Honda J Series V6 Teardown! How Did Someone Manage To Destroy One Of Honda's Most Reliable Engines?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024

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  • @joeclarke9782
    @joeclarke9782 3 года назад +402

    When the Captain of the Boneyard says "We don't get many of these in here," you know its worth buying a car with said motor. Thanks for the teardown.

    • @unclejoe6811
      @unclejoe6811 3 года назад +20

      LoL look into their automatic transmission 😂

    • @agenericaccount3935
      @agenericaccount3935 3 года назад +46

      @@unclejoe6811 Best practice: buy one strapped to a manual.

    • @Timotheousturalyon
      @Timotheousturalyon 3 года назад +20

      @@unclejoe6811 I have a 2001 I bought with 54000 om it that wasn't giving me any trouble at 74000 miles. I took it in to get the fluid changed because I had heard they give trouble. They said something was weak on it and changed the whole transmission for free. I have changed the transmission fluid every 15000 miles since then and now have 240000 on the car with no issues.

    • @TheIggyTech
      @TheIggyTech 3 года назад +8

      @@unclejoe6811 the auto is what killed mine lol. I got to 189k on my 07 Accord, then the auto self destructed. Engine was still solid.

    • @unclejoe6811
      @unclejoe6811 3 года назад +4

      @@agenericaccount3935 agreed at least they didn't cheapen the manual like they did on the 01 Civic they lose input shaft bearings before the clutch.

  • @justsumguy2u
    @justsumguy2u 3 года назад +294

    You've done a lot of grenaded engines on this channel, but this one hands-down wins the carnage prize (maybe even for all-time). You might never see another engine that ate 3 pistons

    • @espey5980
      @espey5980 3 года назад +9

      boostedboiz did it first

    • @justsumguy2u
      @justsumguy2u 3 года назад +18

      @@espey5980 Yeah, but those guys are special ed stupid

    • @kenmohler4081
      @kenmohler4081 3 года назад +8

      I am surprised it ran long enough after it started to come apart to do all that damage.

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull 3 года назад +9

      @@kenmohler4081 It came apart in the northern third of the tach to do that much damage.

    • @harmonicadude4732
      @harmonicadude4732 3 года назад +24

      If it was a manual car they could have money shifted in to second from fifth wile trying to pass someone. Then left it in gear all the way to when it came to a stop.

  • @chrisfreemesser5707
    @chrisfreemesser5707 3 года назад +114

    "Sounds like a cash register".....yeah, for the MECHANIC :D
    Gotta admit, the way those two intakes were kinda weaved together had a very Japanese zen look to it...very cool

  • @eeffreef330
    @eeffreef330 3 года назад +131

    "there's no malice in the combustion palace." Never heard that before, gonna use it

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 3 года назад +6

      heard it a couple videos ago i think, but only ever from this guy. great line

    • @SurelyYewJest
      @SurelyYewJest 3 года назад +10

      It’s one of his -isms. Gets used in about half the teardowns, usually when he finds “piston-adjusted valves”.

    • @MattExzy
      @MattExzy 3 года назад +7

      'piston mcnuggets' .. 'cash register engine' ..this one's got it all lol

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 3 года назад +6

      @@SurelyYewJest right there with 'engine gapped spark plugs'

    • @billyjoejimbob56
      @billyjoejimbob56 3 года назад +7

      @@SurelyYewJest Often found in the same engines... "adjustable connecting rods".

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla1987 3 года назад +95

    I have always wondered how those huge oil splatters on the highway that last nearly a mile were formed. Now I know.

  • @911Jimmyjames
    @911Jimmyjames 3 года назад +51

    Great video. I love the J35 engine. My wife's friend ran hers without any oil for a week straight driving over 500 miles. I noticed her oil light was on. She responded, "Oh, that just means I need an oil change." I filled it back up with 5 quarts and she drove it for 5 more years. I don't know too many engines that can sustain that kind of abuse. Thanks for the tear down. It great to see how well that engine was made!

    • @samholdsworth420
      @samholdsworth420 3 года назад +3

      🤦🏼

    • @goosenotmaverick1156
      @goosenotmaverick1156 2 года назад +2

      Just had one die on me at 307k miles. Should hear back from the machine shop to see if the one bad bearing damaged the crank beyond repair or not. If it can be repaired, I plan o repairing it and driving the car til I cant maintain it anymore. I assume with a proper rebuild the engine will outlast the chassis even if it is in good shape now.NNo rust, no major accidents, some dings and dents around the car, but mechanically solid til this happened. And it didnt die, heard the sound and pulled it apart less than 10 miles later. I take care of it, but it definitely gets driven. This is my first j35 and my 3rd j series car. 12th honda built vehicle lol

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 2 года назад +3

      Some people should just not own an ICE or buy an EV

    • @nicholasvinen
      @nicholasvinen 2 года назад +5

      @@mikefoehr235 don't worry, if they can trash an ICE car, they'll find a way to destroy an EV too.

    • @hellswindstaff91
      @hellswindstaff91 Месяц назад

      🥴🥴🥴🥴😂

  • @47plymouth
    @47plymouth 3 года назад +109

    I always liked that Honda puts stuff together with standard fasteners. No Ribe, triple square or wierdo e-torx bolts. If you have a standard set of metric sockets, you can take it apart. Not that you have to very often, but working on Honda motors is not difficult.

    • @billyjoejimbob56
      @billyjoejimbob56 3 года назад +2

      It doesn't take much to keep a Honda V6 running for a long time. Oil was seriously lacking somewhere. I expected you might find a shredded timing belt, but no... that looked fine. Could you tell if it had been changed at some point, or did it appear original?

    • @dawicked2k8
      @dawicked2k8 3 года назад +13

      I was just watching a RUclips car dude fixing a BMW engine and my God what a pain in the ass, those Germans sure like to make things difficult

    • @zubirhusein
      @zubirhusein 3 года назад +19

      @@dawicked2k8 yep I seen Audis with internal and external torx, internal hex, internal triple square, and 6 point and 12 point hex on the same engine

    • @dawicked2k8
      @dawicked2k8 3 года назад +4

      fetusflipper lmao that sounds like they are just trolling

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull 3 года назад +19

      @@zubirhusein Audi doesnt want you touching that engine. They want you paying their techs to touch it for you.

  • @riotgaming4887
    @riotgaming4887 3 года назад +61

    Tears down a completely destroyed v6 honda engine and shows the carnage of the aftermath and then keeps the ball rolling by ending the video standing in front of a mangled to hell car. I love it

    • @twobyfour
      @twobyfour 3 года назад +6

      I saw the wreck and immediately thought....."That will buff out".

  • @roberthillman1
    @roberthillman1 3 года назад +37

    I love how you still use the correct sequence of undoing the bolts even though the engine is toast.

    • @Antmattroman
      @Antmattroman 3 года назад +5

      dont want to risk warping the bent head lol

  • @hellkitty1014
    @hellkitty1014 3 года назад +147

    This thing is indestructible...as long as you remember to change the timing belt and water pump. They will run forever. Unfortunately, many don't do proper maintenance. This particular engines looks to have grenaded at high RPM, plus it wouldn't surprise me if it was oil-starved. The J-Series Honda and 2GR-FE Toyota V6s are the best of mainstream V6s in the last 20 years.

    • @karlschauff7989
      @karlschauff7989 3 года назад

      2GR-FE? 🤮

    • @hellkitty1014
      @hellkitty1014 3 года назад +13

      @@karlschauff7989 in terms of reliability, you literally can't kill those.

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy 3 года назад +17

      The last 20 years? They're probably the best V6s ever made!

    • @wesley115777
      @wesley115777 3 года назад +4

      @@hellkitty1014 Well, now it appears you can kill one of those - unless you're saying this one is down, but not out . . .

    • @tx4runner459
      @tx4runner459 3 года назад +1

      I firmly believe the 5VZ-FE was the best. 2GR-FE is a great engine but early ones had head gasket issues. Lack of power is the only thing about 5VZ-FE, however they respond REALLY WELL to power add-ons.

  • @bjb3006
    @bjb3006 3 года назад +159

    Two things.
    1. The thumbnail was completely misleading and I’ve never been happier to be fooled. The amount of carnage in this engine is phenomenal!
    2. The fact that this happened even in a known reliable engine is astonishing. It goes to show regular oil changes go a long ways (or making sure you don’t put multiple tubes of rtv on the oil pan).
    Great video!

  • @ernestdesoto1906
    @ernestdesoto1906 2 года назад +20

    This wasn’t a teardown. It was an autopsy!
    Love your videos. Wish you had a website of your available engines & parts.

  • @griffojm
    @griffojm 3 года назад +114

    That had to make one hell of a noise when the engine "shut off."

    • @brentfarvors192
      @brentfarvors192 3 года назад +8

      When she "Don't need no man..."

    • @cirian75
      @cirian75 3 года назад +1

      I'm betting one hell of a money shift

    • @ThefireballVR
      @ThefireballVR 3 года назад +1

      Ever heard the sound of two gears grinding? That's what mine sounded like after it punched a hole through the piston head and smashed the spark plug.

    • @Cynsham
      @Cynsham 3 года назад +1

      That engine just shut off on the freeway, absolutely no indication what happened to it… aside from the ear shattering explosion and the fact that my car sounds like a cash register making change..

    • @mikekokomomike
      @mikekokomomike 2 года назад

      Sum ting Wong. Bang ding ow.

  • @wesley115777
    @wesley115777 3 года назад +60

    For me, the highlights are "disconnecting rods" and watching the main bolts get removed in the proper order so as not to warp the block. Best carnage ever!

    • @xinx-fn8973
      @xinx-fn8973 2 года назад +1

      Not like taking the bolts in the wrong order would’ve mattered anyways 😂

    • @unrelatedshark
      @unrelatedshark Год назад

      I loved the adjustable pistons

  • @ivanzavala307
    @ivanzavala307 3 года назад +15

    As soon as you showed the excessive RTV on the pan, I immediately thought of the FA20 and the valve spring recall. People were getting them done, then weeks later blowing the engine. The cause? The techs, following the procedure, used too much gasket maker in sensitive areas, and the engine would eventually suck it up through the oil passages and clog the oiling system.

  • @carltonpulliam4068
    @carltonpulliam4068 3 года назад +49

    Some people could break a puddle of water. Not surprised they found a way to break this engine.

    • @craig3.0
      @craig3.0 3 года назад +9

      Reminds me of my friend Johnny. One time, I saw him cut himself with a wrench. To this day, I'm still not sure how the hell he did that.

  • @rodahlbrandt2638
    @rodahlbrandt2638 3 года назад +25

    These videos are simply so much fun to watch. As a non-mechanic I like learning how things all fit together, but I really appreciated the explanation about how the installation of the pan most likely led to the crankcase confetti party.

    • @kauf0144
      @kauf0144 3 года назад +1

      People have to remember that this guy is disassembling engines that are completely destroyed. He's not necessarily an expert on any particular engine. He knows enough to tear them apart and I'm sure he knows enough to put them back together too. But...he's not in the business of reassembling these for 100K+ additional miles of service and he's probably rarely seeing these engines when they're operational. A lot of people are blaming the RTV on the pan for what happened. For those that love to defend Honda or those that don't know what happens with J30's, that seems like a fair answer. However, it was missing the damage on the bearings and journals elsewhere in the bottom end to suggest a pickup being clogged or some other oil starvation issue extreme enough to cause this type of damage to the rods and pistons. There really weren't any signs any RTV actually made it into the pan or pickup either. The circlips spewed everywhere and the missing wrist pin, for those of us who know these engines, was all we needed to see to know that this was a wrist pin that gave way after conn rod small bore bushing and piston pin bore wear essentially allowed the pins to rock around while the engine was operating. This is a common failure on Honda J's. Many a short-block have been replaced due to this.

  • @thesoundoftransit
    @thesoundoftransit 3 года назад +16

    I own a J35, Pretty reliable engine.
    Other than the battery that dies if the car is left sitting for a month, Its a reliable motor, With about 163K Miles on the clock. Its the only Honda engine id ever drive. Quiet, Smooth ride.

    • @goosenotmaverick1156
      @goosenotmaverick1156 2 года назад +1

      Mine just died at 300k and it was neglected maintenance wise before I got it. But it didnt destroy itself like this, I heard a light tap and immediately checked it out, I'm impressed this rotated enough times to destroy itself this badly 😂

    • @renaldobryan1047
      @renaldobryan1047 2 года назад +1

      Yea i have a j30a4 190k miles absolutely 0 issues. Just had the timing belt and water pump changed. Still drives smooth as butter

  • @refineme
    @refineme 3 года назад +3

    252,810 miles on my 2007 Accord V6 auto sedan. Still my daily. Original owner, new back in 2006.

  • @txaccord
    @txaccord 2 года назад +4

    I really enjoyed watching this video. I own the highest mileage j30 engine with now 960k miles. It's still running, but after a million miles, it's getting pulled out because it's currently running on 5 cyls. I'm not going to tear mine down all the way like this, but plan on taking the heads off as well as exposing the bottom to see what it looks like.
    Thanks again for doing this. Very entertaining!

  • @timtimtimmay4654
    @timtimtimmay4654 3 года назад +16

    That may very well be the most semi contained carnage I've ever seen. Usually when it's that bad, there's no integrity left to hold it all in. Damn. 3 cylinders of screaming fury.

  • @woodswalker1111
    @woodswalker1111 3 года назад +11

    Loved my 06 Ridgeline. That thing payed for itself a thousand times over. Very cool to see what the engine looks like. Sold it after the timing belt and water pump swap and still see it around town.

    • @emmanuelalva6597
      @emmanuelalva6597 Год назад

      I had an 07. Never let me down but it was getting rusty so had to let it go.

  • @securityguy
    @securityguy 3 года назад +8

    330k miles on the same motor on my 07 Accord V6. Bank 2 is always darker due to PCV re-misting oil back in by the way. I have an oil catch can installed and it clears it up.

  • @dustytables3638
    @dustytables3638 3 года назад +20

    I have no idea what you are doing there, nothing about engines nor tearing them down. However, I watch this channel as I find it oddly satisfying and calming. And I have no idea why that is either...

    • @handbanana6843
      @handbanana6843 3 года назад +2

      I’ve loved engines, cars, and mechanical stuff my whole life and I learn something new every video. It’s a great way to learn but yes very satisfying and calming. I think it has some asmr levels of sounds and pacing.

  • @MayheM_72
    @MayheM_72 2 года назад +5

    I ran a 1 man parts dept at a Honda dealership for 12 years. I have not had to order many parts at all for J30 engines. I can't even think about known engine issues with this engine. Now the J35...especially with the cylinder deactivation feature, they can have oil consumption issues. Honda has made a powerful, reliable engine without needing the weight and complexity of DOHC. Change the oil and timing belt, and these things run long and strong.

    • @ding9633
      @ding9633 9 месяцев назад

      What about oil pump seals?

  • @ImCrimson
    @ImCrimson 3 года назад +6

    My fave part of these videos is the satisfying "snap" of the caps and/or head bolts being cracked loose. Love it

    • @charliedee9276
      @charliedee9276 3 года назад +1

      Glad I am not the only one who finds that sound so satisfying. I heard it earlier today real life....removing the heads from my Jeep.

  • @nolongeramused8135
    @nolongeramused8135 3 года назад +18

    I remember when Autolite plugs were actually pretty good. Of course, that was also when I carried a spare set of points, cap, rotor, and plugs with me everywhere I went.

    • @chuckschillingvideos
      @chuckschillingvideos 2 года назад

      The plugs are fine. The point he was making was that shortcuts in maintenance items had been taken.

    • @adamtparker6515
      @adamtparker6515 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@chuckschillingvideosBosch Platinum was the go-to to get me out of bind where last two cyl on 305 had some play or oil valves were stuck open. Fired like a dream with anti-foul extensions for next 20k miles or so.

  • @pope9349
    @pope9349 3 года назад +6

    My j35 in my 2012 acura tl runs like a champ.Got the belt done last summer,she is good for another 10 years.

  • @largo2001
    @largo2001 3 года назад +8

    Thank you for this channel; it is simply amazing! For us "armchair mechanics", the knowledge on display, the effort and the easy to understand presentation is invaluable! Keep up the good work Sir!

  • @zhvonte
    @zhvonte 3 года назад +45

    I have a relative who has a honda accord 2dr with the V6 and manual transmission and has over 500k miles on it. That motor is stout. I am actually shocked someone was able to blow up that motor.

    • @clarkdl1997
      @clarkdl1997 3 года назад +4

      Mine with an auto is still going at 353k, tho it had a very rough life before I got it.

  • @09corvettezr1
    @09corvettezr1 3 года назад +9

    What a coincidence, the wrecking yard I work for just pulled a J series out of a 2009 MDX on friday afternoon and I will be getting ready to ship out on monday.

  • @paulschab8152
    @paulschab8152 3 года назад +6

    My 05 MDX has 170,000 miles on it and still going strong. Been putting Mobil 1 or Castrol Edge 5w20 full synthetic in it.

    • @michaelmichaelagnew8503
      @michaelmichaelagnew8503 2 года назад

      My 07 TL has almost 150k. I've taken care of it really well. Bought it at 30k miles and have always put 5w20 full synthetic in it.

  • @MrWoodyBalto
    @MrWoodyBalto 3 года назад +12

    Wow! That's an impressive amount of damage. I believe the customer when he states "It just stopped running". It sure as hell aint running in that condition. ☠

    • @chubbysumo2230
      @chubbysumo2230 3 года назад +3

      they aren't wrong, it did likely just shut off. it just made one hell of a lot noise before it did.

    • @razorback20
      @razorback20 3 года назад +2

      Such people shouldn't even be allowed to drive, let alone cars with such fine engines.

  • @davidjeromedawson
    @davidjeromedawson 2 года назад +2

    That’s some serious carnage! My wife’s “shut off” on the middle of the interstate too, except it was due to a faulty aftermarket timing belt tensioner. The belt, tensioner and water pump were replaced last November. Belt slipped off and the rest is history.

  • @coleregan7115
    @coleregan7115 3 года назад +4

    These engines are just damn near bulletproof with timely oil changes and replacing the timing belt components when due.
    I love the J-series engines. The K Series is probably my most favorite, but it's hard to beat the J series, too.

    • @kauf0144
      @kauf0144 3 года назад

      Nah. They're not. Talk to people with J35A/Z# or really anyone with J30A4/5....this problem is what happens when the ticking that they make gets blamed on belt tensioners or valves being out of adjustment. Both high $$ required maintenance but often not the cause of the tick. This engine has a wrist pin let loose...a common J problem that often times is able to make it a decent amount of time until it does what this engine did. These engines have some very serious flaws, this being one of them. The anomalously high maintenance required for them when compared to other mainstream V6 over the past 20 years makes stuff like excess pin clearance intolerable. If you've ever been in one of these engines, you'd know that it's really not all that Honda fanboys have made it out to be.

  • @powerman1955
    @powerman1955 3 года назад +2

    Now THAT'S the kind of mess I watch this channel for, I believe you've outdone yourself this time. I think I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the entertainment value you provide is phenomenal. Best thing happening on Saturday night, hands down! Thanks for another stunner.

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  3 года назад

      Thanks! The blown up ones are the most fun!

  • @jrhalabamacustoms5673
    @jrhalabamacustoms5673 3 года назад +3

    It was kinda fun watching you chase the engine stand around the shop! Enjoy watching your adventures.

  • @alexpearson7693
    @alexpearson7693 3 года назад +6

    Sold my accord with 300k miles because it needed its third transmission. Engine literally never had a problem.. oil changes and timing belts is all I ever did

    • @antimon40
      @antimon40 2 года назад

      Did you replace your trans fluid?

    • @michaelmichaelagnew8503
      @michaelmichaelagnew8503 2 года назад

      @@antimon40 This is what I was wondering when he never mentioned it. Might have been his problem. It's something that should be done every 15k miles. Or if your a little paranoid do a partial change everytime you do an oil change.

  • @MadScientistsLair
    @MadScientistsLair 3 года назад +8

    It's interesting to see how this evolved from the old and similarly reliable Honda C engine. Clearly they had a good thing going because the changes appear to be evolutionary, not revolutionary.
    Funny enough, the C engine was "heavily studied" by Chrysler when they went to replace the K cars and they needed a new flagship V6 to go with the new car. The result was the 3.5 OHC which looks a lot like a love child of the old pushrod V6 from the K cars and the Honda C engine. It's not a complete knockoff obviously but the resemblance is striking.

  • @shootr04
    @shootr04 Год назад +1

    That j30 was definitely singing before it let go with that kind of carnage!!
    I have a 6-speed Accord sedan with this engine, and I absolutely love it. It was interesting to see one that has been blown up!

  • @robm9772
    @robm9772 3 года назад +35

    Heart breaking to see that engine like that. I love those Honda V6's and it annoys me to no end that Honda isn't putting them in the Accords anymore.

    • @gregmercil3968
      @gregmercil3968 2 года назад +5

      The biggest reason I lost interest in Honda. They should’ve never deleted the V6 from the Accord.

    • @Slaktrax
      @Slaktrax 2 года назад +4

      Thanks to the craze of hybrid cars and using smaller (too small) turbo-charged engines in vehicles that used to use a ''proper'' sized engine that would last a million miles. These puny turbo'd engines would never last that long. I think we are going backwards, thanks to our politicians and the ''Green New Deal''.

    • @1575murray
      @1575murray 2 года назад +8

      The trend these days is to use 4 cylinder engines with turbochargers to get better fuel economy due to US EPA regulations. However there's no real replacement for displacement! I dislike the turbocharger as it is a high maintenance item that will cost big bucks to replace when it eventually fails.

    • @ChuiStrong
      @ChuiStrong 2 года назад +1

      There's two foods to this. The V6 would've gotten cylinder deactivation, which is known for its own issues. The V6s we're great, and the vtec crossover is oh so old school. We can even get a taste of it in the current gen Odyssey and what could've gone in the Accord. The 2.0T is nice, with the 10spd. But the V6 would've been awesome.

    • @Kevinb1821
      @Kevinb1821 2 года назад +1

      Something tells me the driver was clueless and was just driving down the highway with the music so loud they couldn’t hear the engine blowing it self apart until it finally died and they felt car slowing down. It looks like the engine was blowing up for 15 seconds to cause that much damage

  • @billwall6271
    @billwall6271 3 года назад +12

    Have you done a video on an interference engine where the timing belt snapped? Next to oil starvation (driver induced), that's an operator-induced failure that kills engines dead.

  • @TYLERTRANCE
    @TYLERTRANCE 3 года назад +17

    That wet oil spot underneath the water pump is most likely from the oil pump o-ring. It's the weird looking one and is commonly misdiagnosed. They are pretty much guaranteed to leak after 150k miles. I do them with every timing belt job in addition to the pickup tube o-ring and the two o-rings for the oil galley pipe in the top-most hole for the oil pump.

    • @izzmus
      @izzmus 3 года назад +3

      Most people don't want to spend the extra money for dropping the oil pan to get to the oil pump O-ring until it's a problem, though. I do them every second timing belt, after they start leaking halfway through the first replacement belt.

    • @MrSamPhoenix
      @MrSamPhoenix 3 года назад +2

      How does one change the O-Ring?

    • @izzmus
      @izzmus 3 года назад +6

      @@MrSamPhoenix Remove the timing belt and tensioner, then remove the exhaust Y pipe and oil pan, then you can remove the oil pump to replace it. It adds about $300-400 in labor to a normal timing belt job. It's the stereotypical $10 part in a $1000 place.
      There is a corollary O-ring in the rear main seal plate that also leaks, that one requires transmission R&R to change, and it leaks at about the same age.

    • @MrSamPhoenix
      @MrSamPhoenix 3 года назад +3

      @@izzmus wow, I already did the timing-belt replacement job on 2010 Acura TL… which took me 9 hours to do lol.

    • @dylanandersen9318
      @dylanandersen9318 3 года назад +4

      @@MrSamPhoenix Be glad you aren't doing them on flat rate at that pace! I do them at work in about 2-3 hours depending on how focused I stay.

  • @brianhall23
    @brianhall23 3 года назад +8

    Honda makes some tough engines! That thing hung on for a long time to do so much internal damage.

    • @RuthLessPirate901
      @RuthLessPirate901 3 года назад +4

      Poor thing kept running while it mulched itself

  • @clayton8465
    @clayton8465 3 года назад +6

    Explosive video. I’d have loved to be there to see how that one blew up! Wow!

  • @Mittencarpentry
    @Mittencarpentry 3 года назад +22

    RTV: The bigger the glob the better the job.
    - AVE

  • @MrSamPhoenix
    @MrSamPhoenix 3 года назад +8

    One of my favorite engines of all time as well. Very easy to work on, compact, smooth, fuel efficient, torquey, & did I mention Smooth?! Not to mention very pretty to look at with the hood opened!
    About the only thing annoying about this engine is doing a timing-belt job while the engine is in the car.

    • @ThefireballVR
      @ThefireballVR 3 года назад +2

      Little to no room to get a socket and wrench down there. I stopped putting all the timing belt cover bolts on just because of that.

    • @renaldobryan1047
      @renaldobryan1047 2 года назад

      My mechanic drops the engine

    • @MrSamPhoenix
      @MrSamPhoenix 2 года назад

      @@renaldobryan1047 what lol?!

  • @HondaSolutions
    @HondaSolutions 3 года назад +2

    I did the oil pan and oil pump reseal on my J30A5 without dropping the subframe. Just lifted the engine a little especially on the passenger side. No issues. I used just the right amount of Hondabond after watching a tech do it on RUclips

  • @alexpearson7693
    @alexpearson7693 3 года назад +10

    Calling the piston adjustable and watching it move like that was a good laugh

  • @johnbee7729
    @johnbee7729 Год назад +1

    The various covers with the manufacturer names are perfect garage art. Would like to start getting some of them.

  • @pudermcgavin4462
    @pudermcgavin4462 3 года назад +4

    One thing a lot of folks forget about hondas is they have a recommendation for valve lash adjustments pretty regularly. But NOBODY ever does them!

    • @kauf0144
      @kauf0144 3 года назад

      Sure...lash ends up being only mildly loose on them though. That in and of itself is almost never a cause for catastrophic failure. This is a classic wrist pin failure. That ticking noise these make when cold is one of three things usually...loose wrist pins (very common), valves out of adjustment (noisy but not necessarily dangerous), and worn LMA on the intake rockers. Honda likes to use the short skirt piston slap line as an excuse for #1 (see how much it cost GM for their 60 deg V6s...which is why Honda lied through their teeth about this problem), out of adjustment valves are typically off by only a couple thousandths, and the LMA typically will cause issues with VTEC but most people don't even realize these J's have LMA but are hardly ever destructive.

    • @michaelmichaelagnew8503
      @michaelmichaelagnew8503 2 года назад

      @@kauf0144 They can also make that ticking noise when cold if the valve's are adjusted too tight but it goes away when warmed up.

  • @andydhillon1977
    @andydhillon1977 3 года назад +2

    I have a 2003 Accord V6 6-spd. Great engine. I prefer the J32, J35, and J37s. They have much more potential than many people know. I'm hoping to build a J35/J37 one day. 300WHP isn't too difficult.

  • @carterthiessen2664
    @carterthiessen2664 3 года назад +9

    If you keep a good belt on these engines, they're the best modern v6 out there

    • @tails300
      @tails300 3 года назад

      They’re good but Toyota’s is way better just because of the fact they timing chains and self adjusting valves. The current 2GR version makes over 300hp too.

    • @samholdsworth420
      @samholdsworth420 3 года назад

      There are people out there who say these j series engines are non interference...

  • @patrickcarrillo714
    @patrickcarrillo714 3 года назад +1

    The Breaker bar every Mechanic's favorite tool

  • @stuartdavies78
    @stuartdavies78 3 года назад +4

    Another great tear down.
    Just an idea. Have you considered putting a couple of decent pieces of wood either side if the central leg of your engine stand and putting your black catch tray over them. You might stand a better chance if catching everything.

  • @brucecurtis101
    @brucecurtis101 8 месяцев назад

    great video, well done my friend, just bought a 2011 accord v-6 w/6 speed Manuel . 75,000 miles with no issues. I need to do a timing chain and water pump upgrade because of the mileage and have all fluids flushed. should last a long time as I am 70 yrs. old now and had a lot of great cars back in 60's.70's and 80's.

  • @Oddman1980
    @Oddman1980 3 года назад +14

    I think we were trying to show off how fast our Accord was, and after going 100 MPH with a side of bad maintenance, one rod turned loose, and because the car was moving at a high rate of speed, bits of rod crunched around and broke two more.
    Or maybe I'm completely wrong.
    On oil pans - a similar situation can happen with a first generation Chevy Colorado. You can get the oil pan most of the way off without taking the steering rack off, but if you plan to put it back on, and seal it properly, you really need to take the steering rack off.

    • @kauf0144
      @kauf0144 3 года назад

      A wrist pin let loose. Very weak point on these engines. I wouldn't blame the owner at all.

  • @raydar2630
    @raydar2630 2 года назад +2

    "Carefully". LMAO!! Dude... I'm almost 65 years old. I've been messing with cars since I was a teenager. I have *never*... seen an engine fragged that badly inside. (Well, other than internet pictures of half the block blown out.) Jeez. And yeah. I'm also impressed with Honda engines. I had to do a valve job on a J35 that broke a timing belt. (Ahead of schedule, I might add.)
    Keep on keepin' on. I really enjoy your videos.

  • @Cartier_specialist
    @Cartier_specialist 3 года назад +29

    I guess theoretically it could have just "shut off" at about 130mph and 6000 rpm with the stereo blaring they may not have heard it. Perhaps they thought the subwoofer had a little extra kick that day.

    • @norcal715
      @norcal715 3 года назад +1

      That thing could 6000 rpm all day. I think someone "tuned" it and it was closer to 10000 rpm. Just my thought.

    • @Cartier_specialist
      @Cartier_specialist 3 года назад +1

      @@norcal715 Not with poor oil flow.

    • @grunthostheflatulent9649
      @grunthostheflatulent9649 3 года назад +3

      6000 rpm in 4th and hit 3rd instead of 5th.

    • @kauf0144
      @kauf0144 3 года назад +3

      @@norcal715 Nah. The top end on J's != the top end on B's. They can hit 7K...then it's all over. The bottom end on these is really the problem...even with what looks like a stout main setup, the rods, sleeves, and pistons actually can't handle that much abuse. I said this elsewhere...but the J30 is not J32. The J30 was the build em as cheaply as possible and as fast as possible version. The J32 and some versions of the J35 are much better engines than the J30...they're built a lot better for one.

  • @curthenry9398
    @curthenry9398 3 года назад +2

    When I saw the RTV sticking out from around the oil pan my first thought was a plugged oil passage. RTV you just need a thin coating not blobs.

  • @aaroncostello8812
    @aaroncostello8812 3 года назад +31

    Owner : "The engine just shut off..."
    Mechanic: "Were you listening to Slayer at the time?"
    😆😆

  • @Mightion
    @Mightion 3 года назад

    I was enchanted when I saw the different colors of the varnish inside the two cylinder heads. Then holes were shown, and sarcasm was very artistically supplied.

  • @customcruzer
    @customcruzer 3 года назад +3

    I worked on Honda's for 17 years at a dealership and it is very common for the front head looking like a lack of oil change's and the rear head looking healthy on any J-engine of this era. I'm convinced its a engineering issue like it just doesn't flow oil well in the front head, they seemed to fix this issue at some point because I don't see this happening anymore!!

    • @kauf0144
      @kauf0144 3 года назад +1

      It's the PCV valve. They never get replaced, are often stuck/clogged...and the front takes the brunt of it.

    • @chrisl1751
      @chrisl1751 Год назад

      The pre-2010-ish J-series always have one head that looks more oil varnished than the other. It’s directly related to which head the PCV valve is located on. On this J-series, the PCV is on the front head and so the oily blow-by gases circulate in this head and discolor the components. Even a religiously maintained J-series can’t help but develop this discoloration. On my 2002 J-series, the PCV is on the rear head and the valve train is always a dark color whereas the front head is clean and looks brand new. It’s not an issue due to oil (or lack of it) just a “feature” of this design. Someone posted that late model J-series don’t get discolored like this anymore. Either way, it never affected the remarkable durability of this brilliant engine which just may be the cleanest, smoothest, and most robustly designed V6 ever put in production. The engine in this video expired due to major neglect or faulty maintenance that was enough to exceed the motor’s tolerance for abuse.

  • @PDXBeach
    @PDXBeach Год назад

    I had a 2006 honda accord 2.4l 4cyl and it burned oil like crazy. It still ran well even though I had starved the oil. Love to see that engine on your channel.

  • @jeremyparsons2944
    @jeremyparsons2944 3 года назад +7

    I've torn down plenty of those, damn sticking rings on the VCM versions
    the front head is always worse under the valve cover, it's the pcv system(back cover get the fresh air, front cover gets the dirty air)

    • @jamesmedina2062
      @jamesmedina2062 3 года назад

      is there basically no way of doing VCM right?

    • @aggrex
      @aggrex 3 года назад

      @@jamesmedina2062 we gots to turn that sh#tt OFF! Full send on all six cylinders....LOL

    • @jamesmedina2062
      @jamesmedina2062 3 года назад

      @@aggrex on the highway at 65 mph what do you do?? put it in 2nd gear at redline pegged to 7500 RPM?

    • @adamUDavies
      @adamUDavies 3 года назад +2

      You have to install the S-VCM and no more problems

    • @billyjoejimbob56
      @billyjoejimbob56 2 года назад

      Had a 2006 Oddysey with first gen VCM. Never missed an oil change, and the VCM still worked at 180K. But the "active" motor mounts stopped working, and the NVH got very annoying. Put a VCM bypass on it and it worked... still ran well at 200K when I traded it. I have three Hondas now with the third gen VCM system. All get 0W-20 full synthetic oil with changes according to maintenance minder. Newest version of VCM is nearly undetectable in all three cars, oldest of which is a 2013 Acccord at 120K. Use the right oil and change it on schedule!

  • @morrisl7
    @morrisl7 3 года назад +2

    Strange I was hoping you’d do a j series these past few weeks and my prayers were answered!

  • @tylerhensley2312
    @tylerhensley2312 3 года назад +16

    We used to put about 8psi boost to that type of engine in the sand rails we used to build and holly shit were they quick!

  • @nofilter2091
    @nofilter2091 3 года назад +2

    I can't imagine what that sounded like when it let go. Great tear-down

  • @TestECull
    @TestECull 3 года назад +19

    9:20 I was expecting timing belt failure to be the root COD here, not gonna lie. Countless cases of Hondas with 'it just turned off on the highway' eating a valve sandwich because the belt(s) broke due to neglect.

    • @exaltedb
      @exaltedb 3 года назад +2

      “Valve sandwich”
      I like that analogy

    • @kauf0144
      @kauf0144 3 года назад +1

      Nah...not neglect. A lot of timing belts snap because people take them to their hardly better than DIY mechanic who installs a crappy aftermarket belt. People definitely do miss the timing belt change on these...that's for sure. But it's almost just as common for the belts they got from the Rock Auto special to fail prematurely. This engine died not because of the owner though. It died due to a well-known flaw with these engines.

    • @brentboswell1294
      @brentboswell1294 2 года назад

      A Honda engine will dump oil into the timing belt cover if you look at it funny...when my wife had her Accord when we got married, I couldn't believe how many conversations with the mechanic started with "and it ruined the timing belt". That had to be the first engine that I've ever seen that ruined a front seal. That car sold me on timing chains

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull 2 года назад +1

      @@brentboswell1294 I like two steel gears meshed together and pressure oiled. Cant go wrong.

    • @brentboswell1294
      @brentboswell1294 2 года назад

      @@TestECull I dunno, I prefer engines that actuate the valves directly with the camshaft...nothing like an engine that makes high RPM music!

  • @jdub976
    @jdub976 3 года назад +1

    My sister had one of those engines. The engine had 206000 on it when she sold it cause she got bored of the car but it still ran like new and didn't even burn any oil. They were an amazing design.

  • @notdone123456
    @notdone123456 3 года назад +8

    Man all you need to get that thing up and running again is some Hondabond, zip ties and some atf, it’ll run like a charm after that

  • @ts46176
    @ts46176 3 года назад +2

    You always release these videos at bed time and I'm always so tired the next day lol

  • @davidtappe5337
    @davidtappe5337 3 года назад +3

    Hot damn, one of the few peoples I get along with.
    Thanks for the upload.

  • @g1channel
    @g1channel 3 года назад +1

    Got a 2005 accord v6 with one in it. 160k miles and going strong

  • @lastguy8613
    @lastguy8613 3 года назад +3

    Hey i hope you were putting all those caps and pistons down in order Eric

  • @madusmaxamus8670
    @madusmaxamus8670 3 месяца назад

    I worked on Honda's from the 70's into the 2000's and have to tell you I have never seen a Honda grenade like that one did. I still own a Honda/Acura and still love them. They are ell built, serviceable, and reliable. I do not know what that person did to that engine, but it was nasty. Thank you for showing us what happens to these engines.

  • @devillenm5525
    @devillenm5525 3 года назад +3

    I have 2 6th generation Honda accord sedan ex v6 cars. A 98 and a 2000. Both with the j30. The 98 has over 330 thousand miles on it and the 2000 has almost 248 thousand miles on it. Both of my cars run like a top. Absolutely nothing bad to say about the j series.

  • @warbirdwf
    @warbirdwf 3 года назад

    You commentary while doing the autopsy continues to get better and better! That engine almost looks like it participated in an "engine blow" contest! Someone redlined it until it grenaded!

  • @patrickcarrillo714
    @patrickcarrillo714 3 года назад +6

    It just never ceases to amaze me how someone spends tens of thousands of dollars on a car Then not take care of it just blows my mind

    • @a.c.6475
      @a.c.6475 2 года назад +2

      Predominantly an American mindset, we have a "throw-away" mentality!

  • @t0mn8r35
    @t0mn8r35 3 года назад

    What was in the oilpan made me lol...it is an absolute miracle that it turned over...this one is my favorite so far. Well done!

  • @TwentytenS4B8
    @TwentytenS4B8 3 года назад +13

    That thing sounded like skeletons screwing on a tin roof. It didn't just "Shut off"

    • @3030hp
      @3030hp 3 года назад +1

      thanks for this visual.

  • @gt1man931
    @gt1man931 3 года назад +2

    Always a pleasure to watch.
    Thanks for keeping the content coming.

  • @gryfandjane
    @gryfandjane 3 года назад +3

    Man, that’s just hard to believe. So much destruction in one engine!

  • @johnwithcats
    @johnwithcats 3 года назад +2

    woo great saturday night entertainment! and I have one of these engines in my honda! thanks Eric

  • @JPR3D
    @JPR3D 3 года назад +4

    Honda J engines have got to be some of the most underrated and underappreciated engines on the planet, from the very first J30A1s all the way up. Excellent engines in every respect even though they're SOHC, and unlike most V6's they don't resist climbing RPM, they seem to welcome it. It's a shame about the paper-mache auto transmissions most of them were mated to.

    • @juanrobles3381
      @juanrobles3381 3 года назад +1

      I haven't had any automatic issues with my early 2000s Honda/Acura cars. I do change my transmission fluid and filters frequently though.

    • @Whateva67
      @Whateva67 3 года назад

      @@juanrobles3381 yes,most people don’t change the transmission fluid enough. It’s cheap enough to do every few years.

    • @kauf0144
      @kauf0144 3 года назад

      @@Whateva67 Not enough with these cars. They literally need to have their fluid changed every 10-15000 miles. It's the only way they make it past 150K. The transmissions in these cars are terrible....I've rebuilt them and every time without fail, the non-serviceable filter inside is clogged completely, third clutch is destroyed, and often times, more catastrophic damage is found elsewhere due to the lack of lubrication. Unfortunately, these engines aren't much better. They are high maintenance and there are serious flaws in both the top and bottom end that will eventually make these engines nothing more than boat anchors. Many fail prematurely and not due to owner neglect.

    • @michaelmichaelagnew8503
      @michaelmichaelagnew8503 2 года назад

      That is their big weakness. If I new what I know now I would have gotten a 2008 tl type S instead of the normal 2007 tl. Regardless the 2007 and 2008 TL have the RL transmission which is probably one of the few very good auto trans they have made. The normal tranny for the 2004 -2006 Acura tl was made and designed in America and has a design flaw. Its a piece of garbage.

    • @michaelmichaelagnew8503
      @michaelmichaelagnew8503 2 года назад

      @@kauf0144 You are right on the transmissions but these engines are probably the best V6's on the planet for the past 25 years. They are not called bullet proof for nothing. This is why the guy was very excited to open up a bad one because they never go bad.

  • @markandkiminnewzealand2702
    @markandkiminnewzealand2702 3 года назад +1

    Wow
    That engine is knackered
    Great tear down
    Thanks for sharing

  • @FeralPreacher
    @FeralPreacher 3 года назад +6

    Who said a Honda 6 won't turn 12 grand? Hold my beer!

  • @rickbaker4571
    @rickbaker4571 3 года назад

    Considering what went on in that engine, it is absolutely AMAZING that it still turned over... AMAZING!!

  • @timbrown9731
    @timbrown9731 3 года назад +3

    I sure wish you could get your hands on an EZ36!

  • @lukemeisenbach1964
    @lukemeisenbach1964 3 года назад

    Love it! RUclips just spammed me with an Autolite commercial right after your plug removal.

  • @hyperboloidofonesheet1036
    @hyperboloidofonesheet1036 3 года назад +3

    That looks like one of those 1,000 piece puzzles -- after a dog tore it up!

  • @babaganoosh555
    @babaganoosh555 3 года назад

    This just kept getting better!
    What kind of person tries to claim it just shut off when the evidence to the contrary was there before you even tore it down 😅

  • @HooyahPeacock
    @HooyahPeacock 3 года назад +3

    "Where do you start?"
    Me: With a little bondo then some compound shit will buff right out

  • @bobbyt3358
    @bobbyt3358 2 года назад

    Eric, I checked your video playlist and I did not see anything on a Ford 6.2. Maybe one day . Thanks for the great effort you put into your videos.

  • @eviladm1n
    @eviladm1n 3 года назад +15

    Probably in a manual transmission car. Looks like it started tearing itself apart at high revs and then the inertia of the car kept the engine turning and grinding itself to bits long after the engine stopped making power.

    • @rayanali6058
      @rayanali6058 2 года назад

      How did it even get to this point? Lack of oil and lubrication for long periods of time?

  • @michaelgleason4791
    @michaelgleason4791 3 года назад

    I've made a few mistakes in my days as a shadetree mechanic, but nothing anywhere near so catastrophic! That was a sight to see!

  • @clifbradley
    @clifbradley 3 года назад +9

    If you ever lost the laser gun to take the headbolts out...unsubscribed. I find you funny, entertaining and informative. But that laser gun...highlight of my week. Yes, I'm a single dad of 4 kids. So you know...little things.

  • @post_historic
    @post_historic 2 года назад

    I have a 2004 honda accord with 627,000 miles. First motor and trans lasted over 500,000. Best ever made

  • @TestECull
    @TestECull 3 года назад +10

    3:23 I have noticed over the years that engines can be fussy about plug branding. If I put a set of autolites, champions, or AC Delcos in my 300 I6 it runs like absolute dog shit. If I throw some Motorcrafts or NGKs in it it purrs like a kitten.
    I would go straight for NGKs on a Honda engine.

    • @stevebot
      @stevebot 3 года назад +3

      No engine runs well with Champions, even if they are OEM. My last encounter with them was my snowmobile, with Champoons you had to warm it up fully on cold starts otherwise they would foul if you ran it briefly. A set of NGKs solved the problem.

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull 3 года назад

      @@stevebot I've had pretty good experiences running them in flathead Briggs lawn engines over the years, but not much else. That being said, the ol' Flatty will also run just damn fine on an NGK, sooo....

    • @unclejoe6811
      @unclejoe6811 3 года назад +1

      Ironically champion is oe for Chrysler.

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull 3 года назад +8

      @@unclejoe6811 Chryslers run like shit by default so it's not like they can make it worse haha

    • @stevebot
      @stevebot 3 года назад

      @@unclejoe6811 Wasn't the TorqueFlite the auto trans design you stole for the Chaika?

  • @paulstan9828
    @paulstan9828 3 года назад +1

    Always enjoy the weekend engine disassemble.