Absolutely. You really feel like a lone wanderer. That's why I was so amazed (in a bad way) by Fallout 76. For me, Fallout is supposed to be a solitary experience. 76 seemed like the antithesis of Fallout 3.
Agee 100%. Fallout 3 is my absolute favorite. Love the atmosphere and everything about it. Little bias because it was my first fallout game but it’s just so awesome
@@MrHammers agreed. Ive played all of them and I really enjoy the other games. Put more time than I wanted to admit into 4 and NV but 3 will always be the best.
I wanted to fall in love 4 like I did with 3 and NV but I just couldn't. I still enjoyed the hell out of it but I don't look back it fondly like 3 and NV
As a classic fallout fan I liked it I think new Vegas just overshadowed it with the story telling actual ironsights and better modding scene of new vegas sure I like new Vegas more but fallout 3 is still fun
back when the games came out, most people actually preferred fallout 3 to new vegas. they found the new vegas world bleak and it was annoying how you couldn't join a single faction in the entire game. there's a certain point in history that a very vocal minority began to over glorify new vegas
@@zekun4741 I remember when it first came out the biggest talking point was its technical issues, For me the 2 things that bugged me about it was the fact that it had no post ending gameplay (though that was due to time restraints so I can understand) and the Legion with its Roman aesthetic, I just found them to be a bit of a downgrade to the power armour wearing Enclave, the whole army with ragged/ancient looking attire just didn't really appeal to me
I love new Vegas, but it just didn’t give me that same sense of dread that the capital wasteland offered. In fo3 I could get lost in the world, but there some things about new Vegas that kind of were immersion breaking and ruined the atmosphere.
@@christopherjohnson9167 I get you as a classic fallout fan because The dread of fallout 1 got lost in 2 but fallout 2 is still my favorite classic fallout and new Vegas is still my favorite
I absolutely love FO3 and wish there were more vids singing praises for it. It was my first fallout and there is so much I love about it from Charon my precious 7ft gift to the wasteland to the amazing and interesting quests you find from just stumbling around! I would love if you'd do a more in depth look vid even if it is just on one of the best fallout dlcs. FNV is my favorite fallout but 3 was my first and there really is nothing like experiencing this world for the first time
Fallout 3 is also my favorite Fallout game.. its because of the story, the voice acting and the land itself. You can explore DC and not get bored at all bravo 👏
I hear what you’re saying about “echo chambers” creating artificial dissonance, and something good gets trammeled. I feel this strongly, as I love Fallout 4 and Dark Souls 2, and I blame it on fanboys who elevate a particular game onto a pedestal, and demonize other games in the same series.
I used that vending machine in front of the super duper mart to hoard everything I found until I completed a mission that gave me a room. Ahh good times.
Fallout 3 was my first fallout game, I loved playing and will still go back to it but to me its not as good as New Vegas, which I do consider a good thing since New Vegas was a sort of sequel to 3 and New Vegas did improve on alot of 3, which to me a sequel should always do I never really got all the Fallout 3 hate aswell
If you ever felt like NewVegas felt lackluster compared to 3, thats because NV is a spin off fallout title, it wasnt even made by bethesda studios but rather a much smaller and limitied studio.
Even as a big New Vegas guy, it's nice to see some love given to Fallout 3 for all the things it excels in. And this video actually does a good job at communicating the impact and wonder the game leaves you with/draws you in with. Despite the backlash it was receiving for a good while, it remains a classic that injected life back into the series.
Excellations: >Post Apocalyptic survive or die in a world of pain >Great DLCs, as good as new vegas based in their own right but more loosely connected, short but sweet. (Excluding zeta) >You can go anywhere you want at the start of the game >World building not as good as new vegas but still rewarding to explore the world more so than fallout 4 imo >successfully integrated VATS in a 3D shooter (not easy to accomplish) >they didn't shit all over the lore yet with retconns and even though the west was developing they still tried their absolute damndest to explain why the east coast was in such a state so the OG fallout 1 and 2 fans got to get drawn in and experience the post apocalypse in 3D
@conartist j countering your counters. -"everything is easy from moment 1" depends on difficulty and how good you are at fps games and the like in general. i struggled first time around, but once i got the hang of it i barely had to use VATS even. i am absolutely certain most people feel that way. -Operation Anchorage was great as it gave a look into pre-war american mentality, how the war on the ground would have gone down, the technological differences between the chinese and the americans and the role of heavy armored infantry in the war. It also gave you some cool gear. Point Lookout also delved into aspects of pre-war america, primarily with its prison camps and with the questline about the chinese spy. It also had some fun hallucination bits that did actually pertain to the player character and their experiences. It also went deeper into the widely enjoyed Dunwich mythos that fallout 3 and onwards has steadily built on. Mothership Zeta and the Pitt were however very "meh", that i will agree on. Broken steel i wont even acknowledge, as that was a blatant attempt by Bethesda to force players to buy DLC just to get a proper ending. -plenty of open world games that absolutely fail at the open world part. Just look at Ubisoft's most recent entries into the open world category. Fallout 3 had memorable locales and did reward exploration with easter eggs, settlements, quests and loot. Whilst not something that should be lauded as revolutionary, being successful at providing fun is good enough on its own. -Why arent you people complaining about the lack of talking Deathclaws? Lets face it. Fallout 3 and onwards might as well be a different timeline all things considered. But to say that Bethesda hasnt injected anything interesting into the franchise would be a blatant fucking lie. Otherwise you wouldnt have Obsidian jump on the chance to make fallout new vegas using the same engine and even have some of the plot points and shit. There is a reason why New vegas blows outer worlds out of the water. -"why does it look like the bombs just fell after 200 years" Because DC is a battleground between several warring factions fighting over buried government secrets, weapons and technologies. there is also the theory that the nukes used on DC were radioactive rather than explosive nukes, used specificly to induce long term harm.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 Countering your countering counters: - The game rewards you with a 1hko weapon for simply following the main quest. Of course you can find difficulties in certain areas, but let's be honest, it's not too difficult and there is not a lot of variance. New Vegas went beyond just Energy weapons and Ballistic, adding armoured targets and the ability to use different types of ammo for added effects. - Operation anchorage? You mean the on rails simulation that serves as limited world building? It was mediocre, giving good rewards for not a lot of effort. Point lookout was decent, had a different atmosphere, I'll give you that. Broken Steel fixed the game's crap ending and should have been included with the base game. It was a sloppy fix to something that shouldn't have been broken. The Pitt? Actually had some decent world-building in the use of Troggs and a moral choice, only to fall flat on the escaped slaves who literally want you to steal a child with no long term reason to do so. - Open world? Sure it is. Is it meaningful and does it help to establish a believable setting? Not really. The only two factions making any effort to branch outside of their own little hovels are the Brotherhood of Steel (who were completely butchered in their pre-established lore), and the Enclave (who are cartoon villains with no sympathetic through line). The world may be open immediately, but who cares how wide the ocean is if it has the depth of a paddling pool. What interesting locales are there really in Fallout 3? I struggle to think of any that could match those seen in the Mojave. Does anything beat the spectacle of Helios One? How about the Strip (even though it was still fairly barren)? What about Novac and Hidden Valley? The world felt alive, and not dwelling on the great war as if it happened yesterday. - The world is contradictory, how are these people eating? Do they eat wild-life or vegetation? Where is the vegetation to feed the livestock and the people? New Vegas believably showed farmsteads and the sustainability of the world. 200 years and there being no progress? I mean, it's been less than 100 years since the Blitz, Hiroshima and Dresden, yet all of these places have been restored almost completely. 200 years is more than 6 generations of people, and you're telling me all of them were happy squatting in the bombed out remains? Again, compare this to New Vegas, where communities form in the shell of the old world, but still build upon it. The NCR? Slowly reconquering America. House? He's using his money and business sense to reform the barbarous tribes of New Vegas, and if the ending cards are to be believed, he prospers. The Legion? While regressive, they have a unifying culture under Pax Romana. Fallout 3 should have been set far closer to the bombs dropping to make sense. - The best thing Fallout 3 did was to breath life into the franchise once again, and I don't hate Fallout 3. It was my first game from the series, but just because I have nostalgia for it does not mean it is not flawed. It's was outclassed by New Vegas and it's predecessors. Bethesda did a great job making the game feel modern and helping it to meet up the the contemporary gamers mindset, but it did this at the expense of retconning core aspects from the original series. It's a 6/10 game which people have fond memories of, that's the extent of it.
Certainly Fallout 3 is the one that is my favourite, also my introduction into the Fallout universe. I'll never forget exiting the Vault that first time and just having my mind blown when the Capital Wasteland was laid out before me, mind was blown. I've been in love with the fallout franchise ever since. Great video mate.
I cant objectively explain how F3 is better, but I just know they type of guy whos into F3 and the type of guy whos into NV and I dont rock with the NV clowns.
i 100% agree, it feels foreboding. and i know this is unpopular but i love the metro system, how fun would 3 be if you could simply walk the whole streets of dc, navigating the metro system the first time was kinda scary. opening a door and hearing a ghoul somewhere in the halls scream, like shivers down your spine.
I'm gonna stop you right there. There was no new Vegas at the time, nor the shitpiles that are fallout 76 and 4. Fallout 3 is Legendary. LEGENDARY. Bugs and the desolation of the Capital wasteland are what made it what it is.
One of my favorite moments in FO3, was in a total random exploration, when you go through a subway, and emerge in a large industrial courtyard, where you find a factory with pre-war chinese Ghouls, from the Great War that did all the shit in the plot. Eventually, you discover the reason why they are stationed there, and it's really cool. This moment is always with me, and everytime someone mentions FO3, i remember this.
There's so many little moments that catch you off guard and make an impact in the game. Everything BUT the main plot really 🤣. I love that everyone has a unique story like this on the capital Wasteland
@@MrHammers Yoo, you are right. The main plot is just... well, everytime i play FO3, i just ignore it until i want just to start Broken Steel. Bethesda writing for both FO3 and FO4 main plots, its just garbage.
FO3 is also my favorite. It’s bleak scary gloomy and give me a sense of doom unlike the other games. Locations side quests and random events flow perfectly. I can never put this game down. If it had FO4 shooting clothing and weapons mods, and took the melee combat factions and grand locations from FNV, it would be a perfect game
@@DownsquadMost games need a mountain of content to become perfect. But, most games also aren't good enough to create controversy that leads to our discussion
The entirety of the fallout franchise is so bizarre but fascinating with how every installment ends up being different to one another yet enjoyable in their own ways
Having not yet gotten to any of the DLCs, I'm planning to do three others first and saving that one to be the last thing before Broken Steel, because all of the others interest me so much more. Anchorage is beautiful and blue after an entire game of uninterrupted gray and brown, Mothership Zeta is gonzo insanity in space, and the Pitt is a genuine moral dilemma where freeing slaves is arguably the wrong choice, but there isn't really a right one. Compared to all that, brain surgery in a pseudo-bayou just doesn't excite me as a concept, so I intend to do only a little of that before unleashing Liberty Prime and leveling my main to 30.
@@quicksilvertongue3248Broken Steel maps are linear. Mothership Zeta, Operation Anchorage, and most of the Pitt are linear. You can't just walk around in every direction there but you can in Point Lookout, and that's really all it has going for it.
NV is a much more ironed out experience where your guns don’t brake after each gunfight and your automatic weapons actually hit your target BUT i don’t understand the war between the fandom really lol i love both games! fallout 3 absolutely kills it with the “everything sucks and is blown up, trees can’t grow because the soil is polluted” vibe and i love it! it’s a shame that now a days the apocalypse is just over grown bushes taking over everything because i really enjoy the bleak ass fallout 3 setting! i hope we go back to that. but after fallout 4 and 76 i have a feeling Fallout 5 will have even less gray dirt and rocks ):
As much as i see people complain about new vegas fans, its usually the people who mindlessly love 3 and/or 4 that seem the most toxic. Idk about forums, but its definitely the case for youtube comment sections. Especially since the fallout show came out.
Fallout 3 is absolutely my favorite game of all time. I started playing about a year ago. But the world felt so amazing! I began making my own wasteland stories. And explored every location in Fallout 3. I have nearly 400 hours in the game now, and I wish I would have played this game more when I was younger instead of being too afraid to leave Megaton. At this point I have my own fan story that I am writing. A few people have read it and loved the themes, places, and characters. All of which were inspired by this game!
You nailed it with this one. Over the years my love for Fallout 3 has been mixed, until I realized a lot of the reason why I was second guessing myself was just going down a rabbit hole of Fallout 3 hate videos. The Capital Wasteland by far was the best from the series to explore, I'll never forget those first steps out of vault 101. Then going to actual DC in game. It blew my mind, great video for a great game!
Yeah there are plenty of hate videos out there and I don't really get it, it's a great game, and the capital wasteland alone was worth loving the game. Thanks dude
@@MrHammers 3 is a great game. My favorite is nv because the narrative to me is better and I love the dlcs and how connected they are to the main story and each other. OWB is my favorite dlc of any game I have ever played
When NV came out, I’ll never forget the feeling of disappointment (specifically because of the map and factions) especially when I got to NV to find it nothing like the ruins of DC.
i loved the constant sidetracking. you dont just move form a to b in fallout 3. your journey is the chinese alphabet yodelled backwards. every time i set out into the capital wasteland its not for the main quest, but for my own purpose.
Fallout 3 had the best immersion for sure. I loved the "prologue" of being a vault dweller and living that life. Fallout 4's intro felt rushed and unimportant. Even New Vegas' intro is kind of "meh."
Probably controversial, I literally can not go back to playing fallout 3 after playing New Vegas, being able to Aim down sights, the ability to mod my weapons with suppressors, sights etc, and going back to fallout 3 after having all that feels absolutely horrible when it's torn away from me, that's why I use Tale of 2 wastelands so I can actually have that stuff
I can't either, plus the new weapons and their variants and different ammo types, the faction armours, and the new companion system, along with a more highly replayable story opposed to Fallout 3's linear story, and you got yourself a big improvement.
i’ve always loved how you were able to skip huge portions of the game by just simply knowing where to go and who to talk to. made subsequent playthroughs a breeze
Fallout 3 on itself is an okay looter shooter. But it is not on itself. It is a game in a legendary RPG series. A series, which contains Fallout 1, 2 and NV, the legends in the RPG genre. So, if you want an atmospheric looter shooter, then yeah, Fallout 3 is indeed the best in the franchise, and one of the better games in the genre. But as an RPG? It is worthless trash.
I will tell you this, people nowadays especially the fallout fans are starting to accept Fallout 3 as the only fallout game that Bethesda did right, while even me i prefer New Vegas my second favourite fallout is fallout 3, of course leta not forget about fallout 2 and Fallout 1, the old gems of the past, the newer instalments are trash and its unbelievable that the same company that made 3 made those atrocious fallout games but if you see their old video about making fallout 3 you can understand why this game did so good, there was love for the gamers and gaming in general back then and not for our money, bless you Adam Adamovic and rest in peace, that guy created the best art that someone could make in a fallout and even an Elder Scrolls game.
FO4 isn’t a bad game. It doesn’t do what rpg nerds want but it’s not a bad game. Doesn’t scratch everyone itch and that’s fine, but to say they’re trash is just no. 76 though yes was hot trash. It’s meh now.
@@Nopers_ I don't think anyone is claiming it's a bad game. I think it's more that fans see it as a bad Fallout game because it lacks a certain depth that we've been accustomed to through the previous entries. I pre-ordered the pipboy edition and played the absolute shit out of it in its first years, but I can't replay it. Even after putting 300+ hours in one playthrough, doing every single quest, finding every secret, I just can't get into it again god knows I've tried. There's just something that was present in the previous games that I didn't get in FO4, I can't say exactly what it is but it's absolutely a different type of Fallout game
I play SimSettlements 2, which overhauls FO4 into the empire-builder it was supposed to be. FO4 had a lot of great ideas that were never finished, it tried to do too much at once and gave us only a taste of awesome and always left us wanting more, simply because it was IMPOSSIBLE to give us everything. E.g., Silver Shroud costume? Hell yeah! I just get to ham it up as a superhero for the entire quest, and by the end, I actually feel like a superhero! But then, that's it. Barring maybe one or two scenes from the DLC, nothing else, I can't continue hamming up the whole world as the Shroud.
disagree. fallout 4 is a much better game and even a much better fallout game than 3. it's still a bad fallout game, don't get me wrong, but in comparison to 3... new vegas is the only real 3d fallout game to this day. 4 is a decent game, but a bad fallout game. 3 is just trash.
When I first played Fallout 3 I legitimately read most of the terminal’s, I treated it like every terminal had a secret. I really enjoyed being thrown into o a kinda vague world, learning it’s secrets were fun and some of the personal logs are just hilarious.
I agree with the sentiment, but the story and how you interact with it is so horrid. Fallout is so much more than "atmosphere". It's about philosophically challenging situations, choosing allies, and making the narrative your own personal playground.
I have a feeling that 3 being my intro is what helped show me that 1 is my absolute favorite in the entire series. 3 and 1 share the atmosphere that I love. It’s lonely and depressing, but still a bit hopeful. 3 and NV are hard tied in my list as #2 because those games compliment one another perfectly. Where 3 fails, New Vegas takes strides, and where New Vegas fails, 3 picks up the slack and runs with it. It’s nice to see someone who likes 3 and isn’t trying to at the same time pander to the incredibly loud undercurrent of NV fans willing to strap you to a phone pole for disagreeing with them.
I've just recently finished Fallout 1 for the first time (I had played it sporadically before) and I absolutely agree on the atmosphere, Fallout 3 is the one that most closely captures that feel.
I personally like new vegas more but I dont get people that literally shit over fallout 3 while still praising new vegas. They are way too similar to completely hate one while loving the other one. I prefer the kinda straight forward story of fallout 3 but the world is a bit more interesting in new vegas (especially when you include the factions into the mix). great video :)
The factions were so well written and implemented in NV, probably my favorite aspect of the game. I love both games, it's the just the world of F3 that is better to me personally. Thank you dude!
Fallout 3 has that STALKER atmosphere, where the world feels desolate and dangerous, especially the DC ruins. Gives me retro-futuristic American Pripyat vibes. You also start relatively in the center of the map and can just go wherever you want. I like to start new characters with nothing on them and just pick a direction and try to survive the capital wasteland. The whole map is made accessible and this combined with the many intricate side quests makes for an interesting play through every time. There’s also random encounters throughout the capital wasteland which I don’t think New Vegas had. It’s so weird how much hate fallout 3 got I never understood it. I’ve played hundreds of video games and fallout 3 is definitely in my top 10 most enjoyed. New Vegas is fun too, but nothing beats a good walk in the capital wasteland
Stalker is a great comparison for sure! Both games have dangers and an unsettling vibe the whole time you're exploring. Capital wasteland truly is the GOAT
I will give FO3 the respect it deserves. Bethesda bought a minor franchise and brought it into 3D, and did a decent job of it. Was it perfect? Of course not. But was it fun?
It's not a fallout game nothing by Bethesda can be qualified as a Fallout game I view them as a standalone thing because otherwise I have to view them as another example of big gaming industries snuffing out any kind of legitimate creativity and turning what was a good series into a husk while practically carpet bombing series consistency but I digress your allowed to have your opinion
My favorite moment in fallout 3 was finding that town/neighborhood full of cannibals and just knowing something was off about them, and uncovering the dark truth about them with a little bit of snooping, that was actually something else my first time through. That and the whole fire ant situation lol
One of my favorites, too. Something about Fallout 3 that I absolutely loved was all of the bizarre "what the hell" moments, where something humorously weird was happening and you were struggling to understand it, like the Leave-it-to-Beaver VR simulation, or tripping balls in Point Lookout. It feels much more gimmicky in New Vegas with the Wild Wasteland perk, like finding two charred skeletons named Owen and Beru, or a fedora clad corpse in a refrigerator as an obvious nod to Indiana Jones. Those things aren't strange or interesting, they're just movie references.
@@MrHammers oh dude in another vault there is one man with crates of puppets and that's it. AND from the lore that's said he went so insane the 1st person that came exploring he scared them off with mental instability. Good thing they didn't put that vault in the game that would have made the gary clone vault look like a cakewalk. But I would say if your creeped out by the gary vault. Wait till fallout New Vegas with the all plant mutated people vault. Very creepy and they come from everywhere and hide very well.
I started the franchise with Fallout New Vegas and it is still for the right reasons, my favorite out of them all. I only got the chance to play Fallout 3 as late as last year, but it instantly became my second favorite in the series and even beats New Vegas in some aspects, for example... the map, Capital Wasteland.
The thing about Fallout 3, that, for me, elevated it above the others, was the combo of explore and atmosphere. I NEVER had a moment in 3, where I entered a new area and went 'meh, another slog'. I was always having that 'what's over the next hill?' feeling, and there almost always WAS something of some interest over that next hill, even if it was only a destroyed house with a mailbox that exploded when I walked up to loot it. Thank you or doing a video about it that DIDN'T rely on bashing the other entries. Fallout 3 was, much like Oblivion, PEAK BETHESDA. Before they started using the same layout for every dungeon, when the 'sameyness' of locations was down to them being locations that made sense to be similar in formula, as opposed to feeling like it was laziness on Bethesda's end, and back when the side-quests were almost universally interesting and unique, rather than feeling meh the way they tend to in Skyrim and FO4. But also after the ugly jank of Daggerfall and Morrowind. New vegas was a different sort of game, and it's big 'problem' for me, was that it felt too empty. It felt like there just wasn't as much incentive to wander off the beaten path, and it had lost the 'wildness' that 3 had. I went back and re-played Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, FO3, FNV, FO4, and Skyrim, in that order during the long dark that was covid lockdowns. I had initially thought it was a rose-tint, with regards to my views on Oblivion and FO3, but actually replaying them, proved that to be wrong. They just feel RIGHT in a way the other entries don't. They have their problems, but none of them jarring enough to make me want to give up or go off for mods to 'fix' it. On a side note, getting Oblivion and FO3 working stably on a modern win10 system is a good way to waste a few evenings troubleshooting weird crashes.
@@SpartanMJO12 Because the actual environment does not feel as populated. Because far more of FNV's locations have no reason to visit, and lack even interesting presentation. More quests and factions don't mean much when they tend to be either less interesting in many cases (quests) or less present in the world (factions). The factions in NV feel like they don't exist anywhere but their own strongholds. Outside of them, you maybe run into a 3 man patrol once in a blue moon. This made sense in F3, where the main factions were explicitly low in number and stretched thin, not so in NV, where they are, lore-wise, supposed to be everpresent. The exploration aspect of Fallout 3 is a LOT stronger because of both density and the fact that pretty much every building you can explore DOES have some form of interesting to it, some form of 'story' to the location that brings it a reason to exist. FNV? Not so much. FNV has one or two dense interesting areas, the occasional standalone interesting area, and a bunch of rather empty space, dotted with random uninteresting caves and shacks.
Yeah, exploration is one of the few things NV does really poorly. But I’d be willing to bet that was in-part due to both the 18 month development time as well as just the setting. I’ve been replaying both 3 and NV recently and while I’ve absolutely been loving both of them, it’s kind of a slog exploring places in NV, in NV the only places that I actually like diving into are the abandoned vaults, outside of that it’s just kinda meh. 3 does it leaps and bounds better.
@@Sev3617 disagree. 3 had a bunch of buildings, but 90% of them were meaningless boring dungeons with enemies and loot. in nv, 90% of the locations have a quest tied to it.
Fallout 3 was my first Fallout, and I'll always love it. I don't know why Fallout fans have to be so annoying about how good New Vegas is and shit on the rest of the series. I love New Vegas too, but the New Vegas super fans are so annoying.
For a long time, I felt like an outlier for preferring FO3 over FNV. I loved both, but FO3 edged out the other by having the elements I appreciate, atmosphere and exploration. But online, this was the “wrong” opinion. I finally felt more confident in voicing my preference after watching Many A True Nerd’s “Fallout 3 is Better Than You Think.” Which did a pretty good job of articulating the things I enjoyed about the game. Here’s a hot take for you. FO4 is my (current) favorite in the series. I’m more inclined towards mechanics than story, and I just find 4 to be the most fun to play. The exploration is pretty good, too, Boston is an achievement in map design. It could use a few more mini stories tucked away in the corners, but I’m overall happy to hop around the Cmmonwealth, trying new character builds.
Me too and I started playing FNV first, I was not feeling it when I was younger (Or because of the Cazadors I met after getting out of the Doc's place LMAO) Some of my friends keep pushing me to play NV, tried again there was something about the environment I just didn't like. Might try again in the future. Then I tried Fallout 3...LOVED IT yeah the main story was not that great but I do think that was the point because the atmosphere and exploration were what the game was trying to push (I think). Seeing how a big city and capital looked after the war was a plus.
@@RikaRieGaming bethesda stopped caring about story after oblivion, and that is the main reason why fallout 4 and skyrim have such poor writing and basically no choices in quests. fallout 3 had some weird choices in the main story and some actually interesting choices in the sidequests, but it already showed they don't care anymore because "doesn't matter how good your story is, the players will shit on it anyways". yeah... no. some players, maybe, but not the majority. start caring about stories again and your games might become enjoyable without mods, like new vegas.
Nooo! New Vegas is the best (Fallout) game ever, you can't say something bad about it and something good about Fallout 3, 4 or 76! You are not a true Fallout-Fan! Ohhh if Bethesda hasn't bought the franchise , we would've never got bad Fallout games r-right? Only good games, like Fallout Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel. Interplay/Obsidian know what they were doing with the franchise! And all the concept arts and ideas for Van Buren. Yeah, that all would've been it that game! Deadlines and Technical Difficulties? Noo that wouldn't happen. Just look at the the mediocre Wasteland 2 and 3 games that we TRUE-Fallout (New Vegas) Fans don't even play! It's better then every Bethesda-Fallout, exept New Vegas of course, that has nothing to do with Bethesda anyways...so who needs the Elder Scrolls Oblivion with Guns Gameplay...we have New Vegas and Bethesda has nothing to do with that game! W-wait nevermind...ohh um. B-but what if Elon Musk buys the Fallout Franchise? EVERYTHING would've become great, if Chris Avellone would work on it for FREE! So cool, yeah.
@@capin8067 So much so in fact, that I was genuinely fooled for the first couple of sentences that it was really one of *those* types of people Hahah. But yeah, it's pretty crazy how bad some of the echo-chambers are in the Fallout community (Or gaming communities in general tbh.)
"I just don't give a fuck." My man. If you enjoy a game, no matter how objectively busted or flawed it might be, keep on enjoying it. Randos online aren't going to make a game any better or worse, because unless it's the second coming of christ, it's already a predetermined 0/10.
Fallout 3 was one of the first games i've ever played on the og fat-ps3. I don't know if it's nostalgia or anything else but i like it much more than New Vegas for example
I played through the whole series, start to finish, over the last year (for the first time for every game). If I had to rank them - New Vegas > Fallout 1 > Fallout 3 > Fallout 2 > Fallout 4 - The BIG thing however is that the difference in quality (for me) between New Vegas and Fallout 4 was minimal. They all felt like they failed in areas others succeeded or succeeded in areas the others failed. What I took away from the hundreds of hours invested was - I really, really, really want a Fallout 5 that combines the best elements of all the previous entries. I also started on Outer Worlds right after finishing this run of games, and you could feel the big hole in the centre - the world maps just weren't as interesting. It felt like the same locations copy/pasted. Even though the principle gameplay ideas were the same.
I felt the same way about Outer Worlds, I really wanted to love that game and completely agree. Also I agree with the statement that each fallout is marginally in line with the others and each excel at certain things where others don't, very well said!
I never gave a damn about Cyberpunk until it got released and was very pleasantly surprised. Story was top notch for me at least, best game I've played in years.
@@grov508 Wow, good for you then my friend! I also went in with basically no expectations and I still felt disappointed. Didn't care for the story or characters at all.
Burn the witch! Nah, I too love Fallout 3 and got into the series through this little gem...What stood out for me the most was the feeling of helplessness and imminent danger once I first stepped out of the vault to see a barren wasteland. Now that was something no other game in the series could since give me.
Fallout 3 was like the best game ever I wish we could get something that even comes close to the vibe fallout 3 gave just such an awesome story line and you just felt cool walking around the wasteland 😂
@@MutantCyborg001 because your father kills himself for no reason. because u have almost no choices, and if you have, they are just "be the ultimate bad guy" or "be the ultimate good guy". because it's short af. just a few examples.
Fallout 3 is easily my favorite Fallout, and one of my favorite games of all time. I’ve beat this game atleast 3-4 times and I find myself on a 5th playthrough currently. The atmosphere is just so beautiful and fitting. I’ve always been made fun of for my love of Fallout 3 so I’m glad to see someone else love it so much too
I cannot say Fallout 3 is my favourite Fallout game because this is the only one I've played. However, I can confidently say that Fallout 3 is one of my favourite games of all time, and one of the best games I've ever played, period. Moreover, it's a game that ruined open world gaming for me. Ever since I've played this game for the first time 8 years ago, this has been my standard to judge open world gaming. Elden Ring is the first game ever since Fallout 3 to truly impress me with its world. Fallout 3's world naturally makes you want to explore. It's such a believable world. There's so much environmental storytelling, it's amazing. I don't play FPS games. Not only do I lack the skill, but I simply has no interest in the genre. Fallout 3 is the exception. Not gonna lie, access to the VATS system is what allows me to enjoy the game, but you have to give credit to game because VATS is entirely optional. If you have the skill, ignore it. If you suck like me, you can play the game just fine. The characters are fun, the story is serious when it needs to, yet full of fun moments and satire. The sidequests are fantastic. Discovering the other vaults and what happened on them is terrifying and awesome at the same time. Character customisation is varied, and it caters to different playstyles and preferences. You can play this game 3 times and have a different experience on each. Not to mention, all the DLC content is awesome!! I have nothing but praise for this game. Watching this video and writing about it got me excited to go, turn on my PS3 and play it again. And you know what? I think I might just do that!
Was actually interesting to see this since just rewatched a few other f3 retrospectives. F3 and fnv are distinct in my mind. New vegas is the story of the growth of the ncr and the question of the four government styles (house's autocracy, yes man's quasianarchy, Caesars dictatorship, and ncrs corrupt democracy). Fallout 3 is more raw survival and has a lot more connection to the actual prewar and war events. Settlements are disconnected, surface water is contaminated, etc. Being a new publisher of the ip I think Bethesda tried to use too much of the prior factions to bridge f2 to f3 while making something distinct as opposed to a direct successor to f2 as new vegas did since there was no way they wouldn't get burned by fans. Sadly they didn't make it obvious why you didn't have the magitech that let the west recover as it did so you have the "why isn't there civilization after 200 yrs" issues. It's story didn't branch as much, basically good or bad karma and companions were skyrim levels of characterization as well as a lot of story options that were ignored low fruit but it felt like there was an apocalypse rather than new vegas' choose who runs vegas alternate universe political thriller.
Let's be honest, everyone loved Fallout 3 when it got released. There are many videos on RUclips about how it sucks in many aspects, which are mostly true, but when we got this game in the 2000's it was like nothing else before. It also introduced me to the brilliant OG Fallout, and we've got New Vegas thanks to this game. This gem was truly full of content, and i think im never going to experience such an excitement like collecting Nuka-Cola Quantums, then craft them into Nuka Grenades, that had those beutiful explosions with that extreme damage output. There is something special about how this game was able to lead the player through the environments, crafting, combat, quests connecting them all into a unique adventure.
Could you give me a condence list of what sucks about it? Im planning on buying it. I dont have to much time so it will be my only fallout game ill go through.
@@crono276 exploration is fun and rewarding and there are many interesting characters, madison li, Harold, your father the overseer of the simulation vault. Etc. writing has its moments at being Poor and cutting corners but for the most part it is fine with some absolute gem moments, Harold, point lookout the Pitt, etc.
i didn't. i got bored after 20 min of exploration. the only fun i had with 3 was modding the shit out of it to get rid of most of the flaws that destroy the game, like the enemy difficulty or the missing ads feature.but i couldn't change the story, so the game was still utter garbage and it is to this day.
I remember getting slammed on the Fallout Subreddit for saying Fallout 3 is my favorite Fallout game. Fallout 3 gets hailed as a bad game for having a mediocre main questline but so does nearly every Bethesda Softworks game, I don't see why it is so hated it's a better open world as far as exploration goes compared to New Vegas. New Vegas just took an entire game created a few new assets and made it better in some ways.
Agreed. New Vegas is definitely better but in it's own way. The plot is linear making the player go through the same path to New Vegas, which works really well for that game, but I like how Fallout 3 pushes the player to explore the capital wasteland and find shit to do. I hate when people say 3 has no world building because as you explore the wasteland, you become immerse in the DC ruins getting information from random npcs. Both games are great and people who act like 3 is somehow horrible because of a bland story and exclusion of a few NV features just havent played 3 enough.
same here i love the game to death but yah Fnv is objectively better as its well Fallout 3 but more but F3 holds its own very well as itself and get uneeded hate. 76 was shit at launch but it somehow did a No Mans Sky, F4.... dont get me started thats a whole different mess
Yo... I have always been a vehement proponent for Fallout 3. I was so deeply immersed that I felt possessed by the compulsion to travel all over the map to uncover histories and tragedies, all the while being afflicted by the dreary atmosphere. I never had an experience comparable to this in relation to other Fallout games (New Vegas and 4 for me)
I was like 10 when I picked up Fallout 3 at Movie Gallery with no idea what the game was, it just had cool pictures on the box. Little did I know it would be one of my favorite games of all time. As much as I love New Vegas and everything it added, there's something about the post-apocalyptic vibes of DC that feels like home to me.
The Pint Sized Slasher mission is still to this day one of my favorite missions in any game. It just has a very dary and sinister overtone throughout the entire thing. I absolutely love it.
RUclips ruined this game, the amount of videos saying that game is bad can easily manipulate people to make them hate things they initially like, it’s sad because this game genuinely one of the best games ever made and along with NV
I was needing this video. There has been a lot of retrospective hate for Fallout 3 these last years. Which was very weird. Besides IGN and a friend of mine who only liked FPSs, I never heard anyone shitting on F3 before. And I remember how many people were either underwhelmed or not too loving of New Vegas when it released. And some years ago they switched it, dunking hard F3 and loving unconditionally FNV. Why can't we love them both? New Vegas has better writing and choices, and a more believable and diverse world, that represents more of matters we have in our own world. I love that. But Fallout 3 also is an experience, but one that is different. The Capital Wasteland feels like a ludic but drunk graveyard, of ghostly echoes. It feels rustic, broken, lost in memories, like a tv static that forgot what channel it was on. I remember the quests of F3 more too, they feel like a novella, a mystery. So I really like them for different reasons.
These are some of my favorite kinds of videos to see from emerging channels, they feel like checkpoints, content you had to make for yourself, not anyone else. This video was fantastic, i've beat every game in the Fallout series 10 plus times, it's insane to me how Fallout 3 and FNV can be so similar, so impactful, released so close together, and yet they feel worlds apart in tone and approach. F3 and FNV are 2 of my favorite games of all time and I find it hard to compare them, but im so glad this whole video centered on atmosphere, because while I do feel FNV is the peak of the fallout series, and the world it gives you the reigns to is second to none, fallout 3 does the best job of any game I've ever played of making you feel like this is Fallout's world, and youre just playing in it. It's a hard balance to strike because everyone wants to feel like a hero, but man Fallout 3 is special. Oasis, Tranquility Lane, Tenpenny Towers, some of the most immersive sidequests you'll ever find in a western rpg, but even when you're not chasing a quest, the world fallout 3 provides feels alive nonetheless. Really glad you made this video and so happy to see you're channel finding so much success, well deserved my dude! (also Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Valhalla are fuckin bangers, i think ubisoft still has some fight in em)
Well said my man! This really was a video I've wanted to do since starting the channel, it feels good getting it out there. You're right F03 and New Vegas are so close yet so drastically different, I'm glad to see in these comments people.love both for what they are, no reason to hate on the games. Thanks for the comment homie 🙏. And, Ubisoft is trying Thier best at keeping assassin's Creed banging but I still think Far Cry 3 is the Pinnacle of thier catalog haha
This was a GREAT video! I love how you explain all of Fallout 3's problems and then say, "I don't give a f" like after all of these years, we aren't all aware it has issues. I agree whole-heartledy. So many people point out what it does bad and never focus on what makes it special. Fallout 3 is next to my favorite game, with Final Fantasy series being somewhere in first. Even with all of it's issues, I completely don't care because I can get lost in the world of FO3 and lose myself for hours on end. The game feels like a love letter to Fallout series and I believe Bethesda did their absolute best when it came to this game. This was my first FO and without it, I would have never picked up FO1 and FO2, or even New Vegas. People can gripe all they want, but in a lot of ways (including myself), Oblivion was everyone's introduction into TES which is what got me to go back and play Morrowind, my #3 favorite game of all time and FO3 holds a special place in a lot of peoples hearts for the very same reason. I recently just finished a 100+ hour playthrough of FO3 on the Xbox 360 because I wanted to play it vanilla for once and loved every second of it. I maxed a character to 30 and finished each DLC, taking my time as I have done many, many, maaaany times before and I never once felt like I was getting bored, or retreading old ground. I even, like I always do, discovered many new things that I hadn't seen before and new locations I had never discovered. Can't wait for your DLC video, this one was awesome. :)
Thank you! Yeah it's not a perfect game but it does so many things so well that it deserves to be praised for what it accomplished. Same as you it also inspired me to play FO1 and FO2 as well as the sequels and play through all those great games. Glad you liked the video, appreciate it my dude
fallout 3 almost stopped me from playing nv. glad i did, otherwise i would think to this day that the entire franchise is garbage. i can even enjoy 4, but 3? hell nah. that game was just a shitshow.
You perfectly encapsulated a lot of what I’ve been thinking about for years. This was my intro to the series and I have never had a gaming experience quite like it. The dread this world made me feel mixed with a strange feeling of joy and wanderlust was unlike anything else. The wasteland survival guide was one of the coolest tutorial type quests that I’ve experienced, and really puts the player on the right course to understanding how to explore the world and how valuable it is to scope out every location. Also seeing Moira goulified after blowing up megaton was a pretty memorable experience. But O think my favourite element were just the random encounters, it truly felt like a living breathing world that had an element of randomness that most games don’t have but that the real world certainly does. This is one of my all time favourite games, so I really appreciate hearing praise for it that I think is well deserved.
I've easily have at least 1000 hours in all three version of Fallout 3 yes I've completed it 100% across PS3,Xbox 360 and PC where I still continually to play it with mods the Tales of two wastelands mod is amazing and worth replaying it again.
i have like 2k in new vegas, 1k in 4 and 1 hour in 3 because it's trash. after 20 min of exploration i got bored because there was nothing interesting to see at all and then i started modding it, but even then i didn't like it. glad i picked up new vegas nontheless, otherwise i would still think the fallout franchise has no good games. now i played 1, 2, nv and 4 and can confidently say, 3 is by far the worst out of the entire franchise. people shit on the story of 4 and i agree, but it was still so much better than the story of 3. the atmo gets destroyed by poor world building, the buildings are 90% meaningless dungeons with enemies and some loot, the story is not even worth talking about and the rpg and shooter elements are poorly executed, so all in all the game is garbage. how can anyone like this? it deserves a solid 1 on metacritics. there is nothing good about the game. well, that's not true. there are some good quests. but to find them you have to explore the whole boring af map if you don't know where they are.
I appreciate the fact that you didn't defend the worst parts of the game or try to prop it up as something it's not. You just accentuated why I and many others love this game by focusing on what it gets right, the world and atmosphere. Mad props dude. As for a favorite side quest it's not technically a side quest but an unmarked one. The town of Andale was one of the most striking places I had found in Fallout 3 and one of my most memorable moments, finding that shack where they were butchering passersby and then having to make the call of orphaning cannibal children or just letting them go about their business was fantastic and really put more emphasis on the how bleak Fallout 3 really was.
Thank you man, glad you enjoyed it. I totally agree on Andale the first time I discovered that place I was spooked, the slow burn of uncovering the unsettling community was just fantastic
I love fallout 3 to death. It's my personal fav to go back and play. The world is both, big and empty, as well as full of stuff to do. I swear this game has more side quests and places to explore than new vegas does. Any time I play new vegas I know where every side quest is, how to win in caravan, how to make my companions like me. But for fallout 3, no matter when I play it there always seems to be stuff I never tried before or I'm shocked I forgot about. Searching mama dolces to find like 25 chinese soldiers, buying clover just to kill all the slavers and become a good guy again, helping the ghouls peacefully into the tower just for them to systematically kill all the humans proving they're just as evil and bigoted, the outcasts vs brotherhood arguments. It's just so good, I wish I had the know how to remake fallout 3s environment in the fallout 4 enging
I love the game and didn't at the same time. I think the highs of this game are amazing like the atmosphere and the side quest but the lows are disapointing still it was my second fallout game and I don't think I can dislike it
I understand people that dislike the game for certain aspects they value more in gaming, like if you were a die hard fan of the classics and want that role play experience I can't see how 3 was a bummer. In a way I'm glad 3 was my first fallout because I had no idea what I was getting into and just got lost in the world building
@@MrHammers Die-hard fan of the classics, Fallout 3 strips away your role-playing options by giving you an almost completely uncontrollable backstory and giving you quests that typically only have one possible outcome. The other Fallouts (except for 4) leave your backstory almost completely ambiguous so that you can create who you want to play. Fallout 3 railroads you into being a nineteen year-old kid searching for your dad there is no alternative unless you mod the game or ignore the story. While the Wasteland itself is close to the one in Fallout it ignores the fact that the Wasteland was like that because it was only a few decades after the bombs fell and not the two hundred that Fallout 3 takes place in. By Fallout 2 sixty years after Fallout there were groups like the NCR who spread out across multiple cities across an almost entire state but in Fallout 3 forty years after Fallout 2 we see the East Coast in a state that seems frozen in the aftermath of the bombs, like the radiation somehow never dissipated or society never tried to rebuild outside of small settlements over the course of 200 Years.
Yeah, I understand on a role playing perspective it's very limited, I enjoyed the classic fallouts for the roleplaying a lot, but like I said that's not really what I played fallout 3, I'm not a big RPG guy to begin with. And I agree 100% it's dumb and illogical that the world isn't rebuilt 200 years post war in F3, I did mention in that in the vid, but ignoring the lore and just seeing the capital wasteland for what it was was beautiful. Going into F3 the first time I didn't know the backstory or care about the time the bombs dropped, I just saw this wonderful post apocalyptic landscape and loved it. I can totally empathize with people who loved the classics and were thrown off when F3 came out
@@MrHammers The only other thing I'll say is that while I agree Fallout 3 has great atmosphere in most places I feel like most of it suffers from extreme tonal whiplash, its extremely confusing due to them making a Wasteland styled off of Fallout but had an over exaggerated version of the goofiness of Fallout 2 which lead me to suffer tonal whiplash throughout the game. In particular the divide between the raider camps, people dying of thirst and mutants with the quests like Sarah's Nuka Cola quest or The Wasteland Survival Guide. Though actually I forgot your point at the end of the video, Lonesome Road would hold that title not Point Lookout...
I disagree on that front completely, Fallout 2's goofiness is over blown and way more disconnected to the atmosphere and ruined my experience with that game. There was rarely anything I'd say was 'too goofy' in fallout 3, if anything fallout new Vegas had more jokes and stuff in it than 3. The girl who gave the Nuka cola quest and moira's wasteland survival guide were both quests that seemed tonally appropriate. People cling to things and curiosities that make them happy, especially in desolation and depressing settings. Moira was curious about dangers of the wasteland but too sheltered in megaton to do stuff on her own, and the Nuka cola girl was probably a little insane but obsessed with the glowing quantums she's seen a few times. Similar to the sasparilla blue stars in new Vegas. New Vegas has wackier stuff, look at come fly with me, Wang dang atomic tango, etc As far as lonesome road goes, down I agree with you. That's an amazing dlc.
While Fallout 2 is my favorite FO game, and I do like NV more than 3, Fallout 3 feels like the most misrepresented FO. I will likely return to FO3 to complete it.
@@MrHammers lol yeah. I played fallout games for the first time recently. Technically I played Nv for like 20 hours over 2 years ago but that barely counts. When I decided to play FOs again, I went for like like 2 months straight, cracking roughly 200 hours total (that’s basically for NV, FO1, & FO2 ALONE) so I got burnt out when I tried starting 3 and 4. Gonna take a break and revisit it when I feel motivated.
I remember getting Fallout 3 for my birthday with my 360. It was the only game besides Minecraft I owned, and used to scare the shit out of me. Basically, this game is nostalgia and just a pure atmospheric masterpiece.
Fallout 3 did a few things better than New Vegas. In my opinion the grittiness of 3 surpasses New Vegas by a long shot. The color palette of that game is so dark and depressing; it makes you feel like an apocalypse has emerged and the end is very fucking nigh. For instance all faction armors in that game are either black or gray or somewhere in between. To me that does not portray hope, only death and despair. Adding on to this there were many times in Fallout 3 I got so disturbed that I had to set my controller down and think about the shit I just witnessed. A few instances of this would be the basement shack in Andale, the Dunwich building and pretty much all of the Point Lookout DLC. Freaky shit seeing apparitions of Amata dead in in water... While New Vegas added things like wacky wasteland and Old World Blues, (I hate that DLC by the way. Hard sci-fi is better) Fallout 3 really terrified me to think there could be a nuclear holocaust in the future. Seeing our nation's monuments in ruins was incredibly disheartening and brought a tear to my eye as a proud American. What's more gut wrenching is to see the skeletons of people holding each other in what could only be interpreted as their dire last moments. I imagine their thoughts and feelings at the time. Although I still do think New Vegas is a better game all around, and yes I might just be a little biased as I've lived in California most of my lifetime, the vibe of 3 is unmatched to this day. Thanks for reading :)
While NV is more to my cup of tea, I certainly appreciate how much emphasis is given to exploration in F3. Who knows, and this is just a pipe dream, but if one day we can get a fallout that combines the plot and npc of NV and the exploration of F3, with the combat of F4, then yeah, we have a game that can give GTA V's Los Santos a run for its money.
The plot in new Vegas was undercooked, brotherhood of steel just leeched off the other factions, the legion didn't have any significant locations, the raiders basically didn't have a story.
@@wruzzer4 had hardly any memorable locations and new Vegas' highlight was the strip. Which you could walk across in 20 seconds. The place was about the size of megaton. You're the reason we have shit like fallout 76
Well thanks for not being mean about it haha. I didn't want to do constant comparing in this video to New Vegas but the main thing that makes the difference to me is the tone of the world and the capital Wasteland in general beats the tone of New Vegas and the Mojave. Love both games, but the world of 3 is much better imo
Lots of bugs, performance issues, necessity to install tons of mods, empty world, broken, unfinished, storyline after killing benny becomes completely boring and overrated, also all the factions main questlines are all the same and a lot of quests are just fillers full dialogue after dialogue. And the main city is ugly and disappointing.
@@enoismano7486 No bro, because i played new vegas 10 times without mods, it would serve no purpose. What I enjoy about new vegas first and foremost it's it's stellar writing and world building. That you don't fix with mods
Finally a good video showing some love to fallout 3. New vegas is my favorite fallout but its because what i look for in a game new vegas does. But i love fallout 3 because of the strengths you listed. It is so refreshing seeing a video propping fallout 3 up without putting down another fallout game or ignoring fallout 3’s flaws. For that i am subscribing.
No no I agree! I like Fallout 3 the best! Fallout New Vegas is riggghhhtttt behind it but I live in the DMV so the capital wasteland is more personal to me. And yes! Every playthrough I get a new random encounter and discover a new location! And I like how personal the story is in FO3. The story in New Vegas and FO4 are both amazing to me too but idk something about fallout 3 just takes the edge for me
Just get this game and new Vegas and tale of two wastelands and you can have the best of both games in one large game where you get to keep your character for both stories and take items etc back and fourth from both games into each other it really is the only way I can play 3 and new Vegas anymore plus the mod pack updates fallout 3 some and makes it look a little better
The atmosphere in f3 is called artificial loneliness, since it genuinely feels like a wasteland.
Absolutely. You really feel like a lone wanderer. That's why I was so amazed (in a bad way) by Fallout 76. For me, Fallout is supposed to be a solitary experience. 76 seemed like the antithesis of Fallout 3.
Yeah, I hate artificial loneliness, but the music and radio and enemies keep good company.
Yes
Fnv nearly nailed it but They only managed to make a big empty Dessert in the end
@@kiobio7311 it has more locations and quests than f3 so that’s not true
@@koeyguilbeau443 yes it is. All e
Agee 100%. Fallout 3 is my absolute favorite. Love the atmosphere and everything about it. Little bias because it was my first fallout game but it’s just so awesome
I'm biased as well, it was my first fallout game, but even after playing all the others it stands as my favorite
@@MrHammers agreed. Ive played all of them and I really enjoy the other games. Put more time than I wanted to admit into 4 and NV but 3 will always be the best.
I wanted to fall in love 4 like I did with 3 and NV but I just couldn't. I still enjoyed the hell out of it but I don't look back it fondly like 3 and NV
@@MrHammers Fallout 4 is like meeting a new girl who looks exactly like an ex but can't compare
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I made a post on reddit on how much I loved this game, and to see a video that perfectly sums up my experince of it.
It just makes me so happy.
As a classic fallout fan I liked it I think new Vegas just overshadowed it with the story telling actual ironsights and better modding scene of new vegas sure I like new Vegas more but fallout 3 is still fun
back when the games came out, most people actually preferred fallout 3 to new vegas. they found the new vegas world bleak and it was annoying how you couldn't join a single faction in the entire game. there's a certain point in history that a very vocal minority began to over glorify new vegas
@@zekun4741 I remember when it first came out the biggest talking point was its technical issues, For me the 2 things that bugged me about it was the fact that it had no post ending gameplay (though that was due to time restraints so I can understand) and the Legion with its Roman aesthetic, I just found them to be a bit of a downgrade to the power armour wearing Enclave, the whole army with ragged/ancient looking attire just didn't really appeal to me
@@zekun4741 that’s because fallout 3 world building is terrible.
I love new Vegas, but it just didn’t give me that same sense of dread that the capital wasteland offered. In fo3 I could get lost in the world, but there some things about new Vegas that kind of were immersion breaking and ruined the atmosphere.
@@christopherjohnson9167 I get you as a classic fallout fan because
The dread of fallout 1 got lost in 2 but fallout 2 is still my favorite classic fallout and new Vegas is still my favorite
I absolutely love FO3 and wish there were more vids singing praises for it. It was my first fallout and there is so much I love about it from Charon my precious 7ft gift to the wasteland to the amazing and interesting quests you find from just stumbling around! I would love if you'd do a more in depth look vid even if it is just on one of the best fallout dlcs. FNV is my favorite fallout but 3 was my first and there really is nothing like experiencing this world for the first time
Fallout 3 is also my favorite Fallout game.. its because of the story, the voice acting and the land itself. You can explore DC and not get bored at all bravo 👏
I hear what you’re saying about “echo chambers” creating artificial dissonance, and something good gets trammeled. I feel this strongly, as I love Fallout 4 and Dark Souls 2, and I blame it on fanboys who elevate a particular game onto a pedestal, and demonize other games in the same series.
I used that vending machine in front of the super duper mart to hoard everything I found until I completed a mission that gave me a room. Ahh good times.
This game made my childhood, and it taught me some good life lessons that I needed at the time.
Fallout 3 was my first fallout game, I loved playing and will still go back to it but to me its not as good as New Vegas, which I do consider a good thing since New Vegas was a sort of sequel to 3 and New Vegas did improve on alot of 3, which to me a sequel should always do
I never really got all the Fallout 3 hate aswell
Fallout 3 is as good as Fallout NV fans are toxic. Truly a classic.
If you ever felt like NewVegas felt lackluster compared to 3, thats because NV is a spin off fallout title, it wasnt even made by bethesda studios but rather a much smaller and limitied studio.
Even as a big New Vegas guy, it's nice to see some love given to Fallout 3 for all the things it excels in. And this video actually does a good job at communicating the impact and wonder the game leaves you with/draws you in with. Despite the backlash it was receiving for a good while, it remains a classic that injected life back into the series.
exactly my thoughts too im glad he made this video
Excellations:
>Post Apocalyptic survive or die in a world of pain
>Great DLCs, as good as new vegas based in their own right but more loosely connected, short but sweet. (Excluding zeta)
>You can go anywhere you want at the start of the game
>World building not as good as new vegas but still rewarding to explore the world more so than fallout 4 imo
>successfully integrated VATS in a 3D shooter (not easy to accomplish)
>they didn't shit all over the lore yet with retconns and even though the west was developing they still tried their absolute damndest to explain why the east coast was in such a state so the OG fallout 1 and 2 fans got to get drawn in and experience the post apocalypse in 3D
@@thepaleone6960 same
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countering your counters.
-"everything is easy from moment 1"
depends on difficulty and how good you are at fps games and the like in general. i struggled first time around, but once i got the hang of it i barely had to use VATS even. i am absolutely certain most people feel that way.
-Operation Anchorage was great as it gave a look into pre-war american mentality, how the war on the ground would have gone down, the technological differences between the chinese and the americans and the role of heavy armored infantry in the war. It also gave you some cool gear.
Point Lookout also delved into aspects of pre-war america, primarily with its prison camps and with the questline about the chinese spy. It also had some fun hallucination bits that did actually pertain to the player character and their experiences. It also went deeper into the widely enjoyed Dunwich mythos that fallout 3 and onwards has steadily built on.
Mothership Zeta and the Pitt were however very "meh", that i will agree on. Broken steel i wont even acknowledge, as that was a blatant attempt by Bethesda to force players to buy DLC just to get a proper ending.
-plenty of open world games that absolutely fail at the open world part. Just look at Ubisoft's most recent entries into the open world category. Fallout 3 had memorable locales and did reward exploration with easter eggs, settlements, quests and loot. Whilst not something that should be lauded as revolutionary, being successful at providing fun is good enough on its own.
-Why arent you people complaining about the lack of talking Deathclaws? Lets face it. Fallout 3 and onwards might as well be a different timeline all things considered. But to say that Bethesda hasnt injected anything interesting into the franchise would be a blatant fucking lie. Otherwise you wouldnt have Obsidian jump on the chance to make fallout new vegas using the same engine and even have some of the plot points and shit.
There is a reason why New vegas blows outer worlds out of the water.
-"why does it look like the bombs just fell after 200 years"
Because DC is a battleground between several warring factions fighting over buried government secrets, weapons and technologies. there is also the theory that the nukes used on DC were radioactive rather than explosive nukes, used specificly to induce long term harm.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 Countering your countering counters:
- The game rewards you with a 1hko weapon for simply following the main quest. Of course you can find difficulties in certain areas, but let's be honest, it's not too difficult and there is not a lot of variance. New Vegas went beyond just Energy weapons and Ballistic, adding armoured targets and the ability to use different types of ammo for added effects.
- Operation anchorage? You mean the on rails simulation that serves as limited world building? It was mediocre, giving good rewards for not a lot of effort. Point lookout was decent, had a different atmosphere, I'll give you that. Broken Steel fixed the game's crap ending and should have been included with the base game. It was a sloppy fix to something that shouldn't have been broken. The Pitt? Actually had some decent world-building in the use of Troggs and a moral choice, only to fall flat on the escaped slaves who literally want you to steal a child with no long term reason to do so.
- Open world? Sure it is. Is it meaningful and does it help to establish a believable setting? Not really. The only two factions making any effort to branch outside of their own little hovels are the Brotherhood of Steel (who were completely butchered in their pre-established lore), and the Enclave (who are cartoon villains with no sympathetic through line). The world may be open immediately, but who cares how wide the ocean is if it has the depth of a paddling pool. What interesting locales are there really in Fallout 3? I struggle to think of any that could match those seen in the Mojave. Does anything beat the spectacle of Helios One? How about the Strip (even though it was still fairly barren)? What about Novac and Hidden Valley? The world felt alive, and not dwelling on the great war as if it happened yesterday.
- The world is contradictory, how are these people eating? Do they eat wild-life or vegetation? Where is the vegetation to feed the livestock and the people? New Vegas believably showed farmsteads and the sustainability of the world. 200 years and there being no progress? I mean, it's been less than 100 years since the Blitz, Hiroshima and Dresden, yet all of these places have been restored almost completely. 200 years is more than 6 generations of people, and you're telling me all of them were happy squatting in the bombed out remains? Again, compare this to New Vegas, where communities form in the shell of the old world, but still build upon it. The NCR? Slowly reconquering America. House? He's using his money and business sense to reform the barbarous tribes of New Vegas, and if the ending cards are to be believed, he prospers. The Legion? While regressive, they have a unifying culture under Pax Romana. Fallout 3 should have been set far closer to the bombs dropping to make sense.
- The best thing Fallout 3 did was to breath life into the franchise once again, and I don't hate Fallout 3. It was my first game from the series, but just because I have nostalgia for it does not mean it is not flawed. It's was outclassed by New Vegas and it's predecessors. Bethesda did a great job making the game feel modern and helping it to meet up the the contemporary gamers mindset, but it did this at the expense of retconning core aspects from the original series. It's a 6/10 game which people have fond memories of, that's the extent of it.
Certainly Fallout 3 is the one that is my favourite, also my introduction into the Fallout universe. I'll never forget exiting the Vault that first time and just having my mind blown when the Capital Wasteland was laid out before me, mind was blown. I've been in love with the fallout franchise ever since.
Great video mate.
It's such a monumental moment. Thanks so much!
Same here. One of the most amazing post apocalyptic world's ever.
I’m pretty sure fo3 was the introduction to the series for probably 80% of fallout fans
Bro ONG , the first time you leave the vault bro
I cant objectively explain how F3 is better, but I just know they type of guy whos into F3 and the type of guy whos into NV and I dont rock with the NV clowns.
Fallout 3's atmosphere is pure awesomeness!
Yeah!
i 100% agree, it feels foreboding. and i know this is unpopular but i love the metro system, how fun would 3 be if you could simply walk the whole streets of dc, navigating the metro system the first time was kinda scary. opening a door and hearing a ghoul somewhere in the halls scream, like shivers down your spine.
Definitely underrated bc it annoyed people, like Dead Money. @@demonpride1975
And 1,2 and New Vegas wasnt ?
@@chrisandreas3142and this is relevant how?
Fallout 3 was an unbelievable experience when it was released
Yeah, unbelievably bad and broken.
I'm gonna stop you right there. There was no new Vegas at the time, nor the shitpiles that are fallout 76 and 4. Fallout 3 is Legendary. LEGENDARY. Bugs and the desolation of the Capital wasteland are what made it what it is.
@@WingsChairThey ain’t even bad just different
@@dongvermine NV was worse when it was released, which is hilarious since Obsidian didn't need to make the game engine OR the assets.
@@antonytomas1 wrong entirely
One of my favorite moments in FO3, was in a total random exploration, when you go through a subway, and emerge in a large industrial courtyard, where you find a factory with pre-war chinese Ghouls, from the Great War that did all the shit in the plot. Eventually, you discover the reason why they are stationed there, and it's really cool. This moment is always with me, and everytime someone mentions FO3, i remember this.
There's so many little moments that catch you off guard and make an impact in the game. Everything BUT the main plot really 🤣. I love that everyone has a unique story like this on the capital Wasteland
@@MrHammers Yoo, you are right. The main plot is just... well, everytime i play FO3, i just ignore it until i want just to start Broken Steel. Bethesda writing for both FO3 and FO4 main plots, its just garbage.
@@SolidusGriloShow it's really not garbage at all to say that's way too far fetched.
@@jefferyflood it's not. they are utter garbage. nobody except of a hand full of weirdos cares for the story in 3 or 4.
Indeed. FO3 had a super realistic plot lmfao. Fallout 4 was basically Blade Runner the videogame. Not as realistic butttttt still somewhat fascinating
how dare you enjoy a video game
the side quests in this game are so good
The bee's knees
@@MrHammersthe dogs' hogs
FO3 is also my favorite. It’s bleak scary gloomy and give me a sense of doom unlike the other games. Locations side quests and random events flow perfectly. I can never put this game down. If it had FO4 shooting clothing and weapons mods, and took the melee combat factions and grand locations from FNV, it would be a perfect game
so this game has very little in terms of good stuff and will need a mountain of content to be considered a 'Perfect' game in your eyes?
Fallout 4 had terrible gunplay though, bullets wouldn't even register at a certain distance let alone you fired sponges at your enemy
@@DownsquadMost games need a mountain of content to become perfect.
But, most games also aren't good enough to create controversy that leads to our discussion
@@timarmesto2685 What I meant was that the game needs a lot to be considered perfect s it is not close, sorry for confusion
@@Downsquad Yeah. I understood what you meant.
The entirety of the fallout franchise is so bizarre but fascinating with how every installment ends up being different to one another yet enjoyable in their own ways
I want to replay Fallout 3 just for Point Lookout alone. Was an absolutely amazing DLC.
Having not yet gotten to any of the DLCs, I'm planning to do three others first and saving that one to be the last thing before Broken Steel, because all of the others interest me so much more. Anchorage is beautiful and blue after an entire game of uninterrupted gray and brown, Mothership Zeta is gonzo insanity in space, and the Pitt is a genuine moral dilemma where freeing slaves is arguably the wrong choice, but there isn't really a right one. Compared to all that, brain surgery in a pseudo-bayou just doesn't excite me as a concept, so I intend to do only a little of that before unleashing Liberty Prime and leveling my main to 30.
@@quicksilvertongue3248 Alright.
If it wasn't the only one with a regular open world then no one would have this opinion.
@@nathanlevesque7812 I do not understand your comment, can you explain exactly what you mean?
@@quicksilvertongue3248Broken Steel maps are linear. Mothership Zeta, Operation Anchorage, and most of the Pitt are linear. You can't just walk around in every direction there but you can in Point Lookout, and that's really all it has going for it.
New Vegas fanboys are the loudest, but 3 still sold more.
Not only are they the loudest, they also smell the worst 🤮
NV is a much more ironed out experience where your guns don’t brake after each gunfight and your automatic weapons actually hit your target BUT i don’t understand the war between the fandom really lol i love both games! fallout 3 absolutely kills it with the “everything sucks and is blown up, trees can’t grow because the soil is polluted” vibe and i love it! it’s a shame that now a days the apocalypse is just over grown bushes taking over everything because i really enjoy the bleak ass fallout 3 setting! i hope we go back to that. but after fallout 4 and 76 i have a feeling Fallout 5 will have even less gray dirt and rocks ):
What kind of argument is that? Lol. Numbers sold doesn't make a game better.
Skyrim sold more than oblivion but it was incredibly dumbed downed and shallow
As much as i see people complain about new vegas fans, its usually the people who mindlessly love 3 and/or 4 that seem the most toxic. Idk about forums, but its definitely the case for youtube comment sections. Especially since the fallout show came out.
Fallout 3 is absolutely my favorite game of all time. I started playing about a year ago. But the world felt so amazing! I began making my own wasteland stories. And explored every location in Fallout 3. I have nearly 400 hours in the game now, and I wish I would have played this game more when I was younger instead of being too afraid to leave Megaton. At this point I have my own fan story that I am writing. A few people have read it and loved the themes, places, and characters. All of which were inspired by this game!
Where are you going to post it? I would certainly love to read it!
You nailed it with this one. Over the years my love for Fallout 3 has been mixed, until I realized a lot of the reason why I was second guessing myself was just going down a rabbit hole of Fallout 3 hate videos. The Capital Wasteland by far was the best from the series to explore, I'll never forget those first steps out of vault 101. Then going to actual DC in game. It blew my mind, great video for a great game!
Yeah there are plenty of hate videos out there and I don't really get it, it's a great game, and the capital wasteland alone was worth loving the game. Thanks dude
@@MrHammers 3 is a great game. My favorite is nv because the narrative to me is better and I love the dlcs and how connected they are to the main story and each other. OWB is my favorite dlc of any game I have ever played
I really don't get the Fallout 3 hate. I guess it was an easy way to get views.
When NV came out, I’ll never forget the feeling of disappointment (specifically because of the map and factions) especially when I got to NV to find it nothing like the ruins of DC.
@@JAK-oi2wu the factions in nv are leagues better than fallout 3. The atmosphere is different though I’ll agree there
i loved the constant sidetracking. you dont just move form a to b in fallout 3. your journey is the chinese alphabet yodelled backwards. every time i set out into the capital wasteland its not for the main quest, but for my own purpose.
You enjoy fallout 3!??? NOOOO YOU CANT ENJOY THE GAMES YOU ENJOY IT DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT PLAY NEW VEGAS ITS BETTER IN EVERYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /s
Man, no one says you can't enjoy it. Enjoy it, but facts are facts.
Okay 😔. Haha that's pretty much what is like online though
Fallout 3 had the best immersion for sure. I loved the "prologue" of being a vault dweller and living that life. Fallout 4's intro felt rushed and unimportant. Even New Vegas' intro is kind of "meh."
Probably controversial, I literally can not go back to playing fallout 3 after playing New Vegas, being able to Aim down sights, the ability to mod my weapons with suppressors, sights etc, and going back to fallout 3 after having all that feels absolutely horrible when it's torn away from me, that's why I use Tale of 2 wastelands so I can actually have that stuff
I can't either, plus the new weapons and their variants and different ammo types, the faction armours, and the new companion system, along with a more highly replayable story opposed to Fallout 3's linear story, and you got yourself a big improvement.
@@ncrveteranranger4454New Vegas is a proper RPG while Fallout 3 is a badly written subpar looter shooter. Its that simple.
@@DJWeapon8 yep
i’ve always loved how you were able to skip huge portions of the game by just simply knowing where to go and who to talk to. made subsequent playthroughs a breeze
finally someone who understands me
You're making me want to replay Fallout 3. I haven't played it in probably 10 years or more.
Before this video I hadn't played it several years, I had a blast hopping back in it
Same
Try the first two.
Fallout 3 on itself is an okay looter shooter. But it is not on itself. It is a game in a legendary RPG series. A series, which contains Fallout 1, 2 and NV, the legends in the RPG genre. So, if you want an atmospheric looter shooter, then yeah, Fallout 3 is indeed the best in the franchise, and one of the better games in the genre. But as an RPG? It is worthless trash.
I will tell you this, people nowadays especially the fallout fans are starting to accept Fallout 3 as the only fallout game that Bethesda did right, while even me i prefer New Vegas my second favourite fallout is fallout 3, of course leta not forget about fallout 2 and Fallout 1, the old gems of the past, the newer instalments are trash and its unbelievable that the same company that made 3 made those atrocious fallout games but if you see their old video about making fallout 3 you can understand why this game did so good, there was love for the gamers and gaming in general back then and not for our money, bless you Adam Adamovic and rest in peace, that guy created the best art that someone could make in a fallout and even an Elder Scrolls game.
FO4 isn’t a bad game. It doesn’t do what rpg nerds want but it’s not a bad game. Doesn’t scratch everyone itch and that’s fine, but to say they’re trash is just no. 76 though yes was hot trash. It’s meh now.
@@Nopers_ I don't think anyone is claiming it's a bad game. I think it's more that fans see it as a bad Fallout game because it lacks a certain depth that we've been accustomed to through the previous entries. I pre-ordered the pipboy edition and played the absolute shit out of it in its first years, but I can't replay it. Even after putting 300+ hours in one playthrough, doing every single quest, finding every secret, I just can't get into it again god knows I've tried. There's just something that was present in the previous games that I didn't get in FO4, I can't say exactly what it is but it's absolutely a different type of Fallout game
I play SimSettlements 2, which overhauls FO4 into the empire-builder it was supposed to be. FO4 had a lot of great ideas that were never finished, it tried to do too much at once and gave us only a taste of awesome and always left us wanting more, simply because it was IMPOSSIBLE to give us everything. E.g., Silver Shroud costume? Hell yeah! I just get to ham it up as a superhero for the entire quest, and by the end, I actually feel like a superhero! But then, that's it. Barring maybe one or two scenes from the DLC, nothing else, I can't continue hamming up the whole world as the Shroud.
disagree. fallout 4 is a much better game and even a much better fallout game than 3. it's still a bad fallout game, don't get me wrong, but in comparison to 3... new vegas is the only real 3d fallout game to this day. 4 is a decent game, but a bad fallout game. 3 is just trash.
When I first played Fallout 3 I legitimately read most of the terminal’s, I treated it like every terminal had a secret. I really enjoyed being thrown into o a kinda vague world, learning it’s secrets were fun and some of the personal logs are just hilarious.
Same! I listened to every voice log, read all the terminals, I was obsessed with the game when it came out
I agree with the sentiment, but the story and how you interact with it is so horrid. Fallout is so much more than "atmosphere". It's about philosophically challenging situations, choosing allies, and making the narrative your own personal playground.
I have a feeling that 3 being my intro is what helped show me that 1 is my absolute favorite in the entire series. 3 and 1 share the atmosphere that I love. It’s lonely and depressing, but still a bit hopeful. 3 and NV are hard tied in my list as #2 because those games compliment one another perfectly. Where 3 fails, New Vegas takes strides, and where New Vegas fails, 3 picks up the slack and runs with it. It’s nice to see someone who likes 3 and isn’t trying to at the same time pander to the incredibly loud undercurrent of NV fans willing to strap you to a phone pole for disagreeing with them.
I've just recently finished Fallout 1 for the first time (I had played it sporadically before) and I absolutely agree on the atmosphere, Fallout 3 is the one that most closely captures that feel.
Be careful mate. Somebody might make a 6 hour long critique on why your opinion is objectively wrong.
We shall see! Haha
LMAO like they did with A Many True Nerd's video XD.
If they can do that, it is not an opinion. 🤷♂
@@worldhello1234 I guess someone don't know what an opinion is.
I personally like new vegas more but I dont get people that literally shit over fallout 3 while still praising new vegas.
They are way too similar to completely hate one while loving the other one.
I prefer the kinda straight forward story of fallout 3 but the world is a bit more interesting in new vegas (especially when you include the factions into the mix).
great video :)
The factions were so well written and implemented in NV, probably my favorite aspect of the game. I love both games, it's the just the world of F3 that is better to me personally. Thank you dude!
Fallout 3 has that STALKER atmosphere, where the world feels desolate and dangerous, especially the DC ruins. Gives me retro-futuristic American Pripyat vibes. You also start relatively in the center of the map and can just go wherever you want. I like to start new characters with nothing on them and just pick a direction and try to survive the capital wasteland. The whole map is made accessible and this combined with the many intricate side quests makes for an interesting play through every time. There’s also random encounters throughout the capital wasteland which I don’t think New Vegas had. It’s so weird how much hate fallout 3 got I never understood it. I’ve played hundreds of video games and fallout 3 is definitely in my top 10 most enjoyed. New Vegas is fun too, but nothing beats a good walk in the capital wasteland
Stalker is a great comparison for sure! Both games have dangers and an unsettling vibe the whole time you're exploring. Capital wasteland truly is the GOAT
I will give FO3 the respect it deserves. Bethesda bought a minor franchise and brought it into 3D, and did a decent job of it. Was it perfect? Of course not. But was it fun?
It's not a fallout game nothing by Bethesda can be qualified as a Fallout game I view them as a standalone thing because otherwise I have to view them as another example of big gaming industries snuffing out any kind of legitimate creativity and turning what was a good series into a husk while practically carpet bombing series consistency but I digress your allowed to have your opinion
My favorite moment in fallout 3 was finding that town/neighborhood full of cannibals and just knowing something was off about them, and uncovering the dark truth about them with a little bit of snooping, that was actually something else my first time through. That and the whole fire ant situation lol
Andale! Yeah that is one of the best side stories going on.
One of my favorites, too. Something about Fallout 3 that I absolutely loved was all of the bizarre "what the hell" moments, where something humorously weird was happening and you were struggling to understand it, like the Leave-it-to-Beaver VR simulation, or tripping balls in Point Lookout. It feels much more gimmicky in New Vegas with the Wild Wasteland perk, like finding two charred skeletons named Owen and Beru, or a fedora clad corpse in a refrigerator as an obvious nod to Indiana Jones. Those things aren't strange or interesting, they're just movie references.
Nothing in all the fallout game titles has ever thoroughly creeped me out more than the Gary vault.
Going into the Gary vault blind was terrifying. I had no idea wtf was happening
@@MrHammers oh dude in another vault there is one man with crates of puppets and that's it. AND from the lore that's said he went so insane the 1st person that came exploring he scared them off with mental instability. Good thing they didn't put that vault in the game that would have made the gary clone vault look like a cakewalk. But I would say if your creeped out by the gary vault. Wait till fallout New Vegas with the all plant mutated people vault. Very creepy and they come from everywhere and hide very well.
I started the franchise with Fallout New Vegas and it is still for the right reasons, my favorite out of them all. I only got the chance to play Fallout 3 as late as last year, but it instantly became my second favorite in the series and even beats New Vegas in some aspects, for example... the map, Capital Wasteland.
Refreshing take
The thing about Fallout 3, that, for me, elevated it above the others, was the combo of explore and atmosphere. I NEVER had a moment in 3, where I entered a new area and went 'meh, another slog'. I was always having that 'what's over the next hill?' feeling, and there almost always WAS something of some interest over that next hill, even if it was only a destroyed house with a mailbox that exploded when I walked up to loot it.
Thank you or doing a video about it that DIDN'T rely on bashing the other entries.
Fallout 3 was, much like Oblivion, PEAK BETHESDA.
Before they started using the same layout for every dungeon, when the 'sameyness' of locations was down to them being locations that made sense to be similar in formula, as opposed to feeling like it was laziness on Bethesda's end, and back when the side-quests were almost universally interesting and unique, rather than feeling meh the way they tend to in Skyrim and FO4. But also after the ugly jank of Daggerfall and Morrowind.
New vegas was a different sort of game, and it's big 'problem' for me, was that it felt too empty. It felt like there just wasn't as much incentive to wander off the beaten path, and it had lost the 'wildness' that 3 had.
I went back and re-played Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, FO3, FNV, FO4, and Skyrim, in that order during the long dark that was covid lockdowns. I had initially thought it was a rose-tint, with regards to my views on Oblivion and FO3, but actually replaying them, proved that to be wrong. They just feel RIGHT in a way the other entries don't. They have their problems, but none of them jarring enough to make me want to give up or go off for mods to 'fix' it.
On a side note, getting Oblivion and FO3 working stably on a modern win10 system is a good way to waste a few evenings troubleshooting weird crashes.
How does New Vegas, a game with more locations, more quests and more factions feel emptier than Fallout 3?
@@SpartanMJO12 Because the actual environment does not feel as populated. Because far more of FNV's locations have no reason to visit, and lack even interesting presentation. More quests and factions don't mean much when they tend to be either less interesting in many cases (quests) or less present in the world (factions). The factions in NV feel like they don't exist anywhere but their own strongholds. Outside of them, you maybe run into a 3 man patrol once in a blue moon. This made sense in F3, where the main factions were explicitly low in number and stretched thin, not so in NV, where they are, lore-wise, supposed to be everpresent.
The exploration aspect of Fallout 3 is a LOT stronger because of both density and the fact that pretty much every building you can explore DOES have some form of interesting to it, some form of 'story' to the location that brings it a reason to exist. FNV? Not so much. FNV has one or two dense interesting areas, the occasional standalone interesting area, and a bunch of rather empty space, dotted with random uninteresting caves and shacks.
@@jtnachos16 you put into words my thoughts wxactly
Yeah, exploration is one of the few things NV does really poorly. But I’d be willing to bet that was in-part due to both the 18 month development time as well as just the setting. I’ve been replaying both 3 and NV recently and while I’ve absolutely been loving both of them, it’s kind of a slog exploring places in NV, in NV the only places that I actually like diving into are the abandoned vaults, outside of that it’s just kinda meh. 3 does it leaps and bounds better.
@@Sev3617 disagree. 3 had a bunch of buildings, but 90% of them were meaningless boring dungeons with enemies and loot. in nv, 90% of the locations have a quest tied to it.
Fallout 3 was my first Fallout, and I'll always love it. I don't know why Fallout fans have to be so annoying about how good New Vegas is and shit on the rest of the series. I love New Vegas too, but the New Vegas super fans are so annoying.
Fall Out new Vegas forever
For a long time, I felt like an outlier for preferring FO3 over FNV. I loved both, but FO3 edged out the other by having the elements I appreciate, atmosphere and exploration. But online, this was the “wrong” opinion. I finally felt more confident in voicing my preference after watching Many A True Nerd’s “Fallout 3 is Better Than You Think.” Which did a pretty good job of articulating the things I enjoyed about the game.
Here’s a hot take for you. FO4 is my (current) favorite in the series. I’m more inclined towards mechanics than story, and I just find 4 to be the most fun to play. The exploration is pretty good, too, Boston is an achievement in map design. It could use a few more mini stories tucked away in the corners, but I’m overall happy to hop around the Cmmonwealth, trying new character builds.
I liked Fallout 4 a lot, but the dialogue options killed it for me tbh. I did love the Commonwealth a whole lot though
Me too and I started playing FNV first, I was not feeling it when I was younger (Or because of the Cazadors I met after getting out of the Doc's place LMAO) Some of my friends keep pushing me to play NV, tried again there was something about the environment I just didn't like. Might try again in the future. Then I tried Fallout 3...LOVED IT yeah the main story was not that great but I do think that was the point because the atmosphere and exploration were what the game was trying to push (I think). Seeing how a big city and capital looked after the war was a plus.
@@RikaRieGaming bethesda stopped caring about story after oblivion, and that is the main reason why fallout 4 and skyrim have such poor writing and basically no choices in quests. fallout 3 had some weird choices in the main story and some actually interesting choices in the sidequests, but it already showed they don't care anymore because "doesn't matter how good your story is, the players will shit on it anyways". yeah... no. some players, maybe, but not the majority. start caring about stories again and your games might become enjoyable without mods, like new vegas.
Nooo! New Vegas is the best (Fallout) game ever, you can't say something bad about it and something good about Fallout 3, 4 or 76! You are not a true Fallout-Fan! Ohhh if Bethesda hasn't bought the franchise , we would've never got bad Fallout games r-right? Only good games, like Fallout Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel. Interplay/Obsidian know what they were doing with the franchise! And all the concept arts and ideas for Van Buren. Yeah, that all would've been it that game! Deadlines and Technical Difficulties? Noo that wouldn't happen. Just look at the the mediocre Wasteland 2 and 3 games that we TRUE-Fallout (New Vegas) Fans don't even play! It's better then every Bethesda-Fallout, exept New Vegas of course, that has nothing to do with Bethesda anyways...so who needs the Elder Scrolls Oblivion with Guns Gameplay...we have New Vegas and Bethesda has nothing to do with that game! W-wait nevermind...ohh um. B-but what if Elon Musk buys the Fallout Franchise? EVERYTHING would've become great, if Chris Avellone would work on it for FREE! So cool, yeah.
It’s still fallout 3 > New Vegas
It's amazing how spot on this impression is
@@capin8067 So much so in fact, that I was genuinely fooled for the first couple of sentences that it was really one of *those* types of people Hahah.
But yeah, it's pretty crazy how bad some of the echo-chambers are in the Fallout community (Or gaming communities in general tbh.)
"I just don't give a fuck." My man.
If you enjoy a game, no matter how objectively busted or flawed it might be, keep on enjoying it. Randos online aren't going to make a game any better or worse, because unless it's the second coming of christ, it's already a predetermined 0/10.
Yeah man, sometimes you just really dig a game for what it is despite it's short comings
@@MrHammers like how I feel for Cyberpunk 2077.
But why people wouldn't like or love Fallout 3? The game is so freakin' good.
Fallout 3 was one of the first games i've ever played on the og fat-ps3. I don't know if it's nostalgia or anything else but i like it much more than New Vegas for example
I played through the whole series, start to finish, over the last year (for the first time for every game). If I had to rank them - New Vegas > Fallout 1 > Fallout 3 > Fallout 2 > Fallout 4 - The BIG thing however is that the difference in quality (for me) between New Vegas and Fallout 4 was minimal. They all felt like they failed in areas others succeeded or succeeded in areas the others failed. What I took away from the hundreds of hours invested was - I really, really, really want a Fallout 5 that combines the best elements of all the previous entries. I also started on Outer Worlds right after finishing this run of games, and you could feel the big hole in the centre - the world maps just weren't as interesting. It felt like the same locations copy/pasted. Even though the principle gameplay ideas were the same.
I felt the same way about Outer Worlds, I really wanted to love that game and completely agree. Also I agree with the statement that each fallout is marginally in line with the others and each excel at certain things where others don't, very well said!
Ah, it you forgot the most important game to understand why F5 will be bad:
F76
@@FumblsTheSniper that doesn’t make sense. They can make a good fallout even with that game and it’s actually not as bad now as it was
@@samjohnson1992 just go melt more crayons in your easy bake oven, I care even less that you like to be spit on less over time.
@@FumblsTheSniper jeez Bro why all fallout nv fanboys are all toxic?
People didn't set the bar too high with CP2077, CDPR's marketing did.
That's a fair statement, but I still feel people were never going to be happy with cyberpunk no matter what. Too much hype for too long
I never gave a damn about Cyberpunk until it got released and was very pleasantly surprised. Story was top notch for me at least, best game I've played in years.
@@grov508 Wow, good for you then my friend! I also went in with basically no expectations and I still felt disappointed. Didn't care for the story or characters at all.
@@GalahadTheSeeker sorry you feel that way :(
@@grov508 So am I, believe me.
While I love NV and F3, the NV community is for the most part insufferable.
Agreed
Burn the witch! Nah, I too love Fallout 3 and got into the series through this little gem...What stood out for me the most was the feeling of helplessness and imminent danger once I first stepped out of the vault to see a barren wasteland. Now that was something no other game in the series could since give me.
Fallout 3 was like the best game ever I wish we could get something that even comes close to the vibe fallout 3 gave just such an awesome story line and you just felt cool walking around the wasteland 😂
There are some great games with amazing atmosphere but the capital wasteland is just untouchable
Agreed, if you look at the backstory it doesn't make too much sense for it to look that way, but it's not something that broke it for me
ok i love this game too but the story is horrible, F3 only true weak point
@@Badookum why do you believe the story is bad, i find very good actually and i find it believable that the Wasteland is such chaos
@@MutantCyborg001 because your father kills himself for no reason. because u have almost no choices, and if you have, they are just "be the ultimate bad guy" or "be the ultimate good guy". because it's short af. just a few examples.
Fallout 3 is easily my favorite Fallout, and one of my favorite games of all time. I’ve beat this game atleast 3-4 times and I find myself on a 5th playthrough currently. The atmosphere is just so beautiful and fitting. I’ve always been made fun of for my love of Fallout 3 so I’m glad to see someone else love it so much too
You shouldn't have been, it's a special game for sure, same with new vegas
Just started playing again, other than mafia 2 this is my favorite game..just super eerie
I cannot say Fallout 3 is my favourite Fallout game because this is the only one I've played.
However, I can confidently say that Fallout 3 is one of my favourite games of all time, and one of the best games I've ever played, period.
Moreover, it's a game that ruined open world gaming for me. Ever since I've played this game for the first time 8 years ago, this has been my standard to judge open world gaming. Elden Ring is the first game ever since Fallout 3 to truly impress me with its world.
Fallout 3's world naturally makes you want to explore. It's such a believable world. There's so much environmental storytelling, it's amazing.
I don't play FPS games. Not only do I lack the skill, but I simply has no interest in the genre. Fallout 3 is the exception. Not gonna lie, access to the VATS system is what allows me to enjoy the game, but you have to give credit to game because VATS is entirely optional. If you have the skill, ignore it. If you suck like me, you can play the game just fine.
The characters are fun, the story is serious when it needs to, yet full of fun moments and satire. The sidequests are fantastic. Discovering the other vaults and what happened on them is terrifying and awesome at the same time.
Character customisation is varied, and it caters to different playstyles and preferences. You can play this game 3 times and have a different experience on each. Not to mention, all the DLC content is awesome!!
I have nothing but praise for this game. Watching this video and writing about it got me excited to go, turn on my PS3 and play it again. And you know what? I think I might just do that!
Was actually interesting to see this since just rewatched a few other f3 retrospectives.
F3 and fnv are distinct in my mind. New vegas is the story of the growth of the ncr and the question of the four government styles (house's autocracy, yes man's quasianarchy, Caesars dictatorship, and ncrs corrupt democracy). Fallout 3 is more raw survival and has a lot more connection to the actual prewar and war events. Settlements are disconnected, surface water is contaminated, etc. Being a new publisher of the ip I think Bethesda tried to use too much of the prior factions to bridge f2 to f3 while making something distinct as opposed to a direct successor to f2 as new vegas did since there was no way they wouldn't get burned by fans. Sadly they didn't make it obvious why you didn't have the magitech that let the west recover as it did so you have the "why isn't there civilization after 200 yrs" issues.
It's story didn't branch as much, basically good or bad karma and companions were skyrim levels of characterization as well as a lot of story options that were ignored low fruit but it felt like there was an apocalypse rather than new vegas' choose who runs vegas alternate universe political thriller.
Let's be honest, everyone loved Fallout 3 when it got released. There are many videos on RUclips about how it sucks in many aspects, which are mostly true, but when we got this game in the 2000's it was like nothing else before. It also introduced me to the brilliant OG Fallout, and we've got New Vegas thanks to this game. This gem was truly full of content, and i think im never going to experience such an excitement like collecting Nuka-Cola Quantums, then craft them into Nuka Grenades, that had those beutiful explosions with that extreme damage output. There is something special about how this game was able to lead the player through the environments, crafting, combat, quests connecting them all into a unique adventure.
Perfectly put! Of course in retrospect we can nitpick this game, but there is a reason it's one of the highest rated games in the franchise
Could you give me a condence list of what sucks about it? Im planning on buying it. I dont have to much time so it will be my only fallout game ill go through.
@@zydian_ 3 shares many problems with other open world Bethesda games, some writing, exploration, characters, etc. Overall it's a good time, but ymmv
@@crono276 exploration is fun and rewarding and there are many interesting characters, madison li, Harold, your father the overseer of the simulation vault. Etc. writing has its moments at being Poor and cutting corners but for the most part it is fine with some absolute gem moments, Harold, point lookout the Pitt, etc.
i didn't. i got bored after 20 min of exploration. the only fun i had with 3 was modding the shit out of it to get rid of most of the flaws that destroy the game, like the enemy difficulty or the missing ads feature.but i couldn't change the story, so the game was still utter garbage and it is to this day.
I remember getting slammed on the Fallout Subreddit for saying Fallout 3 is my favorite Fallout game. Fallout 3 gets hailed as a bad game for having a mediocre main questline but so does nearly every Bethesda Softworks game, I don't see why it is so hated it's a better open world as far as exploration goes compared to New Vegas. New Vegas just took an entire game created a few new assets and made it better in some ways.
Agreed. New Vegas is definitely better but in it's own way. The plot is linear making the player go through the same path to New Vegas, which works really well for that game, but I like how Fallout 3 pushes the player to explore the capital wasteland and find shit to do. I hate when people say 3 has no world building because as you explore the wasteland, you become immerse in the DC ruins getting information from random npcs. Both games are great and people who act like 3 is somehow horrible because of a bland story and exclusion of a few NV features just havent played 3 enough.
It’s a shame Bethesda won’t remaster or remake fallout 3 and new Vegas. But they’ll re-release Skyrim a dozen more times
Its perfect as it is. Looks great in 4k.
I think fallout 3 is a lot better than new Vegas in the atmosphere and world aspect. The world feels so real and lived in
audio recorders are actually scary, and you feel for the people in this horrible place, not like fallout 4 where nobody are serious ever.
Fucking finaly someone else who loves Fallout 3.
same here i love the game to death but yah Fnv is objectively better as its well Fallout 3 but more but F3 holds its own very well as itself and get uneeded hate.
76 was shit at launch but it somehow did a No Mans Sky, F4.... dont get me started thats a whole different mess
Yo... I have always been a vehement proponent for Fallout 3. I was so deeply immersed that I felt possessed by the compulsion to travel all over the map to uncover histories and tragedies, all the while being afflicted by the dreary atmosphere. I never had an experience comparable to this in relation to other Fallout games (New Vegas and 4 for me)
I was like 10 when I picked up Fallout 3 at Movie Gallery with no idea what the game was, it just had cool pictures on the box. Little did I know it would be one of my favorite games of all time. As much as I love New Vegas and everything it added, there's something about the post-apocalyptic vibes of DC that feels like home to me.
The Pint Sized Slasher mission is still to this day one of my favorite missions in any game. It just has a very dary and sinister overtone throughout the entire thing. I absolutely love it.
New Vegas is a better game in literally every way, but I’m glad you made this video. Without FO3, New Vegas wouldn’t have happened.
The Washington Monument is still one of my favorite set pieces in a game. I just love everything about it.
Fallout 3 is the most based fallout
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Fallout 3 is pure atmosphere and nostalgia to me
RUclips ruined this game, the amount of videos saying that game is bad can easily manipulate people to make them hate things they initially like, it’s sad because this game genuinely one of the best games ever made and along with NV
because "Bethesda bad" I have problems with Bethesda but the people who say "Bethesda was always bad" are clearly still butt hurt over 76.
@@franks2796 But it was.
@@equalityforever302 🤓
@@franks2796 Most people agree. All Bethesda games suck.
@@equalityforever302 people agree so much that people have been begging for a remaster of fallout 3 for years
I was needing this video. There has been a lot of retrospective hate for Fallout 3 these last years. Which was very weird.
Besides IGN and a friend of mine who only liked FPSs, I never heard anyone shitting on F3 before. And I remember how many people were either underwhelmed or not too loving of New Vegas when it released. And some years ago they switched it, dunking hard F3 and loving unconditionally FNV. Why can't we love them both?
New Vegas has better writing and choices, and a more believable and diverse world, that represents more of matters we have in our own world. I love that. But Fallout 3 also is an experience, but one that is different. The Capital Wasteland feels like a ludic but drunk graveyard, of ghostly echoes. It feels rustic, broken, lost in memories, like a tv static that forgot what channel it was on. I remember the quests of F3 more too, they feel like a novella, a mystery. So I really like them for different reasons.
These are some of my favorite kinds of videos to see from emerging channels, they feel like checkpoints, content you had to make for yourself, not anyone else. This video was fantastic, i've beat every game in the Fallout series 10 plus times, it's insane to me how Fallout 3 and FNV can be so similar, so impactful, released so close together, and yet they feel worlds apart in tone and approach. F3 and FNV are 2 of my favorite games of all time and I find it hard to compare them, but im so glad this whole video centered on atmosphere, because while I do feel FNV is the peak of the fallout series, and the world it gives you the reigns to is second to none, fallout 3 does the best job of any game I've ever played of making you feel like this is Fallout's world, and youre just playing in it. It's a hard balance to strike because everyone wants to feel like a hero, but man Fallout 3 is special. Oasis, Tranquility Lane, Tenpenny Towers, some of the most immersive sidequests you'll ever find in a western rpg, but even when you're not chasing a quest, the world fallout 3 provides feels alive nonetheless. Really glad you made this video and so happy to see you're channel finding so much success, well deserved my dude! (also Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Valhalla are fuckin bangers, i think ubisoft still has some fight in em)
Well said my man! This really was a video I've wanted to do since starting the channel, it feels good getting it out there. You're right F03 and New Vegas are so close yet so drastically different, I'm glad to see in these comments people.love both for what they are, no reason to hate on the games. Thanks for the comment homie 🙏.
And, Ubisoft is trying Thier best at keeping assassin's Creed banging but I still think Far Cry 3 is the Pinnacle of thier catalog haha
After watching this video if started to play fallout 3 and it’s great
This was a GREAT video! I love how you explain all of Fallout 3's problems and then say, "I don't give a f" like after all of these years, we aren't all aware it has issues. I agree whole-heartledy. So many people point out what it does bad and never focus on what makes it special. Fallout 3 is next to my favorite game, with Final Fantasy series being somewhere in first. Even with all of it's issues, I completely don't care because I can get lost in the world of FO3 and lose myself for hours on end. The game feels like a love letter to Fallout series and I believe Bethesda did their absolute best when it came to this game. This was my first FO and without it, I would have never picked up FO1 and FO2, or even New Vegas. People can gripe all they want, but in a lot of ways (including myself), Oblivion was everyone's introduction into TES which is what got me to go back and play Morrowind, my #3 favorite game of all time and FO3 holds a special place in a lot of peoples hearts for the very same reason. I recently just finished a 100+ hour playthrough of FO3 on the Xbox 360 because I wanted to play it vanilla for once and loved every second of it. I maxed a character to 30 and finished each DLC, taking my time as I have done many, many, maaaany times before and I never once felt like I was getting bored, or retreading old ground. I even, like I always do, discovered many new things that I hadn't seen before and new locations I had never discovered. Can't wait for your DLC video, this one was awesome. :)
Thank you! Yeah it's not a perfect game but it does so many things so well that it deserves to be praised for what it accomplished. Same as you it also inspired me to play FO1 and FO2 as well as the sequels and play through all those great games. Glad you liked the video, appreciate it my dude
fallout 3 almost stopped me from playing nv. glad i did, otherwise i would think to this day that the entire franchise is garbage. i can even enjoy 4, but 3? hell nah. that game was just a shitshow.
You perfectly encapsulated a lot of what I’ve been thinking about for years. This was my intro to the series and I have never had a gaming experience quite like it. The dread this world made me feel mixed with a strange feeling of joy and wanderlust was unlike anything else. The wasteland survival guide was one of the coolest tutorial type quests that I’ve experienced, and really puts the player on the right course to understanding how to explore the world and how valuable it is to scope out every location. Also seeing Moira goulified after blowing up megaton was a pretty memorable experience. But O think my favourite element were just the random encounters, it truly felt like a living breathing world that had an element of randomness that most games don’t have but that the real world certainly does. This is one of my all time favourite games, so I really appreciate hearing praise for it that I think is well deserved.
I prefer 2 and New Vegas but 3 is pretty enjoyable
2???? Haha just kidding, I liked 2 a lot. My runner up would be a tie between 1 and New Vegas, but 3 just does it for me
Fall 3 is the best 1 hands down I loved fall out 3 .
Its really not the best "hands down"
@@GalahadTheSeeker it really is
@@djtoxicdhg New Vegas is better in every way except for the exploration, what are you on about?
@@GalahadTheSeeker new vagas is good just not as good as fallow 3
@@djtoxicdhg ok
I've easily have at least 1000 hours in all three version of Fallout 3 yes I've completed it 100% across PS3,Xbox 360 and PC where I still continually to play it with mods the Tales of two wastelands mod is amazing and worth replaying it again.
Damn that's impressive! No idea what my hours are at but I doubt it's close to 1000
i have like 2k in new vegas, 1k in 4 and 1 hour in 3 because it's trash. after 20 min of exploration i got bored because there was nothing interesting to see at all and then i started modding it, but even then i didn't like it. glad i picked up new vegas nontheless, otherwise i would still think the fallout franchise has no good games. now i played 1, 2, nv and 4 and can confidently say, 3 is by far the worst out of the entire franchise. people shit on the story of 4 and i agree, but it was still so much better than the story of 3. the atmo gets destroyed by poor world building, the buildings are 90% meaningless dungeons with enemies and some loot, the story is not even worth talking about and the rpg and shooter elements are poorly executed, so all in all the game is garbage. how can anyone like this? it deserves a solid 1 on metacritics. there is nothing good about the game. well, that's not true. there are some good quests. but to find them you have to explore the whole boring af map if you don't know where they are.
It's safe to say that if we did not have fallout 3, we would not have fallout new vegas.
Fallout 3 needs to be remade, Because it keeps crashing, and it needs actual mods to cure the crashing.
I appreciate the fact that you didn't defend the worst parts of the game or try to prop it up as something it's not. You just accentuated why I and many others love this game by focusing on what it gets right, the world and atmosphere. Mad props dude. As for a favorite side quest it's not technically a side quest but an unmarked one. The town of Andale was one of the most striking places I had found in Fallout 3 and one of my most memorable moments, finding that shack where they were butchering passersby and then having to make the call of orphaning cannibal children or just letting them go about their business was fantastic and really put more emphasis on the how bleak Fallout 3 really was.
Thank you man, glad you enjoyed it. I totally agree on Andale the first time I discovered that place I was spooked, the slow burn of uncovering the unsettling community was just fantastic
Could not explain or gather my thoghts on why I enjoyed Fallout 3 more than New Vegas. This is it, the atmosphere of fallout 3 is unmatched.
I love fallout 3 to death. It's my personal fav to go back and play. The world is both, big and empty, as well as full of stuff to do. I swear this game has more side quests and places to explore than new vegas does.
Any time I play new vegas I know where every side quest is, how to win in caravan, how to make my companions like me.
But for fallout 3, no matter when I play it there always seems to be stuff I never tried before or I'm shocked I forgot about. Searching mama dolces to find like 25 chinese soldiers, buying clover just to kill all the slavers and become a good guy again, helping the ghouls peacefully into the tower just for them to systematically kill all the humans proving they're just as evil and bigoted, the outcasts vs brotherhood arguments.
It's just so good, I wish I had the know how to remake fallout 3s environment in the fallout 4 enging
“I didn’t experience glitches” the game literally crashed every hour bro on new gen and pc… why lie 😂 meat rider
I love the game and didn't at the same time. I think the highs of this game are amazing like the atmosphere and the side quest but the lows are disapointing still it was my second fallout game and I don't think I can dislike it
I understand people that dislike the game for certain aspects they value more in gaming, like if you were a die hard fan of the classics and want that role play experience I can't see how 3 was a bummer. In a way I'm glad 3 was my first fallout because I had no idea what I was getting into and just got lost in the world building
@@MrHammers Die-hard fan of the classics, Fallout 3 strips away your role-playing options by giving you an almost completely uncontrollable backstory and giving you quests that typically only have one possible outcome. The other Fallouts (except for 4) leave your backstory almost completely ambiguous so that you can create who you want to play. Fallout 3 railroads you into being a nineteen year-old kid searching for your dad there is no alternative unless you mod the game or ignore the story. While the Wasteland itself is close to the one in Fallout it ignores the fact that the Wasteland was like that because it was only a few decades after the bombs fell and not the two hundred that Fallout 3 takes place in. By Fallout 2 sixty years after Fallout there were groups like the NCR who spread out across multiple cities across an almost entire state but in Fallout 3 forty years after Fallout 2 we see the East Coast in a state that seems frozen in the aftermath of the bombs, like the radiation somehow never dissipated or society never tried to rebuild outside of small settlements over the course of 200 Years.
Yeah, I understand on a role playing perspective it's very limited, I enjoyed the classic fallouts for the roleplaying a lot, but like I said that's not really what I played fallout 3, I'm not a big RPG guy to begin with.
And I agree 100% it's dumb and illogical that the world isn't rebuilt 200 years post war in F3, I did mention in that in the vid, but ignoring the lore and just seeing the capital wasteland for what it was was beautiful. Going into F3 the first time I didn't know the backstory or care about the time the bombs dropped, I just saw this wonderful post apocalyptic landscape and loved it.
I can totally empathize with people who loved the classics and were thrown off when F3 came out
@@MrHammers The only other thing I'll say is that while I agree Fallout 3 has great atmosphere in most places I feel like most of it suffers from extreme tonal whiplash, its extremely confusing due to them making a Wasteland styled off of Fallout but had an over exaggerated version of the goofiness of Fallout 2 which lead me to suffer tonal whiplash throughout the game.
In particular the divide between the raider camps, people dying of thirst and mutants with the quests like Sarah's Nuka Cola quest or The Wasteland Survival Guide. Though actually I forgot your point at the end of the video, Lonesome Road would hold that title not Point Lookout...
I disagree on that front completely, Fallout 2's goofiness is over blown and way more disconnected to the atmosphere and ruined my experience with that game.
There was rarely anything I'd say was 'too goofy' in fallout 3, if anything fallout new Vegas had more jokes and stuff in it than 3.
The girl who gave the Nuka cola quest and moira's wasteland survival guide were both quests that seemed tonally appropriate. People cling to things and curiosities that make them happy, especially in desolation and depressing settings. Moira was curious about dangers of the wasteland but too sheltered in megaton to do stuff on her own, and the Nuka cola girl was probably a little insane but obsessed with the glowing quantums she's seen a few times. Similar to the sasparilla blue stars in new Vegas. New Vegas has wackier stuff, look at come fly with me, Wang dang atomic tango, etc
As far as lonesome road goes, down I agree with you. That's an amazing dlc.
While Fallout 2 is my favorite FO game, and I do like NV more than 3, Fallout 3 feels like the most misrepresented FO. I will likely return to FO3 to complete it.
I get why it's not everyone's cup of tea, but ya got to atleast finish it! Lol
@@MrHammers lol yeah. I played fallout games for the first time recently. Technically I played Nv for like 20 hours over 2 years ago but that barely counts. When I decided to play FOs again, I went for like like 2 months straight, cracking roughly 200 hours total (that’s basically for NV, FO1, & FO2 ALONE) so I got burnt out when I tried starting 3 and 4. Gonna take a break and revisit it when I feel motivated.
I remember getting Fallout 3 for my birthday with my 360. It was the only game besides Minecraft I owned, and used to scare the shit out of me. Basically, this game is nostalgia and just a pure atmospheric masterpiece.
Lol it would be quite the experience being young enough to have this game scare you
Fallout 3 did a few things better than New Vegas. In my opinion the grittiness of 3 surpasses New Vegas by a long shot. The color palette of that game is so dark and depressing; it makes you feel like an apocalypse has emerged and the end is very fucking nigh. For instance all faction armors in that game are either black or gray or somewhere in between. To me that does not portray hope, only death and despair. Adding on to this there were many times in Fallout 3 I got so disturbed that I had to set my controller down and think about the shit I just witnessed. A few instances of this would be the basement shack in Andale, the Dunwich building and pretty much all of the Point Lookout DLC. Freaky shit seeing apparitions of Amata dead in in water... While New Vegas added things like wacky wasteland and Old World Blues, (I hate that DLC by the way. Hard sci-fi is better) Fallout 3 really terrified me to think there could be a nuclear holocaust in the future. Seeing our nation's monuments in ruins was incredibly disheartening and brought a tear to my eye as a proud American. What's more gut wrenching is to see the skeletons of people holding each other in what could only be interpreted as their dire last moments. I imagine their thoughts and feelings at the time. Although I still do think New Vegas is a better game all around, and yes I might just be a little biased as I've lived in California most of my lifetime, the vibe of 3 is unmatched to this day. Thanks for reading :)
While NV is more to my cup of tea, I certainly appreciate how much emphasis is given to exploration in F3. Who knows, and this is just a pipe dream, but if one day we can get a fallout that combines the plot and npc of NV and the exploration of F3, with the combat of F4, then yeah, we have a game that can give GTA V's Los Santos a run for its money.
the explo in nv and 4 is much better, what are u talking about.
The plot in new Vegas was undercooked, brotherhood of steel just leeched off the other factions, the legion didn't have any significant locations, the raiders basically didn't have a story.
@@wruzzer4 had hardly any memorable locations and new Vegas' highlight was the strip. Which you could walk across in 20 seconds. The place was about the size of megaton. You're the reason we have shit like fallout 76
I respect your opinion, but New Vegas does everything better.
Well thanks for not being mean about it haha. I didn't want to do constant comparing in this video to New Vegas but the main thing that makes the difference to me is the tone of the world and the capital Wasteland in general beats the tone of New Vegas and the Mojave. Love both games, but the world of 3 is much better imo
Lots of bugs, performance issues, necessity to install tons of mods, empty world, broken, unfinished, storyline after killing benny becomes completely boring and overrated, also all the factions main questlines are all the same and a lot of quests are just fillers full dialogue after dialogue. And the main city is ugly and disappointing.
@@enoismano7486 i guess this is what it must be to be delirious
@@Nickyreaper2008 and by looking at you. Let me guess, you havent played the game without mods for quite some time now right? Lol
@@enoismano7486 No bro, because i played new vegas 10 times without mods, it would serve no purpose. What I enjoy about new vegas first and foremost it's it's stellar writing and world building. That you don't fix with mods
Finally a good video showing some love to fallout 3. New vegas is my favorite fallout but its because what i look for in a game new vegas does. But i love fallout 3 because of the strengths you listed. It is so refreshing seeing a video propping fallout 3 up without putting down another fallout game or ignoring fallout 3’s flaws. For that i am subscribing.
Fallout 3 is one of the greatest games of all time. If they added mark morgans soundtracks from fallout 1 and 2 it would be even more incredible.
No no I agree! I like Fallout 3 the best! Fallout New Vegas is riggghhhtttt behind it but I live in the DMV so the capital wasteland is more personal to me. And yes! Every playthrough I get a new random encounter and discover a new location! And I like how personal the story is in FO3. The story in New Vegas and FO4 are both amazing to me too but idk something about fallout 3 just takes the edge for me
Just get this game and new Vegas and tale of two wastelands and you can have the best of both games in one large game where you get to keep your character for both stories and take items etc back and fourth from both games into each other it really is the only way I can play 3 and new Vegas anymore plus the mod pack updates fallout 3 some and makes it look a little better