Acura TL Dies On the Road
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- Опубликовано: 13 янв 2022
- In this video I walk you through the diagnosis and repair of a 2008 Acura TL that died while driving on the highway. It has a J32 Honda V6.
Be sure to watch the entire video to see how things turn out.
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The best part about working on old cheap cars is that you can try out fun stuff like this. Awesome
It is the way I learned to fix cars. I had the what do I have to lose mentality.
I enjoyed listening to Eric's excitement and pleasure when the Acura TL ran; made it worth the time to watch the entire video !😄
Thanks Mr. Eric you have a way of explaining your work in a learning manner. You are providing content and teaching to help all of us.
I remember commenting on the earlier video that all those counterfeit parts should have been replaced just to be safe. Glad it ended up mostly working out for the TL.
You Eric, are amazing! I watch your channel many years now and you never fail to amaze me! I fricking love this channel!!!
Thank you!
Eric please report the eBay seller you bought the timing kit from, obviously all the parts were fake. The price itself is the biggest red flag 🚩 Help out the next guy by letting eBay know.
I love how informative your videos are without freaking people out 😂
That’s a miracle! That’s for sure. As I always say, with critical components that can result in potential mechanical failure, always get the best components you can afford. Keep up the great work and thank you for the video Eric.
Love the analysis and details. So glad you got it running.
LOVE the MacGyver work, it's your car so you should be able to do what you want with it.
Shoulda known about the parts when the OEM cam and crank seal part numbers were the same
I had experience in my youth where a mechanic diagnosed my mom's car as bent valves from a broken timing belt. But it was on a non interference engine..... He ended up with the car for free and he secretly threw a timing belt on it and drove it..... He was one of those not honest mechanics. Glad it's fixed
Great job. You should be very proud and happy with yourself, sticking to it, nothing to loose, great job. I’ve been waiting to see what happened to this car ever since it was towed. Thank you have a great weekend. As a side note, it’s a good takeaway lesson about counterfeit parts.
Thanks for the info Eric , I have a J30a1 in my 2000 Accord . so glad that your engine is still working . gives me hope if anything happens to mine
it might still work also . Keep the videos coming it really makes my day . be safe and ""stay dirty "" .
the timing belt gods were shining on you again Eric
I floored the odyssey and jumped timing and bent a valve.. had to rebuild that engine.. and you cranked the shit out of this TL without any timing belt and you didn’t bent anything.. you sir are LUCKY!!
Sometimes you get lucky. Thanks for the comment.
Great job Eric, like to see you never give up!
I'm not surprised the JB weld failed, it is not all that strong. Thumbs up to you, for sticking with it and getting it running again, despite the setbacks.
The TL lives on! I see so many of these mistreated. And while you've done a little hackery to keep it running for now, you definitely keep it in great shape. Love to see it.
As he said, it is his car and if it works... it is a $200 car lol
most people ignore than these Acura's are far better quality and more reliable than German money pits.
Love 'em and they'll take you home everyday.
I am at 165kMi and keeping it up!
Happy to hear you found a new shop near by.
Heck of a nice job Eric. Like you said, a lot of folks would have just thrown in the towel with the timing belt breakage. Masterful decision buddy, she sounds like new! Big Al.
Samething happened to my accord timing belt broke after replacement less than a couple months, luckily there was no damage, from my research and experience the 3 liter v6 is a non interference engine, was so happy when she purred back up. Great video
Excellent 👍🏼👍🏼
Love it when an unorthodox fix works 🙂
I lost it at the self tapping screws 🤣 well done, Eric. Your ingenuity knows no bounds.
This is a Duck Tape free zone.....
@@nk863 who would use duct tape on their car for anything other than a bumper? 🤣
Too funny, something def got damaged with regards to the sensor alignment.
Might want to use locktite on those self tapping screws!
Duct tape? You guys are fancy. Ghetto zip ties here.
ERIC PREVAILS AGAIN! YES!!
Outstanding! Never a doubt…
My stepfather still has his '91 Integra like yours. What a machine of the day that was!
My son in laws pilot did the same thing. Probably 275,000 miles. Same thing. Did a timing kit and it started right up and ran fine.
As well balanced as J series seem to be you’d hear and feel low compression right away.
Damn Honda!! Impressive!
Wow, I am surprised that the engine still runs! Nice job Eric!
When I was doing research into changing the timing belt on my 02 WRX, I read a handful of horror stories of failing belts within 10,000 miles and the consensus was the cheap knock off kits were very failure prone. I have to admit I was a bit skeptical about this. I went with the OEM kit as I wasn't trying to save money on the job (well aside from doing it all myself) but I still suspected that those early failures were more likely user error than parts failure. Watching this video and reading the other comments, I'll only ever choose OEM parts for a job like this for sure. Crazy how catastrophically that failed so soon.
Yeah I'd never put cheap aftermarket parts, especially timing components, on my engine. Not worth the risk, just buy OEM
The key takeaways are to avoid CHEAP aftermarket parts. Quality aftermarket parts from reputable brands are still worth using especially with how outrageous dealership markups can be on some OEM items.
Can’t go wrong with gates timing belt kits
@Desantos King Maonesium is better! Let 100 parts bloom!
Yes, this happened to me on the same car. Learned a lesson, buy your timing belt parts at an Acura dealer.
Great video! Brilliant trick with the screws holding up the crank sensor.
I just love watching Eric's videos, specially story telling long ones) Thanks!
Glad you sorted it, I had a similar experience with my FIAT Ulysses here in the UK. Coming up the motorway it stopped but I had the presence of mind to dip the clutch (manual gearbox) and coast to the hard shoulder. To cut a long story short, I stripped the belt area to find about a quarter of the timing belt had stripped its thread? After replacing just about everything I could think of and checking the timing lots I could never found out what caused it and never got it to start. Having had it for 14 years, I keep my cars forever, I sold it as a none runner. I miss that MPV it was so practical.
Your a Genius and a little bit of Shade tree mechanic thrown in for the mix. been a Fan for a long time.
That feeling when your work pays off!😎
Hey Eric. I’m glad it worked out. You’ll be fine with that Gates kit, ironically I noticed that the belt you initially replaced was a Gates belt.
Seen an older TL once that the pulleys seized up and the timing belt melted to the pulleys. New kit and the car ran fine.
I love your TL videos!
Kick Arse! Congrats and super glad it's running again!
Really glad this one worked out for you.
I'm thinking the original cause of the failure was that boss for the crank sensor bolt. If that sheared and the crank sensor bracket moved, that could have shredded the belt - the build up of fibre in that area does give more credence to this also (slowly shredding on the bracket in that area, before ultimate failure)
So rewarding when you improvise and win the battle!
Nice job Eric. Truthfully, Hondas are not my thing, but I appreciate the knowledge and experience you’re sharing.
Excellent video. Thanks Eric. You make timing belt issues seem almost manageable - something I've always been afraid to tackle. Maybe next time I'll dive in.
My issue would be where the heck do you begin trying to even get to stuff to replace a timing belt with these stupid sideways mounted engines...would almost be easier with some of them to remove the engine it seems LOL.
I tried replacing a head gasket in one of my cars a while back, nope, have no clue what I screwed up but the car ran before I tore it apart, didn't run afterwards...that's the end of my mechanical attempts, got very expensive very quickly, and ruined a car I enjoyed driving although it was an old car, and very dull and boring, I enjoyed it because it was just a plain old simple car without all the electronic garbage on today's vehicles to deal with.
Thanks for finally doing the update. Bravo on that repair!
I see now to never use cheap fake belt kits.
It’s worth the exploration. Great video
Great video. Glad you got the car starting again. I like the warning about the counterfeit parts too!
Great video. Couldn't stop watching.
I GOT SUPER EXCITED WHEN IT TURNED ON!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Good vid. I use those craft sticks for many applications as well. They're also excellent for applying Shoe Goo.
Hey Eric... nice to see you got your Munsters' fast-motion going at 1:59. I just did the timing belt work on my son's 2000 Camry V6 (118,000) using an Aisin kit & Continental PS/Alt belts from Rock Auto. I used FelPro crank/cam seals and a Toyota tensioner. With so much junk from who-knows-where out there for parts, being careful is an understatement. It's one thing when you screw (17:04) the motor, & another if it screws you. Good, patient work. Thanks for the closing advice.
Thank you for not milking it!
We love you Eric!
Awesome! Engine sounds smooth.
Hey maestro Eric I hope everything is going well for you and your family blessed and safe and thanks again for keep us teaching to your views I’m pretty proud to have you and blessed for us and for my self because I learned a lot of things and auto mechanic from you and your lovely videos thanks maestro Eric stay safe and blessed
Absolutely love the real world feel of this video. You and your real life situations are so very relatable Eric, to many of us, and that’s why your channel is so popular.
So many folks out there clamor about how they only buy oem parts blah blah. Well, that’s good advice, but on a $200 car, where reliability isn’t a huge deal. Why spend the extra $? I mean it’s not a customers car, it’s yours.
I was going to interject also, as I had to do this once on a jdm b20 engine which didn’t have a crank position sensor mounting, you can jump the cam and crank sensor signal wires…it’ll cool the engine and it’ll run just fine. Again, in this situation where it just needs to run would work. My situation was a $500 crv and it’s still running jumped out to this day, and that’s been 6 yrs ago,
It's always great when people 'get it'. Thank you for that.
Unfortunately this video shows the complete opposite. Potentially counterfeit parts left him broken down on the side of the freeway requiring a tow. Could have also crashed the engine. I am all for economical repairs. The Gates kit he used for the new parts is a reasonable risk. I am done buying parts off Ebay/Amazon for the risk of getting counterfeit parts, and still paying hefty for the parts.
@m ph THAT was the point of the video. I had a suspicion the parts were counterfeit when I installed them, video linked in the description. Since this was a $200 car, I felt I could experiment. If I break an engine no big deal in my mind, it's a content opportunity. The point is, I make these videos for a living. The more stuff breaks, the more views I get and my kids get to go to college. I hope that puts a finer point on it for you. Thanks for the comment.
I just had almost the exact same failure on my 98 Accord 2.3. The crank/tdc sensor housing broke, causing the bolt to back out and shred the belts/timing components, which were less than 10k miles on them. But being an interference engine, it bent a couple of valves. So I just rebuilt the entire engine. I ended up spending almost 1500 dollars on the rebuild, but now I have about the newest 98 Accord in the area.
Did it burn oil before and does it now?
Had an 03 TL with the same engine and used your video that I bought for 11$ in 2011 to do a water pump timing belt job myself, best 11$ I ever spent. Glad to see if a timing belt brakes, there’s still a chance the engine isn’t damaged.
How many gearboxes have you been through? My '03 TL died with its 3rd transmission in it. They certainly got their act together on the 3rd gens though. Great cars
@@RothBeyondTheGrave Should have ditched the Acura transmission and replaced with one from a V6 Honda Accord or Oddessy instead
Those were definitely counterfeit parts. The shrink-wrapped water pump is a dead giveaway. I bought a counterfeit timing kit for my 07 TL on ebay but thankfully I realized what they were and got a refund before I installed them. Then I bought the Aisin TKH-002 instead. Amazing that your engine survived! Time to buy a Lotto ticket.
And he went ahead and bought a gates brand replacement lol
@@preciadoalex123 lol I know I cringed when he showed the gates replacement
Hey man I bought a timing belt kit on eBay last year for my 2005 mdx with 250k on the odometer. I’ve been postponing the job just because of time and I’d prefer to do it myself. The belt that’s on the engine is still in good shape so I figured I’d wait until the summer. But now I’m 🫤 skeptical about the part that I bought. Can you please tell me how to tell if the parts are counterfeit or not?
Success ! Great video, Eric.
The engine runs smooth. Hope the car last a long time. Whatever you need to fix besides the timing belt, water pump and things.
I would have tried the same thing as well. If you do need a replacement engine, you'd likely redo the timing belt and water pump anyway so all you're losing is some work time. Nice, Eric.
if you have time you can pull the valve covers and rocker arms and check the valve spring heights (should be the same).
I did this to on budget co-worker
Eric, what a nice job you achieved. You mentioned don't forget to do compression test on engine, that is critical to ensure your engine had not damaged due to timing belt failure. High performance engine would have broken because of timing belt failure.
I used to have a Saturn and the belt tensioner went on it. The boss that the mounting bolt went into broke off as well. I just drilled it out to use as a spacer as well and hoped the threads in the block would hold. Had it for a couple years after that and it held up just fine.
I got a 05 acura mdx with transmission issues for 250.00. Instead of replacing it I diagnose the problem and took out transmission, took it apart and replace a broke sprag. Now I got a nice shifting vehicle. Lesson is take a chance on something that not quite broke. Good job on timing fix.
Wow that's incredible! My TL had crank sensor issues causing multiple misfires at high rpm. I'm astonished that your's didn't bend any valves. Long live the $200 TL!
Its impossible to bend valves if the timing belt is fine with proper tension and not skipping a tooth, it mechanically puts the crank and cams in sync. Valve float at high rpms is a diff story.
@@traktion9 I was commenting at how astonished I was that HIS valves didn't bend because the belt snapped. My belt didn't snap, it wasn't getting proper crank signal. Most Honda engines destroy themselves once the belt snaps. It probably depends on how fast the engine is turning. Thanks tho homie 👍
Cranking compression sounded good. As soon as i heard that I knew it was gonna be good!
Congrats! Feels great when you luck out & win one.
Great job. Gates are good stuff and i had good luck with Intermotor parts. Happy new year from Norway 😊
I am glad it worked out for you!
Scannerdanner would be proud of the crank sensor fix!
I also purchased likely counterfit parts off amazon for the timing belt on our '07 MDX. Crazy thing is that ours also failed in late November 2021, but that was after almost 30,000km of driving on it. Weird thing is that the serpentine belt that came with the kit failed in the exact manner that yours did (chunks missing), and that really should have been a warning to go in an replace the timing belt again. The mechanic we had the car towed to also suggested we put a timing belt on it and see what would hapopen, but with our needs for that vehicle having changed (only one person driving it at a time, the space and fuel waste was unneccesary) and the vehicle having done almost 400,000km at the time (was also starting to succumb to rust), we decided it was time to part ways. Easily the best vehicle we've ever owned. We owned it since new, and it definetly didn't owe us a even a single dime.
Sorry you had to say goodbye to it. Thanks for sharing that.
What did you guys replace the MDX with?
Excellent work!
Resourceful you are! Nice job.
Thanks for this video ,youve given me hope
There is a good post on the odyclub forums about a fake ebay timing belt failure. The pic of your belt (at 35:50 on your video of the timing belt replacement for the Acura) shows the writing on the belt you used and it clearly matches what the fake belt looked like in the odyclub forum post. But you were very lucky by not having interference damage. Thanks and keep up the great videos.
You should refer them to this video also. The entire reason I installed the counterfeit kit was to see if it would fail. Now that we know, we know. Thanks for the comment.
I like the thought process at 5:15. I would have likely jumped straight to "get a new engine" but you make a few really good points about "what if" the engine is still ok. Looks like it paid off as well based on the victory celebration later on in the video too!! Great video!!
It's not the first time either. ruclips.net/video/enPNb8dxCZk/видео.html
@@ericthecarguy Nice!! Yeah it's a great way to approach that situation and I'll be keeping it in mind for sure!
Dude I was thinking counterfeit parts from the very beginning. You got so lucky!
I've gotten lucky three times with belt snaps on Hondas I've owned or worked on. I've been working mainly on Hondas for little over ten years now. More like a hobby really. But glad it worked out Eric.
I used to have corolla with non-interference engine. I had a timing belt broke once for no apparent reason as well, the belt was also relatively new.
Glad that she is still running.
You are right, I hated what you did with the CPS to make it work, but I can't deny that on my own car I might have done the same thing if I had thought to do it.
AWESOME video I had a honda civic hatchback years and years ago my timing belt broke while driving antifreeze everywhere and so on I took it all apart put it all back together but no luck at all it was like running on 2 cylinders 😥😥😥😥 I miss that car
Good advice about the timing belt. Years ago, I had a 1988 Honda Accord that ran great......until the timing belt broke. It had a interference engine, and my mechanic said it (the engine) was probably done. He went ahead and put a belt on it and it fired right up. Drove it without any problems four more years until I traded it in. You never know.
You have so much patience.
Great Save..
Thanks for the information..
👍👍👍💯💯💯
Awesome video!
Great video content! Hope that Honda V6 is a non-interference type engine, otherwise you will have a bunch of bent valves.
Update: You got lucky! Glad it worked out well for you despite the carnage under the timing covers.
It IS an interference engine, and you should watch the entire video. Thanks for the comment.
Nice Job Eric. Years ago I replaced 2nd timing belt on my old 04 Ody at 200K. Bought a kit that had a continental belt and Aisin Pump. Idlers were painted black. 32K miles later I got a call from my wife that it was dead on the road. Towed it home and found belt broken. I surmised the idler bearing was seizing intermittently as there was pieces of the smooth side of the timing belt burned onto the smooth surface of the bearing and wear marks on the back of the belt. Tried the same thing as you with a new belt and the original koyo idler. I wasn't as lucky as you, bent valves. Beware of cheap off brand kits!
Sorry to hear that happened. Glad you got it sorted though. Thanks for the comment.
You are one lucky dude Eric!
Electrical connectors are always a pain to fix and find components for. Great fix!
I work at parts department in Finland. We have lot's of Gates brand timing belt kits, it is insanely rare that they have issues. Other good aftermarket manufacturer, is Ina. I have installed their timing belt kit, with water pump on my old eg civic. Really high quality parts, it was a joy to install them.
I have to say.. Once a car leaves me on the side of the road.. I can’t ever hardly trust that car again!
And if that’s the Honda you did the in depth timing belt video on… then you for SURE got a counterfeit kit. eBay is not worth the hassle, folks. Just go directly to the dealer, or even aftermarket from like autozone would be better than the crap they allow on eBay like sites.
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Eric, your videos have helped a lot on a couple other vehicles. Hope I can get some insight, as I have 2008 TL as well. It has sort of a ticking at startup recently, and then at idle it would cycle in and out every 30 seconds or so...hear for around 10s, go away for 30s, repeat..185k on engine. At stop light last week and oil pressure light flickered on and off a few times...the exact day I was going to go to thicker oil (10w30) and buy some time and see how that went, figuring the bearings needed some help. I added some Motor Honey and all sounds are pretty much gone at startup and idle for now, except if I go to 2k RPM or so, I get a constant ticking. Oil pump and main bearings (from DNJ) are here, but after seeing the timing belt and water pump come off to do the pump, I think I'll keep the existing oil pump intact. I thought it was with the oil pan. Plan on pulling pan to look at bearings, but if you got any insight beforehand based on this, it's greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Nice fix
well done, you lucky man. cheers.
I learned my lesson with sensors. Stupid expensive but work. Aftermarket sensors did a doozy on two of my cars
God job sharing
Awesome video.
Eric, I suspected you used counterfeit Honda parts from Amazon in the last video when you replaced timing belt on this car as the water pump was different from OEM and the link you provided in that video had horrible reviews like your case. Unfortunately my suspect is confirmed! The root cause is that the poor quality of any of these dirty cheap honda fake parts you replaced, in this case the bad timing belt. For those who have replaced timing belt with those cheap parts recently, please redo the job with parts from trustable vender or Honda dealer to avoid the near future catastrophic event happening on your Honda engine!
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How are you Les?! It's been years.
I bought my wife a near mint low mile, anthracite grey 05 TL 6 years ago,before I gave it to her as a surprise,I got a Honda dealership put it a new timing belt,water pump, tensioner and new drive belts,been purring along ever since. I get my 2001 Prelude belts done at Honda too,can’t really beat OEM quality 😎
Hey Eric thanks for sharing with us. Good advice on the knockoff parts. It's a shame that some sellers market their parts as "OEM" but are just knockoffs. It's an awful feeling being broke down on the side of the road. I've been there!! My TL looks exactly like yours, except mine is a 2007. I actually replaced my timing belt/accessories with the same kit you bought in this video the Gates TCKWPWP329. Currently have 1 year and 10,000 miles on that Gates kit. Seems to be working well. On a side note, I went into the local Acura dealership to grab a part a couple years back. I couldn't help but notice a "cut away" display it showed "Gates Timing Components" by the parts department. Made me kind of wonder if that's the brand that this particular dealership used when they perform a "timing belt service". I never asked the guy, but that always stuck with me. But anyways thanks for the awesome videos Eric!!
Hi Eric how r'u well I saw the 📹 again from the t. belt and all I need to say is that ur good as a mechanic cause I see u' don't give up that easy: enyways God bless and like you say stay dirty ..