Every MVP Winner On A Team Lower Than The 2nd Seed

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  • @SuperNASCARrocks
    @SuperNASCARrocks Год назад +251

    Jordan in ‘88 was impressive. Dude averaged 35 PPG while also winning DPOY. Doing both in the same season was crazy.

    • @jerodtabb311
      @jerodtabb311 Год назад

      Crazy 💯💪

    • @tj5180
      @tj5180 Год назад +11

      Also carrying a horrible bulls team with pippen as their 8th man in the regular season to the playoffs. Dominated the cavs in the 1st round and faced the pistons

    • @traslenpatterson3478
      @traslenpatterson3478 Год назад +16

      Impressive???? That's a UNDERSTATEMENT!!....let me give you a lil insight what Jordan's 88' season was like.....
      ALL NBA 1ST TEAM
      ALL DEFENSIVE 1ST TEAM
      ALL-STAR
      ALL-STAR MVP
      LEAGUE MVP
      LEAGUE LEADER IN STEALS ( 259 )
      131 BLOCKS
      D.P.O Y
      SCORING CHAMPION ( 35 PPG )
      53.5% FROM THE FIELD
      SLAM DUNK CHAMPION
      This 👆 is the kind of seasons Jordan was having before Pippen was drafted and matured as a player.
      This guy said the same thing I've been saying for DECADE'S...." it was Jordan's 88' season that started the whispers of Jordan being the greatest player ever "

    • @aztn19
      @aztn19 Год назад

      ‘88 Jordan was sooo good, the two best players in the world were in awe of him despite being on better teams, and one team had to become straight up villains of the NBA just to stand a chance against him (okay, Dumars then & now is a pretty good guy-he’s more ‘villainous’ by proxy. Edit: John Salley is in the same camp as Joe)!! 🐐level 🫡

    • @dtowndtown9232
      @dtowndtown9232 Год назад +1

      35ppg with 3.2 steals and 1.6 blocks is crazy, Jordan’s 2 way presence was unmatched

  • @Maxjuliann
    @Maxjuliann Год назад +265

    Nah jordan averaging 35 points and winning defensive player of the year in the same Szn is insane

    • @OkagaCalifornia
      @OkagaCalifornia Год назад +1

      Wasn't he playing vs mailmen?

    • @Theterminato2013
      @Theterminato2013 Год назад +15

      @@OkagaCalifornia Yeah like playing against twitch streamers and load managers is SO much better. 😂🤣

    • @traslenpatterson3478
      @traslenpatterson3478 Год назад +9

      It's BEYOND insane when you take in what he did that 88' season....
      ALL NBA 1ST TEAM
      ALL DEFENSIVE 1ST TEAM
      ALL-STAR
      ALL-STAR MVP
      LEAGUE MVP
      LEAGUE LEADER IN STEALS ( 259 )
      131 BLOCKS
      D.P.O.Y
      SCORING CHAMPION ( 35 PPG )
      53.5% FROM THE FIELD
      SLAM DUNK CHAMPION
      The whispers started about Jordan being the goat...

    • @paul9299
      @paul9299 Год назад

      The fact that you couldn't spell out season and chose to abbreviate it to szn yet couldn't figure out DPOY instead of spelling that out says everything I need to know about your general intelligence and NBA acumen 🤣

  • @Axx_axx
    @Axx_axx Год назад +23

    In 2022 Jokic was the first to have at least 2,000 points, 1,000 rebounds and 500 assists in a single season. This also impacted the decision.

  • @wasthataspongebobreference533
    @wasthataspongebobreference533 Год назад +59

    Another crazy stat is that every player to have won an MVP has made it to the Hall of Fame. Of the active players, the only one who’s looking like he might not make it is D-Rose

    • @Augustp08
      @Augustp08 Год назад +3

      I still think D rose can pull it off

    • @NotMeNaNaNa
      @NotMeNaNaNa Год назад +9

      @@Augustp08 doubt it. He’d have to be a Detlef Schrempf or Jamal Crawford level 6th man and he’s nowhere close to that.
      He might make it since it’s the basketball HOF and his 1 season at Memphis where he led them to an NCAA record 38 wins(despite losing to Kansas in the final) might be the kicker.

    • @Augustp08
      @Augustp08 Год назад +16

      @@NotMeNaNaNa there’s a lot of good examples of players that were plagued by injuries after a few seasons of their prime. His prime was way shorter than other players in that category, but the mvp gives him a decent case

    • @Wheatsolo
      @Wheatsolo Год назад

      ​@@Augustp08 yeah maybe his renaissance isn't as good as grant hill but he's an example of a guy plagued by injuries who transformed his career. Vince Carter. Even c-webb became an entirely different player after he blew his knee out

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад +7

      Derrick Rose may not, but even if he doesn’t make it, he’ll probably be referred to as someone who might have become a consensus Hall of Famer without injuries.

  • @CrazyxEnigma
    @CrazyxEnigma Год назад +118

    Jordan in 88 is easily the most impressive one on this list. Can you imagine a guy averaging 35 a game carrying his team not only on offense but defensively as well in today's league?

    • @wuwilliam2464
      @wuwilliam2464 Год назад +5

      giannis

    • @tj5180
      @tj5180 Год назад +3

      @@wuwilliam2464 giannis didnt carry the bucks

    • @pashabicepx4445
      @pashabicepx4445 Год назад +3

      Embiid

    • @crazyboydakota
      @crazyboydakota Год назад +1

      Offense is encouraged more in today's game with the rules too!

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma Год назад +1

      Neither of those guys are carrying their teams as hard as Jordan did their #2 and #3 options are quite better than Charles Oakley, you could argue their #4 as well.

  • @darshin95
    @darshin95 Год назад +28

    Kareem winning in 1976 while missing the playoffs with a losing record is INSANE

  • @ja4309
    @ja4309 Год назад +68

    Meanwhile MyPlayer in 2k16 (MyCareer): Became MVP as a rookie while in a 7th seeded team
    (Don't worry, per Hall of Fame difficulty rules, said MyPlayer got swept by the Cavs 😂)

    • @alwayyssgone
      @alwayyssgone Год назад

      My player wasn’t mvp as a rookie but he was fmvp first year

    • @blowc1612
      @blowc1612 Год назад

      2k14, my player broke every record.

    • @blowc1612
      @blowc1612 Год назад

      Demolished Wilts 100pt game, 120-20assists TRIPPLE double and hit 30 3s in one game. As a rookie 😂

  • @heritagefamilydental
    @heritagefamilydental Год назад +18

    planning, research narration are all top notch by andy as always. premium content indeed. indeed.

    • @kenrickkahn
      @kenrickkahn Год назад

      You can tell Andy loves what he does.. You can feel it when he does these videos.. Dude loves the sport of basketball and you can tell it and feel it.. 👍🏿❤️ Go Andy Go!

    • @alexmartin628
      @alexmartin628 Год назад

      I feel like we're watching prime Andy Hoops right now.

  • @hoopingwithhamez
    @hoopingwithhamez Год назад +63

    Embiid is probably gonna be the first player ever to win the MVP coz people feel bad for him not winning it yet💀
    Giannis is the MVP in my opinion, hes just been THAT good for so long that people just dont appreciate him as much anymore. He'll put up 25,15, and 5 and people will say that's a bad game..

    • @MarcoRoberto1
      @MarcoRoberto1 Год назад +1

      Nah. Joel is WAY better than Giannis.

    • @hoopingwithhamez
      @hoopingwithhamez Год назад +15

      @@MarcoRoberto1 You should say WHY u think that instead of just stating it bro, I'm curious. Joel may be more skilled offensively, but Giannis is the way better player overall. He's more versatile, a better defender, better passer, better team record with him, better impact. The only 2 things joel is better at than Giannis is shooting. dribbling/handles can go either way tbh

    • @imfrederic2312
      @imfrederic2312 Год назад +6

      @@MarcoRoberto1 What makes Joel « WAY better » than Giannis?

    • @Jboooog18
      @Jboooog18 Год назад +2

      I had giannis MVP as well

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma Год назад +2

      I don't feel it's highway robbery or anything all three guys in the race have compelling arguments to win.

  • @jamesv3309
    @jamesv3309 Год назад +8

    Been watching you for years. Your channel is the reason I still follow up with basketball. Thank you, Andy.

  • @dylanatkins4968
    @dylanatkins4968 Год назад +12

    Jokic should’ve been featured twice. The nuggets were 3rd in the west in 2021

  • @Theterminato2013
    @Theterminato2013 Год назад +4

    4:22 “Moses became arguably the greatest rebounder in history!”
    Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain & Dennis Rodman: “Are we jokes to you?!”

    • @bachnguyenviet4289
      @bachnguyenviet4289 Год назад

      That's why there's the word "arguably'' lol

    • @Theterminato2013
      @Theterminato2013 Год назад +1

      @@bachnguyenviet4289 Doesn’t make it right, LMAO. 😂🤣.

  • @DeadPlayin
    @DeadPlayin Год назад

    you’re the only channel where i watch every video that comes out. your format is addictive tbh, lmao. i think joel deserves this mvp cause of his late season push and because he outplayed jokic when they played each other.

  • @sloaner404
    @sloaner404 Год назад +35

    I believe Jokic did this feat twice. His first mvp season they were third, and for his second they were sixth.

    • @timoandteo
      @timoandteo Год назад

      You are right!!!

    • @jackdempsey2497
      @jackdempsey2497 Год назад +4

      I still question that mvp season of his

    • @aquatazer
      @aquatazer Год назад +14

      @@jackdempsey2497 how? He carried a team to the play-offs just as much as Jordan did the Bulls, but you’re gonna discredit only Jokić‘s MVPs? Crazy talk man.

    • @iam-12345......
      @iam-12345...... Год назад +2

      @@aquatazer The first no, the second yes. The only way for a person to get a back-to-back MVP should be 1st not only in their conference but the league. That second back-to-back should be special, you must have outrageous stats, and the best record in the league.

    • @aquatazer
      @aquatazer Год назад +3

      @@iam-12345...... he did have outrageous stats, and you cannot honestly tell me that if he had a semblance of a good teammate the Nuggets wouldn’t have won more. Giannis has had legitimate All-Star and All-NBA players during his career when he’s done well. Jokić has never had one, yet still was the 1 seed in the West this season. Put aside your biased judging criteria and look at the facts.

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 Год назад +12

    Fantastic video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

  • @Berto717_
    @Berto717_ Год назад +1

    You know it’s a good day when Andy posts

  • @LessGo7921
    @LessGo7921 Год назад +18

    Yeaaa no MVP should ever win on a non playoff team imo 😂

    • @zotanica
      @zotanica Год назад +3

      Division rules kept them from making the playoffs, if they used current rules he would've made it(Haven't watched the video, assuming it's Kareem's MVP)

    • @LessGo7921
      @LessGo7921 Год назад

      @@zotanica I wrote it before the video. I had Luka getting 1 MVP vote in mind when writing it. Must’ve been a Mavs writer

    • @zotanica
      @zotanica Год назад

      @@LessGo7921 oh I feel you

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад

      @@LessGo7921 Would Luka receiving a vote in his 2022 season make sense?

  • @KarlMalowned32
    @KarlMalowned32 Год назад +23

    I don’t think an MVP winner should be lower than the 5 seed.
    I’m curious how many MVPs also won the scoring title that same year.

    • @bo_g4284
      @bo_g4284 Год назад +6

      Off the top of my head: at least Harden, Russ, Steph, KD, Jordan, Iverson

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma Год назад +7

      Shaq in 00 as well.

    • @seize3
      @seize3 Год назад +2

      That Westbrook year was insane. KD leaving brought up the talk of he could average a triple double, most said no including myself. I just thought there's no way you can do it in today's ball then he proved me wrong lol

    • @ognjengaric2687
      @ognjengaric2687 Год назад +5

      18 times was the MVP also the scoring leader.
      Bob Petit 1956, 1959
      Wilt 1960, 1966
      Kareem 1971, 1972
      Bob Mcadoo 1975
      Michael Jordan 1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998
      Shaq 2000
      AI 2001
      KD 2014
      Steph 2016
      Russ 2017
      James Harden 2018

  • @knection1986
    @knection1986 Год назад +31

    KP willed Embid into this MVP conversation and ppl are afraid to buck it in order to not appear rascist...

    • @UmbraCatervaeShadow0-1
      @UmbraCatervaeShadow0-1 Год назад

      Nice grammar wtf is a rascist
      I think you meant racist

    • @davidjr4903
      @davidjr4903 Год назад +13

      Yup, the amount of black racists is insane

    • @august6281
      @august6281 Год назад +3

      the real MVP. I mean KP😅

    • @westbrick6393
      @westbrick6393 Год назад

      KP himself is a racist

    • @tarunganesg9700
      @tarunganesg9700 Год назад +2

      Nah embiid literally had his best month while jokic had his worth month after that

  • @lonelyojisan1988
    @lonelyojisan1988 Год назад

    AndyHoops is my MVP on basketball youtube content.

  • @JLou1
    @JLou1 Год назад

    I love your background music you have in every video

  • @figo706
    @figo706 Год назад +1

    Yeah, you forgot someone. Jokic first MVP in 2020-2021. The Denver Nuggets finished 47-25 as the third seed.

  • @micahheyward5342
    @micahheyward5342 Год назад +2

    In the 2020-21 NBA season, Nikola Jokic won the MVP and the Denver Nuggets were 3rd in the West

  • @nbapbaupdate8338
    @nbapbaupdate8338 Год назад +2

    James Harden deserves MVP, but Russell Westbrook triple double season INSANE 🔥💪🔥

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 Год назад +1

    Great video Andy!! Thanks!

  • @danilobapista
    @danilobapista Год назад +6

    Nikola deserves a MVP this season

    • @zemljajeravna5336
      @zemljajeravna5336 Год назад +5

      Absolutely, he is more valuable, leading in every statistic and his team is top 5 defense in the league when he is playing. Also higher seed and played more games. Also won games against teams with other 2 candidates at the end of the season.

  • @andreisevostianov9525
    @andreisevostianov9525 Год назад

    5:27 I put Kareem as an MVP in 1979. Although, Moses was so close that it could easily be him. However, Gervin was only 7th, behind those two + Hayes, World B. Fee and Julius Erving.

  • @fortynights1513
    @fortynights1513 Год назад +1

    Out of curiosity, who is the best player you don’t see listed here.
    This is every player who finished top five in an MVP vote:
    ABA Players (24):
    Connie Hawkins
    Doug Moe
    Mel Daniels
    Larry Jones
    Willie Somerset
    Jimmy Jones
    Rick Barry
    Spencer Haywood
    Roger Brown
    Bob Verga
    Zelmo Beaty
    Charlie Scott
    Dan Issel
    Artis Gilmore
    Billy Cunningham
    Julius Erving
    George McGinnis
    Ron Boone
    Joe Caldwell
    Willie Wise
    Bobby Jones
    Mack Calvin
    James Silas
    David Thompson
    NBA Players (97):
    Bob Pettit
    Paul Arzin
    Bob Cousy
    Mel Hutchins
    Dolph Schayes
    Bill Sharman
    George Yardley
    Bill Russell
    Maurice Stokes
    Elgin Baylor
    Wilt Chamberlain
    Oscar Robertson
    Jerry West
    Sam Jones
    Jerry Lucas
    Nate Thurmond
    Lenny Wilkens
    Dave Bing
    Wes Unseld
    Willis Reed
    Kareem Abdul Jabaar
    Walt Frazier
    John Havlicek
    Dave Cowens
    Tiny Archibald
    Bob McAdoo
    Bob Lainer
    Elvin Hayes
    Bill Walton
    Pete Maravich
    George Gervin
    David Thompson
    Walter Davis
    Moses Malone
    Bob Dandridge
    Larry Bird
    Dennis Johnson
    Dan Roundfield
    Robert Parish
    Gus Williams
    Magic Johnson
    Sidney Moncrief
    Bernard King
    Isiah Thomas
    Terry Cummings
    Dominique Wilkins
    Hakeem Olajuwon
    Michael Jordan
    Kevin McHale
    Charles Barkley
    Clyde Drexler
    Karl Malone
    Patrick Ewing
    David Robinson
    Scottie Pippen
    Shaquille O’Neil
    Penny Hardaway
    Grant Hill
    Tim Hardaway
    Glen Rice
    Gary Payton
    Tim Duncan
    Alonzo Mourning
    Allen Iverson
    Jason Kidd
    Kevin Garnett
    Chris Webber
    Tracy McGrady
    Kobe Bryant
    Jermaine O’Neil
    Peja Stojakovic
    Steve Nash
    Dirk Nowitski
    LeBron James
    Chauncey Billups
    Chris Paul
    Dwight Howard
    Dwayne Wade
    Kevin Durant
    Derrick Rose
    Tony Parker
    Carmelo Anthony
    Blake Griffin
    Joakim Noah
    James Harden
    Stephen Curry
    Russell Westbrook
    Anthony Davis
    Kawhi Leonard
    Isaiah Thomas
    Damian Lillard
    Giannis Antetokounmpo
    Paul George
    Nikola Jokic
    Luka Doncic
    Joel Embid
    Devin Booker

    • @tj5180
      @tj5180 Год назад +1

      Dont know

  • @robertdominicceasarsalvill2221
    @robertdominicceasarsalvill2221 Год назад +4

    Man LeBron vs Harden in 2018 is so close.

    • @yourfriendlyneighbourhoodvue
      @yourfriendlyneighbourhoodvue Год назад +2

      Not even, Harden despite missing Chris Paul for many games was putting in historical numbers whilst leading the Rockets to best record in the league over the Warriors Superteam

    • @tj5180
      @tj5180 Год назад +3

      @@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodvue bron was carrying a horrible cavs team to the playoffs it was close.

  • @tmac731
    @tmac731 Год назад +1

    3:18 those division don’t even make sense. Cavs and the rockets are in the same division? Who tf is the kings?

  • @AirRusher1992
    @AirRusher1992 Год назад +4

    Russ is probably the best player on this list simply because of the triple-double narrative plus it was no coincidence he fell off after this.
    Malone is definitely the worst on this list. There's no way he should've won it over Timmy. No disrespect to others of course.

    • @tridra5714
      @tridra5714 Год назад

      shaq should have won mvp that year

    • @Cupidt9
      @Cupidt9 Год назад

      How tf did russ fall off? He is still good the lakers stint was bad but still would be a generational season for most players lol

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma Год назад

      Westbrook didn't completely fall off until the Lakers stint, he lost in the first round and he got a triple double so often it seemed normal. Add in Luka Doncic doing it often too and now no one cares about the milestone anymore.

  • @idealcommentary
    @idealcommentary Год назад

    Another banger bro

  • @acdcdave1387
    @acdcdave1387 Год назад

    I won't be mad if Embiid wins this year but I still think it should go to Jokic. He's basically averaging a triple double, shooting well over 60% from the field and led his team to the first seed in their conference. But if Embiid or even Giannis wins, I'll be happy for them too, all three had a terrific season

  • @MrReese
    @MrReese Год назад +6

    Jordan's '88 season is the best individual season of an NBA player of all time, people who say Bird or Magic should have gotten the MVP have no regard for reality. And Jordan was robbed of probably at least 2 more MVPs because of the "successful team" sentiment.

    • @jessbactar8728
      @jessbactar8728 Год назад

      best individual season is anyy season of wilt lol

    • @MrReese
      @MrReese Год назад

      ​@@jessbactar8728 Since most stats weren't available when Wilt was playing it's impossible to tell, but it was certainly not "every Wilt season". If you think Wilt's worst season is better than the best individual season of all time in basically every metric we know today then you are rather delusional ;).

    • @cuongquoc5877
      @cuongquoc5877 Год назад

      Lmao, Hakeem exist so shut up

  • @Zoekiki85
    @Zoekiki85 Год назад

    Good job Andy

  • @AustinHansen
    @AustinHansen Год назад

    1:40 I have to disagree. Team success shouldn’t be the most important criteria. Players can’t help it if management makes poor decisions. I get there’s an argument that they should make everyone around them better, but it’s so much deeper than that.

  • @christianjohnson2918
    @christianjohnson2918 Год назад +3

    As a Jokic fan, I honestly don’t have a problem with Embiid winning it. His reign at the end of the season won me over.

  • @hthrun
    @hthrun Год назад

    1:38 Not everyone. The best player in the league shouldn't be held back from winning an individual award if his teammates aren't good.

  • @davidjr4903
    @davidjr4903 Год назад +7

    emflopper cried his way to an award 😢😂

    • @Theterminato2013
      @Theterminato2013 Год назад

      @@TheCrypticKnight I’m dead ASF, LMAO 😂🤣

  • @6ix_dizzy
    @6ix_dizzy Год назад +2

    Love from Toronto 🩸

  • @nvm9040
    @nvm9040 Год назад +1

    80’s Jordan put his stats to drag his teams to the postseason before Pippen came into his own

  • @brettgordon5640
    @brettgordon5640 Год назад

    How’s going Andy!

  • @memearmy7197
    @memearmy7197 Год назад

    Very good video

  • @stuartmccleary
    @stuartmccleary Год назад +1

    Bron should have MVP and DMVP when he was in Miami tho

  • @chuco6010
    @chuco6010 Год назад +2

    You will never convince me Kareem deserved his ‘76 mvp 😭

    • @jackdempsey2497
      @jackdempsey2497 Год назад

      I mean.. i dnt think he did but it was other players who voted 4 him

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 Год назад

      He may have been the best player in general, but yeah, he didn’t have a very good case for the award.

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma Год назад +1

      The players at the time thought so.

  • @paksta
    @paksta Год назад +1

    Just thinking that Petit won MVP closer to Peach Basket-ball than today.

  • @nbapbaupdate8338
    @nbapbaupdate8338 Год назад +1

    Jaylen Brown your next video Andy Hoops 🙏🙏🙏

  • @andreisevostianov9525
    @andreisevostianov9525 Год назад

    11:28 yea, that was Harden’s year. Though, Russ was close imo.

  • @jakehopper930
    @jakehopper930 Год назад

    How's going Andy?

  • @AirRusher1992
    @AirRusher1992 Год назад

    Still waiting for 2 separate videos about the pre-LeBron Cavs and the new CBA.

    • @ND-OPS
      @ND-OPS Год назад

      What’s that?

    • @stpjosh
      @stpjosh Год назад

      @@ND-OPS couple years before lebron got to cleveland. 1995-2003. Then 2003-2010.

    • @AirRusher1992
      @AirRusher1992 Год назад

      @@ND-OPS I'm waiting for Andy make those 2 separate videos about the pre-LeBron Cavs and the new CBA agreed last March.

  • @lottoguy6457
    @lottoguy6457 Год назад +1

    Moses came from no where? He dominated the aba.

  • @seanhallett7156
    @seanhallett7156 Год назад

    Division rules are gone now right?

  • @liammclaughlin1129
    @liammclaughlin1129 Год назад

    Andy is coming

  • @videoanak5571
    @videoanak5571 Год назад +1

    Its most valuable PLAYER, not most valuable team member, its not his fault if the other cannot play well

  • @ddotmargiela8285
    @ddotmargiela8285 Год назад +1

    The NBA shouldn't have changed the MVP trophy 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @damianfonseca98
    @damianfonseca98 Год назад

    Westbrook also broke the record for most triple doubles in the season

  • @themindofmal
    @themindofmal 7 месяцев назад

    How the fuck were the rockets even considered to be in the East when Malone played

  • @ST-tf4sq
    @ST-tf4sq Год назад +1

    You make great reports, but this seasons MVP is a pity MVP... Joel plays great but always plays like 50 games. He scores 40+ in blowout games when the game is over already, he stat pads a lot. His defense is great but overall, offense amazing minus the flopping, because like 6 free throws per game out of his 12 are bogus calls where he cries and yells. Giannis, Jokic and Taytum deserve it more.. but Nba i pushing for embiid for some reason, when Jokic and Giannis won, no one cried this much, now Embiid and his team, coach, ESPN cries for him. Give him his MVP and be done with it... He wont ever have a chance because he will get injured...

    • @commentator245
      @commentator245 Год назад

      Personally, I'd want Jokic to win his third straight MVP... I mean the guy led his team to the top seed in the west. But, correct me if im wrong, if Embiid wins MVP,, is he the MVP with the least amount of games played in the regular season in NBA history with just 66? Lol

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma Год назад

      @@commentator245 No Bill Walton is.

    • @ST-tf4sq
      @ST-tf4sq Год назад

      @@commentator245 i honestly wouldnt mind if embiid was mvp like 3 years ago, he played little but his game wasnt dependable on flopping, he was literally running through people in the paint. Now he scores more because he flopps ans yells, literally ay least 2 calls every game he plays NO ONE TIUCHES HIM, he yells like he is getting raped and gets 2 free throws... I know his body isnt strong enough for him to play like giannis, but he should have takeed care of the body many years ago, but no he started some seqsons chubby... For me, this year he isnt mvp.. and people ignore the stad padding, whats the point if u score 20 out of your 40 when there is 25pts difference and other team is giving young kids and benchplayers minutes... But everyone ignores that. Plus he always has a great team, i do not know why they havent won ring already... Few years ago with jj reddick that team was ring worthy... But embiid got injured in playoff, and he looked chubby compared to today, so its his fault he got injured...

    • @commentator245
      @commentator245 Год назад

      @@ST-tf4sq not trying to defend Embiid or anything but Jokic has always been a chubby player his entire career😐

  • @slimypickle19
    @slimypickle19 Год назад

    I hate that narratives & analytics are the primary deciding factors in MVP races. If it were up to me, it would just be a good old fashion eye test & 1 question: Who's the best damn player in the NBA. It's that simple. Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, Lebron, & Giannis would all have more MVPs than they currently do.

  • @DFuture99
    @DFuture99 Год назад

    Joel Embiid has officially joined the list

  • @williamlee7672
    @williamlee7672 Год назад

    Don’t think anybody could argue Jordan 88 season.

  • @DKtrek21
    @DKtrek21 Год назад

    Spurs and Rockets in the East. My god, it seems so fake but I remember that NBA back then was weird af.

  • @arnoldjones2435
    @arnoldjones2435 Год назад

    The problem I have with MVP is that, the criteria changes too much. If lower seeded team can have an MVP than. Kobe should’ve won it when, he dragged that Lakers team to the 7th seed years ago. Then with Westbrook, how is Westbrook a stat padder but Jokic isn’t? Don’t get me started on with D-Rose won the award over LeBron. That was an all-time joke.

  • @AngelliSol
    @AngelliSol Год назад

    So okay, you can get the Playoffs in the 70 era per division record not by conference record.

  • @Robinhudloom
    @Robinhudloom Год назад

    Where is steve nash 2nd mvp?

  • @marvellis6762
    @marvellis6762 Год назад +1

    And the winner of them all and Grand MVP goes to........ Michael Jordan. 23

  • @fatboy5926
    @fatboy5926 Год назад

    Yeah the 99 season was a weird. A bit of a bubble year feel to it real but sorta not real feeling at the time. Karl’s MVP at the time wasn’t too controversial he was still great and his numbers were impacted 1 - but the weird ass shortened season but that combined with it being 1999 meant scores were down. 2020 bubble teams playing street all almost at times scores were up. I’d say Malone deserved that MVP. I think yeah his age but being the season after MJ retired - Jazz made the finals the previous 2 years and the Jazz come out and are still at or near the top? That helped Malone too

  • @jaguareagle7026
    @jaguareagle7026 Год назад +1

    Embiid deserves MVP

    • @zemljajeravna5336
      @zemljajeravna5336 Год назад +1

      Undeserved MVP only because vote fatigue and the media narrative

    • @jaguareagle7026
      @jaguareagle7026 Год назад

      @@zemljajeravna5336 Greatest scoring season by any player ever. By all the free throws it doesnt look like an mvp choice for mee

  • @gastonruiz4061
    @gastonruiz4061 3 месяца назад

    2017 was for Kawhi

  • @KZA518
    @KZA518 Год назад +1

    I feel like the 70’s is a kinda underrated era.. there were just 2 leagues with top talent

  • @joshuaarawole8589
    @joshuaarawole8589 Год назад +3

    The bias is real. When Jokic was the 6th seed you mention the fact that the other mvp candidates had a much better supporting cast. However, regarding Westbrook, you conveniently ignore the fact that his team was significantly worse than Harden’s rockets and even worse than Jokic’s supporting cast.

    • @panner11
      @panner11 Год назад

      Not really. Before that season, it was Harden's team that was projected to be worse. But the dantoni offense with guys like Ryan anderson worked well. Russ had oladipo and adams who were thought to be good talents next to Westbrook. But oladipo didn't mesh well with Russ ball dominance. And we saw the season after oladipos breakout most improved year. Russ doesn't elevate his teammates in the same way. A lot of those players post-russ turned out well in their careers, adams a rock for Memphis.
      Meanwhile, again nuggets second option last year was Barton. And Barton is already a bench warmer now.

    • @joshuaarawole8589
      @joshuaarawole8589 Год назад

      @@panner11 Stop it. Westbrook’s team was significantly worse than Harden’s. OKC had Alex Abrines, Ersan Ilyasova, Taj Gibson, Norris Cole, Nick Collison, Kyle Singler, Semaj Christon, Anthony Morrow, Joffrey Lauvernge. Sabonis was a rookie, Jerami Grant was still young and hadn’t developed yet, Andre Roberson (great defender, horrible on offense), Oladipo and Adams were ok and Enes Freedom was good on offense but a cone defensively. Harden’s roster was vastly superior to Westbrook’s thunder. Adams was better with Russ than he is with Memphis, Oladipo and the other younger players weren’t in their prime so obviously they’d be better later in their careers you dullard. Also, KD, PG, and Bradley Beal all had their best season with Russ. This also applies to Ibaka, Adams, and many other role players.

  • @jugadug
    @jugadug Год назад +1

    Practically kept nagging voters to give him the award

  • @gortgaming2960
    @gortgaming2960 Год назад +17

    harden shouldve been mvp in 2017

    • @zotanica
      @zotanica Год назад +4

      You know ball

    • @Maxjuliann
      @Maxjuliann Год назад +3

      Russ deserved it idc

    • @Chris1200923
      @Chris1200923 Год назад

      @@Maxjuliann shut up casual

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma Год назад +2

      If seeding matters that much than Jokic shouldn't have won last year imo.

    • @trevmorin
      @trevmorin Год назад

      Nah, real men know it's Kawhi Leonard

  • @chukarec
    @chukarec Год назад

    🏆🏆🏆, thats what i think

  • @falcon176
    @falcon176 Год назад +2

    2017: westbrook deserves the MVP cuz muh triple double!!!
    2018: well actually westbrook is stat padding to get the triple double (just like he was last year)

  • @SadfoxGuyver
    @SadfoxGuyver Год назад

    Carl is Fugazi

  • @thisisfaka
    @thisisfaka Год назад

    Kobe shoulda made it in 2006, trying to drag like hell those Kers to playoffs. Yeah I mispelled the name on purpose noticing how bad they were, as cheap as it gets. 35.4 5 and 4.5 an 81 and 62 in three quarters multiple 40 and 50 point games. What else? Damn

  • @justtimes9257
    @justtimes9257 Год назад +1

    bob macadoo was kd like before kd; people forget kareeem team was so trash with out him

    • @tj5180
      @tj5180 Год назад

      Mcadoo was underrated. 6'9 forward/ center who could score from anywhere and was a good rebounder. People also forget he played on the showtime lakers in the 80s

    • @justtimes9257
      @justtimes9257 Год назад

      @@tj5180 agreed man i wish people would appreciate him more plus if u wanna see player who was the orginal stretch 4 is mcadoo

  • @efaz4321
    @efaz4321 Год назад

    damn they really gave Karl Malone the MVP also known for him the Most Valuable Pedophile

  • @therealmitch3
    @therealmitch3 Год назад +2

    Embiid better send perkins a thank you basement for getting him that mvp.

  • @keqing311
    @keqing311 Год назад

    The greatest mvp of all time was jordan in 88

  • @edwardbiglang-awa7313
    @edwardbiglang-awa7313 Год назад

    Jokic 3 peat

  • @cazu2479
    @cazu2479 Год назад

    No I think Jokic is winning MVP again

  • @francisharding3837
    @francisharding3837 Год назад

    I like your content. But you gotta get your grammar right dude. Past and present tenses should not be confused

  • @滋榎本
    @滋榎本 Год назад

    The Royals went 55-25 in the 1963-1964 season, but Oscar Robertson won the season MVP in 1964

  • @theophilusjones6024
    @theophilusjones6024 Год назад

    Joel Embiidddddddd

  • @bradleydolphin1049
    @bradleydolphin1049 Год назад +1

    Westbrick the stat padder lol

  • @nonanimeprofilepic
    @nonanimeprofilepic Год назад

    Isiah thomas got robbed in 2017

  • @FHTV19
    @FHTV19 Год назад

    2020s gonna take that crown from the 70s

  • @paksta
    @paksta Год назад +1

    Harden should have won instead of Westbrook. Check everyone's predictions for Rockets when Dwight left.

    • @tj5180
      @tj5180 Год назад +2

      The thunder were also horrible. They would barely reach 20 games without russ. Even worse then the team russ had

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma Год назад +1

      @@tj5180 I doubt tank commander Oladipo and rookie Sabonis take that team past 20 games either.

  • @itsonlyfairtokc
    @itsonlyfairtokc Год назад

    The league should retire the number 23 #jordan

  • @johnnyr-518
    @johnnyr-518 Год назад

    I can't comment

  • @bowwow3991
    @bowwow3991 Год назад

    No offense but we all knew russ won that mvp because he had that historic trip dub season since big o, only to averaged trip dub again 3times

  • @ollies984
    @ollies984 Год назад

    Pretty much all of what you said about Moses malone in 1982 was false, he played for the 76ers at that point

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma Год назад +3

      No that was in 83.

    • @tj5180
      @tj5180 Год назад

      He joined the team in 1983 in a sign and trade

  • @goku..7
    @goku..7 Год назад

    Joel don’t deserve the mvp honestly

  • @TempoQuin
    @TempoQuin Год назад

    The last two still bogus to me. Should of been Harden 2017 and one of the other two in 2022. 6th seeds losing in the 1st round shouldn't be mvp if there's clearly a better candidate.

  • @SunilThapa-mh1yh
    @SunilThapa-mh1yh Год назад

    Jokic is the worst mvp of all time

    • @zemljajeravna5336
      @zemljajeravna5336 Год назад +3

      Best mvp of all time, best passer in the history of the mvp, most efficient player in the history of the nba.

  • @hoopingwithhamez
    @hoopingwithhamez Год назад

    first, havent even watched the video but i know it'll be great!

  • @cameronzoellick1077
    @cameronzoellick1077 Год назад

    Embiid doesn’t deserve it

  • @aaronlgr
    @aaronlgr Год назад

    Jokic didn’t deserve that MVP.