You can't mention the mavs run without mentioning the blazers. Their first round was unironically their hardest one. It gave us Roy's last vintage game. The blazers kind of woke the mavs up.
@@VincentVincent_89 ..You realize okc lost in 5, right? They did even worse than the blazers. The heat also lost in 6. Only the lakers gave them less trouble than okc.
They were an old team at the tail end of their prime and it took everything out of them but they did pull it off. They deserve every bit of respect but a repeat was never really on the table for them.
@@justhuy7960 most of the core was aging. They tried fixing that by signing guys like Carter and Odom who were shell of themselves and got monta Ellis who was good for them but not enough
Most Mavs fans aren’t mad about that, they’re mad about the lack of effort that Cuban made afterwards. It was almost like “Wooooh we did it! Let’s start blowing it up!” Getting Luka years later was the only good thing about them packing it in eventually.
Peja Stojaković also was on that 2011 roster, and acutally had pretty decent role in the rotation. In finals he lost rotation spot but until finals, he was pretty important for them with his shooting. I think he is worth mentioning.
As passionate for the game as Mark Cuban is it's hard not to note he just goes from mistake to mistake. Even now he has Luka a superstar and can't build a competent supporting cast to make them legit title contenders.
He also missed on Giannis in 2013 draft, while Don Nelson insisted on drafting him at the 13th pick. If it truly happened, Mavs might have won another title or two by now. Cuban is incompetent, yet he is not self aware and trusting the professionals. He keeps on messing up with things to, perhaps, express his desire to control things?
@@antonfeng1434 even if he drafted giannis, cuban will still find a way to mess it up lmao... Let go of nash Let go of chandler 2x Signing / trading for players that are pass their primes or doesn't fit their system
@@antonfeng1434 nah, even if they drafted Giannis, they’d still likely be ringless because he’d be too stingy and incompetent to surround him with reliable talent
That Mavs team just peaked at the right time and had the right handful of vets who wanted it. And they were against a cocky juggernaut in Miami that was just vulnerable enough. It’s was the perfect team meets the perfect timing. It solidified Dirk as an all timer.
History is repeating itself, Mark Cuban is failing to build around Luka Doncic. He let Jalen Brunson walk in free agency to the New York Knicks who are once again reaping the benefits of Cubans mistakes. Meanwhile Cubans eyes are dead set on top market names like Kyrie Irving instead of getting the most value for his money and for his team.
Getting Kyrie now could be the only way for Dallas to get a star player next to Luka tbf. They don't have that many picks and they're not super interesting for teams and they clearly won't be able to land anybody in FA. Getting Kyrie was a risky move but they probably need risky moves that pay off now if they don't want Luka to leave
Based on this I predict that Kyrie will walk in free agency. Cuban will then blame their failures on Irving and Irving’s decisions. Cuban will attempt to retool around Luka thinking he can recapture what he once had but he’s now lost 4 starting players and two 1st round draft picks, I don’t see how you build a team from that.
@@sakamalaRL They didn't really have any other options tbf, Kyrie only became available in february. If Kyrie stays well I think it's a pretty great trade since it's easier to get 1 or 2 good defenders to balance the starting lineup than getting 1 All-NBA guard
They werent even supposed to win that one to begin with. Lebron folded like a cheap suit. Dude was not engaged at all. Mavs got lucky and nobody really acknowledges it bcus of that
@@Aintstunyoahh LeBron James didn't play championship basketball that series.. It was so strange.. but you can't take nothing away from Dirk and the Mavs.. They recognized and capitalized on LeBron James and The Heat struggling.. To be honest Mark Cuban would have been the blame anyways if Dirk didn't win a ring.. Mark Cuban has more than enough money to bring in another Superstar but he didn't do that with Dirk which robbed him of multi Championships anyways.. Mark Cuban wasted Dirk's prime for real.. and Mark is doing it with Luka now..
Even though they didn’t, this was a legendary team man!! Beating teams with elite players and managing to squeeze one title in the middle of the Spurs, Lakers, and a young OKC team!! And finally beating that Heat team!!
They werent supposed to beat the Heat thats why nobody talks about it or praises them as much. If Lebron doesnt play like his powers got taken away then the Heat win that one easy
@@Aintstunyoahh It felt like some Space Jam type of sh_t going on with LeBron James in that series.. It's like he forgot how to play basketball like the Monstars took his powers away, it was so strange..
@@Aintstunyoahh The Mavs were a missed shot from Dirk at the end of Game 3 from winning the 2011 Finals in 5 games. The Mavs beat the Heat 6 out of 8 times they played them that season.
They were already getting really old in 2011. Losing Chandler & all the bench depth was HUGE. They were equivalent to the late 90s Jazz. Very experienced & skilled, but when age took them, that was it. There was no stopping the younger teams after 2011.
Got to say, your videos as of late have been nothing short of superb Andy, particularly the ones where you individually dissect a player/team and give proper in depth analysis of whatever the video at hand pertains. Keep up the amazing content 💙
Kinda funny because now Cuban is hoping free agents choose Luka over "team" as he puts it. The Dwight signing also didn't work for Houston since he opted out of there not long after and went to the hawks.
If you look at the data, they were an absolute statistical anomaly in that championship year. The right shots fell at the right time, and they were a good enough team that it put them over.
The Mavericks struck while the iron was hot. They had the perfect mix of veterans around Dirk who had all experienced playoff success, but no championships. It was a hungry group that was well put together. The Lakers were in decline after winning the previous two titles, the Thunder were still very young, and the Heat needed a season to fully figure out how the Big Three fit together and what kind of players they needed around them. I all but knew Dallas was going to win it all when they swept the Lakers in the conference semis.
@@Damianoutlawexactly people expected Lakers to easily beat Dallas cause how many times we seen them choke and Lakers was the Champs with same record as Dallas..People try to down play the Lakers that season like they were trash, DALLAS STOMPED THEM and even hard-core Lakers fans was shocked and big choke job
Moral of the story is that teams shouldn't build around old superstars. They should naturally accept veterans role and step aside smoothly for younger generation. Right now in the same conference we can see a recurrence of this story.
Even if the Mavs brought Chandler back, I don't think they would have repeated. It was a shorten locked out season and during the off season, Dirk was living it up and didn't really come into basketball shape until the middle of the season. I'm sure they wouldn't have been in a lower seed and had to face the Thunder in the first round, which was still a hard fought sweep. They would probably to in the middle of the pack and possibly made it past the 1st round.
Ngl, it makes sense Cuban was trying to sign Howard. Also, Harden was not in Houston until 2012-2013. With Howard in the paint (who still was a competent floor spacer), with a lethal shooter like Dirk outside, would have been fun to watch. But, due to the injuries of DH at that time, i would say they would have like just 2 years* to win it all again.
2 Words Mark Cuban. He let Steve Nash go for nothing in 2004 & he wind up winning back to back MVPs. He let Michael Finley go & next year in 2005 he won the NBA title.
It was Deron Williams Cuban wanted. Then Dwight. He blew up a championship team so he can chase a couple of coach killers. And I remember him talking arrogantly about his decision. I also remember the dismayed look on Marion's face when he was asked about Chandler not being re-signed at the beginning of the 2012 season. I don't think they would've repeated but they definitely would've finished in a more respectful way than 7 seed and getting swept in the first round. What Cuban, and everyone who agreed with him, did to that team is disgraceful.
I’m not even a religious guy but that run felt like something was in the air. Guys like Jason Terry and Shawn Marion hitting countless clutch shots.. I remember as a Blazer fan in the first round thinking, we’re playing amazing defense how are they hitting these ridiculously difficult shots consistently?! And they continued to make them all the way through the finals.. That was Dirks year it felt like it was destined to happen.. Wish Damian Lillard will have a year similar soon but not counting on it..
the hubris of Cuban was the downfall. getting rid of chandler for the potential 'big fish' was a massive mistake. dirk always needed a center who could rebound and defend. such a shame
After that run, the Mavs tanked. As a fan, it was sad to see how the Mavs looked. The NBA moved on and the Mavs just couldn’t keep up. It was truly a special year as a fan we all felt like the next year we weren’t going to be able to repeat
it was more than chandler, and I remember cuban even saying that the team had no chance (it was a lock out season) so he was not even gonna try... more than a decade later still choking and taking bad decisions and calling them "analitics"
Felt sorry for Vince Carter. He always seemed to come to teams that either won the Championship or made it to the Finals a year later. Happened to the Nets, Magic, and the Mavs.
They wasn’t suppose to win the year before. Credit to dirk that year he showed what a true stretch post look like not thes spot ups we have now. That dirk leg is nasty
This is exactly the state of Mavs in now too. They lack a defensive big. They have dwight powell who is not even tall. They get destroyed at the paint and Luka is their best rebounder which shouldn't be. They need a Tyson Chandler to be contenders.
Lots of people saying they wouldn’t have repeated. Lots of people also said they couldn’t win in 2011. One thing is certain, if you instantly dismantle a championship team, you don’t have a championship team anymore.
2011-12 was also the lockout year with the delayed start, short pre-season and back-to-back-to-backs. With an old roster, they pretty much gave up on that year.
Ah thank you, my friend for fulfilling my request. If Secret Base have their own perspective about this, then now it's Andy who needs to breakdown his own perspective. This should be a lesson for Mark Cuban but at least on the brightside Donnie Nelson is no longer there anymore and he has no right to file a lawsuit against the Mavs.
Thompson was the perfect center for Dirk Nowitzki not being a traditional power forward. He was a bruiser who protected the rim that’s what they needed
Letting Tyson go is what really messed it up he was the anchor to our defense and the other key contributors that he let go. I remember I was mad at Mark Cuban for that
Crazy how cuban can waste two generational European player's prime years. First Dirk and now Luka. Cuban has been consistently good, but not great. That's why he only got one ring with Dirk's greatness. Didn't resign Steve Nash, just let Jaylen Brunson walk, traded for Kayne irving(who is on a expiring contract and can walk) by giving up Dinwiddie, the best defender on the team in Dorian Finney Smith as well as future picks. You can't build a culture if you let your homegrown talents walk, Brunson developed from a 2nd round pick, and D.F.S. developed from being undrafted. For a state that has no income tax, cuban still struggles getting top FA's. Now Luka's love for the game is disappearing and luka recently said he isnt having fun anymore. Kanye Irving is going to get most of the blame when the mavs flame out early in the playoffs, but it's cuban who's been f*cking up, and waste prime years of generational stars.
It was so fun watching their Finals run. Dirk was a monster and everyone did their jobs greatly. Such beautiful basketball. I was around eleven to thirteen and don't remember much, but I do remember Dirk's, JJ and Jason Terry's moments.
Chandler staying with the Mavs would've been a much more respectable exit. But an exit nonetheless. It's just as you said the, West had gotten a lot better in 2012.
That even 5 year span was so much fun. Before it was just two teams. If kahwii didnt get hurt the spurs totally would have competed till timmy retired.
Losing chandler in the off season really hurt them. They weren’t able to get back to the level defensively that they were when they won and that cost them in the 2012 playoffs. Luckily Chandler came back a few years later but the roster wasn’t the same and Dirk was older.
@@powerbadpowerbad Dirk was a good defensive player from 2004 until 2012. He was unstoppable on offense and beat all of his peers (Except Shaq) in the playoffs.
Simple reason, Kawhi didn't want to stay. The following year was really good though. We got the 2nd seed and almost beat the Celtics. Pascal was playing out of his mind the following year.
@@n1c530 so Mavs did the same thing like Raptors in 2018 right ? acquired an almost free agency player for one championship, then he probably leaves next season 😂
I remember no one gave this Maverick team a chance to get far, nobody excepted them to get out of the first round against Portland. But when they beat Portland and then swept the Lakers, then people took them seriously.
I was a warriors fan as kid and new a little about ball about players. Ofc new about mj ai kobe n lebron. I always heard about dirk in elemenatary school and saw a warriors vs mavs game on tv on a saturday and wow dirk was just a cool dude. Wanted him to win so bad for the west cuz my dubs were so ass in the 2000s lol. When i graduated 6th grade in 2011 and found out the mavs where in the finals and won later on that. I enjoyed my summer knowin dirk got his chip
As a Mavs fan, the only true loss was Tyson Chandler. If we kept him, we wouldn’t have been bounced out so quickly. We weren’t gonna repeat with the Thunder being better and the Spurs still being good at the time.
Jalen Brunson averaged 8 ppg on 45% shooting in the 2021 playoff series loss to the Clippers. He had a great year in a contract season and left. But he did not deserve a long term deal after his disastrous 2021 playoff run.
It's cool to have an owner that's involved but there's such a thing as too involved. Cuban trying to make his best player his best friend is a bit oof to me.
In other words, if the Mavs didn’t win it all in 2011, Dirk would have been mentioned with those all-time greats who stayed with one team their entire careers but never won a ring: John Stockton, Reggie Miller, and Elgin Baylor.
I remember Dallas got BLASTED by the Lakers a month before the playoffs so when the season was over pundits thought they were the weakest team in the playoffs. The new salary cap rules that were instituted in 2011 made it harder for teams like Dallas to spend more money since they weren’t going to attract big name free agents.
Tyson Chandler was huge and I always thought that was their downfall and like many other teams that went deep in playoff somehow don't value their defensive presence as much, earlier days of the bucks on Brogdon and some teams on PJ Tucker etc. Then again I realize Peja retired and also J.J. Barea and Deshawn was huge too which they didn't retain. It would also be nice to wonder if Howard did went during the first or second wooing how would they turn out although the first stint Howard was still recovering from shoulder injury and forced to play at the Lakers, I'm sure the same would happen if he went to the Mavs since they wanna push during Dirk's twilight.
The 2010-11 Mavericks were a full and complete team. Plenty of veteran players and depth on the bench, with an entire team of guys who knew that it takes every player to make a difference and win. You just don't see that type of mindset these days, and Cuban getting rid of Chandler just for the hope of Dwight Howard was the immediate drop off. You spend an entire season fighting against the super team mentality and win a championship, just to fall victim to it and watch the franchise crumble. A horrid decision by Cuban, but it makes me even happier that Dirk and the players around him seized their chance when they had it in front of them.
Mark Cuban's biggest weakness as a owner has always been acting like Dallas is LA or NY He's always expected free agents to bail him out and he creates cap space for players who never wanna go to Dallas. Dwight Howard made a good decision going to the Rockets, it's not his fault that Mark Cuban created a plan that involves him going to Dallas. He did the exact same thing with Jalen Brunson, Cuban was so confident that Brunson would resign, so he chose not to extend him early on. Obviously Brunson is gonna choose New York over Dallas, especially when they offered more money.
I'm a Mavs fan i don't believe they would have went back to back if they signed Chandler, but that being said Chandler complimented Dirk so well on the court! He should have been signed for that alone!
Mavericks went 58-24, 60-22 and 67-15 in the 3 years after they let Steve Nash walk. They lost the NBA finals in 2006 and won it all in 2011. Steve Nash never made it to the Finals.
I believe Mavs knows that was their last chance to win the championship as their team were really old. After winning the championship, they were looking for another go-to guy to come along with old Dirk. But it wasn’t successful and wait until Luka came to the team!
My college friend still owes me a case of beer because of the 2011 Mavs. After they swept the Lakers I bet him a case of beer they'd beat the Heat in 6. I won the bet Jon! Pay me my beer! You owe interest 12 years later bro.
2000s Mavs are kinda like the current Sixers, constantly looking like contenders but falling short, waiting for the year everything comes together for a title
Only 3 Franchises in NBA history have won 50 games for 10 straight seasons. 1. Showtime Lakers 2. 2000's Spurs 3. 2000-2011 Mavericks. All these teams won the title.
True they just had the best player in the league, a top 5 player in the league in D wade and a top 10 player in Bosh And they breezed through the Eastern conference with 50+ wins. They were sooooooo bad lmao
This is the same problem with the current Mavs. They don't have a good defensive center. Like they alergic to bigs. Instead of getting one, they traded for another ball dominant guard instead 🤣
The most impressive thing about their title run is not beating the Miami Heat but sweeping the defending champion Lakers. From then on I know they will beat the Miami Heat in the Finals.
The Show that is a horrible way to compare teams. The 2011 Miami Heat would have lost to the 2011 Lakers for the same reason they lost to the Mavs. They were too small. The Lakers front court would be too big for Miami.
@@Damianoutlaw that frontcourt didn't matter. The Lakers never beat the Heat during the regular season because Chris Bosh are feasting those Laker bigs also during those games Gasol and Bynum struggles.
@@kl2389 The Mavs, Spurs and Lakers would have all beaten the 2011 Miami Heat in the Finals. The Miami Heat would have lost to the Lakers for the same reason they lost to the Mavericks. 1. Too Small 2. Not enough depth 3. not enough great shooters.
The real reason is that Cuban decided to go after Dwight Howard so he didn't resign alot of the guys on the roster to go for a repeat. Instead he went budget to make caproom for Howard and he went elsewhere.
You can't mention the mavs run without mentioning the blazers. Their first round was unironically their hardest one. It gave us Roy's last vintage game. The blazers kind of woke the mavs up.
Yea every series I thought they would get knocked out cause they choked so hard in 07 against the warriors
Damn, didn't think you'd be here but i'm glad. 😅
Big fan of the channel man.
That’s a lie dude the blazers lost in like 6 lol they weren’t the toughest the toughest was OKC
@@VincentVincent_89 ..You realize okc lost in 5, right? They did even worse than the blazers. The heat also lost in 6. Only the lakers gave them less trouble than okc.
@@Jarekthegamingdragon it was a very very tough 5 games
They were an old team at the tail end of their prime and it took everything out of them but they did pull it off. They deserve every bit of respect but a repeat was never really on the table for them.
like for real, even had Chandler stayed, they wouldn't have won another
@@justhuy7960 at least they wouldn't have been bounced in the first round
@@justhuy7960 most of the core was aging. They tried fixing that by signing guys like Carter and Odom who were shell of themselves and got monta Ellis who was good for them but not enough
Most Mavs fans aren’t mad about that, they’re mad about the lack of effort that Cuban made afterwards. It was almost like “Wooooh we did it! Let’s start blowing it up!” Getting Luka years later was the only good thing about them packing it in eventually.
@@avantesmith6442 yet they still repeat the same mistake years later by not putting offers on the table for brunson to provide help for luka, yikes
Peja Stojaković also was on that 2011 roster, and acutally had pretty decent role in the rotation. In finals he lost rotation spot but until finals, he was pretty important for them with his shooting. I think he is worth mentioning.
I think he got injured prior to the finals that yr
@@williefaulker he's actually slowing down and cannot keep up the pace like how Dirk was when retiring.
At least he got a ring
The game with the lakers where they broke the record in most 3s in a playoff game. that's with peja puting 21 points off the bench
Yeah, way more clutch and reliable than his Kings Playoffs days, or NOLA
It wasn't just Chandler Cuban also let go of Deshaun Stevenson and jj barea as well who were big contributors!
Cuban not the gm tho
@@diegosmurillo he’s not but he’s the owner who literally
makes all the final say in decision making
@Diego S. Murillo he is the overseer. The owner gives final approval.
@@diegosmurillo Cuban has been the most involved and at times meddling team owner in the NBA for over 20 years
Plus not bringing back Caron Butler.... and literally every guy they brought in to replace those spots in the rotation turned out to be a dud
As passionate for the game as Mark Cuban is it's hard not to note he just goes from mistake to mistake. Even now he has Luka a superstar and can't build a competent supporting cast to make them legit title contenders.
He also missed on Giannis in 2013 draft, while Don Nelson insisted on drafting him at the 13th pick. If it truly happened, Mavs might have won another title or two by now. Cuban is incompetent, yet he is not self aware and trusting the professionals. He keeps on messing up with things to, perhaps, express his desire to control things?
The mavs need a big man or at least a forward to help doncic, not someone to replace him when he goes to the bench or play exactly like him
@@antonfeng1434 even if he drafted giannis, cuban will still find a way to mess it up lmao...
Let go of nash
Let go of chandler 2x
Signing / trading for players that are pass their primes or doesn't fit their system
@@antonfeng1434 nah, even if they drafted Giannis, they’d still likely be ringless because he’d be too stingy and incompetent to surround him with reliable talent
@@CovidVirgin Agreed!
Dirk's one-legged fadeaway is one of the most beautiful shots ever. So smooth.
That Mavs team just peaked at the right time and had the right handful of vets who wanted it. And they were against a cocky juggernaut in Miami that was just vulnerable enough. It’s was the perfect team meets the perfect timing. It solidified Dirk as an all timer.
Wade and bron mocked dirk getting sick
Yeah it was perfect timing for them. If the Heat had a better chemistry they could've won it.
Heat had no bench and relied too much on Bron and Wade. Didn’t help that Chris Bosh was terrible that series too
History is repeating itself, Mark Cuban is failing to build around Luka Doncic. He let Jalen Brunson walk in free agency to the New York Knicks who are once again reaping the benefits of Cubans mistakes. Meanwhile Cubans eyes are dead set on top market names like Kyrie Irving instead of getting the most value for his money and for his team.
Getting Kyrie now could be the only way for Dallas to get a star player next to Luka tbf. They don't have that many picks and they're not super interesting for teams and they clearly won't be able to land anybody in FA. Getting Kyrie was a risky move but they probably need risky moves that pay off now if they don't want Luka to leave
Based on this I predict that Kyrie will walk in free agency. Cuban will then blame their failures on Irving and Irving’s decisions. Cuban will attempt to retool around Luka thinking he can recapture what he once had but he’s now lost 4 starting players and two 1st round draft picks, I don’t see how you build a team from that.
@@adama2292 Cuban could’ve ensured he stick around for more then half a season before giving up so much for him though.
@@sakamalaRL They didn't really have any other options tbf, Kyrie only became available in february. If Kyrie stays well I think it's a pretty great trade since it's easier to get 1 or 2 good defenders to balance the starting lineup than getting 1 All-NBA guard
Getting Kyrie meets the "Luka wants a star" quota and it is an experiment to see if this duo will work too
I was very happy when Dirk Nowitzki won the championship ring in 2011.
I don’t think anybody expected them to repeat even their fans
They werent even supposed to win that one to begin with. Lebron folded like a cheap suit. Dude was not engaged at all. Mavs got lucky and nobody really acknowledges it bcus of that
@@Aintstunyoahh LeBron James didn't play championship basketball that series.. It was so strange.. but you can't take nothing away from Dirk and the Mavs.. They recognized and capitalized on LeBron James and The Heat struggling.. To be honest Mark Cuban would have been the blame anyways if Dirk didn't win a ring.. Mark Cuban has more than enough money to bring in another Superstar but he didn't do that with Dirk which robbed him of multi Championships anyways.. Mark Cuban wasted Dirk's prime for real.. and Mark is doing it with Luka now..
@@kenrickkahn yeah cuban is cheap...
@@Aintstunyoahh yeah lebron sold that series in my eyes... Could had 3peated in miami smh
If luka doesn't leave dallas he'll end up like those ringless hof
Monta Ellis on the mavericks was a monster in 2K
Naw these facts
Despite not repeating, I was happy for them to win it all in 2011 and get a sweet revenge against the Heat back in 2006.
Peja's revenge too against Kobe
@@icedcoffeecapricorn Scott Pollard also got his revenge vs the Lakers in 2008 as the member of the Celtics.
I’m sorry but the 2006 one was much sweeter. Young Wade kicked their asses and it was great to witness
@@stevensmith8977 not way than the veteran mavericks destroying the superteam heat
@@stevensmith8977 you mean, ref kicked mavs asses?
Even though they didn’t, this was a legendary team man!! Beating teams with elite players and managing to squeeze one title in the middle of the Spurs, Lakers, and a young OKC team!! And finally beating that Heat team!!
True. They were able to do something their counterpart, the Nash era Suns weren’t able to do
They werent supposed to beat the Heat thats why nobody talks about it or praises them as much. If Lebron doesnt play like his powers got taken away then the Heat win that one easy
@@Aintstunyoahh It felt like some Space Jam type of sh_t going on with LeBron James in that series.. It's like he forgot how to play basketball like the Monstars took his powers away, it was so strange..
@@Aintstunyoahh exactly 💯 the heat were supposed to win but LeBron James didn't step up.
@@Aintstunyoahh The Mavs were a missed shot from Dirk at the end of Game 3 from winning the 2011 Finals in 5 games. The Mavs beat the Heat 6 out of 8 times they played them that season.
As a mavs fan for almost two decades now… thank you for making a video on this team… best title run of all time and made Dirk an all time player
They were already getting really old in 2011. Losing Chandler & all the bench depth was HUGE. They were equivalent to the late 90s Jazz. Very experienced & skilled, but when age took them, that was it. There was no stopping the younger teams after 2011.
Wrong
Got to say, your videos as of late have been nothing short of superb Andy, particularly the ones where you individually dissect a player/team and give proper in depth analysis of whatever the video at hand pertains. Keep up the amazing content 💙
Kinda funny because now Cuban is hoping free agents choose Luka over "team" as he puts it. The Dwight signing also didn't work for Houston since he opted out of there not long after and went to the hawks.
If you look at the data, they were an absolute statistical anomaly in that championship year. The right shots fell at the right time, and they were a good enough team that it put them over.
The Mavericks struck while the iron was hot. They had the perfect mix of veterans around Dirk who had all experienced playoff success, but no championships. It was a hungry group that was well put together. The Lakers were in decline after winning the previous two titles, the Thunder were still very young, and the Heat needed a season to fully figure out how the Big Three fit together and what kind of players they needed around them. I all but knew Dallas was going to win it all when they swept the Lakers in the conference semis.
How were the lakers in decline?
They went 57-25 in 2009-10 season.
They went 57-25 in the 2010-11 season.
@@Damianoutlawexactly people expected Lakers to easily beat Dallas cause how many times we seen them choke and Lakers was the Champs with same record as Dallas..People try to down play the Lakers that season like they were trash, DALLAS STOMPED THEM and even hard-core Lakers fans was shocked and big choke job
Dirk talked about how it felt weird to play after winning a ring he lowkey checked out after that cuz it took him so long to get it
Moral of the story is that teams shouldn't build around old superstars. They should naturally accept veterans role and step aside smoothly for younger generation. Right now in the same conference we can see a recurrence of this story.
Even if the Mavs brought Chandler back, I don't think they would have repeated. It was a shorten locked out season and during the off season, Dirk was living it up and didn't really come into basketball shape until the middle of the season. I'm sure they wouldn't have been in a lower seed and had to face the Thunder in the first round, which was still a hard fought sweep. They would probably to in the middle of the pack and possibly made it past the 1st round.
They shouldn't have let Tyson Chandler go. He was huge for protecting the paint
Ngl, it makes sense Cuban was trying to sign Howard. Also, Harden was not in Houston until 2012-2013. With Howard in the paint (who still was a competent floor spacer), with a lethal shooter like Dirk outside, would have been fun to watch. But, due to the injuries of DH at that time, i would say they would have like just 2 years* to win it all again.
2 Words Mark Cuban. He let Steve Nash go for nothing in 2004 & he wind up winning back to back MVPs. He let Michael Finley go & next year in 2005 he won the NBA title.
Another banger yet again 💪💪🙏🙏
It was Deron Williams Cuban wanted. Then Dwight. He blew up a championship team so he can chase a couple of coach killers. And I remember him talking arrogantly about his decision. I also remember the dismayed look on Marion's face when he was asked about Chandler not being re-signed at the beginning of the 2012 season. I don't think they would've repeated but they definitely would've finished in a more respectful way than 7 seed and getting swept in the first round. What Cuban, and everyone who agreed with him, did to that team is disgraceful.
The 2011 run was miraculous and not repeatable anyway. Plus, they pretty much dissemble the team right after.
I’m not even a religious guy but that run felt like something was in the air. Guys like Jason Terry and Shawn Marion hitting countless clutch shots.. I remember as a Blazer fan in the first round thinking, we’re playing amazing defense how are they hitting these ridiculously difficult shots consistently?! And they continued to make them all the way through the finals.. That was Dirks year it felt like it was destined to happen.. Wish Damian Lillard will have a year similar soon but not counting on it..
The lockout screwed up this Mavs team, too.
You hit the head on the nail with this video I enjoyed this took me back in time
One of the factor why mavs wont make it to the playoff 2023, the anchor d inside.
Excellent video as always, thanks Andy!
the hubris of Cuban was the downfall. getting rid of chandler for the potential 'big fish' was a massive mistake. dirk always needed a center who could rebound and defend. such a shame
After that run, the Mavs tanked. As a fan, it was sad to see how the Mavs looked. The NBA moved on and the Mavs just couldn’t keep up. It was truly a special year as a fan we all felt like the next year we weren’t going to be able to repeat
it was more than chandler, and I remember cuban even saying that the team had no chance (it was a lock out season) so he was not even gonna try... more than a decade later still choking and taking bad decisions and calling them "analitics"
Love this content
Fact that actually one important center can change the whole run for the mavs is impressive say the less ngl Tyson chandler is a good center
Felt sorry for Vince Carter. He always seemed to come to teams that either won the Championship or made it to the Finals a year later. Happened to the Nets, Magic, and the Mavs.
They wasn’t suppose to win the year before. Credit to dirk that year he showed what a true stretch post look like not thes spot ups we have now. That dirk leg is nasty
This is exactly the state of Mavs in now too. They lack a defensive big. They have dwight powell who is not even tall. They get destroyed at the paint and Luka is their best rebounder which shouldn't be. They need a Tyson Chandler to be contenders.
What's a center you think the Mavs should get?
Lots of people saying they wouldn’t have repeated. Lots of people also said they couldn’t win in 2011. One thing is certain, if you instantly dismantle a championship team, you don’t have a championship team anymore.
one of the most impressive finals win led by Dirk defeating the big 3 Bron, Wade and Bosh
They were underdogs in 2011. No one expected lil JJ Barea to shut down Lebron
2011-12 was also the lockout year with the delayed start, short pre-season and back-to-back-to-backs. With an old roster, they pretty much gave up on that year.
Ah thank you, my friend for fulfilling my request. If Secret Base have their own perspective about this, then now it's Andy who needs to breakdown his own perspective.
This should be a lesson for Mark Cuban but at least on the brightside Donnie Nelson is no longer there anymore and he has no right to file a lawsuit against the Mavs.
Thompson was the perfect center for Dirk Nowitzki not being a traditional power forward. He was a bruiser who protected the rim that’s what they needed
Letting Tyson go is what really messed it up he was the anchor to our defense and the other key contributors that he let go. I remember I was mad at Mark Cuban for that
Jason Terry was on fire in the Finals. I was so upset as a Heat fan, but respected them for that performance.
Crazy how cuban can waste two generational European player's prime years. First Dirk and now Luka. Cuban has been consistently good, but not great. That's why he only got one ring with Dirk's greatness. Didn't resign Steve Nash, just let Jaylen Brunson walk, traded for Kayne irving(who is on a expiring contract and can walk) by giving up Dinwiddie, the best defender on the team in Dorian Finney Smith as well as future picks. You can't build a culture if you let your homegrown talents walk, Brunson developed from a 2nd round pick, and D.F.S. developed from being undrafted. For a state that has no income tax, cuban still struggles getting top FA's. Now Luka's love for the game is disappearing and luka recently said he isnt having fun anymore. Kanye Irving is going to get most of the blame when the mavs flame out early in the playoffs, but it's cuban who's been f*cking up, and waste prime years of generational stars.
Nice breakdown
another saturday, another andy hoops masterpiece
It was so fun watching their Finals run. Dirk was a monster and everyone did their jobs greatly. Such beautiful basketball. I was around eleven to thirteen and don't remember much, but I do remember Dirk's, JJ and Jason Terry's moments.
That was a great playoff run and I'm glad they beat the Heat that year.
Chandler will go down as one of the more under appreciated players of our generation if you look back he had a hell of a career quietly
All he did was catch-LOBS. LOL.He was a starter for Dallas and didn't even get 10 boards a game,a very weak rebounder.
@@powerbadpowerbadBruh, He literally has a DPOY
@@powerbadpowerbadand also, He was the Mavs' Best Center and He fit well with Dirk
Chandler staying with the Mavs would've been a much more respectable exit. But an exit nonetheless. It's just as you said the, West had gotten a lot better in 2012.
It was insane how much people underrated the 2011 mavs people thought the blazers were gonna knock em out 1st round
Imagine if the Blazers had a healthy Roy and Oden tho
@@LessGo7921 they were fucked regardless Roy did play though not healthy but still
@@LessGo7921 they also had Aldridge and likely dame would get drafted.
@@scizorbullet8185 Right. Roy had one good game despite being unhealthy.
I read about this in an article that Cuban blew up their roster after they won a championship because of financial flexibility
its was the perfect storm of talent/age/hunger that made it work.
Tyson Chandler is an all-time underrated center, he should be enshrined in Springfield one day.
Lmao no
Hell no
If Westbrick and someone like Lowry or even Iggy then yea. He may get in no matter what tho they already have Yao, TMac and CWebb
You’re high 💀
Lol
That even 5 year span was so much fun. Before it was just two teams. If kahwii didnt get hurt the spurs totally would have competed till timmy retired.
the best ring of all time and he should’ve won in 06
Cuban and wanted cal space for upcoming free agent classes
Always following here in the Philippines
You caught my attention with this one I’m a die hard mavs fan
Losing chandler in the off season really hurt them. They weren’t able to get back to the level defensively that they were when they won and that cost them in the 2012 playoffs. Luckily Chandler came back a few years later but the roster wasn’t the same and Dirk was older.
Tyson Chandler’s turnaround from a huge bust to a DPOY and essential part of a title was pretty under appreciated
Crazy that they also lost Caron Butler for the season in 2011 and still won championship. He was ballin before injury.
I'm a Bulls fan but I love Dirk. He's got that Texas toughness
What toughness,Dirk was very-SOFT-on defense.2011 season and playoffs was the only time I saw him play hard on both ends of the court.
@@powerbadpowerbad Dirk was a good defensive player from 2004 until 2012. He was unstoppable on offense and beat all of his peers (Except Shaq) in the playoffs.
They were just in the right place at the right time. I wasn't surprised they not repeat with OKC Houston and a rejuvenated Spurs squad in the West
I think you can do another video about why 2019 Raptors couldn't repeat too 😂especially when their championship has the same vibe as the 2011 Mavs
Simple reason, Kawhi didn't want to stay. The following year was really good though. We got the 2nd seed and almost beat the Celtics. Pascal was playing out of his mind the following year.
@@n1c530 so Mavs did the same thing like Raptors in 2018 right ? acquired an almost free agency player for one championship, then he probably leaves next season 😂
@@justhuy7960 Who was the player?
@@n1c530 I talk about Kyrie :)) many people say he will likely leave, of course not 100%
Kawhi left, easy answer
I remember no one gave this Maverick team a chance to get far, nobody excepted them to get out of the first round against Portland. But when they beat Portland and then swept the Lakers, then people took them seriously.
The Mav’s were the equivalent of the 2004 Pistons beating the Lakers
I was a warriors fan as kid and new a little about ball about players. Ofc new about mj ai kobe n lebron. I always heard about dirk in elemenatary school and saw a warriors vs mavs game on tv on a saturday and wow dirk was just a cool dude. Wanted him to win so bad for the west cuz my dubs were so ass in the 2000s lol. When i graduated 6th grade in 2011 and found out the mavs where in the finals and won later on that. I enjoyed my summer knowin dirk got his chip
As a Mavs fan, the only true loss was Tyson Chandler. If we kept him, we wouldn’t have been bounced out so quickly. We weren’t gonna repeat with the Thunder being better and the Spurs still being good at the time.
Most analysts on tv said the mavs would lose to 6 seed Portland in the first round I remember that vividly that makes this run even more special
I don’t think a single person excluding Mavericks fans ever thought Dallas stood a chance of repeating from game 1 of the lockout season
It’s sad Cuban didn’t learn his lesson because he did the exact same thing with Brunson and the mavs have been on a downward spiral since.
Jalen Brunson averaged 8 ppg on 45% shooting in the 2021 playoff series loss to the Clippers.
He had a great year in a contract season and left. But he did not deserve a long term deal after his disastrous 2021 playoff run.
I don't think Brunson would've break out on the Mavs when they already have Luka and Kyrie
@@Damianoutlaw Why bring up the 2021 playoffs and not the 2022 playoffs?
You should do a video on the 2012 sixers
It's cool to have an owner that's involved but there's such a thing as too involved. Cuban trying to make his best player his best friend is a bit oof to me.
In other words, if the Mavs didn’t win it all in 2011, Dirk would have been mentioned with those all-time greats who stayed with one team their entire careers but never won a ring: John Stockton, Reggie Miller, and Elgin Baylor.
The Mavs 2011 NBA title run was fixed
Don't forget Chris Paul. He led his team to the finals a couple years ago and lost
I remember Dallas got BLASTED by the Lakers a month before the playoffs so when the season was over pundits thought they were the weakest team in the playoffs. The new salary cap rules that were instituted in 2011 made it harder for teams like Dallas to spend more money since they weren’t going to attract big name free agents.
I remember when we first won❤
Tyson Chandler was huge and I always thought that was their downfall and like many other teams that went deep in playoff somehow don't value their defensive presence as much, earlier days of the bucks on Brogdon and some teams on PJ Tucker etc.
Then again I realize Peja retired and also J.J. Barea and Deshawn was huge too which they didn't retain.
It would also be nice to wonder if Howard did went during the first or second wooing how would they turn out although the first stint Howard was still recovering from shoulder injury and forced to play at the Lakers, I'm sure the same would happen if he went to the Mavs since they wanna push during Dirk's twilight.
I’m a lakers fan but looking back to 2011, we were clean swept but at least we lost to the eventual champions.
Mark cuban back at it with brunson situation
The 2010-11 Mavericks were a full and complete team. Plenty of veteran players and depth on the bench, with an entire team of guys who knew that it takes every player to make a difference and win. You just don't see that type of mindset these days, and Cuban getting rid of Chandler just for the hope of Dwight Howard was the immediate drop off. You spend an entire season fighting against the super team mentality and win a championship, just to fall victim to it and watch the franchise crumble. A horrid decision by Cuban, but it makes me even happier that Dirk and the players around him seized their chance when they had it in front of them.
Should kept that team together with the lock out coming that next season they might have went back to the finals
Mark Cuban's biggest weakness as a owner has always been acting like Dallas is LA or NY
He's always expected free agents to bail him out and he creates cap space for players who never wanna go to Dallas. Dwight Howard made a good decision going to the Rockets, it's not his fault that Mark Cuban created a plan that involves him going to Dallas. He did the exact same thing with Jalen Brunson, Cuban was so confident that Brunson would resign, so he chose not to extend him early on. Obviously Brunson is gonna choose New York over Dallas, especially when they offered more money.
I'm a Mavs fan i don't believe they would have went back to back if they signed Chandler, but that being said Chandler complimented Dirk so well on the court! He should have been signed for that alone!
Cuban’s biggest mistake is definitely not re signing Nash in 2004
You might be right, but Nash never won anything in Phoenix or in his declining years with the lakers, only MVP’s … Hindsight’s 20/20
Mavericks went 58-24, 60-22 and 67-15 in the 3 years after they let Steve Nash walk. They lost the NBA finals in 2006 and won it all in 2011.
Steve Nash never made it to the Finals.
I believe Mavs knows that was their last chance to win the championship as their team were really old. After winning the championship, they were looking for another go-to guy to come along with old Dirk. But it wasn’t successful and wait until Luka came to the team!
Jaylen Brown your next video Andy Hoops 🙏🙏🙏
My college friend still owes me a case of beer because of the 2011 Mavs. After they swept the Lakers I bet him a case of beer they'd beat the Heat in 6. I won the bet Jon! Pay me my beer! You owe interest 12 years later bro.
they only sweep the Lakers because The NBA Fixed games for Dallas
@@samuraibeastwarrior2886😂😂😂
Never forget how Terry destroyed LeBum James
let's talk about ur top10 players in your next video.. love ur contents🎉..
That’s a good idea..would be different
The Mavs are in the same position right now. Imagine a legit presence like prime Tyson Chandler in the paint rn. They’d be a whole different team
2000s Mavs are kinda like the current Sixers, constantly looking like contenders but falling short, waiting for the year everything comes together for a title
Only 3 Franchises in NBA history have won 50 games for 10 straight seasons.
1. Showtime Lakers
2. 2000's Spurs
3. 2000-2011 Mavericks.
All these teams won the title.
actually the Mavs got really lucky they won in 2011, yes they played well, but we also have to remember how BAD the HEAT was that year...
True they just had the best player in the league, a top 5 player in the league in D wade and a top 10 player in Bosh
And they breezed through the Eastern conference with 50+ wins. They were sooooooo bad lmao
Lebron, Wade and Bosh in the same team. Not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7...
That's your idea of a bad team?
You mean how bad Lebron was in that finals series right
This is the same problem with the current Mavs. They don't have a good defensive center. Like they alergic to bigs. Instead of getting one, they traded for another ball dominant guard instead 🤣
What's a Center you think the Mavs should get?
The most impressive thing about their title run is not beating the Miami Heat but sweeping the defending champion Lakers. From then on I know they will beat the Miami Heat in the Finals.
The Lakers were also better than Miami.
@@Damianoutlaw im not sure about that because the Heat won twice against the Mavs while the Lakers got swept.
The Show that is a horrible way to compare teams.
The 2011 Miami Heat would have lost to the 2011 Lakers for the same reason they lost to the Mavs.
They were too small. The Lakers front court would be too big for Miami.
@@Damianoutlaw that frontcourt didn't matter. The Lakers never beat the Heat during the regular season because Chris Bosh are feasting those Laker bigs also during those games Gasol and Bynum struggles.
@@kl2389 The Mavs, Spurs and Lakers would have all beaten the 2011 Miami Heat in the Finals.
The Miami Heat would have lost to the Lakers for the same reason they lost to the Mavericks.
1. Too Small
2. Not enough depth
3. not enough great shooters.
The real reason is that Cuban decided to go after Dwight Howard so he didn't resign alot of the guys on the roster to go for a repeat. Instead he went budget to make caproom for Howard and he went elsewhere.