The Fallout Game They Want You To Forget
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Fallout Brotherhood of Steel was an insane game that was not really that good. It's the black sheep of the fallout brand stuck between the CRPG classics and the 3D Masterpieces of Bethesda. It is not only a poorly done game, but it also led to the failure of the Fallout Brand and the company Interplay as a whole. Join me on this wild ride in talking about Fallout Brotherhood of Steel.
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Chapters:
Intro 00:00
Overview 04:46
Gameplay 08:13
Story 13:05
The Fallout 19:08
Referenced Footage:
-Van Buren • Let's Play Fallout 3 V...
-Fallout 3 • Why Fallout 3 Is My Fa...
-Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance • Let's Play Baldur's Ga...
-Extra Gameplay • Fallout: Brotherhood o...
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nah
What did you mean by "a portion of this video was sponsored"?
They also don't think of the 3 fallout games that released only in Russia. Fallout online, and the 2 other ones.
To think, this was someone's first and last Fallout game
I got it thinking it would be a ps2 version of Fallout 2. While I didn't hate the game (in fact I enjoyed playing through it) it did disappoint me greatly at first
It was my first. Thankfully, I tried 1 and 2 before 3 came out because Brotherhood Of Steel is abysmal. It is essentially a bad version of Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance.
Actually even though I didn't realize it until about a year or 2 ago this was me and my brothers first introduction to the fallout franchise. We rented it one night from our new very dead local video store.
This was my first Fallout and I absolutely loved it. I remembered picking it up used and loving it. I enjoy games like this and Baldurs Gate
It was my first Fallout game and I loved it. I appreciate the concern, though.
I remember reading that one of the developers of _Fallout 3_ had this game on their desk to motivate them to work harder so it doesn't suffer the same crappy fate.
me when i lie on the internet
@@christiansantamaria7233 Fun Police
@@christiansantamaria7233 me when I show off my psychic abilities.
Fat lot of good that did 'em
@@christiansantamaria7233 pretty sure it was actually in a behind the scenes of Fallout 3.
I've only heard that Bethesda was aware of this game.
It's not a stretch to think that a dev actually said that
The game that basically gave Bethesda permission to buy the fallout franchise
I'm sure they brought this game up in the selling discussion lol
Nah they outbid all the other buyers
If you were around back then you'd know Bethesda didn't buy the fallout IP they stole it in a deal.
Black isle got backing from Bethesda in exchange for rights to use fallout Ip and black isle was allowed to make fallout online.
Bethesda made it impossible to meet the contract and fallout IP became Bethesda's property.
That was inevitable, regardless. Interplay bet on the PC horse when consoles were surging, took too long to develop games, and the expenses overcame the incoming money. The problems that led to them selling were around even during the late 90s and they simply couldn't reconcile their creativity with the need to generate capital in a timely manner.
they were running out of money before this launched. they actually had most of an isometric fallout 3 complete, but decided to push baldur's gate dark alliance 1 + 2 (and this game as idek what in between) to try and save themselves through console sales.
I remember watching my older brother trying to beat this game a week after it released and watching his sheer rage at the combat of this game was enough to even make 5 year old me think “Yeah, maybe I’ll just stick with Tony Hawk’s Underground 2” and I think to this day that was one of my best childhood decisions. Glad I started the series with Fallout 3 instead
Great decision on Fallout 3 😤
Me to, thank god I never even heard about this piece of shit game until 20 minutes ago lol otherwise I’d have NEVER played FO3 and eventually discover FNV or FO4
should start with the OG
@@killeanmcchesney5138oh chill out it’s not that big of a deal lol
I started with Fallout 2, which I feel is still the best in the series.
I like that the first thing Bethesda did after acquiring the rights to the franchise was to announce that Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel are non-canon.
Tactics is more canon than this. The airship from 4 is mentioned as being made from parts of the Chicago fleet.
Also a few other things. BOS on the other hand probably doesn’t have anything worth salvaging
@@creed8712Wait, where was it mentioned that the Prydwyn was made from vessels in the Chicago fleet? I remember it being made from an aircraft carrier, but not anything specific. Some even theorized it was made from Rivet City.
@@michaelweiske702 one of the proctors mentions it.
Tactics is canon though
@JustGausS exactly the quote he was misquoted on lmao with it losing relevance as more FO games were made that reference Tactics overtime
Seeing the Fallout universe and deciding "Yeah, this needs Slipknot" is... certainly a choice
😂
It was the style at the time.
Still does need Slipknot
And maybe some korn too
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@@Jakepearl13 Korn noises intensify
Can I just say thank you for saying 50's retro-futurism and not "50s aesthetic" it's one of the first times I've heard someone say it right on RUclips...
Well most people have no idea what retro futurism is.
@@itsdabees true
Most RUclipsrs call it 50s retrofuturism
Most people also don't understand fallout as a series is post post apocalypse
@@deezboyeed6764 agreed
12:54 I like how these super mutants put up a laser grid that exclusively guards a toilet, and this toilet also has a massive trail of blood leading to it... implying that at some point, the mutants blindly walked through the laser grid to go take a piss and then kept trying to reach the toilet afterwards.
Like the dialogue leading up to that is trash, but that detail did genuinely get a laugh outta me.
This looks like a game that tried to capitalize on the trends of the time. Having bald, muscular tattooed men paired with skimpy badass women was a pretty popular design choice during the early 2000s (along with having games be grittier and edgier overall). Feels like Interplay was just having their go at it, like what Sega would do only a year after this game came out.
time splitters
You also forgot to mention that one of the "twist of the knife" was when the creators of Baldurs gate launched a lawsuit against Black Isle and won. This was done because they were contracted by Baldurs gate to make the game, lending them their engine. Black Isle would re-use the engine for BOS, but without their permission or even acknowleging the original engine creators. Ultimately, what killed the Interplay/ Black Isle Fallout universe was their own hubris and overreaching what they could get away with.
Damn no one talks about this. They make it look like the developers were greedy and wasted the profits of the other games.
You mean devs of Dark Alliance games, or original Baldur's Gate? Cause the franchise seems to jump between devs.
@@KasumiRINA Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance by Snowblind
@@KasumiRINA Why would you think it was the original Baldur's Gate when it's very clearly not similar at all, but Dark Alliance is specifically mentioned in the video.
When I say I wasn’t ready for that Super Mutant pissing, that is an understatement. Lmfao
My guy really had to go potty
And there's laser security for their exposed singular toilet?
5:22 That's honestly so ridiculously true on so many levels. Hbomberguy made that one video criticizing Bethesda and Fallout 3 and praising Interplay's previous iterations to such an extreme level that a fair number of people today think Bethesda's handling of the IP now is disastrous. Given how badly Brotherhood of Steel was and the look of Van Buren, I really don't think the franchise was going to go anywhere under Interplay's direction. Disregarding people's gripes about the story and minor nitpicks on other things, Bethesda at the very least made the games fun to play again if nothing else
with interplay you had suits and you devs though. the devs made great games the suits made idiotic choices like the mandatory combat heavy tutorial in fallout 2.
The ghoul doing a naruto run makes me want to play this
I've only played through this game once but I remember having a decent enough time with it. Part of it was probably because I was a big fan of the Dark Alliance games.
Dude you should play bards tale. The one other game that used that engine and ironically is probably the best “parody” game and funniest game ever
@@AL-lh2ht Bard's Tale is amazing!.. but a bit infuriating. It's deconstructive satire... *tl;dr:* Spec Ops the Line in fantasy setting but funny. Long explanation:
The main character is stupid, bot not like, a village idiot, but typical hero wannabe doing typical videogame / epic fantasy swashbuckling stuff... with narrator mocking it on every turn, starting with first wolf you kill dropping armor, gems and sword as loot (later loot is just items like fangs and skins the animal would actually have), and continuing with the Bard REALLY getting the obvious nailed into his head, that he should have stayed with the country girl... The humor is GREAT, it's not grating, but the inability for you to stop main character from making mistakes by acting like a hero is what can be infuriating... when you see someone about to step on a rake but cannot do anything to prevent the disaster.
The lead is voiced by Cary Elwes. In his Princess Bride / Robin Hood Men in Tights mode. Like, it's highbrow humor without being pretentious. The SONGS, oh my God, absolutely the best sing-along songs in any game ever, Bad Luck to Be You is like Still Alive in Portal level of ingenuity, and it's just one of many gems. Gameplay is solid slasher with actually meaningful action-RPG elements, like more story and less dungeon-crawling Diablo. It's very good. Roasts all stupid cliches, the very first mission makes fun of being nice to people for "romance" options to first quest being a rat cellar...
The developer, InXile, went on to reboot the Wasteland series. They're one of new wave of isometric RPG makers along with Obsidian and Harebrained, remember when people Kickstarted games that were made in spirit of Infinity Engine stuff or original Fallouts? I wonder if Larian's BG3 now will pave wave for more classic RPGs but now with a bigger budget... Anyway this video got me waxing nostalgic.
Yeh I was a fan of Dark alliance and this game hit right.
I remember liking this game just fine. This was about the time Champions of Norath was out and it hit the same groove just like Dark Alliance would later. But I hadn't gone though the whole Fallout 1&2 RPG experience yet so I had no idea of the disappointment bomb it created.
Same. I had fun with it for what it was, couch co-op too if I recall.
Okay but I actually really like Fallout: BOS. It’s not a great fallout game but it’s a fun little Diablo clone using the fallout IP
For sure, as long as you aren't going into it expecting a "fallout" game haha. Honestly, a well done dungeon crawler with the fallout IP would be pretty awesome. To me this combat just became way too stale and boring.
Hammers: I only knew that Bawls was a real drink because I shop at Mirco Center.
Me: I didn't know that Bawls was a drink just like I didn't know that Mirco Center was a thing and was glad to not know that this game existed.
Also me after eating gas station lamb chops at 3 AM: 13:02
Bro gas station lamb chops sound fire. I need some of that haha
Bawls is trash imo, but microcenter is the best store ever for PC components
WHAT?
Bawls is decent at worst. Definitely lighter than the average energy drink.
Bawls was an amazing drink.
@MrHammers it's okay to have the wrong opinion.
The candy store in my local mall, and the Market Street that my brother works at sell them all the time.
They were even featured in another Interplay game, Run Like Hell.
Honestly, despite everyone's hate for this game, the fact that it's pretty much identical to Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance kinda makes me wanna give it a try. I'm not opposed to the idea of a Fallout-skinned Dark Alliance game.
I still wish they'd bring Fallout 1 and 2 to modern consoles. And don't try to give me that "it wouldn't work well on a controller" nonsense. I've played it on my Xbox via Dosbox, and I have Fallout 1 and 2 on my Vita. There are plenty of buttons on a controller to do the stuff you need to do. Sure, you might miss a couple hotkeys if they don't add some kind of hotkey button combo for extra stuff, but none of that stuff is absolutely necessary to play or finish the game. There's enough buttons to handle anything you NEED to do. And a stick can easily be used as a cursor to move around and select stuff.
Hell, most of the stuff can be done on PC with just a mouse and clicking. Which could be done on a controller too if you just use one of the sticks as a cursor, and A and B as left/right mouse click.
Same. I like these ps2 era rpgs like Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance and Champions of Norrath.
Funny thing, this was my first Fallout game. Even back then though I knew that the Dark Alliance games were like an action spinoff of a computer RPG (Baldur's Gate) so I assumed that was the case with Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel too. It's an interesting experience going back to it now after having played the rest of the series. It's totally unlike the classic games, but kinda makes sense given the series went more into console action game anyway with F3 onwards. It's also the only game that lets you play as a ghoul which I always thought was cool, I always thought that was a missed opportunity with the later games.
Dude you should play bards tale. The one other game that used that engine and ironically is probably the best “parody” game and funniest game ever
Yah fallout really dropped the ball on a ton of things. You could use death claws and ghouls and super mutants in tactics as well if I remember correctly. The fact they decided to turn the story into trash and get rid of rpg elements in the series is a major let down.
Fun Fact: The sequel to this game was going to be set in my home town of Abilene, Texas. We even had our own designated vault, Vault 39! Which I reference in my username.
Very interesting
vault dweller and pokemon trainer?
@@DiogoSantosROLF Well the Pokemon trainer part comes from when I was playing Pokemon Gold version on my old windows phone, and I came across a Cool Trainer. His sprite, if you changed his colors around, resembled a vault jumpsuit. So I took a screenshot, opened MS Paint on my Laptop, and remade the sprite pixel by pixel.
Everything else is a reference to the cancelled Fallout game.
So for anyone who was on the site Newgrounds in 2004, you may remember a Flash Animation called Fallen Angel about a post-atomic Los Angeles, by San Diego animator Robbie Robertson. The main character of Fallen Angel is a girl named Sera, and given the proximity of the original release of this Flash to when Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel was on store shelves as well as the shared subgenre, it is likely that the visual inspiration for Sera's character design was taken from one of FO:BoS's selectable player characters, Nadia. Seriously, in terms of appearance, Nadia + box of hair bleach = Sera. It's about as close a match as it is when you compare modern incarnations of DC's Harley Quinn to a character from another 2004 Video Game release, Vampire: the Masquerade - Bloodlines' mad Malkavian, Jeanette Voerman.
Robertson continued to work on his Fallen Angel project releasing a longer Flash in 2008, attempting to adapt the story into a comic book, and then finally abandoning Flash to reboot the story as a 3D animation, which ended up taking awards at several film festivals. So if nothing else, that was one good thing to come out of Brotherhood of Steel. That, and getting to hear RUclipsrs opine about their BAWLS.
You did a great job going over all the key points of a frankly under-rated Xbox game, some love & some hate!
I love this game, found a complete mint Xbox copy for only $20 a few years back! I personally dig the game because it's a lessor known & talked about "Fallout" game with a unique style within the series universe, a guilty pleasure if you will.
It's definitely rough around the edges, and it's easy to hate when comparing to the series as a whole, but it does have some charming attributes to it!
NMA and many others call it Fallout: POS for very obvious reasons. Just emulate it, don’t bother buying it.
I think a Brotherhood of Steel game could have potential if done well. A good example I thought of was about a Brotherhood Recon Squad, they’ve been tasked to find specific kind of lost tech in an abandoned vault. Your actions lead to the outcome of their mission/lives. It’d be like Fallout mixed with Ready or Not or Republic Commando, with a bit of horror elements.
Ooo, what you describe would be like a shorter fallout game that's more of a linear immersive sim? I like this idea alot!
A BoS recon expedition whose main objective is just to identify valuable tech, report it back, and potentially negotiate it's release would be interesting as hell. There'd be places where they need to fight off whatever lurks near to get the tech, and places where they'd have to barter for it. Say there's something super valuable sat under a settlement, and they have to talk their way into getting it without letting the townsfolk know it's valuable.
@@0lionheart I imagine it as being something similar to warhammer 40k mechanicus
So… Airship Troopers?
As many faults as this game had, its character Nadia was a likely inspiration for the character of Sera in San Diego animator Robbie Robertson's award winning post-apocalyptic animation Fallen Angel. Robbie listed the Mad Max movies and Fallout games as an inspiration for his work, and Brotherhood of Steel was the most recent release at the time he started on Fallen Angel. On top of that, the characters are a near visual match, with similar outfits and hair. I like to compare the level of similarity here to that between Vampire: the Masquerade - Bloodlines's mad vampire Jeanette Voerman to modern incarnations of DC's Harley Quinn.
I'm playing through this right now with my friend on the PS2. Definitely a bad fallout game but overall it's pretty fun for what it is
No Ron Perlman, but they did get Tony Jay (RIP) to voice the bad guy and be the narrator. It's not a _terrible_ game, at least if you like top-down dungeon-crawling, but it just makes more logical sense to play Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (either one, but I felt that the second was better) instead.
The final boss(es) really is fucking ridiculous, though. I'd gotten the huge payday of 100K+ caps from beating the arena in the ghoul city and spent every cap I had on stimpacks, the strongest guns, and tons of ammo for them and still ran dry on both and had to resort to just ignoring all the enemies to make a mad dash for the train, even with the strongest armor in the game and every damage-dealing/mitigating perk I could maxed out.
My first ever open world RPG was Fallout 3, I was recommended it by the dude in the Gamestop when the copy of Borderlands I wanted was sold out.
As i was checking out. I remember seeing the case for Fallout: BoS on the shelf and asking if I should give it a try once I finished 3 and he just started laughing.
What a lad lol. Playing this back to back with fallout 3 would confuse the crap out of me, not even in the same universe let alone the same series of games
Borderlands good
I remember when Dark Alliance (on PS2 and Xbox) first released the seething hatred it got from PC fans due it's lack of open world, turn based combat, party system and player choice. Then I played it myself and absolutely loved it. I just enjoyed it for what it was, and not against what else had been released. Felt more Diablo-like to me. Decades later I still return back for a play through every now and then.
I would expect similar things here with Fallout BOS (which has a PC entry of the same name but completely different gameplay). Play it yourself and make your own mind up on it I say. Watching this video made me want to go seek the game out and try it for myself.
Also, all the negatives outlined in this video (eg linear levels, skill and perk system, jumping etc) are present in Dark Alliance as well. All part of the engine I assume.
Story and aesthetics are cool. I kinda wish that we could see a FO BOS 2. Like not even kidding I think that this spin off series deserves a second chance.
BASED Even tough I consider F2 one of the greates RPG ever made, I support game series having more spin-offs in different genres.
I want Fallout Tactics 2, don't care of with BOS or not, I loved the gameplay of Fallout refined with stances and full party control, but the game itself was poorly made and lacked dialogue system. I guess I should play Wasteland reboots instead?
Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance with Guns.....before Fallout 3 was Oblivion with Guns.
As an avid Slipknot fan and an avid Fallout fan, these things should not be mixed
This game was my intro to the series. I went on to play every other game.
It was bad but it had enough story that I wanted to know more. That means it actually did its job.
Here I was expecting this to be about Fallout Tactics.
The fallout game they wanted you to forget!? Some of us ain't ever heard of this fallout game until you mentioned it in the thumbnail. And after seeing this video I can see why I never heard of it.
BAWLS also had an advertising thing with that game,Run Like Hell. I think the tagline was (Grab your Balws and run)
Oh, man. I don’t know why, but Run Like Hell lives rentfree in my head for some reason. Happy to see someone else remembers it too!
I only ever played the demo, but I guess it left an impression.
That's interesting, I wonder if they had a deal with Interplay or something. Super cool
I played Fallout Brotherhood of Steel about 20years ago on Xbox. I think I rented it, but dont remember. I purchased it again a few years ago on Playstation 2, and its a decent game.
Its like if you took Fallout 1 and 2, then filtered it through Diablo hack-and-slash, and made it for consoles. Make no mistake, its bare bones as an RPG. There are only a handful of quests. You fight a lot of non-respawning enemies, and find slightly randomized weapons, armor, and healing items.
I heard its based on Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance, also a hack-and-slash spinoff of a CRPG. Having played that game its also okay, but it has much more randomized equipment as there are variants of everything. Fallout BoS is even more linear. The 3 characters(and 3 unlockable) are almost the same. Its just a difference between a heavy weapon specialist, or dual-wield specialist.
The only RPG element is that characters do gain Experience Points for killing enemies, leveling up, and getting skill points to unlock passive upgrades like +25% damage with explosive weapons, or active abilities like holding a charge of an energy weapon.
The overall plot of Fallout BoS is basically Fallout 1 all over again, so maybe it was a reboot. You fight critters, Bandits, Cultist Ghouls, and eventually Super Mutants to save the Wasteland. The only thing to actually do with the Brotherhood of Steel is you meet one of them as an NPC, and later unlock as a playable character.
There isnt much replayability. Its not like the other Fallout Games. You cannot do things in different orders, look for peaceful solutions, be sneaky, or join the bad guys. You unlock 3 new characters upon completing each game chapter, 1 per chapter. Those characters are just upgraded versions of the starting characters. One of the starting characters, the Ghoul is actually bugged to have reduced health points and upgrades related to health are also bugged to only be about 20% as effective as all the other characters.
Man I remember when I got my first ps2 ever I think 04-05 my mom bought 3 random games. Future Tactics The Uprising, Mojo! and Fallout BoS. This game changed my perspective on video games and life in so many ways, New Vegas was my second fallout game I played and loved.
Please do “The Bouncer” next.
I'm so happy to see that someone else played Mojo!, because I haven't to this day met anyone else who's played it, let alone even heard of it. Such an underrated title
@@MasterOfKnowledge. oh man it was a different game but I’ve grown to like it.
I will never forget this game. I had it and loved it. I can't remember how many times I've beaten it, dozens probably. I won't claim it was a good game, but I did enjoy the setting and introduction to Fallout and the vaults. I still play it occasionally on my Dellstation 980.
I even played a lot of O.D.T., does anyone even know about that game? It truly feels lost to time. Old PS1 game. Janky with clunky controls, but damn there was something about that game that kept me coming back. Never did complete it, though.
If you play through it and make a video out of it I'll subscribe! I know, the highest honor that could possibly be bestowed upon you.
"O.D.T.!" You have no idea how long I've been trying to figure out what game that was! I vaguely remembered playing it on the PS1, but anytime i tried to search for it online, I could never find it! All i remembered is that it was third person, and it had a weird acronym for a name... Thank you lol
Should play the two other games that used this engine, the two balder gate dark alliance games and Bards tale game. Some of the best hack and slash games ever.
@@AL-lh2ht I have, they're both fantastic.
The first (and last) time I played on an XBox was exclusively to play this game. I remember renting an XBOX from Blockbuster and instead of spending time with my relatives who came to visit ---- played the whole Fo: BoS game from start to finish. Great holdover while waiting for Van Buren.
The ghoul character had the best interaction with the prostitute npc though. And he had a perk exclusive to him that let him heal in radiation.
What’s funny was this was my first introduction into fallout and I didn’t even realize it as a kid
This was my first Fallout game lol,
I kinda wish it was remade or something like a reimagine hybrid remake, if it was official or fan-made as a mod,
Maybe using Fallout New Vegas as a base.
Just use the game's basic story as level design and then improve upon on it
Yeah, I feel like a linear dungeon crawler take on Fallout could work if it was given another go.
Trouble with this game is more to do with it just being a bit too simplistic and not really having the same tone as the rest of the series.
I feel like it just doesn't seem interested in trying to balance the silliness with any deeper social commentary, and its representation of women just feels like they exist only to titillate the player instead of having actual personalities beyond having big breasts.
@@casanovafunkenstein5090 Yeah even the Heavy Metal animated movie had some what a backstory with their women...
I like the concept of the game, maybe as a what if, or reimagine remake with some new cast as it own canon story,
just replace main chars with new ones or have main ones cast don't die if it doesn't make sense to the series.
then alot of reworks and side towns and quest.
But I'm just wishing lol
This was actually my first fallout game, although I didn't knew it at first, it took me a lot to realize that it was from the same series of the third one and new vegas, (which had me obssesed with when I finally got them) the few things I remember from it where taking the ghoul as I found it as the most interesting option, and abusing the heck out of stimpacks in certain battles, feeling like I was cheating, not a bad game, but quite forgettable.
Played it, accepted it for what it is, enjoyed it, beat it. Contra 2 top down, with fallout skin. Done. Of course in those days, top-down hack and slashes were popular ( Baulders Gate 2 is an example). Too many people want everything all the time. This is life. Take it for what it is.
ok that is kinda cool u can choose a class character between dweller ghoul wastelander n it looks like raider too. the vault dweller is an unlockable from wat i know. they need to have this where u can choose ur class like ghoul synth mutant or watever.
I saw and tried Bawls for the first time like two years ago. They had them sitting on a dusty shelf at Kroger's in eastern OH. It was okay.
This was oddly poetic
@@MrHammers this is like tanka, a 5-line hokku, with last bar being the surrealistic punchline.
I saw and tried Bawls for the first time
like two years ago.
They had them sitting on a dusty shelf
at Kroger's in eastern OH.
It was okay.
-Chainsawka Wedkichi
Did those bawls treat you right?
I am an old school Fallout fan, having started with 1 and 2 well before Interplay had to sell off the IP. Let me tell you, I was livid about how things played out at the time. This console spinoff game was intended to appeal to the hack-n-slash action game crowd (Diablo) much like Fallout Tactics was a spinoff that was meant to appeal to the tactical game crowd (X-COM) but this stinker of a game was just bad and was a failure. I actually don't know how Tactics did commercially, if it was successful or not. The decision of Interplay's leadership to not only make BoS but to greenlight and begin development of a sequel to it instead of putting those resources into their already in production Fallout 3 when the company was already struggling may not have been the sole reason the company tanked but it was certainly a large contributing factor. While I have played, and enjoyed Fallouts 3, 4, and New Vegas, I still to this day, over 20 years later, wonder what the Fallout series would have became if it had been able to stay with its original developers. I imagine it would have eventually evolved into something like Larian's Baldur's Gate 3.
I still remember when this game was announced, with a heavy metal music trailer I used to watch and rewatch on GameSpot until I'd memorized all the lines, loving the new style and visuals.
Ended up never playing it, because I didn't have a console back then, only a PC, where I played Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics as a kid, starting a love story with this franchise.
so dark alliance with guns?
Any time I see someone complaining about changes or retcons in the lore I just think of this game and wish I could be as blissfully unaware of how much worsr it used to be.
I loved this game. I used to play it a lot. It was the gateway game that introduced me to the Fallout universe. It's difficult to forget. Also it was a story about the beginnings of the Brotherhood of Steel.
Played this with my late dad, we’d get the super sledgehammers and go wreck it. Had a lot of fun and good memories, with 1 hilariously bad one:
On the last level the vault chick that gets caught in the goo begs you to kill her, did we both have mini nukes in our inventory? Yes. Did we instead beat her to death with hammers that mysteriously did only 2-3 damage per swing on her? Yes. We felt awful after that lol
I always loved this game, when it came out, I remember thinkin "Wow, it's like Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance, but in the FO universe!" and it was 😂
Interplay did what Bethesda would do years later when they used an engine for a fantasy game for fallout
@@Jakepearl13 I didn't care back then, it was Dark Alliance in the FO universe. Guess you would have had to have been there to understand.
I'm Surprised To Hear Tony Jay's Voice in This Game
Holy shit.. yeah, I played Brotherhood Of Steel and Baldur's Gateses in my gaming youth, thank you for refreshing my hazy memories. I really enjoyed B.O.S. but I was a top view dungeon crawler and RPGist since Shining Force.. but did not realise it WAS a Fallout game, I always thought Baldur's Gate did a post-apocalyptic game, so you've cleared that up for an ageing gamer. cheers dude.
This looks like a game someone would defend if it was like the only thing that kid got for christmas that year
When a game is the only game you got, you learn to love it haha
@@MrHammers should look into rumble racing. I loved that game as a kid.
As a huge ARPG and Dark alliance fan this actually looks good. I need to play through this
You'll probably enjoy it! It's worth a gander if you can get your hands on it, or just emulation
Yeah, same. I like both Fallout and ARPG.I haven't played Dark Alliance yet, tho.
I played the hell out of it myself. I was a rare breed that enjoyed it.
@@thegamingprozone1941 it’s, and it’s sequel, one of the best hack and slash games ever made that still holds up today.
The one other game that used the engine, Bard’s tale (not the long running RPG of the same name) is also great and legit may be the funniest game ever made.
You could use ghoul, supermutant and deathclaw characters in Tactics if you didn't slaughter the characters who open up the recruitment pools of each.
Soundtrack was pretty badass, though
Bro's codpiece even has a six pack, now that's metal
Lol that was the first thing I noticed! Don't ask why 😅
Love that super mutant piss scene
I remember playing this when I was a kid.
Looking back on it now, it was absolutely horrendous, and in no way related to the Fallout franchise other than name.
You're apparently just a newbie member of the Brotherhood of Steel meeting with the recruiter. But something went wrong.
Then it goes on with the 'You're princess is in another castle' mentality. With you looking for your recruiter.
I vaguely remember the end story though. Apparently a supermutant somehow discovered the cure to his species' infertile problem. The vault we go
to at the end was some kind of super-hospital. But we blew it up along with the mutants within.
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Love the content. Usually you cover some brilliantly obscure games
Thanks homie 😁
I will not forget about Brotherhood of Steel. I have in on PS2 and XBox Original. It's a fun coop experience.
Just gonna say, the story was better than I expected and was the Fallout game with the least amount of bugs encountered in my playthrough. Fallout Tactics is a close 2nd though and far more fun to me, if I turn the turn based combat system on lol. Also, 1-2 days into the Fallout 3 playthrough, I've already had a Super Mutant achieve orbit... I wonder if I will see him or is giblets when I board the Mothership? And I've played NV & 4 enough to expect many, many bugs
Edit: I've also noticed a correlation with reception in regards to Fallout and The Elder Scrolls. Arena and Fallout 1 are both a great story with a decent foundation for future titles, Daggerfall and Fallout 2 are regarded by some to be the best of the classic style games, Battlespire and Tactics kept the RPG elements for a linear story, both lacking choices present in the previous titles. And now Brotherhood of Steel and Redguard, their gameplay feels similar, they both tell a decent story but both of their combat sucks and ironically I think Redguard should have been released for console and Brotherhood of Steel should have been released for PC, I hate top down shooters that use a controller, keyboard and mouse feels more natural for that style and I feel that combat and movement would be so much better in Redguard if I was using a PS1 controller... camera angles in Redguard will always suck though lol
At least it has some 1950s cars laying around, more than what Van Buren seemed to have.
Heavy metal?
Playable ghoul?
Naruto run?
I think this need a remaster
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How could I ever forget it? I still have my physical Xbox copy. I actually didn't mind it for what it was at the time but I'm sure if I dug it out and played it now it wouldn't hold up my scrutiny now.
Man this game feels weird the concept of it as well
Don’t get me wrong I’m glad that Texas was chosen just wished it was done better the characters were cool just wished it was done better story as well
Maybe one day fallout will go back to Texas like fallout 3,new Vegas and 4 style
I think Texas has some potential for sure
@@MrHammers oh yeah would love to see my state/hometown look like in the fallout universe
This looks like some absolutely horrid jank. My favorite kind of jank.
edit: Just saw the super mutant potty scene. GOTY
This is ideal jank fo sho
This was my first fallout game, played it as a kid. Took me quite a long while to realise this game from my childhood that I adored was actually a part of the fallout series, despite the name and some borrowed IP elements.
People will probably say “you poor soul!” But I really liked this game, and it doesn’t colour my opinion of the main series in any way.
5 MIN AD? wow. never coming back
That super mutant guard scene was straight out of something a 5 year old would write. Jesus Christ, how can grown adults write something that embarrassingly childish and be fine with it
Dunno if you put Musk in charge of a game this would probably be the calibre of jokes
He just had to go potty bro
@@MrHammers ya know what, you right
To be completely honest, Brotherhood of Steel is better than the disaster 76.
76 isn't even part of the Fallout universe.
Unfortunately for them the Texas Brotherhood of Steel was just too cool of a concept, most fans will never forget at least that and we won't be satisfied until we get a canonical version otherwise
Fallout tactics has offered to play as ghoul , mutant, deathclaw, cyborg and robot so no its not the only game letting you play as a ghoul (note: just import your multiplayer chractere into singleplayer to start the tutorial as whatever race you like)
This game got some baddies
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The red Ryder BB gun is a reward for rescuing every innocent from the first lvl. Quite humorous too.
Dude those are sick ass games. They used the Snowblind Engine as well.
THIS WAS MY INTRODUCTION TO FALLOUT SERIES AND I DIDN'T KNOW OF ANY OF THE FALLOUT STORIES. I ONLY PLAYED IT BECAUSE IT WAS A FUTURISTIC BALDER'S GATE. SORRY NOT SORRY BUT THIS WAS DOPE! THE ONLY AND I MEAN ONLY FALLOUT GAME THAT FELT LIKE OUR MODERN TIME FALLOUT. 💯 Killing Raiders to Slipknot was just insane.🎉🎉🎉
WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING, IS IT TO DRAW DESPERATELY NEEDED ATTENTION TO YOUR AMAZING COMMENT
Ah yes, the FO title that makes you wish for a nuclear winter...
Thank you for another great video!
I liked this video on my other account that I watched majority of the video on only because… my god MrHammers, you have more strength than I do to make it as far through the game as you did. The clips that I saw of the game itself and your description of it gave me an aneurism.
I fully believe you’re more human than the rest of us for making it through and putting up for the poor excuse of a fallout game that this game is 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I saw a used copy of this in my local game store once and was confused as hell
For all it's flaws, a lot of people who bash this game calling it cringe and edgy are also the ones who download CBBE and loverslab porn mods uploading a gazzillion screenshots of their bimbo waifus on the nexus.
The metal sound track isn't necessarily a bad idea, getting slipknot on a fallout game has potential to be very cool.
it was one of those games that was A product of his time and if you weren't alive, then you wouldn't understand It's like the late 90s and the extreme era. You're not gonna get it unless you were there
16:50 hearing Tony Jay’s voice all of a sudden really threw me off; how the hell did they pull HIM to be in this?!
I actually really like this game in a way you like a so bad it's good movie, it's a terrible Fallout game but a fun time capsule of the early 2000s
It's got its charming moments, the long stretches of boring gameplay makes me really dislike it though. It could've been like 4 hours shorter lol. The cutscenes have some pizzazz for sure though
This was actually my first fallout game. It has a special place in my heart.
I spent dozens of nights playing through Dark Alliance 2 with my best friend and my brother, and I also was in love with Fallout 3 and New Vegas. So when in 2013 I found out about Brotherhood of Steel, I got really excited.... safe to say that excitement didn't last long at all.
I will never forget this game, it was the first Fallout game I ever played, and I loved it, however, it made me want to experience the real ones, and to this day the series is among my favorites
Dude I actually played the originals and I still enjoyed this game it's one of my guilty pleasures I know the bad rap it gets people say it sucks but I still love it
@@shadcoe5326 totally get it, and same here, we'll except, as I said I played it first lol
It's so damn sad that this is the only game where you can play as a ghoul.
Let's face it, Bethesda's Fallout 3 is the Brotherhood of Steel game we deserved but never got, while FNV was the real FO3, but it only got made because Bethesda's Fallout 3 was successful..
I actually like bawls. And yes, my first experience with bawls was also at a micro center. However, in my case, it wasnt the ONLY place i could acquire bawls, namely Quik Trip...at least for a year, give or take. Until the test market evaluation didnt come back positively. Kinda like vitamin enriched diet coke. Was there for like 6-9 months...and then it was just diet coke again.
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It's crazy how this game made female characters look way better then FO3 and New Vegas lol
What I felt back then playing this game was a updated version of loaded.
Matron is like the only thing worth saving. You can easy make her outfit mod for fallout 4.