Is Chara the Narrator of Undertale?
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Is Chara the Narrator of Undertale? Today we discuss the Chara Narrator theory and how likely the NarraChara theory could be true.
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The Chara Narrator theory has been a very popular Undertale theory for over 5 years. There's a lot of significant proof of it being real but is it actually? With Deltarune Chapter 2 now out and Chapter 3 on the horizon we take a deep dive and have a discussion into the NarraChara theory of Under Tale. Discussing points that Flowey points out and the final battle against Asriel and Sans. As well as Kris role in all of this. Is Chara the Narrator of Deltarune? Or is Delta Rune completely separate? Believe it or not, the red text in Undertale Genocide is not actually consistent and is in fact more consistent in True Pacifist runs of the game.
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0:00 Intro
0:46 The Red Text Myth
1:43 The Narrator's Personality
3:07 The Dreemurr's
3:47 Frisk combining with Chara
5:10 The Narrator Changes
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I did not come up with the Chara Narrator theory. Somebody else came up with NarraChara. Some believe that Chara isn't evil and actually learns to become that way through your actions in Genocide and No Mercy. Which is equivalent to Deltarune Snowgrave route. There's proof of this in the Narrator. Such as the dog food being half empty or half full. The Neutral route and True Pacifist route both change the Narrator's personality. Unlike my W.D Gaster theories we compare evidence from both sides of the argument to come to a conclusion. This isn't Game Theory and I am not MatPat but I hope I can suffice. We talk about Sans in this video too and use some parts of the Undertale OST and Deltarune Soundtrack which doesn't include Megalovania. This isn't a Deltarune theory though. Unlike my Delta Rune theories Delta Rune is briefly mentioned along with Delta Rune characters such as Kris Susie Noelle Ralsei and Spamton NEO. So there isn't a big shot in this video and we don't talk about Mike or 1997. Heck even Gaster isn't mentioned in this video. We discuss stuff that happens in the True Lab during a Cell Phone call with Asriel Dreemurr and other easter eggs. Under Tale was made by Toby Fox so only TobyFox knows whether this theory is true or not.
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Optimist: half-full
Pessimist: half-empty
Realist: "what was the container's last change of volume?"
True. If you’re adding it, then it’s half-full. If you’re subtracting it, then it’s half-empty. Both examples state your goal towards the glass. You’re either filling it or emptying.
Oh. Nice to know I wasn't the only one thinking of it that way 😂
realist: what is the value/rarity of the content of the glass? if it is less valuable/rare, like water, then it's half-empty, since it can easily be filled. if it's more valuable or rare, like mercury, then it is half-full, since filling it up to that point is not a common occurrence in the first place.
that was legit my subconscious thought process when i saw this dilema.
Half water
I am the realist
"Unless Chara is actually the cellphone this whole time"
Chara is Phone Guy confirmed!
I'm just picturing a ten year-old's voice coming out from the phone, saying all the Phone Guy's lines- That'd be kinda cute.
Chara is Ness' dad
The they behind the slaughter
Hello, hello! Um... I wish I had more time to get you settled in on your first night, but I kinda have to die and let my brother steal my soul. Bye!
@@ipreneurs sorry for the inconvenience! (violent backround screaming)
Fun fact:
Toriel uses red text too, specifically when mentioning Asgore. Red text probably is just intense emotion.
or maybe just intense emotion. why would "hole" be red? unless they are overly enthusiastic about it?
*"N O C H O C O L A T E ."*
_- Intense negative emotion._
Sans uses red text in his blue stop sign metaphor. I can just imagine him abruptly yelling the words "stop" and "red" lmao...
@@personperson8712 This may be a little far fetched, but they did fall through a hole in order to arrive in the Underground, and its implied that this was a suicide attempt
@@MB-qg4zw shit-
Never thought about how Chara doesn’t show up until after the Flowey tutorial. It makes you think, is that why Flowey’s pellets disappear and you get healed before Toriel shows up? Was that Chara’s doing? Which is something you don’t consider normally until you think about it.
Yo that’s genius
Thata's an interesting idea.
Or was that chara first awakening for the first time and linking to your soul. Having a sort of healing effect.
Chara seems to only talk after we see Flowey... " Golden flowers, they must have broken your fall" (i dont know if its correct, i'm saying from memory)
This also happens before the ASRIEL DREEMUR fight where your friends protect you with their support. Maybe that happened at the start because Chara gave you support and healed your HP fully because they agreed to join you on your whole adventure.
3:40 I think the genocide bossfights also trigger the Serious mode, as representing Chara no more joking around.
It does
It's actually being in a genocide run that triggers it. Serious mode starts from the first "nobody came" until the end or until you abort the genocide run.
@@para9938 Nice, didn't know that
One thing to note about the narrator’s dialogue is how they seem to hype up Undyne, and also treat her Undying battle more respectfully than anything else in the Genocide route. Since Undyne and Chara both start off with a similar black-and-white view on the world (humans bad, monsters good) and also both had the idea in their heads that they were going to be a hero for monsterkind, it makes sense that if the narrator was Chara they would hype up and perhaps even idolise Undyne.
Oh damn, I hadn't thought of that! Yeah Chara would definitely like undyne to some degree....
Or maybe Chara really likes anime,either would be awesome
@@angelaneeley207 If you check the cactus at one part of the game the narrator will say "ah yes the cactus, the most tsundere of plants"
@@LOL-vc7pi Fun fact: When you look at the save point, the room in Hotland where Alphys writes her review for Mew Mew 2 is called “bad opinion zone.”
I personally buy into the theory that this is Chara/The narrator expressing extreme distaste for Alphys’ opinions just because I think it’s really funny
@@ADuckWithARUclipsAccount lmao
I already believed in Narra Chara, and I love seeing when there's more proof for it than against it
@Jack Walker this isn't political though
@Jack Walker Also I know, i'm an american
I mean I single piece of proof against a theory can disprove it so most theory’s have more going for it then against them for example I could make a theory saying toriel and asgore are the same person I could make a lot of reasons saying why but there’s only one thing that 100% disproves it and that’s in the true Pacifist ending and that’s the same thing with the narrator chara theory there’s a lot of tiny peices of evidence but the fact the narrator can read peoples mind is enough to debunk it for some people
I'm glad to finally see the evidence for the chara narrator theory.
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Happy to be happy
some more evidence im pretty fond of that wasnt included!
1) the death screen. when you die, you hear asgores voice telling you: "chara! stay determined! you are the future of humans and monsters..." this is pretty compelling proof imo. theres no way frisk could have this memory of asgore pleading with chara not to die. in fact, its reasonable to say the only person who could possibly remember this is chara, or maybe asriel and toriel if they were in the room. they share their memories with you two more times, the one you mentioned during asriels boss fight, and when undyne knocks you off the bridge in waterfall. its the memory of asriel finding chara after they fell down. it would be very out of place for that memory to play if chara was not the narrator. it makes sense that chara would be trying to motivate us by sharing that memory, but it would be kind of clunky to insert a random clip of asriel finding chara in a totally unrelated scene.
2) if you check chara's bed in the pacifist or neutral route in new home, this is the flavor text: "what a comfortable bed. if you lie down here, you might never get back up." on first reading its slightly creepy but not very notable, but the reason they say that is because that's the bed where chara died. ive always found this super cool lol.
Holy shit the bed thing is what convinced me.
Not to mention that Frisk never see Asgore till he meet him in Throne Room
Well, if Chara is the narrator, this proves Chara isn't a heartless murder from the begging. Kill Undyne in neutral, what do you get? "Undyne's body..." "..." no "You Won!", just Chara silent. Chara is also silent when fighting Asgore, and when Asriel is talking about how much the miss them when you battle him, they show emotion in these texts, it's only in genocide they follow our actions, like Noelle from Deltarune. "You wispered Noelle's name.." "The demon that comes when people call it's name." Noelle and Chara, though different, are going down a very similar path...caused by us. We cannot deny that.
Genocide Chara simplified:
1. After killing all ur friends what makes you think u can just reset and walk away from your responsibilities?
No, ur getting the G route ending because u deserve it.
Didnt 100% understand
But tbh i think she just take over when u do genocide
Cuz if she really wants u to kill and she is the narrator, she will say things in the beggining like "* monsters are attacking you, you feel like you should kill them" or something like that
Think about it a little
If someone went to people you hate, and you are the one who needs to explain to them, would you say things like "you should leave them" or "you should not talk with them"?
This will make sense
@@user-file-x-life That's what I was thinking, plus they were taken in by monsters after having a, presumably, abusive home life on the Surface, and was loved and cared for by monsterkind, to the point where they would die just to save them. Why would they want to kill them?
I was beginning to wonder if the red text could actually be *Frisk*, but then the very next scene showed the text box "My drawing" in red. My theory died before it even had the chance to properly form 💀
Even though the red text isn't Frisk, the text when you flee could be, Ex; "I'm outta here." "Don't slow me down, and "I've got better to do.". I don't think these could be Chara as it's Frisk the one in the fights
That's not many counterclaims going against the theory.... and the one about "Why the narrator glitches out in the true lab and no one else" is pretty easy to think of a solution too.... unlike Alphys, who has been down there several times and should be used to it by now, this is the first time Frisk (and by extension the narrator) have gone down there..... and let's face it, that area is scary, grown adults playing it with the 4th wall protecting them get scared going down there.... and Frisk and Chara are small children, that are right in the middle of it. Chances are, the narration is glitching because Chara is so goddam terrified that she can't do it properly.
There is a more easy reply. The world of Undertale is canonically a game, at least the game rules are to them what physics rules are to us, stats like LV are physical things that can be sensed.
The narration even say something like "no data available" when checking the memory heads, which is not glitching but a computer reaction. The true lab isn't making glitch out Chara as narrator, it's making glitch out the game. And it's not surprising when save points and exclamation emote box about encounters both turn into amalgamates.
[Insert Generic Comment Stating That Chara's Gender Is Unconfirmed And Not Female Here]
@@narrativeless404 That's the line that replace the entire CHECK of the amalgamates.
*they
Guys Toby left it up to the player to decide the gender of Chara and Frisk, she is just as valid as they.
Narra Chara is definetly up there witg oldest and biggest theories there is, and accordingly, also one of the most controversial ones for the same reason Chara is a base breaking character
I personally suscribe to it because it develops Chara and gives so much more depth and characterization to them beyond "booo am spooky, u kill everyone, now i kill stuff" and boom in the end of Genocide with, for a character with such relevance to the Dreemurrs and events in the game, feels like they get the end of the stick and just get downgraded to a one appearence for a few secs in Genocide, talk crpytic mumbo jumbo, and then erase the world, ever only appearing again in a new way if you do the Souless Pacifist
My thoughts exactly.
It's actually not cryptic at all, especially if you know what Chara is talking about. The gist is "Dude, you did this, I didn't do this, you should get the credit cuz you defeated them, this was totally the right idea, right pardner? :D"
And then the answers dictate whether Chara pretty much says "Cool, see you in the next world" or "Okay, listen here you little shit, you did not just do this all for nothing"
It's just that since Chara uses a lot of Undertale jargon and says it a tad bit formally, it can be hard to understand it at first, even if it was supposed to be a clear statement that Chara isn't the evil person here in Genocide, and that it's YOU, and was instead tossed out in favor of the idea of Chara being evil. They aren't- at least, not at first, and not nearly in the way the fandom portrays. You're the sicko kid running around with a knife. Not Chara.
@@bluphenyx "You did this, I didn't do this"
Chara:
* Together, we eradicated the enemy and became strong.
On the second genocide path:
* And, with your help. We will eradicate the enemy and become strong.
Also, no one but Chara needed to destroy the world. Our actions helped him come to conclusions about why he came back - to get power through stats. At the same time, Chara doesn't think we did it just to destroy everything. He says himself that he thinks they are the same in one thing - they both want power. And he saw the motivation in the power in our actions. So the decision to destroy the world is purely Chara's decision not based on our actions. It was based simply on the fact that:
* Now. Now, we have reached the absolute. There's nothing left for us here. Let us erase this pointless world and move on to the next.
This world became pointless as soon as it could no longer provide anything useful, couldn't give more power or achieve something more.
We have already gained power, and the destruction of the world will not give us any power.
@@bluphenyx couldn’t have said it better myself.
@@justauser6078 I do not think it is as simple as just what the world can be used for, not with how Chara change a lot post-genocide even if you agreed to the erasure of the world. Chara react badly to wanting the world back even though at best it should just be considered something pointless, and actually call us out on being hypocritical.
Chara was reborn, and just like Flowey had to decide a reason to live, but it isn't as clear-cut as Flowey's decision given that Asriel merely blamed his mercy for what happened, while Chara was the one who set things into motion so was unsure who was right about killing or not to reach a goal. So just like Chara said in genocide, their decision was to see you as a guide for that. Which fits with the moral of the game if Chara's goal in this new life is whatever you teach them to be.
The thing is that both Flowey and Chara understand what the kill or be killed idea entails and a reason for it to make sense, especially in the genocide context.
It's one thing to kill all that stands in your way, it's another to seek out those who would not encounter you to do the same, but the idea stays the same, the power is less about raw power but about choice and obstacle.
If to achieve your goal killing is always justified, that means that for you to always succeed in your goal, nothing else must exist that could stand in your way. So the destruction of the world is an obvious step necessary to reach that end, "erase this pointless world and move on to the next", this next world being the one THEY make. Flowey even hints at that kind of things when talking in genocide about having thoughts of all the ways they could entertain themselves with the godlike power of having the souls once they are done killing everyone, it's again this idea of doing whatever you want once none is left. It's the absolute that was reached.
So quite the opposite, Chara think you do it precisely to destroy everything once you have enough power.
However, you decide that you want the world back instead of moving to the next. That makes no sense to Chara, why would you kill everyone but want them back along with the world that kept pushing things in your way ?
At that point, and it's why Chara is against you instead of treating you like a partner like minutes before, Chara simply realize you never cared about any of that. They were never watching someone doing what they think is right (like you do in your first playthrough), in that case being kill or be killed. It was watching someone who did not think it was the right thing to do but did it anyway (in most player's case, for curiosity).
And Chara's first guess is that this person also think that the power to reset make them above consequences, which no one should be. This even confuses Chara when you attempt to bring the world back yet disagree with being above consequences, given that the world no longer being here is one of the consequences you are trying to cancel.
So Chara is against you now, as you are just someone who played with everyone's life instead of showing them a new purpose in life, and given Flowey's dialogue at the end of a true pacifist is the same even in post genocide, with everyone being happy etc, I do think that all that Chara does is taking over so that they, not You/Frisk, experience that happy life. And also taunting you with it like with the photo, a constant reminder that the genocide did happen.
It's all the soul trade was for in the first place.
However, there is a way to make Chara a partner again (even if it won't change the result of a post-genocide true pacifist) : making more genocide runs.
This changes what Chara says. At that moment you no longer are someone who played with everyone's life by curiosity or without conviction that it was the right thing to then change your mind. You are someone who repeatedly recreate and destroy the same world. Is it because you think it's the right thing, is it once more playing with lives ? Chara can't tell and in doubt consider you a partner still, your feelings are feelings that they can no longer understand, from what they can only describe as a perverted sentimentality.
And before once again offering you the "erase" choice, Chara suggest you take another path, a better one, encouraging you to drop genocide.
I think there's evidence pointing to and away from Chara being the narrator, but the evidence pointing to narraChara being true seems much more intentional from the standpoint of Toby including it in the game, if you get what I mean.
For me, there's one line from Chara in the post-genocide "sell your soul" dialogue that really sells me on Chara being the narrator. "You think you are above consequences." They didn't phrase that like a question. They phrased it like someone narrating your thought process, just like the narrator does throughout the entire game. Also, the line, "It's me, Chara," feels like it was supposed to be a big reveal. I don't think it really came across correctly, but that line seems like it was supposed to be a revelation to the player that the narrator has been Chara the whole time, and now they've taken some measure of control thanks to your total jackass stunts.
Aside from that, Chara makes it clear enough in their genocide dialogue that they've been "awake" ever since you fell down at the beginning of the game, or at least pretty soon after as you mentioned in the video. That being the case, I don't get why they would only try to help you on a genocide route. If they were just straight up evil then that would make some sort of sense, but you'd think that if they had malevolent motivations then they'd try actively encouraging you to kill people on non-genocide runs too.
Also, final unrelated point, I think Chara's name not being there in the genocide Flowey encounters in New Home was not intentional. I could be wrong, as assuming anything in a Toby Fox game is unintentional is not a safe bet, but from my limited experience in using game dev software I think I have an idea of what happened. He probably had one scene or room or something that he re-used for every Flowey encounter, and he didn't think to put the player name back for the encounters on the genocide route. This is probably because it wasn't worth the effort since he probably didn't expect his little 6-10 hour indie game to become one of the biggest games on the planet and for every last detail to be put under a microscope a thousand times over. Sorry Toby. :P
I feel like your last point is incorrect because for future releases of undertale toby added new areas complete with new dialogue like the dog shrine and the mad mew mew fight. I'd find it weird if toby took the time to add entirely new areas and dialogue but couldn't be bothered to fix a minor but still fairly important and noticeable bug/inconsistency like a name not appearing in flowey's encounter.
@@lokiasgard1455 I get what you're saying but I think Toby having a lot on his plate making the Mew Mew fight, dog shrine, casino thing for X-Box, patching glitches and typos, and working on Deltarune could explain him not thinking to patch the name thing. With that being said, Toby has been known to patch very small details, so you may be right, but it's still easy for me to see how that might have escaped his notice.
If the name not appearing in genocide encounters isn't a mistake, I would be surprised, primarily because Chara is very clearly present and active when those encounters happen so I don't understand why Toby would intentionally not have their name on the screen when it is there for every other encounter. It seems more likely that Chara's name was intentionally, or maybe even accidentally, excluded from the first Flowey encounter at the beginning of the game and was inadvertently excluded from the genocide encounters as a result.
@@snappysnoot7540 if flowey only had like 1 other encounter in the genocide route I could maybe see how a name not appearing in his encounters might've slipped toby's notice, but flowey talks you several times in new home during the genocide route, so toby must've REALLY not been paying attention to his own game if he didn't notice a name not appearing during his encounters. If it is just some sort of mistake, it's a very obvious mistake.
Haha spamton reference.
Chara doesnt just help on the genocide route, I'm pretty sure they help you when fighting asriel, they only become "evil" because the first thing they wake up to after who knows how long is you killing a bunch of monsters and then their MOM. Chara just regressed into a state of insanity.
Theory idea: why do ghosts in undertale like to be training dummies? Napstablook would be too shy to be one and Mettaton had bigger dreams
Maybe they died in a dumb way
So they decided to be a dummy
maybe it was just that one ghost, they do become Mad Mew-Mew in the switch version
@@Chirrie No, it was at least Mad Dummy and their cousin.
@HBegaming YT true
@@Dan0RG Mad Dummy is Mad mew Mew- she eventually goes for the Mew Mew doll instead in all versions (Xbox and PC included due to the alarm clock dialogue post-pacifist and Xbox's casino.)
3:32 actually, serious mode is also active against Undyne the Undying and Sans (a side effect of serious mode being on is the instant noodles healing 90 HP by being eaten dry rather than cooking them and healing like 4 HP)
Also: 4:30, the name is also absent in the 'cutscene battles' in new home (both on the case of flowey's speech, and the regular Asriel story in neutral/pacifist) so it seems to just be a thing that if you're not on an actual fight, your name won't appear (I know you say at around 7:30 it's absent on the flowey speech, but it's not exclusive to flowey, but just to cutscene battles)
With the deltarune narrator, I kind of thought that in this case, it was Kris's internal dialog towards you, the player.
Well, think about it. Kris is basically the Deltarune version of Chara. So that just supports the Narrator theory even more.
@@kalkidaneshete3684 I wasn't saying this disproved anything, just thought I'd add my two cents to the discussion.
Same
@@kalkidaneshete3684 but how?
Doesnt the Deltarune narrator also somewhat support NarraChara in Undertale by referencing The Undertale Narrator confirmig its not just a game mechanic and is actually another entity?
Like in Deltarune the narrator says "Its what they call you" or something like that when you interact with the mirror at home.
my claim with the true lab glitching: the amalgamates have enough determination to alter dialogue
That's exactly what I was thinking! Chara's determination is the only thing keeping them attached to Frisk's SOUL, and it's faltering under all the determination there is in the air in the true lab.
@@kristinevanyperen5445 😮
@@narrativeless404 you don't understand how undertale works at all
@@narrativeless404 then you would understand determination and human sould power can affect in-game dialouge and overlay, the omega flowey fight for example uses a fake save screen and text
@@narrativeless404 in additon, the amalgamates have dialouge that breaks out of the text box
Yes.
The answer's yes.
But seriously though, there's so much overwhelming evidence to the point where it's kind of hard to even call it a theory. Even the counterclaims are very minor and don't really disprove the theory either.
"It's me Chara" Litteraly the text.
We shouldn't be the ones trying to prove that Chara is the narrator, the ones who don't believe it should be the ones trying to find a proof that the narrator changes on genocide.
@@nasch6572
I actually have an idea that says that the narrator is her just in genocide route, i mean she takes over
Because if she is always the narrator, she can just not help you in other endings, or tells you somethings like "* monsters are attacking you, you feel like you should kill them"
@@user-file-x-life Like, in other endings, the narrator says almost nothing during the fight against Omega Flowey, and actually helps you during the fight against Asriel : it's narrator which suggests you to save your friends instead of your file.
And why would Chara, who just describes things that happen or that Frisk feels, would tell that Frisk feels they should attack when Frisk probably doesn't feel that ?
I don't see where you come from.
@@nasch6572
Idrk if u r against me or with me tbh
Btw u r free to believe what u want, i dont think i need to say that but ok,
U see, u say why would chara qho describes things that happen or Frisk feels, would tell frisk to attack when frisk doesn't feel that
Idk if my descibe wasn't clear, but i think i said at the beggining atleast, why chara doesnt even try to effect Frisk's thoughts by telling him something similar to what i said "* u feel like u should kill them"
@@nasch6572
Oh yeah, why chara [the murderer] wants u to save your friends?
U might say that she is saying what frisk is thinking about
Well yes but why she doesnt even try to change your mind even a little in the pacisfist route,
Tbh
I think im gonna stick with that she takes over and become the narrator when u do the genocide route
Chara as narrator makes sense to me. Asriel and Chara combined their souls to go through the barrier, and Asriel was resurrected as Flowey so it doesn't seem far fetched that Chara's essence would survive in some form as well. We know none of the other humans who fell had a red soul so that could explain why they didn't latch onto any of the others before Frisk.
I also like to imagine that Frisk came back and got Flowey post-canon so that they can all live together with Toriel on the surface. I can't help but imagine she'd be happy to have her children back, even if they are now a mean flower and a voice in her other child's head.
Some of the narration text has (parentheses) while others don't. Maybe the ones with parentheses are Frisk's thoughts (and maybe Kris's in deltarune) while the ones without are Chara's.
It's unlikely.
* (The date I came here.) - in red, New Home.
* My drawing - also in red.
@@justauser6078 Great point
Unlikely but actually a good point. I always asked myself why some text had brackets and some didn't
How is kris related to dialogs in undertale?
Plus, i think yes kinda
I think when u do genocide she takes over, while when u dont, its frisk's thoughts or just Toby
@@narrativeless404
I think there is tbh
I dont know why u told me that while i was talking abt kris, but its ok
The one piece of evidence you presented that surprised me was how you can't interact with anything until after you meet Flowey.
In terms of the "Chara Narrator theory", it can mean that Flowey is what caused Chara to awaken.
(Sidenote: I think it was Frisk falling that Awakened them, but due to confusion and idk grogginess, they didn't act as the narrator until after the Flowey encounter.)
I'm not sure it was Flowey specifically that Awakened Chara (or metaforically slapped them out of their confusion as I said above), but rather the way he speaks. Flowey speaks the same way Asriel does (I mean, they ARE the same person) using "Howdy" instead of hello/hi and "Golly" instead of gosh/G-d.
Also, something you didn't mention, there's the line, "I realized the purpose of my reincarnation." Not sure if it's literal or not, but it has applications in several theories. (Besides the narrator theory, Chara's SOUL being red.)
Flowey couldn't wake Chara up in any way. This is not evidenced by anything that we see in the game. Chara doesn't narrate because, quote:
* At first, I was so confused. Our plan had failed, hadn't it? Why was I brought back to life?
* ...
* You.
Because he was confused and did not immediately understand what was going on and where he was. Because for Chara, no time has passed since the moment of death and when he was awakened. His last memory was death.
Also, the assumption that Flowey is somehow involved in Chara's awakening directly contradicts Chara's own words:
* Your power awakened me from death.
@@justauser6078 1) Flowey having something to do with it is more like something causing someone with amnesia to suddenly remember everything.
2) yes, Chara says that, BUT they do not specify WHEN they awoke.
3) Chara is the only person who doesn't use asterisks when speaking. (Has nothing to do with this, but just pointing it out to you.)
@@yusheitslv100
1. I don't see any reason for Chara to have amnesia. Flowey didn't have amnesia. He immediately realized that he had no arms and legs, and began calling for mom and dad. Confusion is more likely.
2. Chara specifically talks about our power, and why will "our power" awaken him not at the beginning, but somewhere in a random place? Chara also says:
* I am Chara. "Chara." The demon that comes when people call its name.
So most likely it happens when we "call" his name at the beginning on the name typing screen.
3. This is the most understandable way to separate character quotes and my own words.
@@justauser6078 1) i was just using amnesia as a comparison, not saying they actually had amnesia.
2) "That demon that answers when you call its name." is only when you do genocide multiple times on the same SAVE file. They are taking to US, the player, and is trying to scare us because we don't suffer from the consequences when everyone in their world does.
@@yusheitslv100
1. And thus my words are not refuted in any way and my version is still more likely.
2. Yes, of course. Chara is very concerned about the punishment of his own partner, I easily believe it (no). But that's not the point right now. Chara could call himself just a demon, but he called himself a demon who comes when his NAME is CALLED. No need to look for excuses.
Again, it was OUR power that awakened Chara, not Flowey in any way. Otherwise, it would be mentioned.
Hm, the amount of counterclaims were quite small in comparison to the evidence for it being true, also there’s really no guarantee that Chara is even in Deltarune.
Well Chara would have been around hundreds of years ago so they can't have fallen down the mountain and met the monsters, as the war never happened, therefore having no way to come back.
Chara and Kris are very similar, and given that “Chara” is a placeholder (“the true name” being a joke about sprite names) it’s possible that they’re the same person- in which case, Kris would be narrating themself
@@runeanonymous9760 hm, you’re not the first to come up with this, in that case what would be the reason for the difference in skin color?
@@johanstenfelt1206 Perhaps they are not exactly the same person but equivalents in a way. Maybe Kris is more of an amalgamation between Chara and Frisk. Maybe Chara *is* narrating and they are attached to the red soul which represents the player and not Frisk specifically. Or maybe this is what Toby meant when he said not everything from undertale was applicable in deltarune and viceversa.
@@moon4236 yeah, who can really say at this point🤷🏻♂️.
For me, the evidence supporting it far out weighs the evidence against it. Things like the ringer can just be explained as just simple design choices that Toby didn’t intend to mean anything.
You can’t say the same with the supporting evidence since that would just be way to many coincidences.
"design choices"
If the design is the narrator is not Chara yeah
@@ItsB1998 the counter arguments are the ring tone, which can be explained with it being just a ringtone and Toby just wanted it to be more unique. Or Chara just wanted to sound funny.
Them glitching out in the true lab can also just be for atmosphere, or it’s because even their scared of what has happened cause they like all the monsters. So, their not glitching out, just serious.
Speaking of which, how would you explain serious mode for bosses if it isn’t Chara? At least I have irl and lore explanations.
We don’t know enough about Deltarune to know if Chara is the narrator of that game. But that doesn’t have anything to do with Chara being the narrator of Undertale.
Finally, the reason Charas name dosent show up during the fight with Alphys could be because she just doesn’t want to fight her best friend. So she might ‘detach’ herself more from what your doing
@@underplayer420 If the narration is supposed to be someone actually talking, it wouldn't be possible for them to say the things that are shown with the glitching text. The words literally overlap and are non-legible.
The tone of the game is serious, you use Toby as an explanation for things, and that would be the case for the narration at those serious mode moments.
The narrator within Dr makes the same jokes definition that it's not exclusive to Chara's humor, it's just Toby's which is translated through the game.
@@ItsB1998 that may be so, but your ignoring all the evidence like “it’s my drawing” “it’s Chara” “it’s still you, Frisk.” Among other things like why the name dosnt show up at the start. I am curious how you would explain those.
My personal theory as to why the ringing was spaced out was because Chara may have actually been describing the phone ringing (if that makes sense?). They seem very distraught during the True Lab sequence, so it’d make sense for them to be a bit on edge (especially after Frisk had an extremely unsettling experience with the Amalgamates right before Alphys came to feed them).
This video wasn't just proving about the narrator theory, but answered so many more questions like if the CHARA is evil or not and so much more
It was a perfect video for a perfectionist like me
And also better than that underLab guy's videos
There is a video called The truth of Chara (I think), that talks about how evil Chara may have actually been and talks in a lot more detail of the points seen in here, you may like it
@@narrativeless404 yeah I wanted to say that, I jist didn't express myself, I love that video.
chara being the narrator is my headcannon, they are the only one present with you throughout the whole game and thats canon. they posses frisk when frisk falls in the flower bed. i feel like that should be evidence enough.
Heh, I remember I once referred to the narrator as "Chara" (and "Spectr") back in 2015, when I took a screenshot of the narrator saying "(Sadistically, you've poured out all the water right in front of Undyne's eyes.)"
I'm sure someone else thought of the idea before then, so you could say the idea that the narrator is Chara in Undertale is only a few months younger than Undertale itself.
tbh i wonder if chara is the Sole (soul lmao) Narrator in undertale. i think they do narrate some stuff, but maybe some of it is frisks internal monologue, and when youre in true lab its their mind getting scrambled and confused by these amalgamates. i just thought of this during the video, so it might not be 100% solid, but just a lil thought! love the vid btw, u always put out the best ut/dr theories
I though the same, it could be an interesting idea
Another posible evidence about Chara being the Narrator, is when they mention that the feeling of getting HP, ATK, DEF, GOLD, EXP, LP was them.
What exactly could the had meant when they say they were that feeling?
Well, who else tells you this things other than the Narrator themselves.
Either inside of battle or outside they mention info like this, and I think that's the feeling they meant.
Oh one more thing, people believe Chara could be Narrator on Deltarune, but this one is not likely and I'll explain why.
Narrator Chara works in Undertale because the narrative was about them and Asriel, they became that world interpretation of the RPG box while Asriel while being Flowey became the interpretation of the player, Chara seems to be connected to Frisk soul, I presume because they have the same color soul.
The soul of Deltarune are neither Frisk or Chara's, I think is more an interpretation of the player in general and being a red soul might be tied to the memories of the player of Undertale.
Chara doesn't really add anything being the Narrator on Deltarune because this is not even about them.
Canon genocide Chara be like.
Frisk: No, I don’t want to do this anymore, pls stop!
Chara: You’re the one who made this decision because ur so curious, now what makes you think you can just reset and walk away from ur responsibility?
After what you’ve done what makes u think you deserve the true pacifist ending again? Nope, you’re getting your genocide ending.
chara being affected by the true lab actually does make some sense in my opinion, whatever mechanism is connecting them to frisk, it seems doubtful in the extreme that it DOESN'T involve determination in some capacity. it's possible that the determination-infused amalgamates are therefore having an effect on that connection; something like radio interference maybe? it's true that flowey doesn't seem to have this effect despite also being injected with determination, but his plant body is capable of containing determination whereas the amalgamates might be 'leaking' for lack of a better word. (theres also undyne's neutral and genocide fights, but in neutral she only seems to have just enough to hold on a bit longer, rather than enough to resurrect, and in genocide, her lack of melting suggests she's somehow managed to transcend the limitations of her body to contain it, at least until the very end)
I like how this just boils down to “ here’s a mountain of evidence for chara being a narrator
And here’s a few inconsistencies that need some explaining that “disproves” it”
There's no mountain of evidence. Nothing the narrator says can't just be the narrator by itself. The stuff that disproves it is stronger than the stuff that proves it. Factual
@@ItsB1998 it’s me chara
My drawing
My bed
His bed
@@aresrivera9744 That's definitely Chara all right. That doesn't prove they are the one that narrates everything. There's literally a narrator right at the start of the game before Chara is even awakened by Frisk. So
@@ItsB1998 which one is that ?
@@aresrivera9744 In the beginning of the game when it talks about the past of the monsters and humans, and when we get to the menu and select things like the names, the narrator is already around and even makes comments on the names we choose for Chara.
I need to mention(for the sake of this theory)the scene in waterfall when you fall down into the golden flowers.This is a scene found in all routes of undertale,where you randomly get a flashback of the day Chara fell down and met Asriel after falling off the bridge and into the Garbage dump in waterfall.If Chara is only awakened during genocide where the fuck is this memory coming from?Does Frisk just get random flashbacks of dead children every once in a while?At the very least the waterfall scene proves that Chara is somewhere with Frisk during all runs and isn’t just awakened during genocide.
Serious mode is also avaliable in sans and undying fight
Fun fact about serious mode:- in serious mode the noodles will be eaten raw and heal 90 hp but in normal they heal 4
serious mode is always active in genocide. it starts after the first "nobody came"
there is another detail with Narrator Chara
and that is when fighting Toriel, Asgore & Asriel
the narrotor goes silent, like Chara is shocked to see there own loving family fighting
and i do have a theory for the true lab dialogue glitching
think of Chara like a invisible spirit, floating being Frisk, and due to what the Amalgamates are (melted monsters fueled by determination), it messes with Chara's spirit, who is connected to Frisk's soul and determination
My Explanations for counter arguments:
the counter arguments are the ring tone, which can be explained with it being just a ringtone and Toby just wanted it to be more unique. Or Chara just wanted to sound funny.
Them glitching out in the true lab can also just be for atmosphere, or it’s because even their scared of what has happened cause they like all the monsters. So, their not glitching out, just serious.
Speaking of which, how would you explain serious mode for bosses if it isn’t Chara? At least I have irl and lore explanations.
We don’t know enough about Deltarune to know if Chara is the narrator of that game. But that doesn’t have anything to do with Chara being the narrator of Undertale.
Finally, the reason Charas name dosent show up during the fight with Alphys could be because she just doesn’t want to fight her best friend. So she might ‘detach’ herself more from what your doing
When do you fight alphys?
@@shadowboi8620 and why alphys is Chara's Best Friend?
hey, people in the replys. I think they meant flowey instead of alphys
Another interesting detail: In the first Flowey fight, when he creates his undodgeable ring of friendliness pellets, the pellets mystyriously dissapear, and youre healed to full hp. Flowey is super confused about this, as evidenced by his facial expression. Of course, only seconds after that, Toriel fireballs Flowey, and youre led to believe that this was her doing, however, the same thing happens again at the end of the Photoshop Flowey fight, moments before the souls block his saving ability and then eradicte him. Both times, were saved from the slow moving ring of friendliness pellets the same way, before Toriel or the souls completely wreck Flowey. The biggest piece of evidence is that right before the Asriel fight, we actually see Toriel saving us from the famous 'slowly shrinking ring of friendliness pellets used while human is at 1hp', and its completely different: she uses her own bullets to deflect Floweys, and then heals us for one hp.
I suppose that, considering that the first friendliness pellets save coincides with the start of the narration, the only logical conclusion os that, for some reason, Chara has the ability to convert extremly slow moving bullets into green bullets, which then heal you (or something like that, might only work for undodgeable attacks, considering other slow moving bullets dont get the same treatment)
I 100% believe that Chara is the narrator. The narrator says information that neither the player or Frisk could possibly know, pointing towards it being Chara since she lived in the Underground before. Another thing is that the red text just shows the part of Chara that the player and/or Frisk corrupted by choosing the Genocide path. The Genocide ending's explanation has Chara saying that you, the player, and/or Frisk's actions led her to the conclusion that her purpose was to gain power by killing. So if Chara is a demon, that would make you the devil. The red text is just the corrupted part of Chara talking. Furthermore, the narrator seems to have a comic-mischief sense of humor, and certain pieces of evidence such as the VHS tapes in the True Lab also point to Chara getting into comic mischief. One example of the narrator's slightly twisted sense of humor is that if Frisk adds decorations onto the Reindeer Monster instead of taking them off, Frisk puts googley eyes on the monster. If you try to add more decorations, the narrator says, "You can't improve perfection."
great points but chara uses they/them
Chara also said things that even Chara didn't know, such as the stats of some characters created after Chara's death like Mettaton and the monster kid or God of hyper death Asriel.
Yep.
7:00
,,Its a voice YOU have never heard before" it never states THEY don't know the voice.
Thank you Cibles for this video!
People need to be like her really, she's presenting both her arguements and a couple counter-ones to let the viewer pick
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
This isn't a theory, this is literally a fact that she is the narrator
It's just the fandom mischaracterizing characters, like saying Sans is strong or saying Chara is evil
It's never once stated in the game that they're the narrator, nor would that make any logical sense. It's a theory
@@ItsB1998 I have gotten into so many arguments with the fandom and the whole "mischaracterizing" thing that if I debate with you I'll ruin both of are days for the next 2 days. have a great day
@@SpoonAtNoon Understandable. Have a great day yourself.
Sans fight is hard but he's not exactly strong like undyne or asgore.
I think sans is just smart. A for chara, they became evil not because they were born evil, it's because of genocide runs. After all, chara knows reset and true resets.
Yes finally it’s basically is a fact and people really do misinterpreted the characters.
There's actually another theory about it since some time...
Also, there's actually two narrators, the number for dialogue being changes for like the intro text and very supposedly Chara's text. It's vert likely the other is Toby himself btw since he said the intro whole showing off the game at that earthbound interview.
Is chara the narrator of undertale? Yes
3:43 serious mode actually is activated when fighting Sans as well
A point no one seems to have mentioned yet is the possibility that we are overthinking it and our narrator is a narrator in the traditional sense, i.e Toby Fox. Serious mode does only trigger in Asriel, Asgore and Toriel fights probably has more to do with the high emotional stakes of those battles then their relation to Chara. And the dialogue changing in genocide is playing into the player vs game nature of the genocide route shown in the Sans fight and explain why the Deltarune narrator has a similar tone.
But what about "It's me, Chara?" or "My bed" or "My drawing"?
IMO at this point I consider narrator chara canon, it just makes so much sense
It doesn't make sense from a standpoint of why would they be narrating the actions of a human they don't know. It doesn't make any sense at all actually
@@ItsB1998 They wanna torment themselves?
and also in room 123, the room_water_prebird one which you gotta change the game files to access it, if you talk to someone in the bush they say something like "hey can you do something about your friend? the one behind you with the creepy smile", and when you interact with it again it says "huh? where did your friend go?"
THE UNDERWHERE SONG 6:58
Let's goooo new uploaddd
yeaaaa
@@CiblesGD I've been thinking of starting to make theories aswell, you've inspired me sir
So, Is Toby gonna play with us all the time with all of the theories? Amazing.
obviously. the mirror says "it's me, chara"
i forgot which route
A scary fan theory that doesn't have scary music for the whole video?
*I thought I'd never see the day :`)*
The dialogue that glitches in the true lab could easily be Gasther, I don't know, I trully believe Chara is the narrator, but nobody said there couldn't be another one in some scenes, right?
2:38
The bag is considered half full if one specific dog is still alive, if you kill it it's half empty. So if you do a neutral run but don't kill it(I'm pretty sure it's doggo but it may be greater dog) it'll still say half full
7:05
Ez moment, time for debunking.
however, Chara may just be shocked and when then, they just reacts at ring and just say that.
debunking "debunk Chara theory" finished.
Another theory that, if true, helps to prove this theory is that your soul may be the same soul that represented the fusion of Chara and Asriel. A neat symbolic proof for that is in the endings of the game- when you do the ending where you try to be merciful, like Asriel was to the humans above ground, you FIGHT him in the end. When you do the ending where you cause chaos and harm, like Chara attempted to do when they both went above ground, then Chara will be the last thing you encounter. In the neutral ending, you encounter neither. Sure, flowey is technically Asriel, but only in the sense that he has Asriel's essence in him, which is implied to be different from souls at a couple points of UT. This means that in one ending, you fight the soulless monster, Flowey, and in any other you encounter the being whose side of your soul shines brightest. This would also serve to say that Chara is still awake inside of your soul. As for why ASRIEL isn't also awoken by this, my best guess is that maybe he IS awoken, but Asriel and Chara sort of... "co-narrate" the game, similar to how fusions in Steven Universe and Dragon Ball only share one personality, though this is unlikely as we know Chara and Asriel were able to communicate separately, so who knows.
2:44 can we agree that
When you poured a water to a glass it's half full
When you drink a glass of water it's half empty
Is chara the narator of undertale? Yes
video ends
More proof: when genocide run ends we could see narrator say his bed my bed my drawing and knows where asgore keeps the keys it proves they have lived there with someone else.
Notice when we kill flowey in genocide and asgore the fallen child appears.
It proves the determination theory of alphys that when there is more determination the person becomes soulless and the fallen child gets apart with frisk and gains its own soul that's why it all felt like the world of flowey, so dark.
And the fallen child says "thanks you with your power we eradicated the enemy" it proves the narrator goes with the player's thinking just like choosing pacifist, neutral, genocide.
When flowey says that "remember when we used to play here" it suggest he could sense the fallen child.
Oh, I guess I'm gonna watch this Undertale video and feel some nostalg- wait... POSTED 20 HOURS AGO?!?!?!
I thought serious mode was for Undyne the Undying and Sans too?
to me the chara is like both themselves and the narrator if that makes sense, cause theyll say jokes but also info and calls like you mentioned. and i think the narrator in deltarune is just kris, but then again theres weird narration in snowgrave so idk, but also undertale and deltarune are unrelated.
I'm surprised this community/game is still alive
The problem with this theory is that literally every piece of evidence can be explained by the narrator being Toby fox “the narrator doesn’t appear until the flowey fight oh Toby fox chose that, chara switches from talking in red text to white text ,Toby fox was just pretending to be chara, the list goes on
Chara practically did not have enough Determination, until Toriel appeared (which happens to be their adoptive mother).
Toriel switches from red to white text. She uses red text when explaining about Asgore
3:50 sans also has serious mode
Something a little unrelated to this, after killing Toriel in a genocide run, if you go back into your new room, (The room where you get pie) and go to sleep, you hear a voice telling you to wake up, and that you are the future of Humans and Monsters. It sounds like Asgore. Then once you wake up it plays a slow down version of the game over song. I might be wrong though.
nice long video! +support
I’d say it’s almost 100% that chara is the narrator in undertale, it just makes the most sense and there’s too much evidence for it. For Deltarune, no clue. Because of the fact that we haven’t seen any chara evidence in it, (and kris seems to be that universes chara stand in) it’s a solid maybe? Possibly? Can’t prove it nor can you disprove it
Serious Mode is also activated when we're fighting against Undying and Sans, so it's definitely just about setting the tone of the fight.
It's active during the entirety of genocide from "but no body came" onwards.
Which is evidence of the narrator being impacted by the situation going on
It could be that in the true lab chara is freak out, hence why they seem to glitchout.
Good analysis! Personally, I have, and always have believed that Chara is the narrator of Undertale. In Deltarune it's just Toby's humor, no lore attached. But in Undertale, the story lines up perfectly, and it just makes sense. As for the true lab, remember, Chara is only alive because of determination, so, in a place where determination gets corrupted and goes to die, it'd make sense why she would also get broken and corrupted.
great use of super paper mario music!
The narration in Deltarune is almost the same as Undertale, even though Chara doesn't exist in that timeline, where Kris stands for both Frisk and Chara
The narrator in Deltarune can't be Kris either, the narration refers to Kris as "you"
Referring to Asriel as "Your brother" as in "Kris' brother"
"the narration refers to Kris as "you"" actually not quite, because if you've played Chapter 2, there's narration that mentions Kris as Kris, which would make the "You"s refer to us the players
@@TheEmeraldCreeper Then why does the narration refers to Asriel as "Your brother"?
@●Lengendary Name● That makes no sense...
It's weird because the narration does use Kris. Most notable example is in Snowgrave in the fight against spamton where we get "Kris called for Susie" and "Kris called for Ralsei" (something along those lines) vs " *You* whispered Noelle's name" making a clear distinction between you (the player) and Kris. There's also the weird dialogue if you check the mirror in chapter two "it's what they call you" when in chapter one I think it just said "its you". Maybe all of this inconsistencies will be important later?
What I've noticed is that when the narrator speaks they speak in brackets, whilst in othe cases they don't speak in brackets but rather just with a * like how chara does, the narrator and chara share narration question mark???
(Apart from the true lab with the amalgamates)
Also when it comes to flowey their name isn't there however in genocide chara walks towards flowey with a smile which means they are there so toby probably forgot to add charas name whenever flowey pops up or maybe it's to signify something else.
Here to commemorate that The Deeterminators got chased off the platforms. They were the first big compiler of this theory. I miss them.
Chara:*in the pacifist*...so I guess...you are just you frisk
I was just expecting someone who is stuck with yesterdays news because we all knew that chara the nararator but he got more than enough valid reasons even going on to expose reasons against
We finally have an answer to "Who was phone?"
I don't think soul theory works on Undertale. But i like this theory!
6:24 in one of the search results it says "Randi was here", is that one of the actual results or an edit
Serious mode happens in undyne the undying and sans too
“Do you have the stupid”
-Michelle 2021
I'm happy that i'm not the only who thought that
chara in genocide is like "i know you're speedrunning this"
8:01 NO. NO. NOT THE SPEEDRUNNER.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
the eboy
Chara speaks over everything like if you eat a L.hero but the thing is chara says that (insert word here because chara and frisk dont have genders) own personality changes depending on level but chara also says that the more you level up the more chara takes over frisk so if your in genocide with that mirror chara has taken over so much that it just says its chara but in a regular route or pascifist it say its frisk
it took me until I finally beat Undertale to realize that a Memoryhead is a skull
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in terms of kris in deltarune, i think the narrator is actually KRIS'S voice, not chara's, as there are a lot of themes of kris not being in control ect ect-
It's been prominent for a long time yea
I thought the narrator was Frisk this whole time (because of the humor)
What is the music that starts playing at 0:47
3:40
what about sans or undyne the undying?
I think it could possibly be Chara or just Toby
All of the stuff with Chara and Frisk is just really interesting to me. We know that there's three people inside of Frisk's body. Frisk themself, Chara, and the player.
Of course, since we're the player we know what role we play, we make all the decisions on what Frisk does. However, when you get into Chara things get weird.
As you talked about, Chara is probably the narrator. However, from Flowey's speech to try and convince you not to reset after a true pacifist run, it seems like Flowey thinks that the player and Chara are the same entity. Chara also clarifies at the end of genocide that you are two different people, which would seem a little weird if no one thought that you were the same.
Frisk gets even more confusing, since we really don't know what they do. We know at the end of true pacifist Frisk gains the ability to speak without us telling them what to do. And by the way that Chara says, "still just you Frisk" it looks like Chara thinks the player and Frisk are the same. In fact, the whole 'you/I' thing is really confusing in general.
My best guess is that Frisk gives you your options. I don't really have any evidence for it, but it just makes sense to me.
Wow, this comment is a lot longer than I thought it would be.
cool,now we just need to see if chara is evil or good?what do you think?
Excuse me, but the DBZ narrator has an _awesome_ personality! ;D
Yeah cause it's kyle hebret
the narrator is the phone guy from fnaf 1 and 2