10 NBA Stars Who Got ROBBED From Winning The MVP!
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Times beating Kobe in the Finals:
Scalabrine: 1
Jordan:0
Therefore White Mamba>>>Jordan
KevWin DurGOAT I don't think Jordan ever played Kobe in the finals...
CLICKBAIT JESUS issa joke
CLICKBAIT JESUS shhhhh
also scalabrine beat lebron twice in the playoffs
CLICKBAIT JESUS stfu gimme your ring.Don't even know nothing about basketball.
Kobe got robbed like 4 times
Jeffrey Alvarado W and cause of that rape case, lying ass women
Jeffrey Alvarado facts
Jeffrey Alvarado Man fuck kobe, Overrated ass
KinGNasTV how is he overrated?
KinGNasTV overrated? Lmao he's the second best Guard of all time
So basically.... Jordan should have 7 or.8 MVPs...
Yes....
Justin Credible like 15
Nah overrated
Ricky El Diablo stupid ass boi
I think he should of 9 or 10 and if you wouldn't that got hurt with the Wizards at first year you would average around 25 and got a horrible team playoffs 20 games left the sixth in the east
ANTHONY BENNETT WAS DEFINATLY ROBBED OF THE MVP
I also think that he got robbed of the MVP: 2013 LeBron James
Shrek Made Trillin the MVP race in 2013 should be Scal and bennet, for gods sake Scal was dropping 103 points a minute, Bennett averaged 323 a millisecond. Bennett got robbed
Most valuable pussy that is
Michoe stfu you fucked up the joke
Shrek Made Trillin yeah in the YMCA league 😂
You forgot Brian Scalabrine getting robbed every year he was in the league
They don't apperciate GOATNESS
Brian Scalabrine RIGHT THE NBA IS SOO RIGGED BRO
Paul George You forgot literally every year the NBA has existed.
Tsss he doesn't need such an award. He's on a much higher sCALIBER
Gray _ W
you forgot Scalabrine in 2010-11 he averaged 12.1 PPG 10.9 fouls 5 rebounds 2 steals and 2.4 blocks per 100 poss
but who won the MVP? yes, his teammate Derrick Rose
LuT
I let Rose win MVP, it is all good
+Brian Scalabrine wtf hahahaha
it's crazy that MJ got robbed 3 MVP's
and still got 5!
Speaking about dominance.
He got robbed more than that. There is his 37 points per game season and a 32 8 and 8 season nobody wants to talk about
He robbed Karl in 98.
LeBron is so likeable
While lebron got robbed of like 10🤣
@@demier-cn1ul lies 😂
#1 is also the same year that Oscar Robertson averaged a triple-double w/ 30.8 ppg for the entire season.
but wilt and russell were better
Also Wilt actually was selected to the All NBA 1st team that year over Russell (the MVP winner that year)...
Red Ace stuff like that happen. Eg: Noah winning DPOY but getting selected 2nd all defensive team
@Keyboard Legend And that's why these awards don't mean as much as people make them out to mean.
That's also when elgin baylor almost averaged 40 points
Brian Scalabrine 2008 season. I heard he is also legend 27s dad
Tyler Nathan He deserved 2 rookie of the year awards thats how good he is
+Derrick Wade wait wtf😂
Tyler Nathan legend27s dad 😂😂😭😭😂
Mabye he is the legend 27 and just steals his sons account.
Dude, shut the fuck out !
They really need player of the year award and mvp award.
A real G are u high?
Alex Kochman what you saying
Alex Kochman MVP and player of the year are two different things😅
+A real G Mabye a BSP, bets stats player an award that goes to the player with the best stats e.g. Russ or AD and then MVP that goes to the best player on a top team e.g. Lebron or Kawhi
Tom Jordan just gonna forget about harden?
So this shows Jordan should have had 7-8 mvps.
yep
If it was voted RIGHT, he does have 8 MVPS. WTF
Yung Boy Jay The Demi God lebron got robbed from voter fatigue too soooo
Logix this show that a kid with cancer can wing the mvp if the fans voted
Logix and if he didn’t play baseball even more
Idc what era/circumstances there are... If someone averages 50 PPG, they get MVP
This wasn't just a robbing, it was a fucking heist.
Even though those stats dont actually lead to the most wins?
@@anonymoususer2080 Yes. The MVP is an individual trophy. You can be the besteñ player by far, but play in a shit team unable to win
Harden Kobe and LeBron were all robbed
JAMES HARDEN 3time dpoy Russell Westbrook definitely got it if he average a trip dub
JAMES HARDEN 3time dpoy faxx where is 2015 harden
JAMES HARDEN 3time dpoy stop
stephen curry jr your name proves you know nothing about basketball
JAMES HARDEN 3time dpoy g
Why not make a video about Kawhi Leonard breaking the NBA? He's an NBA champion, finals MVP, 2X defensive POTY, 2X All Defensive First Team, 2016 All Star, has a 7'3 wingspan with an 11'5 hand length, and he's only 25!
luis torres he's a champion becauee his team is stacked, and he's a finals mvp because he was the 4th option on the floor, just like how iggy got it... they played good D on LBJ and that gets them finals mvp. Kawhi is a decent playoff player. Come post season he is just not a crazy reliable or consistent scorer like he is in the regular season. He's actually a pretty shaky offensive player come playoffs time.
Carmelo Anthony hes better in the playoffs
Carmelo Anthony i think so anyway
+Carmelo Anthony
I agree with most of that, but this year Kawhi has stepped his game up in the playoffs. He's a clear star on their team now loaded with old bums that fall down walking, and his game only dipped in OT against the Grizzlies in Game 4 I think.
luis torres ...to be honest I think he's reached his peak, you see Giannis and Davis consistently improving and getting better at something, but Kawhi has been playing at the exact same level for the past few years, exceptional player, but he's not improving any further.
you made a mistake, in 1997 Jordan had only 4 mvp's, he won his fifth one in 1998
Dwayne Wade should've been MVP in the 08-09 season.
Like Nash deserved both MVPs. If he robbed he would done fair and square.
Nash truly was the most valuable player during the years he won. That dude was able to carry average teams to 50+ wins.
No way. LeBron had a way better PER and he led his team to 66 wins.
Jake Peterson lots of nba players think shaq shoulda won that first year mvp that nash won and i agree shaq had the better year
the second nash deserved tohugh, kobe was putting up monster numbers but didnt win enough games. maybe him averaging that much actually hurt his team during the reg season
James Moore no Chris Paul
You change the player names in the video and instead of the PLAYER WHO GOT ROBBED, you post the player THAT WON it... So the title is confusing.
orestisDisturbed Ikr
How? He literally explains in EACH one who he thinks deserved it aka who got robbed. Anybody with half a brain actually watching the video can follow what's going on.
coolio33388 yeah but it's "10 players who got robbed of an MVP" and the list consists of the people who won the MVP
Aww, poor bbys
it's not confusing, it's just OCD inducing xD he made of list of people who robbed their mvps
Mvp(Ballon D'or) is a very important milestone in football/soccer
TheEnvyFrenzy it used to be not anymore
Tony Guzman why isn't it?
+TheEnvyFrenzy It's a popularity contest.
nobody gives a fuck tho - i stopped watching soccer for a reason
TheEnvyFrenzy Only 2 people win it.
MJ WAS THE MVP EVERY YEAR!
For sure.
In regards to Derrick Roses MVP in 2011
"Derrick's probably the MVP of this league. I think he has all the tools to be one of the best that played this game...I think so far, in my book, he would be the MVP."
- Jason Kidd
"He has stepped up and is now one of the best players in the league. I think he is worthy of MVP this year.
- Steve Nash
"Derrick Rose has taken that team to another level. He's definitely the MVP, to me, the way he's been playing... putting pressure on teams and stepping it up, leading his team on the offensive end. He has been spectacular this year."
- Tyson Chandler
"You look at what he's done for his team, it's tough to argue D Rose isn't the MVP."
- Kevin Love
"MVP. He's my MVP."
- Z-Bo post-game on Rose after the PG scorched Memphis
"I think Derrick has become the best point guard in the NBA, and I think right now he has to be the front-runner for MVP. Derrick Rose has been a tremendous leader. He's missed his second and third best players the majority of the season, and they have the best record in the Eastern Conference. That's pretty remarkable."
- Charles Barkley
"I’m not even being politically correct, normally guys say I’m giving it to LeBron, but honestly I’ll give it to Rose. If he stays on this pace that he’s on right now, he’s got my vote if I was part of the committee."
- Juwan Howard
"Derrick has had a phenomenal season. Just looking at what he's done with the team and their record, how improved they are as a team and how much improved he is as a player. I think I would give it to Derrick if I were a voter. He’s playing well, like he’s the best point guard in the league and the best player in the league. He’s the most valuable player if you really think about it. If you take him out of the lineup, there is no telling what you get."
- Chris Bosh
"I think it's Derrick Rose, definitely. He's the leader. What he's done for that team, with all the injuries they have and for them being first in the Eastern Conference - they're playing some really good basketball."
- Lebron James himself when asked by ESPN's Mike Wallace to weigh in on the MVP race.
Adrian Nesci how long did it take u 2 write that
Robot Superzzz got it from a news article
Adrian Nesci congrats, you showed that everybody lost their mind in 2011
Devin Pettit LeBron Lost his mind?
Did you also do this for your 5 paragraph essay in English
Harden was robbed in 2015
LeGoat James 2017 FINALS MVP #23 True
no he wasnt, curry was better.
LeGoat James 2017 FINALS MVP #23 hahahahaha what a joke
FACTS
Stephen Curry 's 2014-2015 stats:
23.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 7.7 apg, 2.0 spg and 0.2 bpg
James Harden's 2014-2015 stats:
27.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 7.0 apg, 1.9 spg and 0.7 bpg
James Harden has beaten Stephen Curry in 3 out of the 5 major statistical categories.
I forgot to mention that James Harden had to carry the Rockets with Dwight Howard missing half the season and Patrick Beverley missing 26 games for the reminder of the season. Despite that Harden carried the Rockets all the way to the 2nd seed with a 56-26 record and led them all the way to the Western Conference Finals with the 2nd most injuried team in the league. SO HOW THE FUCK DIDN'T HE WIN MVP?!
It is called the Most VALUABLE Player, not the best player. You can't tell how valuable a player is by only looking at his stats. That's why Bill Russel won 11 titles. His style of playing made him so valuable for his team.
His team also had like 4 other future HOFamers.
You can argue if you put Wilt Chamberlain on those Celtics teams.. they would have won 12 or 13 championships.. (and Wilt did single handedly beat the Celtics in 1967 or something)
Gregor Ott The Big O averaged a triple double that same year.
Yes, and he didn't win the MVP
Dude, the MVP is specifically for the best overall player that season. "Valuable" has that particular definition, you know.
Gregor Ott he played with like 8 hall of famers Russel was overrated.
I don't wanna hear anyone mention harden 2015 or Lebron 2011 or Kobe in 05/06
My man wilt dropped 50 and 25 for a whole season and didn't get MVP!?????
Yeh but the NBA was full of unathletic skinny white dudes
Kobe averaged 35 ppg in 05/06 you bum
@@tom.c4062 ok it was also filled with unathletic white dudes for the guy that won MVP
Densest no Chikara yeah 35.4 ppg but he only shot 45% meaning he missed 1195 shots. That means he missed 14.94 games shots a game that’s almost 15 shots a game. How does anybody miss 15 shots every game. Stop bringing up inefficient overhyped overrated people who play hero ball
@@alp21188 also wilt was a stat padder...way worse then westbrook which is sad because if he played team ball he would have more rings
Mike, I'd just like to say that these are the best videos I've ever watched. They're informative but interesting at the same time.
dwade sholdve won 2009 MVP
Miami Heat thank you I was so mad when he wasn't on here
Nah Lebron was better
Miami Heat wasn't that the same year he led the league in scoring with 30 points a game after coming off a season ending injury the year before?
@Chuck Hayes Wade was better in the 08-09 season
Tonald Dump I'm so tired of seeing this shit. Everyone that defends LeBron isn't a dickrider.
LeBron averaged 28, 7, 8
Wade averaged 30, 8, 5
The heat were 43-39
Cavs were 66-16
LeBron deserved the MVP. That other guy just stating facts, not dickriding
The balen dor is the most respected MVP in the world
Anthony Weber in us we are talking about
Alioune Ndiaye oh ok, sorry for the inconvenience
Anthony Weber the balon dor is a joke, it's a popularity contest
Anthony Weber I love football but the Ballon D'or is nothing but a popularity contest imo
Akimbo Slice true
This channel deserve 10,000,000 subscribers, u put so much work on your videos. Keep up the good work Mike!!
2:27
What a fucking savage
Luke C. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Luke C. 😂😂😂😂
Luke C. A
Luke C. 😂😂
He was kissing his massive muscles
Dab on em
How about 2002-2003 T-Mac? McGrady: 32.1 ppg, 6.5 rb, 5.5 ast vs Tim Duncan: 23.3 ppg, 12.9 rpg, and 3.9 ast.
Advanced Stats
T-Mac: PER 30.3 WS 16.1
Duncan: PER 26.9 WS 16.5
On the Magic team: 33 year old Shawn Kemp (who started 55 games), Grant Hill who managed to appear in only 29 games, Pat Garrity (53 Starts), Jacque Vaughn (48 Starts) and arguably the 2nd best player on that entire team since Grant Hill was always injured was Mike Miller (39 Starts)
Maybe not the biggest snub of all time, could see an argument for Duncan still but still, McGrady had the 15th high PER rating OF ALL TIME that season. But I am a pretty big T-Mac fan so I'm probably just biased.
Yeah, when I was looking at the stats they showed that it was a lot closer than I originally thought. I'm a big T-Mac fan so I'm definitely Bias here as well.
look at kobes numbers that year
Here's a comparison between Tmac, Duncan, and Kobe that year since you asked.
Tmac:
32.1 ppg, 6.5 rb, 5.5 ast. PER (perfencency) 30.3, WS (Win Shares) 16.1
Duncan:
23.3 ppg, 12.9 rb, 3.9 ast. PER 26.9, WS 16.5
Kobe:
30.0 ppg, 6.9 rb, 5.9 ast. PER 26.2, WS 14.9
Evan Pukajlo
I'm still going with Duncan in 03, but McGrady was awesome.
Yeah, Duncan was awesome that year and is still one of my favorite players ever.
Love the Craig Sager tribute shirt my dude! Congrats on 500K!
AlphaRaptorGaming
Thank goodness for this, Mike! I've been a NBA-ABA-NBL rabid fan since the 1960 season (because I had seen Wilt LIVE with the Harlem Globetrotters the previous year and followed him into the NBA). That 1962 MVP vote was (Greatest Of All Time) GOAT-atrocious. Wilt has already won the MVP two years earlier as a rookie; and his '62 campaign was just other-worldly great. Over that two year span, no way did Bill Russell improve much, much less as astronomically as did Wilt. That vote was sheer Celtic-biased media trumping truth.
Same with Cowens over Kareem. WTF! Same pro-Boston media bias revising-trashing real history.
Btw, I agree with all 10 of your stands here, EXCELLENT work.
2:55 You talk as if Kobe was the 2nd choice after Nash that year.
And he acted like the team was insane. His pick and roll partner Stoudemire was hurt all season
Gawky waif Shawn marion averaged 21.8 ppg and 11.8 rebounds
What about dwade when he averaged 30 that year
lebron averaged 2 less points and his team won 23 more games than Wade & Miami. it was pretty easy to choose LeBron.
Lebron won way more games than Wade tho and their numbers were similar.
Nicholas Wellons I agree. Wade should have won despite how many more wins LeBron had.
Golden.Boy but it's most valuable player not most valuable team.
Exactly.. that's it's called MVP not MVT. P for player..
KOBE SHOULD OF WON IT IN 2006
AlonzoThe Ultimate He took a D league squad with the exception of Odom to the 7th seed and nearly took out the 2nd seeded Suns :'(
I know and get scored 81pts that season
*he
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GoD'Angelo Russell but he blew a 3-1 lead to the suns
The best Basketball channel! Never get tired of everything you say in video....Keep up the good job Mike!
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Also the 1962 year was when Oscar Robertson averaged a triple double so both he and wilt should've been ahead of Bill Russell
That IS, by far, the most disgusting MVP-voting result ever. The "Big O's" triple-double was no "ordinary" triple double either - it was a 30 ppg triple double! Meanwhile Wilt had improved significantly over his 1960 rookie season MVP campaign. No way was Russell even in their "league" during the 62 season. The media-voting was dominated by a general East Coast, and particularly, pro-Boston bias during that entire period.
harden got robbed of two things:1. being MVP of the 2014-2015 season 2.being mentioned in this video
Leblanc Second except 1. Curry averaged better stats than harden per 36 minutes
2. Led his team to 67 wins
3. Championship
harden averaged better assist and rebound and Steph had a better team with draymond,klay, and an amazing bench while hardens best shooter was Trevor ariza and a terrible bench with the sixth man being Corey brewer
Leblanc Second You forgot 3.James Harden got robbed of being in an all NBA team last season
Hello, can I speak wth steph please?
Sure, dial 73-9
I did, but there wasn't a ring
You forgot the area code: 3-1
Stealing a joke is bad, but stealing a joke and telling it wrong is worse.
PACKERS FAN Steph have the same amount of rings as Rodgers
blackcobra1981 and rodgers has choked more than steph.
*Y O U G R E E D Y D I R T B A G* You right. Also Curry been to the Finals twice, Rodgers only been to the Superbowl once
mike love what u do on your utube channel. can u please do a what if about jordan. kinda like what you did for the 2009 nba draft pleaase.
Subscribed just for the reason that he has a Sager sting shirt on. Mad respect man, love your vids
jordan shouldve 8 or 9 mvp awards
Jhepoy Dizon you don't know NBA shut up he shouldn't of 😂😕
Young Dal hater alert huhu put some cream on dat ass boi
Jhepoy Dizon look at ya profile nigga 😭😂 don't say that to me
Jhepoy Dizon why would I hate on the goat ? I was just saying ya comment was an L
Young Dal he's right tho. Jordan should have retired with 8 MVPs
2 videos in 3 days? I like this korzembgod
So according to this video (which I agree with), Jordan won 8 total career mvps! GOAT
Bob
Hi Mike,
I am a huge fan of yours and I really like your conspiracy theories videos, such as the knicks getting Patrick Ewing or Michael Jordan's "early retirement". I was wondering if you can make more of those. I was also wondering that since Andrew Wiggins is my favorite player, if you can do a video on if he stayed with the cavaliers,
Thank You,
David Mizrahi
Harden 2014/15
Sami Ahmad true, surprised it wasn't on mikes list, but I think he deserves it this year.
Sami Ahmad True he did get robbed
stats dont determine MVP,
Curry and Harden's per 36 stats were nearly identical, with Curry being way more efficient from the field and three.
plus Curry played way better in the playoffs that season than Harden did, justifying that he got the MVP he deserved
nah Warriors surprised everyone with 67 wins, they ran away with that West even though the West was outrageously competitive, Curry deserved it even though Harden was crazy good.
Chef Curry hardens stats were much better if you look at the year and plus james carried that bumass rockets team to the playoffs
Kobe would of won MVP but this one player keeps kicking his ass.
God Smith is it the legend27
Is it thelegend27?
I hear he's never lost ever!
I heard he's the first NBA basketball player!
Brian Scalabrine
Zaza pachulia was robbed every season since his debut
Lame.!.
YES! WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING MY WHILE LIFE!!!
2002 Jason Kidd deserved the MVP over Tim Duncan. Nets went from 26 wins to 52. C'mon, idc if people say the east was weak back then. I guarantee if you have that same Nets team but keep Marbury instead of trading for Kidd, the Nets would not get close to 52 wins.
i agree with u
Jossie Zambrano facts I remember that I’m from Jersey everybody felt Kidd was robbed that year he gave us our best years ever
JKidd should've got it that year. He got robbed for MVP in his first all star game also
LBJ should've won the 2011 MVP. They only reason he didn't win it was because of the media constantly criticizing him for leaving Cleveland and voters got fatigued for picking him- he had won the last two MVPS in 09' and 10'. Derrick Rose only won because of his story: the hometown new kid from Chicago winning his city their first MVP since MJ.
EDIT: Derrick Rose also had a 62-20 record in the 1st seed but lost in the Conference Finals to none other than Lebron James. (4-1)
L
My name's stephen and i love blowing 3-1 leads mvp is for the regular season, playoffs don't count
My name's stephen and i love blowing 3-1 leads Lebron winning the MVP that year would be similar to KD winning it this year it just won't happen also rose had to carry his team where as Lebron had an amazing big 3 also Lebron was older and more experienced than Rose
My name's stephen and i love blowing 3-1 leads D-Rose led a much weaker supporting cast to a better record. Case closed
That was not a weak supporting cast. The Bulls had solid team with COACH OF THE YEAR and KYLE KORVER who led the league in 3 pointers that season. They led the league in highest defensive rating.
Bulls had 4 players averaging 10+ PPG
Heat had 3 players averaging 10+ PPG
Lebron has more points, win shares, higher FG%, and PER.
If you're gonna say that Derrick Rose had more wins, than I guess Steve Nash did deserve those MVPS against Kobe and Shaq.
Chris Webber
Which year?
Cam Gaines yes
Absolutely i completely agree.
11.1 rbpg 4.2 ast 1.3stl 1.7blk 27.1ppg
That Guy also got robbed of a ring by david stern
This was 2000 i think or 02
Love the videos! What about the ballon d’Or given out in world football? There’s a lot of people that care about that award
The two years Nash won MVP and the year Nowitzki won it Bryant finished 6th, 4th and 3rd in voting. He wasn't even close to winning, as voters don't just look at points per game and look at shooting and usage percentage and actually how valuable they are to their team
L..
No he didn’t win because he was 6th seed which is bs since Nash had Stoudemire and Johnson while Kobe had Kwame Brown
Wasn't anyone more valuable to a team than kobe to the Lakers
how the fuck you not gonna have 2011? c'mon man I know you're a bulls fan and all, but you can't let bias find its way into your videos.
Young Hov Rose clearly deserved it. Led the Bulls to the best record with considerably less help than LeBron
WhateverReally yeah LeBron had more help, but still that bulls team was stacked. And LeBron led rose in every statistical catergory and was more efficient
Young Hov Rose averaged more assists than Lebron. Rose was the only player in the top 10 in pts and ast.
Golden.Boy yeah true but rose is a point guard, his position is all about passing, and he wasn't even much better than LeBron at the and LeBron was better at everything else
Young Hov Rose did more with less at a younger age. No brainer for MVP.
Don I'm pretty sure the ballon dor is the most important award
Swagnoor HD I agree
Yep but only ronaldo and Messi win it so it’s different from the NBA
i think he means american football
@@hamzaelhousseiny9553 and thats wrong it was like that in the last years but their era is kinda over now (of winning the ballon dor)
messi still got a chance tho if he wins the champions League
Do a video on your picks for the all star game or picks for all NBA teams and postseason awards
Before watching your videos, I do click the "Like" button before viewing; because I knew I won't be disappointed.
You forgot to say that Bill Russel won the MVP ahead of 50 ppg Wilt AND ahead of TRIPLE DOUBLE SEASON Oscar Roberson
Mike, you will excuse me but, I feel like I've got to make certain points here for the sake of accurate NBA Basketball history.
1. 2008: Chris Paul put up great numbers, and his team won just one game less that the Lakers. Granted. However, this was the year the Lakers went back to the Championship contender list, while the Hornets didn't. Kobe played slightly better. I agree that it was a tough call, but I don't think it was robbed from Chris Paul. It was simply very close. Btw, the Katrina issue has nothing to do with the NBA MVP award, the game of basketball, or anything regarding the NBA. It's more of a social, environmental and economic matter than anything else. CP didn't get robbed!
2. 2006: Kobe did put great numbers (the greatest in his career), after all he was at the apex of his career. But that is also due to the fact that his team sucked, BADLY! Yes they made the playoffs because of him. But, Micheal Jordan's bulls made the playoffs for the first time in years in his rookie season, the season after that, and his third, all while being a very bad team as well. On an interesting note, while Kobe averaged 35.4 ppg, 1.8 spg in 2006, and got the first round, in 1987 Jordan averaged 37.1 ppg, 2.9 spg, and and got to the first round as well, while MJ didn't win the MVP either. He would go on to win it the following yr for the first time. The 1987 Bulls got eliminated quickly as well. So same situation. It's not only about the numbers, but also about winning. Kobe didn't get robbed!
3. 2005: The Phoenix Suns went from a buffonish 29-53 win loss record in 2004, to a resounding 62-20 best league record in 2005. Granted, the Heat improved their record as well (but not as notably as the Suns), as well as Shaq also improved his numbers, but the overall improvement the Suns underwent by being led by Steve Nash that yr isn't questionable. Shaq didn't get robbed.
4. 1997: This one really infuriated me. I'm sorry, but there are way too many inaccuracies here. Before continuing, I will point point out the fact that I'm an avid Jordan fan. That said, let's begin. Jordan's numbers started to go down this year. He was just passed his prime. This was the year he stopped averaging over 30 ppg, after a decade of doing so. First year ever he averaged less than 2 spg! Lowest assist pg average at that point, second lowest field goal percentage average in his career to that point. And to top it all, the Bulls failed to win 70 games, which would've made them the only team to do so more than once, and consecutively. So worst record than the year before. All this while the Utah Jazz's win record was improved, and one of the best they've ever had, while being led by Karl Malone who increased most of his numbers during the season, at age 34 (same age as Jordan). Btw, Jordan didn't have 5 MVPs by this year but 4. He obviously didn't get robbed. And the Jazz did give the Bulls a run for their money, although, I'm content the Bulls did win in the end. There is always PR and propaganda fired from both ends of the spectrum, and the stories did get written and published, but this didn't have a meaningful influence in the outcome of the voting. Facts are facts. Karl did better for his team and for himself that year. Therefore, the "voting fatigue" statement isn't accurate. Don't get me wrong, Jordan was still a killer in 1997, just not that much of a killer as he was in 1996, and as I said, he and the Bulls didn't improve while actually doing worse, all the while Karl and the Jazz certainly did.
4. 1993: Even though Sir Charles wasn't the best player, this year he proved the best leader of any team, league wide. The Phoenix Suns not only improved their record greatly from the previous yr, but they would go on to frequently beating teams known as superior to them. They did end up with the best win record in the NBA, and Charles Barkley had one of his best years while Improving his numbers somewhat. I agree that Jordan had a great yr, but the Bulls didn't. The Bulls lost 11 more games than the previous yr, while being the defending champion; and the Houston Rockets, while having the Dream put up great numbers that yr, simply achieved to win as many games as the Bulls. Again, I am a Jordan fan, but MJ didn't lead his team during the regular season like Charles led the Suns. Also, this was one of the most controversial years for MJ and the Bulls, as you've stated in previous vids. This has been said to have taken somewhat of a toll on the Bulls team chemistry during that yr. Charles didn't get robbed.
5. 1990: Totally agree! Michael Jordan should've been the 1990 NBA MVP. The Bulls improved their record, and went on to give the Pistons a run for their money, provoking a game 7 in the 1990 eastern conference finals. However, no voter fatigue, because MJ wasn't MVP the previous yr, and he had only won the award once by 1990 anyways. Michael was still proving himself as a winner in the NBA, as he still hadn't even won his 1st championship. Mike got robbed!
6. 1978: Completely agree. Walton was good, but missed too many games. His team knew how to do without him. Him winning the MVP this yr was ludicrous! Gervin got robbed!
7. 1973: Granted! In fact, Cowens was as average a player, as he turned out to be as a coach! Kareem got Robbed. Likely due to voter fatigue as you say! In this case it was more of a "pick the next guy" type of mentality.
8. 1970: The problem here is that the Lakers win record was worst than in the previous yr by about 7 losses. Even though Jerry West was great, his team wasn't. However, I'm not sure I'd give the award to Reed anyways. This one is very controversial. His team was great, while he was good, and West was great, while his team was somewhat good. Close call. Not sure it is a Robbery, not sure it isn't! PR may have played a role, but the Lakers record might have just made the story a believable one!
9. 1968: Granted. Reed OBVIOUSLY got robbed!
10. 1962: Again, Wilt's team lost about 11 more games than Russel's. However, I would agree it is a close call. Sort of like with West and Willis Reed. Maybe even closer. The thing is, the MVP doesn't necessarily go to the player who scores incredible amounts of points, or simply puts incredible numbers. His team play also counts a lot, and the team record has a huge influence in evaluating this in a given player. Still, I will repeat that in this case it is a close call, and could go either way. It would be very hard for me to give it to the leading scorer, or the one who led the other candidate in points avg by 30, if his team didn't do at least somewhat as good or close. That's why there's the award of scoring champion. Again, close call. Very hard to give it to Wilt in my view, but I will give you this: definitely not impossible!
As a final note, I will re-emphasize that if a player wins the MVP award, it doesn't necessarily mean that he is the one with the best numbers. Individual as well as team improvement from previous years, is one of the most important factors. In the only case in which I will say the MVP evaluation and voting of a player was somewhat non traditional while still being accurate, was in 1998 when Jordan won his 5th. The Bulls started 7 and 8 for the first month as Scottie Pippen was out for the first 35 games due to a foot injury, and MJ was starting to have problems with his knees, as well as had a cracked bone in his right index finger - the one his used for shooting his jump shot. As a result, for the first two months his numbers and percentages were at the worst of his career. He was after all turning 35 by then. However, suddenly and prior to Pippen returning, he started playing incredibly great. His numbers and percentages went up, and he ended being the scoring champion, having scored over 40 points 13 times during the season, and the Bulls ending up tied for the best record with the Utah Jazz. And even though Pippen returned and helped out, he wasn't his old self, as the injury had obviously taken a toll on his athleticism. Michael really played greatly that yr, and much better than in 1997 despite playing injured, putting similar to better numbers than the previous yr, all while coming from behind and bad percentages. He won the MVP award, and needless to say, the Bulls went on to win the 1998 NBA title, their 6th, a second Three-peat, and just before being finally broken up in the following months. So while starting very slow, to the point of his team having a record and put numbers of a team that would barely make the playoffs, MJ rose to lead the Bulls to greatness once again.
The NBA evidently has gone out of its way sometimes, in giving the award to someone who doesn't deserve it. So your underlying point WAS proven in the video. Just be mindful of historical facts, and their importance.
Really liked your top ten of JR Smith! Keep the good stuff coming!
Boy just put an essay on the comments
Why doesnt this comment have more likes? Great in depth analysis and helps to see the other side of the argument!
GMALEON all your shit was on point esp the 2004 2005 mvp you won dude. The last time on this dudes video a gut cussed me out and called me a uncle tom cuz I said kobe did not deserve that mvp aginst Nash
Wilt team loose 11 more games?😂😂. He average 50 points per game dude. He was better than Russell in literaly every fucking thing that. The MVP is an individual trophie
I wish the NBA would've watched this video and let Mike do the MVP awards.
I mean, Mike almost have 1 million subs (Congrats on 600K!) And he's amazing!!
just for the record i found out about your channel from OSN a wile back, i think it was Lebron Video he reacted on
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James Harden Yeah they all got robbed
What about 2009-2010 Dwyane Wade why didn't he win
Joseph Rodriguez Lebron with a 60 + win season putting up numbers
Numbers were similar, Lebron arguably had better stats, plus the Cavs won 61 while the Heat only 47.
08-09 when Wade averaged 30.2 ppg. Lebron averaged 28.4 and the Cavs won 23 more games than the Heat.
Nah, LBJ was better in that season.
Because Lebron won way more and their numbers were close.
Wade had more help than LeBron yet they still won less games than LeBron.
I agree with you on some of these, but there is more to the game than stats. Even advanced stats like PER and win shares, which I do think have some merit, never tell the full story.
Any potential videos on Steven Adams? I would be very very interested in seeing in what you could do with it!
If you didnt have Kobe Bryant in 05-06 losing to nash you was gonna catch this fade
People have to understand that you don't get MVP when your team get the 7th seed. You know the season WIlt averaged 50ppg was the same season oscar robertson averaged and triple double, but Bill Russell still got the MVP averaging 17ppg because his team finished first.
Never understood that though, MVP is meant to be an individual accolade so why does it matter where your teams finishes? Not the players fault they have bad teammates
***** yup
Jokic got robbed this year, embiid won and he wasn’t even statistically the best in his own position
merry Christmas mike. all my days same thoughts about this topic?
2015 steph curry (Players who deserved it could be: harden, lebron, Westbrook, etc.)
Caleb D durant played 25 games that season
Caleb D yeah show me one year where the best player on a 67+ win team didn't get MVP
+WhateverReally Kawhi in the 2015-2016 season
Proof that Harden was robbed of MVP:
Stephen Curry 's 2014-2015 stats:
23.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 7.7 apg, 2.0 spg and 0.2 bpg
James Harden's 2014-2015 stats:
27.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 7.0 apg, 1.9 spg and 0.7 bpg
James Harden has beaten Stephen Curry in 3 out of the 5 major statistical categories.
I forgot to mention that James Harden had to carry the Rockets with Dwight Howard missing half the season and Patrick Beverley missing 26 games for the reminder of the season. Despite that Harden carried the Rockets all the way to the 2nd seed with a 56-26 record and led them all the way to the Western Conference Finals with the 2nd most injuried team in the league.
WhateverReally Curry had average all star stats n you know that nigga only won because all y'all was hyping him up n NBA saw a chance to replace bron and get money
It's a good day if Korzemba uploads! Before I watch: HARDEN IN 2015 WAS ROBBED! WHAT HE DID WAS TREMENDOUS FOR THAT ROCKETS SQUAD!
Mike do a "what if Carmelo never left denver"?! :)
Nice shirt Mikey! 😜
honrable mention: lebron got robbed from derrick rose
Burnout VW nope. They were close but Drose lead his team to the best record of 62-20. And the season sweep of the heat during the regular season made it easier to pick Drose.
Even Lebron said Rose deserved that MVP c'mon now.
Burnout VW rose deserved that MVP he led them deep into the playoffs and had the best record
d rose led histeam to the #1 seed by himself that year dummy take a seat
Steve Nash deserved his MVP.
PHX was good because Nash made them good. Did we forget 2003-04 PHX was one of the worst teams in the league before Nash came?
Here were the stats of the top 3 vote picks. Nash, Dirk and Shaq
Shaq: - 22.9ppg/10.4rpg/2.7apg/60%fg/46%ft/11ws
Dirk: 26.1ppg/9.7rpg/3.1apg/46%fg/~40%3pt/87%ft/15.6ws
Nash: 15.5ppg/3.3rpg/11.5apg/50%fg/43%3pt/~89%ft/10.9ws
Despite averaging lower stats than both individuals, Nash had the most impact on his team.
03-04
PHX: 29- 53
MIA: 42-40
DAL: 52-30
04-05 Season
PHX: 62-20 (Nash's 1st year)
MIA: 59- 23
DAL: 58- 24
That's a 33 game win increase, top10 in largest win increases or swings.
Here's some comparable win swings: 97-98 Spurs - +36 win swing 89-90 Spurs - +33 win swing 79-80 Celtics - +32 win swing
The major difference between the 03-04 PHX season was a increase in games Amare played (30 more) and Nash's arrival.With Nash running the Offense Phoenix finished first in offensive rating and PPG, as well as first in the West with 5 other 50+ win teams. For comparison the 97-98 Spurs finished 7th overall in the league, the 89-90 Spurs finished 4th overall, and and the 79-80 Celtics finished 1st.
With Nash at the helm, the Suns' 3 next best players saw bumps in scoring and efficiency:
Stoudomire- 20.6ppg/47.5%fg to 26ppg/55.9%fg.
Joe Johnson - 16.7ppg/43%fg/30.5%3pt to 17.1ppg/ 46.1%fg/47.8%3pt(Best year)
Shawn Marion - 19.0ppg on 44%fg to 19.4ppg on 47.6%fg (not much increase)
Nash's impact was so great on each player, Amar'e and Marion were also in the MVP race. Nash led one of the greatest turnarounds ever.
Stop with the nonsense, Nash deserved his MVP.
Completely disagree. Amar'e only played 55 games for one in 2003-04, also the Suns were going through a coaching change having fired Frank Johnson after 21 games... with this, D'antoni didn't have time to plant his system since 1/4 of the season had already passed. This in turn gave the Suns a whole 2004 summer to learn D'Antoni's system. Also, the Suns added Quentin Richardson who averaged 15 PPG which is crazy considering you look at the other 4 studs the Suns had and his FG% was actually a little down compared to the year before with the Clippers.
Also, has we are seeing now in 2016-17 with James Harden, D'antoni's system is PERFECT for any PG to increase their stats. Shit look at Kobe in 2012-13 with D'antoni as coach. Kobe went from averaging 4.6 assists in 2011-12 to 6.0 assist in 2012-13.
The NBA also changed the entire division standing from 2003-04 to 2004-05. The Pacific division had Seattle and Portland in 2003-04 season but moved them to the North West for 2004-05. Seattle went from 37-45 to 52-30 in just 1 year. Also, the Lakers had taken a HUGE hit basically losing everyone but Kobe and they sucked to go along with the Clippers and Warriors who were also garbage. The Kings were also still a playoff team but were declining and that would be their last 50+ win season (50-32) and their last playoff appearance would be in 2005-06, meaning they were QUICKLY on the decline. Also, they had traded C-Webb and Doug Christie Meaning Peja was the last great player they had from their early 00's runs.
ThatKidReem #16xChamps #Kobe suns needed just a solid pg johnson a good shooter stoudemire is a good finisher and nash was nothing but above average in my opinion kidd>nash
Nash lead the league in assist twice after Da'antoni left. Stop underrating nash and overrating Da'antoni.
dominik matić Kidd was my fav player in the 90s and 00s but Nash was the better pg but Kidd was the better player
@@VICTORGENTRY What you said, I agree... I saw an article recently ranking the top 20 NBA offenses of all time... Like 6 of them were Steve Nash teams, 3 from his Dallas years, and 3 from his Suns years... But if Steve Nash was so great, and he spent almost all of his career surrounded by good/great players, then why did he never even make it to the Finals?
Jason Kidd played the same number of years with Dirk, and even in the twilight of his career, once he finally had another Hall of Famer next to him, Kidd was able to help the Mavs finally win the title.
Nash was a very good player on offense, but a total liability on defense. Nash is the most overrated player in NBA history.
this was last 2016. now you have 1M this 2017. yo the man!
Make a video on your top ten players of all time.. That would be a cool video
I personally couldn't care less who wins MVP. We know which players are great and it really doesn't matter who is the "best" for a single year chosen completely arbitrarily.
Trillyana truest comment yet
warriors fan but harden 14-15 is number 1 . He had stats and wins but i disagree with kobe. wins mean way more than stats just my opinion
Commandosoap777 exactly
JAMES HARDEN 3time dpoy if the rockets can some how get into 2 seed he has to get it .He can still do it in third but its way less likely
The stats's don't mean anything if they don't translate into wins
Commandosoap777 the only thing he had on curry was PPG... curry had better advanced stats and he won more
chefsteph for3 x kd boi no dumbass harden had more points assists rebounds per
It's not always about stats its how valuable are you in the team especially if your making your teamate better and how great you are in game
I know this is short notice, but can you do a video of the top 10 christmas games of all time?
I was subscribed since 4,000 subs and I watched all your 2k videos that you call "cringey" now but I enjoyed them and liked every one of them
I think nfl and nba MVPs are even. They're both kinda stupid because in the nfl it's almost always a qb and in the nba you have to be on a good team
Dakota Deal Yeah I don't see how the NFL one is not a big deal but the NBA one is, sounds more like a preference.
Steven Kunzer It definitely is a preference
Dakota Deal Because in the NBA who every wins the MVP is doing a single handed effort carrying the team. Example the 09-10 Cavs without Lebron would be trash but the Patriots without Brady would still be a great team.
Not comparable..In the NBA the mvp is the team..That's why Durant won it that year that RUSSEL Was injured.
SONICdaGOON That's not always true. Nash got two on a great team. Bron got 3 on a great heat team
@Mike korzemba Every point I agree with execpt when you said that wes was a defensive liability because of his size but by that logic so would Willis Ben Wallace, Dennis rodman most of them are 6"8 or 6"9 give or take. Multiple people have said Wes was a stout defender
Hey Mike, I thought of a great idea for a video. Make a video on the top 10 players in NBA history to not go top 10 in the NBA draft.
Lebron deserved it over DRose
Yea I agree I thought that would be on here. I love D Rose but it seems to fit into that voter fatigue category.
How? Rose led his team to the best record with Noah and Boozer out half the season. Lebron had a big 3 and couldn't do that. Rose was the only player in the top 10 in Pts and Ast. Rose was arguably the best defensive PG he held the opposing PGs to the fewest points all season after Rose's injury the Bulls dropped to one of the worst in PG defense. How was Lebron more valuable than Rose that season? Lebron had two Allstars on his team.
Golden.Boy Rose had 25points. 5 rebounds and 5.5 assists. The only reason he won was because of voter fatigue James had a better year. I am a big fan of Rose btw.
You Lebron fans are funny. Do you understand what M.V.P stands for. Most valuable player. 2011 if DRose was not on that team no way they would came out to the first seed. Especially when Noah and boozer out half the season. You guys kill me man.
Turt Reynolds You are sleep bruh. Rose had an incredible season he is one of three players in nba history to finish with 2000pts and 600ast. He was nearly a unanimous MVP Howard and Lebron barley got any votes. The choice was obvious.
D-Wade better be on this..
KBTITAN-24
Over who?
TheRealMVP LeBron... Dwyane Wade had a monster season in 2008-09
TheRealMVP LeBron 08 09
LeBron>Wade in 08-09
KBTITAN-24
HELL NO. He led the worst roster i've seen on a court in a long, LONG time to 66 wins. No one in history deserved MVP that year like LeBron did.
U didn’t even put Dwade 08-09 in this video.. Cmon mike
Awesome work
Can you please do, "What if Michael Jordan never came to the league or existed?".
Smashing Guy would be cool to see a "what if Michael Jordan played baseball his whole life instead of basketball"
KOBE IN 2006
Korzemba, where the hell do you get all theses information?
Do "What if Westbrook left to the Warriors instead of KD?" video.
I hate what if videos....
Such a waste of time to think of something that never had and never will happen
@@haroldfrets1268 u must be a lot of fun at parties
1962 was also the year oscar averaged a triple double that year as well I believe.
Travis Sloan Bruh you don't know basketball
Froshe Fresh do yourself a favor and look it up 1961-1962 Oscar Robertson averaged 30.8 PPG 11.4 APG 12.5 RPG. That looks like a triple-double to me. So I think I do know something about basketball. Good try.
Travis Sloan stfu you said 1962-1963 you don't know shit get the fuck outa here you've barley been watching basketball since last year
Froshe Fresh I don't really know how you'd know how much basketball I watch but I said 1962, which the majority of the 1961-1962 basketball season was played in 1962. So again nice try, I'm glad you thought it necessary to make a shitty point and try to cover it poorly but sadly it backfired on you.
Froshe Fresh No, you generally say the least year associated with the season or both years.
Did this man just say nobody cares about NFL's MVP????
Ariel Castillo yes it's unbelievable he is just bias
Ariel Castillo he did, and because he's 100% right. NFL and the NBA are my two favorite sports, but I can tell you that the NFL MVP holds far less value to NFL fans then the NBA MVP does to NBA fans
Allen Iverson that's your opinion
Ariel Castillo C'mon dude, the NFL MVP doesn't mean jack shit. It almost unilaterally goes to a quarterback or a running back. Occasionally a linebacker or a defensive end gets it. The NBA MVP can go to anyone in any position if your team is good enough.
Daniel Daw the nfl mvp is still very important to nfl fans and there has been riots for stupid voting
mj is the goat
for sure
All day but i have to add Kobe was robbed should have got more MVP
Yeah. Only before Lebron step his foot on the playground
Should try to do a MVB video - Most Valuable Busts. Basically the video would look at perceived "busts" and see who among them actually do not deserve the label based on whatever production they had throughout their NBA stints. I guess you can also look at which of these busts should have been seen as a role player instead of stars.
2015 James Harden?
Alex Krzesowiak nope
Proof that Harden was robbed of MVP:
Stephen Curry 's 2014-2015 stats:
23.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 7.7 apg, 2.0 spg and 0.2 bpg
James Harden's 2014-2015 stats:
27.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 7.0 apg, 1.9 spg and 0.7 bpg
James Harden has beaten Stephen Curry in 3 out of the 5 major statistical categories.
I forgot to mention that James Harden had to carry the Rockets with Dwight Howard missing half the season and Patrick Beverley missing 26 games for the reminder of the season. Despite that Harden carried the Rockets all the way to the 2nd seed with a 56-26 record and led them all the way to the Western Conference Finals with the 2nd most injuried team in the league.
+Brian Scalabrine
Wrong.
per 36 minutes, 2014-15 season:
Harden: 26.8 PPG, 6.8 ast, 5.5 reb, 44% FG, 37% 3, 87% FT, 3.9 turnovers
Curry: 26.2 PPG, 8.5 ast, 4.7 reb, 49% FG, 44% 3, 91% FT, 3.4 turnovers
Curry was so dominant he skipped out in 20+ 4th quarters thus way less minutes. Curry shot way better from the field, way less turnovers, better passing, better defense, and led his team to 11 more wins than Harden did. Curry also had better 4th quarter stats than Harden.
And Harden did not lead them to the Western Conference Finals. Josh Smith is the only reason Harden got past the 2nd round, with his literally MJ like clutch performance in game 6, *when Harden got BENCHED by his coach in an elimination game*
And then Harden disappeared in games 3, and 5 of the WCF, including NBA record 13 turnovers in game 5.
DeGod DeRozan Regular Season award. And in the playoffs he was the only threat on the Rockets
Alex Krzesowiak yes harden was robbed that year
I think Steph Curry needs a participation award for losing a 3-1 lead.
GD Boi if he deserves one for that then he deserves one for 8 finals
GD Boi 3-5 in the finals isn’t even bad
Its bad
@@Niro2210 it's bad y? It's means LeBron dominate east not the NBA.look Jordan 6/6 he dominate east and the nba
Kobe's '05-'06 is up there for me with the greatest seasons of all time, up there with the 2 triple double average seasons, Wilt's 50.4 ppg, and Michael's '87 season, or whichever one he was defensive player of the year
No way. He should have 0 mvps
Hyp3r Handles ... I didn’t say it means MVP, in basketball MVP really just means “outstanding player on a top 4 team”
Mike where did you get that shirt at looks cool