer button
great job
Thank you!
Oase and eheim are both German makes and iirc fluval is from Italy. Also jbl (aquaristik) and tetra are from Germany and they are excellent too, tetra being the least expensive one (in EU at least) and my favorite one ( tetra ex 1000 plus) 😊
Agree! FC 407 owner.
Which one is quieter? Fluval or Oase? Great videos btw. Keep em coming:)👍
grokker99 thank you! Next video will be another light comparing with the Chihiros WRGB2! And both are quiet, I didn’t compare noise level because they are all good choices in terms of noise.
Oase 600 is much noisier than jbl 1501 for example.
I have Eheim and Fluval.
Fluval is working since 10 years and Eheim is working 2 days more than Fluval. Till now none of my 7 Fluval ever had a problem and both of my Eheim have faced similar problems with Overflowing.
Don't tell me u dont know how to use or Maintain FILTERS.
I would anyday hands vouch for Fluval.
The best heater however is Eheim Jager. Nothing comes even close to😮😮 the heater from Eheim. All my 11 tanks have 1 or 2 Ehem Jage. In terms of the
Oase has air bubbles problems and can’t use it in a planted tank. Most of the injected co2 gets lost.
I have an eheim classic 250 and yes there is not a primer but u sertinly don't hay to sick on a dirty hose all u do is if the filters empty u close all the taps n then open the two intake taps n as soon as u open the two output taps you'll hear it filling n it'll push all the air out the classics are old n very simple but that's what makes them good there's no primer they break n can leak over time as for no media baskets u get a basket for it or dividers and once uv to clean it it's simply all u do is pull the media out but make sure it's n a media bag IV ran mine well over 4 years never had an issue we it it's silent and once after I cleaned it I forgot to lock down the motor head I turned it on and it ran there was no water coming out at all the classic is a great filter n IV heard of them running 20/40years non stop the o rings never go bad and you'll only have to replace the propeller or the propeller shaft each 6/8years fan ever they wear out I own the other up to date canisters to n I can tell u now they only last 5years n get noisy n leak the classic is probely the best you'll get n IV had fx4s 206s 207s eheim pro 3 n jbls n as good as they are the classic will outlast them so many times longer
I gotta give that priming method a try. Ans I agree, Eheims will last a lifetime. I’ve had mine for well over a decade.
@@TankTastic Yeh defo try it it works a treat I clean my eheim 2213 out n I do that we the taps but keep the tap slipt on the output fan u open the out put taps ull hear it filling n the water I'll flow out the output tap have the water go into a bucket n then plug power in run a we bit n let sum water go n bucket untill u here the air leave n turn tap off n hook the two output taps together n turn on and it'll go bk into tank n empty the water n bucket into tank it always works IV done it -12times a year for four plus years n its so easy
another great episode, but dude you have to try a sump. Sumps - canisters - HOB...
Tristen Cruz Thank you! Yes, I absolutely want to get my feet wet with sumps!
What are the noise levels like on these in comparison?
Between the two, eheim 2213 and 2234 which one would you use in a 90L tank?
Hi how is oase filtosmart ?? No one talks about that.. is it good like biomaster??? As biomaster is costly
For me the filtosmart doesn’t make sense. Especially at that price point. Better off getting a HOB filter, but that’s just my opinion.
@TANKTASTIC Can you say which filter doesnt bypass at the top from the sides? Many canisters will have gaps on the sides so the dirty watr somehow gets to the top without getting filtered, Which one of them do you think is no bypass filter?
Just my opinion, the Eheim Classis design will come out on top for that. The water is fed from the bottom of the filter directly.
what can you said about how noisily they are? I have one Oase filtosmarth 200 and I think rhe noise it does its over the normal...could you give me your opinion?
Quiet, especially under a cabinet. Sometimes noisey but thats usually due to air bubbles or needs cleaning. In my experience.
💯 Percent agree with you. 'However' I just hate that horrible Fluval plastic hose and the AquaStop Valve. Excellent video as always.✌️
Franco yea I am not a fan of those Fluval accessories. For me I always switch to clear tubes and glass sets, so luckily not an issue for me.
U hate the aqua stop valve wow I think that's great but each to there own
If money isn't a cost which one would you pick between fluval and oase. also eheim came out with their 5e series. any thoughts on those? I need to replace my 2217 and was debating on which one to go outta the eheim pro series (most likely 4+ or 5e that just came out), oase biomaster 350, fluval or maybe UNS delta 120.
omgshad0w see that’s a tough one. If money is no object, I would actually look into this filter: Aquael Filtro Exterior Ultramax. Someone mentioned this to me, I think it’s someone in these comments. I’ve been obsessing over this filter and will pull the trigger on my next tank. Outside of that, from the four I mentioned in the video, Oase hands down (if money is no object).
I saw the new eheim Pro 5e and 5t there really really dear and the trays are the same as the pro 4 the trays are really terrible really thin and brital and they have a pipe bit at water go's down at the corner there's one on each tray at connect together but they bend outta shape n it's a nightmare to get trays in to sit level if they are not n perfact u get bypass eheim get there filters made on the cheap in China as for the t model there the best heater models ull get n any filter as its a kettal element at can't go bad or crack but the e model is the one you can plug into a pc but you can early even change anything on it seems a waist a money 400/500pound on a filter at people hay a lot of hassle with the eheim classic 600 or the eheim ecco Pro 300 are better than the pro 4&5 for what ur paying for buy if ur in the market for a big decent filter the jbl crista profi 1900e is a great filter or the eheim classic 2260 for flow and media space as well as relieable
where do i find the fluval 407 for 200 bucks? im getting more like 350 dollar price range
Amazon USA site: amzn.to/3qfxmwI
Do you flip the Grey lever all the way up before removing the quick connect on the fluval. It shuts all the valves closed. Mine drips a couple of times but that is it.
Yea all the way, then disconnect. And yes, it does leak a good amount of water for me too.
Just close the valves fully up, keep filter running for few seconds, then disconnect filter from current and remove the connector valves. No drops.
Was ist das für ein Test?
Moderne Filter gegen einen alten Eheim Classic?
Lol I think iv watched ur video a few times now as iv been tryn to deside what canister filter to go for I think iv narrowed it down to between a jbl cristal profi or an eheim Pro 4 the pro 4s trays are met to be really thin n brital cheaply made but I love my eheim they just last forever meaning the motor and orings but the jbls a decent filter to simple but good trays and they have decent flow for there price, I have a fluval 207 I love the 07s but wanna try something else now
I feel like eheim is a lasting product but sign of the times man. If you like it and it aint broke, don’t change. But if you were I heard great things about the Ultramaxxx if you can get one (depending where you located). Thats def one i want to try too.
But dont get me wrong they all would do the job.
So much misinformation about the Eheim classic.
1. Once the filter is primed and running, and double taps are in place, no need ever EVER to suck on the hoses to fill it. Thats the WHOLE point for the double taps.
2. You can use a $1 media bag to hold your bio media, this way you can have a 1 second method to pull out the bio media to clean. You can even keep the media in the bag as you rinse and clean.
3. Its "OLD" which means its proven. My Eheim classic 2217 (classic 600) got handed to my friend after 14 years of running and he's still using it, that was 3 years ago. My Eheim classic 2260 is 20 years old and running. So OLD basically a guarantee that it was rock solid, so no need to change.
4. Turnover is the least of your worries in your planted tank. The Bio media capacity is far more important. Also most filters rate their flow without media. Eheim rates with media
Here’s the rebuttal, and I do think Eheims a good filter, just not a Oase.
1. I assume you do not use clear hosing or clean your hose or the in/output? After you clean your hose, you never need to prime?
2. Using an additional bag would be considered modifying it, I’m talking about how it works right out the box. It’s nice to have baskets. Worth the extra money
3. I agree the classic Eheims last forever. But once you go Fluval or Oase, you can’t go back, it’s 2020, we all deserve some upgrades.
4. I agree eheim loads with media than tests vs the other companies. I disagree turnover rate does not matter, when you have a heavily densely planted tank with high demanding species and pumping co2 like I do, you need some flow.
Eheim knows where they need to improve. That is why the new “classics” includes one basket. The old 22- series had nothing. Slowly but surely.
Open for discussion
@@TankTastic 1. I dont clean the hoses/outlets and cant think of any reason to do so to be honest. Now mind you mine are not clear. They are the green hoses so the taps are always shut off, filter cleaned and then connected and opened which avoid the whole need to re-prime.
2. I guess it could be considered modifying it but I know not a single person who's taken a filter and not swapped out media brands..etc so basically we're technically all modifying our filters so a $1 bag does make it easier :)
3. For me reliability and longevity are far more important factors than a basket to be honest. If it takes me 5 min longer to clean a filter, but its bulletproof, its the way to go. No brainer.
4. What I meant about the flow rate not mattering is that Eheim tests with their filter loaded and others without so actual loaded flow rate for many other brands may be 25% or more lower than claimed. More important would be to have good capacity :)
Anyway good discussion but not a chance in hell any Eheim user (especially classic) will switch. Again my 2217 is probably about 17 years in the running (now at my friends place) and my 2260 is 20 years old. There are users with Eheim classics exceeding 30 years with no issues :) That is an absolute winner in my books.
Ok well speaking of which, time to feed the fish. Have a great day my friend.
@@svtcontour I totally get it man. Not sure if you seen my other videos, I usually run those glass pipes with clear hosing so basically I clean that every two weeks (which is annoying). The green ones I use to clean like once a month because of the gunk. I agree a media bag makes it easier, but compared to something that’s already a basket, I personally vote for basket. The flow rate thing, again you are right about the actual flow rate but for me when I use lets say the 2217 the flow seemed low. Yes they do test with media, but lets say you swap out that carbon pad they used in the test and stuff it with more media. The Eheim reading will go down too. I do wish everyone has a standard way of testing gph (I added a disclaimer about the eheim, which should of been mentioned). Also I am curious, of what the actual rate is for all of my canisters (maybe I’ll do a test or something). Lastly, agreed on the longevity. I passed on my over a decade old 2217 and the new owner said it’s working like a charm. Tbh, I get lazy and the new bells and whistles floats my boat. Lol
Good talk though, I always enjoy open conversations about things like this. Also, I’m not going to be right or provide all of the info in my videos all the time. So when someone points something out, I respect it and would like others to learn/add to the exchange.
👍👍👍
@@TankTastic Thanks my friend. Ya so I had just come across this video and watched but I'll be checking out the others now that I know that you're running the clear pipes so I guess ya the cleaning definitely has to be done on something like that :)
I've been thinking of measuring the output of my filter by diverting its outlet into a 5 gallon bucket and seeing how quickly it fills that and then work it as a GPH fully loaded and say run for 1 month. I think thats a real world test. That way it has to flow through media and a bit of gunk ;)
BTW I run a 308 gallon plywood aquarium that was a DIY with a 2260 and a 2262 at the moment. I'm really happy with it but I'm planning on building a larger one next year sometime. Something in the 550-700 range. Thats as big a I can possibly go in my current house.
Yea the real world test is def a month long test and seeing how the gph slowly decreases over time. Yea, I saw some of your tanks, they are very cool man. My tanks is from nano to my largest which is a 48 gallons rn. I usually like high-tech tanks, high light, co2 and all that stuff. Of course I’m also interested in low tech but I need to learn more on that as I go. Slowly but surely.
This is my first time here.
07 FluvalS shut valve before turning off power.. no puddles
Yup, few others schooled me too. 😂😂😂
Yeah dude Oase are European. German in fact. And it's actually pronounced 'OH-AZ-ER' I believe..... if you wanna sound all sophisticated and proper ;o) Good video
I do like sound sophistimacated, thanks for that!
hi bro, is it fine to use bigger capacity canister filter for my planted tank? e.g. oase 850 for my 2 feet tank (ada 60p). Thank you in advanve bro. 🙏😁
Haha yea sure, but the fishes might not be a fan. You can always lower the flow if anything but that size for a 60p is a bit extreme lolll
@@TankTastic really appreciate for your response my bro, ohh abit too extreme hehe. Is it okay if i use the double connect quick disconnect valves to slow the flow? 😊
Yea I done that before.
@@TankTastic thanks alot bro! Need this help. 😊🤜🤛 keep upload more vids alright 💯👍
Np! I’ll def try. Works been brutal lately lol
I don’t understand why he needs to fill with so much media if u buy a decent media in the first place also most of your substrate or sand will be full of beneficial bacteria seems over kill for what he is doing
Oase is way more expensive than fx series with half the rated gallons
You should inclued the hydor
I thought about getting one, but at the same price point the Oase is a better buy (for me at least). Also, in the future I am looking to try the Aquael Ultramax.
@@TankTastic oase is much more expensive. I just got a fluval 407, they was a promotion, I got it for 120€, I think for this price it is unbeatable
Yea the 07 Fluvals is a good buy in my books.
@@TankTastic wich books
Figure of speech 😁
What about Sunsun 😂
Eheim no1
Americans love fluval
A. 76 it’s readily available everywhere. 😁
They make fluval n USA and Italy and its a top brand over there u don't get much eheims n USA I don't think
Ehiem gph is full of media fluvial rates theirs empty just water
Ehiem g series have pre filter at top too blue filter
Have two g series after 5 years the tops broke where quick release is I won't get again
Everything you take with a grain of salt, the way I pack the media, I am sure the GPH drops a bit. The Gs so far lasted for me for over a decade. Things are getting a bit squeaky, but it still works. I can see how the quick release tab can break though, it has tons of resistance. Yikes
Eheim don't rate there flow with media iv heard this befor n that's just wrong if that were the case tell me why does my eheim 2213(250) canister only give me 270 lph after going throw media when it's flow rates 440 if u look harden ought ull see that eheim rate it at 440lph pump rate and 390 circulation rate without media there all the same my fluval 207 says in book 780lph pump and 560 circulation that must be without media but its still way off that I only get 360lph throw my media very disappointing u can't trust any of these company's there liers fact is if u have a 100ltr tank ud be best with a 300/400 ltr filter I steed of 100/200like we normally go for they lie about what a filter can handle up to fully cycled and the flow rates I think it's shamefull
EHEIM.2217 CLASSICO.SIMPLE AS THAT
JBL
Think thats another one that we dont have in the states.
The Eheim 250 died within the 1st month. It's just a rattling piece of garbage. Total waste of money.
Might be defective, check the pump, oring and propeller
Oase biomaster tutta la vita
Scusami. Visto che sto pensando di comprarlo, puoi dirmi se è silenzioso? Inoltre, hai sostituito le spugne blu interne con ‘filtro bianco tipo cotone’? (Non ricordo il nome estro perdonami). Il prefiltro ha spugne ‘buone’?
Grazie mille
i have the classic and all my media is in bags so simple